Eran is 4 km from my home. It's very difficult to reach there as the connectivity is very poor. Even though its so near, people usually don't visit there except during Eran mahotsav when few hundred people particularly school students go there.
Book recommendations for reading on Huns:- 1. The Alkhan: A Hunnic People in South Asia by Hans Bakker 2. Hunnic Peoples in Central and South Asia: Sources for their Origin and History by Daniel Balogh 3. The Hepthaltites: Archaeological and Historical Analysis by Aydogdy Kurbanov 4. A Study on the Kidarites by Xiang Wan 5. The Huns by Hyun Jin Kim
Great video 🙌, brother your channel is highly under-rated you deserve more subscribers. And please make a detailed video on western kshatrapas and coinage of ancient india
@jayVardhanSingh Please point out to the point that gurjar along with some rajput families come from white huns only We have hoon gotra among us and many other gotras from hoonas Plus naming of gujrat
Good evening sir I want to be History professor and now I'm doing my bachelor's from AU And i need some guidance how should i start which books should i read...? And your videos help me a lot 💖 Thank you sir ...for such knowledgable videos
Is alchon a new classification? Growing up i think i had read toramanna and mihirikula were hepthalites or white huns. Were they reclassified as alchon huns recently or maybe i remember wrong and they were always called alchon huns.
No, earlier it was believed that the Alchons were a branch of the Hepthalites. It was also believed that the Kidarites who were there earlier were different from the Alchons who later replaced the Kidarites. But now through discovery of new coins, it seems that the Alchons and Kidarites were not different Hunnic groups. They belonged to the same group. Some of the early coins of the Alchons belong to the period before the establishment of the Hepthalite power in Bactria. This suggest that Hepthalites and Alchons didn't belong to the same group.
@@JayVardhanSingh merely on the basis of coins how is it possible to differentiate between groups of huns? If as you say kidarite huns were considered different from alchon huns & are now considered as part of the same grouping why was the differentiation done earlier & rescinded now? Did the coinage issued by both these groups show the same motifs & tamghas? If yes why were they differentiated earlier? And what was the basis for considering them as part of the same group now? Besides if they're part of the same grouping has the term kidarite been dropped in favor of Alchon in all historiography? I realize a detailed discussion on this is not possible given the limitations of the medium. A few short pointers would be enough.
Because some of the early Alchon coins are similar to Kidarite coins and are dated to the period before the emergence of the Hepthalite Huns, this also means that the Alchons were there before the Hephthalites emerged North of the Hindu Kush. So if the Alchons preceded the Hephthalites, then they certainly weren't part of the Hephthalites. Although there was certainly contact between the Hephthalites and the Alchons (as I have mentioned in the video). The use of Alchon is because this is what they called themselves. Some scholars argue that the Kidarites and the Alchons were present in the South of the Hindu Kush before the emergence of the Hephthalites. The speculation is that in this period, these Alchons shared power with the Kidarites. But gradually, the Alchons were able to replace the Kidarite. The Hephthalites may have been responsible for this. But we should also remember that the Kidarite and the Alchons aren't different Hunnic group. One theory is they were from different ruling families. Do watch the previous video where I talked about the Kidarite and the Alchons. About the use of Coins as source. The Huns didn't produce any textual source of their own. We only have their coinage and non-Hunnic sources. Non-Hunnic sources don't provide us much detail in questions like these. But about the coinage of Kidarite and Alchons. Do read these articles. 1. TWO CURIOUS ‘KIDARITE’ COIN TYPES FROM 5TH CENTURY KASHMIR By Joe Cribb and Karan Singh 2. The Kidarites, The Numismatic evidence by Joe Cribb
Were the kidarites, alchons and hepthalite huns an indo european/indo iranian people or were they turkic/proto-turkic? One theory suggests the huns that invaded europe/roman empire were the descendants of the xiongnu who were turkic. Are the huns who invaded india turkic too?
The Huns who invaded Europe were one branch. There was also another branch that expanded in Central Asia and India. About the Xiongnu, I do think both groups were descendants of the Xiongnu. I've covered this in my video. Do check it. ruclips.net/video/Qi6uSTby7o8/видео.html
That depends on what was the origin of the Xiongnu. Because there's some strong evidence to suggest that the Huns were descendants of Xiongnu. But when it comes to identity of the Xiongnu we aren't sure. There're some who claim that there language was proto-siderian.
0:56 How come there’re prominent Tamizh alphabets used in the inscription? Goosebumps as we don’t know how deep the linguistic connection was. Though the language maybe anything, the script has Tamizh alphabets.
*Do you think that Rajput of MP and Rajasthan has significant hunic components* ?? If we look at narottam mishra , home minister of MP , his physical features are like that of Huns ( I.e elongated nose , protruted eyes , larger skull size , fair skinned) Is Churaman an apabhramsa of torman...?? Abhijit chavda himself said once that he has some hunic component due to his ancestral background belonging to vyagrahamukha...Who was a hunic king...And then we had lieutenant general Prem Nath Hoon...
*Is chhatrapati an apabhransh of satrap pati* ?? Because we all know maharashtra and gujarat coasts were conquered by saka satrapas..Or eastern scythians ....During the times of gautami putra satakarni's time or probably before that..
The Huns were a very interesting group. Eurasian nomads to being the rulers of some of the greatest civilizations of the world ! Are the Turks and Mongols also Hunnic?
@@Narimann what you've written is true about the baugs dickraa, not real life or history of normal people as understood by them as opposed to bawas version of it.
@@vanshsharma1656 if the huns were indeed descendants of the xiongnu, then their origin would be most probably predominantly east asian much like the earlier Turks were before mixing. However, due to ages of conquest and interactions they would probably have had a heavy amount of Caucasoid mixing and could very well be predominantly Caucasoid by their later stages.
This explains why North and North-Western India have mixed genes from Eurasia tribes, obviously the huns who came would have mingled with the locals. Now we have Sakas and Parthians who are outside tribes
Since india is one now along with history of north simultaneously what was happening in south India ie Karnataka Andhra and Tamil Nadu should also be depicted so as to give a unifying picture
@@vanshsharma1656 yes but chances of having it true is extremely high cuz we have hoon gotra among us and many gotra who dsnt marry with hoon Cuz they consider them as same
@@pranjayCh akele gotra se kuch nhi hota russian researchers aaye thei jammu mein ek ghoda gali naam ki jagah hai vahan huns ke patharon ke sculptures hai uske upar research ki thii or vo ye bhi bolke gye hai ki vahan ke local logon ke facial features same huns jaise hai abhi tak or vaise bhi mihirkul sialkot ka raja thaa sialkot jammu ke paas hi hai
FYI..your map is incorrect. There is no evidence of Alchons ruling Punjab region. They ruled the border of Punjab, Taxila which was originally part of Gupta empire. Punjabi Khatri War Lords ruled the areas south of Taxila. Gupta was a weak ruler just like Ambhi.
Before writing comments like these please first go through the books that I've mentioned in the description. There you will find plenty of evidence of Alchon Huns presence in Punjab.
Parmrara Rajput rulers vakpati munja and sindhuraja had defeated leftover scattered small huns holdouts around indore. This fact is enough to prove that Rajputs or rajaputras were not descdant from huns. CV VADIYA had debunk these Colonial claims long back ago.
But they assimilated in rajputs and even other castes rajputs in upper part of jammu are there descendants while rajputs in upper Himachal have more tibetan influence
@@booksanimeenthusiast look, i am not forcing you to believe. You are interested, just search them yourself bruh. I read it from research papers which are behind a paywall...how can i share that? Just don't read the ncert.
Eran is 4 km from my home. It's very difficult to reach there as the connectivity is very poor. Even though its so near, people usually don't visit there except during Eran mahotsav when few hundred people particularly school students go there.
Book recommendations for reading on Huns:-
1. The Alkhan: A Hunnic People in South Asia by Hans Bakker
2. Hunnic Peoples in Central and South Asia: Sources for their Origin and History by Daniel Balogh
3. The Hepthaltites: Archaeological and Historical Analysis by Aydogdy Kurbanov
4. A Study on the Kidarites by Xiang Wan
5. The Huns by Hyun Jin Kim
Skandagupta defeated which huns
White or red and how many times
This history is so captivating👏👏 thank you for illuminating this aspect of history so beautifully 😌😭👏
Only quality channel for ancient Indian history 😇
Great presentation on Indian history. Thank you .
Great video 🙌, brother your channel is highly under-rated you deserve more subscribers. And please make a detailed video on western kshatrapas and coinage of ancient india
Thank you!
I have made two videos on the Western Kshatraps. Do check those.
@jayVardhanSingh
Please point out to the point that gurjar along with some rajput families come from white huns only
We have hoon gotra among us and many other gotras from hoonas
Plus naming of gujrat
Can u recommend good books to read about guptas, their administration, important cities of this period?
glad i found your channel all thanks to vaad
Thanks
Good evening sir
I want to be History professor and now I'm doing my bachelor's from AU
And i need some guidance how should i start which books should i read...?
And your videos help me a lot 💖
Thank you sir ...for such knowledgable videos
Why didn't you show any ruler in the area of Rajasthan or thar desert
Is alchon a new classification?
Growing up i think i had read toramanna and mihirikula were hepthalites or white huns. Were they reclassified as alchon huns recently or maybe i remember wrong and they were always called alchon huns.
No, earlier it was believed that the Alchons were a branch of the Hepthalites. It was also believed that the Kidarites who were there earlier were different from the Alchons who later replaced the Kidarites.
But now through discovery of new coins, it seems that the Alchons and Kidarites were not different Hunnic groups. They belonged to the same group. Some of the early coins of the Alchons belong to the period before the establishment of the Hepthalite power in Bactria. This suggest that Hepthalites and Alchons didn't belong to the same group.
@@JayVardhanSingh thank you
@@JayVardhanSingh merely on the basis of coins how is it possible to differentiate between groups of huns?
If as you say kidarite huns were considered different from alchon huns & are now considered as part of the same grouping why was the differentiation done earlier & rescinded now?
Did the coinage issued by both these groups show the same motifs & tamghas? If yes why were they differentiated earlier? And what was the basis for considering them as part of the same group now? Besides if they're part of the same grouping has the term kidarite been dropped in favor of Alchon in all historiography?
I realize a detailed discussion on this is not possible given the limitations of the medium. A few short pointers would be enough.
Because some of the early Alchon coins are similar to Kidarite coins and are dated to the period before the emergence of the Hepthalite Huns, this also means that the Alchons were there before the Hephthalites emerged North of the Hindu Kush. So if the Alchons preceded the Hephthalites, then they certainly weren't part of the Hephthalites. Although there was certainly contact between the Hephthalites and the Alchons (as I have mentioned in the video).
The use of Alchon is because this is what they called themselves. Some scholars argue that the Kidarites and the Alchons were present in the South of the Hindu Kush before the emergence of the Hephthalites. The speculation is that in this period, these Alchons shared power with the Kidarites. But gradually, the Alchons were able to replace the Kidarite. The Hephthalites may have been responsible for this. But we should also remember that the Kidarite and the Alchons aren't different Hunnic group. One theory is they were from different ruling families. Do watch the previous video where I talked about the Kidarite and the Alchons.
About the use of Coins as source. The Huns didn't produce any textual source of their own. We only have their coinage and non-Hunnic sources. Non-Hunnic sources don't provide us much detail in questions like these.
But about the coinage of Kidarite and Alchons. Do read these articles.
1. TWO CURIOUS ‘KIDARITE’ COIN TYPES FROM 5TH CENTURY KASHMIR By Joe Cribb and Karan Singh
2. The Kidarites, The Numismatic evidence by Joe Cribb
@@JayVardhanSingh thanks for the detailed answer & reference material. Much appreciated.
Were the kidarites, alchons and hepthalite huns an indo european/indo iranian people or were they turkic/proto-turkic?
One theory suggests the huns that invaded europe/roman empire were the descendants of the xiongnu who were turkic. Are the huns who invaded india turkic too?
The Huns who invaded Europe were one branch. There was also another branch that expanded in Central Asia and India. About the Xiongnu, I do think both groups were descendants of the Xiongnu. I've covered this in my video. Do check it.
ruclips.net/video/Qi6uSTby7o8/видео.html
@@JayVardhanSingh were the huns turkic/mongol or indo/iranian or a mixture?
That depends on what was the origin of the Xiongnu. Because there's some strong evidence to suggest that the Huns were descendants of Xiongnu. But when it comes to identity of the Xiongnu we aren't sure. There're some who claim that there language was proto-siderian.
Great info
0:56 How come there’re prominent Tamizh alphabets used in the inscription? Goosebumps as we don’t know how deep the linguistic connection was. Though the language maybe anything, the script has Tamizh alphabets.
How dare you identify it as tamizh, its sanskrit and north indic script. Tamils have no relations with Sanskrit or north indian brahmins.
V . informative Video
Will you talk about Yashodharman and Baladitya defeating the Hunas in some future video ????
Yes, in the upcoming videos.
I knew that Skandaupta was the pne destroyed the Hunas and repelled the Hunnic invasion...though i know of Mihirakula the barbarian
Which huna king faced skandagupt?
We don't know.
*Do you think that Rajput of MP and Rajasthan has significant hunic components* ??
If we look at narottam mishra , home minister of MP , his physical features are like that of Huns ( I.e elongated nose , protruted eyes , larger skull size , fair skinned)
Is Churaman an apabhramsa of torman...??
Abhijit chavda himself said once that he has some hunic component due to his ancestral background belonging to vyagrahamukha...Who was a hunic king...And then we had lieutenant general Prem Nath Hoon...
Narottam Mishra is a Brahmin not a Rajput
technicy gurjji and his friend are kushan
Huns had long and pointed nose triangular in shape which common in people of upper parts of jammu
Narendra singh tomar look central asian
Please make videos on Tamizh history too ...🙏🙏🙏
Please do why is there a negative perception towards indians worldwide ie being accused of physically weak when our phelwans are stronger
Maybe because we don't pay much attention to physical culture, with pehelwans being statistical anomalies?
@@RAJAT6555 could be
@@RAJAT6555 but is the stuff prople say true about having bad genes
I doubt it has anything to do with our genes but it might do with availability of resources.
@@ajithsidhu7183 Don't worry about that; those are pseudoscientific claims.
*Is chhatrapati an apabhransh of satrap pati* ??
Because we all know maharashtra and gujarat coasts were conquered by saka satrapas..Or eastern scythians ....During the times of gautami putra satakarni's time or probably before that..
Quite Logical.
no Chhatrapati is a sanskrit word. Chhatra / umbrella is one of the symbol of Royalty. Chhatrapati means possessor of a Chhatra.
Yes marathas have scythian genes
Brilliant.
The Huns were a very interesting group. Eurasian nomads to being the rulers of some of the greatest civilizations of the world !
Are the Turks and Mongols also Hunnic?
What do d historians of Pakistan,Afghanistan,& Chinese say about Huns?
Huns are pronounced as Hans हंस,is this also related to the most revered bird Hans in Sanskrit literature.
It's written & pronounced as हुण in Skt & all Pkt based bhashas & not hans as you've understood it.
Shekhs are pronounced as Saka which later become "Shakes+pear", who knows
@@Narimann what you've written is true about the baugs dickraa, not real life or history of normal people as understood by them as opposed to bawas version of it.
Nice
Were the Huns an East Asian people like Chinese, Japanese and Koreans?
They were diverse but most of them were caucasoid
@@vanshsharma1656 if the huns were indeed descendants of the xiongnu, then their origin would be most probably predominantly east asian much like the earlier Turks were before mixing. However, due to ages of conquest and interactions they would probably have had a heavy amount of Caucasoid mixing and could very well be predominantly Caucasoid by their later stages.
This explains why North and North-Western India have mixed genes from Eurasia tribes, obviously the huns who came would have mingled with the locals. Now we have Sakas and Parthians who are outside tribes
Since india is one now along with history of north simultaneously what was happening in south India ie Karnataka Andhra and Tamil Nadu should also be depicted so as to give a unifying picture
Yes, I will do videos on the history of Southern India also.
Is Huns are Gurjars pls answer this Sir
no they aren't Gurjars
@@JayVardhanSinghget your facts correct bro
@@pranjayChhuns are gujjar is just a theory not fact there are many theories about there origin
@@vanshsharma1656 yes but chances of having it true is extremely high cuz we have hoon gotra among us and many gotra who dsnt marry with hoon
Cuz they consider them as same
@@pranjayCh akele gotra se kuch nhi hota russian researchers aaye thei jammu mein ek ghoda gali naam ki jagah hai vahan huns ke patharon ke sculptures hai uske upar research ki thii or vo ye bhi bolke gye hai ki vahan ke local logon ke facial features same huns jaise hai abhi tak or vaise bhi mihirkul sialkot ka raja thaa sialkot jammu ke paas hi hai
Were Huns devotees of Sri Hari
Nope the the royal dynasty after tomrana was mostly shaiva
FYI..your map is incorrect. There is no evidence of Alchons ruling Punjab region. They ruled the border of Punjab, Taxila which was originally part of Gupta empire. Punjabi Khatri War Lords ruled the areas south of Taxila. Gupta was a weak ruler just like Ambhi.
Before writing comments like these please first go through the books that I've mentioned in the description. There you will find plenty of evidence of Alchon Huns presence in Punjab.
Parmrara Rajput rulers vakpati munja and sindhuraja had defeated leftover scattered small huns holdouts around indore. This fact is enough to prove that Rajputs or rajaputras were not descdant from huns. CV VADIYA had debunk these Colonial claims long back ago.
But they assimilated in rajputs and even other castes rajputs in upper part of jammu are there descendants while rajputs in upper Himachal have more tibetan influence
Are rajputs, Biharis are from Huns?
All Indians are Arya, even if they have hunnic blood it will be 1-2%...pplus huns were also descendants of a rig vedic clan
@@charvaka5705 Please quote acadmic source
@@z2zugzwang search them urself...i am not paid for "quoting sources" for you.
@@charvaka5705 why keep replying same thing if you can't provide sources ?
@@booksanimeenthusiast look, i am not forcing you to believe. You are interested, just search them yourself bruh. I read it from research papers which are behind a paywall...how can i share that? Just don't read the ncert.
The great hungujjar, gujjar partihar descendants white huns,
Stop bullshitting
No they are not
2nd comment
So what ??