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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @andycommonsincanada
    @andycommonsincanada Год назад +1

    You guys are Angels.
    I have to be honest I would have driven the bloody thing back to the factory, put a massive sign on the rig right by the front gate saying THIS RV IS A LEMMON, GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK PLEASE.

  • @mitchellgallinger5096
    @mitchellgallinger5096 Год назад +7

    Man you guys have a lot more patience than I could ever have!

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад +1

      Well, we have had our moments of not feeling very positive. We DID have to decide to pick ourselves up and keep moving forward. That’s kinda where we are now 🙂👍🏼

  • @shelleywalker6225
    @shelleywalker6225 2 года назад +11

    It's amazing how patient y'all have been. I would have sought the advice of an attorney by now. The company needs to make this right for you by compensating you for the cost of the RV as well as the money you have spent trying to resolve the poor workmanship. I hope things begin to look up and you are able to enjoy your life on the road. Safe travels.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад +2

      I have to admit that patience is wearing thin...something we haven't done yet is calculate our expenses associated with all of our service repairs. Thank you for all of your advice! 🙂👍

  • @Millard-vo3ds
    @Millard-vo3ds Год назад +5

    Hey guys, I sold RV’s before retiring and handled all the tough, mad customers. I can tell you one thing for sure, you will not be taken seriously by a dealer or manufacturer if you don’t have an attorney. Period. You are having multiple and repeat issues which means you have a poorly put together rig and potentially a dangerous rig. GET AN ATTORNEY. I dealt with several people who had attorneys and their outcomes were always better than those without. You owe it to yourselves.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much for your comment and advice! We are definitely exploring all of our options! We’ve for sure has some scary incidents with this rig. 😕

  • @HSTWXMAN
    @HSTWXMAN 2 года назад +4

    Completely agree with you. VL owes you an explaination and I hope they take care of you for life.

  • @gsolo328
    @gsolo328 Год назад +2

    It is no wonder they are discontinuing this brand. I've heard nothing but complaints about this brand and so many have the exact same issues. It breaks my heart to see you having to deal with this and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing! Tiffin should buy this back and reimburse you for the time you spent and the cost of hotels. They need to.pull every rig from the dealers or give a warning to buyers.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад

      Thank you so much for your comment. We know we aren’t the only VanLeigh owners who are having incredible amounts of issues. It’s so unfortunate 😕

  • @howardbloom9836
    @howardbloom9836 2 года назад +6

    Holy Moly! More stuff?! There must be another word besides “lemon” because you can’t even make lemonade with that rig. I’m also pretty sure that both of you could ace the test to become rv inspectors. What is the secret to your optimism? You are both such lovely humans

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад

      Yup..more "stuff" ! 😎Optimism? I think we are so determined to travel and there is so much we want to do...we just keep focused on that and getting there! I don't know for sure! 🙂 So glad you continue to stick with us on our journey! Hopefully we will get to cross paths again one of these days!

  • @Modfrkt_75
    @Modfrkt_75 2 года назад +5

    I’ve been following your journey and noticed the last chapter of your video is titled acceptance. The condition of your very expensive rv is NOT acceptable. I’m so sorry your dealing with all this crap, I’m certain we wouldn’t be so patient. Tiffin needs to step up, you should be reimbursed for your hotel expenses at the very least. The RV manufacturers are making millions of dollars to turn out total crap and I agree that you have a lemon. I really hope this gets worked out for you asap. Your positive attitudes are commendable.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад +3

      Our acceptance came from the fact that we finally realized that our rig cannot be fixed. We agree with you on all accounts. Thank you so much for your comment.

    • @PandaLAG
      @PandaLAG 4 дня назад

      ​Ugh, I'm so sorry. This is not a rare story, but it's still so distressing for you two & hate that you're going through it. ​@@MidlifeDetour

  • @georgek719
    @georgek719 Год назад +1

    In lieu of a hotel stay, Tiffin management should invite you into their home for the length of your stay during repairs.
    The uptick here will be twofold: one, the repairs will be done expeditiously, and two, it would be done right the 1st time. Or heads would roll in the Tiffin shop.

  • @healeybob1
    @healeybob1 Год назад +2

    I had a Tiffin. I sold it and bought a 2004 Country Coach. Never looked back.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад

      Good for you! 😊👍 We hope your Country Coach has been an awesome rig for you!!

  • @matthewwiemken7293
    @matthewwiemken7293 Год назад +1

    Great videos:) You showcase what can go wrong and why simple is better. Also, your videos show what never to buy as this stuff is all junk that service centers endlessly chase issues. Less fun just getting out when things always go wrong.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад

      Thank you! We DO now believe that simple is a really nice qualification to purchasing!

  • @martysmith-BonneyLake
    @martysmith-BonneyLake Год назад +1

    Wow
    New to your channel.
    You guys are troopers and I want to roll with you guys. You’ve seen it all and had every problem.
    I agree with many of the comments and hope you get resolution. Only at Episode 33 and I think I hit rock bottom with you.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад

      So glad you found our channel! We’d love to have you rollin with us! Thanks for watchin as we keep on keepin on! 👍🏼🙂

  • @rickgriffith1
    @rickgriffith1 2 года назад +2

    We really feel for you guys. I agree that you have a lemon and hope that Tiffin stands by their product and makes things right for you. A lot of eyes are watching this and a lot of potential sales for them are hanging in the balance. Good luck!👍🏼😎

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your support! We Are hopeful and will keep on moving forward! 😎👍🏻

  • @rtoadontheroad
    @rtoadontheroad Год назад +1

    You guys are much more positive than we would be with all of the issues. We know how much those fifth wheels cost to have these many issues!

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад +1

      Definitely is a lot of money and an enormous amount of issues. Very disappointing to say the least. 🙂

  • @northernredneck9997
    @northernredneck9997 2 года назад +9

    It's just horrible that after a luxury company like Tiffen works on your RV you still have to inspect it and find issues.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад +1

      This, my friend...is spot on!! 👍

  • @N2it4Now
    @N2it4Now 2 года назад +1

    What else to say besides commenting for MD!! Rock on!

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад +1

      What else can we say besides…thanks for being there for us! ROCK ON! 😉👍🏻

  • @smplyizzy
    @smplyizzy Год назад +1

    Unfortunately none of those campers trailers are well made. It’s just crazy how much they charge for them. They are more or less disposable.

  • @johnvance5168
    @johnvance5168 Год назад +1

    You guys have way more patience than I would have with this rig. I would have had it parked in the front yard of the owner of the company during a thunderstorm sunk to the axels over the problems you have had.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад

      Well that’s a great way to put it! 😉👍🏼

  • @Stranded-N-Paradise
    @Stranded-N-Paradise 2 года назад +3

    You guys are amazing and we are especially glad you didn’t give up, hopefully you can get all the deficiencies fixed and begin to really enjoy this amazing life style and meet new and wonderful folks along the way, and visit spectacular places in this amazing country.

    • @tg9388
      @tg9388 2 года назад +1

      Great detailed video, huge thanks for sharing 👍🏾 with us, we are getting 2024 Beacon since 22 and maybe 23 have issues

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад +2

      Well, we both agree you guys are equally amazing and so glad we've been able to enjoy some spectacular views with you! Looking forward to more in the future! 😉👍

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад

      TG-Thanks so much for watching! I am sure you will love your Beacon as we feel ours is an outlier. We know people who are very happy with their units. 🙂

    • @tg9388
      @tg9388 2 года назад

      @@MidlifeDetour Thanks, hoping to hear good news about VL offering yall a brand new 2023 unit minus the lemon bugs...

  • @KevinCoop1
    @KevinCoop1 2 года назад +1

    Our Schwintek slide was creaking too. It eventually changed to popping and would not hold the slide tight to the wall closed. Lippert said change the motor. Bad advice. The cause was the nylon wheel on the inside that runs along the rail. The wheel completely broke from its axle.
    Best wishes, Kevin

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад

      Thats our concern. Ours didn't make any noise until they re-welded that area. The consensus from both us and the tech is that the work they did is putting a bind on that area now. Hopefully we won't be dealing with your issue in the future. Thanks so much for your feedback!! 👍

  • @livinganewdream3682
    @livinganewdream3682 Год назад

    Full time RV living is definitely a lifestyle I think is better experienced if you carry around a small tool box and are little inclined to tackle small repairs and issues yourself. Yes, even warranty issues. Particularly for those fit/finish items that can be tackled with a trip to Home Depot and some clever ingenuity. Relying on service centers will drive you out of the lifestyle in hurry. Aside from the frame problem, much of the problems you listed could be taken care with a little youtube searching on repair techniques, few hand tools, a cool drink in hand, and a warm sunny day.

  • @Campingphoebe
    @Campingphoebe 2 года назад +1

    We've been following you since you started. We're so sorry you've had so many problems with this second rig. You've remained so positive, so optimistic, but truly, Van Leigh sold you a lemon. They need to make this right and either give you your money back or get you a brand new rig.
    Hoping things work out for you and that you finally get to experience rv living the way you want to. We love your positivity! Stay strong!

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад

      Well, thank you for sticking with us through it all! I agree with you on all of your statements! We are determined to continue RV life and travel and see the country! Thanks for your encouragement! 😊

  • @everettwilliams956
    @everettwilliams956 Год назад +1

    I was thinking about buying a Van Leigh this next year. I am having second thoughts. We bought a Forest River toy hauler five years ago. Had problems the first two years but not the problems you're having. Just started watching your channel. Keep up the good work and be safe.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад

      Sounds like you hopefully worked out those first bugs! I would stick with your rig if you are able to travel and not have constant added issues like we do 🥴👍🏼

  • @chipangelicamartelle802
    @chipangelicamartelle802 2 года назад +1

    Another awesome video. Hope y’all get back on the road soon. Thanks for sharing

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад

      Thank you! We are keepin on and looking forward to more travel! 👍🏻😎

  • @jimm2442
    @jimm2442 Год назад

    My wife and I just discovered your channel. We like you guys and enjoy your videos.
    We have a couple of questions: We cannot find the video that explains why you sold your Grand Design and decided to purchase the Beacon? Was it simply to downsize?
    We have been RV owners for almost 40 years. We started out with a travel trailer then we had 3 class A Motorhomes. In 2021 we went to a Grand Design 303 RLS fifth wheel towed by a Chevrolet 3500HD Diesel. I am a retired mechanic / welder/ fabricator so most things that need repairing I do myself to avoid the frustration of poor quality labor and long wait times. I get that something like a roof replacement and side wall frame repair are not DIY jobs.
    In all my years of owning RV's I have never seen or heard of any RV having the level of failures that yours does. I know that my opinion is not asked for but you need to be compensated for what is clearly incompetence on the manufacturers part. Those so called technicians are doing horrible work. After seeing many of your videos I would not touch anything built by the Tiffin company. All the years of hearing good things about Allegro and Tiffin products have been irreversibly damaged by your experience I would ever feel good about owning another one of their products. We actually owned a 1985 Allegro Class A and it was a good rig. I understand that there in no Lemon Law applicable to RV's but why not talk to a Lemon Law Attorney? Consider you have a rig that is no longer built and that greatly effects its value on the used market . What do you have to loose at this point? Tiffin needs to buy that rig back and repay you for personal expenses you have waiting for repair and additions you made. That rig you have does not have a bright future based on its past. Your patience is second to none!
    All the best to you and safe travels. Please keep us posted on how all this plays out.

  • @ouRVisionnomadicliving
    @ouRVisionnomadicliving 2 года назад +1

    Wow you two. Yes, VanLeigh needs to figure this out for you guys. I am amazed that they would allow you to leave with a laundry list of items still needing resolved. I hope the fur babies were ok, Jazz has picked up a couple ticks during our travels over the years, she get very ill from two she picked up on our hike in Virgina. I hate those damn bugs. Keep your chins up and safe travels!! 🍻 Sean, Angie and Jazz

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад +1

      The pups are okay! We removed 2 ticks (one from each) and they are okay! We hate them too! I have heard they can get very sick! Our chins are definitely UP! We are keepin on! Thanks for your support! ☺️👍🏻

  • @markhopson8910
    @markhopson8910 2 года назад +3

    You guys should be Sainted…. I cant believe the company hasn't taken action to make things right. Not to keep fixing, but replace and reimburse your expenses. I know Tiffin products are now off our list for future purchases.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад

      We agree with you. We have tried on so many levels...😕 We will keep on keepin on! 👍

  • @ghostpepperrides4805
    @ghostpepperrides4805 11 месяцев назад

    Wow. I’ve watched two of your videos. Best wishes. We are new to the RV game. Yes a home going down the road will always have problems. This summer only 8000 miles. And we have some strange and normal problems. Nothing like your problems. KZ280TH. We are done until March as I’m down with planned surgery. Subscribed.

  • @nextupcamping
    @nextupcamping 2 года назад +1

    I’m sorry for all the trouble y’all are going through. I guess there’s at least a little hope they’re trying to make it right. It’s more than I can say for the dealership that sold us our fifth wheel. They installed the slide topper incorrectly and we’re dealing with damage now because of it. They won’t even answer my calls and e-mails. Keep the faith and safe travels to you guys.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад

      Thank you so much! We hope you get your issues worked out as well! 😕 We WILL keep the faith!

  • @adriannurse1502
    @adriannurse1502 Год назад

    I am so sorry you guys keep having these problems. Have you considered either going straight from Tiffin to a dealership and trading it in on a different brand or talking to a lawyer about invoking the lemon law and getting a full refund?

  • @jessepitre7095
    @jessepitre7095 2 года назад +3

    God bless you for your patience! let me suggest you call up the you tube channel RV WINGMAN by Alan Warren. He has a 4 part recent video on rv lemon laws talking to the best rv lemon lawyer in the country. Watch those videos and it will tell you how to get a free assessment as to whether you have a case and they would represent you! This is totally unacceptable for any rig much less a Tiffin rig! Good luck and safe travels!

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад

      Thank you so much for your advice! We agree this is unacceptable. 👍

  • @amyhartman3527
    @amyhartman3527 Год назад

    I just started following y’all 🥳. I am so sorry that you guys are fighting this crazy battle with your rig 🥹. I wish for you the best & hope y’all are back on the road (issue free) very soon!!!! Travel on my friends 🌈

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад +1

      Well, thank you so much for your kind words and encouragement 🙂We look forward to many great adventures! 👍🏼 thanks for hanging out with us!

  • @rogergraves242
    @rogergraves242 Год назад

    Have Y’A Heard Of The EV Travel Trailer by Lighting? It’s a Part of Telesa & Porsche

  • @timf6916
    @timf6916 2 года назад +2

    WOW

  • @jimeisley8041
    @jimeisley8041 Год назад

    They need to replace your rig with a new one, Built correctly!

  • @rogergraves242
    @rogergraves242 Год назад

    There Also A Pop-Up Travel Trailer Fully Solor 3,000.0 watts looks Like A Coffin.

  • @Rwjsim
    @Rwjsim 2 года назад +1

    I lube the slides with CRC With Teflon at least once a month never had a issue

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад

      I use the same stuff but only on the four mechanical points, as I was told by Lippert not to use it on the glides but this is where I am seeing mixed comments. They ended up lubing my glide with T-9. Do you lubricate your glides?

  • @brianbelliveau5551
    @brianbelliveau5551 Год назад

    Man I would trade that lemon in glad I don’t have one good luck

  • @jimgiordano2576
    @jimgiordano2576 Год назад

    i wonder about the tiffen motorhome quality after watching this .

  • @nomowworries3745
    @nomowworries3745 2 года назад +1

    Oh my goodness… That’s ridiculous to have a list that long and to be at a service center not long after getting this rig. Maybe it’s time to go back to the momentum 🤔

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад +1

      That Momentum…don’t get me started 😉 Best rig and we miss it!

  • @marksmit9688
    @marksmit9688 Год назад

    You have me beat with more problems. I know how you feel. Bummer.

  • @eddieknight8392
    @eddieknight8392 Год назад

    For the price of that truck and trailer .....I would have bought a superC built on an actual class 8 chassis

  • @marybourgeois5235
    @marybourgeois5235 Год назад

    FRUSTRATED. Nawwwww!
    Pi$$$$$$ed.....NO DOUBT!

  • @alandugan9310
    @alandugan9310 Год назад +1

    I don’t think you have “A” lemon, I feel like you have several all wrapped up into one rig.

  • @bobbyb.6644
    @bobbyb.6644 Год назад

    Paint job Beautiful ! Build NOT SO MUCH ? Maybe if you permanently parked it 😏 ?

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад

      Yes, on the outside it sure is beautiful. The inside is too…it’s the INSIDE of the INSIDE that’s not so pretty 🥴

  • @pvp64
    @pvp64 Год назад

    Have they reimbursed you for any hotel costs or anything?

  • @rodreinhart6041
    @rodreinhart6041 Год назад +4

    Too much work being done. They owe you guys a new coach!

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад

      It feels like that some days! 🥴👍🏼

  • @davidjordan6378
    @davidjordan6378 Год назад

    The reason Vanleigh is quitting business. I’m sorry for you guys poor quality home. Hope the next one will be better.

  • @marshaclifton1535
    @marshaclifton1535 2 года назад +6

    get an aliance 5th wheel or winnebago class a. those Tiffen boys are no good making rv's

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад +2

      The fam-Ally is a pretty awesome! We considered it prior to owning our Beacon and we are still connected those groups! 👍

    • @tg9388
      @tg9388 2 года назад

      So hard to compare every single available part both use to build each model

  • @lonniepruitt5487
    @lonniepruitt5487 Год назад

    Take it back to manufacture

  • @caravanstuff2827
    @caravanstuff2827 Год назад +1

    🙏🤞♥️🇺🇸

  • @lonniepruitt5487
    @lonniepruitt5487 Год назад

    Should bought forest river

  • @lonniepruitt5487
    @lonniepruitt5487 Год назад

    Trade that junk in!

  • @ricktaylor6373
    @ricktaylor6373 2 года назад +2

    I’m truly sorry for the frustration it has caused. I think you should have hired someone to come and set it on fire. What a piece of crap. Especially for that brand, I don’t care how much they bent over backwards, your still leaving with a laundry list. Should have GAVE you a new trailer. Your a lot nicer than I am. I give a little slack then it’s time to get mean. Sorry but I hate seeing folks like yourselves go through shenanigans like what your dealing with.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад +1

      Thank you so much for your comment and for the laugh! 🔥👍 You are 100% right on all accounts!

  • @haroldmiller5810
    @haroldmiller5810 Год назад +1

    Dump that lemon now!! I Have owned 7 5th wheels and never have anything you have been through.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад +1

      We are trying to work the issues out. It’s not so easy to just dump it although a lot of days I would like to! 😏

  • @jaylee5019
    @jaylee5019 Год назад

    Im in red bay now. 3 23 2023. Love to chat with ya. Spot number 66

  • @BeerHunter1953
    @BeerHunter1953 Год назад

    Time to sell. Those units look so good. Very disheartening. No better and maybe worse than other down market units

  • @darbowma
    @darbowma 2 года назад +2

    This is awful. I could understand if your rig was an inexpensive entry level rig. But, you bought “quality”. I am sorry for your troubles.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад

      Thank you for your comment. We are pressing on and hoping to get the major things resolved so we can get out and see the country...like we planned 🙂

  • @user-wx3so6pd5g
    @user-wx3so6pd5g 2 года назад +1

    It has nothing to do with the quality product. it's all about how much money can they take you for and hope they never see you again.

  • @marybourgeois5235
    @marybourgeois5235 Год назад

    LEMON LAW!!!! They need to give your money back n GO GET A NEW ONE.....DIFFERENT BRAND!!! THATS B.S.!!!!

  • @LandCruiserMidwest
    @LandCruiserMidwest Год назад

    what would you do if you didnt have issues with the RIG ??? Hope it turns around for ya!!!

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад

      We often dream of what we could be doing! Thank you - we hope things turn around as well.

  • @dawg7915
    @dawg7915 Год назад

    Yes Dry lube those tracks!!!!!! lipert is just plain wrong.... DRY lube only

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад

      Thanks for the input! That had been my approach as well but the folks at the service center lubed them up pretty heavily. Their suggestion was to keep them lubed in the same manner.

  • @jwlindem1
    @jwlindem1 2 года назад +3

    They are all that bad.

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад +1

      I would like to think there are some good ones 😉

  • @michaelmackey754
    @michaelmackey754 Год назад +1

    Very depressing… Spending all that money for something they just throw together😡

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад +1

      We were there for the build and documented that process in another video. We had been to several factories and what we experienced while at the Vanleigh plant during the build of our unit gave us high hopes for our unit. Thanks for hanging out with us!

  • @briancc2100
    @briancc2100 Год назад

    How do you retire with rv life with zero basic knowledge

  • @gorvlivin
    @gorvlivin Год назад

    Another midlife crisis

  • @MC-zc1qm
    @MC-zc1qm Год назад +1

    Wow, the Beacon was at the top of my list. Good thing for me they went out of business....

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад

      It really is so beautiful.. :(

    • @MC-zc1qm
      @MC-zc1qm Год назад

      @@MidlifeDetour They had me. I haven't seen anything that compares for the price range. Can you recommend anything?

    • @MC-zc1qm
      @MC-zc1qm Год назад

      @@MidlifeDetour How are the RiverStone's, do you have any idea?

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  Год назад +1

      We just attended the Tampa show and we totally get what you are saying about not finding anything that looks like the Beacon. Super hard decision. We didn’t see anything that made us excited except the new Brinkley toy hauler. There were several things we liked about it…but they ARE a new company. Definitely the talk of the show though!

  • @keithrowell8895
    @keithrowell8895 2 года назад +1

    I've seen atleast 20 videos on leaks in these 5th wheel trailers. Not all the same brand. On the underground .walls windows. Most of these are only 6 months old

    • @MidlifeDetour
      @MidlifeDetour  2 года назад

      We know there are a lot of issues on multiple, if not all brands...😳

    • @keithrowell8895
      @keithrowell8895 2 года назад +1

      @@MidlifeDetour. Wish you 2 the best. Be safe out there 🙏

  • @gerryyaum
    @gerryyaum Год назад

    Too many toys = too many things to break down. Best to simplify.