Stellaris - Relic Tier List (3.6 Edition)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Relics were recently reworked for 3.5 & 3.6 , so it's time for a Tier List. Also, there's a secret Relic at the end that you may enjoy. Let me know in the comments below which relics have been done bad and need to be put in another category.
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Alright folks, tell me which your favourite Relic is and where it should fit on this list.
Cybrex Warforge for me. It used be a flat minerals for alloys, but the incremental concept they changed it to made it even better to me! Plus when your precursor are the Cybrex, a ringworld in their system is awesome!!
Cybrex most the time, but I play a lot of ring or void origin and that Gaia relic is ridiculous for that
I really like the Omnicodex. The best thing about it is it's a pop printer, and with the pop growth changes being able to print pops is extremely nice (particularly if you get a chance to get some tomb world preference). Pops are power, and printing years worth of pop growth every 10 years is quite good.
I would bump up the Contingency Core and Warlock to D teir. They are too late to mater, but they are objectively better than the brood queen.
Surveyor. Able to be gotten quite early and always useful. Not always the best option later on but still. And it has a chance to activate a second time per use.
My favourite is whichever ones the game gives me. :)
Don't forget that the Last Baol also can be used on a world that is already gaia to grant up to 10 pops a unique gaia habitability that grants an extra 5% output on them. That's in addition to the 10% bonus from the gaia world itself.
Wat
They should buff it by allowing the buff to keep growing 🤣
Say what
Pretty sure each activation also has a "hidden" planetary decision where on one gaia world you can swap 3 pops to the upgraded gaia habitability.
When you activate the Last Baol you can go to any planet you possess that is already a Gai world and activate the "turn 10 pops to Gaia preference" decision. But the trick is you need to do it after you begin the Gaia decision on a non-gaia world. If you do it first it uses up the relic activation. Basically you get two effects for the price of one.
The rubricator can also be used to make a max level art installation!
as far as I remember, now small artifacts are not needed for this
@@АнтонБородин-з8з you need 100 for "perfection" but you don't for "completion"
I just rolled an empire where a ruined mega art installation is in my borders along with kleptomaniac rats. Stoked!
The minor artefact generation can also help with the "Secrets of" projects to get extra out of precursor chains.
I think the crisis relics matter quite a bit if you go for triple crises. There may come a point when you'll need those bonuses to overcome the next one
I partially agree, although just the debris you get from Prethoryn and Unbidden will help you immensely.
Best missiles, strike craft from Prethoryn and best essentially plasma/laser hybrid weapons from Unbidden. ^^
@@PerfectAlibi1 are unbidden weapons any good? Last time I checked they were a bit lackluster, maybe they got a buff in recent patches
@@tite93
They just need a shield breaker, but then they're better than plasma, without costing exotic gasses.
So just couple them with some cannons or if you got lucky, the null void beams.
Thats what Im saying
@@MinecraftConnected
Or you could also just really stack energy weapon damage, so it over comes the shield weakness ^^
The Crisis Relics are amazing when you do all 3 crisis.
Getting the contingency as the first crisis is absolutely superb.
EDIT: I wish I could set the order of the crisis and their strength.
Aggressive Crisis Engine Mod
I think I want to play one run like this and after finishing of the third crisis become the crisis myself and end the galaxy for good
Also, you do NOT want to get the Contingency as the final crisis... If you cannot replace 5000 fleet capacity instantly you are dead :p
@@mithrillis eh, they're the weakest and their forces are spread out
Also ai can handle them the best because ai runs balanced builds and contingency is balanced too, not specialized like the other two
Granted, AI can handle anything in the endgame if you declare a crisis and make them work together
@@letsplaysvonaja1714 for some reason they have significantly higher fleet power when spawning as the second or last of 25x crisis. Also AI seems to be able to deal with at most 5x and maybe 10x if the galaxy the completely united. Above that, the crisis strength is just above what even the most buffed AI combined is able to deal with.
Maw of the toxic entity gives you a planetary decision when you play the knights of the toxic gods origin.
Yeah. I'm surprised he missed that; doesn't _anyone_ on youtube ever kill the toxic god in a game? And that decision gets you more knights, probably the best job in the game by the time you finish the event chain
And the decision is very strong. It provides a lot of jobs and a unique district that produce a lot of science, unity and fleet capacity, and bonus yields based on your decisions made during the toxic gods situation.
@@justinthompson6364 It was mentioned in the actual review of it. This is just a tier list of the artifacts
@@jalleonothing5946 All the more baffling that it isn't being mentioned here then, since that _IS_ a property of the relic. Tiering the maw based on how it works the 1% of the time it's not being used by a KotTG empire while ignoring that much more common use case just doesn't make any sense.
Killing the god also keeps your knight order working at full capacity because you technically never ended the quest to find the specific being that nuked your world
You "only" found a member of its species
Which is better than getting one singular ship you may not even use in battle out of fear of losing it
if you're playing as the knights (which is the only way you'll probably ever get your hands on the maw relic), doesn't it also let you consecrate habitats? Gives you more knight jobs, which are the strongest part of the origin. Still not a great relic, but an important detail to miss
Only one per habitat, but still
Actually your consecrated habitats can produce 500 research with a 12k army.
Don't forget the empire-wide percent increases to alloy production
Something you forgot to mention with The Surveyor is that, with each use, it has a 50% chance to give a second resource deposit 1-3 years after activation, and if that happens there's a 20% chance of getting a 3rd deposit 3-5 years after activation.
The crisis relics do have a bit of use if you pick the "all crisis scenarios" option.
The crisis relics improve if you have all three crises turned on. You can get the relics from the first 2 and use it to help you deal with the third crisis
Really hoping aspec or montu go over how to push psionics without teacher of the shroud. I really like psionic, but being locked out of other flavor origins makes me sad :(
Pro Tip: Put a Maniacal scientist as the Society researcher; it increases the likelihood of drawing rare techs, which include Psionic Theory. If you're a materialist, I believe you're locked out of Psionic Theory unless you do some shenanigans (I think you need your society researcher to have the Psionic trait?). Your odds of drawing the Psionic Theory tech also increase if you're spiritualist (and even more if you're fanatic spiritualist), and if you have psionic pops (such as the Rackets) in your empire.
I had a recent playthrough where I rolled the Zroni precursors, so I got Psionic Theory right away. With my third ascension perk my empire was a fully psionic, materialist, mechanist, megacorp. That was a fun game.
There are a lot of ways of boosting your chance. The biggest boost is an expertise: psionics scientist, but a maniacal scientist helps if you don't have one. Other increases to chance are fanatic spiritualist, having any psionic or latent psionic pops, a shroudwalker teacher and technological ascendancy. Do note that non-spiritualist empires have half the weight and materialist empires (of either degree) REQUIRE either an expertise: psionics scientist or at least one psionic pop.
Using a Maniacal scientist in Society research gives you a change to get Psionics research.
@@A_Spec Maniacal doubles the weight, but don't let materialists roll the tech.
You mentioned that the zeroni are rare, can you make a video explaining how the precursors are determined and why some are more rare than the others? I know it used to be tied to certain spots on the map but idk if that’s still true.
I've only ever gotten Irrassians and Imari
@@CommunistBot Irassians and Cybrex for me. I don't mind the regular access to the Irassian Naval Yards but I think something is broken for me.
@Aspec
the relic of the toxic god relic has some kind of scaling in it i think. i jsut got it today for the very first time (completly vanilla game) and it gives me like 9.100 exotic gas per activation wich in my opinion is CRAAAAAZY honestly
EDIT: i cant say what it scales of but as refrence i jsut looked up some points. its year 2356 , i got 1639 pops and 1974 empire size and 13k tech per month. i also thought if it jsut doubles your current gas-stock cos im roughly at 10k gas in the bank
I think you undersell the Crisis relics quite a bit, since a lot of people play with ALL the crisis.
i have unironically used nlade of the huntress to steam roll wars. that 20% sublight speed is nuts when you have hyperlane travel cooldown to boot. especially with fascinating flagella and the shanty boost. +40% subflight speed is SCARY
There is a reason I designed a machine empire, and did a ring world start; not just because I like to bully the shit out of my neighbors once my economy is going, but also in homage to the greatest Machine empire ever the Cybrex. I both love that machine, and loath it’s rare spawn chance for me. For some screwy reason, I can’t get it nearly as often as the Baoli, which while they’re great, I don’t need Bio pops or new worlds terraformed. I NEED ALLOYS!!! And I have such a wealth of minerals often at the start of the game that this could make or break some starts man. It’s an insanely good item for my build. Also, the war forms are honestly a god send when research is hyper focused on rushing to Megastructures. So I tend to ignore army stuff till later…so building those saves me lots of grief. And did I mention I love Alloys?!
If the Contingency only spawned earlier I would be the greatest machine to ever exist!
Speaking of things I want, how do I get my grubby mechadendrites on that *Beautiful* Crystal? Because I need more energy to go with my yummy alloys yes yes very yummy.
As for my thoughts on our mystery relic.
The Radiance is pretty nice looking. I’d imagine it does something in one of the three categories I think the name might denote:
1. Diplomacy- Radiance is often a descriptor for certain leaders, and is often a means of annotating someone as high status.
2. Radiance as commanding presence: It could be a captivating leadership symbol in another right, and ergo give some form of internal modifier. Whether it’s a planetary, or production bonus depends on how they angle it.
3. Radiance as weapon-Sometimes our genius is blinding. Some form of OP combat modifier that greatly increases your command of the battle space.
Honorable Mention: Something Unity related, what with Unity being such an important modifier.
Honestly the Yuht Cryo-core saved my butt in a (successful) Dark Forest achievement run where I ended up against a galaxy-wide federation and had to make an OBSCENE amount of fleets to counter their giant doomstack. Kept me defending and claiming turf until I could get more energy production online.
Not Going to lie, I had expected The Surveyor to be in S tier category. Not exactly brilliant for the One System challenge, as rare resources don't appear in your home system (at least in my games). However if your playing tall and restricting yourself to one sector, the resource boon can be well worth it, not to mention that after activating The Surveyor a couple of times will begin identifying basic resources such as energy and minerals not being exploited within your territory.
With the name "the Radiance" makes me think of a Psionic Beacon. In Horus Heresy, the Pharos Beacon would serve as rapid communication (and possibly transportation) between the 500 Worlds but its explosion possibly attracted the Tyranids attention. It'd be interesting to have an archaeological site decision that gives you a greater bonus output and maybe hyperspace charging speed or the ability to place two connected wormholes (one on "Pharos", the other on a planet of your choice) but causes the Praethoryn to spawn much earlier
The bigger problem with the Zroni precursor is how easily the damn thing breaks so you can never finish it. I've never gotten this precursor and had it complete properly.
Those (end-of-game) crisis relics can be very useful, if you have a fucked-up galaxy. Where the crisis is over but the holy war is still ongoing and you're fighting both parties by you're self as all the other player joined one of them. I had one game where the crisis was over 20 years passed end-of-game date. Being only a hand full of star systems large at that point. Defeating both parties took me an other 80 years. But the +100% jump drive range + some tech bonus allowed me to jump to anywhere in the galaxy giving me the technical advantage needed to win the game.
Great work! Long live the algorithm
ah yes just when i needed my video showing me what every relic does thank you aspec!
doesn't how bad -5 stability is kinda depend on difficulty settings? :D Like I think main reason why 20% research bonus for active effect isn't that good is because worm is likely end game event so you have already done most of the important research by then
Research never stops being good because of repeatable techs.
Every game, I only ever remember to try for the Galatron about 3 times per game, and I have never got it.
>Head of Zarqulan isn't that great because it appears too late in the game
>Be me, pirate bird people who find it literally in the first two years of the game
>Conquer and enslave everyone with our lunatic spiritualist bros who think we're holy or something
>*insert seagull laugh*
Since I love playing Psionics I really love Head of Zarqlan + the fleet is great and it can ramp pretty quick in power + it gives the RP Awakened Empire bonus so for me it's A tier, and Yuht is just YUHH E or F tier for me
Surveyor is insane. The way the resources stack every 5 years on your planets on a tall playthrough its practically game breakingly powerful.
Since I have a shit PC , i love to go one system while granting me the surveyor at the beginning of the game, it is so satisfying seeing research stations on every single Moon in your home system
I'm so happy I've been constantly getting the war forge I can neglect all alloy production with zero consequences.
I’m gonna run with the crystal idea and say passive boost to hull strength and active spawns a crystalline fleet.
Psionic archive is kinda straight up better than khan's throne for psionically ascended empires. It buffs the shroud in every way, and one of the options for its active is +20% damage modifier. Sure it's only 5 years not 10, but in an emergency just as good.
Now add the damage, fire rate and sublight speed that you get from the shroud (they can also overlap now) and it's not even close.
And you have other choices for active effect. And you get it much earlier.
Getting the zroni is a reason to go psionic on itself (as if it wasn't good already). I'd say psionic archive's an S tier
The one caveat about the contingency core is that you can spawn the contingency possibly earlier than the late game through Ultima Virgil's, so if you can spawn them in earlier before the end game then it's much better.
Hey ASpec,
Would you try the complete overhaul of new acot? You showed other mods in the past before and made or made not recommendations...
Greetings rabbitbear
I would place the Omni Codex in the low A, high B tier.
As it allows you to make your species that much better when genemodding, something that you should do regardless of ascension.
If only to give your biological pops just a slightly better trait, while the other pops are synths.
Khan's Throne is no more than A tier because of the military attraction.
As for the crisis relics, they're all useless unless you're playing with ALL crisis spawns. Then the warlock and prethoryn relics are potentially quite useful though the contingency one is only slightly useable...Each additional crisis spawns in about 12-15 years after the previous, which doesn't give you much time to crank out the additional megas.
Finally we reach a point where Stellaris makes fun without mods. I remember playing years ago with ,,Slower than light" and ,,System Scale" in a 10.000 star galaxy without any other civilization to simulate a realistic expansion of humanity. But now, with all the politics, feudalism, megacorps and all these new origins and relics, it has become a really interesting game even if you play it like a normal person.
"it kills the most important thing on the planet; the pops. Yeah, you kinda want those"
Oh... I think I've been playing the game wrong...
Fanatic Purifiers : "Xeno pops? Ew, Virus bomb those guys lmao"
Rolling the Grunur Precursor with the Life Seeded origin is a godsend
Worth noting, if you get a really early crisis, those crisis relics can absolutely win you the game.
They actually reduced it to 500 energy from selling minor artifacts with a 180 day cooldown
The 2nd and 3rd option for bonuses which you can choose for when you activate Psionic Archive is really strong (stability, happiness, SHIP DAMAGE, etc) as well as the passive ruler level cap increase (large increase) compliments your likely having an immortal ruler due to the shroud cooldown reduction. And you can get it super early consistently.
I'd strongly argue it shouldn't be in C tier compared to the others on that tier.
Head of Zarqlan on D tier is kinda harsh. Although I tend to usually get this at a point it doesn't matter a friend of mine, in one of our games, managed to get it super super early and that an argueably temporary reduction in happiness due to spiritualist ethics attraction doesn't matter if it allows you to conquer/vassalize your neighbors and snowball the game.
The only good thing about me constantly rolling the Yuht for precursors, is I can say "The Yuhts. The what? Oh Youthsss" LOL
I like beeing prospectorium and having the surveyer that is cool
my personal edits: Khan's throne in A tier, worm scales E tier, Miniature Galaxy as B or maybe even A tier, Omnicodex B tier, don't have experience with the Head of Zarqian but i'll just slot it in E tier and the Prethoryn Brood Queen in D tier maybe C tier, the Contingency core immediate S or A tier but that's just my machine biases plus its amazing with Gigastructural engineering, Extradimensional Warlock i would put in A maybe B tier just because of how hard it was for me to actually get it my first time, with The Defragmentor i would be inclined to put it in A tier but i understand it's B tier ranking, i somewhat agree with the Vultaum Reality Perforator's ranking tho i might put it in B tier because of it's backstory, i might put the Crystal of Odryskia in A tier instead but i can see it's vAlUe and finally i have no clue what The Radiance could possibly do but im excited to see what it does. I'm glad to have watched the video all the way through and I'm glad you have read my take this far, thanks!
I think the radiance might be what Gestalts will get from the Zroni Pre-cursor.
As they can't go Psionic?
I still think that the Reality Perforator should grant you a special Colossus Weapon that is better than the others or does some batshit-cool thing
If you want the Zroni Relic to spawn more often just play as fanatic materialists or a robot hivemind. Seems to spawn much more often then...
9:15 isn’t the surveyor basically just being a tier 3 prospectorium?
Technically yes.
My three favorite relics are the Rubicator, The Blade of the Huntress and the Cybrex Warforge. I wish we could use relics simultaneously.
I can't believe Head of Zarqlan is knocked down to D for being situational when the Omnicodex which is only good for Geneticists gets a C, lol. Those Fallen Empire fleets build up to something pretty impressive over time too, especially if you haven't been focusing Military tech.
Blade of the Huntress I wouldn't say is as good since the Hyper relays
Don't think it's fair to knock the "end of game" relics because they come from the crisis's. Crisis have never been the end of game for me (and other friends of mine who play), more like mid game.
I thought I was the only one constantly rolling the Baol. Wish there was an option to roll multiple precursors. Like, I get its OP to roll them all, but just rolling like, 2 or 3 should be balanced, especially if the first roll is a shit-tier precursor.
Seriously, I hate getting the Zroni when I'm going for synthetic or cybernetic ascensions. I'm not asking for guaranteed cybrex, but even just getting the Yuht and Vaultaum after rolling the Zroni would be welcome.
Console still has the Warforge at a static 10k minerals and 5k alloys, but even that is still amazing
I hate to disagree with ASpec on the crisis relics but I hard disagree now that you can run 25x ALL crises. They matter now if you're playing an all crises game.
My biggest problem with relics that are really good for specific builds is that when I'm playing with that build it never spawns in the galaxy
Omnicodex goes to F because it contributes to lategame lag. Purely because of that. Preeettyyyy good if you're a necroid though.
Crisis relics are great if after the crisis you become the crisis
Unfortunately i have baol every time i play machine empire and only then, like yes it absolutely great but not for machines!
Me when looking at the Javorian Pox: "Wow, this is worthless, so worthless in fact that it needs its own tier entirely to itself."
I can guarantee a Baol spawn! It happens... whenever I play Void Dwellers. >.
When I play Stellaris I narrate my game with Aspec's voice in my head
I got the head of zarqlan when i was playing machine intelligence. That immediately nullified the spiritual ethics attraction thing, plus all the holy worlds were in my borders because i was directly next to that specific fallen empire. So i like it quite a lot
Crisis relics are awesome and “the game being over” doesn’t matter, normally I have the crisis within the first 100 years anyway
Obviously, the Radiance will transform you into an energy-based GOD!
Maw of the Toxic God isn’t a very good relic in and of itself but you should definitely seek to have it as Knights of the Toxic God, because that means you haven’t disbanded the Order and the bonuses it gives you are just absolutely insane (at least last time I checked). It’s like having an empire within your empire ! The relic was never meant to be the reward, merely the tiny cherry on top (because I won’t spit on free buffs, as insignificant as they are) !
The Rubicator: with the current state of the game (3.7.4 written 4/4/23) artifacts are 'mined' and so plentiful I trade them away as bribes for resources or favorable opinion 'cuz I continuously hit the max limit of 3000. I would never activate it.
Yes I got it in a recent playthrough and it is basically worthless if you've got at least a few archeology sites
i say the radiance has the maw of the toxic gods effect but with rare crystals and lasers
There needs to be more relics connected to origins honestly
Surveyor with Void Dwellers is SSSSS tier especially for research habitats and rare resources. Miniature galaxy is nice because it is a GUARANTEED spawn in every map, along with a size 26 relic world!
I love the surveyor, regardless of what origin I play. Every now and then it gives you some pretty good strategic resource deposits.
I mean I know you don’t care about the Cybrex Warforms you can build but they’re the only high-damage mass-produced army units you can get that rivals that of psi-corps and imperial armies; only Titans and Grey can out-damage Cybrex Warforms ( I think psi-corps can get to the attack and surpass morale, but have less hit points)
Oh I know, the Warforms are crazy strong.
I play with mods, so once I get the mechanicum tradition (wich is extremly good for rabot empires) and unlock the titans and knoghts, I bassically don't ever need any ither units, even the maginot units can't beat their stats and price.
So... there are 23 relics and I've never got 5 at the same time. Every other achivement is done but not that one. Wtf?
Play wide for more chance.
Hunt leviathans.
Find the mining bot system for the surveyor.
Destroy the crisis.
The post crisis stuff is okay if you play with all the crisis one after the other.
Surveyor is the most S-tier from all S tiers becouce you slowly stacks everything
Idea for the radiance:Crystalline conversion
Gives a planetary decision that spawn a crystalline blocker on one of your planets, that makes all miners there produce 0.1 rare crystals in place of a quarter of their minerals production. The rare crystal income will be buffed by conventional miner bonuses.
24:35 I love how you said the line "Maximum Production of Everything!" It was beautiful.
My nanosuit from Crisis says that too.
I rolled Ba-ool on a tree of life hivemind run... it practically played itself
Tree of life world shaper for me XD
So I barely got to use my special terraforming building unless I had several colonies to terraform at the same time
Stellaris died with 2.0.
Honestly go back and play 1.9 and see for yourselves.
They have deleted more content than they have added.
Feel free to roll back your version to 1.9.
you sound a bit salty. care to explain, I'm someone who lever played that version of the game, si i can only ilagine it's nostalgy bias
Personally I do find pretty good niche uses for 3 of these relics.
Isolated Contingency Core in coordination with a Machine Empire is very fun, because mechanical pop assembly speed boosts mean you can just act like a virus and replicate speedily. Megastructure build speed boosts are also great, and with the update that allows for two of each megastructure, its pretty powerful in my opinion; you can get two mega shipyards and just pump out ships at a ridiculous rate. So I'd probably bump it up to C.
I can see a use for the Javorian Pox Sample's pox bombardment stance if you're playing fanatic purifier or a non-assimilating hive or non rogue servitor/driven assimilator, though I'm unsure as I've never gotten the Pox (I mostly get the First League or the Vultaum, gotten the Zroni, Baol, and Cybrex once, and the Yuht twice).
Omnicodex is useful for Necrophage empires; you get three pops without even having to fight people, plus when you use necrophage purge they just become part of your own population as your own species with your species' perks, so any drawbacks from traits is pretty much negated. It can also be useful for Rogue Servitors, Driven Assimilators or Hives with the assimilation perks, but I don't exactly see much use other than for slaving empires.
Personally though my favourite relic is definitely the Surveyor. Completely justified as to where it is.
Will radiance allow the building of crystaline fleets which has their own special variants on weapon?
Sorry for being optimistic lol
with the crystal, does it count ALL energy income? like can i set up a ton of temporary monthly trades to inflate the income so i get more? and does it count energy income from vassals?
If pox added more lifespan would it be better or still meh
Problem i have with khan throne is that it answers problem you usually do not have anymore by the time you get it, especially PVE. So S might be overdoing it.
Kind of the same for surveyor, but atleast you don't have to bleed your unity output for the effect so A is good.
Is the head of zarqlan really a problem? Spiritualist attraction can be shunned significantly, and the fleets it gives are nothing to scoff at especially if you set up late game early. There is probably Mercenary shenanigan you can do with them to get free FE techs.
Defrag is A tho, so is Vultaum. The fleet bonuses are too good, it's at least equivalent/1 tier under khan throne.
Yuht crio core in certain situations trivializes the ability to reach -100% ship upkeep, which is an absurd boon.
Also as someone pointed out, 3 crisis are a thing now, and Unbidden is an asset to kill the 2 others.
Beside that, good work on the presentation and stuff. very cool.
nononono aspec, you can't put the contingency core in E, It is most very useful both in and outside of multiplayer.
in mutiplayer, get that extra score to win by the sheer usefulness of it. and in the all crisis scenario hell yea it is going to give some most useful boosts from the mega structures you can build.
thousands of hours, i have seen the towel, but not this purple kristall
edit: oh. Thats why
@30:22 I've noticed having a Maniacal researcher also ups the chance for certain rare tech, like psychic for tech empires and I found some rare things in the other two groups as well.
Making more into maniacal is fantastic!
Funfact:
You can stack the Prethoryon fleet indefinitely.
I combined three or four fleets and have 780K while my other normal fleets float around 60K
In my first game after getting Ancient relics story pack I got the war forge the Rubicator the Head of Zarqlan and the Omnicodex.
I feel a little bit overpowered.
Finished first by a large margin in the shortest time.
Was I lucky or does Ancient relics just make Stellaris easy?
I’ve never got more than 1 or 2 per game. Can you get all of them in one playthrough?
No, but you definitely can get more than 5 or more
@@A_Spec cool. Noob question, what’s the point of post game relics?
Step aside Helen of Troy. Because the Cybrex War Forge has literally launched a thousand ships in my last game.
Psionic Archive is under-rated on this list. It also drastically increases the "Positive Outcome" odds in the Shroud, and the chain to get the thing gives you Psionic Theory. Given that you find out what your Precursor Empire is pretty early, you can plan to go Psionic. Lastly, I think you're underselling the other two activation bonuses. +20% weapon damage is a huge bonus against FA's and the crisis (Yes, it's not the Cybrex Warforms, but what is?) And +5 Stability, -10% Edict and +25% Ethics as a combo-benefit is enough to overcome a lot of midgame annoyances. Of the Precursor Relics, I genuinely think it's in the top 3 (Along with the Warforge and Baol) Simply by virtue of flexibility. Easily a B or A relic, depending on your Shroud rolls.
I think you underrestimated the Zroni relic. The shroud cooldown reduction stacks with the cd reduction of the holy covenant federation.
The relic allows you to massively increase the chance of getting a 16k fleet in the early game, and instant vassalize almost the entire galaxy. And it allows you to have up to 4 boons active at the same time. Combined with the active part you can have +50%shield +60%weapon damage, +20% fire rate, and +30%evasion. If I get the Zroni precursor I always change my entire playstyle and do everything to get it asap. Combined with the other new psionic benefits they are by far my strongest runs.
I like to use the Lil Galaxy at the end after I have researched seemingly everything, just +5% tech, year after year. And then BAM, brand new cutting edge tech. Keeps the tech fresh after a few decades of tech rush
Edit: I also love the Head of Zarqlan. I don’t care what ethic I am, I spam those fleets forever. I have had several fleets, maxed out, all of fallen empire ships. Silly but stronk
I've gotten the head of zarqlan only once, when I was playing a hive-mind (one of the genocidals but I don't remember which). I was stuck in a prolonged war with a large neighbour and the extra fleets (plural, we had so many conflicts I got to max flleet power just by summoning them to fight this neighbour) absolutely saved me. The fleet may be negligible on higher difficulties, but I was a noob playing on ensign, so the extra fleet power made a tremendous difference.
The crisis relics aren't that useless. Game I had, had the psionic invasion crisis there (not sure of proper name right now XD) and just before they appeared...WAR IN HEAVEN.
So yea, I defeated the crisis, while the two big awakened empires were duking it out.
disagree on the scales of the wyrm, yes its bad but thats not +20% physics speed on its active. its +20% ALL RESEARCH speed. Thats 4X what the +5% research speed tech does. That is a significant boost depending on when you get it. Yes its not amazing i certainly would not rate it above C tier but I would probs give it D tier over all even with the loss of wonders of the worm and the stability loss. Mind you thats because I rarely have trouble with stability given my more peaceful style of gameplay. (i mostly play tall or a cross between wide and tall.)
I also disagree with the warforge but thats purely because I rarely have trouble with alloys. Honestly in some games i am literally selling off tens of thousands of alloys every month since I already have all my fleet power and the most in the galaxy, i have both my megastructure builds ongoing and can only wait to spend more on them, etc. etc. I just rarely find a use for it late game and early game i am more focused on diplomacy and manuevering everyone the way i wish them to be manuevered. As a result i use minimal alloys. so to me the warforge is just S or even A tier (especially since i MUCH prefer the relic world you get with the rubericon Which I personally consider to be the best wonder.) I like anything that lets me have an ecuminopolis for free.
For the Isolated contingency core it would be useful if you turn on ALL for the end game crisis and got contingency first
Honestly, I'm surprised you put the Omnicodex into the same category as the Pox. The main reason you said you don't like the Pox is that it kills pops. The Omnicodex GIVES you pops. For free. Am I missing something? Shouldn't that be at least a B-tier item?
Kinda annoyed that you judged every relic taking how it is obtained into account, but completely ignored how rare the Galatron is to rank it A tier. Probably closer to C or D tier due to rarity. Same gripe with the placement of the Warlock and the Core. Both should be higher than the Brood Mother simply due to being much better (I'd say D tier is fine). Either that or move the Brood Mother to F tier.
1:33 why do I want xenoses in my government? This is the most important reason why do I have colossus with neutron purifier, I’m not crazy, I’m practical (and lazy cuz I do not want to control all this races, I’ll built some “fun” stations where I would put the cutest xenoses to live in fun and chemical Utopianism or how this thing called)
I don't think that Prethoryn relic should be E. I mean, it can't be directly harmful unlike Prophet's Head or the Worm's Scales, and passive society research bonus is definitely more impactful than the ability to settle Holy worlds. Obviously it's more or less useless by the point in the game at which you get it, but overall I think it's D-tier at worst and C at best
Defragmentor should be A (it's useful for any empire), Perforator should be B (it's useful for any Empire), Baol should be C (Machines don't care for Gaia or organic Pops, plus Gaia is pretty bad world type late game).