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The saddest part about this whole mess is that *nobody* died from the crash itself. Everyone who died, died because the bridge crew waited till the last minute to sound a general emergency. At which point everyone was in a panic and people whp *could* have been helped got left behind.
@@theoneguyoverthere ngl theres a guarantee the people at the top just patched it just enough they can still do shady shit and cut costs with scrutiny.
@@NotAGoodUsername360nah, Carnival International will just continue to bribe regulatory enforcers into ignoring violations like they'd been doing. The fines they _might_ have to pay _in the event_ of another accident are nothing compared to the years of profits they _will_ make until that day comes, especially since they won't have to worry about competing with smaller companies that don't have the money to bribe regulators into giving them the same advantages. And the best part for them? No safety inspector would ever openly rat them out for their bribery since he'd immediately expose himself for having _accepted_ bribes.
He didn't say that, the original line would be translated something like "trouble of the soul". Doesn't make much sense in Italian either, it's dialect, good translation call by internet historian tho
To be clear, when they say captains are expected to "go down with the ship", it doesn't mean that they LITERALLY have to die if they happen to crash, it just means that they're supposed to be one of if not THE last person off the ship, or at least until the situation they're in poses an IMMEDIATE danger. This is because they're expected to have control of the situation and give updates, oversee evacuation procedures, assist their crew, etc. Basically everything Schettino DIDN'T do by ditching as soon as possible.
More or less, they're expected to be the last one off after seeing to the safety of all hands so long as they are capable (there have been incidents where the captain was knocked clear and only recovered later on still alive, or the captain is injured and the senior most capable officer takes over while the captain is evaced for medical treatment) but if it's not possible to save everyone (like with the Titanic) then the captain is expected to die or at least go down with the ship and take their chances in the water. That's part of the trade off for being captain. It's worth noting this rule was initially put in place back in the day because of scumbag captains that got their position through wealth or connections who would happily boss everyone around until it was time for an emergency and then ditch them to save their skin. Specifically one major incident where a ship was crippled in the 17-1800s or so and the Captain and Officers got in their only lifeboat and told the enlisted crew effectively "Die for us you peons, we're more important than you" and sailed back to port where they claimed an accident had happened where everyone below deck had instantly been killed and they were the only survivors and escaped for lack of better options. And then it turns out the guys they abandoned saved the ship, repaired it and sailed back to port, immediately proving them all liars.
Funnily enough there are numerous examples in history of crews having to physically throw their captain out of a ship and into a lifeboat because they wanted to go down with their ship in a situation where everybody else was already safely evacuated
@@deeznoots6241 Some consider it a manner of honor. Others just know their career is probably going to be ruined by losing a ship, especially if it's their fault and they'd rather just die then have to face the music. Schettino's terrible way of handling the situation wasn't entirely because he was just THAT incompetent and a moron, he knew damn well what was going on, he was just in denial because he knew the ship was lost and he was going to be in serious trouble for it because it was his fault for doing the sail by salute so badly.
@@bob1986 Funny thing is, if he had done what he was supposed to do and performed a normal evac, he wouldn't have been so fucked. Sure he still was gonna lose a lot, but he wouldn't have had blood on his hands. That was very foolish of him.
Indeed, Captain Sully was a pilot who had his plane turn into a sinking boat, and he also performed this perfectly. He and his first officer were the last two men out of the cabin.
The Humanscale of extreme incompetence is truly profound. "Hey let's hire this guy who has a track record of crashing ships, ya know the 570 million dollar ship that has hundreds of people on board and must be controlled with extreme accuracy." "Genius, let's also hire a helmsman with a HUGE language barrier." "You mean a position where communication is not only key but CRITICAL in almost every way." "Duh."
Really just said "Hey, so you know how our company has delivered hundreds of enjoyable trips where our passengers have been able to have faith in the captain and the other crew?" "Yeah, why?" "Well, how about we-"
Really feels like the only factor that went into hiring the crew of the ship for the cruise company was how cheaply they could hire and how little they could pay them, you know? I'm sure there was far more experienced Mariners available to be hired for captain, helmsman, or other positions on the bridge in the Mediterranean but that would require money being spent wouldn't it? And we can't have that. That would eat into profits after all.
@@Rory_Shade There's clear indications, if not directly stated in this video then in other sources, that the company deliberately did this to increase profits. There is no management logic here. There are no errors in the people that hired the crew whatsoever. It was pure unadulterated malice and greed. There's a _navigator officer_ who reacted to the video and pointed it out directly: They do it (as in, it is done very often in the field so obviously it works) simply to increase profits.
The below deck crew & engineers are some of the unsung heroes of this whole mess. They did the absolute *most* to keep that ship functioning and afloat for as long as possible, regardless of incompetent orders.
Schettino was actually fully certified as a captain. SailorVince is a Navigational Officer who reacted to this as well, and he pointed out how since there are generally fewer openings than qualified people, captains often take other postings while the wait for something to open up. This is what Schettino did. Unfortunately, while being qualified to command a bridge crew on a ship, he's also crap in crisis, crumbling almost instantly. Which is what you _don't_ want in your cruise or ocean liner captain. Fortunately, due in no small part to the fact that Captain Smith had postponed the evacuation drill aboard _RMS Titanic_ , evacuation drills are mandatory any time a ship takes on new crew and passengers, so the passengers aboard _Costa Concordia_ mostly knew what to do in this situation. Unfortunately Schettino was in denial for so long that the ship's list became too great to be able to launch all lifeboats. Fortunately she was close to shore, so it wasn't deep enough there to sink fully, and rescue crews could do what they needed to. Unfortunately there were still people trapped in submerged areas, as well as in the ship's elevators. Fortunately, other people took charge, and most of those aboard were able to evacuate. In the case of _Titanic_ 's sinking, first officer Murdoch ordered the watertight doors closed _before_ the impact, and his crew could understand his commands, so the swing-out of the stern was successful. He also ordered lifeboats be prepared just in case, and had Thomas Andrews, the ship's designer, go below to assess the damage. They knew the ship was essentially lost very quickly. Unfortunately, for the lack of drills, they didn't know exactly how to evacuate, and some passengers and crew even got lost both within the ship and out on the deck. Worse, there weren't enough lifeboats and most were launched before they could be completely filled. The lifeboats in _Titanic_ 's time were a whole other matter, because they were seen as a way to ferry people from the sinking ship to a rescue ship already on-station. They were seen as notoriously dangerous to try to stay in, because ship crews kept trying to launch them in choppy and/or stormy conditions, which resulted in the people aboard being launched into the water and drowning. So most passengers thought it was safer to stay on the ship, which was supposed to stay afloat at least until help arrived. The engineers and Marconi wireless operators kept the lights and radio going for as long as they could, then got out when things got dangerous, but basically very little of the crew escaped, partially due to the whole 'women and children only / first' thing. Murdoch and Smith did try to call the lifeboats back to fully load them, but in most cases the people on the lifeboats were too scared of being pulled under the ship by the suction to try it. _Titanic_ lasted nearly 3 hours before her final plunge, but _SS California_ , which was close enough for passengers to see the lights from the ship, did not move to respond. Despite steaming at all speed, _RMS Carpathia_ was still hours away, and would be the first to arrive on-scene. Her captain told the captain of _RMS Olympic_ (the real reason the ship class had a reputation for being 'unsinkable' despite White Star Line never advertising the ships as such), to turn around, since seeing the near-identical sister of the ship they'd just escaped might spook the survivors. All of this is to say that if the crew of _Titanic_ had been on _Costa Concordia_ , they would have likely saved everyone. If the reverse had been the case, though, nearly everyone on _Titanic_ would have likely drowned.
The thing about the Californian is that the *one* radio/telegraph operator went to sleep...after the Titanic's Marconi operators told him to stop sending them Ice Warnings, they were busy sorting through backlog. Reportedly, during the sinking, some crew did notice the Titanic's distress rockets...but assumed it was a party, because the duration wasn't the standard for distress.
Only one lifeboat from the Titanic was launched at or exceeding its nominal capacity, and one of the collapsible lifeboats wasn’t so much launched as thrown off the roof of the bridge into the water already on the deck, resulting in it landing upside down and unable to be righted, though a large group of men managed to balance themselves on the underside of that lifeboat and survive.
@@ZKP314there's also some evidence to suggest that Rowe and Boxhall also weren't firing only white rockets (international standard for distress), but may also have been firing green and red ones as well, which would normally be reserved for company semaphore. The lack of effective emergency training (for passengers and crew alike) ran so much deeper than just the one cancelled boat drill.
One point: It wasn't Rostron who ordered _Olympic_ to stay on her course-it was survivor and White Star managing director JB Ismay. He had busied himself with helping the officers get women and children away until he couldn't find any more, and then spent the following day trying to make arrangements for the surviving crew when they landed in New York so they wouldn't be stranded with nothing. He was also behind the decision not to allow any newspaper interviews over the radio, reserving it exclusively for transmitting the list of survivors as efficiently as possible for the sake of their families waiting anxiously at home. Ismay is often characterised as a selfish, inconsiderate businessman who put profits ahead of safety and treated his clientele like property, but that was almost entirely fabricated by the American corporate media, whose most powerful boss had a personal grudge against him. The reality is that he always tried to give his customers and employees the very best, but also didn't know very much about safety engineering and probably experienced some diminished capacity to make effective leadership decisions due to his cocaine habit-something not at all uncommon in the Edwardian period.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy "Ismay is often characterised as a selfish, inconsiderate businessman who put profits ahead of safety and treated his clientele like property, but that was almost entirely fabricated by the American corporate media, whose most powerful boss had a personal grudge against him." This may have been exacerbated by the fact that a lot of rich, American and British men died onboard. Many of them just so happened to be blood relatives of multiple personal friends of the bosses of North American Corporate Printing and Publishing Companies (the very lifeblood that constituted corporate media in 1912). Most of that anger and hatred harboured by Hearst himself towards Ismay was because one John Jacob Astor the Fourth (one of the richest men on the planet at the time and a staple of New York City's Elite Aristocracy) drowned on board, and the grief overwhelmed him to abscond with proper judgement and measured consideration. What Lila hinted at several times is that many people would naturally hold the crew accountable should anyone die in a shipwreck. This from my own point of view, is not restricted to the poor or the rich, but universal amongst all humans who deal with the loss of a close friend or relative differently AND often in incredibly maladaptive ways. One of those "incredibly maladaptive ways" is to write tons of inflammatory articles about the crew on board.
My sister works in yachting (there is a lot of overlap with the cruise industry). She told me that going from head of security to captain isn't that unheard of in the industry. What often happens is that someone has the credentials to be a captain, but there are no captain positions available. So, they get a job in a company to get their foot in the door, and wait until a position opens up, and they can apply internally for it. Also, it is the captains responsibility to have competent crew on the bridge. The helmsman might have been new, but he could have honestly wanted to be a good helmsman and needed experience. It is the captain's responsibility to relieve him and get another helmsman when they are doing a dangerous maneuver close to shore. And let the new guy get his feet wet when they are out to sea and there is nothing to run in to.
I’m glad you at least understood why the Captains Mistress was being mentioned in this video as much as she was. Too many people reacting to this didn’t seem to get it and just chalked it up to pointless drama to pad out the video.
There was actually another crazy boat you should check out. The Oceanos where the crew abandoned ship without telling the passengers that it was going to sink, nor did they put out ANY distress signal. It was actually the entertainment group that put out distress calls and helped organize rescue measures
There is also the MV Sewol, where the crew told passengers to stay in their cabins while the crew were abandoning the vessel, resulting in over 300 deaths, the majority of which were high school children, ultimately leading to the captain and 3 other members of crew to be convicted of murder, oh and the government super fucked up in it too, the coast guard arrived 40 minutes after local fishermen had already started trying to evacuate people and the government initially reported on the news that everybody had been safely evacuated.
Her saying "thees ees the second time I die" when 32 other people ACTUALLY died is such a psychotic narcissist thing to say. The "look at me, I'm a big hero" activism afterward just confirms it.
@@WWIIRangerA lot of activists are actually risking their safety, freedom if not their entire lives to fight for a better future. There's idiots in every group of people, but still...
@@luckygallagladiMost people who take such risks at all are already known and confirmed to be sociopaths. The best example of this was the case during the Boxing Day Earthquake and Tsunami of 2004, where one of the main people who took extra risks to save people from the brutality of a disturbed Indian Ocean after-current was revealed to be a fugitive on the run from the Australian Police.
as an italian, i remember seeing this happening live on news and seeing this being talked about like this now is crazy. What's crazier is hearing people talking about it only really recently.
I remember hearing it in the news back then, didn't pay much mind to it, but I specifically remember how someone was telling the captain to go back to the ship and recount how many are left, aka, "the captain's last to abandon ship wtf are you doing in a boat already?!" Then I was watching the video of IH being shocked at the incompetence, got to the part I described and said "WAIT, I REMEMBER THIS IN THE NEWS!" I didn't even remember the name of the ship.
One thing worth noting that got cut here for the sake of a good story (but which Internet Historian comments on in some of the notes and the Q&A that eventually came out) is that the trial was a *lot* more nuanced. A lot of the witness testimony directly contradicted evidence from recordings and the black box, but was allowed to stand regardless. There's been a lot of speculation that the Italian government intended to make the captain a scapegoat for the entire incident after the parent company bribed their way out of criminal liability. The captain appealed his case to the EU Court of Human Rights on those grounds, claiming he didn't receive a fair trial, but as of yet I've heard no news on that so its hard to say what's true and what isn't on that without pouring over the court records myself.
A few months after the Concordia sunk, I was going on a Carnival cruise with my childhood friends. Their first one and they were scared something would happen. Welp, something did. 2 out of 4 engines broke down in the middle of the itinerary. But no emergency, just changed the next destination to respect the schedule of the trip, plus refunds and discounts for activities for the new island
This incident is why cruise ships are very adamant about their accident procedures, particularly informing passengers on how to abandon ship. Part of the reason why things got so bad was because of complacency and lack of proper procedure, as the video puts it, so everything was ironed out quickly after this.
8:14 - A civilian that UNDERSTANDS that my B Doubles/Road Trains that I drive can't stop due to sheer mass and momentum? AND A KAWAII VTUBER?? Take my subscription, gratitude, and loyalty Lila-sama.
A lot of this could’ve been avoided if he just accepted that he fucked up and called for help but he denied it for so damn long. Idk what worse the captain doing that or what internet historian did to that spaghetti.
IH has 4 channels. Main channel (this one). Incognito mode (basically his fuck around channel + Q&As). Storymode (channel where he comedically retells the plots of games, its very funny). Live, Laugh, Love (his stream archive channel, borderline dead at this point but still has funny stuff on it).
I got recommended this video because I binge watch and rewatch IH videos. Gotta say, you've got a good balance of listening and making commentary, unlike almost every reaction RUclipsr. They're always laughing at everything that's not funny, or screaming, or saying nothing, or just won't stop talking.
One of the saddest parts of the whole thing, is that none of the deaths were from the crash itself, it was during the delayed evacuation. It is not unreasonable to think that had the Captain responded correctly to the situation there might have been significantly lower fatalities, potentially none at all.
Haha The Disney Atlantis movie is probably one of my old time favorites. I'm glad you like it too. They had a really cool submarine in that. Thanks for the react video Lila! Look forward to more vids!
Yooo, 1 hour of Lila reacting? Nice! I'm loving these wholesome reactions! Such interesting takes and great choice of vids to react to! Keep up the vids! ^_^
I remember learning about the sinking of the Concordia before it was cool. I saw it in a documentary where they compared it to the sinking of the Titanic. It was really interesting!
This isn't the first Lila video I've seen. And it went be the last. But early enough along I wanted to document that she's so chill and I love it. The perfect type I feel one can just ramble on about anything and have an ongoing discussion with in perfect comfort. So comfy!
Keep in mind, even with corporate greed, that bridge had at least three people in it who all could have protested having a helmsman who can't speak the majority languages well enough to follow orders. All could have lodged a protest (with the regulatory bureaus if nothing else) and saved thirty three people (one killed in a salvage accident, admittedly).
So the thing about the Titanic is that, what the movies don't exactly show, is that IRL the Iceberg blended in with the sky behind it-the lookout saw it due to the *absence of stars behind it.* From there, the ship had about...40 seconds, before it hit. To the bridge crew's credit, they did their best, and it turned a head on collision into a few second scrape. Granted, that didn't stop the ship from sinking, but it could've been much, much worse.
Actually it was later in hindsight decided that a head on collision would have been better. More people would have died in the initial crash and the ship would have been crippled but it could have remained afloat for much much longer and long enough for help to arrive. More people would have survived in the end if they'd hit head on. But of course that's hindsight, obviously they were trying to avoid a hit all together.
Wow, this is my first time watching your stuff, and your voice caught me off guard with how chill and monotone it is compared to your cute chibi vtuber avatar😭.
To be fair about the whole suddenly becoming a captain from working security, its actually common for those who are qualified to be captains to work other lower jobs as they wait for the position to open on another ship. Ive known a person who was trained as a caption work on 1 ship in catering and other positions while he waited for a new ship to finished being built.
32:40 Got really defensive there.. and not that much earlier expressed how exciting it would be to loot a cruise ship.. me thinks we found the bell thief.
My power's been out all day and even though it came on just now I was gonna sleep but saw this pop up, so guess I'm not sleeping lol. This is one of IH's best videos, so I'm stoked to see you react to it.
35:03 - For the record, she wasn’t in the bridge that night. IH did a follow-up on Incognito Mode and elaborated on her involvement. If I recall right, she was in her personal cabin till the crash happened and the extent of her actual work involvement with the crash was just her try to get in people’s grill for trying to film the crisis.
49:07 Masabumi Hosono was the only Japanese passenger on the RMS Titanic. He survived the ship's sinking, but found himself condemned and ostracized by the Japanese public, press and government for his decision to save himself rather than go down with the ship. Personally I'd rather end the die with honor or live as a coward thing it generates stuff like that, but if i was one of the primary reason why the ship is sinking I'd stay until I don't see more passengers to evacuate, not out of seeking honor in my possible death but out of remorse and bc I owe them at least safe passage to land
@@JayTohab not sure what you mean? I was just saying I have two RUclips accounts (one personal and another that's public for streaming) so I can give 2 likes and subs instead of just one
I recommended watching the extra video IH put out as well. It goes into more details on various parts. To be fair, the captain sounds to have been decent at captaining. He was qualified to be a captain before being made a captain and the two disaster weren’t nearly as bad as the sounded. IH said he hyped them up a bit to keep the flow. The crash was caused by a cascade of failures caused by Carnival/Costa and the ships senior staff. And the captain probably would have saved the ship if the navigator hadn’t panicked. That said, the captain failed to handle the emergency just as badly as it sounded and did deserve punishment in my opinion. But, so should have the rest of the responsible. They got out of their punishments by throwing the captain under the bus.
Hey Lila, I just discovered your channel and I've been binging it. Seeing your love for "Internet Historian", maybe you'd like "Ask A Mortician". She also does long documentary-styled videos but centered on her main job (mortician, ofc). From scandals in the mortuary industry to famous people's bodies or accidents (like the Donner Party or the Titanic), and their history through decades, but being respectful and thorough. I find it very entertaining, so I wanted to direct you to it. Thanks for your content!
I like this girl's vibes. Some of the stuff she says makes me feel like she's wiser than a lot of vtubers. But she also says some random bullshit sometimes which is great.
And to think that until after the actual crash, the captain did almost everything right (The acceleration thing was his only mistake up to that point). If his orders hadn't been messed up 3 times in a row, there never would have been a crash.
Things like this are the reason why I always look up evacuation routes, ralley points and where stuff like the life jackets and fire fighting equipment is. If there is any non minor disturbance on a ship I am on, first thing I do is making my way to the rally point with a life jacked. At best I overreacted, at worst I made it out of a disaster alive on a lifeboat.
The really irritating part here is that, despite all of Schettino' s bullshit , his commands when they were about to crash might have actually saved the ship , if not for the Helmsman fucking up thrice in a row.
It did seem like he geniunely knew what he was doing in commanding and navigating, although they wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place if he hadn't recklessly hot rodded the ship and got so close to try to show off. Afterwards though, he proved to be a total coward when problems actively happened.
If you want more of these types of retellings of incidents, though not as tongue in cheek. Mentour Pilot has a ton of videos on incidents in the aviation industry where he explains them from a pilots perspective.
I randomly clicked on this video because it was recommended and I do like watching reactions to IH, I was *not* expecting that voice from that avatar lol
I personally find insurance companies useful: Few people can afford to buy a new house if, for example, the old one burns down. Of course I know, or rather I guess, why someone would hate them. That's quite understandable because certain things are organized differently in different countries.
Oh, De Falco was internally fired within the italian Navy. To fire someone internally is when you have no cause to fire a person so you transfere a him to a dead end position in the organization where he is out of the way but still on the payroll. Internal firings happens often within the Swedish steel insudtry. These people typically get trasfered to positions where they work 12 hour shifts but do actual work for about 1 hour a day. Their main job is to collect money, to be out of the way and to try not to die from boredom.
8:14 As a driver of one of those "heavy duty trucks" myself, thank you SO MUCH for saying this. I can't tell you how many times people will fly up next to me, cut in front of me and then slam on their brakes to pull into a driveway or turn onto another street instead of just waiting behind me for 4 extra seconds. An 80,000 pound truck traveling at 55 MPH crashing into the back of your 3500 pound Ford Fusion is not gonna end well for you.
Great vid! Came across your channel yesterday and already liking your personality and content so far! Looking forward to more whether it's reactions or gameplay down the line!
Fun/not so fun facts: An actual naval officer reacted to the original video and gave some interesting info. Scattino going from head of security to the position of captain actually isn't too weird. As a lot of naval officers who pass all the needed tests to hold the position of captain usually find some other job to pay the bills while they wait for new positions to open up. He also, unfortunately, confirms that a lot of the awful practices shown in the video are still happening today (Unqualified people hired to important positions so companies can save money, complacency with procedure when a captain has done the same route dozens of times and feels confident enough to "eyeball it" , uncomfotrable situations between the rest of the crew and the captain when they bring civilians on the bridge etc) Jacob Rusli Bin has ,as of me writting this comment, still not been found.
Most Cruises don't cost all that much a three night cruise for two in normal suites is roughly $550 and if you are one of the few going on cruises that can get the best of the best then it's 80k. But for the most part cruises are something people can think are for rich people when in reality it's mostly middle class people.
I heard a lot of older people just go on nonstop cruises instead of paying for expensive retirement homes. Food, medical, nice beds, laundry services. Doesn't sound like a bad idea.
37:11 from what I recall some testing methods do provide false positives when testing hair samples that has a lot of hair products in it, most likely it detected his hair products and their method gave it as a false positive.
After watching this video over 10 times, I think I finally understand what the lady was trying to say in the confusing post-court interview: “I’m so embarrassed I could die. First I had anxiety and depression from all this and everyone coming after me, and now this is the second time because I’m extremely embarrassed that people have now found out about something very personal that I’d tried to keep hidden for years.”
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The saddest part about this whole mess is that *nobody* died from the crash itself. Everyone who died, died because the bridge crew waited till the last minute to sound a general emergency. At which point everyone was in a panic and people whp *could* have been helped got left behind.
Unless they were in an elevator. Then the crash killed them.
@@turretboi I think that would of been mentioned.
@@tonypeppermint5329 would have*.... sorry pet peeve of mine, would of doesn't mean anything.
I swear this comment appears on every reaction video about IH's video about the Costa Concordia
Really? I had assumed that a decent number of them were the engineering crew getting flooded out?!?
I love how this accident has become a common example for ship crews in damage control and other emergency scenarios.
Yep, literally the modern titanic for sailors.
Sadly, it often takes a massive screw-up to get people to take these things seriously.
@@theoneguyoverthere ngl theres a guarantee the people at the top just patched it just enough they can still do shady shit and cut costs with scrutiny.
@@Celticshade Well after losing half a billion dollars, they're probably reconsidering shaving those few extra dollars on staff, at the very least.
@@NotAGoodUsername360nah, Carnival International will just continue to bribe regulatory enforcers into ignoring violations like they'd been doing.
The fines they _might_ have to pay _in the event_ of another accident are nothing compared to the years of profits they _will_ make until that day comes, especially since they won't have to worry about competing with smaller companies that don't have the money to bribe regulators into giving them the same advantages.
And the best part for them? No safety inspector would ever openly rat them out for their bribery since he'd immediately expose himself for having _accepted_ bribes.
the fact that de falco said " i will put you in a boatload of trouble." thats a true chefs kiss of a line.
He didn't say that, the original line would be translated something like "trouble of the soul". Doesn't make much sense in Italian either, it's dialect, good translation call by internet historian tho
@@npc6817 I was about to comment that the translation couldn’t be direct. A better translation probably would’ve been ‘I’ll give you hell.’
@psychokinrazalon yeah, but Id say the boat pun was worth the inaccuracy:3
The entire tale of this ship can be summed up with
'Well at least it can't get worse.. Oh it got worse'
Knowing from Warhammer 40k:
It doesn't matter what you're doing,it ALWAYS gets worse 😂
@@Spartan135 There is no situation, no matter how dire, that the Inquisition can't make worse.
@@RyanEX2000 and then virus bomb the planet from orbit...
@@Spartan135 After abandoning an Astartes chapter with Ork "snipers"...
Yeah you can't ever do anything worse than that :)
To be clear, when they say captains are expected to "go down with the ship", it doesn't mean that they LITERALLY have to die if they happen to crash, it just means that they're supposed to be one of if not THE last person off the ship, or at least until the situation they're in poses an IMMEDIATE danger. This is because they're expected to have control of the situation and give updates, oversee evacuation procedures, assist their crew, etc. Basically everything Schettino DIDN'T do by ditching as soon as possible.
More or less, they're expected to be the last one off after seeing to the safety of all hands so long as they are capable (there have been incidents where the captain was knocked clear and only recovered later on still alive, or the captain is injured and the senior most capable officer takes over while the captain is evaced for medical treatment) but if it's not possible to save everyone (like with the Titanic) then the captain is expected to die or at least go down with the ship and take their chances in the water. That's part of the trade off for being captain. It's worth noting this rule was initially put in place back in the day because of scumbag captains that got their position through wealth or connections who would happily boss everyone around until it was time for an emergency and then ditch them to save their skin. Specifically one major incident where a ship was crippled in the 17-1800s or so and the Captain and Officers got in their only lifeboat and told the enlisted crew effectively "Die for us you peons, we're more important than you" and sailed back to port where they claimed an accident had happened where everyone below deck had instantly been killed and they were the only survivors and escaped for lack of better options. And then it turns out the guys they abandoned saved the ship, repaired it and sailed back to port, immediately proving them all liars.
Funnily enough there are numerous examples in history of crews having to physically throw their captain out of a ship and into a lifeboat because they wanted to go down with their ship in a situation where everybody else was already safely evacuated
@@deeznoots6241 Some consider it a manner of honor. Others just know their career is probably going to be ruined by losing a ship, especially if it's their fault and they'd rather just die then have to face the music. Schettino's terrible way of handling the situation wasn't entirely because he was just THAT incompetent and a moron, he knew damn well what was going on, he was just in denial because he knew the ship was lost and he was going to be in serious trouble for it because it was his fault for doing the sail by salute so badly.
@@bob1986 Funny thing is, if he had done what he was supposed to do and performed a normal evac, he wouldn't have been so fucked. Sure he still was gonna lose a lot, but he wouldn't have had blood on his hands. That was very foolish of him.
Indeed, Captain Sully was a pilot who had his plane turn into a sinking boat, and he also performed this perfectly. He and his first officer were the last two men out of the cabin.
The Humanscale of extreme incompetence is truly profound.
"Hey let's hire this guy who has a track record of crashing ships, ya know the 570 million dollar ship that has hundreds of people on board and must be controlled with extreme accuracy."
"Genius, let's also hire a helmsman with a HUGE language barrier."
"You mean a position where communication is not only key but CRITICAL in almost every way."
"Duh."
Really just said
"Hey, so you know how our company has delivered hundreds of enjoyable trips where our passengers have been able to have faith in the captain and the other crew?"
"Yeah, why?"
"Well, how about we-"
@@faintduch6630 “Lets mix it up a little!”
Not only a guy who can't really speak Italian or English, a guy whose prior work experience is painting or cleaning houses! It's genius!
Really feels like the only factor that went into hiring the crew of the ship for the cruise company was how cheaply they could hire and how little they could pay them, you know? I'm sure there was far more experienced Mariners available to be hired for captain, helmsman, or other positions on the bridge in the Mediterranean but that would require money being spent wouldn't it? And we can't have that. That would eat into profits after all.
@@Rory_Shade There's clear indications, if not directly stated in this video then in other sources, that the company deliberately did this to increase profits.
There is no management logic here. There are no errors in the people that hired the crew whatsoever. It was pure unadulterated malice and greed.
There's a _navigator officer_ who reacted to the video and pointed it out directly: They do it (as in, it is done very often in the field so obviously it works) simply to increase profits.
The below deck crew & engineers are some of the unsung heroes of this whole mess. They did the absolute *most* to keep that ship functioning and afloat for as long as possible, regardless of incompetent orders.
Yep.
Ok, but "Sentimental? Girl, YOU'RE mental" is a banger line though.
Bars
I relish on that sentence with my psychological brain.
It was a once in a lifetime burn
Schettino was actually fully certified as a captain. SailorVince is a Navigational Officer who reacted to this as well, and he pointed out how since there are generally fewer openings than qualified people, captains often take other postings while the wait for something to open up. This is what Schettino did. Unfortunately, while being qualified to command a bridge crew on a ship, he's also crap in crisis, crumbling almost instantly. Which is what you _don't_ want in your cruise or ocean liner captain. Fortunately, due in no small part to the fact that Captain Smith had postponed the evacuation drill aboard _RMS Titanic_ , evacuation drills are mandatory any time a ship takes on new crew and passengers, so the passengers aboard _Costa Concordia_ mostly knew what to do in this situation. Unfortunately Schettino was in denial for so long that the ship's list became too great to be able to launch all lifeboats. Fortunately she was close to shore, so it wasn't deep enough there to sink fully, and rescue crews could do what they needed to. Unfortunately there were still people trapped in submerged areas, as well as in the ship's elevators. Fortunately, other people took charge, and most of those aboard were able to evacuate.
In the case of _Titanic_ 's sinking, first officer Murdoch ordered the watertight doors closed _before_ the impact, and his crew could understand his commands, so the swing-out of the stern was successful. He also ordered lifeboats be prepared just in case, and had Thomas Andrews, the ship's designer, go below to assess the damage. They knew the ship was essentially lost very quickly. Unfortunately, for the lack of drills, they didn't know exactly how to evacuate, and some passengers and crew even got lost both within the ship and out on the deck. Worse, there weren't enough lifeboats and most were launched before they could be completely filled. The lifeboats in _Titanic_ 's time were a whole other matter, because they were seen as a way to ferry people from the sinking ship to a rescue ship already on-station. They were seen as notoriously dangerous to try to stay in, because ship crews kept trying to launch them in choppy and/or stormy conditions, which resulted in the people aboard being launched into the water and drowning. So most passengers thought it was safer to stay on the ship, which was supposed to stay afloat at least until help arrived. The engineers and Marconi wireless operators kept the lights and radio going for as long as they could, then got out when things got dangerous, but basically very little of the crew escaped, partially due to the whole 'women and children only / first' thing. Murdoch and Smith did try to call the lifeboats back to fully load them, but in most cases the people on the lifeboats were too scared of being pulled under the ship by the suction to try it. _Titanic_ lasted nearly 3 hours before her final plunge, but _SS California_ , which was close enough for passengers to see the lights from the ship, did not move to respond. Despite steaming at all speed, _RMS Carpathia_ was still hours away, and would be the first to arrive on-scene. Her captain told the captain of _RMS Olympic_ (the real reason the ship class had a reputation for being 'unsinkable' despite White Star Line never advertising the ships as such), to turn around, since seeing the near-identical sister of the ship they'd just escaped might spook the survivors.
All of this is to say that if the crew of _Titanic_ had been on _Costa Concordia_ , they would have likely saved everyone. If the reverse had been the case, though, nearly everyone on _Titanic_ would have likely drowned.
The thing about the Californian is that the *one* radio/telegraph operator went to sleep...after the Titanic's Marconi operators told him to stop sending them Ice Warnings, they were busy sorting through backlog. Reportedly, during the sinking, some crew did notice the Titanic's distress rockets...but assumed it was a party, because the duration wasn't the standard for distress.
Only one lifeboat from the Titanic was launched at or exceeding its nominal capacity, and one of the collapsible lifeboats wasn’t so much launched as thrown off the roof of the bridge into the water already on the deck, resulting in it landing upside down and unable to be righted, though a large group of men managed to balance themselves on the underside of that lifeboat and survive.
@@ZKP314there's also some evidence to suggest that Rowe and Boxhall also weren't firing only white rockets (international standard for distress), but may also have been firing green and red ones as well, which would normally be reserved for company semaphore. The lack of effective emergency training (for passengers and crew alike) ran so much deeper than just the one cancelled boat drill.
One point: It wasn't Rostron who ordered _Olympic_ to stay on her course-it was survivor and White Star managing director JB Ismay. He had busied himself with helping the officers get women and children away until he couldn't find any more, and then spent the following day trying to make arrangements for the surviving crew when they landed in New York so they wouldn't be stranded with nothing. He was also behind the decision not to allow any newspaper interviews over the radio, reserving it exclusively for transmitting the list of survivors as efficiently as possible for the sake of their families waiting anxiously at home.
Ismay is often characterised as a selfish, inconsiderate businessman who put profits ahead of safety and treated his clientele like property, but that was almost entirely fabricated by the American corporate media, whose most powerful boss had a personal grudge against him.
The reality is that he always tried to give his customers and employees the very best, but also didn't know very much about safety engineering and probably experienced some diminished capacity to make effective leadership decisions due to his cocaine habit-something not at all uncommon in the Edwardian period.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy "Ismay is often characterised as a selfish, inconsiderate businessman who put profits ahead of safety and treated his clientele like property, but that was almost entirely fabricated by the American corporate media, whose most powerful boss had a personal grudge against him." This may have been exacerbated by the fact that a lot of rich, American and British men died onboard. Many of them just so happened to be blood relatives of multiple personal friends of the bosses of North American Corporate Printing and Publishing Companies (the very lifeblood that constituted corporate media in 1912). Most of that anger and hatred harboured by Hearst himself towards Ismay was because one John Jacob Astor the Fourth (one of the richest men on the planet at the time and a staple of New York City's Elite Aristocracy) drowned on board, and the grief overwhelmed him to abscond with proper judgement and measured consideration. What Lila hinted at several times is that many people would naturally hold the crew accountable should anyone die in a shipwreck. This from my own point of view, is not restricted to the poor or the rich, but universal amongst all humans who deal with the loss of a close friend or relative differently AND often in incredibly maladaptive ways.
One of those "incredibly maladaptive ways" is to write tons of inflammatory articles about the crew on board.
My sister works in yachting (there is a lot of overlap with the cruise industry). She told me that going from head of security to captain isn't that unheard of in the industry. What often happens is that someone has the credentials to be a captain, but there are no captain positions available. So, they get a job in a company to get their foot in the door, and wait until a position opens up, and they can apply internally for it.
Also, it is the captains responsibility to have competent crew on the bridge. The helmsman might have been new, but he could have honestly wanted to be a good helmsman and needed experience. It is the captain's responsibility to relieve him and get another helmsman when they are doing a dangerous maneuver close to shore. And let the new guy get his feet wet when they are out to sea and there is nothing to run in to.
Sailor Vince, another reactor, corroborates that information about how the captain went from security to captain
I’m glad you at least understood why the Captains Mistress was being mentioned in this video as much as she was. Too many people reacting to this didn’t seem to get it and just chalked it up to pointless drama to pad out the video.
Not surprised. People can be really dense especially on RUclips.
@@SolidSnake240 Me. The dense is me.
@@JayTohab 🤣🤣 we all got our moments
@@SolidSnake240 Hasan piker moment
Funny nuff I've never seen any Vtuber reacts fail that.
*Just plain built different, yo!*
There was actually another crazy boat you should check out. The Oceanos where the crew abandoned ship without telling the passengers that it was going to sink, nor did they put out ANY distress signal. It was actually the entertainment group that put out distress calls and helped organize rescue measures
There is also the MV Sewol, where the crew told passengers to stay in their cabins while the crew were abandoning the vessel, resulting in over 300 deaths, the majority of which were high school children, ultimately leading to the captain and 3 other members of crew to be convicted of murder, oh and the government super fucked up in it too, the coast guard arrived 40 minutes after local fishermen had already started trying to evacuate people and the government initially reported on the news that everybody had been safely evacuated.
The vice principal who was able to evaluate later hung himself from a tree.
Or, for a less horrifying and more comedic case, SS _Jeddah._
@@DistractedGlobeGuyand a WAY MORE horrific case: The Arctic (1854).
@@mateovillacorta2279 SS _Arctic's_ crew at least tried.
Her saying "thees ees the second time I die" when 32 other people ACTUALLY died is such a psychotic narcissist thing to say.
The "look at me, I'm a big hero" activism afterward just confirms it.
So like any other activist, got it.
Are you not entertained?
Is this not why you are here?
@WWIIRanger not all activist are like that just half or most
@@WWIIRangerA lot of activists are actually risking their safety, freedom if not their entire lives to fight for a better future. There's idiots in every group of people, but still...
@@luckygallagladiMost people who take such risks at all are already known and confirmed to be sociopaths. The best example of this was the case during the Boxing Day Earthquake and Tsunami of 2004, where one of the main people who took extra risks to save people from the brutality of a disturbed Indian Ocean after-current was revealed to be a fugitive on the run from the Australian Police.
as an italian, i remember seeing this happening live on news and seeing this being talked about like this now is crazy. What's crazier is hearing people talking about it only really recently.
I remember hearing it in the news back then, didn't pay much mind to it, but I specifically remember how someone was telling the captain to go back to the ship and recount how many are left, aka, "the captain's last to abandon ship wtf are you doing in a boat already?!"
Then I was watching the video of IH being shocked at the incompetence, got to the part I described and said "WAIT, I REMEMBER THIS IN THE NEWS!"
I didn't even remember the name of the ship.
The only thing I remember at the time was seeing it in national news and all of the “Vada a bordo, cazzo” memes that floated around after.
One thing worth noting that got cut here for the sake of a good story (but which Internet Historian comments on in some of the notes and the Q&A that eventually came out) is that the trial was a *lot* more nuanced. A lot of the witness testimony directly contradicted evidence from recordings and the black box, but was allowed to stand regardless. There's been a lot of speculation that the Italian government intended to make the captain a scapegoat for the entire incident after the parent company bribed their way out of criminal liability. The captain appealed his case to the EU Court of Human Rights on those grounds, claiming he didn't receive a fair trial, but as of yet I've heard no news on that so its hard to say what's true and what isn't on that without pouring over the court records myself.
an hour of Lila is a blessed hour
first time watching her...
It's so funny seeing a toddler avatar with a deep mature mom voice. LOL
same, is kinda weird but nice combination
Same here too lmao, you wouldn't expect someone with a VTuber model like this to have a soothing mommy voice fr
What do you mean? Regular Anime Mom. If she was secretly oppai it would be even more accurate.
Oh hey, nice to see another Atlantis appreciator. One of my favourite childhood movies. They don't make 'em like they used to.
Yeah, that movie is a gem, and criminally underappreciated.
A few months after the Concordia sunk, I was going on a Carnival cruise with my childhood friends. Their first one and they were scared something would happen.
Welp, something did. 2 out of 4 engines broke down in the middle of the itinerary. But no emergency, just changed the next destination to respect the schedule of the trip, plus refunds and discounts for activities for the new island
This incident is why cruise ships are very adamant about their accident procedures, particularly informing passengers on how to abandon ship. Part of the reason why things got so bad was because of complacency and lack of proper procedure, as the video puts it, so everything was ironed out quickly after this.
8:14 - A civilian that UNDERSTANDS that my B Doubles/Road Trains that I drive can't stop due to sheer mass and momentum? AND A KAWAII VTUBER?? Take my subscription, gratitude, and loyalty Lila-sama.
A lot of this could’ve been avoided if he just accepted that he fucked up and called for help but he denied it for so damn long. Idk what worse the captain doing that or what internet historian did to that spaghetti.
Lila videos are honesty the best way to end my day
She has such an adorable little laugh. 😊
IH has 4 channels.
Main channel (this one).
Incognito mode (basically his fuck around channel + Q&As).
Storymode (channel where he comedically retells the plots of games, its very funny).
Live, Laugh, Love (his stream archive channel, borderline dead at this point but still has funny stuff on it).
I got recommended this video because I binge watch and rewatch IH videos.
Gotta say, you've got a good balance of listening and making commentary, unlike almost every reaction RUclipsr. They're always laughing at everything that's not funny, or screaming, or saying nothing, or just won't stop talking.
Lila reacting to Internet Historian makes me so happy to see
One of the saddest parts of the whole thing, is that none of the deaths were from the crash itself, it was during the delayed evacuation. It is not unreasonable to think that had the Captain responded correctly to the situation there might have been significantly lower fatalities, potentially none at all.
Respond correctly? He's a living 404 Error.
If the captain had responded correctly at all, the ship would’ve never even been damaged
Haha The Disney Atlantis movie is probably one of my old time favorites. I'm glad you like it too. They had a really cool submarine in that. Thanks for the react video Lila! Look forward to more vids!
I used to be a sailor in the US Navy, and my job was navigation. The part about the crash itself and what lead to it caused me physical fucking pain
I bet. I'm not a sailor at all and I thought it was a mess.
More Internet Historian is always welcome.
Yooo, 1 hour of Lila reacting? Nice! I'm loving these wholesome reactions! Such interesting takes and great choice of vids to react to! Keep up the vids! ^_^
Im sure some have told you but, that Q&A is reeeally worth the watch. You don't have to react to it but if you have the time, watch it when you can.
Dang, i was binge watching Internet Historian's concordia video reactions yesterday and wishing "Man, i wish Lila will react to it too". Voila!
The line " inconvenience the peasants " was awesome.
Congrats on making partner. Hopefully more will come to hear your soothing voice, and bump that criminally low subscriber count up.
I remember learning about the sinking of the Concordia before it was cool. I saw it in a documentary where they compared it to the sinking of the Titanic. It was really interesting!
This isn't the first Lila video I've seen. And it went be the last. But early enough along I wanted to document that she's so chill and I love it. The perfect type I feel one can just ramble on about anything and have an ongoing discussion with in perfect comfort. So comfy!
There's something about your way of commentary that I enjoy a lot. I hope you do more!
This channel fills me with so much joy!
Makes me sad IH had to change the music from after the crash to some copyright free spaghetti. It used to be ave maria, it was perfect.
Oooo, yay, a whole hour with Lila and IH
Keep in mind, even with corporate greed, that bridge had at least three people in it who all could have protested having a helmsman who can't speak the majority languages well enough to follow orders. All could have lodged a protest (with the regulatory bureaus if nothing else) and saved thirty three people (one killed in a salvage accident, admittedly).
"I'm intimidated" she says. we haven't even gotten to The Curses yet
So the thing about the Titanic is that, what the movies don't exactly show, is that IRL the Iceberg blended in with the sky behind it-the lookout saw it due to the *absence of stars behind it.* From there, the ship had about...40 seconds, before it hit. To the bridge crew's credit, they did their best, and it turned a head on collision into a few second scrape.
Granted, that didn't stop the ship from sinking, but it could've been much, much worse.
Actually it was later in hindsight decided that a head on collision would have been better. More people would have died in the initial crash and the ship would have been crippled but it could have remained afloat for much much longer and long enough for help to arrive. More people would have survived in the end if they'd hit head on. But of course that's hindsight, obviously they were trying to avoid a hit all together.
Wow, this is my first time watching your stuff, and your voice caught me off guard with how chill and monotone it is compared to your cute chibi vtuber avatar😭.
I love her voice
I think you meant Atlantis: The Lost Empire. Truly an underrated gem.
To be fair about the whole suddenly becoming a captain from working security, its actually common for those who are qualified to be captains to work other lower jobs as they wait for the position to open on another ship.
Ive known a person who was trained as a caption work on 1 ship in catering and other positions while he waited for a new ship to finished being built.
32:40 Got really defensive there.. and not that much earlier expressed how exciting it would be to loot a cruise ship.. me thinks we found the bell thief.
Correction:
De Falco was never part of Costa, he worked on the Italian Coast Guard
1:03. "Why am I scared?"
Me (laughing): You said that almost exactly like Ralph Wiggum from the Simpsons. "I'm in danger."
"Noire VPN" is one of my favorite IH ads, alongside the anime OP one
it's nice seeing you react to longer content. congratulations on making partner!
8:16 thank you. I’m a truck driver, and you’d honestly be surprised at just how few people understand this.
"Death before dishonor!" - Lila
My power's been out all day and even though it came on just now I was gonna sleep but saw this pop up, so guess I'm not sleeping lol. This is one of IH's best videos, so I'm stoked to see you react to it.
Been having fun watching you react to some of my favorite media, can't wait to see what else you bring to the table Lila.
This is the first vid I've found from you, was a pretty wholesome reaction, will check out more :)
Nice, more internet historian.
"It's a tragedy, I wouldn't do it"
May I tempt you with bell
Let’s gooo an hour of Lila
35:03 - For the record, she wasn’t in the bridge that night. IH did a follow-up on Incognito Mode and elaborated on her involvement. If I recall right, she was in her personal cabin till the crash happened and the extent of her actual work involvement with the crash was just her try to get in people’s grill for trying to film the crisis.
A one hour video and it's an IH video too let's gooo!!!
I appreciate your appreciation of Atlantis TLE
Taking ships bells like that is a big thing
Costa cruise is actually a pretty cheap cruise line, you can usually get deals where it costs less than $100 per night.
49:07 Masabumi Hosono was the only Japanese passenger on the RMS Titanic. He survived the ship's sinking, but found himself condemned and ostracized by the Japanese public, press and government for his decision to save himself rather than go down with the ship.
Personally I'd rather end the die with honor or live as a coward thing it generates stuff like that, but if i was one of the primary reason why the ship is sinking I'd stay until I don't see more passengers to evacuate, not out of seeking honor in my possible death but out of remorse and bc I owe them at least safe passage to land
Sad that I cannot give more likes and subs for the awesome reaction and that Atlantis reference. Thank you Lila!
Multiple accounts friend 😉
@@apollohateshisdayjob9606 Replying to yourself is not considered a healthy practice.
@@JayTohab not sure what you mean?
I was just saying I have two RUclips accounts (one personal and another that's public for streaming) so I can give 2 likes and subs instead of just one
Martin during his final magic act: I'm only human after all
Just to be clear: there was no route for a sail by salute because they are illegal. Ships still do it, but it is a large noise violation.
I recommended watching the extra video IH put out as well. It goes into more details on various parts. To be fair, the captain sounds to have been decent at captaining. He was qualified to be a captain before being made a captain and the two disaster weren’t nearly as bad as the sounded. IH said he hyped them up a bit to keep the flow. The crash was caused by a cascade of failures caused by Carnival/Costa and the ships senior staff. And the captain probably would have saved the ship if the navigator hadn’t panicked. That said, the captain failed to handle the emergency just as badly as it sounded and did deserve punishment in my opinion. But, so should have the rest of the responsible. They got out of their punishments by throwing the captain under the bus.
Hey Lila, I just discovered your channel and I've been binging it. Seeing your love for "Internet Historian", maybe you'd like "Ask A Mortician".
She also does long documentary-styled videos but centered on her main job (mortician, ofc). From scandals in the mortuary industry to famous people's bodies or accidents (like the Donner Party or the Titanic), and their history through decades, but being respectful and thorough.
I find it very entertaining, so I wanted to direct you to it.
Thanks for your content!
You gotta admit it sucks that the captain was thrown under the bus even though he deserved jail time. Everyone but him dodged responsibility.
I like this girl's vibes. Some of the stuff she says makes me feel like she's wiser than a lot of vtubers. But she also says some random bullshit sometimes which is great.
I love that this has become a trend, vtubers reacting to this glorious meme of a man
And to think that until after the actual crash, the captain did almost everything right (The acceleration thing was his only mistake up to that point). If his orders hadn't been messed up 3 times in a row, there never would have been a crash.
the linus shiptips thing gets me every time xD
Things like this are the reason why I always look up evacuation routes, ralley points and where stuff like the life jackets and fire fighting equipment is. If there is any non minor disturbance on a ship I am on, first thing I do is making my way to the rally point with a life jacked. At best I overreacted, at worst I made it out of a disaster alive on a lifeboat.
Also makes it a lot easier to relax and enjoy yourself if you know you're personally prepared for whatever might happen.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy That too.
The really irritating part here is that, despite all of Schettino' s bullshit , his commands when they were about to crash might have actually saved the ship , if not for the Helmsman fucking up thrice in a row.
It did seem like he geniunely knew what he was doing in commanding and navigating, although they wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place if he hadn't recklessly hot rodded the ship and got so close to try to show off. Afterwards though, he proved to be a total coward when problems actively happened.
@@bob1986and if he'd maintained order on his bridge-that whole _"complacency with regards to procedure"_ chapter.
Oh boy, perfect timing
If you want more of these types of retellings of incidents, though not as tongue in cheek. Mentour Pilot has a ton of videos on incidents in the aviation industry where he explains them from a pilots perspective.
I randomly clicked on this video because it was recommended and I do like watching reactions to IH, I was *not* expecting that voice from that avatar lol
I personally find insurance companies useful: Few people can afford to buy a new house if, for example, the old one burns down. Of course I know, or rather I guess, why someone would hate them. That's quite understandable because certain things are organized differently in different countries.
that was a great watch. I was plan on playing some FFXIV while listening to this, but I got so interested in this Historian xD
I've been lookin forward to this one!
Oh, De Falco was internally fired within the italian Navy. To fire someone internally is when you have no cause to fire a person so you transfere a him to a dead end position in the organization where he is out of the way but still on the payroll. Internal firings happens often within the Swedish steel insudtry. These people typically get trasfered to positions where they work 12 hour shifts but do actual work for about 1 hour a day. Their main job is to collect money, to be out of the way and to try not to die from boredom.
8:14 As a driver of one of those "heavy duty trucks" myself, thank you SO MUCH for saying this. I can't tell you how many times people will fly up next to me, cut in front of me and then slam on their brakes to pull into a driveway or turn onto another street instead of just waiting behind me for 4 extra seconds. An 80,000 pound truck traveling at 55 MPH crashing into the back of your 3500 pound Ford Fusion is not gonna end well for you.
I've been waiting for this
I freakin luv your voice! ...and yes, of course the "Captain" was primarily responsible and liable.
Great vid! Came across your channel yesterday and already liking your personality and content so far! Looking forward to more whether it's reactions or gameplay down the line!
this has to be the wildest Batch of incompetence also grats on partner
Fun/not so fun facts:
An actual naval officer reacted to the original video and gave some interesting info.
Scattino going from head of security to the position of captain actually isn't too weird. As a lot of naval officers who pass all the needed tests to hold the position of captain usually find some other job to pay the bills while they wait for new positions to open up.
He also, unfortunately, confirms that a lot of the awful practices shown in the video are still happening today
(Unqualified people hired to important positions so companies can save money, complacency with procedure when a captain has done the same route dozens of times and feels confident enough to "eyeball it" , uncomfotrable situations between the rest of the crew and the captain when they bring civilians on the bridge etc)
Jacob Rusli Bin has ,as of me writting this comment, still not been found.
Actually IIRC Internet Historian said in the follow-up video that he was given Rusli Bin's dox, but decided against publishing them.
I swear her voice sounds familiar
Most Cruises don't cost all that much a three night cruise for two in normal suites is roughly $550 and if you are one of the few going on cruises that can get the best of the best then it's 80k. But for the most part cruises are something people can think are for rich people when in reality it's mostly middle class people.
I heard a lot of older people just go on nonstop cruises instead of paying for expensive retirement homes. Food, medical, nice beds, laundry services. Doesn't sound like a bad idea.
Finally, the Costa Concordia episode, woooooo! I love this episode, don’t know why, don’t really care, I’m just here for the fun!
37:11 from what I recall some testing methods do provide false positives when testing hair samples that has a lot of hair products in it, most likely it detected his hair products and their method gave it as a false positive.
After watching this video over 10 times, I think I finally understand what the lady was trying to say in the confusing post-court interview:
“I’m so embarrassed I could die. First I had anxiety and depression from all this and everyone coming after me, and now this is the second time because I’m extremely embarrassed that people have now found out about something very personal that I’d tried to keep hidden for years.”
Friend of mine from Italy still has 2 different "vada a bordo cazzo," shirts from this whole thing. One has become his goto painting shirt.