His education is just rooted in hatred towards another race, even if the past things he said was true he talkin like every black person rn is a slave and are giving up on their community because they have feelings for someone else
“Tell me how the black community benefits from you having a white woman.” There’s a lot of issues that the black community has faced, and continues to face, that are much more important than dating outside a race. This shouldn’t even be a debate.🤷🏾
How is dating a white women helping the black community? U want to talk about self hate white media and trauma, rap music and gun violence, record labels and the judicial system sending out criminals to groom kids knowing they want be punished that bad. If u want to talk about black economy u can easily find how many black towns and area's was massacred while not getting land that was owed or reparations. I mean clearly if u can't get passed not being able to date them wtf else is there to talk about that same race doesn't stop sun down towns and the kkk and crooked police/judicial system. It's not even like we preaching some reverse kkk stuff we just saying love yourself and teach each other the importance of loving themselves which u as a person aren't obligated to follow u can do whatever u like but don't get mad when there's push back. U don't see the problem and other people do so it's just gonna be that.
I mean that isn't a good argument. You can say there will always be a more pertinent issue compared to any talking point but that doesn't negate the validity of said talking point/present matter being discussed. Homelessness crisis is huge but you can make the argument child trafficking and gun control are much more important. Does that mean you shouldn't discuss the homelessness crisis at all until child trafficking ends and gun control is fully passed? As humans we can talk about a multitude of issues with varying degrees of significance.
As a black woman my mom always told me to date whoever I want from any ethnic group…so long as they treat me well. You cut out a lot of good genuine partners if you date with racial “preferences” in mind…the black community should want healthy relationships for one another, and promoting dating within and only within promotes race over a healthy connection with someone. Go where your heart is content ❤
@@notting2640 Asian women do date Asian men though? Lol they get married to them too…and my point was who tf cares if someone dates outside their race, if they aren’t racist?
@thats4thebirds He mostly harps on black men who do it, not black women so your good. Congrats on your engagement 🍾 and also I see your a man of good taste with your severance review, gonna bookmark that vid to watch later
I'm in an interracial marriage. I don't elevate my wife for her skin color but because she's my wife and the mother of my children. I don't hate my own but I do love my family. People need to live their lives the best that they can and stop letting folks tell them what's good for them because they don't matter. Live and love who you want black, white, or whatever.
@@marcus4398 Really Marcus? Please, explain to me how only dating within the same race, and telling every African-American that they need to marry and have children with another of African descent, and bashing the ones that don't, isn't racist as fuck. This should be a good one.
@@NainheddoMEEK do u not understand that most got damn cultures marry within? That’s normal. It’s especially important for black ppl in America because we have to rebuild our foundation of family and generational wealth. Because of how far down our conditions are. So when a black man or woman has wealth it is important to our ppl and culture to keep that wealth so we can have something for ourselves just like everyone else does
That by itself is completely understandable. If a black man and Black woman love each other and want to build something together that is well within their right to do so, But what does that have to do with Black men who have white women as spouses? Why are they being dragged in the mud for simply loving each other? If a black man and a white woman come together, start a family, build something for that family, and give back to their community, that is generational wealth If a Black man and an Asian woman come together, start a family, build something for that family, then spread that wealth to their community, that is generational wealth. Fucking someone who looks just like you and getting some money together is not the thing that will uplift the black people. Beyonce and Jay-Z are doing that, and Will and Jada are doing that. The one and only thing that will uplift the black community is if we stop dividing ourselves over arbitrary differences like who we choose to love and what they look like, and start giving back to our communities, teach our children their worth and how to build for themselves, and how to lead the way. We don't need to huddle together like rats and run back to Africa to do that, we can do it here, and Now. Love and salutations, my nigga. @@marcus4398
I date interracially but wanting to date within your own race is in no way racist. In fact, MOST people date within their on race. Black pride isn’t racist due to the historical context of black people being seen as inferior. (And alot of ppl still see us as inferior) it’s about being proud of being black DESPITE other peoples negative feelings of our blackness. I’m not sure what race you are but if you want to have pride in your race or culture, I promise you know one is going to “cancel” you. I swear anything that promotes blackness is automatically “racist” to people like you
The great Bob Marley is a result of an interracial relationship (white dad/black mum) Can anyone honestly state that Bob Marley is not pro black? Who has highlighted struggle, spirituality and upliftment in the Black community, more than him?
It would have been so easy to dismantle this man's argument but the other guy in the room just couldn't think of the right direction to take in the moment. Just start with, "Why can't people just love who they want to" Imagine being so twisted into thinking you're in the right for being against mixed race couples? Imagine seriously telling a black man he's not black over preconceived notions about their person?
This man has a PHD and has basically devoted his entire life to this topic. It might not be as easy to argue as you think it would be. Especially in a room full of people with the cameras rolling
He could’ve easily told Umar that being with a Black Woman doesn’t guarantee a benefit to a community. It’s all about how that Black man thinks when it comes to community. That’s the argument.
My parents never cared if we dated a black person, it’s never even been a conversation, but we live in Europe, I understand it’s more of a touchy subject in the States. The only reason I understood why ‘pro black’ people were anti IR marriage is because if you want to build collective ‘black wealth’ as a community you should keep your resources _within_ your community. But I don’t think many Black people have a collectivist mindset like that, they’re gonna do what makes them happy, not what best for “the community”.
That perspective is still flawed though cause most black couples, let alone most people, won't develop that wealth because of self-inflicted stuff, but more importantly because how the economy works.
"But we lived in Europe" Let's not say racism is gone from Europe when the concept was created there and when the national soccer team loses, you know what happens 😂
I wish Dr. Umar would stop talking about “bunny hopping” and race mixing, it’s so obvious that he does it to get attention and it works everytime, Umar has some really good and thought provoking takes on racism when he’s not trying to be a meme and I wish he was known for that instead of “funny anti race mixing guy”
@@layton6202 It's just corny hearing him talk about these terms. He does it because he knows it gets the attention he needs. Because that is the only thing the black media only focuses on no matter how much we already spoke about moving onto other topics.
@@layton6202 Justify what? If you’re referring to my or anyones dating preferences I’m grown & don’t have to explain myself. Would you be ok with a vegan yelling at you for eating meat?
To me, the concept of having a racially exclusive love life out some weird sense of loyalty is idiotic. If you're attracted to someone, and you click with each other, who cares what race or ethnic group they are? In the 21st century, why should we deliberately limit our dating pool because of what happened decades or even centuries ago?
I’m at a point where I can care less about being pro black and just date whoever I date, I despise racism and whoever my lover happens to be, black, white, latina, Asian etc etc don’t matter. Love is Love No matter the color. It’s 2024, life’s too short to worry about what society thinks about who we date based on color.
50 percent of all interracial marriages are between white men and Asian. 65 percent of white men have preference for Asian women. The age of mono racial relationships are coming to an end.
1. Typically, the more successful blacks are more likely to date out than the less successful blacks. 2. Pro-blacks like Dr. Umar feel that the black community is entitled to the wealth created by successful blacks for some reason. 3. Pro-blacks like Umar feel more comfortable policing who black men date since it’s a “safe” topic. If pro-blacks like Umar criticized black culture he would get less support. If he criticized gang culture and violence, he would put his life at risk. 4. Pro-blacks like Umar gets money and support from black women and he knows a lot of them don’t like it. This is also why he rarely criticizes black women for anything, including dating other groups.
Dr. Umar has actually been to Africa. He’s basically saying what your African parents might say: that video games are a frivolous waste of time and a luxury when you live in a comfortable space like America. If you care about Africa, you would understand the necessity for Black Americans with skills to bring that talent to Africans that need it on the continent. You missed the point entirely.
@@getinloser666 So Dr.Umar is just a gringo who sees the whole continent of Africa as a bunch of useless poor people? There already talented Black people in Africa, yall got the gringo saviour complex but with a different colour skin, Africa is not in need of talent, its in need of a actual government that wont fuck their over like every single 3rd world country government does. Yall gotta realize, yall are AMERICAN, yall dont know shit about what it means to live in a 3rd world country, like the vast majority of countries in Africa are, Im Brazilian and im 100% our problem are the exact same as any african country, corrupt state, bullshit taxes, bullshit laws that make life harder and also being exploited by Europe and the US. Black americans and americans in general need to stay in America ok, unless you can bring your money to the countries in need, help the people and support the local bussiness, STAY IN AMERICA GRINGO SUPERMAN And also remember, just because you have the same skin colour as the Africans, doesnt mean you are one of them, they identify with their local culture, to them you are a American at the end of the day, you dont know their culture and language, thye are most likely going to see yall as they see the rest of the foreigners, people that come there to """help""" them just to massage their ego and feel like a good person, thats what all of yall gringos do in 3rd world countries.
I’m a 1st generation American with immigrant parents and the self-patronizing community thing is real crazy. I’m with a white woman, have been with same one for 10 years now, and my parents hated it at first, mostly for racist reasons but also due to the racism they’ve experienced. My parents are cool now, but the community and culture are slowly growing to the times. It is safe to say the culture is “dying” in terms of children growing up not learning the language or culture. I can see why people be acting that way.
@@M87theGreatreligion. A lot of black nationalists, at least in Philly where Umar comes from, are muslim (sort of) KKK are Protestant. Both hate Jews and Asians. Both are hate groups that use terror tactics.
@@cougarbee “Black nationalist” AKA hoteps or black extremist (that’s what they are actually called) don’t really hate Asians or POC? but they do hate Jews and whites
@8:28 Theoretically speaking, dating solely within race (assuming you're still having healthy not forced relationships) benefits the community as whole by raising children in a home where they see people that look like each other loving, existing and building together. In modern day society, it's normalized to have single parent households. Due to alotta trauma in our bloodlines and history, we're considered to be very divided to the point where we have to come up for a term when 2 black people are in love, Black Love. Theres no such thing as white love, rican love or asian love. I believe it's because they have a much more family oriented community AND history. Obviously theres an exception to every rule, however, none of those other races/ethnicities are plagued with the single parent/broken home stereotype the same way we are. Sure we may not directly inspire/affect those around us, but as the generations come and go, relationships within race will strengthen and thats how the community benefits from this in the long run
Umar is a meme more than anything and this argument is annoying. My preferences is black women but it’s not some I even really follow when dating. I don’t really put towards my preferences to the forefront really. I live in NYC a very colorful city no body got time to be moving off preferences when you’re always meeting different people .If I connect with a women I find beautiful. I’m never going to reject here over her race or religion.
@@layton6202 no it’s not it’s a fact. If Umar was speaking real truth he wouldn’t be as big as he is. Instead he’s on these podcasts and shows sounding like a fool. He’s apart of the circus and that’s why he’s allowed to be on these platforms.
@@layton6202he's a deeply unserious person and a fringe provocateur. He's mostly quoted and referenced because of how ridiculous most people find the things he says. Bro is a meme
Dr. Umar says one thing that makes sense and then says a whole bunch of nonsense which is one of the reasons why I can’t take him seriously. However he’s the first one I seen publicly challenge Black men for dating white women. And unfortunately it had to be him lol
“Challenge” black men for dating out. LMAO I wish he would come to me with that bullshi*. He’d get the same response I’d give a vegan yelling at me for eating a burger. Umar can sit his lying ass down.
7:02 I’ve always disagreed with that because whenever I hear people bring that argument up it comes off as turning black people into accessories even before I get into the ideology of it
That's facts. Its more important that someone has pro black beliefs. You can be black, marry a black person and be republican. Two black republicans being married does not benefit the race as a whole due to the anti-black beliefs conservatives usually holdm
Just on title alone all i can say, love is love. Pain is pain, love is pain, pain is love. We all gonna experience it in different ways with different people eventually. Am i yapping? Yea bro
Is it so hard to believe to some people out of billions of people on the earth some just found happiness in another women that’s not within their race.
Have you been to the USA lol?. We have every culture and race on the planet here and thats why we view Umar's take as dumb. The chance of your dating outside your race here is sky high and VERY normal. Theres no threat to the black race. Heck the majority of the marriages I know are mixed marriges
He’s doing good so far…who’s we cuz nones standing with your brother…if you wanna hate then hate but don’t act surprised when your hate still counts as viewership
If black people are the community, black couples would benefit the community just by existing. by them existing, joining, marrying, procreating, the community continues to exist. So I would say that we do "benefit" if we are pro black and put the communities needs first in all aspect when there are more black couples. It's also an extremely positive thing for children to see a couples rather than single parents. In a community where single parent households have done more harm than good...yeah seeing a black couple could do some good for some of us. I'm kinda playing devils advocate bc idgaf who dates who at the end of the day, but i could def see how it benefits.
@@bee3467 well for the sake of covering each thing you I do agree with you on the household thing in theory I think what you are conceptualizing as pro black eventually does more harm than good under the premise are only procreating with another under the main premise of being a beneficiary to one's community. A relationship isn't something to just have out of duty so to speak.
How does any relationship help the black community in the most important ways in America currently: materially and financially. How me looking at 2 people in love gonna help put food on my table for my family. This shit makes no sense, and why I can’t fuck with pro black topics that don’t involve helping black people on an economic level.
I read from someone earlier about some bs about black empowerment. How a white woman won’t contribute back into the black community and some other shit if they’re not in a relationship with a black person. Most people don’t even contribute to their own respective communities, let alone someone from an entirely different community (who would already have trouble being accepted by said community).
Accurate. You have black people who have 0 problem with interracial relationships taking offense to the argument that they can't pro-create or marry outside of their race and be pro-black. You can't. You look at Diana Ross's family and out of the many grandkids she has, only one is black and that grandkid comes from the one fully black child that Diana had (with Berry Gordy). The others are white passing who come from one of Diana's mixed children and their white spouse, which means that the white passing grandchildren will more than likely marry white or non-black. All it took was two generations for Diana Ross's bloodline to have the black flushed out. Her lineage in the next few generations could very likely be unquestionably white, which means that all of what she inherited as a black woman, coming up in the era that she came up in especially, will all go back to white people. That is not pro-black. Idk why that is hard for people to understand. No one is telling people to not date outside of their race, but you can't do so (especially with a white person) and be pro-black period.
Straight men doing time in prison f@ck other men because they are so desperate for a 'hole' . Let's see how all the ''pro black'' advocates remain ''pro black'' if you were stuck on a desert island for 1 month with 12 attractive women who weren't black.
Why exactly are we putting so much stock in what Umar has to say about mixed couples? Does he pay your bills? If not, then do whatever you want. If you want to date out, date out. Just make sure you're doing it for the right reasons. The world is a large place full of romantically compatiible people you haven't met yet, and there's a strong chance that some of them ARE NOT black, and that's OK. Also, being pro-black and dating outside your race are not mutually exclusive ideas, nor does being pro-black mean "anti-white". Being pro-black means allowing ALL black people to express their own individual blackness, which may include dating out.
Dr. Umar really out here invalidating my whole existence. I'm triracial (black, white, and asian; latino is not a race, but that's there, too) and my parents loved each other, so... *shrugs* But also, some people aren't actively looking for a relationship. Sometimes, you just fall into one. Let alone PURPOSELY dating within your own race. Anyway, I agree with Shawn Cee, and maybe it IS partially because I'm multiracial, but I find all races beautiful. I still stand with fellow black people as, despite being part white, I do NOT look it.
I like whatever likes me that looks good. If that person likes me just because of my skin… that’s disturbing. You can like my complexion but not only want my complexion.
Im Lebanese and married to a Jew, heard all of this shit and i LOATHE it. Peace and progress comes also with love! (Not really the diluting the race part, but most of it lol)
Although I don't agree with Umar on everything. He does have a point about slavery in africa. Africans who sold other Africans into slavery ended up being enslaved as well. They put their trust in the slave trade with the europeans. And the European got greedy and enslaved a lot of Africans even the ones who sold other Africans. They took the lands .. why do you think south Africa has a large population of Dutch descendants?
South Africa. Where's all that gusto for the North parts of Africa especially NorthWest Africa where Mali Empire was? How about most if not All of the Middle Eastern countries? Yall cherry pick which country you want to blame and ignore the ones that do warrent that conversation. All countries realistically benefited from slavery at one point or another short term or long. Read history, lot more complex that people like Dr. Umar make ot out to be.
His logic be mad flawed like I understand what umar be trying to say but he just end up sounding mad and racially insecure. It’s a lot of slightly older brothers like him that want us to be racist and supremacists to counter all the racism and supremacy 😂
In my experience people i be around who date outside they race tend to favor the other race they dating. It's never 50/50 one side usually likes the other culture more or grew up around more of that race and sometimes develops the same ideology.
@@Psychedlia98 Yea but that's kinda indicative to the point. There's alot of factors that play outside of race but in context of being pro black it's kinda hypocritical to be so pro something and do anti that.
@@ChrisComedy-rx9ge How is that indicative? You think that things such as shared values, material conditions, and social surroundings don't play a part? How is dating outside of the race anti-black? that sounds pretty simplistic and uneducated. I guess its because I grew up with different ethnic people and learned a variety of views, and I understand that being pro-black is more than just who you date, if you think dating outside of the race makes one anti black, I would say that is a very immature outlook of we as a people engage in society and help contribute. There are more ways to contribute than to date and make children, to me that sounds no different than when a white supremacist says it.
Omar’s logic doesn’t make sense because other people aren’t obsessed with race the way that he is. He saying, if you wanna date a black person, then go to places where Black people are, that would make sense if literally the number one thing on your list of trace that you’re looking for is black. Most people don’t date like that, most people are sensible, and they date people based off of having a shared connection having shared values, having shared interest so you’re gonna do that not just like scope out for people of a certain race that’s like a weird fetish fetish.
Other races are ABSOLUTELY obsessed with race, including this aspect of race. History will show you that time and time again, as well as interpersonal ideologies expressed by other races amongst one another.
@@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH Yeah im sure that's why Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Idi Amin Dada cared so much for their race that they had to kill a considerable amount of people just to show em that the race comes first.
@@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH Your username alone indicates that you are probably in his cult. But no, black women date out the least of any race, so that indicates other races are MORE open to dating another race than us. Black men are high though second highest behind hispanics. (Pew Research)
Eh, I'm a black woman and been with my white bf forever now lol. I personally do not care if anyone consider me as a traitor or someone who doesn't support the community. I believe that due to what I know and what I do for my ppl behind closed doors. So someone can consider me as such but their opinion doesn't matter to me cause I know who I am and what I give back and I will continue to do so cause I want better for us as a whole. With that said, I actually agree with Umar on some things and not with others.
isnt the end goal to have full and complete autonomy of yourself and of your race without the influence of an oppressor? not allowing yourself or your people to date outside your own race kinda defeats the purpose of complete autonomy like does it not? idk
listen if you take most of the things umar be saying as comedy, yall gon laugh a lot more lol. he be spitting sometimes but he def say hella backwards shit
A fair amount of black men and women are actually on the more conservative side of a lot of social issues that Umar talks about, so I'm not entirely surprised he still gets platformed.
@@waynewayne8419 Umar is a make believe school principal pretending to be related to Frederick Douglass. LMAO His small minded worldviews are on their last gasp. It’s fun watching him panic as gen z swirl & date same sex in greater & greater numbers. It’s over.
This kind of racionality Dr Umar have is quite dangerous, is the same thought process that Hitler had with Arians, the same thought process that led to what happened.
I do think though, regardless of culture in question, a cause is feeling undesired or outcasted within your own culture, and if someone else embrace you well, why would you pass that up? To make a culture that doesn’t embrace you happy when all they seem to care about is face value?
Romance is a function of focus and opportunity? Goddamn, that mufucka is a TERRIBLE night out. Romance is whatever if you looking whereever, it is what it is.
I bunny hop, beef patty hop(Jamaican/Trini), pupusa hop(Spanish) and coco butter and fried chicken hop(black). I've learn so much from those women's culture.😊
Modern Chattel Slavery in Mauritania - This country serves as a border between the Arab and Arab-Berber populations of North Africa and the people of West Africa
2:55 He didn't, by proxy of SELLING them they'd make money and avoid being disenfranchised and turned into slaves. Thay alone was a benefit thatd allow them to achieve the varying levels of culture and wealth they have currently simce they werent removed from it
It wasn’t. The discussion was based on buddy on the right saying that he contributes to the Black community and allegedly, even more so than Dr. Umar. The discussion is also about being pro-Black and if dating a White partner can still be considered under that same umbrella. Being with a Black partner as a Black person reinforces self-love and acceptance in far greater numbers than any other pairing. Why? Familiarity and a greater affinity for cultural compatibility. We are literal counterparts designed to be together due to our similar genetic pool. When you have that relationship it forces you to see your own as worthy; which is the direct opposite of how we’re told to feel about each other and explains the ideological and literal distance between us. If you’re dating a White woman, it would be a falsehood to claim you’re pro-Black because the obligations and interests of Black and White society are intrinsically opposed to each other. Moving out of one means focusing on the other and staying there. That’s how it works in America due to Europeans poisoning each others minds and committing horrific actions for absolutely no reason, then demonizing us when they can’t kill us openly in most of the country. White partners in Black pairings are notoriously known for not doing ANYTHING consistent worth noting for the Black community. This is what Umar is saying. That White woman more than likely feels no obligations to Black people outside of you or another potential partner. Want proof? Break up with that partner and check back later to see how much good they’ve done for Black people in your absence. The answer will be: not much.
@@getinloser666 1. What exactly is “pro-black” and who decided what’s pro-black or not? 2. Why is “self-love” determined by who I date and marry? Isn’t self-love determined within? 3. What cultural commonality does a black American have with a black Cuban or black Nigerian? Wouldn’t a black American have more cultural commonality with a white or Asian American than any non-American group? 4. Why must I marry someone of the same culture? What if a black person grew up in white culture and has more in common with them? By your logic, shouldn’t that person marry a white person? 5. How does having similar genes mean that you are designed to be together? 6. Why is “self-worth” determined by who I date and marry? Isn’t that determined within? 7. What are the interests are black and white society and how they opposed? Who determined the interests of white and black society? 8. You mention that the white partner doesn’t do anything for the black community but what does the average black person do for the black community? Why does the black community expect or need other people’s help to get ahead? Why can’t they develop their talents and work hard to get ahead? 9. I’m still confused of how being pro-black (whatever that means) is determined by who you date and marry. If Martin Luther King and Malcolm X had white wives and still accomplished everything they did, they wouldn’t be pro-black to you? Why?
@@James-pl5uc 1. Pro-Black means hyper-focusing on ONLY Black interest and progress. People heavily nuanced in intersectionality, race and history; like most Black revolutionaries, have set the stage for what pro-Black perceptions are. 2. Who you choose to date indicates tastes and interests. For example, when someone states they have a “preferred” racial group; yet that person isn’t a related member of said group, it reveals that you are presuming, with no real world cultural interaction, that EVERY member of said group carries these attributes you seek. That’s inherently a generalization and therefore, racist. In terms of self-love, theoretically you absolutely determine your self worth, however with the advancement of technology and the rise of social media, we obviously understand that’s not true. This becomes even more so, when you realize that not every group receives equal visibility in general. We live in a White world that’s constantly telling us that’s the only thing that’s attractive. 3. Surprisingly, yet not at all, there’s a lot of cultural solidarity with Black Americans and other Black groups globally because Black Americans set the tone for Blackness. We’re heavily borrowed from and that’s because those Nigerians and Black Cubans are African by blood. There’s some things you can’t shake no matter how many centuries of separation there are. If you want to be more direct in terms of culture relations; why would there be a direct correlation if you’ve already acknowledged they’re two separate cultures that originate from two different places? Of course if you live within the same space as other non-Black minorities, you will share commonalities. However, our similarities exist only on a very micro scale. That’s the exact reason whenever people talk about race relations and our differences, someone always ends up saying “but we’re all American.” It’s an attempt to avoid discussing our obvious differences on multiple levels, so people don’t feel like they’re “the oppressor”. It’s intentional blissful ignorance that will make the problem worse and boil over inevitably. 4. Who said you MUST do anything? None of us actually care who you date because the moment you do, you’re simply a non-factor. Why? Because odds are, you’re not dating that White person and living around more Black people than White. It’s not realistic unless you’re dating a White girl with a blaccent. Why? Because that’s how proximity works. We usually look for people who look like us by default. That’s literally everyone. When we date and include other people who don’t look like us in our proximal spaces, yet also exist within said space; we must compromise. I’ve seen this “compromise” look mostly like a Black person desperately trying to move to a White suburb. Have you ever seen a normal Black person with a soul in a suburb? No. If you we raised culturally White and only around White people, although incredibly unfortunate and very questionable, it would make sense that you’re a non-White individual who is interested in White partners. However, the issue is that usually isn’t the case as we commonly see. Most people’s reasoning for dating out (as seen online) is usually based in some bad experience that was extrapolated onto a broader group or feeling unaccepted by their on community. The dumbest argument i’ve seen was that “there are more Black women than men, so it’s fine” or “go where you’re appreciated”. If you have to literally get anti-lynching laws and the CROWN act passed, where exactly are you appreciated? 5. Two Africans make an African. Two White people make a White person. Two Asians make an Asian. How are you confused??? 6. You already asked that question and I already answered it. 7. Another horrible question that completely ignores the very existence of Chattel slavery, Jim Crowe laws and segregation. Black and White values have been opposing since Whites decided we were subhuman enough to be stolen from our home and used for labor, sex and a plaything. History determined the interests of Black and White society. You’re also forgetting that parents pass on ideology through generations. It doesn’t matter that slavery happened centuries ago, we’re still suffering from it and so is our global perception as a result. 8. The average Black person does more for the Black community and does then ANY White person would EVER feel obligated to; despite their “White guilt” and “empathy”. To pretend as if Black people, and even, Black celebrities do NOTHING for the Black community is anti-Black propaganda pushed by White media and perpetuated by other ethnic groups. In my lifetime, I’ve been helped selflessly by more Black people than White people. I grew up as an emotionally intelligent Black child in a wealthy suburb that THANKFULLY chose not to assimilate outside of who I am and that has benefited me far more than any alternative action. Onto the next terrible question. If Black people are already disadvantaged and HAVE tried tirelessly for generations to utilize every tool in their arsenal to gain upward mobility, yet still haven’t, is your claim that they just haven’t done ENOUGH? If that’s your angle, it would be better to assume you’re speaking from a malicious place because if those are your genuine thoughts given the vast amount of documented evidence; you’re insulting your own intelligence. 9. The more time you spend away from those that look like you; the less of an obligation you feel toward them. Even if they’re your own people. That’s how assimilation works. The Black experience in America is INCREDIBLY unique on so many levels that even when we look at the diaspora, we can’t always relate to other Black groups. In fact, for example you see it commonly in families that send their children off overseas to places like Europe or America for “higher education”. “Higher education” is what the White people get and that’s where these people send their kids. Then, when these children actually DO end up with some form of success; they don’t typically come back and end up with some White partner. This happens INCREDIBLY frequently; to what statistical level, i’m not sure. Malcolm X and MLK didn’t have White partners because they understood that progress for Black people isn’t an inclusive club that everybody gets into. That allowing foreigners to fight your cause would muddy the waters of focused advancement. It’s the same reason we “vet” “allies” today because our reasonable distrust towards any non-Black person who claims to be empathic. They understood that we have no allies and if we did; we wouldn’t have stayed enslaved for over four centuries and counting. The Civil Rights movement was a plea for visibility; not White acceptance. I love Black women because I want a Black family. Because I can see myself in that child. I can raise that child around other boys, girls and ma’s and pa’s who are strong and want to protect him. I can raise that child without fear that the community around him won’t understand him or his Humanity. It’s simple for me, so I don’t hop fences for a better life. I will build my future around my people because I love my people and that’s what I want. If I have all these feelings, then dating out isn’t an option. I’m not so starved for human interaction that i’m willing to compromise my values for a non-Black woman; it wouldn’t happen. -- You’re pretending as if ANYONE can force you to stay within the confines of what you know. If you want to date out, do it. But, don’t hop online after you’ve claimed “happiness” on the other side. Make peace with your choice and live your life.
@@getinloser666 1. Okay, but you haven’t established how a person’s choice of a spouse is relevant. If I am single and work on pro-black causes and everyone agree I work on pro-black causes and then one day, I marry a non-black woman and do the exact work I have been doing before, why would that one act cause me to be not pro-black? Why should I focus only on helping only blacks? If a white person is poor and struggling, i shouldn’t help him because he’s white? Isn’t that racist? If every group only focuses on the well being of their own group in America won’t that lead to interethnic conflict? 2. But what if I don’t have a “preferred racial group”?What if I just want to marry a woman who looks good and is nice to me regardless of race? I don’t see how the rise of social media means that your self-worth is not determined within. 3. Black groups around the world see black Americans as a separate group. It’s a uniquely American idea that skin color should be relevant. Blacks, whites and every other group outside of America divide themselves by tribe, nationality, religion and language. The idea that blacks around the world share a unique bond by skin color is nonsense that only black Americans believe. To black groups outside of America, you are just American. 4. A lot of what you wrote is unsubstantiated and sounds bad. How exactly would you know if there is any compromising? Why would it be unfortunate for a black person to live culturally and only around white people? Would it be bad to you if a white person lived culturally and only around blacks? A lot of this pro-black logic sounds racist and hyper obsessed with skin color, which is why I don’t associate with it. As for reasons for dating out, no one needs to provide any reason for who they date and people can date people for any nonsensical reason they want. A lot of black women date violent thugs because they have “swag” and an edge and hardly anyone criticizes them for it but then if a black man wants to non-black women, he has to justify his decision to a bunch of strangers? 5. You didn’t answer my question. Why do you need to marry someone of similar genes? You can be of any skin color and be an African or Asian; those adjectives are not the same as skin color. Despite being “pro-black”, ironically, you have a very Americanized view of the world. All Africans, Asians, whites etc. do not see themselves as the same group and they never have. Black Americans have far more in common with white Americans than any non-American group. Aside from similar skin color, you have hardly anything in common with non-American black group; you can talk to African immigrants and they will tell you the same thing. 7. No, I’m talking about 2024, not 60 plus years ago. How are black and white interests in 2024 opposed? There are very few whites who have the exact same view of race as whites of 100 years ago or even 50 years ago. While some notions may be passed down, it simply not true that entire ideologies of race get passed down from generation to generation. 8. The average black person doesn’t do anything for the black community. I never said that black celebrities don’t do anything for the black community. But if they don’t, then that’s fine. You are not obligated to help someone just because you have a similar skin complexion. Whether you have been helped more by blacks or whites depends on the environment you have been raised. More whites have helped me than blacks. As far as blacks and upward mobility, there are too many successful blacks in America to believe that blacks can’t succeed. 9. You didn’t answer my question so I will ask it again. If Martin Luther King and Malcolm X had white wives and still accomplished everything that they accomplished, they wouldn’t be pro-black to you? Anyway, you are too Americanized and the vast majority of blacks and people in general outside of America will not understand or agree with your mentality.
@@James-pl5uc You can re-read every single point that I’ve written out; this time with a little more nuance. I’m starting to wonder what your ethnic background is based on the way you’ve written some of your responses. The reason i’m bringing it up is because clarifying a detail like that, in a conversation relating to race, will reveal PLENTY. My responses to your initial questions remain the same and will remain the same. They are thought out based on what I have heavily studied regarding the perpetual use of current and archaic systems to disadvantage Black people as a collective, regardless of social class. These systems and the same group of people that run them have been in place for 400 years, yet get slightly altered to account for the intelligence of each upcoming generation; as well mitigate the obligatory nature of said system. What we need as Black people is emotional, mental and social independence from a predominantly White society that tells us “you aren’t enough, until you’re us”. Freedom once again from the non-stop subliminal brainwashing that Black people are forced to witness in everyday passing and the promotion of our own children to drown out the noise of self-hatred. If you couldn’t parse what being pro-Black means based on that simple paragraph; you’re either a fool or 🦝, however, I see no difference or color, in this regard. We are being harmed in a system that was not designed for us because we refuse to assimilate and we never will. So it’s time to move ahead and seek alternative options and spaces for my people adversely affected by a predatory Constitution. If you don’t see the effects of said system and have benefited greatly from the misfortune of others within it; i’m glad you share no relation to these spaces, but there are plenty of people that do. Overall, you seem incredibly hyper-focused on defining what being pro-Black entails rather than doing much thinking outside of that framework; so it would be much easier to say you don’t like Black people or their skin color and want to date White women/the rest of the planet. It’s much easier that way and much more honorable than cunning. I care about and plan my future with my lineage. I care about specifically having Black children because those Black children have a home and two ancestral lands that they are entitled to. That’s far more than what most people even begin to care about when having a baby. What do you prioritize? “Good hair”? I’m not really sure what being “Americanized” means accounting for the fact that we’ve already established that our entire conversation stems from the inequities of American society based on race and ethnicity. From that alone I know you’re hard-stuck on a pre-existing narrative and aren’t really interested in changing your opinion, but rather interacting with the opinions of others to fuel your feelings. Americans don’t have a “central” identity and never have. The ones that believe that are xenophobes overseas. My resolve is simply greater than yours, so you can alter nothing about me. Glean over my initial statement, take in the legitimate experiences of others and read until starts making sense. That’s my only advice. Thank you for the entertainment of conversation, but we simply have differing views and that should simply be accepted.
I’m married to a white British man and I’m African, Dr umar would faint. I was born in sub Sahara Africa and my family moved to a prominently white country because it’s better than living in north Africa. Being pro black in a white country is strange, black people in the west are entirely to oppressed with race.
Yet umars with a White Woman lmao so your all good. Plus White Chocolate is the sweetest especially when mixed with a true Black Queen. Do your thing girl
Me personally I will never understand racial preferences, in my eyes attraction isn’t a race thing, if you take care of yourself and have a good personality and a cute face who cares if you’re black, white, Hispanic or asian 🤷
Im not trusting anything Umar says until I see his porn history
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Whoa 😂
True and I rarely watch black women. Mostly Asians and white women.
😂😂😂😂😂
I’m so tired of people taking anything Dr Umar says seriously, bro is still living in the 1930s
Bunny Hopper
This comment screamz bunnyluva...😏😜
U sound hurt😂
No you just not understanding his level of education
His education is just rooted in hatred towards another race, even if the past things he said was true he talkin like every black person rn is a slave and are giving up on their community because they have feelings for someone else
Dr umar is a real life boondocks character, dude is the reverse uncle ruckus
they really needa renew that shit, and let it be on the season 2 timing
@@solomonpnq wouldn’t be the same without grandpa 😔
I mean if Boondocks does make a comeback there's so much material.
and i guess you're Uncle Ruckus?
@@solomonpnqit was getting renewed but it got canceled
“Tell me how the black community benefits from you having a white woman.”
There’s a lot of issues that the black community has faced, and continues to face, that are much more important than dating outside a race. This shouldn’t even be a debate.🤷🏾
THINK DEEPER PLEASE
@@tariqueboatswain7130what are you deeper thoughts on the matter?
How is dating a white women helping the black community? U want to talk about self hate white media and trauma, rap music and gun violence, record labels and the judicial system sending out criminals to groom kids knowing they want be punished that bad.
If u want to talk about black economy u can easily find how many black towns and area's was massacred while not getting land that was owed or reparations.
I mean clearly if u can't get passed not being able to date them wtf else is there to talk about that same race doesn't stop sun down towns and the kkk and crooked police/judicial system.
It's not even like we preaching some reverse kkk stuff we just saying love yourself and teach each other the importance of loving themselves which u as a person aren't obligated to follow u can do whatever u like but don't get mad when there's push back.
U don't see the problem and other people do so it's just gonna be that.
And dating outside doesn’t help lol that also affects us
I mean that isn't a good argument. You can say there will always be a more pertinent issue compared to any talking point but that doesn't negate the validity of said talking point/present matter being discussed. Homelessness crisis is huge but you can make the argument child trafficking and gun control are much more important. Does that mean you shouldn't discuss the homelessness crisis at all until child trafficking ends and gun control is fully passed? As humans we can talk about a multitude of issues with varying degrees of significance.
Umar is the doctor of Yapville.
As a black woman my mom always told me to date whoever I want from any ethnic group…so long as they treat me well. You cut out a lot of good genuine partners if you date with racial “preferences” in mind…the black community should want healthy relationships for one another, and promoting dating within and only within promotes race over a healthy connection with someone. Go where your heart is content ❤
Tell that to Asian women 😂 they seem to date everyone except their own men 😂😂😂
@@notting2640 Asian women do date Asian men though? Lol they get married to them too…and my point was who tf cares if someone dates outside their race, if they aren’t racist?
Divestor.
@@notting2640 Bro Asian men are not masculine at all.
@@bigq2696 What does that even mean anymore? lol
Engaged to a black woman and still can’t believe how much shit we catch in 2023.
Ignore all that noise brother, happy for you keep on pushing
@thats4thebirds He mostly harps on black men who do it, not black women so your good. Congrats on your engagement 🍾 and also I see your a man of good taste with your severance review, gonna bookmark that vid to watch later
Stick with your kind🤷🏾♂️
Same here.
When we walk and hold hands... We got looks.
Both from black and white.
That's fucking weird
who cares tho. :) dont worry about clowns
I'm in an interracial marriage. I don't elevate my wife for her skin color but because she's my wife and the mother of my children. I don't hate my own but I do love my family. People need to live their lives the best that they can and stop letting folks tell them what's good for them because they don't matter. Live and love who you want black, white, or whatever.
Shawn setting the video 2x speed is crazy 😂
It’s so funny😭😭
I put this video on 2x speed so the umar vid is at 4x speed for me lol
I mean this is just blanant racism wrapped in black pride, but he's funny and black so I guess it's okay?
No the hell it’s not lol
@@marcus4398 Really Marcus? Please, explain to me how only dating within the same race, and telling every African-American that they need to marry and have children with another of African descent, and bashing the ones that don't, isn't racist as fuck. This should be a good one.
@@NainheddoMEEK do u not understand that most got damn cultures marry within? That’s normal. It’s especially important for black ppl in America because we have to rebuild our foundation of family and generational wealth. Because of how far down our conditions are. So when a black man or woman has wealth it is important to our ppl and culture to keep that wealth so we can have something for ourselves just like everyone else does
That by itself is completely understandable. If a black man and Black woman love each other and want to build something together that is well within their right to do so, But what does that have to do with Black men who have white women as spouses? Why are they being dragged in the mud for simply loving each other? If a black man and a white woman come together, start a family, build something for that family, and give back to their community, that is generational wealth
If a Black man and an Asian woman come together, start a family, build something for that family, then spread that wealth to their community, that is generational wealth. Fucking someone who looks just like you and getting some money together is not the thing that will uplift the black people. Beyonce and Jay-Z are doing that, and Will and Jada are doing that. The one and only thing that will uplift the black community is if we stop dividing ourselves over arbitrary differences like who we choose to love and what they look like, and start giving back to our communities, teach our children their worth and how to build for themselves, and how to lead the way. We don't need to huddle together like rats and run back to Africa to do that, we can do it here, and Now. Love and salutations, my nigga. @@marcus4398
I date interracially but wanting to date within your own race is in no way racist.
In fact, MOST people date within their on race. Black pride isn’t racist due to the historical context of black people being seen as inferior. (And alot of ppl still see us as inferior) it’s about being proud of being black DESPITE other peoples negative feelings of our blackness.
I’m not sure what race you are but if you want to have pride in your race or culture, I promise you know one is going to “cancel” you.
I swear anything that promotes blackness is automatically “racist” to people like you
Ngl there is nothing pro black about taking 10 years of donations for a school and never opening it
Hella underrated comment
The great Bob Marley is a result of an interracial relationship (white dad/black mum)
Can anyone honestly state that Bob Marley is not pro black? Who has highlighted struggle, spirituality and upliftment in the Black community, more than him?
That man was also a rampant cheater…his politics were not perfect lol so this argument falls flat
Uhh there are quite a few people who are more pro black than...bob marley
Dr. Umar explained in the video that Bob Marley is an ally.
His son walks in his father's steps and now supports Israel. He made good music move on
@@jon-cx7jqwhere did he say Bob Marley was the most pro black mf ever?
It would have been so easy to dismantle this man's argument but the other guy in the room just couldn't think of the right direction to take in the moment.
Just start with, "Why can't people just love who they want to"
Imagine being so twisted into thinking you're in the right for being against mixed race couples?
Imagine seriously telling a black man he's not black over preconceived notions about their person?
Honestly he should’ve made Umar give him a definition of “Pro-Black” and debated from a purely logical standpoint, but he got too emotional.
This man has a PHD and has basically devoted his entire life to this topic. It might not be as easy to argue as you think it would be. Especially in a room full of people with the cameras rolling
You'd be surprised how quickly Umar would counter that.
@@0Mynameisearl0 Later on in the video Shawn essentially gave my argument, that liberation should mean black people should do whatever they want
He could’ve easily told Umar that being with a Black Woman doesn’t guarantee a benefit to a community.
It’s all about how that Black man thinks when it comes to community. That’s the argument.
Date whoever yall want man fuck the haters.
Exactly! So long as she's 'clean' that's all that matters.
Naw blacks need to grow their population more not dilute themselves
My parents never cared if we dated a black person, it’s never even been a conversation, but we live in Europe, I understand it’s more of a touchy subject in the States.
The only reason I understood why ‘pro black’ people were anti IR marriage is because if you want to build collective ‘black wealth’ as a community you should keep your resources _within_ your community. But I don’t think many Black people have a collectivist mindset like that, they’re gonna do what makes them happy, not what best for “the community”.
That perspective is still flawed though cause most black couples, let alone most people, won't develop that wealth because of self-inflicted stuff, but more importantly because how the economy works.
Didnt black ppl try that once only to have white ppl burn the town down or something
Black people talking about black "wealth" then waste $200 on a first date dinner in a restaurant owned by a white man.
"But we lived in Europe"
Let's not say racism is gone from Europe when the concept was created there and when the national soccer team loses, you know what happens 😂
Hear y’all go acting like Europeans are so “above” these topics.
Damn, why the gamers catch a stray?!
I wish Dr. Umar would stop talking about “bunny hopping” and race mixing, it’s so obvious that he does it to get attention and it works everytime, Umar has some really good and thought provoking takes on racism when he’s not trying to be a meme and I wish he was known for that instead of “funny anti race mixing guy”
Seems like you disagree and have taking a liking to snow bunnies or in your case you might be a weeb
@@layton6202 It's just corny hearing him talk about these terms. He does it because he knows it gets the attention he needs. Because that is the only thing the black media only focuses on no matter how much we already spoke about moving onto other topics.
@@rosietales move on to what…everything starts from the home and somehow the home now has white folks in it.
Does it offend you and your bunny?
I can’t imagine having to justify my dating choices to anyone let alone to Dr Umar.
Right. A dude who made two fatherless households & had bench warrants for child support.
@@adavis3215relax bunny hopper.
@@waynewayne8419 ruclips.net/video/YDgTRY9vGCM/видео.htmlsi=eFlMrsYD3MXxsijY
Justify it to me then
@@layton6202 Justify what? If you’re referring to my or anyones dating preferences I’m grown & don’t have to explain myself. Would you be ok with a vegan yelling at you for eating meat?
To me, the concept of having a racially exclusive love life out some weird sense of loyalty is idiotic. If you're attracted to someone, and you click with each other, who cares what race or ethnic group they are? In the 21st century, why should we deliberately limit our dating pool because of what happened decades or even centuries ago?
aint gonna lie Dr. Umar sometimes be talking real shit but at other times man imma need him to just shut up
I feel the same way sometimes all I can do is laugh cause who in their right mind would ever try and go back and forth with this Man.
He made sone good points but when he started talking about cassie suing diddy as a money grab and a way to bring a black man down he lost it.
fr 💀
He’s been caught in so many lies it’s not funny. He’s full of shit.
He says some smart shit every once in a while but when it comes to interracial shit he’s a absolute nut.
I’m at a point where I can care less about being pro black and just date whoever I date, I despise racism and whoever my lover happens to be, black, white, latina, Asian etc etc don’t matter. Love is Love No matter the color. It’s 2024, life’s too short to worry about what society thinks about who we date based on color.
Racism is never going away and interracial dating never works 💯
@@Jay-jb2vr Not true at all lol stop being a self imposed victim!
I'm from Cameroon. Bring your video games and J's and what not. I don't really care about "your history", just respect people.
Bro why are you acting as if we don’t already have both things in Africa? 😂😂
@@Willow-cw9te Nah. Let them believe that's what makes them special.
approaching women in such terms and in a searching way is just not the way imo. I agree with Shawn, sometimes you effortlessly click with someone.
Exactly that’s how some relationships happen
Why put such a focus on interracial dating when all races date their own majority of the time?
It gets engagement on socials 😅
50 percent of all interracial marriages are between white men and Asian. 65 percent of white men have preference for Asian women. The age of mono racial relationships are coming to an end.
Exactly
That may be true but he's making it out to be a bigger deal than it is.
1. Typically, the more successful blacks are more likely to date out than the less successful blacks.
2. Pro-blacks like Dr. Umar feel that the black community is entitled to the wealth created by successful blacks for some reason.
3. Pro-blacks like Umar feel more comfortable policing who black men date since it’s a “safe” topic. If pro-blacks like Umar criticized black culture he would get less support. If he criticized gang culture and violence, he would put his life at risk.
4. Pro-blacks like Umar gets money and support from black women and he knows a lot of them don’t like it. This is also why he rarely criticizes black women for anything, including dating other groups.
Umar think we don't have video games and jordans in Africa 😂
People said that Michael Jordan isn’t known outside of America
Dr. Umar has actually been to Africa.
He’s basically saying what your African parents might say: that video games are a frivolous waste of time and a luxury when you live in a comfortable space like America.
If you care about Africa, you would understand the necessity for Black Americans with skills to bring that talent to Africans that need it on the continent.
You missed the point entirely.
@@getinloser666 So Dr.Umar is just a gringo who sees the whole continent of Africa as a bunch of useless poor people? There already talented Black people in Africa, yall got the gringo saviour complex but with a different colour skin, Africa is not in need of talent, its in need of a actual government that wont fuck their over like every single 3rd world country government does.
Yall gotta realize, yall are AMERICAN, yall dont know shit about what it means to live in a 3rd world country, like the vast majority of countries in Africa are, Im Brazilian and im 100% our problem are the exact same as any african country, corrupt state, bullshit taxes, bullshit laws that make life harder and also being exploited by Europe and the US.
Black americans and americans in general need to stay in America ok, unless you can bring your money to the countries in need, help the people and support the local bussiness, STAY IN AMERICA GRINGO SUPERMAN
And also remember, just because you have the same skin colour as the Africans, doesnt mean you are one of them, they identify with their local culture, to them you are a American at the end of the day, you dont know their culture and language, thye are most likely going to see yall as they see the rest of the foreigners, people that come there to """help""" them just to massage their ego and feel like a good person, thats what all of yall gringos do in 3rd world countries.
@@MonkeyDJaden75
What?
That’s very untrue lmao
I think they can and it’s okay but you gotta have respect for each other as people and also the culture
facts..
Dawg just date who you wanna date
I’m a 1st generation American with immigrant parents and the self-patronizing community thing is real crazy. I’m with a white woman, have been with same one for 10 years now, and my parents hated it at first, mostly for racist reasons but also due to the racism they’ve experienced. My parents are cool now, but the community and culture are slowly growing to the times. It is safe to say the culture is “dying” in terms of children growing up not learning the language or culture. I can see why people be acting that way.
Dr.Umar and the KKK have the same opinion on interracial dating 😬
Outside of color can you name the most important difference between the black nationalism and white nationalism?
@@M87theGreattheir ain't one, it's the same ideology.
@@YourLocalRussianNegro wealth.
@@M87theGreatreligion. A lot of black nationalists, at least in Philly where Umar comes from, are muslim (sort of) KKK are Protestant. Both hate Jews and Asians. Both are hate groups that use terror tactics.
@@cougarbee
“Black nationalist” AKA hoteps or black extremist (that’s what they are actually called) don’t really hate Asians or POC? but they do hate Jews and whites
"Is he saying I can only play black video games??" 😂 jeezus
@8:28
Theoretically speaking, dating solely within race (assuming you're still having healthy not forced relationships) benefits the community as whole by raising children in a home where they see people that look like each other loving, existing and building together. In modern day society, it's normalized to have single parent households. Due to alotta trauma in our bloodlines and history, we're considered to be very divided to the point where we have to come up for a term when 2 black people are in love, Black Love. Theres no such thing as white love, rican love or asian love. I believe it's because they have a much more family oriented community AND history. Obviously theres an exception to every rule, however, none of those other races/ethnicities are plagued with the single parent/broken home stereotype the same way we are. Sure we may not directly inspire/affect those around us, but as the generations come and go, relationships within race will strengthen and thats how the community benefits from this in the long run
He has legit Alex Jones energy
He does
Umar is a meme more than anything and this argument is annoying. My preferences is black women but it’s not some I even really follow when dating. I don’t really put towards my preferences to the forefront really. I live in NYC a very colorful city no body got time to be moving off preferences when you’re always meeting different people .If I connect with a women I find beautiful. I’m never going to reject here over her race or religion.
Calling him a meme is disingenuous and only makes you feel better about disagreeing with him.
Hes so obsessed woth white women hes fetished it. He acts like some Temple U. cheerleader insulted him as a kid growing up in North Philly.
@@layton6202 no it’s not it’s a fact. If Umar was speaking real truth he wouldn’t be as big as he is. Instead he’s on these podcasts and shows sounding like a fool. He’s apart of the circus and that’s why he’s allowed to be on these platforms.
@@layton6202 Facts 😂😂😂
@@layton6202he's a deeply unserious person and a fringe provocateur. He's mostly quoted and referenced because of how ridiculous most people find the things he says.
Bro is a meme
Dr. Umar says one thing that makes sense and then says a whole bunch of nonsense which is one of the reasons why I can’t take him seriously.
However he’s the first one I seen publicly challenge Black men for dating white women. And unfortunately it had to be him lol
“Challenge” black men for dating out. LMAO I wish he would come to me with that bullshi*. He’d get the same response I’d give a vegan yelling at me for eating a burger. Umar can sit his lying ass down.
Who else would it be cuz these liberals don’t care in fact they encourage it
I honestly don’t know why we care so much about the average black man dating a white woman.
7:02 I’ve always disagreed with that because whenever I hear people bring that argument up it comes off as turning black people into accessories even before I get into the ideology of it
That's facts. Its more important that someone has pro black beliefs. You can be black, marry a black person and be republican. Two black republicans being married does not benefit the race as a whole due to the anti-black beliefs conservatives usually holdm
“You Bunnyhopping”.😭🤦🏾♂️
Just on title alone all i can say, love is love. Pain is pain, love is pain, pain is love. We all gonna experience it in different ways with different people eventually. Am i yapping? Yea bro
bro is a poet
Roses are red violets are blue head ass 😂
true. stay open, stay vulnerable
Is it so hard to believe to some people out of billions of people on the earth some just found happiness in another women that’s not within their race.
Have you been to the USA lol?. We have every culture and race on the planet here and thats why we view Umar's take as dumb. The chance of your dating outside your race here is sky high and VERY normal. Theres no threat to the black race. Heck the majority of the marriages I know are mixed marriges
@@FlightX101 Ive lived in the US my whole life I know its a melting pot.
@@FlightX101 it’s actually not at all. Most areas in America is mostly the same people. Literally unless you live in big city.
the thing about Umar is that he has 2 good points for every 40 insane things he says so for some reason we gave him a platform for that
He’s doing good so far…who’s we cuz nones standing with your brother…if you wanna hate then hate but don’t act surprised when your hate still counts as viewership
I know the Umar memes from that interview is coming soon
That jonathan majors situation answers that question for me 😭
Don't cheat yourself out of life staying in one lane. Unless you like that. Life is way too hard and lonely.
If black people are the community, black couples would benefit the community just by existing. by them existing, joining, marrying, procreating, the community continues to exist. So I would say that we do "benefit" if we are pro black and put the communities needs first in all aspect when there are more black couples. It's also an extremely positive thing for children to see a couples rather than single parents. In a community where single parent households have done more harm than good...yeah seeing a black couple could do some good for some of us. I'm kinda playing devils advocate bc idgaf who dates who at the end of the day, but i could def see how it benefits.
Yep that's why I don't call myself "pro black" .
@@mornotafi Atleast youre honest
Wouldn't any stable couple be a advantage to offset single parent households?
@@tcwentertainment If that was the only issue we were talking about, sure. But that ignores literally everything else I said.
@@bee3467 well for the sake of covering each thing you I do agree with you on the household thing in theory I think what you are conceptualizing as pro black eventually does more harm than good under the premise are only procreating with another under the main premise of being a beneficiary to one's community. A relationship isn't something to just have out of duty so to speak.
All is well until she chases you down Manhattan streets😂😂
That part 😂
How does any relationship help the black community in the most important ways in America currently: materially and financially. How me looking at 2 people in love gonna help put food on my table for my family. This shit makes no sense, and why I can’t fuck with pro black topics that don’t involve helping black people on an economic level.
I read from someone earlier about some bs about black empowerment. How a white woman won’t contribute back into the black community and some other shit if they’re not in a relationship with a black person. Most people don’t even contribute to their own respective communities, let alone someone from an entirely different community (who would already have trouble being accepted by said community).
In some topics, Dr. Umar cooks. Sometimes he’s a yapper. Duality of man
absolutely you're not pro black if you date outside of the race.
but I will say, not every black person has to be pro black.
I agree with both things you said.
If you’re not Pro then u are Anti.
Accurate. You have black people who have 0 problem with interracial relationships taking offense to the argument that they can't pro-create or marry outside of their race and be pro-black. You can't. You look at Diana Ross's family and out of the many grandkids she has, only one is black and that grandkid comes from the one fully black child that Diana had (with Berry Gordy). The others are white passing who come from one of Diana's mixed children and their white spouse, which means that the white passing grandchildren will more than likely marry white or non-black.
All it took was two generations for Diana Ross's bloodline to have the black flushed out. Her lineage in the next few generations could very likely be unquestionably white, which means that all of what she inherited as a black woman, coming up in the era that she came up in especially, will all go back to white people. That is not pro-black. Idk why that is hard for people to understand. No one is telling people to not date outside of their race, but you can't do so (especially with a white person) and be pro-black period.
Pro Black is when you help the community, this stupidity is just racism
Straight men doing time in prison f@ck other men because they are so desperate for a 'hole' . Let's see how all the ''pro black'' advocates remain ''pro black'' if you were stuck on a desert island for 1 month with 12 attractive women who weren't black.
Why exactly are we putting so much stock in what Umar has to say about mixed couples? Does he pay your bills? If not, then do whatever you want. If you want to date out, date out. Just make sure you're doing it for the right reasons. The world is a large place full of romantically compatiible people you haven't met yet, and there's a strong chance that some of them ARE NOT black, and that's OK.
Also, being pro-black and dating outside your race are not mutually exclusive ideas, nor does being pro-black mean "anti-white". Being pro-black means allowing ALL black people to express their own individual blackness, which may include dating out.
The way they look at him during the start when he starts going off… man if someone looked at me like that I’d tuck tail for the rest of my life
Dr. Umar really out here invalidating my whole existence. I'm triracial (black, white, and asian; latino is not a race, but that's there, too) and my parents loved each other, so... *shrugs*
But also, some people aren't actively looking for a relationship. Sometimes, you just fall into one. Let alone PURPOSELY dating within your own race.
Anyway, I agree with Shawn Cee, and maybe it IS partially because I'm multiracial, but I find all races beautiful. I still stand with fellow black people as, despite being part white, I do NOT look it.
I would consider self harm every day if I had even half as much hate in my heart as Dr. Umar does.
So no one was gonna tell this guy you're a grown man giving another grown man relationship advice he didn't ask for 💀
I like whatever likes me that looks good. If that person likes me just because of my skin… that’s disturbing. You can like my complexion but not only want my complexion.
Im Lebanese and married to a Jew, heard all of this shit and i LOATHE it. Peace and progress comes also with love!
(Not really the diluting the race part, but most of it lol)
I think this dude who puts other black people down but then says they aren’t pro black because “they date white women” is CRAZY 😂
Although I don't agree with Umar on everything. He does have a point about slavery in africa. Africans who sold other Africans into slavery ended up being enslaved as well. They put their trust in the slave trade with the europeans. And the European got greedy and enslaved a lot of Africans even the ones who sold other Africans. They took the lands .. why do you think south Africa has a large population of Dutch descendants?
South Africa. Where's all that gusto for the North parts of Africa especially NorthWest Africa where Mali Empire was? How about most if not All of the Middle Eastern countries? Yall cherry pick which country you want to blame and ignore the ones that do warrent that conversation. All countries realistically benefited from slavery at one point or another short term or long. Read history, lot more complex that people like Dr. Umar make ot out to be.
His logic be mad flawed like I understand what umar be trying to say but he just end up sounding mad and racially insecure. It’s a lot of slightly older brothers like him that want us to be racist and supremacists to counter all the racism and supremacy 😂
Exactly we can't solve the issues of racism by practicing reverse racism.
@@bigq2696yah we can
Love who you love. But still have love for your own. Stop the nonsense
In my experience people i be around who date outside they race tend to favor the other race they dating.
It's never 50/50 one side usually likes the other culture more or grew up around more of that race and sometimes develops the same ideology.
True!
I don't think that's objectively true, there so many factors you have to consider when race is just one out of many.
@@Psychedlia98 Yea but that's kinda indicative to the point.
There's alot of factors that play outside of race but in context of being pro black it's kinda hypocritical to be so pro something and do anti that.
@@ChrisComedy-rx9ge How is that indicative? You think that things such as shared values, material conditions, and social surroundings don't play a part? How is dating outside of the race anti-black? that sounds pretty simplistic and uneducated. I guess its because I grew up with different ethnic people and learned a variety of views, and I understand that being pro-black is more than just who you date, if you think dating outside of the race makes one anti black, I would say that is a very immature outlook of we as a people engage in society and help contribute. There are more ways to contribute than to date and make children, to me that sounds no different than when a white supremacist says it.
@@ChrisComedy-rx9ge correction, not immature outlook, but a very narrow minded outlook.
You can date whoever you want, just dont get butthurt with what comes with it. If you didnt want judgement, youd stick with your own.
Too late it’s over with we know who wins in the end for it is written. Light Side is Undefeated. Praise God.
Facts
Your own kind isn't abstaining of judgement though
Omar’s logic doesn’t make sense because other people aren’t obsessed with race the way that he is. He saying, if you wanna date a black person, then go to places where Black people are, that would make sense if literally the number one thing on your list of trace that you’re looking for is black. Most people don’t date like that, most people are sensible, and they date people based off of having a shared connection having shared values, having shared interest so you’re gonna do that not just like scope out for people of a certain race that’s like a weird fetish fetish.
Bro Umar is out here lying like a mf.
@@bigq2696how is he lying?
Other races are ABSOLUTELY obsessed with race, including this aspect of race.
History will show you that time and time again, as well as interpersonal ideologies expressed by other races amongst one another.
@@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH Yeah im sure that's why Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Idi Amin Dada cared so much for their race that they had to kill a considerable amount of people just to show em that the race comes first.
@@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH Your username alone indicates that you are probably in his cult. But no, black women date out the least of any race, so that indicates other races are MORE open to dating another race than us. Black men are high though second highest behind hispanics. (Pew Research)
Umar went to college and still came out dumb wtf... 😂😂😂
His biggest mistake was trying to justify himself to this fool. Doctor or not, he has no business telling anybody who they should fall in love with.
Eh, I'm a black woman and been with my white bf forever now lol. I personally do not care if anyone consider me as a traitor or someone who doesn't support the community. I believe that due to what I know and what I do for my ppl behind closed doors. So someone can consider me as such but their opinion doesn't matter to me cause I know who I am and what I give back and I will continue to do so cause I want better for us as a whole.
With that said, I actually agree with Umar on some things and not with others.
Clearly you aren’t being honest with yourself if you think others opinions on your white household doesn’t bother you.
I guarantee you do nothing for the community
@@goddessyamato5238 And I guarantee you, that your opinion don't mean shit to me🤭❤️
@@Naistov still doesn’t take away anything I said
@@goddessyamato5238 Soooo, you lack basic common sense? Gotcha👍🏽
Andrew Tate walked so Umar could flop.
Umar been around wayyy longer than Tate Lmao
Kevin Samuel did it before any of these immigrants
isnt the end goal to have full and complete autonomy of yourself and of your race without the influence of an oppressor? not allowing yourself or your people to date outside your own race kinda defeats the purpose of complete autonomy like does it not? idk
listen if you take most of the things umar be saying as comedy, yall gon laugh a lot more lol. he be spitting sometimes but he def say hella backwards shit
I'm gonna do whatever tf i want to.
Ngl I thought our community would leave Dr Umar in 2018 and just see him as a meme moving forward. But unfortunately not
A fair amount of black men and women are actually on the more conservative side of a lot of social issues that Umar talks about, so I'm not entirely surprised he still gets platformed.
He’s a lying grifter & keeps getting a pass. I guess we’re entertaining his nonsense until the wheels inevitably fall off.
Relax bunny hopper
@@waynewayne8419 Umar is a make believe school principal pretending to be related to Frederick Douglass. LMAO His small minded worldviews are on their last gasp. It’s fun watching him panic as gen z swirl & date same sex in greater & greater numbers. It’s over.
@@adavis3215why are you hating?…seriously?
This kind of racionality Dr Umar have is quite dangerous, is the same thought process that Hitler had with Arians, the same thought process that led to what happened.
dating outside your race shows you have a sense of equality
I do think though, regardless of culture in question, a cause is feeling undesired or outcasted within your own culture, and if someone else embrace you well, why would you pass that up? To make a culture that doesn’t embrace you happy when all they seem to care about is face value?
I wonder if Umar feels like Dave Chappelle isn't Pro-Black
There’s nothing wrong with “dirtying up the white snow” 🤣
Romance is a function of focus and opportunity? Goddamn, that mufucka is a TERRIBLE night out.
Romance is whatever if you looking whereever, it is what it is.
😂
Umar want ALL the smoke 😂
This conversation is incredibly childish
Identity crisis is a real thing.
11:35 I guess but like if you love your partner enough you're typically more willing to help them grow
Seems you can't comprehend
I bunny hop, beef patty hop(Jamaican/Trini), pupusa hop(Spanish) and coco butter and fried chicken hop(black). I've learn so much from those women's culture.😊
Date whoever you want just let it be true love. If it’s about money, self hatred or some sick fetish god is not going to accept that. That’s evil.
Modern Chattel Slavery in Mauritania - This country serves as a border between the Arab and Arab-Berber populations of North Africa and the people of West Africa
He is moving the goal post. Just because someone or a group didn't or doesn't benefit from something, doesn't mean they didn't participate.
13:25-14:35 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
He was spittin 🔥
For commonality sake....it's the black women for me...especially for a mate
ShawnCeeLIVE, even though I don’t agree with your ideology, I do like that you did intelligently breakdown your thought process.
L take L mindset the black community would be better without u
Bruh I’ve dated multiple races. Never intentionally dated based off race. Umar wylin
However a lot of ppl do intentionally date based off race and that’s who Dr Umar is being loud about lol.
I'm too pale to have an opinion that oughta matter here.
My black girlfriend on the other hand...👩🏾❤️💋👨🏻
He’s a GRIFTER
This shit is fucking insane, Umar talks about this far more than police brutality, redlining or anything that actually fucking matters
2:55 He didn't, by proxy of SELLING them they'd make money and avoid being disenfranchised and turned into slaves. Thay alone was a benefit thatd allow them to achieve the varying levels of culture and wealth they have currently simce they werent removed from it
Jesus Christ what a start to a video💀
That game list felt personal and i cant agree more.... id atleast have a business and a few hundred grand 😂
My mom is Scottish, German, Swedish, and my dad is Columbian, Puerto Rican, and African.
“ How does any relationship benefit you in the Black community?” That was a good point
It wasn’t.
The discussion was based on buddy on the right saying that he contributes to the Black community and allegedly, even more so than Dr. Umar.
The discussion is also about being pro-Black and if dating a White partner can still be considered under that same umbrella.
Being with a Black partner as a Black person reinforces self-love and acceptance in far greater numbers than any other pairing.
Why?
Familiarity and a greater affinity for cultural compatibility. We are literal counterparts designed to be together due to our similar genetic pool.
When you have that relationship it forces you to see your own as worthy; which is the direct opposite of how we’re told to feel about each other and explains the ideological and literal distance between us.
If you’re dating a White woman, it would be a falsehood to claim you’re pro-Black because the obligations and interests of Black and White society are intrinsically opposed to each other.
Moving out of one means focusing on the other and staying there.
That’s how it works in America due to Europeans poisoning each others minds and committing horrific actions for absolutely no reason, then demonizing us when they can’t kill us openly in most of the country.
White partners in Black pairings are notoriously known for not doing ANYTHING consistent worth noting for the Black community. This is what Umar is saying.
That White woman more than likely feels no obligations to Black people outside of you or another potential partner.
Want proof?
Break up with that partner and check back later to see how much good they’ve done for Black people in your absence.
The answer will be: not much.
@@getinloser666 1. What exactly is “pro-black” and who decided what’s pro-black or not?
2. Why is “self-love” determined by who I date and marry? Isn’t self-love determined within?
3. What cultural commonality does a black American have with a black Cuban or black Nigerian? Wouldn’t a black American have more cultural commonality with a white or Asian American than any non-American group?
4. Why must I marry someone of the same culture? What if a black person grew up in white culture and has more in common with them? By your logic, shouldn’t that person marry a white person?
5. How does having similar genes mean that you are designed to be together?
6. Why is “self-worth” determined by who I date and marry? Isn’t that determined within?
7. What are the interests are black and white society and how they opposed? Who determined the interests of white and black society?
8. You mention that the white partner doesn’t do anything for the black community but what does the average black person do for the black community? Why does the black community expect or need other people’s help to get ahead? Why can’t they develop their talents and work hard to get ahead?
9. I’m still confused of how being pro-black (whatever that means) is determined by who you date and marry. If Martin Luther King and Malcolm X had white wives and still accomplished everything they did, they wouldn’t be pro-black to you? Why?
@@James-pl5uc 1. Pro-Black means hyper-focusing on ONLY Black interest and progress. People heavily nuanced in intersectionality, race and history; like most Black revolutionaries, have set the stage for what pro-Black perceptions are.
2. Who you choose to date indicates tastes and interests. For example, when someone states they have a “preferred” racial group; yet that person isn’t a related member of said group, it reveals that you are presuming, with no real world cultural interaction, that EVERY member of said group carries these attributes you seek. That’s inherently a generalization and therefore, racist.
In terms of self-love, theoretically you absolutely determine your self worth, however with the advancement of technology and the rise of social media, we obviously understand that’s not true. This becomes even more so, when you realize that not every group receives equal visibility in general. We live in a White world that’s constantly telling us that’s the only thing that’s attractive.
3. Surprisingly, yet not at all, there’s a lot of cultural solidarity with Black Americans and other Black groups globally because Black Americans set the tone for Blackness. We’re heavily borrowed from and that’s because those Nigerians and Black Cubans are African by blood. There’s some things you can’t shake no matter how many centuries of separation there are.
If you want to be more direct in terms of culture relations; why would there be a direct correlation if you’ve already acknowledged they’re two separate cultures that originate from two different places? Of course if you live within the same space as other non-Black minorities, you will share commonalities. However, our similarities exist only on a very micro scale.
That’s the exact reason whenever people talk about race relations and our differences, someone always ends up saying “but we’re all American.” It’s an attempt to avoid discussing our obvious differences on multiple levels, so people don’t feel like they’re “the oppressor”. It’s intentional blissful ignorance that will make the problem worse and boil over inevitably.
4. Who said you MUST do anything? None of us actually care who you date because the moment you do, you’re simply a non-factor. Why? Because odds are, you’re not dating that White person and living around more Black people than White. It’s not realistic unless you’re dating a White girl with a blaccent. Why? Because that’s how proximity works. We usually look for people who look like us by default. That’s literally everyone.
When we date and include other people who don’t look like us in our proximal spaces, yet also exist within said space; we must compromise. I’ve seen this “compromise” look mostly like a Black person desperately trying to move to a White suburb. Have you ever seen a normal Black person with a soul in a suburb? No.
If you we raised culturally White and only around White people, although incredibly unfortunate and very questionable, it would make sense that you’re a non-White individual who is interested in White partners.
However, the issue is that usually isn’t the case as we commonly see. Most people’s reasoning for dating out (as seen online) is usually based in some bad experience that was extrapolated onto a broader group or feeling unaccepted by their on community.
The dumbest argument i’ve seen was that “there are more Black women than men, so it’s fine” or “go where you’re appreciated”. If you have to literally get anti-lynching laws and the CROWN act passed, where exactly are you appreciated?
5. Two Africans make an African. Two White people make a White person. Two Asians make an Asian. How are you confused???
6. You already asked that question and I already answered it.
7. Another horrible question that completely ignores the very existence of Chattel slavery, Jim Crowe laws and segregation. Black and White values have been opposing since Whites decided we were subhuman enough to be stolen from our home and used for labor, sex and a plaything.
History determined the interests of Black and White society. You’re also forgetting that parents pass on ideology through generations. It doesn’t matter that slavery happened centuries ago, we’re still suffering from it and so is our global perception as a result.
8. The average Black person does more for the Black community and does then ANY White person would EVER feel obligated to; despite their “White guilt” and “empathy”. To pretend as if Black people, and even, Black celebrities do NOTHING for the Black community is anti-Black propaganda pushed by White media and perpetuated by other ethnic groups.
In my lifetime, I’ve been helped selflessly by more Black people than White people. I grew up as an emotionally intelligent Black child in a wealthy suburb that THANKFULLY chose not to assimilate outside of who I am and that has benefited me far more than any alternative action.
Onto the next terrible question. If Black people are already disadvantaged and HAVE tried tirelessly for generations to utilize every tool in their arsenal to gain upward mobility, yet still haven’t, is your claim that they just haven’t done ENOUGH? If that’s your angle, it would be better to assume you’re speaking from a malicious place because if those are your genuine thoughts given the vast amount of documented evidence; you’re insulting your own intelligence.
9. The more time you spend away from those that look like you; the less of an obligation you feel toward them. Even if they’re your own people. That’s how assimilation works.
The Black experience in America is INCREDIBLY unique on so many levels that even when we look at the diaspora, we can’t always relate to other Black groups.
In fact, for example you see it commonly in families that send their children off overseas to places like Europe or America for “higher education”.
“Higher education” is what the White people get and that’s where these people send their kids. Then, when these children actually DO end up with some form of success; they don’t typically come back and end up with some White partner. This happens INCREDIBLY frequently; to what statistical level, i’m not sure.
Malcolm X and MLK didn’t have White partners because they understood that progress for Black people isn’t an inclusive club that everybody gets into. That allowing foreigners to fight your cause would muddy the waters of focused advancement. It’s the same reason we “vet” “allies” today because our reasonable distrust towards any non-Black person who claims to be empathic. They understood that we have no allies and if we did; we wouldn’t have stayed enslaved for over four centuries and counting. The Civil Rights movement was a plea for visibility; not White acceptance.
I love Black women because I want a Black family. Because I can see myself in that child. I can raise that child around other boys, girls and ma’s and pa’s who are strong and want to protect him. I can raise that child without fear that the community around him won’t understand him or his Humanity. It’s simple for me, so I don’t hop fences for a better life. I will build my future around my people because I love my people and that’s what I want. If I have all these feelings, then dating out isn’t an option. I’m not so starved for human interaction that i’m willing to compromise my values for a non-Black woman; it wouldn’t happen.
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You’re pretending as if ANYONE can force you to stay within the confines of what you know. If you want to date out, do it. But, don’t hop online after you’ve claimed “happiness” on the other side. Make peace with your choice and live your life.
@@getinloser666 1. Okay, but you haven’t established how a person’s choice of a spouse is relevant. If I am single and work on pro-black causes and everyone agree I work on pro-black causes and then one day, I marry a non-black woman and do the exact work I have been doing before, why would that one act cause me to be not pro-black?
Why should I focus only on helping only blacks? If a white person is poor and struggling, i shouldn’t help him because he’s white? Isn’t that racist? If every group only focuses on the well being of their own group in America won’t that lead to interethnic conflict?
2. But what if I don’t have a “preferred racial group”?What if I just want to marry a woman who looks good and is nice to me regardless of race? I don’t see how the rise of social media means that your self-worth is not determined within.
3. Black groups around the world see black Americans as a separate group. It’s a uniquely American idea that skin color should be relevant. Blacks, whites and every other group outside of America divide themselves by tribe, nationality, religion and language. The idea that blacks around the world share a unique bond by skin color is nonsense that only black Americans believe. To black groups outside of America, you are just American.
4. A lot of what you wrote is unsubstantiated and sounds bad. How exactly would you know if there is any compromising? Why would it be unfortunate for a black person to live culturally and only around white people? Would it be bad to you if a white person lived culturally and only around blacks? A lot of this pro-black logic sounds racist and hyper obsessed with skin color, which is why I don’t associate with it.
As for reasons for dating out, no one needs to provide any reason for who they date and people can date people for any nonsensical reason they want. A lot of black women date violent thugs because they have “swag” and an edge and hardly anyone criticizes them for it but then if a black man wants to non-black women, he has to justify his decision to a bunch of strangers?
5. You didn’t answer my question. Why do you need to marry someone of similar genes? You can be of any skin color and be an African or Asian; those adjectives are not the same as skin color.
Despite being “pro-black”, ironically, you have a very Americanized view of the world. All Africans, Asians, whites etc. do not see themselves as the same group and they never have. Black Americans have far more in common with white Americans than any non-American group. Aside from similar skin color, you have hardly anything in common with non-American black group; you can talk to African immigrants and they will tell you the same thing.
7. No, I’m talking about 2024, not 60 plus years ago. How are black and white interests in 2024 opposed? There are very few whites who have the exact same view of race as whites of 100 years ago or even 50 years ago. While some notions may be passed down, it simply not true that entire ideologies of race get passed down from generation to generation.
8. The average black person doesn’t do anything for the black community. I never said that black celebrities don’t do anything for the black community. But if they don’t, then that’s fine. You are not obligated to help someone just because you have a similar skin complexion. Whether you have been helped more by blacks or whites depends on the environment you have been raised. More whites have helped me than blacks. As far as blacks and upward mobility, there are too many successful blacks in America to believe that blacks can’t succeed.
9. You didn’t answer my question so I will ask it again. If Martin Luther King and Malcolm X had white wives and still accomplished everything that they accomplished, they wouldn’t be pro-black to you?
Anyway, you are too Americanized and the vast majority of blacks and people in general outside of America will not understand or agree with your mentality.
@@James-pl5uc You can re-read every single point that I’ve written out; this time with a little more nuance.
I’m starting to wonder what your ethnic background is based on the way you’ve written some of your responses. The reason i’m bringing it up is because clarifying a detail like that, in a conversation relating to race, will reveal PLENTY.
My responses to your initial questions remain the same and will remain the same. They are thought out based on what I have heavily studied regarding the perpetual use of current and archaic systems to disadvantage Black people as a collective, regardless of social class. These systems and the same group of people that run them have been in place for 400 years, yet get slightly altered to account for the intelligence of each upcoming generation; as well mitigate the obligatory nature of said system.
What we need as Black people is emotional, mental and social independence from a predominantly White society that tells us “you aren’t enough, until you’re us”. Freedom once again from the non-stop subliminal brainwashing that Black people are forced to witness in everyday passing and the promotion of our own children to drown out the noise of self-hatred.
If you couldn’t parse what being pro-Black means based on that simple paragraph; you’re either a fool or 🦝, however, I see no difference or color, in this regard.
We are being harmed in a system that was not designed for us because we refuse to assimilate and we never will. So it’s time to move ahead and seek alternative options and spaces for my people adversely affected by a predatory Constitution.
If you don’t see the effects of said system and have benefited greatly from the misfortune of others within it; i’m glad you share no relation to these spaces, but there are plenty of people that do.
Overall, you seem incredibly hyper-focused on defining what being pro-Black entails rather than doing much thinking outside of that framework; so it would be much easier to say you don’t like Black people or their skin color and want to date White women/the rest of the planet. It’s much easier that way and much more honorable than cunning.
I care about and plan my future with my lineage. I care about specifically having Black children because those Black children have a home and two ancestral lands that they are entitled to. That’s far more than what most people even begin to care about when having a baby. What do you prioritize? “Good hair”?
I’m not really sure what being “Americanized” means accounting for the fact that we’ve already established that our entire conversation stems from the inequities of American society based on race and ethnicity.
From that alone I know you’re hard-stuck on a pre-existing narrative and aren’t really interested in changing your opinion, but rather interacting with the opinions of others to fuel your feelings. Americans don’t have a “central” identity and never have. The ones that believe that are xenophobes overseas.
My resolve is simply greater than yours, so you can alter nothing about me. Glean over my initial statement, take in the legitimate experiences of others and read until starts making sense. That’s my only advice.
Thank you for the entertainment of conversation, but we simply have differing views and that should simply be accepted.
I’m married to a white British man and I’m African, Dr umar would faint. I was born in sub Sahara Africa and my family moved to a prominently white country because it’s better than living in north Africa. Being pro black in a white country is strange, black people in the west are entirely to oppressed with race.
Yuck
So you essentially had no choice. Thanks for playing. Enjoy that Stockholm syndrome
Yet umars with a White Woman lmao so your all good. Plus White Chocolate is the sweetest especially when mixed with a true Black Queen. Do your thing girl
nah its life over here stay n Africa Std victims
This is ignorant. As a mixed race person wtf do you mean pick a side? Yall corny
GOW is a black video game.
Yes sir! Goated voice actor. Fucking love the original GOW
What is a black video game😂
Hard pass on this propaganda
Me personally I will never understand racial preferences, in my eyes attraction isn’t a race thing, if you take care of yourself and have a good personality and a cute face who cares if you’re black, white, Hispanic or asian 🤷