Why I'm Playing Cataclysm Classic As A Retail PvPer
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Cata and mop pvp just felt so satisfying.
Best 2 pvp expansions. Then WoD happened...
i genuinely enjoy these videos from you. id love to see more like this!
Appreciate the feedback!
Definitely like the chill bro format of this video, not always required to have a perfectly manicured video and you still get the main points across. Easier to listen to as well because it feels like a conversation rather than a briefing
Cataclysm is a great expansion. #CataHype
no its not, luckily every xpac is beter than previous, except for wod
@@friendsRfor773 Yeah Cata is actually a great xpac.
For PvP it was for sure.
@friendsRfor773 why can't you just let fellow wow fans be excited about something.
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I enjoy these raw discussion videos. I think you have great insight. Thanks!
This was really cozy ngl working and listening to you talk about cata! Would love a weekly podcast with like the OG’s of wow arena (snutz, cdew you etc). With this type of vibe just talking about wow in a positive way talking about the great memories.
Great idea mr bakker!
Yessss glad you’re playing Cata!
Ven is the best! Excited for cata pvp!
glad to hear you will be playing cata! Please upload pvp videos here even if it is raw for people who cannot watch live due to different time zones🙏
EV, always rooting for you. Cant wait for you to hit 100k. You're a real one. #TeamDetheroc #TeamBenediction
4.0 - 4.2 (before double legendary RLS) is peak wow pvp. Fight me.
I'm actually coming back to cata after quitting classic after vanilla just because of how great the pvp is.
Mop exist unlucky
MoP is peak WoW PvP.
MoP is the best PvP addon. Pls
I agree, S9 was the most balanced the game ever was.
Daggers aren't even relevant tbh, they aren't bis. There's 1h axes with aoe dmg proc rogues can equip 2x and it is the highest burst they can do. Either way only very few pve items are good and it's most full pvp gear
Yeah, mop got to much homogenization, shit become more like modern wow.
Last year i played a few months on a cata private server and it was the most fun I’ve ever had playing wow. I cannot recommend it enough. PvP was legitimately addicting, felt like I was 14 again. And the pve was awesome too. So hyped!
So when I played cata that was the highlight of it all. So muchhhhh fun.
Looking forward to watching this ven. I am also looking forward to cata :)
The most fun I had in Cata was when you could get "the" pve trinket for casters. It might not have been until season 4 but I remember even the LFR version of it did like 1/3 of your damage nearly as a Fire Mage. I'm sure it was the same for Boomkin, Lock, SP
I started wow in cata so I’m more then excited to play this xpac man.. I know a lot of people don’t consider this classic but for me this was classic.
I basically quit Retail because I only do PvP on it. And Cata has some stellar PvP and most people love it. But he is right with season 1 and firelands maybe for raids and Dragonsoul is easy enough to pug you can get them trinks and weapons
If I remember correctly, the conquest catch up if you missed a week was in place in 4.3 of original Cata, so it would make sense for it to be there now
would love to see gladi on 2s again, it was pumping in wrath. Whats your optinions?
Feel the same way. OG cata was actually a fun game for me. Gonna be great second time around
I didn't start playing wow until mop, im excited to play arena in cata.
Same but I quit in mop too, I just want mop classic 😂
@@peaknuisance9thats not what he said lol - welcome back tho :)
I like the discussion videos, something to listen to while gamin.
As a new player should i try cata classic or just go through chromie time? I wanna experience as much of the story as i can
hey how long does the first season take? is it like 4-6 months?
Cata is my fav which is funny always said BC or wrath was but second time around Im finding Cata like that perfect spot for PVP
Finally someone explaining why I’m hyped for cata pvp. It’s an improved version of wrath imo
Biggest win for me is adding magic dispel for all healers. Me and my bro are not tryhards and me playing rsham and not being able to dispel vs 2x casters oh man...
If you don't raid, is human really that good since you won't have access to PVE trinkets?
cata was my first time raiding with a guild and doing max lvl activities. Also played mage at the time, and pvp was so fun at the time.
Yes I enjoy these video and appreciate your takes and feedback as one the long standing WoW players…great video
Arcane_p
0:14 Oh you did more than dabble in classic/vanilla, you went all in. Those were some great times.
Cataclysm had great PvP until the final patch where rogue legendaries and deathwing weapons kind of ruined it.
Healers were kind of OP in Cata from what I remember.
No healers are normal in cata, 2s is like:
2 dps= 50% to win
1 dps 1 healer= 50% to win
In mop healers is OP, 2s is:
1 dps 1 healer=90% to win
2 dps= 10% to win.
How long will season 1 last?
Was Pandaria Remix meant to send a message that there wont be mop classic?
Hunters were so much fun in Cata, all three specs. They haven’t really managed to make hunters that fun again, would highly recommend.
Werent they unable to use their skills in melee range?
@@stelios9241 It's a 5 yard range now, so even though it's still a thing it's much less harsh. The specs are super fun to play. Really a great time for hunters
Cata was when classes started to get fun to play
A worthy adversary. I’ll be seeing you.
For PvPers are cata and mop not the best expansions?
Hope to see ya around
Yes i love the rambles❤
omg no raiding i had no idea, thanks ven
I have played cata for 6 years on private and rated BGs were peak wow for me, thosa balance druid and mage aoe was insane to deal with even as holy priest i were just spaming dispells 😄
Please do a frost mage/mage guide for cata!
There are NO up to date ones so far…would be so hype!
Many people hate on cata (probably because of LFR addition later on?), but I am not in that boat. I loved cata. I loved that the heroics were actually hard again after WOTLK, the raids had really difficult mechanics for normal raids especially after WotLK (very punishing). PvP was SO GOOD -all the way from WotLK to MoP.
Thoughts on hunters if pet cds do not reset? Ive heard that in the beta roar of sacrifice isnt resetting when you summon a new pet
I mean it would be a colossal nerf
It would be a nerf but also hunter still S tier
Cata is the going to be the BOMB.
what's this "conquest ketchup"? did heinz drop a new flavor?
Cata is good. Had fun playing so many classes and stayed for the entire xpac.
I prefer these videos it's cool to see what you're thinking and plan on playing. Much more entertaining then complaining about the op classes like everyone else is.
excited for cata in general but after coming from retail im not looking forward to making teams for arena again. i remember missing it at first but now i realize why they did it, it's hard to go back to this
You don’t have teams.
@@Foadski wait really ;? so its no different to retail ?
They removed teams in wotlk classic. You can group with anyone, on any realm and que arena or bgs as long as it's your faction.
wish i was into pvp back then. didn't start to truly pvp until SL
BROOO LETS GO!!! I'm playing fire pvp on Benediction !
Fire mage really pops off (to me) at the end of Cata so I hope to see you play it at peak towards the end of the xpac.
If you've been leveling a toon in the beta what happens to those toons when Cata goes live?
They stay around like they always do from the pre launch
Have you NEVER played a beta before for ANY game in your life???
Of course your beta character doesn't go onto live Cata.... you can't take beta progress with you 😂😂
Cataclysm is the best PvP we ever had, few understand
I would love to play Cata more (love that expansion), but Pandaria Remix is way more fun than I could ever dream of.
venruki da goat good to see you on my realm in cata bro! maybe we can play some rogue mage sometime
I do like these types of videos
Tight, I'm also on Beni, let's get some hunter mage duels in 😁
You had me at rated battlegrounds. Game on! See you on the battlefield! PS - Hero of the Alliance team LFM!
jeah to me cata was the best pvp addon overall
btw i think JC > BS at least in the first season
cata is the best pvp expansion of all time
RETURN OF THE VEN!!!!
Great video! I hope blizzard adds the retail conquest system, would add a ton of players. They should also make honor gains very fast and not a grind.
Didn't the human racial already get nerfed not to just be an extra trinket?
fire mage arena/rbg deep dive plz
Cata was exceptional for PvP.
Cata was a great expansion. The world is refreshing after so many classic expansions.
Baradin Hold*
Conquest catch up was originally released in cata, it will stay, it's not anything new.
Cata pvp is going to pop off. And with the new changes to points I think it’s got a lot of longevity too.
Am a little worried how many battlegrounds I would need to play to get the honor gear just to play arenas, not huge fan of battlegrounds, and if they don't buff the honor gains and it's the same as in the og Cata you would need to play hundreds of bgs to just get the gear. (or that is what I got when I googled)
Nah the honor gains at max level are increased. Lvl 85 honor is more normalized.
Finally came to the side of the light
I’ll be playing all Cata classic and mop classic if they release it for Pvp and pvp alone. Not gonna miss the chance.
I mean Cata was a great expansion for me when I played it and completed all of the content there was to have. So I have no desire to relive that. For anyone who has never experienced the expansion before, it is absolutely worth experiencing all of it for the first time for sure and hope they try it out.
A pvper wouldn't say this. Must be a pve dad
@@Magetastic69 I did both. But for PvP, I actually prefer MoP. To each their own.
@al44tec yeah mop is excellent. I'm 2860cr multiglad played every season of pvp since s1 tbc original and imo Cata S9 is the most balanced the game ever was. I was in the blizzcon tournament realm every year as well and yeah s9 cata is peak for balance. For fun I agree mop has some dope new spells that are a lot of fun and "complete" the class toolkits.
So season 1 is nice too play and after that u have too raid?
No. He is misinformed. You will be perfectly viable in full pvp gear the whole xpac. In the 2nd season there is a legendary staff that's very strong, not everyone can get it, and it's not required but it's great. Then in the 3rd season, s11, dragon soul has some pve trinkets & weapons that have damage procs on them. Their procs are why they're desirable not the stats. You can easily pick up the raid finder versions if you want to grab them otherwise don't worry about it. Unless you are pushing R1, like Ven's mindset is, you do not need to pve at all this xpac. The little bit I mentioned is it & that's only if u want to. It's not like wotlk or tbc where pve gear is required for certain classes to even function viably.
@@Magetastic69 thank u
@@Magetastic69thank you. I’m having so much fun with PvP not needing to do any raiding for gear so hoping my fun doesn’t end anytime soon
What i think of first about cata is reckful....starting an dinasty of his own - being the most competitive person i have ever seen when i was 18 years old.... Them times where the times everything started considering what reckful did to the community of wow pvp and people watching online streamers playing games in general. But also, when you watched him often and recognised his sozial behaviour from time to time.... it was also the end of everything. Its mind blowing to me how everything changed.... how corrupted everything is now and how sensitive real and honest people had to be. They offerd their minds and soul to thousands of people- without them contracts which all of them stresmers/ casters (btw. Also venruki, (love you though ven ❤) do have. For me it was the beginning and locking back... as i said, the end of everything. Thinking about it now, when i am grown up, married, having plans for the future and so on. Normal life people call that here^^at least. Btw. This was a brain storm - so if you have any hard emotions on this, reply - good or bad ❤🎉
rest in peace Byron
it seems the best of the best are on benediction. nothing but gladiator rogues/mages. veteran cata/mop players.
100% enjoyed the vid. supppper on the fence of playing but if i did a quick s1 and out would be fun
Clear blizzard should just make all gear obtainable with pure PvP, this is why we need PvP servers for classic realms.
I think this will be a good pvp expansion in generall alot of people getting back
The first season of cata was abysmal on original launch due to the bugs and class balances that needed to happen.
Give big Z a holler and open up the bakery with some double firemage action!
vote Venruki!!
As a wotlk warrior player i enjoyed cata first 2-3 patches it was so fun, you could destroy ppl without much gear... Later i stoped playing and moved back to wotlk.
Ill tryed retail yesterday and its way to much for me. I go with Classic
The win rate as horde is horrible in pre patch, i think a ton of people swapped to ally, i definitely don't remember nearly as man lossess and stomps back in orginal cata.
excited to smash people in cata arena soon
Cata is very likely the best pvp we will have in an MMO until a real wow killer such as Riot's MMO comes out in 2026. PvP was also pretty good in MoP but the talent system is weird and there was a shit ton of CC. Cata is 100% better than retail because there is merely an emphasis on cooldowns rather than a reliance on them. The game itself is still in somewhat of an aesthetically pleasing state as well, where rewards such as the distinguishing elite gladiator sets (something you find in no other expansion, they actually give better stats) really make people want to push hard for rating.
Some classes do have to pve for bis gear but only a piece or two its not bad
Ngl I really hope they add solo que to cata classic.
Hunter is amazing this expansion but if they dont amend the Dismiss pet cooldowns sharing its really going to fall off at high rating unfortunately
i remember byron's warrior from cata Anticide. R.I.P Reckful
Thought he started the warrior in mop as that's when he branched to other classes
@@austingore4248 his first character was his warrior. I think he got glad on war in season 2 and 3, before going rogue in season 4. He switched back to warrior at the end of cata, just before mop launched because he knew he was switching.
@@austingore4248 I believe you're correct
Starting an dinasty of his own - being the most competitive person i have ever seen when i was 18 years old.... Them times where the times everything started considering what reckful did to the community of wow pvp and people watching online streamers playing games in general. But also, when you watched him often and recognised his sozial behaviour from time to time.... it was also the end of everything. Its mind blowing to me how everything changed.... how corrupted everything is now and how sensitive real and honest people had to be. They offerd their minds and soul to thousands of people- without them contracts which all of them stresmers/ casters (btw. Also venruki, (love you though ven ❤) do have. For me it was the beginning and locking back... as i said, the end of everything. Thinking about it now, when i am grown up, married, having plans for the future and so on. Normal life people call that here^^at least. Btw. This was a brain storm - so if you have any hard emotions on this, reply - good or bad ❤🎉
@@hamm8934his first character he quit at like level 30 in vanilla cuz it was too boring to level. He came back in TBC when arena came out and his friend gave Byron the account with a level 70 rogue named Reckful
Cata feral hype.
nice video
I've been maining classic for a while now and im still gonna play destro as always. I mained it back during og Cata and i remember it being pretty undertuned in comparison to other classes and specs, but the playstyle of it was incredibly fun! Been looking forward to going back to Cata pvp for a long time and im excited for it. Definitely a time to play fire/destro, its mega fun! 😄
Cata is best expansion especially when the rogue gets legendary towards the end
Cata was amazing in pvp and pve( i love healing in cata)
Hey Im also on Benediction alliance! Jamming prot warrior
Ladies and Gentleman... who are you kidding Venruki
Only thing I really liked about cata pvp was near the last patch where feral and blood DKs were so insanely broken because of how the tank mechanics worked lol
Probably going to pass on it though because I already lived that life and I'm not leveling again. If I got a free level 80 like the PBE or something id play it otherwise no.
And PvP from what I remember was slow af but I just did arena not rated battleground. Only way BGs ended was the busted tank mechanics where your damage stacked so high over time that you just started doing so much damage it was insane.
Shadow priest/mage/resto shaman by far the strongest comp in cata.