Sitting outside SW and ORG dueling for literally hours and hours are some of my best memories from these old wow expansions! Cata and mop had all the top pvpers out there dueling everyone and it was great to get to duel them! You actually knew the top pvpers on your server and crap. It was great times!
Literally everyday of my life the last 5+ years i go outside of SW hoping people will be dueling again Even in wow people are on there phones being boring af
The difference of Wotlk-Cata-Mop Class Designe and Game Developement compared to Retail WOW is astanonishing its so much more Advanced you would think Retail WOW a Game from 2024 is ahead and they build on the Gameplay of Cata,Mop etc but they actually tuned down the Game Mechanics got rid of CC,Abilities and Damage Healing etc and now Cata is way more Advanced in comparison to Retail just crazy when you realy think about it its so much better designed ..
@@eggshapedisraelioperative6317I disagree, retail just LOOKS more fast paced because of the mobility creep. The pacing when you’re actually playing Cata feels quite similar to retail, compared to wotlk which felt like slow motion. And to pair that fast pace of Cata with the weight of your globals and your positioning it’s quite fun. Retail globals are super forgiving with Misinputs and misplays and you can stand almost anywhere you want if you’re not a healer and not high rated. Cata PvP seems a lot more positionally important and it’s more important to press your things at the right time, not just press them on cd like you see in solo shuffles
@@sqwippysquishy5287 Sorry, but you’re just completely and utterly wrong, unfathomably so. You are a 1400 player at best. Just so incredibly wrong. And don’t compare shuffle “tactics” with cata 2s/3s, like retail 2s/3s don’t exist
@@eggshapedisraelioperative6317 2100 in shadowlands and dragon flight on hunter, Druid, rogue, warrior, warlock. I never even push I just play for fun Que with whoever but I rarely do solo shuffles bc of the Que. And I’ve played the game being a fan of PvP since mop. I’m not bad and I’ve played many hours, have you actually qued Cata 3s yet? Retail arena is not hard and it just doesn’t have the weight of each global that Cata does. Retail is all about having a 12345 step rotation to bursting on cd, throwing out your insta cast ccs on healers for a 4 sec cc to land a kill in 60% dampening.
From Retri experience in the long past, fighting a mage who knows what he/she's doing without LOS is literally just suicide lmao. Man this actually got me nostalgic, used to duel a lot back in TBC/WOTLK, defo some of the best WoW times.
God now THIS is peak pvp to me 😭i don't think I can do another classic, but man was this the most fun I ever had in pvp closely in line with wotlk. (Save the balance talk, im talking pure fun for me! Balance or w.e be damned)
Mage are like rogue in this xpac. You do so much more effort to win while the other class got kite the whole game and did the same damage like you. Atleast this xpac you touch the mage and he die. In Dragon flight , they so tanky vs melee. These alter time and shifting power are toxic. They basically dont die.
In retail there are 10 different passives healing your opponent and you in the background and making it feel like your damage does literally nothing lol
Have a warrior that I main rn as prot and it’s great fun! But leveling a mage rn and I’m already getting stoked! Had one at max level back in the day and they were so strong and fun. Class fantasy was really there
for everyone reading and confused, it was bugged for many people. The spell blizzard would change to pyroblast with hs up, and the pyro that replaced blizzard was instant and could be used while moving. Regular pyroblast was also "instant", but it required you to stay still as if you're hardcasting and launches after a little cast animation so it wasn't really instant. That's why you had to use /cast blizzard /cast pyroblast macro, which solved this problem but to a degree, because the pyros were now instant but you couldn't use it when you didn't have enough mana for blizzard (even though you don't actually cast blizzard) It's fixed now
Sitting outside SW and ORG dueling for literally hours and hours are some of my best memories from these old wow expansions! Cata and mop had all the top pvpers out there dueling everyone and it was great to get to duel them! You actually knew the top pvpers on your server and crap. It was great times!
Literally everyday of my life the last 5+ years i go outside of SW hoping people will be dueling again
Even in wow people are on there phones being boring af
+1
@@neslind1 theres a ton of people on sargeras dueling in goldshire. more than back in 2010 IMO. just play on a good server.
When you dueled the warrior you didn't combust at all lol. Could have won so quick
Fire mage is just broken in general.
The difference of Wotlk-Cata-Mop Class Designe and Game Developement compared to Retail WOW is astanonishing its so much more Advanced you would think Retail WOW a Game from 2024 is ahead and they build on the Gameplay of Cata,Mop etc but they actually tuned down the Game Mechanics got rid of CC,Abilities and Damage Healing etc and now Cata is way more Advanced in comparison to Retail just crazy when you realy think about it its so much better designed ..
Retail is just a big bunch of bloat that does nothing. They improved the animations by a lot though!
Objectively false lmao just watch any high rated arena from this era vs retail. This era of wow is far more replace and simplistic compared to retail
@@eggshapedisraelioperative6317I disagree, retail just LOOKS more fast paced because of the mobility creep. The pacing when you’re actually playing Cata feels quite similar to retail, compared to wotlk which felt like slow motion. And to pair that fast pace of Cata with the weight of your globals and your positioning it’s quite fun. Retail globals are super forgiving with Misinputs and misplays and you can stand almost anywhere you want if you’re not a healer and not high rated. Cata PvP seems a lot more positionally important and it’s more important to press your things at the right time, not just press them on cd like you see in solo shuffles
@@sqwippysquishy5287 Sorry, but you’re just completely and utterly wrong, unfathomably so. You are a 1400 player at best. Just so incredibly wrong. And don’t compare shuffle “tactics” with cata 2s/3s, like retail 2s/3s don’t exist
@@eggshapedisraelioperative6317 2100 in shadowlands and dragon flight on hunter, Druid, rogue, warrior, warlock. I never even push I just play for fun Que with whoever but I rarely do solo shuffles bc of the Que.
And I’ve played the game being a fan of PvP since mop. I’m not bad and I’ve played many hours, have you actually qued Cata 3s yet?
Retail arena is not hard and it just doesn’t have the weight of each global that Cata does. Retail is all about having a 12345 step rotation to bursting on cd, throwing out your insta cast ccs on healers for a 4 sec cc to land a kill in 60% dampening.
"Everyone we"re playing are gamers".
*Opponent immediately trinkets DB to shear polymorph 😂*
From Retri experience in the long past, fighting a mage who knows what he/she's doing without LOS is literally just suicide lmao.
Man this actually got me nostalgic, used to duel a lot back in TBC/WOTLK, defo some of the best WoW times.
For ret pala the only way for beat a pro mage It is with the help of a column or a tree in elwyn. In the open field the mage has a lot of advantage.
It's funny that dueling basically died with MOP. Forcing class balance around arena was never a good idea.
same reason of why Dots and healaing feel good, because players they jsut did not passive heal
Whats the addon your using to track cc on you in the middle of the screen @Venruki? I cant find it for cata
looks like omnibar
@@Charmegrisen I have omnibar tracking the CD on like kicks and cooldowns of enemies but I mean the ‘sap 7 seconds’ countdown stuff in the middle
@@trashmorgan6626It's a weak aura. Can't remember the name of it.
@@trashmorgan6626 It’s an addon called loCA
Dude please MORE duel content so enjoyable! TYTY
Agreed!
God now THIS is peak pvp to me 😭i don't think I can do another classic, but man was this the most fun I ever had in pvp closely in line with wotlk. (Save the balance talk, im talking pure fun for me! Balance or w.e be damned)
WOTLK-CATA PVP was fun, I have to say MOP was hands down the best pvp and I’m ready for it retail is 💩 to many abilities
arenagrande... what a name xD
whats the name of your losecontrol addon?
What's that ice lance proc on fire mage please??
Man stealing wings has never not been horse shit lol.
What are you using to track enemy CDs and can i get your import for it?
Omnibar
stealing ret wings is the most satisfying thing ever mwahhaha
As a mage I don't understand why they bother using wings outside of a stun lol
Mage are like rogue in this xpac. You do so much more effort to win while the other class got kite the whole game and did the same damage like you. Atleast this xpac you touch the mage and he die. In Dragon flight , they so tanky vs melee. These alter time and shifting power are toxic. They basically dont die.
What’s the song at the start?
In retail there are 10 different passives healing your opponent and you in the background and making it feel like your damage does literally nothing lol
It's a bad time in wow when mages are THAT good. It's a shame that blizzard forced on so many good things to the mages toolkit.
Have a warrior that I main rn as prot and it’s great fun! But leveling a mage rn and I’m already getting stoked! Had one at max level back in the day and they were so strong and fun. Class fantasy was really there
I run the exact same setup but I use the DB glyph instead of blast wave cause I feel like it's so damn strong this expansion
What add on shows you the enemy cds? I use gladdy in arena but need one for open world
People made fun of me for leveling my warrior for pvp , made me quit cataclysm. i see they are not bad at all.....
Season 9 they are solid but seem to progressively get weaker each season.
Cata fire mage looks so fun Im adding to my list of pvp alts to lvl soon
That rogue lol... is he newbie?
Why do you waste dragons breath?
Gold shire will always be king
Quality content
is this funny?
wait, mage can blink out of a stun? wtf is that lol
yep, stuns are useless for mage. It's sick
xDDD
DB ftw
whats with the rogues dancing air?
Since when did bots become gamers
Love the fire gameplay tho
LOL!!! How you can use pyro while moving? My mage cant, game says "you can use this spell in movement" (when im HS proc ofc)
Never happened to me. Can always move
Instant proc Pyroblast then you can move while casting
@@ClovenTerra no i cant, only be instant if i stay quiet, can my char be bugged?
for everyone reading and confused, it was bugged for many people. The spell blizzard would change to pyroblast with hs up, and the pyro that replaced blizzard was instant and could be used while moving. Regular pyroblast was also "instant", but it required you to stay still as if you're hardcasting and launches after a little cast animation so it wasn't really instant. That's why you had to use /cast blizzard /cast pyroblast macro, which solved this problem but to a degree, because the pyros were now instant but you couldn't use it when you didn't have enough mana for blizzard (even though you don't actually cast blizzard)
It's fixed now