I have a sensitive arm and as soon as I feel anything weird I just change for a while to my Wilson Clash V1. I added a little weight with a leather grip and a head cover and it plays much better. It also helps that is a powerful racket so I don't have to demand so much effort from my arm to play.
Good to hear you can still hit There is nerve lines running from your elbow down to the fingers. Infact as a good Chiropractor I go to demonstrated to me in diagrams, the nerves run up from elbow to the neck and from there even into the eyes. You would have to test out in your biceps, shoulder or neck if you have any tenderness or pain there. However from what you have described its from pronation on serves so the nerves in the fingers are just a bit inflamed. The problem is likely caused on impact during pronation so you have to strengthen that with a variety of exercises. My coach had this problem when he played in a tournament though I have never had that only soreness on the outer fingers from ECU tendon in the past. That was a pain of a high order but different story. I have come to understand with finger pain it is nerve pain from either ball, string or racquet vibrations. Whenever you change a variable(ball or string or racquet) and feel pain in fingers or arms its a good indicator to avoid the changed variable. Temperature also does not help the body at all. When its colder your more prone to back and neck pain and easier inflamation in the fingers. Obviously(as you know) you have to warm up a lot beforehand and keep hands and neck warmer to better prevent this
It could be mouse or PC usage problem too. So also check this out. Once used some "modern" rackets with harsh Poly it really wrecked my arm. Switched to Clash V1 98. That helped a lot in the beginning. But that racket also feels sometimes weird when really playing fast balls. Then tested a lot of rackets and best blend of power/control/ and comfort has the Blade 100 for me( with hybrid string setup(Multi/poly). Only problem with this racket is the head heavy balance. So put leather grip and some lead at the handle and it is fine now. But this is only one part. Started general fitness training especially isometric excercieses with weight for (under-)arm seems to help . Now quite ok but not completely gone.
I had elbow and shoulder pain few months back. At first I thought it was from racquets and or setups, because I love trying different racquets and setups. Then I sold those who I thought caused it. Now I purchased thkse same racquets but I dont have any pain now (even with stiff poly on around 54lbs on stiff frames). What I think really caused it is… technique. I tried to improve and develop my technique and pains are gone. Also I changed my grip size from 2 to 3. My fave sticks now are: PA98 with 54/52 pure rush/ghostwire, PS97 v14 52/50 super toro, apd original 52/52 zero/sync, and Rf01 52/50 pure rush/ghost.
Thank you for your story. I think in my case it's just too much stress on the arm with 7 different rackets in 1 month + cold conditions, scary old balls and many other factors.
I’m on the other side. Been treating Tennis elbow. For me backhands are what cause my pain. I’m considering switching to double hand BH. Slice back hands are going to have to chill out as well.
Simple solution: I have over 20 customized racquets, weighing 364 -372g and 6-9 Pts H/L, 85 -100 sq inches, and every combination of strings Poly, Poly Hybrid, Multi/Poly, or Gut/Poly. Strung between 60-70 lb, Playing 5 hours a week for 10 years and now 57, No wrist, no elbow or shoulder issues, except when I demoed a stock Ezone DR 98 ( 330g ) with a full bed of stiff poly my elbow felt tender. Heavy setups are more stable, with less vibration and twisting, and offer more power/plough and feel as long as you keep a H/L balance. All 4.0+ players would benefit from more weight, the amount will vary depending on size and strength, I'm 183cm and 97kg.
I disagree. I tore my medial epicondylitis tendon on a serve when I tossed it too far into the court. This was a one time traumatic event. 4 years later I am still dealing with it. Within 5 minutes of trying a setup I know if my arm is being stressed. Heavier racquets put a lot of stress on your arm in a different way. I think it's better to say the racquet needs to be stable and stiff to plow through the ball to take the stress off your arm. But there are light racquets with good stability that plow through the ball. I tried Rafa's racquet at 360 grams and it killed my arm trying to use it.
@@mmllittle maybe it’s not the weight. It’s the stiffness of the racquet. I had a babolat boost aero Rafa that caused me lots of pain because of its stiffness (Ra 70). I’ve changed to a Head Speed MP with much lower stiffness (Ra 60) and the elbow pain went away.
Thank you so much. I'm looking at the bandage and it looks like an interesting product. Do you have experience with it? It's pretty expensive though, 123 Euros.
@ my coach is very impressive with this bandage. He told me, this bandage is the best for golfer/tennis ellenbogen. I had also the golfer ellenbogen, i take a brake 2-3 Mt. And the pain is gone. I heard to late about this bandage, thats way i didnt buy it. but if the pain comes back i will buy it.
So the heavy and soft racket helped your arm. Why not find a MAX 200G on your local auction site for the ultimate balm? Worked for McEnroe. 15-30 mins warm-up will probably cure all your problems.
That's true 😀 But of course this is a medical cannabis. Low- or no-THC, also known as industrial hemp or CBD-rich hemp (cannabidiol), is a variety of the Cannabis sativa plant that is specifically cultivated for its high CBD content and minimal amount of the psychoactive substance THC. But my friend makes his own cream from "the real" cannabis with THC and he says it's a marvel. Maybe I will try it. But of course this can go into my bloodstream and I can test positive by WADA...just joking 😉
This one is safe. It's without THC and you can buy it in every store. But a friend of mine makes his own cream with THC and maybe I will try it. Btw. I don't get tested on drugs, that is only when you play as a professional.
@CzechTennisGuy In certain civilian jobs , one gets tested and when I use to be in the military . We use to have to take pics tests on a generally regular basis and checked to see what we were consuming . Creatine was not allowed as well .
@@derekpappas1556 Creatine? Really? Experts on nutrition say creatine is the most tested substance in the world with almo zero negative impact on body. I take creatine 3x-5x times a week. It helps, but the dosage needs to be lower for my body. I tried higher dosage and my body actually didn't benefit from it. I like micro dosage with suplements, because my body needs just a little bit of boost and the rest is done by the body itself. I'm not a bodybuilder to take many grams of creatine. I tried, but it failed.
@CzechTennisGuy In the u.s army like I am sure in the marine core , it was considered a performce enhancer . All performance results had to be based off of ones own natural abilities and nutrician . This was the 82nd airborne division infantry with high endurance cardio and strength training . This was also the early 1991 and 92 . I started using it a bit then and the use of it was stoped cold .
@@derekpappas1556 I can see that. For sure the best performance should be based on natural way of life. If you look for example in the past at our Czechoslovak Emil Zátopek - this guy was a regular man but training the hardest way possible beyond limits of human body. He ran 20 km on a daily basis all year long. Yet he ate what he wanted, "junk food", he drank beer when he wanted, he was very casual, ordinary person. Yet he achieved some of the greatest sports results in human history. Without any enhancements. Now we have many drugs and vitamins to do that for us, yet the quality of the msucle tissue is a lot lower compared to the good old days. But of course also in the past there were many issues with steroid usage especially with athletes from the eastern block.
I have a sensitive arm and as soon as I feel anything weird I just change for a while to my Wilson Clash V1. I added a little weight with a leather grip and a head cover and it plays much better. It also helps that is a powerful racket so I don't have to demand so much effort from my arm to play.
Good to hear you can still hit
There is nerve lines running from your elbow down to the fingers. Infact as a good Chiropractor I go to demonstrated to me in diagrams, the nerves run up from elbow to the neck and from there even into the eyes. You would have to test out in your biceps, shoulder or neck if you have any tenderness or pain there. However from what you have described its from pronation on serves so the nerves in the fingers are just a bit inflamed.
The problem is likely caused on impact during pronation so you have to strengthen that with a variety of exercises. My coach had this problem when he played in a tournament though I have never had that only soreness on the outer fingers from ECU tendon in the past.
That was a pain of a high order but different story.
I have come to understand with finger pain it is nerve pain from either ball, string or racquet vibrations. Whenever you change a variable(ball or string or racquet) and feel pain in fingers or arms its a good indicator to avoid the changed variable.
Temperature also does not help the body at all. When its colder your more prone to back and neck pain and easier inflamation in the fingers.
Obviously(as you know) you have to warm up a lot beforehand and keep hands and neck warmer to better prevent this
It could be mouse or PC usage problem too. So also check this out. Once used some "modern" rackets with harsh Poly it really wrecked my arm. Switched to Clash V1 98. That helped a lot in the beginning. But that racket also feels sometimes weird when really playing fast balls. Then tested a lot of rackets and best blend of power/control/ and comfort has the Blade 100 for me( with hybrid string setup(Multi/poly). Only problem with this racket is the head heavy balance. So put leather grip and some lead at the handle and it is fine now. But this is only one part. Started general fitness training especially isometric excercieses with weight for (under-)arm seems to help . Now quite ok but not completely gone.
Clash pro is a remedy for tennis elbow..
Soft racquet with high weight + soft and low tension strings is the ultimate solution.
100%…Going back to the Speed Pro Legend and 48lbs worked wonders for me after 7months of weekly treatment
It would be great if Babolat released former lines that actual players use such as Fognini's Pure Drive
I had elbow and shoulder pain few months back. At first I thought it was from racquets and or setups, because I love trying different racquets and setups.
Then I sold those who I thought caused it. Now I purchased thkse same racquets but I dont have any pain now (even with stiff poly on around 54lbs on stiff frames). What I think really caused it is… technique. I tried to improve and develop my technique and pains are gone. Also I changed my grip size from 2 to 3.
My fave sticks now are: PA98 with 54/52 pure rush/ghostwire, PS97 v14 52/50 super toro, apd original 52/52 zero/sync, and Rf01 52/50 pure rush/ghost.
Thank you for your story. I think in my case it's just too much stress on the arm with 7 different rackets in 1 month + cold conditions, scary old balls and many other factors.
@ oh yeah I forgot to mention that Recovery is huge part too. Hope your arm gets better soon!
I’m on the other side. Been treating Tennis elbow. For me backhands are what cause my pain. I’m considering switching to double hand BH. Slice back hands are going to have to chill out as well.
Keep trying what works best for you. Good luck 👍
@ absolutely! Want to get back to playing without hesitation and pain. Doing whatever I can 👍
Simple solution: I have over 20 customized racquets, weighing 364 -372g and 6-9 Pts H/L, 85 -100 sq inches, and every combination of strings Poly, Poly Hybrid, Multi/Poly, or Gut/Poly. Strung between 60-70 lb, Playing 5 hours a week for 10 years and now 57, No wrist, no elbow or shoulder issues, except when I demoed a stock Ezone DR 98 ( 330g ) with a full bed of stiff poly my elbow felt tender. Heavy setups are more stable, with less vibration and twisting, and offer more power/plough and feel as long as you keep a H/L balance. All 4.0+ players would benefit from more weight, the amount will vary depending on size and strength, I'm 183cm and 97kg.
I disagree. I tore my medial epicondylitis tendon on a serve when I tossed it too far into the court. This was a one time traumatic event. 4 years later I am still dealing with it. Within 5 minutes of trying a setup I know if my arm is being stressed. Heavier racquets put a lot of stress on your arm in a different way. I think it's better to say the racquet needs to be stable and stiff to plow through the ball to take the stress off your arm. But there are light racquets with good stability that plow through the ball. I tried Rafa's racquet at 360 grams and it killed my arm trying to use it.
@@mmllittle maybe it’s not the weight. It’s the stiffness of the racquet. I had a babolat boost aero Rafa that caused me lots of pain because of its stiffness (Ra 70). I’ve changed to a Head Speed MP with much lower stiffness (Ra 60) and the elbow pain went away.
Get well soon. Best regards from München.
Do you know the Masalo Manchette (Bandage). Its perfect for your pain.
Thank you so much. I'm looking at the bandage and it looks like an interesting product. Do you have experience with it? It's pretty expensive though, 123 Euros.
@ my coach is very impressive with this bandage. He told me, this bandage is the best for golfer/tennis ellenbogen. I had also the golfer ellenbogen, i take a brake 2-3 Mt. And the pain is gone. I heard to late about this bandage, thats way i didnt buy it. but if the pain comes back i will buy it.
So the heavy and soft racket helped your arm. Why not find a MAX 200G on your local auction site for the ultimate balm? Worked for McEnroe. 15-30 mins warm-up will probably cure all your problems.
Dont force it too much man, it can get much worse and youre out for 6 months
Cannabis relaxes you anyway... No need to be injured 😂
That's true 😀 But of course this is a medical cannabis. Low- or no-THC, also known as industrial hemp or CBD-rich hemp (cannabidiol), is a variety of the Cannabis sativa plant that is specifically cultivated for its high CBD content and minimal amount of the psychoactive substance THC. But my friend makes his own cream from "the real" cannabis with THC and he says it's a marvel. Maybe I will try it. But of course this can go into my bloodstream and I can test positive by WADA...just joking 😉
I suggest you do not use that cream if you are being drug tested or piss tests . You can get in big trouble .
This one is safe. It's without THC and you can buy it in every store. But a friend of mine makes his own cream with THC and maybe I will try it. Btw. I don't get tested on drugs, that is only when you play as a professional.
@CzechTennisGuy In certain civilian jobs , one gets tested and when I use to be in the military . We use to have to take pics tests on a generally regular basis and checked to see what we were consuming . Creatine was not allowed as well .
@@derekpappas1556 Creatine? Really? Experts on nutrition say creatine is the most tested substance in the world with almo zero negative impact on body. I take creatine 3x-5x times a week. It helps, but the dosage needs to be lower for my body. I tried higher dosage and my body actually didn't benefit from it. I like micro dosage with suplements, because my body needs just a little bit of boost and the rest is done by the body itself. I'm not a bodybuilder to take many grams of creatine. I tried, but it failed.
@CzechTennisGuy In the u.s army like I am sure in the marine core , it was considered a performce enhancer . All performance results had to be based off of ones own natural abilities and nutrician . This was the 82nd airborne division infantry with high endurance cardio and strength training . This was also the early 1991 and 92 . I started using it a bit then and the use of it was stoped cold .
@@derekpappas1556 I can see that. For sure the best performance should be based on natural way of life. If you look for example in the past at our Czechoslovak Emil Zátopek - this guy was a regular man but training the hardest way possible beyond limits of human body. He ran 20 km on a daily basis all year long. Yet he ate what he wanted, "junk food", he drank beer when he wanted, he was very casual, ordinary person. Yet he achieved some of the greatest sports results in human history. Without any enhancements. Now we have many drugs and vitamins to do that for us, yet the quality of the msucle tissue is a lot lower compared to the good old days. But of course also in the past there were many issues with steroid usage especially with athletes from the eastern block.