Several players in the tennis history played two first serves, one, I clearly remember developing it, was Ivan Lendl. He tried that tactic to win Wimbledon. He was pretty successful with that tactic (reaching two finals), but he never felt comfortable with volleying, which was his other weakness to win on grass. To get back to Giovanni, he has forehand and backhand. The latest big servers (Karlovic, Isner) were missing backhands and were relying to get an easy volley. To me, Giovanni is much better athlete than both, Karlovic and Isner.
For those needing the metric system........ you NEED the metric system too. No logic in inch, foot, yard, mile etc. It is like something from medieval times. Really strange.
Who cares? Why are you still being pedantic about the metric system when it's almost 2025? We know how it works and the channel owner is British where they use both systems.
As someone who works purely in the metric system and only uses mph for driving and tennis- it's pretty tough trying to swap units when you are used to looking something in that unit
We can imagine that he adapts his service scenario based on his opponent and his confidence at the moment... because confidence is not something permanent.
Six foot eight means with your height you can get a higher and harder downward arc on your serve. Of course the rest of your game needs to be top notch, Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard probably has a longer reach, which is advantageous.
@@CSV1973 Not really, tall guys like that are more injury prone in tennis, aren't as good with low balls and can't run as much for as long as "shorter" guys on tour. Their main advantage is the serve. The vast majority of the best tennis players the last 30 years have been been between 5'11" and 6'3".
@@kabob21 Height is the issue, yeah. The question is whether the average height of elite players is STILL rising due to fitness, nutrition, training etc. The taller the elites get, the more removed the game becomes from normal people (and the less interesting). Fifty years ago the stars of tennis were average height. If you look at basketball, it has become a kind of freak show of super tall people. You need to be 6'3 to just get on the bench, except for a few exceptions.
@@michaelchurchill1048 basketball got lot more intresting when the stars got taller, which is backed up that it watched more and have much more relevance. It is a really big thing in china, where people arent known to be giants ... But you can still play it on court with friends, leagues of your level ... Same counts for tennis, you play and watch it for the fun and usually you aint angry and quitting it just because they are better - i mean you watch sports stars because they are much better then you usually and you appreciate there skill.
@christiang5209 Okay well ... maybe my argument wasn't that great. Let me try again: Servebots make for terrible tennis-watching. Imagine watching a match between Opelka and Isner. It would be a torture session. I think Wimbledon slowed down their courts because the serving was getting un-returnable.
6'8" is 99% of the reason for the serve dominance. Shaq ain't Shaq if he was 3 inches shorter......Dirk isn't Dirk if he was 3 inches shorter.......the rest of his game doesn't have to be as great but that mental game sure does.
I recall seeing a video about hitting two first serves a while back, not sure how long ago. I think that they calculated that pros would win more service points by hitting two first serves all the time. Maybe that only applied to the big servers. I forget. Hardly anybody wanted to try it though. The main reason being that they didn't have enough confidence in their first serve. They preferred the much smaller chance of double faulting with a kick serve.
Those are the right questions and I think the answer to the main question is that no, this will not be a feature of his game year 'round. You feel good inside, having a good week, you do this, make some waves. But it's not just conditions that change--players go through all kinds of ups and downs and if he doesn't have the reliable 2nd serve on an off day, he's probably going home.
Out law the 2nd serve and tennis would be more interesting … Every racquet does not have a 2nd serve… it was created with wooden racquets… no need to slow down the courts, slow the ball or roll back to wood racquets… Like badminton, pickle ball or ping pong… just 1 serve!!!
These comments are wild. People acting like aces and mph's is the only goal of serving and the only metric to judge if its any good. Having a huge serve is great but doesnt mean you win. Most of the huge servers you can name...isner, goron, ivo never won all that much. Same for the new guys. Thats why Sampras was special. His all around game was top tier AND he had that booming heavy serve that you couldnt read. He was always cool under pressure with it and his second was heavier and faster than most peoples. Yes there are bigger servers. Yes taller guys with wide angles and high balls, but they couldnt put pressure on you after the serve and if they had to rally, they lost. Pete could rally. Pete would attack with volley so you had no time to recover after the serve. Petes serve may not be the greatest single serve ever but he is the greatest server ever because of what he did and could do after the serve. Always consistent always big always clutch. Impossible to read...all backed up with crashing net game or a hammer forehand. Petes serve allowed him to put you on the defensive and him on the offensive every single point of a match. If youve played real tennis you know thats rough to deal with. Aces are nice but smothering your opponent with bludgeons is better. 14 grand slams versus zero for most of the big ace guys makes the case.
Seems like you skipped his overall 1st serve win rate was tour leading... As for #1 ranked players, he's 4" taller than the tallest in history, Marat Safin. It should be an obvious fact the geometry of a tennis court is just different for someone that tall serving. Perricard's 7" taller than Sampras. Not saying he's better or will even do well, but he sure as hell warrants watching with those stats.
Well GMP won the tournament, so he must be pretty good? Mark "Scud" Philippousis used to often serve big 2nd serves, but it's an all or nothing risk. The best players have all round games. Perricard is getting there!!
Never heard of him, future top 10 it looks like. I think people will adapt, tennis always has people that are the best at something and change the game. Then the game and players adapt. Saying that, I could not imagine returning anything that looks like what that guy is putting out.
I don't think so, agassi Johansen vs Agassi at the Australian open.. I think over 50 aces, nevertheless. Agassi managed to deliver a master class in returning because he won the match
Focusing more on speed rather than consistency can work, but shouldn’t be the first choice. Remember Ben Shelton at the 2023 US open? Just as fast as perricard but now Shelton has a more consistent deep kickserve, but he still has 140+ rockets when he needs them. The key is just serving smart
@@elliotcosmas i noticed white men often use "dude" to refer to black men. when referring to roger, you don't hear them say "dude" this "dude" that. Say "he" numbnut
That first part was so annoying when you compared Mpetshi’s second serve speed to Shelton’s first serve. Mpetshi was hitting first serves as his second, so it was basically a first serve. You were acting like his second serve is much lighter than his first. If he’s hitting a first serve on the second, there is no reason to emphasize so much that it’s his second serve
I don't think the maths is quite right, for the second serve, 52% of 95% (Scenario 1) is 49.4%, 75% of 60% (Scenario 2) is 45%, so Scenario 1 would be superior. For the overall serve win probabilities, I get 68.3% for Scenario 1, and 66.8% for Scenario 2
@@drstew1 it is close. In Scenario 2, I don't know why they took a figure of 65% for "first serve in", and 60% for "second serve in", if they are the same type of serve. I could well believe that a good second serve strategy would be to mix in a few first serves
Yes, he still needs to work on speed around the court. Tall people tend to struggle unless you are Venus Williams. Even Lindsay Davenport was not so fast around the court. Roddick tried his best.
@@mandandi yes. Giovanni is a beast but Carlos is a different species of apex predator. At the top of the food chain. LITERALLY. Jannik Sinner (world no. 1) had a 73-6 win-loss record this season and 3 of the matches he lost were against Alcaraz. Giovanni can go deep into big tournaments if he works on his speed around the court. Can win a couple of grand slams till the end of 2028.
@ChaitanyaThakkar-dc4uk Carlos is not No 1 in the world with good reason. Let's be real. He loses matches that he is expected to win, so he can not be the apex. Yet, his game is very good, and he has the shots and movement around the court is excellent.
The interesting thing is his improvement over the year!!! If he continues to improve next year will be interesting maybe the potential to win 2/3 ATP 250 tournaments next season.
If his serve is his only weapon then he isn't going to be the new messiah of tennis people want to make him out to be. If he can serve like he is doing now AND have a high tennis IQ to win rally points then he will be the new legend.
He is showing high IQ on his serve. He is challenging conventional wisdom regarding the second serve and it's paying dividends for him. The percentage play may well be to hit the second serve as hard as the first, at least in some situations. It'll be interesting to see if other pros adopt this strategy.
I think a player who has other strengths besides the serve should prefer a softer second serve (scenario 1) since he can outmaneuver his opponents after the serve. The opposite is true for someone relying primarily on big serves to win points.
Just saying: Mpetshi Perricard's serve stats might be impressive but it's collected by only 28 total matches in 2024. Sinner with 79 matches and Zverev with 90 matches will logically have some deduction in serve-win% because it stretches to so many matches being played. Take nothing away from the big man's performances but it's pretty certain that his serving stats will be lower when he plays as many matches as Sinner/Zverev, and that's if he can maintain a certain level of consistency throughout the season.
Good shout. He averages 18 aces per match albeit a smaller sample. Next guy is like 9 aces. Be interesting next yr if he can keep it up. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Roscoe Tanner made a career off of his serve with 150 mph serves (using far inferior racquets than today's players have.) He made it to two Grand Slam finals, winning one. So he was no Borg, Lendl, Connors, or McEnroe. But he was a spoiler.
Its mathematics. Probability. If he has the weapons, he should absolutely use them. You've already done the mathematics, so the answer is there in black and white. In fact, add to this, he's young, and his game will grow. Other aspects of his game will get better as well, so I believe he will continue his rise up the rankings. Ivanisevic won Wimby with a serve clinic, so Gio has every chance to do something similar. Speed of court wont make a lot of difference when your average second serve speed is 130 mph+.
That's the key, how to get to high reliability with minimal to no change in mechanics or technique and least drop of speed. Guys that can do it just taking 5mph off have a huge advantage over someone taking 15-20mph off.
TBH you should compare his service game to other 6'6 and 6'8 and other guys that are his height to their serving prime, and youll likely see throughout history we have guys aroudn 6'6 6'8 have serving primes as good as his, and that its nothing that new. but this guy does appear to have taken it up a notch, actually winning tournaments
He'll prolly crack the top 20 if hes consistant enough. But to be in the top five , he will need to bring more to the table than that. The top players will start figure him out eventually and read his serve well enough, he will need good baseline strokes and all around game to beat them consistantly.
I'd like to see how the efficacy of the strong second serve wanes out over the course of the match. Anyone can hit a strong serve at the beginning of the match, but once you've been playing for an hour it's a different story.
"Anyone" ...can what? LOL. His 1st serve speed is gigantic, and the second is, too ...and he doesn't falter at all from what I've seen: as any older player knows, the serve is the last thing to go....this kid is going to be a blast to watch.
I've been a big of Giovanni for a couple years and I wish him the best but I'm worried he will struggle at the slams, best of 5 will be very difficult for him to maintain..
He was redlining the second serve throughout the Basel and Paris tournaments, not every match though. The main one was against Shelton but he definitely has periods where he will go for it for a whole set. Thanks for watching and commenting!
The most important is how is your return game. GMP made Khachanov look like a best server ever, when he won only 2 points on return in the first set. Then GMP got broken 4 or 5 times in the next 2 sets.
I am not sure if this will work or not, but I can tell Ben Shelton and probably many other American players are pissed that they did not think of doing this first.
We've seen them before, just make the balls bigger and the speeds will come back down. Back in the days you had rusedski, philippousis, ivanisevic who were all big serving guys
@TwoWheels47 They both have incredible returns, but I'm sure Giovanni will step up with his serve even more. That's why it'd be interesting to watch these match ups.
Just another big server, and Shelton is not renowned for his return of serve and movement. Sam Groth served over 163mph against Federer, who returned it like it was 100mph...consistently throughout their match. Isner and Karlovic tried the same against Novak and fell with even more devastating results, such is Novak's ability to anticipate and move incredibly quickly. When Isner was asked who was the best returner of his serve during his career, his answer was unequivocally Novak. He said, "he's the first, second and third best returner I have ever faced". And Isner has the world record for the number of career aces, 14,440. He played Isner 12 times and lost 10 out of the 12, an 83.3 losing percentage. So, a huge serve really only works against lesser players. It was the same when Borg faced Rosco Tanner, and he was throwing down serves at an average of 145mph in 1978 with a wooden racket and even hit 153mph. Once a top 5 receiving player learns a big servers style, it's only a matter of time before a they turn the match to their favor panicing the power server (Shelton does it all the time) because they have no B game. Big serves are an impressive feat of technique but very rarely is a game changer.
@@HaraldSchneider-m8n Yes, Federer is the best returner of superfast serves. But you are wrong about Novak, his active return is good against average serves but bad against superfast serves, he always had a problems and losses against Karlovic.
I really don't understand your scenario 2 of a two first serve approach. If Perricard serves 60% second serves in, that means he hits 40% double faults.
Lol Janowicz was a bit crazy emotionally on the court. Agree his serve was really good too. I think GMP might have higher ceiling mainly cause his so calm and looks like he is calculating during the match. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@Tennis_Served we will see but service alone won't be enough because every big server, as said in the video, find returners back at them - so far gmp as a good baseline game, but not great
@@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten The dude hit 155mph. You need to rewatch the game tape. His serve was a mystery of science. This guy has nothing on that. He's 6'8" with arms down to his knees. The physics is easy to just hit straight down on the ball.
What a silly statement. This guy has not achieved anything yet but you're saying he'd beat prime Nadal at RG just because of his serve 😆😆😆😆😆.... kids these days are hilarious.
@@theodorekim4193 The clay at Roland Garros plays much slower than indoor courts. Nadal's cross court heavy topspin forehand would go directly to his single handed backhand and pound it into submission. If the guy had a double handed backhand, he might have a whisper of a chance and repeat Robin Soderling's feat from 2009.
Why not use to two first serves? I've heard this same logic for Zverev from sports commentators who should know better. It's because the mind is different from the 1st to 2nd serve. I don't you can take the same serving percentage for both serves. The second serve percentage will drop as the pressure to get it in increases. I'm sure that early in it's evolution, tennis players used two flat serves and the game was pretty poor with many double faults. That's why spin serves were invented to cope with the pressure and to make the game more fluid.
Those people were also not 6'8" and built from infancy to hit bombs. Perricard clearly shows you can have a massive win % serving absolute flat monsters on both serves, it's just not a hypothetical any more.
Getting closer to a real modern athlete to play tennis. Always wondered what a Michael Jordan type athlete would do to tennis. Golf had its Tiger woods. Some day tennis will too hopefully soon.
I wonder how you can even miss a first serve when you're 6'8''. Your calculation at 6:16 is wrong by the way and it is not a viable strategy if you use these numbers: Scenario 1: - 64% of first serves are in while he wins 79% of points --> 0.64 x 0.79 = 0.5056 = 50.56% - To that number you need to add the point win percentage for the times he needs to hit a second serve (36% of the time). He will win 52% of those points with a 95% chance of the second serve to be in --> 0.36 x 0.95 x 0.52 = 0.17784 = 17,784% - Service points won: 0.5056 + 0.17784 = 0,68344 = 68.344% Scenario 2: - 50.56% of all points played won with a first serve - Add second serve win percentage: 0.36 x 0.6 x 0.75 = 0.162 = 16.2% - Service points won: 0.5056 + 0.162 = 0.6676 = 66.76% However, if he would have the exact same stats for 1st and 2nd serve he would win ~0.4176% more points. (0.36 x 0.64 x 0.79 = 0.182 --> 0.182 - 0.17784 = 0.004176)
When a serve looks ridiculous on the internet, you know its ridiculous IRL.
Amazing.
Several players in the tennis history played two first serves, one, I clearly remember developing it, was Ivan Lendl. He tried that tactic to win Wimbledon. He was pretty successful with that tactic (reaching two finals), but he never felt comfortable with volleying, which was his other weakness to win on grass.
To get back to Giovanni, he has forehand and backhand. The latest big servers (Karlovic, Isner) were missing backhands and were relying to get an easy volley. To me, Giovanni is much better athlete than both, Karlovic and Isner.
For those needing the metric system........ you NEED the metric system too. No logic in inch, foot, yard, mile etc. It is like something from medieval times. Really strange.
What size are you tires?
@@ZenoLee0 come on men, he is telling the truth
@@ZenoLee0 my 6:2 tires are zuzu-kleers and /- banbuzelians
Who cares? Why are you still being pedantic about the metric system when it's almost 2025? We know how it works and the channel owner is British where they use both systems.
As someone who works purely in the metric system and only uses mph for driving and tennis- it's pretty tough trying to swap units when you are used to looking something in that unit
We can imagine that he adapts his service scenario based on his opponent and his confidence at the moment... because confidence is not something permanent.
Ive seen him a few feet away from me at this year's wimbledon, my god, its a bullet and the sound.f
Six foot eight means with your height you can get a higher and harder downward arc on your serve. Of course the rest of your game needs to be top notch, Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard probably has a longer reach, which is advantageous.
not fair
@@CSV1973 Not really, tall guys like that are more injury prone in tennis, aren't as good with low balls and can't run as much for as long as "shorter" guys on tour. Their main advantage is the serve. The vast majority of the best tennis players the last 30 years have been been between 5'11" and 6'3".
@@kabob21 Height is the issue, yeah. The question is whether the average height of elite players is STILL rising due to fitness, nutrition, training etc. The taller the elites get, the more removed the game becomes from normal people (and the less interesting). Fifty years ago the stars of tennis were average height. If you look at basketball, it has become a kind of freak show of super tall people. You need to be 6'3 to just get on the bench, except for a few exceptions.
@@michaelchurchill1048 basketball got lot more intresting when the stars got taller, which is backed up that it watched more and have much more relevance. It is a really big thing in china, where people arent known to be giants ... But you can still play it on court with friends, leagues of your level ...
Same counts for tennis, you play and watch it for the fun and usually you aint angry and quitting it just because they are better - i mean you watch sports stars because they are much better then you usually and you appreciate there skill.
@christiang5209 Okay well ... maybe my argument wasn't that great. Let me try again: Servebots make for terrible tennis-watching. Imagine watching a match between Opelka and Isner. It would be a torture session. I think Wimbledon slowed down their courts because the serving was getting un-returnable.
132mph average on the second serve?! Jeeze....
You like tennis…
6'8" is 99% of the reason for the serve dominance. Shaq ain't Shaq if he was 3 inches shorter......Dirk isn't Dirk if he was 3 inches shorter.......the rest of his game doesn't have to be as great but that mental game sure does.
I recall seeing a video about hitting two first serves a while back, not sure how long ago. I think that they calculated that pros would win more service points by hitting two first serves all the time. Maybe that only applied to the big servers. I forget. Hardly anybody wanted to try it though. The main reason being that they didn't have enough confidence in their first serve. They preferred the much smaller chance of double faulting with a kick serve.
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This is obvious AI slop
Those are the right questions and I think the answer to the main question is that no, this will not be a feature of his game year 'round. You feel good inside, having a good week, you do this, make some waves. But it's not just conditions that change--players go through all kinds of ups and downs and if he doesn't have the reliable 2nd serve on an off day, he's probably going home.
But 6'8" gets to SEE a lot more court on the other side. The geometry is just better for them. Time will tell.
Out law the 2nd serve and tennis would be more interesting … Every racquet does not have a 2nd serve… it was created with wooden racquets… no need to slow down the courts, slow the ball or roll back to wood racquets… Like badminton, pickle ball or ping pong… just 1 serve!!!
That would be a cool rule change for like one tournament a year. Big hearted Diego Schwartz would have loved that. Thanks for watching and commenting!
These comments are wild. People acting like aces and mph's is the only goal of serving and the only metric to judge if its any good. Having a huge serve is great but doesnt mean you win. Most of the huge servers you can name...isner, goron, ivo never won all that much. Same for the new guys. Thats why Sampras was special. His all around game was top tier AND he had that booming heavy serve that you couldnt read. He was always cool under pressure with it and his second was heavier and faster than most peoples. Yes there are bigger servers. Yes taller guys with wide angles and high balls, but they couldnt put pressure on you after the serve and if they had to rally, they lost. Pete could rally. Pete would attack with volley so you had no time to recover after the serve. Petes serve may not be the greatest single serve ever but he is the greatest server ever because of what he did and could do after the serve. Always consistent always big always clutch. Impossible to read...all backed up with crashing net game or a hammer forehand. Petes serve allowed him to put you on the defensive and him on the offensive every single point of a match. If youve played real tennis you know thats rough to deal with. Aces are nice but smothering your opponent with bludgeons is better. 14 grand slams versus zero for most of the big ace guys makes the case.
Seems like you skipped his overall 1st serve win rate was tour leading... As for #1 ranked players, he's 4" taller than the tallest in history, Marat Safin. It should be an obvious fact the geometry of a tennis court is just different for someone that tall serving. Perricard's 7" taller than Sampras.
Not saying he's better or will even do well, but he sure as hell warrants watching with those stats.
Not sure I agree with your win rates: 1st scenario: 0.64*0.79+0.36*.95* .52=0.68344
2nd scenario: 0.64*0.79+0.36*.60*.75=0.6676 so slightly lower?
Well GMP won the tournament, so he must be pretty good?
Mark "Scud" Philippousis used to often serve big 2nd serves, but it's an all or nothing risk.
The best players have all round games.
Perricard is getting there!!
Never heard of him, future top 10 it looks like. I think people will adapt, tennis always has people that are the best at something and change the game. Then the game and players adapt. Saying that, I could not imagine returning anything that looks like what that guy is putting out.
I don't think so, agassi Johansen vs Agassi at the Australian open.. I think over 50 aces, nevertheless. Agassi managed to deliver a master class in returning because he won the match
Focusing more on speed rather than consistency can work, but shouldn’t be the first choice. Remember Ben Shelton at the 2023 US open? Just as fast as perricard but now Shelton has a more consistent deep kickserve, but he still has 140+ rockets when he needs them. The key is just serving smart
Dude is 6 8", that is a cheatcode in its own
@@elliotcosmas i noticed white men often use "dude" to refer to black men. when referring to roger, you don't hear them say "dude" this "dude" that. Say "he" numbnut
Shelton is a great example of poor serve placement. He gets broken all the time. All speed and no placement
Ben Shelton's second serve averages around 106-108 mph (170-175 km/h). Perricard is in another universe by comparison averaging 132mph.
That first part was so annoying when you compared Mpetshi’s second serve speed to Shelton’s first serve. Mpetshi was hitting first serves as his second, so it was basically a first serve. You were acting like his second serve is much lighter than his first. If he’s hitting a first serve on the second, there is no reason to emphasize so much that it’s his second serve
I think his first serve average was 138? Definitely faster than his second serve.
Also he’s athletic, unlike the Isner’s and other tall guys, with massive serves. If he can avoid injury, he will be tough
Sampras: That's my boy!
I don't think the maths is quite right, for the second serve, 52% of 95% (Scenario 1) is 49.4%, 75% of 60% (Scenario 2) is 45%, so Scenario 1 would be superior. For the overall serve win probabilities, I get 68.3% for Scenario 1, and 66.8% for Scenario 2
Wow great reading knowledge of such stuff. I was curious by this, but reading your comment explains a lot more…
@@drstew1 it is close. In Scenario 2, I don't know why they took a figure of 65% for "first serve in", and 60% for "second serve in", if they are the same type of serve. I could well believe that a good second serve strategy would be to mix in a few first serves
It was bound to happen that analytics pushed players in this direction. But it puts a lot of pressure on one shot in the arsenal.
Isn’t this the guy who got folded by Alcaraz 6-4, 6-4 in first round of Beijing open ATP 500??
Yes, he still needs to work on speed around the court. Tall people tend to struggle unless you are Venus Williams. Even Lindsay Davenport was not so fast around the court. Roddick tried his best.
@@mandandi yes. Giovanni is a beast but Carlos is a different species of apex predator. At the top of the food chain. LITERALLY.
Jannik Sinner (world no. 1) had a 73-6 win-loss record this season and 3 of the matches he lost were against Alcaraz.
Giovanni can go deep into big tournaments if he works on his speed around the court.
Can win a couple of grand slams till the end of 2028.
@ChaitanyaThakkar-dc4uk Carlos is not No 1 in the world with good reason. Let's be real. He loses matches that he is expected to win, so he can not be the apex.
Yet, his game is very good, and he has the shots and movement around the court is excellent.
The interesting thing is his improvement over the year!!! If he continues to improve next year will be interesting maybe the potential to win 2/3 ATP 250 tournaments next season.
he won already one ATP250 and one ATP500 for his first year on the tour
@ yeah but I think he can win 3 tournaments next year
I see hin reaching the top 10 eventually.
Wait till he faces Djoker.. Djoker will smoke him out of the court
My coach was a big server. He always told us, the second serve is a second chance at your first serve, don't fuck it up again.
These serves are becoming like the 3 pointers in the NBA. A one-way ticket to boredom and then extinction.
do you know how to play tennis ?
If his serve is his only weapon then he isn't going to be the new messiah of tennis people want to make him out to be. If he can serve like he is doing now AND have a high tennis IQ to win rally points then he will be the new legend.
He is showing high IQ on his serve. He is challenging conventional wisdom regarding the second serve and it's paying dividends for him. The percentage play may well be to hit the second serve as hard as the first, at least in some situations. It'll be interesting to see if other pros adopt this strategy.
Tennis IQ won't do much if your groundstrokes and movement are not up to the level.
@@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegetenthis guy can move and hit all the shots.
@@goldencalf5144 Just knowing he can do that has to put guys a bit more on the defensive when receiving his 2nd serve.
Serve wins matches.
What's truly scary is that he's still growing ....
I think a player who has other strengths besides the serve should prefer a softer second serve (scenario 1) since he can outmaneuver his opponents after the serve. The opposite is true for someone relying primarily on big serves to win points.
What’s his first serve speed?
Just saying: Mpetshi Perricard's serve stats might be impressive but it's collected by only 28 total matches in 2024. Sinner with 79 matches and Zverev with 90 matches will logically have some deduction in serve-win% because it stretches to so many matches being played. Take nothing away from the big man's performances but it's pretty certain that his serving stats will be lower when he plays as many matches as Sinner/Zverev, and that's if he can maintain a certain level of consistency throughout the season.
Good shout. He averages 18 aces per match albeit a smaller sample. Next guy is like 9 aces. Be interesting next yr if he can keep it up. Thanks for watching and commenting.
and many more pressure games the top guys had too
Unfair is bit strong, some forehands unfair than, or his single backhand could be an unfair weakness? Plus 2 first servers are common? 30% in tour?
Roscoe Tanner made a career off of his serve with 150 mph serves (using far inferior racquets than today's players have.) He made it to two Grand Slam finals, winning one. So he was no Borg, Lendl, Connors, or McEnroe. But he was a spoiler.
Might be before my time - Roscoe Tanner. Sounds like an absolute beast of a server though! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I remember him. He was hot.
Ok, let’s see him do it under the greatest pressure, then we know we have a proper baller!
Its mathematics. Probability. If he has the weapons, he should absolutely use them. You've already done the mathematics, so the answer is there in black and white.
In fact, add to this, he's young, and his game will grow. Other aspects of his game will get better as well, so I believe he will continue his rise up the rankings. Ivanisevic won Wimby with a serve clinic, so Gio has every chance to do something similar. Speed of court wont make a lot of difference when your average second serve speed is 130 mph+.
@@bigrobsydney I think he got the maths wrong tho. See my comment
2 first serves has so many advantages... been doing it for years. If I try to slow the serve down then I break my mechanics and technique.
That's the key, how to get to high reliability with minimal to no change in mechanics or technique and least drop of speed. Guys that can do it just taking 5mph off have a huge advantage over someone taking 15-20mph off.
That tremendous serve into volley reminds me of Sampras
6:21 Like the math teacher says, can you show your work?
How did you arrive at your mathematical conclusions?
TBH you should compare his service game to other 6'6 and 6'8 and other guys that are his height to their serving prime, and youll likely see throughout history we have guys aroudn 6'6 6'8 have serving primes as good as his, and that its nothing that new. but this guy does appear to have taken it up a notch, actually winning tournaments
He'll prolly crack the top 20 if hes consistant enough. But to be in the top five , he will need to bring more to the table than that. The top players will start figure him out eventually and read his serve well enough, he will need good baseline strokes and all around game to beat them consistantly.
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I'd like to see how the efficacy of the strong second serve wanes out over the course of the match. Anyone can hit a strong serve at the beginning of the match, but once you've been playing for an hour it's a different story.
Or 4 hours
"Anyone" ...can what? LOL. His 1st serve speed is gigantic, and the second is, too ...and he doesn't falter at all from what I've seen: as any older player knows, the serve is the last thing to go....this kid is going to be a blast to watch.
@@drfabulous77 I didn't say anyone can serve like him (obviously). If we could the video would be pointless.
@@Jaime-eg4eb You literally wrote "anyone" ...or maybe someone else edited your post, alternative facts style, huh?
He took Sampras advice too literally: "You're only as good as your second serve".
I've been a big of Giovanni for a couple years and I wish him the best but I'm worried he will struggle at the slams, best of 5 will be very difficult for him to maintain..
that is absolutely mad, 132mph second serve average. does he do this often?
He was redlining the second serve throughout the Basel and Paris tournaments, not every match though. The main one was against Shelton but he definitely has periods where he will go for it for a whole set. Thanks for watching and commenting!
While his serving his insane, hes not a one trick pony and other aspects of his game are very good. His ceiling is very high.
Serves like a badminton smash
The comments are so negative and I see people busy mentioning other players…
The most important is how is your return game. GMP made Khachanov look like a best server ever, when he won only 2 points on return in the first set. Then GMP got broken 4 or 5 times in the next 2 sets.
I am not sure if this will work or not, but I can tell Ben Shelton and probably many other American players are pissed that they did not think of doing this first.
shelton slowed down his serve in porpouse, he said he will focus on angles, you should know that
We've seen them before, just make the balls bigger and the speeds will come back down. Back in the days you had rusedski, philippousis, ivanisevic who were all big serving guys
Ok, but he is 2,03 and nearly 100kg, so these attributes are rare.
I want to see him against Sinner and Alcaraz. It will be very interesting.
What is interesting about it? If everything runs normally, he won't stand a chance
They will upuse his backhand and make fun of him
Yes, would be interesting to see how they deal with his serves
@TwoWheels47 They both have incredible returns, but I'm sure Giovanni will step up with his serve even more. That's why it'd be interesting to watch these match ups.
@@gablan1468 agreed
Just another big server, and Shelton is not renowned for his return of serve and movement. Sam Groth served over 163mph against Federer, who returned it like it was 100mph...consistently throughout their match. Isner and Karlovic tried the same against Novak and fell with even more devastating results, such is Novak's ability to anticipate and move incredibly quickly. When Isner was asked who was the best returner of his serve during his career, his answer was unequivocally Novak. He said, "he's the first, second and third best returner I have ever faced". And Isner has the world record for the number of career aces, 14,440. He played Isner 12 times and lost 10 out of the 12, an 83.3 losing percentage. So, a huge serve really only works against lesser players. It was the same when Borg faced Rosco Tanner, and he was throwing down serves at an average of 145mph in 1978 with a wooden racket and even hit 153mph. Once a top 5 receiving player learns a big servers style, it's only a matter of time before a they turn the match to their favor panicing the power server (Shelton does it all the time) because they have no B game. Big serves are an impressive feat of technique but very rarely is a game changer.
Roscoe Tanner played with a metal racket I think a head.
@@HaraldSchneider-m8n Yes, Federer is the best returner of superfast serves. But you are wrong about Novak, his active return is good against average serves but bad against superfast serves, he always had a problems and losses against Karlovic.
I really don't understand your scenario 2 of a two first serve approach. If Perricard serves 60% second serves in, that means he hits 40% double faults.
Reminds me of janowicz
Didnt last long
But lets see
Two first serves is good only when you have first serve solid and way better than second
Lol Janowicz was a bit crazy emotionally on the court. Agree his serve was really good too. I think GMP might have higher ceiling mainly cause his so calm and looks like he is calculating during the match. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@Tennis_Served we will see but service alone won't be enough because every big server, as said in the video, find returners back at them - so far gmp as a good baseline game, but not great
Gio also has a forehand, and good point construction, and a solid temperament. Not a bot.
He's 6'8" Not impressed. Let's talk about Roddick doing almost the same thing at 6'1"
Let's wait 20 years and than you can comment
Roddicks numbers arent even close to GMP.
Roddick is not even close (and is 6'2), and he serves better than Isner and Opelka who are taller...
@@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten but his serve is nowhere near Perricard. Thats a fact.
@@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten The dude hit 155mph. You need to rewatch the game tape. His serve was a mystery of science. This guy has nothing on that. He's 6'8" with arms down to his knees. The physics is easy to just hit straight down on the ball.
Ah, he's 6'8". That explains a big part of this...
Yeah the geometry of a tennis court changes up there...
Serve bot. 6'8" and very much like the American, Creston (127mph SS).
This guy would beat prime Nadal at RG too
Not with that single handed backhand
@@goldencalf5144 With the serve alone, he could
Delusional comment from a kid.
What a silly statement. This guy has not achieved anything yet but you're saying he'd beat prime Nadal at RG just because of his serve 😆😆😆😆😆.... kids these days are hilarious.
@@theodorekim4193 The clay at Roland Garros plays much slower than indoor courts. Nadal's cross court heavy topspin forehand would go directly to his single handed backhand and pound it into submission. If the guy had a double handed backhand, he might have a whisper of a chance and repeat Robin Soderling's feat from 2009.
Why not use to two first serves? I've heard this same logic for Zverev from sports commentators who should know better. It's because the mind is different from the 1st to 2nd serve. I don't you can take the same serving percentage for both serves. The second serve percentage will drop as the pressure to get it in increases. I'm sure that early in it's evolution, tennis players used two flat serves and the game was pretty poor with many double faults. That's why spin serves were invented to cope with the pressure and to make the game more fluid.
Those people were also not 6'8" and built from infancy to hit bombs. Perricard clearly shows you can have a massive win % serving absolute flat monsters on both serves, it's just not a hypothetical any more.
"Those needing the metric system" made me stop watching . You measure length in bananas , you are one who "need" conversion .
second serve 132mph is 212 km/h... 🤨
Getting closer to a real modern athlete to play tennis. Always wondered what a Michael Jordan type athlete would do to tennis. Golf had its Tiger woods. Some day tennis will too hopefully soon.
he wins more points in scenario1 second serve since 95*52 is 49.4 percent and in scenario2 60*75 is 45 percent
GMP will rise to top 10... in 2025 or 2026.
Rpm + adequate speed is better than high speed but low RPM. Think Sampras.
Suddenly, all forgot Ivanisevic))
Lol definitely not forgotten! His improved Novak's serve so much.
Not trying to flex but i was the 3rd person to like
That's even more impressive than Mpetshi's second serve 😁
2:01 Thanks for coming! Hahaha
Pistol Pete would slap serves. The dominant serving is more conducive to Grand Slam success
He has serve motion of Kyrgius but is much bigger.
Why is this controversial? If he can, he will. If he can't, he won't. It's up to him, isn't it? tavi.
VERY worried for tennis if everyone starts only first serving, game is gonna become a lot more boring if it becomes the norm 😢
Great having a big serve but great players also need a big brain to adapt in-match?
I feel like big serve means you will easily break the top 50
Time will show, if his shoulder will take it. Another MASSIVE server Joachim Johansson had to quit his career because of shoulder injuries.
Big Joachim Johansson got to SF at US with the 2 first serves. Blast from the past. Thanks for watching and commenting!
He's 6 8 so obviously his serves are bombs like john isner. But you didn't mention the rest of his games is inconsistent.
The best ever server is pete sampras
Agreed… GMP’s height and athleticism bring a different element. Opelka and Isner aren’t close to GMP in movement.
Sampras not even close to GMP in serving.
Not even in the same league
No.
@ what a joke! Serve is not only a question of speed but of efficiency! Sampras is the master of aces when needed. No question about that
@@rafaelodossantos4210 sampras isnt even in the same league as perricard. Stop coping
6'5 and above should only be allowed one serve
He's only going to get better...... impressive.
Sampras invented 2 first serves.
Two first serves he should win Wimbledon 🤔
Reminds me of pete sampras
He will be in the top 10 soon..
I wonder how you can even miss a first serve when you're 6'8''. Your calculation at 6:16 is wrong by the way and it is not a viable strategy if you use these numbers:
Scenario 1:
- 64% of first serves are in while he wins 79% of points --> 0.64 x 0.79 = 0.5056 = 50.56%
- To that number you need to add the point win percentage for the times he needs to hit a second serve (36% of the time). He will win 52% of those points with a 95% chance of the second serve to be in --> 0.36 x 0.95 x 0.52 = 0.17784 = 17,784%
- Service points won: 0.5056 + 0.17784 = 0,68344 = 68.344%
Scenario 2:
- 50.56% of all points played won with a first serve
- Add second serve win percentage: 0.36 x 0.6 x 0.75 = 0.162 = 16.2%
- Service points won: 0.5056 + 0.162 = 0.6676 = 66.76%
However, if he would have the exact same stats for 1st and 2nd serve he would win ~0.4176% more points. (0.36 x 0.64 x 0.79 = 0.182 --> 0.182 - 0.17784 = 0.004176)
Just put metrics on the screen so most of the world can understand.
"for those needing the metric system", you mean civilized people
Simply and only height, need to improve all the other skil to get a grand master
Well lol the dude is 6,8 so bigger reach, more energy transfer in swing.....it's just like Micheal Phelps. It's just physics.
Why oh why that background music all the time ruining this video?
Pete Sampras
He is Felix but taller lol.
Tennis is not won by the speed of your serve. It is an advantage. But not a guarantee to win a Grand Slam.
They said the same thing when Greg rusedski came along. He even made it to he finals of Wimbledon. The games were short and boring.