Good training video. Great diagnostic strategy. And no battery light with the regulator unplugged. Something we seldom check but when I was a Chrysler tech an alternator that's leaking AC voltage out of it would take out the PCM. Thanks Rich
I remember when Ford Alternators came with a connector in the alternator, with an orange tape over it saying, warranty void if removed. Always seemed to get hot and loose connection, or lose connection and get hot more accurately, lol. Chance of fire also in rare cases on the older ones. Nice work Rich!
Nice diag! It seems few people understand electronics and can’t diagnose them. Glad to see some professional diagnostics. I like your test light and how it actually places a load on the circuit.
Great video and showing steps of troubleshooting! Here we've had 1995 Ford Conversion van started eating batteries. Ford ran the sensing wire down the side of the battery and tray. Over time, wire gets eaten alive and breaks(open circuit). Cut out the bad part, soldered in repair, sealed up with shrinks, rerouted. On a 2000 Chevy Tracker, lights start blinking like the Lincoln but much faster.....replace alternator as the voltage regulator is failing.
You'r the man Rich I wish that I lived closer to you I would see if you would look at my wife's 2001 Ford Escape XLT 3.0 v6 with 182 000 miles on it. The instrument cluster lights are so dim can barely see it at night it's been to multiple shops and a couple Dealerships they replaced the dimmer switch 2 times,all of the bulbs,a new motorcraft alternator and a new battery and it's still the same as it was they told me everything checked out good and they didn't know why it is that way and to only drive it in the daytime.
Rich did a thorough diagnostic, by process of elimination troubleshooting the source of the problem before shooting the parts cannon...unlike the previous parts changer.
My Camaro has a single wire alternator and I believe that wire is for the voltage gauge. Lasted over 200k miles can’t complain 😊but it is located on the bottom drivers side 😮
In the last 30 days I have had two, less than 2 year old batteries completely fail overnight for no apparent reason.(different vehicles) My water heater failed and leaked, rotting out part of my floor, I broke my thumb slipping on ice, had a hematochezia episode that landed me in the hospital with more to come, had a kid throw a chunk of ice at my truck, lost my cat, had a tub faucet break inside a wall, and had a door handle break on my mazda. Point is, when it rains it pours. Things will stop going wrong around me soon, and your gravy work will start rolling in soon!! 💪😁👍
I had a similar issue on a t 3.8L mustang. Replaced the alternator and got it charge. Came back a week later with the same issue. Sound the trigger wire that went into the alternator and into the voltage regulator was bad. Had to depin and make a repair due to how short the wire was.
🇺🇸❇⚓🔩🔋🔌🔋🔩⚓❇🇺🇸.....[Admiral (Mechanical & Electrical Engineering) Rick this evening check]....¡The Panther engine display is a beauty I must say sir/senor!....
I agree. I use to have an old style high and low beam headlight. I wired it so that both would come on. Good load test tool. But I had to take a few weeks off due to a medical issue. When I came back. It was gone. I should have locked it up. Also. My girls on trampolines test DVD was gone.
I think pin 46 is for EGR solenoid vacuum control valve in my van I had to run a new 14 ga wire to keep the code away p1445 I think can't remember exactly
32 years experience. Got out in 2011. Now retired. The gravy work goes to the service writer(s) pets. The guys willing to find things (wrong) and upsell. Not very good. So given usually easy maintenance jobs with low risk of come backs. Besides. You know who will get stuck with their come backs.
You have a parking lot electrical Gremlin hopping from vehicle to vehicle 🤖. Good that Rich knows his stuff because you could spend hours and not find the fault 😮
I have a 2005 Lincoln Town car the Batter Dies after about 4 days but runs good I put a new battery and Alternator and looking like I have the same problem
Do you have any recommendations for ATF fluid? The shop that did my trans used Valvoline Maxlife. Old fluid was in good condition and I got a sample of it. Truck is shifting very smooth now and I’m gonna change the pan fluid 2 more times to make sure there’s a lot of fresh fluid in there. Not sure if I should use the Maxlife that they used or just order Motorcraft LV. Thank you.
Ford PCM's are nutty, My 93 f150 key on fuel pump wouldn't shut off and truck wouldn't start, you would think fuel pump or fuel pressure regulator nope pcm .... about every 10 years lol
Is a jerking motion when letting on and off the gas normal on a panther car? I have checked the motor and transmission mounts and I cannot find any cracks or failures. I’m wondering if somehow my Driveshaft U-joints are going out. Transmission shifts a little rough but not anything majorly dramatic. Transmission fluid is fine. Any suggestions Rich?
@@johnervin1474 My throttle body has been completely taken off, soaked, and cleaned with cleaning soaps/detergents as well as my intake manifold, my intake plenum, my intake hose, and my fuel rails. This was all done less than 20,000 miles ago. I know how these cars get dirty on the top side of the engine lol. I will check the fuel filter tomorrow.
I have a 2004 Lincoln Town Car putting out 19 volts.smoke came from under the dash but cars still runs. replaced instrument cluster drove 15 miles same thing happened.Still cranks and runs in the yard but if driven electrical over heats.I was told the voltage regulator is in the instrument cluster.Any idea of whats going on?
question. I have a 2007 Lincoln TC. I just put in a 320a alternator and it doesn't use the factory alternator plug. What wires can I jump to turn off battery light?
@@FordBossMe The alternator company told me on the 3 pin plug if you run a jump wire from middle pin to one of the side it would turn it off but it didn't..
I wish Everyone with a driver's license was made to watch this video....your watching a MILLION dollars worth of combined experience, equipment and ability...GOOD DIOGNOSTICS ARE NOT FREE PEOPLE....Want FREE DIOGNOSTICS and what parts you need....go to Auto-Zone in Las Vegas...and a Casino....Let me know how that works out for you....
I tell every people the same thing all the time if you have to complain about something I'm doing or if you have to critique something I'm doing maybe I'm just not the guy for you because I ain't changing what I do to appease anybody else
great deductive reasoning.with everything electrical nowdays.theres too many pins for my fragile brain to keep track of.took me years to figure out eec 4.todays vehicles may as well be rocket science to old folks who forget their phone numbers.
Ok guys help me out with a question I have a ford fusion 2017 I keep hearing different things for oil change the works (synthetic) the manual says every 10,000 miles dealership says 5,000 other people say 7,000. I guess my question is which one is more accurate for interval oil change? My car usage is 90% on highway to and from work.
5000 miles is optimal for a boosted engine that is driven on the highway often 4,000 if it's mixed around town and on the highway and 3000 if it's more around town the reason for that is you get a lot of fuel dilution and you get a lot of oil additive package breakdown with the extra oil there's a lot of throw by in that vehicle that you drive and it's a very dirty engine 5,000 miles Max, that manual that you're reading 10,000 miles is for non-severe service you are considered severe service so 5,000 miles Max
@@FordBossMe thank you I appreciate the time and advice. I hope your channel continues to grow you help out a lot of people. Im in the chicago area I know where Im taking my car if I need a big service done on my car straight to you!
Nice job! You were always known at Rush for doing solid electrical troubleshooting. You show time after time that you know how to diagnose.
Thanks Brother
Rich has repaired any electrical gremlin in a timely manner and is worth his weight in gold, and at least a raise 😊
Excellent diagnosis! Having the wiring diagrams is definitely a key tool.
Good training video. Great diagnostic strategy. And no battery light with the regulator unplugged. Something we seldom check but when I was a Chrysler tech an alternator that's leaking AC voltage out of it would take out the PCM. Thanks Rich
Great tip!
I remember when Ford Alternators came with a connector in the alternator, with an orange tape over it saying, warranty void if removed. Always seemed to get hot and loose connection, or lose connection and get hot more accurately, lol. Chance of fire also in rare cases on the older ones.
Nice work Rich!
You are the secret weapon who is brought out for the most difficult, pesky issues.
Excellent work, Rich :)
Wow, man no wonder your a master tech. That's alot of trouble shooting. 😬 not many people would of been able to figure it out. Great work man...
Nice diag!
It seems few people understand electronics and can’t diagnose them.
Glad to see some professional diagnostics.
I like your test light and how it actually places a load on the circuit.
Great video and showing steps of troubleshooting!
Here we've had 1995 Ford Conversion van started eating batteries. Ford ran the sensing wire down the side of the battery and tray. Over time, wire gets eaten alive and breaks(open circuit). Cut out the bad part, soldered in repair, sealed up with shrinks, rerouted. On a 2000 Chevy Tracker, lights start blinking like the Lincoln but much faster.....replace alternator as the voltage regulator is failing.
You'r the man Rich I wish that I lived closer to you I would see if you would look at my wife's 2001 Ford Escape XLT 3.0 v6 with 182 000 miles on it. The instrument cluster lights are so dim can barely see it at night it's been to multiple shops and a couple Dealerships they replaced the dimmer switch 2 times,all of the bulbs,a new motorcraft alternator and a new battery and it's still the same as it was they told me everything checked out good and they didn't know why it is that way and to only drive it in the daytime.
Thank you I had the same problem, this video help me out and saved a lot of money ❤
Rich did a thorough diagnostic, by process of elimination troubleshooting the source of the problem before shooting the parts cannon...unlike the previous parts changer.
Good job. Made more difficult when you're under pressure to produce billable hours.
My Camaro has a single wire alternator and I believe that wire is for the voltage gauge. Lasted over 200k miles can’t complain 😊but it is located on the bottom drivers side 😮
That PCM is in the same spot mines at in the van in the driver's side firewall
Good stuff. Thank you for your time it is appreciated
Cant say I’ve used a power probe to check them,, interesting though,, 03 , 04 started the ecm control for the alternator as you already know lol
Excellent diagnostic rich!! 👍🇨🇦
Thanks 👍
In the last 30 days I have had two, less than 2 year old batteries completely fail overnight for no apparent reason.(different vehicles)
My water heater failed and leaked, rotting out part of my floor, I broke my thumb slipping on ice, had a hematochezia episode that landed me in the hospital with more to come, had a kid throw a chunk of ice at my truck, lost my cat, had a tub faucet break inside a wall, and had a door handle break on my mazda.
Point is, when it rains it pours. Things will stop going wrong around me soon, and your gravy work will start rolling in soon!!
💪😁👍
Omg jeez
I had a similar issue on a t 3.8L mustang. Replaced the alternator and got it charge. Came back a week later with the same issue. Sound the trigger wire that went into the alternator and into the voltage regulator was bad. Had to depin and make a repair due to how short the wire was.
🇺🇸❇⚓🔩🔋🔌🔋🔩⚓❇🇺🇸.....[Admiral (Mechanical & Electrical Engineering) Rick this evening check]....¡The Panther engine display is a beauty I must say sir/senor!....
I'm at 3:00.
My Jeep did this. I was the PCM, bad capacitors.
On my Jeep, the PCM controls the regulator.
Damn, your troubleshooting skills are bang on, bud. Thought that went through my mind was an old time Voltage control module.
Fantastic job load testing the circuit, the amount of techs I watch on here that have no idea how or why to load test a circuit is wild lol
I agree. I use to have an old style high and low beam headlight. I wired it so that both would come on. Good load test tool. But I had to take a few weeks off due to a medical issue. When I came back. It was gone. I should have locked it up. Also. My girls on trampolines test DVD was gone.
Lol
I think pin 46 is for EGR solenoid vacuum control valve in my van I had to run a new 14 ga wire to keep the code away p1445 I think can't remember exactly
Yep PCM uses a ground side switch pwm driver circuit for the alt in most modern vehicles my old 96 dodge ram did it and my 98 Ford e250 does it too
I love it, considering the price of PCMs, that you methodically eliminated all the other possibilities before triggering the parts cannon.
32 years experience. Got out in 2011. Now retired. The gravy work goes to the service writer(s) pets. The guys willing to find things (wrong) and upsell. Not very good. So given usually easy maintenance jobs with low risk of come backs. Besides. You know who will get stuck with their come backs.
Brilliant work, Rich!
Very interesting and educational! 🐶🐕😊
You have a parking lot electrical Gremlin hopping from vehicle to vehicle 🤖. Good that Rich knows his stuff because you could spend hours and not find the fault 😮
I have a 2005 Lincoln Town car the Batter Dies after about 4 days but runs good I put a new battery and Alternator and looking like I have the same problem
Hope you do a video on f150 low oil pressure sending units. Like only at low rpm stopped at red lights.
Nice work 👍 I've never had to replace or repair an ECM... Can you repair the channel or Input/output? Or do you replace the whole unit?
I don't repair them so I replace them
Top notch troubleshooting.
Oh no getting duped by the bad new alternator
How was the voltage drop from the battery negative to the alternator case? And from battery negative to body ground?
There was no voltage drop, everything was good
That's great troubleshooting.
Just got to have a few of them. It's worth it.
Do you have any recommendations for ATF fluid? The shop that did my trans used Valvoline Maxlife. Old fluid was in good condition and I got a sample of it. Truck is shifting very smooth now and I’m gonna change the pan fluid 2 more times to make sure there’s a lot of fresh fluid in there. Not sure if I should use the Maxlife that they used or just order Motorcraft LV. Thank you.
I use Valvoline Max life
Ford PCM's are nutty, My 93 f150 key on fuel pump wouldn't shut off and truck wouldn't start, you would think fuel pump or fuel pressure regulator nope pcm .... about every 10 years lol
I like that probe. Whats the brand?
Power Probe Gen 3
Is a jerking motion when letting on and off the gas normal on a panther car? I have checked the motor and transmission mounts and I cannot find any cracks or failures. I’m wondering if somehow my Driveshaft U-joints are going out. Transmission shifts a little rough but not anything majorly dramatic. Transmission fluid is fine. Any suggestions Rich?
Could be u joints
@@FordBossMe I’m convinced it’s the U-joints because I can feel the jerking underneath the car near the front seats.
Throttle body is dirty or fuel filter is partially plugged
@@johnervin1474 My throttle body has been completely taken off, soaked, and cleaned with cleaning soaps/detergents as well as my intake manifold, my intake plenum, my intake hose, and my fuel rails. This was all done less than 20,000 miles ago. I know how these cars get dirty on the top side of the engine lol. I will check the fuel filter tomorrow.
I have a 2004 Lincoln Town Car putting out 19 volts.smoke came from under the dash but cars still runs. replaced instrument cluster drove 15 miles same thing happened.Still cranks and runs in the yard but if driven electrical over heats.I was told the voltage regulator is in the instrument cluster.Any idea of whats going on?
Regulator is in the alternator
Needs new alternator more than likely
question. I have a 2007 Lincoln TC. I just put in a 320a alternator and it doesn't use the factory alternator plug. What wires can I jump to turn off battery light?
No idea
I didn't think you could
@@FordBossMe The alternator company told me on the 3 pin plug if you run a jump wire from middle pin to one of the side it would turn it off but it didn't..
Good work 👍
I wish Everyone with a driver's license was made to watch this video....your watching a MILLION dollars worth of combined experience, equipment and ability...GOOD DIOGNOSTICS ARE NOT FREE PEOPLE....Want FREE DIOGNOSTICS and what parts you need....go to Auto-Zone in Las Vegas...and a Casino....Let me know how that works out for you....
It's Diagnostics with an A....damn Pell secker...talking like Bided....lol
LOL
Great video keep these types coming
Thanks! Will do!
Nice tester, wow.
WE APPRECIATE THE VIDEO BUT BASHING THOSE BATTERIES WAS FUNNY CONSIDERING THE SAME COMPANY MAKES THEM AND FOR MOST OTHER COMPANIES AS WELL
I tell every people the same thing all the time if you have to complain about something I'm doing or if you have to critique something I'm doing maybe I'm just not the guy for you because I ain't changing what I do to appease anybody else
2005 Lincoln town Car
same issue pcm regulator is bad mechanic told my neighbour it’s ok to drive with it not plugged in
Does that mean it’s true he can drive without it ?
👏👏👏👏
great deductive reasoning.with everything electrical nowdays.theres too many pins for my fragile brain to keep track of.took me years to figure out eec 4.todays vehicles may as well be rocket science to old folks who forget their phone numbers.
Great job👍
Ok guys help me out with a question I have a ford fusion 2017 I keep hearing different things for oil change the works (synthetic) the manual says every 10,000 miles dealership says 5,000 other people say 7,000. I guess my question is which one is more accurate for interval oil change? My car usage is 90% on highway to and from work.
5000 miles is optimal for a boosted engine that is driven on the highway often 4,000 if it's mixed around town and on the highway and 3000 if it's more around town the reason for that is you get a lot of fuel dilution and you get a lot of oil additive package breakdown with the extra oil there's a lot of throw by in that vehicle that you drive and it's a very dirty engine 5,000 miles Max, that manual that you're reading 10,000 miles is for non-severe service you are considered severe service so 5,000 miles Max
@@FordBossMe thank you I appreciate the time and advice. I hope your channel continues to grow you help out a lot of people. Im in the chicago area I know where Im taking my car if I need a big service done on my car straight to you!
Full synthetic only...
I have an issue with my town car 2004 the lights are surging and dash wont work. can you help me?
Sounds like you have a bad battery or something's wrong with the charging system
I have grand marquis 2001 the volt at 13.1 i replace battery and alternator same thing and the alternator plug on or off same thing also😢
When I plug on the alternator drop to 13,0 volt
could this be the reason why voltage drops while driving?
Could yes
I got a new PCM put it in my voltage is back correct again
It’s my wire harness
someone probably fried something trying to jump start it
I’m going threw this right now not sure if hat it is
I have a 2007 Lincoln Town Car I would like to sell for scrap metal. Do you a place close to 32347 area in Florida?
Rain Man Ray Hit Him Up
The gravy work goes to the hacks hoping they won t screw it up. Saw it for 2 decades working at a Chevy dealer
Those two guys talking about shitting themselves lol
7:45
How did it show 13.8 volts, and it was not hooked up?
When you unhooked the control side from the computer the alternator takes control of itself and regulates itself that's how they're designed
@@FordBossMe Thanks!
Ground cable rotten at block common
Yeah that's not the issue with this one
And update to the nipodenso alternator 08 up cut off the pigtail
It also doesn't explain the issue with the command and control circuit so that rules it out