Scylla | Epic the Musical Full Song Animatic

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • My official fully animated song EVER!! And why not have it from Epic the Musical! It took me about 2 weeks to complete and honestly I’m pretty happy about it! Of course, if I decided to spend a year on the project it would be smoother with the characters looking the same the entire time lol. But for now I’m really happy that I just finished it! As one of my favorite artists says, “Finished, not perfect.”
    I’m not a professional animator by any means, but I just want to become better at it! If you know any great animators here on RUclips, please let me know if the comments!
    Hope you enjoy the video! Let me know what you would like to see next!
    Also, a HUGE thanks for the 3000 subscribers!! I started my RUclips journey a little over a month ago now and it’s CRAZY how far I’ve come because of all of you guys! My goal is to become a full time RUclipsr within the year. I want to create more animatics like this one and publish my original story you can find in my shorts! I’m also open to the idea of tutorials. I’m in it for the long haul!! So please share this vid with any of your Epic the Musical friends! You all are the best!
    Animatic artist: ‪@Gentledragon_art‬
    Music by: ‪@JayHerrans‬
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Комментарии • 350

  • @Gentledragon_art
    @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +198

    I’d love to chat!! Feel free to comment any questions or parts you liked! Thanks for watching! 🎉

    • @A_Mellow_Axolotl346
      @A_Mellow_Axolotl346 Месяц назад +7

      I’m sorry but watching this in 2x speed made me cackle so much. (Great job btw!)

    • @tumblingartist
      @tumblingartist Месяц назад +6

      I love the part where Eurylocus is on his knees and Odysseus turns away with tears-they called eachother brothers and this is a deep painful betrayal, you capture that so well!!

    • @GoldenDreemurr
      @GoldenDreemurr Месяц назад +2

      I loved the whole animatic!! I was curious on what program you use to draw and edit everything together? I've wanted to do animatics for a while, but I can't find a program to pull the whole video together, can you tell me what you use?

    • @James-EPICFAN
      @James-EPICFAN Месяц назад +1

      ​@A_Mellow_Axolotl346 it sounds like a pop song now😂

    • @ProtoX2011
      @ProtoX2011 Месяц назад +2

      Jorge needs to watch

  • @infingirl8488
    @infingirl8488 Месяц назад +1555

    I LOVED the Scylla reveal. With the silhouette, you go "oh, that's Scylla," but then it zooms out even more and you're just met with the shocking realization that she is SO much bigger and terrifying!!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +163

      Yeah… I drew her and I’m like “why not more?” 😂

    • @edrian_4043
      @edrian_4043 Месяц назад +71

      i was like 'Oh damn' then right after ' OH DAMN!'

    • @Victoria-_
      @Victoria-_ Месяц назад +5

      IK

    • @EPIC.Bee.764
      @EPIC.Bee.764 Месяц назад +2

      Frr

    • @wiilov
      @wiilov Месяц назад +15

      "Ooooooh, this is the toooongue, and the whole thing is the...wyrm....
      RUN FOR YOUR LIFE"

  • @willonilla
    @willonilla Месяц назад +328

    *six not-Euryochus dudes hold the torches*
    Me: huh ok
    *Eury picks up a torch*
    *Ody tackles him to safety*
    Me: SCREAMING

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +36

      Your comment made me chuckle 😂😂😂 thanks for watching!!

  • @I_will_have_an_emu_army
    @I_will_have_an_emu_army Месяц назад +848

    I love the turmoil shown in and between Eurylochus and Odysseus, it makes them feel so much more human. Especially with Odysseus saving Eurylochus, it's almost like the old him is still there. And though he's more than willing to cut some losses if it means he'll be able to get home, Odysseus still cares, to a degree. I guess there's just some things you can't shake, and this portrayal of their friendships fraying but not yet snapping is beautiful.

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +58

      Thank you so much for watching!! I love your thoughts about Odysseus and I TOTALLY agree!

  • @PuccaLover15
    @PuccaLover15 Месяц назад +399

    This animatic sums up what I thought perfectly!
    In Suffering, as soon as Siren Penelope said “the lair of Scylla”, his face (and the music) dropped. He knew about Scylla and the price that would need to be paid to get through.
    The guy was already stressed, scared, and upset about what he was about to do, so add that to Eurylochus’s confession over the fact he was the reason they weren’t home now because he went against his captain/king/brother’s order, anger was added to his already negative feelings.
    He didn’t want to sacrifice more of his men, but he felt like he didn’t have a choice. He’s going to do anything at this point to get back to his home and family.
    But here, his regrets are clear! He doesn’t want to do this! His heart breaks for the men he is knowingly sacrificing for them to get through. And when he realizes Eurylochus is about to be taken, all that anger he felt is gone and saves him. Amazing!!!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +32

      Thank you so much for your comment!!! It was tricky trying to show the characters history from past songs but I’m so happy that it worked!! I love the song Suffering so much, I really want to work on that one’s next so stay tuned!!

  • @artsymarsy8480
    @artsymarsy8480 Месяц назад +119

    agreeing with others that Odysseus saving Eurylochus makes things cut deeper... especially leading into the next song. Eury is already smart enough to put the dots together that the torches were the marker of sacrifice, but this would only confirm his answer before he even asks the question

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +11

      I’m so happy you liked my version! I know it isn’t canon, but I feel like sing Homer’s Odyssey is already missing so much detailed information, might as well take some creative liberty! Thanks for watching!! It literally means so much!!

  • @SecretWoodIsTaken
    @SecretWoodIsTaken Месяц назад +1398

    That is a different take love it! It makes sense odysseus cares for Eurylochus and won't let him die. Like dude is literally married to odysseus's sister

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +203

      I’m so happy you enjoyed it!! And I totally forgot about that 😂🫣

    • @tumblingartist
      @tumblingartist Месяц назад +164

      YEA!! Even tho I love the common interpretation (esp with the “official” animation during the livestream), I really love this version where Eurylocus gets saved by Odysseus rather than survives by chance

    • @foolslayer9416
      @foolslayer9416 Месяц назад +32

      Eurylochus was an idiot, Ody's sister can always find another man.

    • @kristoffer6747
      @kristoffer6747 Месяц назад +31

      This makes Mutiny all the more painful though

    • @Muffinschaos
      @Muffinschaos Месяц назад +35

      @@foolslayer9416he wasn’t any more of an idiot than Odysseus. He said his name to the Cyclopes, and didn’t apologise to a literal god, he was kind of dumb. If he hadn’t said his name then he would’ve got home safely.

  • @secretbluegirl
    @secretbluegirl Месяц назад +220

    I loved how you portrayed Eurylochus & Odysseus relationship. Eury looks heartbroken in his confession, like the betrayal he committed was devastating him, & then Odysseus walking away & leaving him on his knees only to show that he is also crying. And then saving Eurylochus because that’s still his brother oh god, this just makes the imminent mutiny all the more tragic

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +14

      I love your comment! These two characters are basically brothers, and I really wanted to show that. Mutiny is definitely a tough song and I’m excited to animate it sometime soon! Again thank you so much! 🫶

  • @komerverrinder7812
    @komerverrinder7812 Месяц назад +226

    Love Scylla's design in this, there's almost 3 separate layers of her and its awesome. I also love how much emotion the tears show by just being on there faces, and Eurylochus literally getting on his knees and begging for forgiveness as tears run down his face and Odysseus starts crying himself realizing what this means was just peak ngl. Also beautiful art style, keep this up amazing work!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +9

      Thank you so much!! I’m so happy you liked it!! I’m planning to work on Suffering next! So stay tuned!

  • @liliflwrs
    @liliflwrs Месяц назад +138

    I love that Eurylochus is left on his knees when Odysseus walks away angry and hurt from his actions, especially after Odysseus pulls his hand away which really just adds to the pain! Also when Odysseus saves Eurylochus from Syclla im sure that it would make munity so much more painful for Odysseus because even as upset as he was he still saved his friend, and technically brother in law, from her cause he still has some part of him that cares for Eurylochus. It truly just makes that betrayal and act of treason (Odysseus being the King of Ithaca and all-) so much more hurtful! Amazing work!!!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +13

      Thank you so much!! Ody and Eurylochus are some of my favorite duo characters. And I didn’t want to ruin their relationship, I feel like they have a deep brotherhood for each other that is slowly becoming broken.
      Thank you so much for your comment!! And thanks for watching! 🫶

    • @liliflwrs
      @liliflwrs Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Gentledragon_artWelcome so much! I have to agree they are my favorite duo characters too, their relationship is truly so special and while seeds out doubt have always been on the side of Eurylochus with Odysseus and tension has been there for awhile. I think after losing his best friend, he can't lose someone else he trusts immensely till Zeus comes in to hand down the punishment for Helios. It's definitely being slowly broken :(
      Of course! I hope you continue making videos, you're a wonderful artists and I'll happily continue to support your work!

  • @annalisebrowncollins3278
    @annalisebrowncollins3278 Месяц назад +326

    I think this is the first one iv seen where Ody saves him and I love that! He totally would, mad and hurt as he is... you are so talented ❤❤❤

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +42

      Thank you so much!! I was actually super worried about making the part of Ody saving his friend because I’ve never seen it done before and I didn’t know if other people would like it. So I’m so happy that you liked it!! 🫶 you just made my day!!

    • @annalisebrowncollins3278
      @annalisebrowncollins3278 Месяц назад +11

      @Gentledragon_art aww that makes me feel good. It really is amazing. Your idea and the talent behind it. Don't get me wrong The other ones I've seen are amazing too, but I don't think he would have chanced him being taken and if he saw him with a Torch he totally would've intervened.
      I hope Jorge sees this and you get all the views it totally deserves 💜

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +8

      @@annalisebrowncollins3278oh my goodness, you’re so sweet! I am really happy you enjoyed it!! And that would be a CRAZY day if Jorge saw this 😂😅

    • @zuziiice8907
      @zuziiice8907 Месяц назад +6

      @@Gentledragon_art it would make sense and would add to mutiny with how heartbroken eurylocus will be when he puts it together that odysseus sacrificed his comrades just to get home faster.

    • @Patroclus-n5r
      @Patroclus-n5r Месяц назад

      YOUVE SEEN OTHERS ?!!?! WHEREEEEEE

  • @melmouse67
    @melmouse67 Месяц назад +20

    this is a fascinating take!!!! we all know that eurylochus realizes what's going on by the end of this song, and that creates the tension that leads into mutiny, but with the way you had odysseus saving eurylochus, this was the first time i've seen an interpretation where they both know what they both know, and neither of them could deny it if they wanted to. it's so interesting!!! on the one hand, it shows odysseus still caring deeply for eurylochus, not completely lost to getting himself home to penelope. but on the other hand, picking and choosing who's allowed to be a casualty of his reunion with penelope is somehow worse than turning his back and letting the sacrifices be blindly distributed. also, i loved the visual detail of the crew with the oars being on a physically lower level than odysseus and eurylochus. i don't know if i could articulate why, but it's striking. it's that passive, wary watching of odysseus and the way he's been sliding in a worrying direction. you get the sense that they feel less exposed down there, almost protected... but from their own captain. fantastic work, thanks for sharing!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +2

      Oh my goodness thank you so much for your comment!! I’m so happy that you enjoyed my video and that even though my video may be different from others it still makes sense! 😂🙃 thank you for your support!! Literally means the world! 🫶

  • @jennycochran864
    @jennycochran864 Месяц назад +22

    ODYSSEUS DIVING IN TO SAVE EURYLOCHUS????
    And your Scylla design is so amazing wow. I need to go rewatch this several times now

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +2

      Oh my goodness thank you so much!!! I’m so happy you enjoyed it! And you’re so kind to want to watch it again, it truly means so much to me to know that I did good with this animatic!! 🫶

  • @theoriginalmissantarctica
    @theoriginalmissantarctica Месяц назад +45

    This is the first animatic I've seen that has Odysseus show emotion over the men he's about to sacrifice, and I LOVE IT!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +4

      Thank you so much!! It’s been my goal to focus on emotions of characters, I’m happy that it’s working!!

  • @rjmanary4087
    @rjmanary4087 Месяц назад +51

    I think as far as animated versions of Scylla I have seen go, appearance-wise, this one is definitely the most terrifying

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +5

      Hurray! 😂 thanks for watching!!

    • @rjmanary4087
      @rjmanary4087 Месяц назад

      ​@@Gentledragon_art Your welcome (bows)

  • @LMckil12
    @LMckil12 Месяц назад +13

    Amazing! I love the addition of Ody consciously saving Eury - "There's no length I wouldn't go if it was you I had to save,"
    Also your design for Scylla is fantastic!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +4

      I was thinking of that line EXACTLY! Ody has a heart, especially for Eury. Even though this song is a step closer for Ody becoming a monster, he’s not quite there yet. Hence, mutiny hits harder for me having these visuals. Thanks for watching and I’m so happy you enjoyed it!! 🫶

  • @izzyreuf8921
    @izzyreuf8921 Месяц назад +5

    Oh I really like this interpretation of the song where Odysseus saves Eurylochus... makes his betrayal in Mutiny all the more devastating

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Thank you so much!! I’m really happy you enjoyed it! 🫶

  • @belvenn
    @belvenn Месяц назад +26

    WOAAAH LOOK AT THAT SCYLLA DESIGN !! MY JAW DROPPED

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +2

      Oh thank you!!! 🫶🫶🫶 this means so much to me!!

  • @meganmay5277
    @meganmay5277 Месяц назад +42

    You're really good with expressions also you did something really unique and have Odysseus push Eurylochus out of the way

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you!! And I was really trying to figure out something new that I hadn’t seen before. So I’m happy it stood out! 😂🙌

    • @meganmay5277
      @meganmay5277 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@Gentledragon_art I actually also really like the design of Scylla she's both beautiful and terrifying

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +2

      @@meganmay5277aww thanks! I had to redesign her SO. MANY. TIMES. 😂

    • @meganmay5277
      @meganmay5277 Месяц назад +1

      @@Gentledragon_art Honestly, I'm not shocked just because of how massive you made her

    • @meganmay5277
      @meganmay5277 Месяц назад

      ​@@Gentledragon_artAlso, I shared it to the Epic, the musical discord

  • @JackdawMori9510
    @JackdawMori9510 Месяц назад +5

    You took Jorge’s description of Scylla, absolutely R A N with it and I’m in love!!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      😂😂😂 I know you’re a true fan when you see the resemblance from his description!! Thank you so much for watching!! 🫶

    • @JackdawMori9510
      @JackdawMori9510 Месяц назад

      @@Gentledragon_art I know the lyrics to most of the future songs from snippets and showings that Jorge has posted… you could say I’m too invested in this musical 😅
      Your skills are so good how CAN’T I watch them!

  • @CyberX-X
    @CyberX-X Месяц назад +37

    YOUR SCYLLA LOOKS AWESOME!!! 😮

  • @tetragd207
    @tetragd207 Месяц назад +9

    The way you showed Eurylochus' guilt was good. Also the Scylla design was so amazing, making her in a giant creature. I find it interesting how Odysseus saves Eurylochus because it was such a unique take.

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      I’m so happy you enjoyed the video!! I really wanted to try something new with this song that I haven’t seen. I always saw Odysseus numb and angry all the time in this song, but I wanted to keep his heart. And the best way I thought I could show that was through saving his brother in law. But anyways, thanks for watching! 🫶

  • @alexwong3739
    @alexwong3739 Месяц назад +5

    1:41 There are no words to describe the level of ADRENALINE i felt seeing this exact shot! Scylla is so terrifying omggggg

  • @MrBaddamobs
    @MrBaddamobs Месяц назад +5

    Holy Jesus, that's one of the most terrifying takes on Scylla I've seen; her human body being the 'tongue' of and even bigger ""human"" body is trippy as hell, that's great stuff! Also, the expressions in this are on point. Odysseus flits between hardened resolve and VERY clear guilt, shown best when he saved Eurylochus. Even in a situation where he knows not all of his men are making it, him wanting to save the man that's like his brother despite the no doubt complex emotions running through the situation (Eurylochus could be said to a pretty big reason they've had to take this route to start with by opening the wind bad, so Odysseus blaming him wouldn't be beyond doubt) is good stuff. And I think it works in a dramatic sense, since it leads into Mutiny really well, with all these emotions reaching a fever pitch. Great stuff!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Oh my goodness thank you so much!!! I love that you’ve pointed out your favorite parts and why. It helps me know what I need to focus on for future videos. I really tried to make this song as realistic (emotionally) as possible. And I’m happy it came across the right way! Thanks for watching and more animatics of Epic coming soon!!

  • @phoenixvalentina3741
    @phoenixvalentina3741 24 дня назад +4

    I love how no matter the animatic everyones designs of Scylla really nail home that "terrifying monster that is impossible to fight". Sure the Crew get on Ody later for not fighting but is was mentioned by the Sirens that even Poseidon himself is scared of her and in the original Odyssey, Scylla cannot be fought. She lives on top of an UNREACHABLE CLIFF and if you sail to close she eats you (and if you sail too far away Charybdis kills you.). She is also said to be an IMMORTAL MONSTER. EVEN HERC COULDN'T KILL HER AND HE IS KNOWN FOR KILLING IMMORTAL THINGS OR AT THE VERY LEAST FIGHITNG IMMORTAL POWERFUL THINGS. This is one man and his crew of like 40 peeps.

  • @kylehenkel
    @kylehenkel Месяц назад +6

    Me: oh, that Scylla isn’t that scary.
    -2 seconds later-
    Me: OH!! THAT SCYLLA IS MORTIFYING!! Holy s***!!!

  • @Patroclus-n5r
    @Patroclus-n5r Месяц назад +5

    I love the way you show Eurylochus apologizing to Odysseus. This is one of few that I’ve seen him apologize and the way you make it makes it feel so real ✨🙏✨

  • @SeleneRoseRM
    @SeleneRoseRM Месяц назад +3

    Your art style is so clean and pretty, it reminds me of sculptures in a way

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Thank you so much!! That really does mean a lot to me 🫶

  • @alyssafigliano3994
    @alyssafigliano3994 Месяц назад +2

    Firstly, I LOVE all the character designs in this, especially Scylla! Not only is she a woman who became a monster, but her humanity is visually devoured by making her human form the luring tongue in the mouth of a much greater beast! Brilliant! But what really gets me is Odysseus tackling Eurylochus and knocking the torch out of his hand. It goes to show what I think a lot of people are missing - that despite his betrayal Odysseus sees Eurylochus as his brother and given the choice he would sacrifice any of the crew over him.
    Even if he'd chose to sacrifice them all for Penelope.

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you for your comment!! I’m so happy you enjoyed the video! I’m currently working on Suffering and almost half way done with it! So stay tuned!

  • @Apotheris
    @Apotheris 5 дней назад +1

    This with suffering is so good. He's so hesitant in suffering to sacrifice his men, but when he hears Eurylochus's confession, he becomes even more determined to push through. In the end though, he doesn't want to sacrifice Eurylochus, pushing him out of the way, like oml

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  5 дней назад

      I’m so happy you enjoyed the video!!! It’s been fun to have a little bit of creative liberty. I know everything I’ve done isn’t canon, but it’s been a blast!

  • @PurpleRageLP
    @PurpleRageLP Месяц назад +2

    Odysseus saving Eurylochus is so great. It puts suspicion that Ody KNEW what was going to happen and makes the future betrayal even worse.

  • @dragonfly._.doodles
    @dragonfly._.doodles Месяц назад +2

    THERE IS SO MUCH ABOUT THIS THAT I LOVE! I always enjoy people’s different interpretations of how Odysseus feels about sacrificing his men. and even though it’s not my personal interpretation, it’s really cute how he saves Eury from Scylla, it still shows his ruthlessness through his disparity and how he sees certain members of his crew being worth more to him, when Eury saw them all as family and even losing one was devastating to him

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      @@dragonfly._.doodles thank you so much for watching!! And I’m happy you liked it, I felt that it was important for Ody to still have a heart.

    • @princesscutie1027
      @princesscutie1027 6 дней назад

      favoritism

  • @snailldragon
    @snailldragon Месяц назад +5

    This is absolutely amazing. I adore your Scylla design(the goat like horns are a great touch). And the amount of detail here is so smooth. The scene where Odyssey’s walking away from Eurylochus is so good….

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Scylla was tricky to design 😂 thank you so much for watching!! I’m happy you liked it 😁

  • @ElenaMit
    @ElenaMit 25 дней назад +2

    Wow!
    What I really liked in your animatic is that Odysseus saves Eurylochus. In other animatics it feels like Odysseus no longer cares for him.
    I like both approaches but I really enjoyed finally seeing the first taking form in your video!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  25 дней назад

      Thank you so much for watching! I did notice that Ody just becomes numb in a lot of animatics. Which isn't bad, but personally felt that Ody wouldn't switch so quickly. That it would take time for him for change. I see it the most in "Thunder Bringer," when Ody is almost in tears saying "I have to see her." and it still hurts him to choose Penelope over Eury.

  • @YouveBeenMegged
    @YouveBeenMegged Месяц назад +1

    Ok but the movements are so good, and your expressions are amazing!
    I love the moment the silhouette pans out and you see just how _massive_ Scylla really is. She looks just like Jay’s description of how he imagines Scylla, too!
    I think this is the first animatic I’ve seen where Odysseus _actively saves_ Eurylochus, instead of him just dropping his torch, and it’s such a heart-wrenching take because despite what Eury just confessed, despite everything that’s happened, Ody still _cares,_ and yet this act is almost certainly the thing that clues Eury in to the fact that Ody knew the torchbearers would be killed, leading to him turning on him in Mutiny, and Ody probably recognizes that, and _that’s_ what’ll finally sell him on the “ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves” take, and it’s so tragic! Once again, mercy is his undoing… 😭
    Ok I’m done rambling. Wonderful job!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      I love your rambles!! I’m so happy that my different take (Ody saving Eury) has been accepted. I know it is t cannon, but as I was animating it felt so weird to just have Ody in the background doing nothing. It felt flat with emotion if that makes sense. So I decided to change things up and I’m happy it worked!! 🎉
      Thanks for watching!! And stay tuned for Suffering to come out next!

  • @errantstars8294
    @errantstars8294 25 дней назад +1

    Holy shit! This was amazing! One of my favourite Scylla designs that I've seen. With everything you've done in this animatic, anything you do with Mutiny is just going to grind what's left of my broken heart into dust. The relationship between Odysseus and Eurylochus here is just so - I honestly can't put it into words because you've made my brain into mush afksldjgfksdflsdf

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  25 дней назад

      Sorry I made your brain mush.... but I'm happy you enjoyed the video! lol

  • @OliviaWoons23
    @OliviaWoons23 Месяц назад +1

    Wow, I love this so much! You show the emotion between Ody and Eury amazingly! Very well done!

  • @RoseGamerC
    @RoseGamerC Месяц назад +1

    I love how if appears that Scylla is taking revenge for the sirens deaths especially with the line "choke on your blood"

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Def spooky… 🫣 Scylla’s lyrics are so well written

  • @Victoria-_
    @Victoria-_ Месяц назад +3

    Scylla’s voice is INCREDIBLE! I love your art style too, Odysseus’s expressions were amazing

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Isn’t her voice AMAZING!?!? Love this musical so much and it isn’t even fully published yet! Thank you for watching and happy you liked it!!

  • @claran3616
    @claran3616 26 дней назад +1

    1:36
    WHAT. IN THE EVERLOVING. FUCK! Is that nightmare fuel? God that’s awesome. That’s the most bat crap insane Scylla design I’ve ever seen!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  26 дней назад +1

      Thanks!! 😂 I designed her at midnight so that says something about nightmares 😂😳

  • @pantrovert-x8921
    @pantrovert-x8921 Месяц назад +2

    Scylla's design is INSANE. I will be thinking about it for the next several days. Thank you very much.

  • @benincatsa
    @benincatsa 18 дней назад +1

    Nicely done! I assume you saw Jorge's short about what he envisioned Scylla would be? Because if not, then boy howdy, you gotta get in contact with the man, because you are STRAIGHT UP channeling his vision.

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  18 дней назад +1

      It’s funny because I was making the video and trying to design Scylla and got STUMPED. So I started scrolling RUclips and his video came up, seriously helped a TON. 😂

  • @heyits_hai
    @heyits_hai Месяц назад

    I LOVVEEE THIS INTERPRETATION OMG ODYSSEUS SAVING EUROLYCHUS is such a choice and I'm obsessed with it. This whole animatic is so well done and gorgeous, all your character designs are fabulous, ESPECIALLY SCYLLA'S. SO SO GOOD!!!

  • @tomeeshahaller4226
    @tomeeshahaller4226 Месяц назад +1

    I really hope Jorge sees this video, it's so good.

  • @dogebrando8902
    @dogebrando8902 Месяц назад +2

    2:00 this was absolutely terrifying in my opinion.

  • @TBG1
    @TBG1 24 дня назад

    We love a good scylla design! Also, like everyone else pointed out, I love the way you depicted ody saving eury, instead of him just accepting the loss and eury trying to save their friends. Awesome

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  23 дня назад +1

      Thank you so much for watching! I’m really happy that you liked the Scylla design, she took me a LONG TOME to figure out. if you look at my sketchbook, I have pages and pages of scribbles 😂

  • @sumomo2236
    @sumomo2236 Месяц назад

    oh wow. Eurylochus not realizing and Odysseus haing to save him was like a punch to the spleen, amazing

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Thanks!! So happy you liked the video. 🫶 feel free to share with your Epic friends!!

  • @BailyTheQueen
    @BailyTheQueen Месяц назад +1

    Scylla gave me chills! I love this so much. I feel like I was there!

  • @deaththegirl3371
    @deaththegirl3371 Месяц назад +2

    I love how Huge Scylla is, it's like Woah
    Also, that the screams match up with the deaths, though I always have trouble telling

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      About the deaths, it was a struggle getting the timing right 😂😂 also thanks for watching!! It means a ton!! 🫶

    • @deaththegirl3371
      @deaththegirl3371 Месяц назад

      @@Gentledragon_art Thanks for the amazing work feeding this fandom, I think this is my favourite Scylla animatic ngl, you're art style is amazing!!!

  • @Miikaaaa
    @Miikaaaa Месяц назад +1

    I LITERARY WENT "OH SHIT" WHEN I SAW THE SCYLLA REVEAL YOOO ANOTHER GREAT EPIC THE MUSICAL ANIMATIC

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! 🫶 More animatics coming soon!! Currently working on Suffering!!

  • @acupajoe
    @acupajoe Месяц назад +1

    So… my friends are literally the coolest ❤ THIS IS INSANE

  • @lnel6211
    @lnel6211 Месяц назад +2

    THIS IS BEAUTIFUL OMGGGG

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you!! 🫶🫶 that literally just made my day!!

    • @lnel6211
      @lnel6211 Месяц назад

      @@Gentledragon_art 🫶🏾💕💕💕

  • @potofle
    @potofle Месяц назад

    The artwork for this is absolutely gorgeous, I love how you portray Scylla! I gotta say though, Odysseus knocking Eury out of the way makes the rest of the saga SO much more painful...so of course it's going on the "this interpretation is canon to me no matter what" list 😭

  • @NinjaAce463-pm7dk
    @NinjaAce463-pm7dk Месяц назад +2

    this is one of the best animations of scylla that i've seen so far

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      That just made my day 😭😭 I’m so happy it was worth making it!!

  • @sananaryon4061
    @sananaryon4061 Месяц назад

    Love your Scylla design. The classic with just the many heads and the woman's upper body is good but this really feels like a monster even Poseidon himself would fear

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      So happy you liked her! I tried to stay close to the lore as much as I could, but also taking some creative liberties. Thanks for watching!! 🫶

  • @manuhthecreators298
    @manuhthecreators298 Месяц назад

    HOLYYYYYY I LOVE THE HUMANITY IN ODY!!! The fact that he saved Eurylochus, jeez, that's special. Congrats!! You're so talented! 🤧🤧

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      OH MY GOODNESS THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I’m seriously so happy you liked it!! Comments like yours makes me want to keep working on more animatics!

    • @manuhthecreators298
      @manuhthecreators298 Месяц назад

      I'm happy to make you feel this way! Keep going, please, keep making art! 🤧💛

  • @SonderConstruct
    @SonderConstruct Месяц назад +1

    The expressions are just so good! Plus that Scylla design is excellent as well!
    I also appreciate Odysseus saving Eurylochus despite a lot of other animatics I've seen have Eurylochus as a torchbearer initially, with Ody trying to get rid of him because of the wind bag. Amazing work!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you so much for your comment!! Literally just made my day! 🫶

  • @xendordawnburst9969
    @xendordawnburst9969 Месяц назад

    This is the first Animatic where I've seen Odysseus save Eurylochus from Scylla! Others either have Eurylochus either drop the torch, or hand it off to someone else! Nice to think Odysseus still cares about Eurylochus instead of setting him up as bait.

  • @Itz_Cherri3
    @Itz_Cherri3 Месяц назад +1

    Omg your Scylla design has to be my favorite!!! This is so good!! I am in LOVE!!!!! 🤍

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you thank you!!! She took forever to design 😭😂

  • @krishnarenae80
    @krishnarenae80 Месяц назад

    Every time I see your work I’m amazed, and when I saw that Scylla design my stomach DROPPED. Absolutely terrifying, fantastic work

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Thank you so much!! I’m so happy you liked her design, she took me a while 😂

  • @anagramm9242
    @anagramm9242 Месяц назад

    Gosh, Eurylochus broke my heart in this animatic. Like. I have always loved him. From the very beginning. And you did him beautiful justice. His and Odysseus's interactions are so filled with their shared past and their affection for each other and the moment Eurylochus realized that Odysseus was using the man carrying the torches as baits/sacrifices and immediately snatched one and Odysseus seeing it and jumping in to save him and Eurylochus begging for forgiveness in the beginning and Odysseus in the beginning crying about what he is about to do (and knowing about Mutiny and Thunderbringer) and and and
    (I just love it. This is by far my favourite animatic of this song so far)
    (I will now go on and pretend that Mutiny and Thunderbringer don't exist and somehow everyone lives Happily Ever After)

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      I really wish there was a happy ending for these two too. 😭😭 thanks for your comment and I’m so happy you enjoyed the video!!! 🙌

  • @josie5165
    @josie5165 Месяц назад

    Holy crap the ending where the other guy got eaten by Scylla because Odysseus pushed the man with the torch out of the way. And the guy wasn't even carrying a torch made me gasp. Talk about guilt, holy shit!! This whole animatic was excellent!!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      I’m so happy you liked it!!! It was seriously so much fun to make this and I’m really excited for you guys to see Suffering next!

  • @LilDevyl17
    @LilDevyl17 Месяц назад

    Love this! Holy! Even if it's just 2.5 minutes, you put all the emotions in the little details. The kneeling down on the, "Please forgive me?!" Not saying anything just letting the hand go and walking away with a tear coming down. At the end, Syllia says, "You and I are not so different we do what we do to survive" showing the silhouette of Syllia in the eyes of Odysseus and him singing softly with her, "You and I."
    And the little details in the fights make it quick but simultaneously terrifying and emotional! OH! My Whumpt/Angst Writer in me is just screaming, with joy! This is the physical view we Writers try to convey in our writing during Whumptober!
    *Chef's Kiss* to all the Artists! Such Talent you all have!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Thank you so much for your comment!!! It makes me so happy you enjoyed it!! I’m really happy how this one turned out and I’m excited to do more!

  • @lumpynoir
    @lumpynoir Месяц назад +1

    I LOVE YOUR DESIGN FOR SCYLLA

  • @saltysierrena
    @saltysierrena Месяц назад

    Your art is so beautiful! Love the details a lot~ Also, Scylla is GORGEOUS

  • @SushimiZucchini
    @SushimiZucchini Месяц назад

    I love your scylla design! I haven’t seen anyone else give her horns before- makes her look a bit like a tiefling!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      And we all love tieflings!! Thanks for you comment! 🫶

  • @snowyowl2784
    @snowyowl2784 Месяц назад +1

    This is incredible, it really makes Scylla feel like an unstoppable force and a gatekeeper. Maybe I'm just a sucker for hot monster women though

  • @TakatoMifumi
    @TakatoMifumi Месяц назад

    Absolutely incredible Scylla reveal! My skin was crawling at the gorgeous monstrosity of her. That would give anyone nightmares to encounter! And having Odysseus tackle Eurylochus at the end was a take I had never considered, but so, so completely beautiful and heartbreaking. From the desperate "I can't lose you, too!" Odysseus is screaming inside to the horrible, dawning understanding on Eurylochus' face that there was more here going on than he first understood...ah, brilliance!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Aww thank you for your comment!! It really means a lot that you enjoyed it! Feel free to share with your Epic friends!!

  • @DCTurtleTrekki777
    @DCTurtleTrekki777 Месяц назад

    chills! absolute chills! I could feel Ody's pain... aw man

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Thank you so much for watching!!! So happy you liked it!!

  • @Lizzieartsz
    @Lizzieartsz Месяц назад +3

    I love this sm omg ❤❤ The art style is so amazing and the animatic is very beautiful
    Also, love Ody saving Eury in this version
    (Also, im sorry for any mistakes, english is not my first language)

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Oh my goodness thank you so much!! And I couldn’t even tell that English is not your first language. You’re doing great!

  • @0liverarts0
    @0liverarts0 Месяц назад

    I think you made the most terrifying Scylla and fulfilled Jay's vision

  • @michaelpenkalski3287
    @michaelpenkalski3287 Месяц назад +1

    This is my favorite Scylla so far!

  • @redjackal8169
    @redjackal8169 Месяц назад

    The second death was amazing. I really enjoyed this animatic

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Thank you so much!! My Suffering Animatic is coming out in just an hour, so stay tuned!

  • @jhonmimoya4824
    @jhonmimoya4824 Месяц назад

    OOOOOHHHH SIIIIIIII!! TENEMOS ANIMATIC COMPLETO! Estuve esperando por esto y estuvo muy bueno, 10/10 🎉💖

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you so much!!!! I’m so happy you liked it!! More animatics coming asap! 🫶

  • @witheringoblivion
    @witheringoblivion Месяц назад

    first time i’ve seen ody actually save eury from scylla! i always imagined that eury had a torch but ended up passing it to someone else, like ody had intended to sacrifice eury after his confession.
    but here, eury didn’t have a torch from the start and ody saved him when he *did* pick up a torch. and i absolutely LOVE it!!! i’d imagine it would be difficult for ody to sacrifice his men knowingly, even after becoming the monster. despite eury’s betrayal, ody still does care to some degree (since eury is his brother-in-law after all) and he was willing to sacrifice some men, but not eury.
    sorry for the rambling i’m just really in love with your animatic and the portrayal of the characters 😭😭

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      I love your rambles!!! Don’t even worry about it! I’m honestly so grateful that people like you have already given me so much support. I love reading comments like yours and it just makes my day!! Thanks for watching! 🫶

  • @mandersie4738
    @mandersie4738 Месяц назад

    Ohmygod you had no right to have Eurylochus on his knees holding Odysseus' hand as he is begging for forgiveness HOW DARE YOU.
    This was AMAZING! Fantastic job, great interpretation of the song!! I like your style!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you so much!! I’m so happy you enjoyed it! 🫶

  • @k92littlered
    @k92littlered Месяц назад

    Scylla's design in *chef's kiss* What a GREAT animation. Loved the expressions.

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you!! I am also happy with Scylla’s design (took me FOREVER). Thanks for watching!! 🫶

    • @k92littlered
      @k92littlered Месяц назад

      @@Gentledragon_art Of course! Thanks so much for making it. 😁

  • @TheSmoolio
    @TheSmoolio Месяц назад

    YOOOOO this looks awesome!!
    I love how you drew Scylla, keep up the great work :D

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Thank you so much for watching!!! More videos coming out ASAP!

  • @ahmedabdulle16
    @ahmedabdulle16 Месяц назад

    Fucking love your interpretation. I never understood how ody could instantly turn on his first mate and brother in law

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Right!? I was listening to the music and watching a couple animatics and it never made sense to me that he would just become 100% bad in one song. I’m so happy you liked the video! Stay tuned for more Epic animatics!

  • @Tiger54658
    @Tiger54658 23 дня назад

    Something I've contemplated is "couldn't they have sacrificed 6 sirens to scylla?" But also come to realize "Perhaps he planned to use what was remaining of the wind bag? And it feels like that in this animatic. That there was no other option, Eurylochus had doomed them by opening that windbag and Ody had to come up with a new plan and quickly.

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  23 дня назад

      I just thought about that the other day!! The sirens would have helped them a lot. But it goes to show that Ody was not thinking right.

  • @marcelosantana3711
    @marcelosantana3711 Месяц назад +1

    Loved the animatic, but why did you make Scylla so pretty? I forgot she was suppose to be a monster watching this. lol. Great character design though, loved your art style

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Thanks! 😂 I went through like 5 different designs as I was making this animatic. Her hairstyle changed like everyday 😂 thank you so much for your comment! 🫶

  • @notnik-i6i
    @notnik-i6i Месяц назад

    ok, that move with Ody saving Eury is dramatic, especially in your artstyle... now imagine if in the end of the Thunder bringer Eury, let's say, pushes Ody away from the lightning the same way, talks his final phrases while in contact and then being STABBED by Ody. Moment when the last glimpse of open arms and good ending and thrown off the wall)

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Oh my goodness I love that idea!!! I’m definitely going to play around with that once I animate it!!

  • @goviie
    @goviie Месяц назад

    You definitely followed Jorge’s vision of Scylla. Great animatic! ❤

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Yep!! I saw a short of him describing Scylla and I’m like “PERFECT” he already did all of the research for me! 😂

  • @leoskoble
    @leoskoble 22 дня назад

    I love the fact that the fandom just decided Eurylochus has a big anime sword

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  22 дня назад +1

      I know right 😂😂😂 like I have no idea how to even unsheathe the thing

  • @ChristineShepeard
    @ChristineShepeard Месяц назад +1

    1:37
    Bruh, Eurylochus got FLUNG- no *YEETED* back.

  • @rionnamcleary
    @rionnamcleary Месяц назад

    Eurylochus and Odysseus’s facial expressions??? Your version of Scylla??? ODY SAVING EURYLOCHUS???? ohhh I fear you ate with this animatic

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      😂😂 maybe stayed up late a couple times making this animation 😂 thanks for watching though!!! 🫶

  • @FloatyyBrain
    @FloatyyBrain Месяц назад

    OHHHH! YOUR SCYLLA DESIGN IS SICKKKK! WELL DONE

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Oh my goodness thank you so much!!! 🫶🫶🫶

  • @aryansverses
    @aryansverses Месяц назад

    Okay, yeah, this is the best animatic I've seen of this track. No questions asked.

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Thank you so much!! You can expect more epic the musical animatics in the near future!

  • @chinesa-ruiva
    @chinesa-ruiva Месяц назад +1

    I love how you made Odysseus save Eurorychos(I dunno how to write) but I do think what you could made these faster to give this more adrenaline and slow donw if you want in the yom yom moment

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you!! (And I totally get that with spelling for those names. I literally call Eurylochus “side kick” in my animation layers 😂)

  • @nudgificator
    @nudgificator Месяц назад

    To have Odysseus so clearly hurt by Eurylochus' confession and still save him at the end is very powerful, especially if you know what's coming next.
    And the Scylla design raises the intriguing question of which part(s) is/are in control. It's clear it's the smaller, most human head is singing, but what about the larger head that she's inside?

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Oh I have no idea about Scylla 😂🤷🏻‍♀️ it’s more like “I want her to be spooky” so I did 😂

  • @shadelledzingorira9899
    @shadelledzingorira9899 Месяц назад

    wow, wow, wow, I absolutely love how Odysseus saved Eurolychus. the animation in this is amazing and so smooth. not to mention, why did you have to draw Scylla so pretty? you know angler fish, with the light to lure fish in. scylla was giving the same vibe. a pretty woman luring sailors in so that she can eat them. I don't know if that's what you intended but I absolutely loved it

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you so much!! That was actually my goal with Scylla 😂🎉 thank you for watching!! Means a LOT!!!

  • @ChupacabraRex
    @ChupacabraRex Месяц назад

    I Love this! I already commented on how much I positively adore your designs for odysseous, Eurylychus, and the Ship, but now that we get to see the full design of scylla, the human-like body(althlugh still rather mounstrous) inside the giantic mouth being awesomre. i also positively adore how gigantic scylla, 1:37 and 2:05 helping to demonstrate this, and implying that she's at least somewhat doing this for pleasure, since it is unlikely without magic shennanigans that much nutrition is derived from them. I also love the scenes between Eurylychus ad odysseous, his cool anger and disappointment, yet how even then he can't bear to watch the brother of his sister with whom he's fought in troy for years perish. And Eurylychus being shocked by scylla and the destruction they are helpless to fight, and how betrayed he is at odysseou's actions during the fight, and how they were led there. Also, I don't think I mentioned it last time but the water and the tears are animated beautifully. One of the things I like too, is how the crew are given faces and designs, if a bit more simplistic than Eurylychus, Odysseous, and Scyllas design. It really helps bring into it that it's truly real people that odysseous is sacrificing, and I love that odysseous saves eurylychus at the expense of another crew member, when I frankly think Eurylychus would have rather sacrifice himself, unlike odysseous who is willing to sacrifice all others i order to get back home. I absolutely adore this animatic, it's awesome!

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Oh my goodness!! This comment literally gave me a warm feeling in my little artist heart! I love how much you’ve paid attention to my details and your reasonings behind them! It makes me so happy to see that the messages I was trying to get across has been received so well!! Thank you so much for your comments and I hope to see more of your comments in the future!! 🫶

  • @shakytailstudiosshakytails2239
    @shakytailstudiosshakytails2239 Месяц назад

    Amazingly intense, love the groundedness of it~

  • @Zacd_11
    @Zacd_11 Месяц назад +2

    I like how scyla's dragon extension thingys causualy eat the soldiers like :0 :| :0 :|

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Yeah 😂 I will say I’m terrible animating action, eventually they’ll be like :O :| :O :| :O :| but faster 😂

  • @ezracohen6020
    @ezracohen6020 Месяц назад

    I love the Scylla design

  • @marthauweri3964
    @marthauweri3964 Месяц назад +1

    1:52 The tear dropping was so smooth.

  • @ollieneedstherapy
    @ollieneedstherapy Месяц назад +1

    Okay I think this is the first animatic where Eurylochus actually looks sorry and BEGS Ody for forgiveness. And I think it’s amazing.

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you so much!! I spent quite a bit of time on those frames, so I’m happy that the work paid off!! 🎉

  • @DiscoHead-d5g
    @DiscoHead-d5g Месяц назад

    Jorge did say if it was up to him the design for Scylla would look like this somgreat job

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      Thanks!! I definitely went off of his ideas a lot. I know it’s not exact because of the extra heads in the mouth, but it was fun either way 😂

    • @DiscoHead-d5g
      @DiscoHead-d5g Месяц назад

      ​@@Gentledragon_art you're welcome and the extras make it look better

  • @stardust1815
    @stardust1815 Месяц назад

    I really like the take of Odysseus not trying to get Eurylochous killed here, even though it's not canon. I would love to see an animatic that combines both the canon of Jorge's vision and this take: my idea would be that Eurylochous at first is holding a torch like in canon, but Odysseus realizes that even though he's angry he doesn't actually want him dead at the last minute and saves him, and then someone else dies instead. I think that would be a really cool idea and would love to see that. I feel like it would show the complexities of their relationship at this point really well.

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад

      I love that idea!!! I wish I could create these videos so much faster so I can make another video 😂

  • @imadgenius
    @imadgenius Месяц назад

    I find it funny how confrontation Eurylochus is in the next song, after just admitting that he got over 500 people killed by opening the bag compared to 6 by Odysseus

    • @Gentledragon_art
      @Gentledragon_art  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, Eurylochus is definitely in more blame than Odysseus in that one 😂