Ahh, I enjoyed the crap out of this one. And the last one too because Sega arcade stuff is just lovely, but I mean, this one in particular struck a chord! I've been collecting ST-V motherboards and cartridges in recent months and the whole system intrigues me to no end. There *is* something special about those generic gray cartridges.
Fantastic video as always!! Fun fact: Some if these games unplayable on MAME are now very playable using the RetroArch Kronos core. Lots if messing to do with BIOS files, but worth it for some of these treasure! Plus some awesome enhancements too!
I bought an old ST-V cabinet (aka Die Hard Arcade probably) in March maybe? Put my old motherboard in and the thing is awesome. As a cartridge collector who sold/traded in their old CD-type games this was an awesome way to play the Saturn. Sure it doesn't have NiGHTS etc but it has Radiant Silvergun!
I probably shouldn't be surprised the Hanafuda footage looks almost identical to how the game is presented in the Yakuza series as a minigame. Both being Sega and all.
Glad to see Batman Forever at No.15 as well as Radiant Silvergun only getting to 12 as while it's pretty and technically amazing, the gameplay didn't grab me as much as I hoped when I finally got round to playing it. Was hoping for Soukyugurentai to be higher on the list mind you and oh, where was "Astra Superstars"?
Fantastic video as always Kim, whenever I see that one of these goes live I drop everything and watch it. As a huge Sega fan I may be biased but I feel like the ST-V is incredibly under-rated. Back when I had a larger house and more space to myself I owned quite a few arcade machines, including some all time classics, but I must admit the ST-V got some of the most play, over much more famous and revered machines. That's perhaps unsurprising when you consider it can play multiple games, but I also ownd an MVS and whilst its sacrilidge to say so, I actually probably totalled as many hours on the ST-V as I did on the NeoGeo. To me, as a huge Saturn fanboy, to have an arcade machine that played some of my favourite games with no loading times and with proper microswitched controls and a perfect CRT was too good to pass up - and as you pointed out, they are CHEAP to pick up, especially compared to a Model 1 or 2 board, or even the Saturn versions of some of the games. I owned Radiant SilverGun, Die Hard Arcade, Baku Baku Animal, Steep Slope Sliders, Decathalete, Winter Heat, Virtua Fighter Remix and Virtua Fighter Kids. I always wanted Final Fight Revenge and Puyo Puyo Sun but sadly never saw them appear on eBay for the relatively short time I owned the machine. As a massive fan of 2d shooters and fighters, in the future when I innevitably cave and buy another system, Cotton 2, Boomerang, Shienryu, Soukyugurentai / Terra Diver, Guardian Force, Groove On Fight & Astra Superstars. I had no idea multicarts existed, now I'm even more tempted to get one as the convenience of not swapping carts would be amazing. I'm really glad you enjoyed Baku Baku Aniaml, I'm slightly surprised you hadn't heard of it, I remember first learning about the Saturn version on TV in the 90s - I feel like it was Bad Influence, but possibly not, I need to get round to re-watching all of them. Could have been something less inspiring, like "Movies Games and Videos" or the like. As a kid watching on TV I remember thinking it didn't really "use the power" of the new sparkly 32-bit system... but then when I got a Saturn a year or two later and it was on a demo disk, I was instantly hooked, and ran right out and bought a copy. The Saturn version is exactly the same as the arcade game as you may imagine, and came out in PAL territories. Sega also released a Windows 95 PC version which has network multiplayer. There is also a perfectly competant GameGear conversion, which was converted to Brazillian Master System TecToy release too!
It would be great if they did, but the pinout sadly doesn't match. Sega Lord X did a video about the ST-V and compares the cartridges here: ruclips.net/video/nx6u-7OPCyw/видео.html
I didn't see Tecmo World Cup 98 here, this would be a nice addition to the Saturn library, but stayed in the Titan board. Could've easily made a 1:1 port and is possibly on par, if not better than Worldwide Soccer 98.
watching these arcade game list videos has me thinking- wouldn't a curated list of favourites and notable games rather than every single one be more fun for you to make? some of these games are obviously ones you don't care about (which is fine) but it feels like you force yourself to play all of them, even if there are serious emulation problems (Rad Mobile in particular in the System 32 video plays completely fine on cab but has notoriously difficult-to-configure controls in MAME, something you attribute to the game itself rather than the emulator) and as you say, Saturn emulation is very spotty, and ST-V is still wildly inconsistent in MAME. i dunno, it just seems like a lot of extra work to have all the 'chaff' at the bottom of the list, and having a smaller list would allow you to talk more at-length with each game.
Kim!!! You are the arcade master!!! I absolutely adore these arcade focused videos. I’ve been hooked on mame for almost 20 years now and I’m still finding games through these videos that I never knew existed. Thank you so much for the time and effort you’ve put into this content.
Tecmo world cup 98 is a great arcade soccer game,60fps fast paced action and high resolution, a shame it wasnt released on Saturn and a shame its not yet complete emulated on Mame. FYI, SSF japanese Saturn emulator has STV emulation too.
This made me wonder, wasn't Funky Headed Boxers originally meant for some kind of photo-booth cabinet, where the players take pictures of their 'fight face', 'punch face' and 'pain face' and these get superimposed onto the models for a round of the game?
Sea Bass Fishing & Funky Head Bozing are actually great fun! Maybe it’s because you’re not playing these on proper hardware? Sad to see fun games given a bad reputation because of bad emulation :(
Golden Axe:The Duel just makes me wish Sega had done or ever does a proper fighting game with their franchises, Fighters Megamix just didn't really go far enough. An EVO worthy fighting game with Virtua Fighter, Yakuza, Streets Of Rage, Sonic, Alex Kidd, Shinobi, Golden Axe, Altered Beast, Sonic and characters from other Sega franchises would be AMAZING and something that would easily sell and be more popular than, say, another Virtua Fighter game or even something silly like another Sonic fighting game.
Fun to see you do this retrospective for ST-V. It's an interesting board with a decent amount of quality titles. Some of these I still need to play. I've never gotten into Cotton before, though I should do that some time. I'm more familiar with Shienryu via its Playstation port, renamed Gekioh. The PS1 is a good port, even if it's not as good. But that's a really good one and it definitely has that Toaplan feel. I was just playing Groove on Fight a bit last October. I have had the Saturn version since it was new, as I wanted to give a wacky fighting game a go, along with the tag mechanics. I still enjoyed it quite a lot after all these years. Despite the 1-megabyte RAM cart, there are quite a lot of cuts to the Saturn version, so the ST-V version is a better version, aside from maybe options and features. But I agree, it's good, and the end boss is nasty, in an SNK kind of way. Perhaps, even worse. Princess Clara Daisakusen is another one I ended up enjoying quite a bit.
I think your fishing puns *reely* *fly* with me. Side note...I can't wait until you do the Naomi stuff. Dolphin Blue is such an amazing game to me...like if the team at Irem that went on to found Nazca made a wonderful hybrid of In the Hunt and Metal Slug.
The sega saturn (and this board then, I imagine) rendered 3D as quads rather than the more convenient triangles that became the industry standard. That may have made 2D super easy (rendering it in orthographic 3D and using a quad per sprite) but it made 3d wonky, with a lot of degenerate quads standing in for triangles. One of the many things that made the saturn super annoying to develop for.
I've always said, from the 1st KJ production I watched that they are extremely well researched, scripted and edited and I've really warmed to her cute little speech impediment. 🥰
That Outlaws game had a unique gimmick that allows the fighters to fight bare-handed, and they get new special moves and a chain combo system as well. The Fuun Saki version on Saturn is more fun, with added balance tweaks and 2 characters, Mizoguchi and Yungmie from Fighters' History
Did the Funky Head Boxing cabinet come with a camera to implant the players face on the models? Probably not, but if that had been a feature, I could see why this game may have been a fun concept back in the day.
Great video! But my list would definitely have terra diver as number one. I wish this video came out a month ago, I just bought a multi cart on eBay and opted out guardian force for golden axe. Oh well. My stv is a dedicated die hard arcade machine I bought for $100 when nickelcade went out of business so at least I have that
Wow, I'm gobsmacked that Kim dismissed Radiant Silvergun like that. No mention of it being the best looking SHMUP on any console from the time (the final boss is incredible stuff), or its current ludicrous market value. Nope, just brushed it aside like a footnote. ... and after saying that Final Fight Revenge was a good game (it's not, and is also ludicrously expensive). No accounting for taste, right? :-P
You recommend a lot of very expensive titles Kim ;) For Radiant Silvergun it is the other way around for me. I don't usually like games by Treasure, but I love Silvergun.
Ajpw featuring virtua is much better than any giant gram game. Ajpw virtua had a crowd meter which meant you could literally have 60 minute near fall matches. Giant gram ruined all that and it became arcade with matches lasting 4 minutes and no near falls
I have great memories of the Saturn version of Steep Slope Sliders. Never owned the full game but had a 2 course demo disc. Played it over and over. There's a lesser-known sequel on PS1 called Trick'N Snowboarder.
I still to this day crack my ass up over whatever video it was where you were in the shower with your shirt off and then at the end it said something like "I hope you liked the video, and if you didn't, well at least you got to see some tit." 😂🤣 Fucking legendary! You go girl!
Othello? I had a version called reversi on Amiga. Thanks for the upload Kim, I really enjoyed it... Also pebble beach is my fav Saturn game. The main man looks like a wallrus.
Shienryu looks disturbingly similar to Raiden, even down to the look of the weapons, ship, and the powerup icons. I mean, I won't complain, I love Raiden (especially Raiden II. - the game I gravitate to more than any other if an Arcade had it) But yeah, it almost starts to get into uncanny territory... Like it's some lost sequel or something...
I could never get into Soukygurentai just like I couldn't get into rayforce, and I freaking love Raizing. The shmup nerd consensus is that it's the best one here. I think Radiant Silvergun is properly rated though, that game has serious problems.
As someone who was in speech therapy for years, you really need to work on pronouncing your "TH"s. Thhhhh, thhhhhhh. Keep pronouncing the start of the word The only changing the last sound to be more like an e or an a or o. The, tho, tha, thaaaaaa, theeeeee, thoooooo, and keep trying to stretch the initial TH sound. And don't just drop the sound altogether when it is in the middle of a word like "although" and "otherwise" and "altogether". Also your R's drop sometimes and you make a W sound. (upon further watching you do it constantly).
So the "best & worst" isn't based in any fact... Its based on just you opinion, someone that is shit at playing most games (yes I have watched your live streams) how about some fact based lists instead of opinion based ones.
Ahh, I enjoyed the crap out of this one. And the last one too because Sega arcade stuff is just lovely, but I mean, this one in particular struck a chord! I've been collecting ST-V motherboards and cartridges in recent months and the whole system intrigues me to no end. There *is* something special about those generic gray cartridges.
Are you going to continue your arcade videos after getting done with Sega's stuff? Taito, Namco or SNK deep dives would be excellent.
Yes please
Please please please
I’d love that!!!
Fantastic video as always!!
Fun fact: Some if these games unplayable on MAME are now very playable using the RetroArch Kronos core. Lots if messing to do with BIOS files, but worth it for some of these treasure! Plus some awesome enhancements too!
I bought an old ST-V cabinet (aka Die Hard Arcade probably) in March maybe? Put my old motherboard in and the thing is awesome. As a cartridge collector who sold/traded in their old CD-type games this was an awesome way to play the Saturn. Sure it doesn't have NiGHTS etc but it has Radiant Silvergun!
Excellent as always. Thank you so much! Can't wait for more AMIGA stuff!
You rock, cheers!
I probably shouldn't be surprised the Hanafuda footage looks almost identical to how the game is presented in the Yakuza series as a minigame. Both being Sega and all.
Glad to see Batman Forever at No.15 as well as Radiant Silvergun only getting to 12 as while it's pretty and technically amazing, the gameplay didn't grab me as much as I hoped when I finally got round to playing it.
Was hoping for Soukyugurentai to be higher on the list mind you and oh, where was "Astra Superstars"?
Final Fight Revenge and Radiant Silvergun lingering together in midtable? Very surreal.
Well done, as always, Kim! I didn't realize quite how cheap these boards are... maybe time to add another Darksoft Multi to my collection!
Great video. I recognize Shienryu as a different game that I have on my ps1 called Gekioh: the shooting king. I had no idea it was on Saturn too.
Fantastic video as always Kim, whenever I see that one of these goes live I drop everything and watch it.
As a huge Sega fan I may be biased but I feel like the ST-V is incredibly under-rated. Back when I had a larger house and more space to myself I owned quite a few arcade machines, including some all time classics, but I must admit the ST-V got some of the most play, over much more famous and revered machines. That's perhaps unsurprising when you consider it can play multiple games, but I also ownd an MVS and whilst its sacrilidge to say so, I actually probably totalled as many hours on the ST-V as I did on the NeoGeo.
To me, as a huge Saturn fanboy, to have an arcade machine that played some of my favourite games with no loading times and with proper microswitched controls and a perfect CRT was too good to pass up - and as you pointed out, they are CHEAP to pick up, especially compared to a Model 1 or 2 board, or even the Saturn versions of some of the games.
I owned Radiant SilverGun, Die Hard Arcade, Baku Baku Animal, Steep Slope Sliders, Decathalete, Winter Heat, Virtua Fighter Remix and Virtua Fighter Kids. I always wanted Final Fight Revenge and Puyo Puyo Sun but sadly never saw them appear on eBay for the relatively short time I owned the machine. As a massive fan of 2d shooters and fighters, in the future when I innevitably cave and buy another system, Cotton 2, Boomerang, Shienryu, Soukyugurentai / Terra Diver, Guardian Force, Groove On Fight & Astra Superstars. I had no idea multicarts existed, now I'm even more tempted to get one as the convenience of not swapping carts would be amazing.
I'm really glad you enjoyed Baku Baku Aniaml, I'm slightly surprised you hadn't heard of it, I remember first learning about the Saturn version on TV in the 90s - I feel like it was Bad Influence, but possibly not, I need to get round to re-watching all of them. Could have been something less inspiring, like "Movies Games and Videos" or the like. As a kid watching on TV I remember thinking it didn't really "use the power" of the new sparkly 32-bit system... but then when I got a Saturn a year or two later and it was on a demo disk, I was instantly hooked, and ran right out and bought a copy. The Saturn version is exactly the same as the arcade game as you may imagine, and came out in PAL territories. Sega also released a Windows 95 PC version which has network multiplayer. There is also a perfectly competant GameGear conversion, which was converted to Brazillian Master System TecToy release too!
Looks like that i'm really the only person on planet Earth, who likes Elan Doree...
Would those arcade cartridges fit in the back of a Saturn? They do look awfully similar. even down the same gap in the pin board.
It would be great if they did, but the pinout sadly doesn't match. Sega Lord X did a video about the ST-V and compares the cartridges here: ruclips.net/video/nx6u-7OPCyw/видео.html
I didn't see Tecmo World Cup 98 here, this would be a nice addition to the Saturn library, but stayed in the Titan board. Could've easily made a 1:1 port and is possibly on par, if not better than Worldwide Soccer 98.
8:15 I'm glad you gave up on the fish gags. They were wearing a bit fin...
They couldn't hold us on the line anymore.
I think Kim knew she couldn't keep us Hooked much longer
What fish gags?, that's codswallop
Everything is a gar, I mean ajar now.
They just weren't making a splash any more.
watching these arcade game list videos has me thinking- wouldn't a curated list of favourites and notable games rather than every single one be more fun for you to make? some of these games are obviously ones you don't care about (which is fine) but it feels like you force yourself to play all of them, even if there are serious emulation problems (Rad Mobile in particular in the System 32 video plays completely fine on cab but has notoriously difficult-to-configure controls in MAME, something you attribute to the game itself rather than the emulator) and as you say, Saturn emulation is very spotty, and ST-V is still wildly inconsistent in MAME. i dunno, it just seems like a lot of extra work to have all the 'chaff' at the bottom of the list, and having a smaller list would allow you to talk more at-length with each game.
Kim!!! You are the arcade master!!! I absolutely adore these arcade focused videos. I’ve been hooked on mame for almost 20 years now and I’m still finding games through these videos that I never knew existed. Thank you so much for the time and effort you’ve put into this content.
Tecmo world cup 98 is a great arcade soccer game,60fps fast paced action and high resolution, a shame it wasnt released on Saturn and a shame its not yet complete emulated on Mame.
FYI, SSF japanese Saturn emulator has STV emulation too.
This made me wonder, wasn't Funky Headed Boxers originally meant for some kind of photo-booth cabinet, where the players take pictures of their 'fight face', 'punch face' and 'pain face' and these get superimposed onto the models for a round of the game?
Sea Bass Fishing & Funky Head Bozing are actually great fun! Maybe it’s because you’re not playing these on proper hardware? Sad to see fun games given a bad reputation because of bad emulation :(
Golden Axe:The Duel just makes me wish Sega had done or ever does a proper fighting game with their franchises, Fighters Megamix just didn't really go far enough.
An EVO worthy fighting game with Virtua Fighter, Yakuza, Streets Of Rage, Sonic, Alex Kidd, Shinobi, Golden Axe, Altered Beast, Sonic and characters from other Sega franchises would be AMAZING and something that would easily sell and be more popular than, say, another Virtua Fighter game or even something silly like another Sonic fighting game.
Fun to see you do this retrospective for ST-V. It's an interesting board with a decent amount of quality titles. Some of these I still need to play. I've never gotten into Cotton before, though I should do that some time. I'm more familiar with Shienryu via its Playstation port, renamed Gekioh. The PS1 is a good port, even if it's not as good. But that's a really good one and it definitely has that Toaplan feel. I was just playing Groove on Fight a bit last October. I have had the Saturn version since it was new, as I wanted to give a wacky fighting game a go, along with the tag mechanics. I still enjoyed it quite a lot after all these years. Despite the 1-megabyte RAM cart, there are quite a lot of cuts to the Saturn version, so the ST-V version is a better version, aside from maybe options and features. But I agree, it's good, and the end boss is nasty, in an SNK kind of way. Perhaps, even worse. Princess Clara Daisakusen is another one I ended up enjoying quite a bit.
I think your fishing puns *reely* *fly* with me. Side note...I can't wait until you do the Naomi stuff. Dolphin Blue is such an amazing game to me...like if the team at Irem that went on to found Nazca made a wonderful hybrid of In the Hunt and Metal Slug.
Dolphin Blue is Atomiswave, not Naomi. Great game.
@@bombjack1984 I thought Atomiswave was just a Naomi variant...I didn't know until just now that Atomiswave isn't technically a Sega product.
The sega saturn (and this board then, I imagine) rendered 3D as quads rather than the more convenient triangles that became the industry standard. That may have made 2D super easy (rendering it in orthographic 3D and using a quad per sprite) but it made 3d wonky, with a lot of degenerate quads standing in for triangles. One of the many things that made the saturn super annoying to develop for.
I'd love to see a vid on the snk 3d games. So little is said about those.
I would love someone to sell an ST-V board in a Saturn case which you could hook up to your tv.
It takes a lot for videos to impress me these days, and your videos do just that!
I've always said, from the 1st KJ production I watched that they are extremely well researched, scripted and edited and I've really warmed to her cute little speech impediment. 🥰
That Outlaws game had a unique gimmick that allows the fighters to fight bare-handed, and they get new special moves and a chain combo system as well. The Fuun Saki version on Saturn is more fun, with added balance tweaks and 2 characters, Mizoguchi and Yungmie from Fighters' History
Tecmo World Cup 98 is great and to this day we didn't get a decent replacement for this game
Oh Cod !, all those fish puns gave me a Haddock
It’s another next level video Kim... very good production values and I even laughed at the puns about fishing game 🐋🐋😀
These videos are great I love your documentary style retrospectives on older game companies
Oh god, Soukyougurentai! Absolutely loved this on my Saturn back then. I should re-play this asap.
Great video, good job! Thank you for doing this.
I actually really enjoy the aesthetics of Columns 97
Did the Funky Head Boxing cabinet come with a camera to implant the players face on the models? Probably not, but if that had been a feature, I could see why this game may have been a fun concept back in the day.
I loved this so much. Thank you for these amazing vids. Keep them coming, please!
Your videos are *amazing* Kim 😍
You deserve more subs
STV, so its come to this, Kim has had to pivot to vids rating voting systems.
Always a good day when a new Kim Justice video is posted! uWu
I actually thought Princess Clara was Grandia at first.. I then saw the Bastion parallel.. Interesting
Kim, have you played the PS2's Sega Ages remake of "Die Hard Arcade"? If so, how would you say it compares to the ST-V/Saturn original?
Great video! But my list would definitely have terra diver as number one. I wish this video came out a month ago, I just bought a multi cart on eBay and opted out guardian force for golden axe. Oh well. My stv is a dedicated die hard arcade machine I bought for $100 when nickelcade went out of business so at least I have that
Amazing review!
I have to say, as a fomer saturn owner...THIS was the video I was waiting for!!! Thanks Kim!
Sometimes i think if die hard arcade would be a better game if it had two or three extra stages. If you play really well its over in 15 minutes.
yes plz ty
more long-form vids, these have been great
Wow, I'm gobsmacked that Kim dismissed Radiant Silvergun like that. No mention of it being the best looking SHMUP on any console from the time (the final boss is incredible stuff), or its current ludicrous market value. Nope, just brushed it aside like a footnote.
... and after saying that Final Fight Revenge was a good game (it's not, and is also ludicrously expensive). No accounting for taste, right? :-P
You recommend a lot of very expensive titles Kim ;) For Radiant Silvergun it is the other way around for me. I don't usually like games by Treasure, but I love Silvergun.
Ajpw featuring virtua is much better than any giant gram game. Ajpw virtua had a crowd meter which meant you could literally have 60 minute near fall matches. Giant gram ruined all that and it became arcade with matches lasting 4 minutes and no near falls
When I start to feel sad about the sorry state of the world, Kim Justice always makes me feel better.
More fishing puns, Kim! Great rundown
Where does Virtual On fit into the SEGA back catalogue?
The first 3 games were on the Model 2, Model 3 and Hikaru arcade boards. 4th one is on PS2/PS3 but isn't particularly well liked.
You did the Mori episode. Now I gotta get a card of some sort and make a new Patreon account. lol.
The ssf emulator can run as TV games
Die Hard Arcade is a blast.
With a great video about Sega, I have to subscribe of course. Sega is my favorite video game company
Golden Axe the duel pays good fan service, but it's just a slightly above average game.
Another fascinating video!.
I have great memories of the Saturn version of Steep Slope Sliders. Never owned the full game but had a 2 course demo disc. Played it over and over. There's a lesser-known sequel on PS1 called Trick'N Snowboarder.
500 pounds for Radiant Silvergun? I ne er should have sold mine...
I still to this day crack my ass up over whatever video it was where you were in the shower with your shirt off and then at the end it said something like "I hope you liked the video, and if you didn't, well at least you got to see some tit." 😂🤣 Fucking legendary! You go girl!
funky head boxers is now my favorite game of all time.
42:50 It looks like you say Bruce Lee.
Those Cotton games look like higher definition remakes of Cauldron.
pretty sure we had a cotton game in our local chippy :D
Othello? I had a version called reversi on Amiga. Thanks for the upload Kim, I really enjoyed it... Also pebble beach is my fav Saturn game. The main man looks like a wallrus.
Shienryu looks disturbingly similar to Raiden, even down to the look of the weapons, ship, and the powerup icons.
I mean, I won't complain, I love Raiden (especially Raiden II. - the game I gravitate to more than any other if an Arcade had it)
But yeah, it almost starts to get into uncanny territory...
Like it's some lost sequel or something...
im just waiting for intial D emulated cause intial D
the main guy in die hard looks like bruce lee??????? i certainly hope not..
smh... shat on funky head boxers & sakura taisen columns, and never heard of decathlete??? i'm out...
I remember seeing a lot of these games for the first in the official sega Saturn magazine
Neo Geo turf masters
These fishing jokes just don't fly.
hooray for fishing puns!
Those fish Puns were carp 🙄
I could never get into Soukygurentai just like I couldn't get into rayforce, and I freaking love Raizing. The shmup nerd consensus is that it's the best one here. I think Radiant Silvergun is properly rated though, that game has serious problems.
Get Rich Quick by Robin Banks.
Willis
i for one would download a car..
Ever notice in games from this region all the older men look western not japanese !!!
UwU .
Not up to the quality of previous Sega hardware, and lacking in many genres such as racing games.
As someone who was in speech therapy for years, you really need to work on pronouncing your "TH"s. Thhhhh, thhhhhhh. Keep pronouncing the start of the word The only changing the last sound to be more like an e or an a or o. The, tho, tha, thaaaaaa, theeeeee, thoooooo, and keep trying to stretch the initial TH sound. And don't just drop the sound altogether when it is in the middle of a word like "although" and "otherwise" and "altogether".
Also your R's drop sometimes and you make a W sound. (upon further watching you do it constantly).
You really don't like the Saturn do you?
Is Kim J. that Gay thingie?
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So the "best & worst" isn't based in any fact... Its based on just you opinion, someone that is shit at playing most games (yes I have watched your live streams) how about some fact based lists instead of opinion based ones.
🤦♂️