BioShock Infinite vs. Quantum Mechanics: The Real Science of BioShock Infinite (SPOILERS)
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- BioShock Infinite vs. Quantum Mechanics: The Real Science of BioShock Infinite, starring Parallel Universes! Flux Pinning! Schrödinger's Cat! Wormholes! Spoilers! and the rest. Here comes the science part (it's all the science part).
In 1912, when BioShock Infinite takes place, the world was on the verge of the scientific revolution that was quantum mechanics. Small wonder the dizzying science fiction of BioShock Infinite draws heavily on eye-widening quantum phenomena such as Many-Worlds Interpretation (for multiple universes) and entanglement (for trans-universe communication).
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So, not giant balloons?
No, no giant balloons. 0 k
I'd love to see more videos like this. Jane talking science gives me life!
About schrödinger's cat: there's also a voxophone about the state of a man during baptism, in the water the man is both sinner and saint, until his true identity is revealed when he surfaces.
Oh, haven't found that one. Very interesting.
+nobody knows If you've not found it there's actually two 1 in the first level called "Everyman, All at Once" and one in the last level before you confront Comstock "The Mirror of Sin". Really love how they used the audio's to bookend the whole game
In the water the man is both dead and alive, until his true fate is revealed when he surfaces.
That how I feed after I listen to that voxophone.
Its the height of human arrogance to assume that a particle or set of particles (namely a cat) cannot decide its state until observed by a human. The universe (namely other particles) are observing constantly and at a far greater level of detail.
When Andy called out "Time Travel" I swear Jane looked like she wanted to kill him(scripted or not)
she probably did, maybe today's Andy is just a clone she brought back from another dimension
yeah, she looked annoyed the whole time; what gives, man?
It’s years later and I still demand more of Jane talking science
YES
Agreed
Why are people doubting Jane's abilities in Physics?. She has a masters degree in Physics, and probably knows alot more about science than any of you basement dwellers do.
+Naveen jeet Because some of the explanations aren't very good or precise. But if she has a M.S. i guess she's just having a hard time simplifying.
She doesn't really anything wrong, some of it could just say better. And unless there is something about the hypothetical worm hole i don't know they only allow spacial travel or at least not time travel as it is normally understood.
+sumsar01 true. Having in depth knowledge makes it difficult i suppose
+sumsar01
being a good student is different from being a different teacher
sumsar01 also people assume she might not know what she’s talking about because she’s a woman I’m sure.
Having any degree demands respect? Please solve the Yang Mills theory first and complain here expert.
Ken Levine congratulated her for this.
Amazing!
can Jane be my science teacher please
I don't know why, but Jane justifying Bioshock Infinite with quantum physics makes me happy :)
I love it when Jane gets all sciency. Almost as much as I love it when she gets all sociopathic. :)
i absolutely love her sociopathic tendencies.
Maybe one day we’ll get a combo
@@LadyViscera we can only dream.
*gets a physics degree**becomes a xbox youtube host *
And if I remember correctly, Andy has a history degree.
+Omar Harris and Mike just REALLY likes cars
+Michael Miller - one very eclectic group. And that's why we love 'em
Itsi badumdisch 😂
Michael Miller or just take 2-3 physics classes in college, depends if you have done ap physics c in high school.
i love how bioshock goes deep into the many worlds theory, but futurama says screw it theres only one other world, and everyone there is a cowboy...
Not if you remember the episode where Farnsworth created a box with a parallel universe inside it. Than there was hundreds of other worlds. :D
Whoever created the music for bioshock infinite deserves a fucking Grammy
I don't like many RUclips videos, but when I do, it's Jane whispering sweet sweet physics in my ear
I claim to understand quantum mechanics when talking to my teachers, but in reality I've just played the BioShock trilogy way too many times.
I love hearing Jane talk about science… It’s so cool, and she just made the Schrodinger‘s cat experiment make more sense than anybody i’ve ever listened to talk about it.
I come back to this video like once a year. It’s so informative, and fun. I used to watch this during my freshman year of high-school
This gem popped up on my feed again. We need more Jane science lessons, highly entertaining and educational.
yes
i like how her and rosalind lutece have the same accent. both extremely intelligent as well. if they made a live action movie, you'd be the best person for her role
They don't have the same accent. Similar but not the same.
The voice actors should instead
I never realized that Jane had a physics degree until this video.
7ish years later, and this was still cool to watch!
its really cool to see how much the channel has grown since this video 3 years ago.
Science Jane videos definitely need to come back they are great.
Glad Bioshock brought Quantum Physic to popular culture. It s fascinating
I've seen it so many times and the video is great and all but I can't stop laughing about Jane-voiced Andy XD
I'm Watching this in 2021 and appreciating even more Bioshock Infinite (and also Jane's knolodge about physics).
Nice job Jane. I appreciate your explanations. When i played infinite i never really thought of the real world science behind it. Again great job.
well done! I love Bioshock Infinite so the video definitely hit the spot in my thirst for more Bioshock Infinite.
I came back to watch this again. Still fantastic. I might take notes next time. 🙂
I wish I'd seen this sooner! Never played bioshock but have routinely been confused by quantum.. umm.. stuff. This has totally put all my confusion to bed. Astonishing, thanks jane and co! :)
This was really well produced. Thanks a bunch!
Love this... wish they would sprinkle more videos like this in there
I know this is a bit late, but... Simply awesome.
Also, it's nice to know that I'm not the only one with a physics-related degree which is of no practical use to me. Thanks, Jane.
Thanks for doing this, guys. Good video.
Quantum Entanglement is a real thing? Wow! I had no idea. That's the same thing that the Normandy SR2 uses in ME2-3 to communicate with the Illusive Man and Admirals Hackett and Anderson, right? That's so cool! Thanks for this video, Jane. That levitation thing is crazy too!
So Jane just became my favourite OX presenter.
I surely enjoy all of the sarcasm and puns of the usual list videos, but this video popped up on the recommended as a welcome surprise. A shame the view counts are a fraction of the usual, but still, great effort.
I need more of this. Love it
I'm in love. And it also explained a lot! Great video.
Fair play, I forgot that Quantum Entanglement bit when I played it
Can we have more Jane sciencing videos please? It's just gold.
Wow this explains a lot. A lot About the lutece too. Now I completely understand what they meant about the coin.
This was the first video that introduced me to this channel back in 2013, really surprising to find out that it still only has less than 200,000 views.
Love this episode due to the science of it, did not know the level of science Jane had and is impressive how clearly the science was explained, the quantum entanglement isn't really going faster than the speed of light because the action of one of the particles causing the other entangled particle to move are connected in a way akin to two gears meshed together, the "gravity" that holds the galaxy together is permeated throughout the galaxy and all particles are connected to it... the center of the galaxy rotates and all the solar systems move in accordance to it, this wave function like force causes the two particles that are entangled to react instantaneously regardless of distance as they are still essentially connected, also all forces are essentially different types of magnetism, and magnetism is the energy wave function while the particle is like a condensed knot of the wave function, this is why when you "observe" a particle does it cause its effect because it simply reacting to the addition of a specific energy pattern of the wave function... this is only theory as I have not proved it through experiments but I do consider the ease of which this could be proved by the many experiments that have been done that fit nicely with my explanation... also to mention I find it funny that my name is also Robert
+mandudepersondudeman What a piece of mumbojumbo...
I knew a little bit about quantum mechanics but I really learned a lot here.
"The Universe doesn't like it's peas mixed with it's porridge." Basically, Elizabeth is present in not one world but two because her pinky is in Bookers/Roberts world while she is also present in Comstocks/Rosalinds world.
I never would have known any of this. Thank you so much!
I wish they still did this! So fun
bioshock my favorite work of science fiction :D I just wish i had some one like this girl to talk to after I beat the game, unfortunately I only had my cousin and science freaks him out, the hole plot confused him and all he could really talk about was how fun the different gun types were. :/
"The prim lady physicist," "the great lady of science"? Referring to Rosalind Lutece or Jane Douglas? :) Also, JANE HAS A PHYSICS DEGREE WOW
calling it levitation suggest that it is done by supernatural means there fore the other scientist believed it was nothing short of magic, but She mentions how it simply failed to fall suggesting its an outright elimination of the effectiveness of gravity's pull on it either by over powering gravity on an extreme level or diminishing gravity effect entirely
As far as the Lutece Particle is concerned and Quantum Pinning; it could simply be that Rosalind Lutece figured out a way to package the magnet/supercooling/particle in a container such as shown in Burial at Sea. Also, given how American culture was in the Infinite Universe it wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility that Comstock got supercooled magnet tracks or platforms installed so that Columbia could exist.
Quantum Entanglement is also used in Mass Effect. In Mass Effect 2 the device with which Shepard communicates with the Illusive Man uses quantum entangled particles to allow lag free communication accross a galaxy.
Well the Luteces flipped the coin 123 times. So even better than 100.
Also time travel in Bioshock isn't really time travel. As in Bioshock time isn't linear. Everything happens at the same time, but we interpret events as occurring separately. That's why the Luteces say the line "Lives, lived, will live, dies, died, will die." So time travel isn't traveling through time. It is simply traveling to a place where you are experiencing something that humans say happened at a different time.
Dead on. Plus they didn't cover the fact that she wasn't jumping through time in one universe, it's actually a different universe entirely because Columbia and Rapture never exist in the same universe.
Time is not a strict progression from cause to effect in fact from a non linear non subjective point of view it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff
Time is also relative. Happening all at once from a non subjective point of view. So. It'd be very mixed around. Happening at the same time on different timelines. Of course she could travel between the universes in a way also time travel going outside of relative time in one universe to the next
the guy who puts the cat in the bucket thing was the guy from inside xbox! superkaylo i think his gamertag was.. anyway, nice to see you again!
I loved this video. I actually think she hit all the points I'd noticed, including the infusion bottles (I laughed for quite a while when I realized that was in fact superposition they were going for).
she has a masters degree in physics, andy has a degree in English and American literature and history, and mike has a degree in english
That was New York City^^. But still Columbia can fly on its own because of the very effective engines that fill the balloons with hot air but only for so long they had fuel. On that specific spot Columbia can stay forever without the engines.^^.
this. this was amazing. exactly what i needed. it touched everything that i was wondering about and made it simple to-OH WHAT THE HELL AUTOMATIC CRUSH
Awesome video.
Great video. The more I read/watch about Bioshock infinite the more the game's universe expands into genius territory!
The key thing to remember about Schrodinger's Cat - that thought experiment (first, not a real experiment that he carried out) was actually meant to point out a paradox that can occur when talking about quantum mechanics. It was specifically to make people think about the fact that we only see quantum effects at very very very small scale... the thought experiment was meant like "So, what if I make it such that a larger scale event is dependent on a quantum event?" The paradox is that the large scale event (dead cat) should NOT have a superposition - it's either dead or alive - but the triggering mechanism (emission of radiation from a radioactive atom, a subatomic quantum event) exists in a superposition of states until measured. So, either the emission is not a quantum event (but it is) or the cat exists as both alive and dead simultaneously (which it doesn't) - and so, we have a paradox.
this is my favorite video on the internet thankS
quantum entanglement does not violate relativity because no information can be exchanged using this.
poseidon I was thinking that that should have been said.
Anyone watching in 2018? Gosh I can sit here and listen to Jane talk quantum mechanics for eeeeeevvvvvveeeerrrrrr 😊
The coin always showing up heads has to deal with the constants and variables theme. Every time Booker got to this point it always came up heads, or he always doesn't row. It goes with the theory that this is the Luteces' 123 attempt at fixing things. It took them that many times to get the variables right, since they found that you can't change constants. Booker always picks #77 even why they try to stop him.
Definitely a teacher in a previous life due to quantum mechanics you are just as you have explained, thanks Ms. Jane for the lesson. I think infinite in possibilities but uniquely designed by many layers of energy consisting of matter and other unique elements not yet discovered is the probable reality of the multiverse.
Never have I played a game that you can discuss like this. Just bought it Friday and I am so hooked on this piece of ART!
ZombryaTheDark exactly! It's so much fun! And so intriguing. So much discussions to be had! Allonsy!
Nice video. intellectual and about games
+ interesting
Having studied physics and liking cats, one of the obvious choices for my cat's name was Schrödinger. Funny thing is that when he is resting, I have to check to see whether he is sleeping or dead.
Exactly :) I had no idea the first time! Until I watched this, and got into the fandom. Now their rambles have meaning xD
This was wonderful. Enjoy the views from Irrational Games posting your video on Facebook!
They don't time travel in the game, they go to a different universe in witch rapture is created on an earth that was made 48 years before Booker's world. This is how Finch and Suchong could communicate to develop plasmids and vigors
3:45AM and I'm learning about Quantum physics.
I'm a microbiologist so I love explaining the microbiology concepts such as viruses, fungi, and bacteria that are in games and movies like The Last of Us, Nano Assault Neo, and Rise of the Planet of the Apes.
My theory? The lighthouses are the magnetic points scattered around America.
:)
+Ian Randolph Which would make sense since you had to do the combination with bells (maybe turning on the magnet/superconductor-thingy in the lighthouse on, making the place levitate over it)
Yeah!
+Ian Randolph those lighthouses weren't really there in the "real world", only the real one. That zone with the multiple lighthouses was like an intermediate dimention in between the diferent Universes.
MrBX5 So you're saying that drunk, pinkerton, office Booker is in a different dimension by the time he reaches the first lighthouse?
That is part of the Quantum Theory and she mentioned that^^.
you did a pretty good job Jane
...."yeah alright" i love Andy.
Oh my God! You just made my day!
This is a fantastic post.
Oh I like that, seeing that trip to Rapture as a wormhole
with the siphon working she was bound to wherever she was physically, and the tears were already there and were, you know, tears; but then she went god-mode and she could go wherever she wanted, and she chose a nice spot to watch Songbird drown
Fernando Rayón Hierro there's lots of issues in calling it a wormhole. Because it's not that at all, even in theory. More like a doorway. And being outside of time would cause her to experience time all at once. And see it. Through the doorways. Then travel to different universes and places from the outside of time location.
So.. no. Not wormholes
Jane on the theory of time travel, Steven Hawking (and other various scientists) came out with an explanation why backwards time travel is theoretically impossible. The explanation is if a wormhole was created, it would be so unstable that literally anything with mass would cause it to collapse on itself. Another theory suggested that even if you found a stable enough wormhole, the feed back caused by light particles moving from one point to the next and back again would also cause the wormhole to destabilize and collapse on itself.
While backwards time travel is mostly impossible (you could use alternate worlds theory where the alternate world is exactly like your own but 40(whatever) years back in the past), forward time travel is very possible. Many possibilities exist for this from moving fast enough, to creating a forwards traveling wormhole, to finally getting close enough to a massive object like a black hole. So forwards time traveling is possible.
+dogsrulenw08 the possibility of a stabilized wormhole is real. also by traveling using a wormhole once you reach the other side you will have bypassed the speed of light which means you will effectively be in the past. how far in the past you are is determined by your distance if you travel back you would return to the present
jared timme BS
The problem is. Elizabeth isn't creating wormholes, she's simply traveling to another universe that has its own timeline. It's not going backwards or forwards. It's going outside of time then entering it. Events outside of time would be happening all at once. They always are in other universes and time itself. So the only way she could safely time travel is. By going to a place not subjective to time outside of the universes and timelines which is the lighthouses.
Then she can simply enter into any universe and time zone she pleases. It's like if you went instantly from one state to another with a different time zone. Things would happen same time. But time would be different and events too. Parallel to eachother. But not touching
Some person (from digipen I think) has expanded on the idea of tares and created a game called "Void" it''s pretty cool, you should do a video on it :D
very underrated video
love it, want more!
I just learned some basic physics. Why have more people not seen this video?!
Anyone else notice the awesome use of George A Romero's original Night of the Living Dead?
I wish my science lessons were like this
"so... not giant ballons?"
LOL oh, Booker!
Every now and then I have to go back to the video that got me into ox. Eight years well spend.
Hang on can quantum entanglement also be used for teleportation? Example you have 2 objects a sphereic object in this case (ball) that is connected to quantum entanglement... let's say you throw the object away from you is it possible since in quantum entanglement that the object is still connected to the other object you have in your hand and therefore can warp yourself towards the ball you threw at?
I love this show. I missed inside xbox but this is so much more fun.
I was just under the impression that in the case of Rapture it was a early onset universe she brought them to (a universe where the big bang took occured earlier but running parallel to our own) The Rapture shown occured along the same timeline only in this case the universe involved had begun earlier than Infinite's universe by a few Decades...
I know right? I never thought I would see the day.... But, oh, so amazing!
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Michael Pena Vibe lol
You know we are on youtube and discussing about quantum mechanics. Le´ts just get to the point...You know things and i know things and call it even. Because i think the discussion don´t bring us very far^^. Greetings Dylan.
there is also a voxophone by Comstock that references schrodinger's cat : One man goes into the waters of baptism, a different man comes out, born again. But who is that man who lies submerged? Perhaps that swimmer is both sinner and saint, until he is revealed unto the eyes of man.
To be honest, I think the Lutece particle works better than real life quantum levitation because the infrastructure only needs particles to keep them suspended in the air while flux pinning requires Superconductors and magnets to work in tandem and this particle allows levitation to occur more independently.
so those were magnet locations on the map? :O
Thank god for the Internet, I tried talking to my friends about wormholes and the many worlds theory and they thought I was crazy!
You need to get better friends:L!
Having said that, I'm in the same boat; my friends are fabulous but only one of them is a scientist, besides me. My dad is a physicist, so I talk to him about physics/other science. I think it's partly because this kind of stuff is considered boring, especially as it can be quite hard to understand. And it's not all sci-fi aliens and spaceships (quote from non-sciecey friend).