Kickback got turned into a very solid back pocket weapon for melee ogryn builds, but also an obscenely strong delete button for full on ranged builds, able to pop damnation shooters at a comfortable distance and tear huge chunks off anything up close Ogryn finally has his own soup gun
I've been using The Kickback all weekend and I've decided it's my favorite weapon in the game. I have one with 75% Range and if you aim down sight, it's literally a sniper rifle. And if you have the Surgical blessing just wait about 2.5 seconds before firing your shot while aiming and you will one shot almost every enemy in sight. Keep up the great work chocoB. I absolutely love all of your builds on all classes. If it wasn't for you I probably wouldn't be playing this amazing game. Have a great day and thank you for everything you do.
@@revolved.ocelot I have 1k hours in the game and exclusively play maelstrom. Watch his solo play vs his saving a whole team. The enemy density isn't even comparable.
@@braisedtoast9002 That is not true actually. Its simply a matter of his true solos are not on the hi-intensity shock troop gauntlet like his team clips are. The pacing looks comparable to just a normal damnation run with no modifier, meanwhile the next clip is during the hi-STG. Vermintide and Darktide both have zero player scaling, no matter the player count its always scaled to 4 player. Hence why technically are not suppose to be able to play completely solo thats why the game gives you bots and you have to mod the game to play like this. After 1k hours you think you would have noticed that?
That what i allways said. Even before the Update it was an amazing combo. But i got hated for that :D I know it wasnt that strong, unlike now but the combo was allways S+
@@SuperCatacata I've been incorporating slide, but never seem to get close the distances on the Dodge slide that he does. It's why I'd love a video on it.
@@TakoaI'm not sure if this applies here but I know that having a higher FOV makes it look like you're moving faster, and it does look like he has it higher than the default at least
yeah, i've been running shovel and kickback and rocks this past week. It's awesome. Rocks make up for short range of the kickback. It takes out most things except carapace.
I was so sad before, considering the Kickback was straight up useless compared to other options.. But I got so so happy when it got buffed recently, making it very much viable as a specialist killer/horde softener or as I like to call it "Ogryns revolver", quick switch, pop and back to melee!
@@marcel-q1mThankfully it takes like 15 shots to kill a crusher. The one thing keeping this gun from being OP imo. Less universal than the rumbler, but more ammo and better at horde.
When you become a experienced player you Will be able to Tell If your team dps can consistently kill pop busters from afar and will not try to push them yourself.
@@daniloribeiro5372 i am an experienced player. It's not me going to push bursters they are shooting, it's them turning around and gunning a burster that is near me already that i need to push away
@@daniloribeiro5372When you become a more experienced player you will be able to turn around and just sprint away full force from the pox burster right in front of you knowing that if you show even the slightest intention of pushing it the whole squad will start blasting everything they got just to kill the burster.
Fr. Either I’m tearing through swathes of enemies with a Ripper, blasting a Stubber at max firerate, turning hordes into marinara with a kickback, or just going full melee on any of the amazing weapons.
Getting the praise voiceline for killing a lot of enemies in short succession just by clicking once with the kickback is hilarious. "THAT'S why we bring an ogryn around" ... True he carries a literal medievil cannon no wonder
Gold’n fuckin Emprah, that solo gameplay (especially) was nuts. Super fun to watch and your build so far has been great (Ogryn is the last class Ive been getting to 30). Side question if anyone knows, Im new to Ogyrn and I suppose the game in general (on Xbox) but why is the cooldown (80s) on Point Blank Barrage so high? It doesn’t seem or feel game breaking (reload & fire rate buff w/ potentially toughness regen and burn if you spent into it).
nah for some reason the kickback gets a lot of ghost shots, it looks like it fired but didnt and doesnt do damage but didnt waste a shot, i imagine its an animation cancel thing tied to dodges and aiming on top of the games dodgy netcode
Its not worth it on anything, period. Take the achlyss stubber, which has 750 rounds maximally possible. Lets be generous and assume you have the 8% talent. The expected value is only 60 rounds. Thats a poultry amount. On the kickback or rumbler, or god forbid the gauntlet, youre expected to get fewer than 5 grenades if you expend all your ammo.
@@sturmmagnunstein1008 Isn't the point of the Lucky Shot keystone the "Crit" perk that comes after it? It is effectively extra crit chance for your gun and synergizes with certain blessings like charmed reload.
You mean lucky bullet? Because its a trap talent. Just so a quick math of 5% of 48 shells - i already did it, its 2.5 shells roughly. Lets be generous and make that 8% - 4 shells at most. Even for the stubbers the effect is negligible at best.
Anyone else upset how box o hurt is obsolete now? Rocks are basically better single target because you get 4 on a cd, and then pocket bomb is a better explosion than the box. Wtf.
Box of hurt has the same impact damage as rocks, and it has amazing CC capability. It is far less likely to not stagger the whole screen; frag bomb has a tendency of getting trapped on geometry and missing everything (shouldnt be a thing really), and you also only get 1.
Nice, I wouldn't go for Burst Limitter Overide Keystone myself, the returns are not worth it, even with a stubber. Feel No Pain or even Heavy Hitter would work better here.
This build is kind of a meme yeah. Shield is made for bleed and you miss it if you don't pick charge or taunt, and burst limiter is simply awful unless you are using the fast shooting stubber. I'm pretty sure he is handicapping himself to show that skill is more important than gear in this game, or just for fun. If not then yeah, not a great build even if you can make it work.
I kinda suspect choco was gonna name the video something like "new Kickback is awesome", saw that nearly all of his last vids are already called "x is y" and changed his mind, but forgot to delete the "is"
@@teeps7098Unironically, the best thing you can do for someone that’s learning another language is to nicely correct them when they make a mistake. If everyone thought like you, he would literally never know that it was grammatically incorrect because nobody would want to be “rude” and correct him. I’ve been learning Japanese for a few years now and I would much rather have someone correct me than not say anything and leave me to go on with mistakes and bad habits not knowing any better. DO be that guy.
@@teeps7098hes japanese. Also english isnt my first language either and it helped me immensely when people corrected my grammar. I figured since he posts entirely in english hes interested in learning too.
@@sturmmagnunstein1008 That makes sense. I only know English, and usually when I see someone correcting grammar online it's in an attempt to be annoying. Obviously that isn't the case here, so I'll take the L.
Kickback got turned into a very solid back pocket weapon for melee ogryn builds, but also an obscenely strong delete button for full on ranged builds, able to pop damnation shooters at a comfortable distance and tear huge chunks off anything up close
Ogryn finally has his own soup gun
I've been using The Kickback all weekend and I've decided it's my favorite weapon in the game. I have one with 75% Range and if you aim down sight, it's literally a sniper rifle. And if you have the Surgical blessing just wait about 2.5 seconds before firing your shot while aiming and you will one shot almost every enemy in sight. Keep up the great work chocoB. I absolutely love all of your builds on all classes. If it wasn't for you I probably wouldn't be playing this amazing game. Have a great day and thank you for everything you do.
:)
the fact you handle these comfortably solo is so impressive
It really isn't. The spawns are heavily reduced during solo play. His carry the dead team clips are much more impressive.
@@braisedtoast9002 >spawns are heavily reduced during solo play.
Where did you take this information from?
@@revolved.ocelot I have 1k hours in the game and exclusively play maelstrom. Watch his solo play vs his saving a whole team. The enemy density isn't even comparable.
@@braisedtoast9002 That is not true actually. Its simply a matter of his true solos are not on the hi-intensity shock troop gauntlet like his team clips are. The pacing looks comparable to just a normal damnation run with no modifier, meanwhile the next clip is during the hi-STG. Vermintide and Darktide both have zero player scaling, no matter the player count its always scaled to 4 player. Hence why technically are not suppose to be able to play completely solo thats why the game gives you bots and you have to mod the game to play like this. After 1k hours you think you would have noticed that?
@@mr1357989 the game absolutely scales
0:06 and 0:18 Mutant go ‘Weeeee!’😄
Very cool video and awesome gameplay.
Kickback is legit my favorite gun now. I run it with shield as well. Great combo!
That what i allways said. Even before the Update it was an amazing combo. But i got hated for that :D
I know it wasnt that strong, unlike now but the combo was allways S+
The mutant turning limp after being sniped with the rock at the start made me absolutely cackle! 🤣
Have you made a Darktide movement guide? Like, just watching you get such distance out of your slides and other tricks you do is amazing to watch.
Use slide.
That's about it. Just slide whenever possible and your movement will get much better. Including sliding after dodge.
@@SuperCatacata I've been incorporating slide, but never seem to get close the distances on the Dodge slide that he does. It's why I'd love a video on it.
@@TakoaI'm not sure if this applies here but I know that having a higher FOV makes it look like you're moving faster, and it does look like he has it higher than the default at least
11:35 mutant frickin FLEEWWW
yeah, i've been running shovel and kickback and rocks this past week. It's awesome. Rocks make up for short range of the kickback. It takes out most things except carapace.
I was so sad before, considering the Kickback was straight up useless compared to other options..
But I got so so happy when it got buffed recently, making it very much viable as a specialist killer/horde softener or as I like to call it "Ogryns revolver", quick switch, pop and back to melee!
Tis.....iz mah BOOMSTICK
*De-atomized the krutin' sod into mist
Love the kickback now very great on multiple builds
Kickback finally getting the love it deserves after all this time. Not many games let you shoot a punt gun for fun, but Darktide is one of them
Question, what’s your key mapping, your so fluid, it’s impressive and I’m trying to optimize as someone whose recently switched to mouse and keyboard.
I prefer the kickback for my main, something about how simple it is just fits like crazy.
Especially for Ogryn use.
Its just fun seeing everything explode into red mist.
Even the crushers get sent flying on their ass which never gets old
@@marcel-q1mThankfully it takes like 15 shots to kill a crusher. The one thing keeping this gun from being OP imo.
Less universal than the rumbler, but more ammo and better at horde.
Even when I'm 80 years old, seeing mutants get domed with a rock mid-charge will still be funny.
Light em up with the stubber is also nasty the burns nice
5:41 *crusher laugh* *then gets his head completely smashed in by a 300 pound shield*
13:18 Beautiful rock throw!
The absolute disrespect of throwing a rock at something just kills me every single time I see it. 😂
How do you do the crab walk thing with the shield. I love seeing it
reminds me of the sword shield blunderbuss build you did in vt2
Always love your videos great work, new to the game how were you canceling your attack chain so fast? 6:00
i believe they buffer a block input
How do you make it so team mates don't shoot and pop bursters when you are pushing them? I always get that "bug" hahaha
When you become a experienced player you Will be able to Tell If your team dps can consistently kill pop busters from afar and will not try to push them yourself.
@@daniloribeiro5372 i am an experienced player. It's not me going to push bursters they are shooting, it's them turning around and gunning a burster that is near me already that i need to push away
@@daniloribeiro5372When you become a more experienced player you will be able to turn around and just sprint away full force from the pox burster right in front of you knowing that if you show even the slightest intention of pushing it the whole squad will start blasting everything they got just to kill the burster.
Legit hard to choose weapons now as Ogryn main, almost everything is valid. I find myself swapping between most of them daily as they're all so fun.
Fr. Either I’m tearing through swathes of enemies with a Ripper, blasting a Stubber at max firerate, turning hordes into marinara with a kickback, or just going full melee on any of the amazing weapons.
キックバック楽しいですよね。
自分もガンナービルドの時はキックバック使ってます
怯み良し、弾数良し、火力良しでストレスフリーです
yea can i get that with egg fried rice, sweet n sour pork, prawns in black bean sauce and some mini springs rolls, prease.
@@squidribz4781chocob is japanese friendo. Its more surprising that more comments arent in japanese.
Very awesome build, even better if you can catch Choco live on stream :)
Getting the praise voiceline for killing a lot of enemies in short succession just by clicking once with the kickback is hilarious. "THAT'S why we bring an ogryn around" ... True he carries a literal medievil cannon no wonder
I'm playing with very similiar build right now and it works really well
Gold’n fuckin Emprah, that solo gameplay (especially) was nuts.
Super fun to watch and your build so far has been great (Ogryn is the last class Ive been getting to 30).
Side question if anyone knows, Im new to Ogyrn and I suppose the game in general (on Xbox) but why is the cooldown (80s) on Point Blank Barrage so high?
It doesn’t seem or feel game breaking (reload & fire rate buff w/ potentially toughness regen and burn if you spent into it).
Choco what region do you play?
great as always
5:37 Crusher getting mad lol
How do you adjust the angle of the shield when you have it up? Didn’t even know you could do that. What curios are you running?
Crouch
08:26 such a bully
Does ability cool-down reduction affect the rock recharge rate?
No, but it should.
Dumb question I guess, but how are you playing solo? It won't let me play Private matches alone.
You have to use mods
I think this is the first darktide build that's looked actually fun to play - too bad the game still doesn't run at any kind of reasonable framerate
2:37 was that a 'Lucky Bullet' trigger ?
Btw, nice gamplay ChocoB-san !!
nah for some reason the kickback gets a lot of ghost shots, it looks like it fired but didnt and doesnt do damage but didnt waste a shot, i imagine its an animation cancel thing tied to dodges and aiming on top of the games dodgy netcode
Lucky bullet is TERRIBLE on the kickback and rumbler unfortunately.
Should be a 30% chance for those guns at least
@@yungpark6435 i got these ghosts a lot with Helbore Lasgun
@@yungpark6435server desync.
just had a game where I "fired" the gun 4 times in a row in front of a trapper lol
Kickback would be even better if it had a bayonet like the Ripper Gun has.
11:33 Best part for me.
is there now solo mod or how can you do it? pls enlighten me
Why is the max toughness 95 in this video? Isnt ogryn base toughness 100? Im not aware of anything that decreases toughness
No. Ogryns start with like 70 base toughness but 300 health.
without wanting the nerf hammer, i feel like ogryns are by faaar the best class.
they only lacl a little horde controll imho
By seeing the name of your Ogryn I must ask, do you like fishing?
No tree build?
yes, people need to know ! awesome skin btw. i don't have that. why.
is lucky shot really worth it using a single fire weapon like this?
Its not worth it on anything, period. Take the achlyss stubber, which has 750 rounds maximally possible. Lets be generous and assume you have the 8% talent. The expected value is only 60 rounds. Thats a poultry amount. On the kickback or rumbler, or god forbid the gauntlet, youre expected to get fewer than 5 grenades if you expend all your ammo.
@@sturmmagnunstein1008 Isn't the point of the Lucky Shot keystone the "Crit" perk that comes after it? It is effectively extra crit chance for your gun and synergizes with certain blessings like charmed reload.
just me or is lucky bullet pretty underwhelming? especially compared to heavy hitter which is just amazing
You should try the rumbler, the thing melts bosses and absolutely fucks up any sort of hyper density that’s mixed with armor
gunlugger? GLUGGER!
Why not use instant reload on ult for double shot?
You mean lucky bullet? Because its a trap talent. Just so a quick math of 5% of 48 shells - i already did it, its 2.5 shells roughly. Lets be generous and make that 8% - 4 shells at most. Even for the stubbers the effect is negligible at best.
rofl no, you get a instant reload when you press ult @@sturmmagnunstein1008
Is that a new weapon skin? How to get that?
Weapon customization mod i think.
You can swap out parts of the guns.
@@marcel-q1m oh i c, thanks bro
How to play solo no bot?
Anyone else upset how box o hurt is obsolete now? Rocks are basically better single target because you get 4 on a cd, and then pocket bomb is a better explosion than the box. Wtf.
Box of hurt has the same impact damage as rocks, and it has amazing CC capability. It is far less likely to not stagger the whole screen; frag bomb has a tendency of getting trapped on geometry and missing everything (shouldnt be a thing really), and you also only get 1.
No boss dps is rough with this build tho
Nice, I wouldn't go for Burst Limitter Overide Keystone myself, the returns are not worth it, even with a stubber. Feel No Pain or even Heavy Hitter would work better here.
It's all about the gamba
This build is kind of a meme yeah. Shield is made for bleed and you miss it if you don't pick charge or taunt, and burst limiter is simply awful unless you are using the fast shooting stubber. I'm pretty sure he is handicapping himself to show that skill is more important than gear in this game, or just for fun. If not then yeah, not a great build even if you can make it work.
i still think the mk5 ripper outperforms kickback in any build where you dont use point blank barrage
Gotta be that guy, but just 'feels great' is grammatically correct. Thanks for the usual stellar content.
I don't think English is their first language. Don't be that guy.
I kinda suspect choco was gonna name the video something like "new Kickback is awesome", saw that nearly all of his last vids are already called "x is y" and changed his mind, but forgot to delete the "is"
@@teeps7098Unironically, the best thing you can do for someone that’s learning another language is to nicely correct them when they make a mistake. If everyone thought like you, he would literally never know that it was grammatically incorrect because nobody would want to be “rude” and correct him. I’ve been learning Japanese for a few years now and I would much rather have someone correct me than not say anything and leave me to go on with mistakes and bad habits not knowing any better. DO be that guy.
@@teeps7098hes japanese. Also english isnt my first language either and it helped me immensely when people corrected my grammar. I figured since he posts entirely in english hes interested in learning too.
@@sturmmagnunstein1008 That makes sense. I only know English, and usually when I see someone correcting grammar online it's in an attempt to be annoying. Obviously that isn't the case here, so I'll take the L.
The fact modders can make a solo experience and the devs can’t, for whatever lazy ass reason, astounds me.