As TripodProductions below has mentioned, the black cloud isn't the Black Smoke but is coming from the fire from the orange glow in the background. Although I was wrong about it being the Black Smoke, I guess, technically it's still the Martians that are causing the chaos that's causing the fire that's causing the smoke, so at least it's still the martians causing the sky to be black, so thankfully my 'symbolic analysis' isn't entirely invalidated lol. :)
@@littledrummer3 It's Team Green's War of the Worlds game. It's the newer version, not the legacy version, to be specific. Unfortunately, it has been cancelled.
It's really impressive how Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds brought us not only a great album but also Mike Trim's iconic artwork and tripod design, one of the most enduring there's ever been!! For a creepier one, here's the Gorey Tripods of Horror explained: ruclips.net/video/L3pKXkQi6j8/видео.html
Stuff like this both inspires and intimidates me. The extensive amount of detail that goes into these designs and the massive amount of effort and time over multiple different models with information you can miss over even years.
Yeah it's crazy how much detail is put into stuff like this. A lot of people seem to be like 'these things don't have to make sense, it's fictional', which I guess is true to a degree but I think it's way more impressive when actual thought and logic is put into such designs.
Another thing I like about the Martians in Jeff Wayne's version if we take the PC game as a source for information is the fact while they're cruel and treat humans as food and cattle, they did seem to be peaceful for centuries and only invaded out of a rushed desperation to survive, they seemed to have some form of direct democracy where a leader who fails is punished for their actions. Out of all the versions Martians seen throughout the adaptions these Martians likely could be the ones you could maybe negotiate with post failed Invasion.
Ahh that's interesting! I really must play that game, it sounds like it adds so much more to them. I've seen the other types of machines they use in the game, but I didn't know it fleshes out their civilization quite a bit!
Most of this comes from the Martian Intro for the game in their campaign. You can find it on RUclips easily enough. It does not go super deep into their culture or way of life, but it gives a look into it. @@pupbenny
Thank you very much! :) I was surprised when looking at the image while writing the video how much stuff I noticed that I hadn't before. I've only just realised now that it's kind of changed my perspective of the image quite a bit actually. Though I think I probably went too far in saying the black clouds were the Black Smoke, I think I was mistaken with that lol. But oh well. I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)
Major, happy nostalgia vibes from the artists and designers you showcase in this episode. I remember fondly their creations, album art, and the shows their work appeared in. ^_^V
This is one of my favorite depictions of the classic book by Wells, the Fighting Machine’s design is so iconic. It might not be the most faithful design, because Wells describes the Martians’ tripods as being striding glittering pieces of metal and at the same time act so much like a living organism. And the Mike Trim design looks pretty stiff, makes me think of a giant alien mech. But overall, I still love the design. Faithful or not. Edit: 13:27 I think that represents the human war power driving the martians out back to mars, thats my own theory tho.
Yes, in the book the Narrator's brother complains about an illustration he sees of a Fighting Machine, saying it is depicted as stiff and mechanical, and that whoever drew it almost certainly had not see one because in actuality the Martian Machines move much like living things, fluidly - espescially the Handling Machine.
Quite a great analysis video of one of my favourite adaptations of the tripod. I always love seeing your in depth looks at most tripods, stay fresh, love your videos keep it up, your doing great!
It's an odd thing; the Wayne versions have become inconic, but in the Wells book, one of the narrators complains about a drawing of a Fighting Machine he sees in a newspaper, saying that it was presented as being stuff and mechanical, and saying that whoever drew it likely hadn;t even seen one. Because the Martian Machines are described as being more like living things; espescially the Handling Machine. The Narrator notes that remarkably, the Martians make almost no use of the wheel or similar devices and draws a parallel with animals, as the wheel is virtually unknown in nature as well. The tripod "limbs" are described as articulated and flexible, and are moved by what are in essence artificial muscles, being similar to the octopus.
Yeah, I was wondering if it's 'antennas' were meant to be it's equivalent of tentacles, but not sure. It's definitely one of it's biggest inaccuracies.
@@pupbenny yeah, it's especially apparent when one of the characters mentions that Tripods picked up men and bashed them against trees. I'm guessing that the tentacles might be like the ones in Spielberg movie, where they extend from the machine, or get pulled back inside.
Oh god Im never gonna look at the thunder child battle the same again XD Tripod one: 'ooareya!? Stupid little so-*BANG!* Tripod two: oi oi lads, this little one's got some bite to 'is bark!! 'AVE 'IM!!!
As a child of the 1970's, there were only 2 versions of the "fighting machine" that I was familiar with . The flying "manta ray" version from the George Pal film -and this one from the "Jaff Wayne's...." album cover. A friend was given the album by his father and we would listen to it in his veranda when it was raining outside, whilst building Airfix model kits. As the years went by, (eventually I owned my own copy) I was transfixed by pictures on both the album cover and in the accompanying booklet. During the 1980's we fantasised about someone actually making a movie following both the artwork for the album and using it's music. Despite seeing many more depictions of the "fighting machine" in the following years, nothing compared to the one on that album cover. We would draw pictures in our note books at school instead of focusing on our lessons. However, decades later and despite it still being an iconic design- it's just not correct. As an adult in his 50's, having read the book numerous times, I no longer see this version as the "ultimate" depiction" the way I did for many, many years. Although I'm still very fond of it, having seen the Martin Bower designs, they seem closer to how I imagine them in my head whilst reading the description given by H G Wells.
Funnily enough, what introduced me to this Tripod was - ironically enough - a History Channel documentary about The War of the Worlds, which featured Jeff Wayne and this design of the Fighting Machine to me. I became enamored by the story itself and came to do as much research on it as I could, eventually finding the gem that was Jeff Wayne’s Musical Version of The War of The Worlds.
If I recall right, even in the booklet for the records, there was one inconsistency, and that was the depiction of the feet of the tripods. Sometimes, they were as described in the video here, three-fingered claws, while other times they were 'just' flat circles, like the picutre that showed the destroyed and decaying tripods and hexapods at the very end of the booklet. And I am pretty sure that in the picture of the priest holding his cross against the tripods, their bodies outside of view, the feet are not even there, but showing only stubby sticks on the ground.
I don't know if it's where I grew up in the states, but honestly despite having a lot of exposure to other British prog rock (Yes, Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, ELP, Rick Wakeman, etc) I had never seen or heard of this album until I was maybe in my 20s. I don't know if this was ever as iconic in the states, but I can only speak for myself and surrounding friends and family. In the US as far as I would ever see the 1953 George Pal War Machines were kind of the go-to until Spielberg's film. But then one evening on PBS, they showed the live version of this, and me and my dad watched some of it, and I loved the war machine design, and was kind of confused by what this was, and how I had never heard of it. Ultimately I ended up moving to the UK, where of course when you bring up War of the Worlds, everyone thinks of this record and all the related media. Somehow I love pretty much every Martian War Machine depiction I've seen, but this ranks very high to me. Love the green eyes, as it also feels like a bit of an homage to the George Pal film.
Ooooo-Raaaa!…. This version of the Martian tripod will always stay with me!…its ruthless eyes, cold metallic exterior and deadly Heat-Ray bringing fear,destruction and certain annihilation to all who stood in its way…Oooo-Raaaa!…another great presentation…more please
another baller video, glad to see trim getting some appreciation for once haha, you might also fancy the many different martian vehicles made for the jeff wayne pc game, of which I personally thing the scout and constrictor are the coolest.
There is also a very hard PC strategy game based upon jeff waynes musical. It has multiple versions of the martian walkers. The game is also in real time (a day in game matches a day in real life) but it's possible to play it a littlebit quicker.
Based off of my last comment, it shouldn't be a surprise that I love art direction as it relates to sci-fi films. And I think that's what I've always loved about the "Trimpods", even if I didn't know the full story when I first saw them back in my middle school years. There was enough thought put into them that I could believe they were real. They could move in a way that would feel real. And while I concede that the design is not the most book accurate, I feel that it keeps the spirit of the book alive by being very much a "mechanical monster." It's a giant scary metal spider-mosquito-fly monster and it's coming for you. Excellent video! I look forward to the rest that are to follow!
Thank you very much! :) I absolutely agree, it's amazing how much thought was put into this design! It adds so much realism to it that I think a lot of other designs lack. Arguably it doesn't need to be realistic, due to it being an alien machine, but I think it enhances the impact of it and is probably a reason why it's so iconic.
@@pupbenny I agree that sci-fi/alien designs don't have to be realistic, but I'd counter with that it helps immerse you into the world. It doesn't have to look like something we could make today, but if it follow the same physics that we're used to, it's easier for our brains to accept it and get engaged with the story. Once again, thank you for all of these great analysis videos! They've been quite the highlight when I see one in my feed!
There are definitely parallels between the composition of the album cover and the scene in Godzilla King of the Monsters called "Rodan's awakening", especially toward the end. You've got humanity sending a beast to fight a beast, you've got King Ghidorah as the three headed alien threat as opposed to three legged, the division in the sky when they face eachother, the clouds, the sea, the destruction of military hardware and the victory of the invader by way of beaming their opponent. Legendary pictures surely took cues from this artwork. Uncanny.
No since they would stray away from the story and make it unrecognisable because that’s what TRIPLE A war games always do, stray away from realism, so they would definitely stray away from what war of the worlds is
@@BLOOXEY I’m just saying imagine a game Like Battlefield 1 with World War 1 type weaponry but it’s War of the Worlds you have 2 story campaigns Human 🪖 or Martian 🐙 and an online multiplayer Where its Humans VS Martians and the humans have WW1 Weponry like Churchill Tanks or WW1 Artillery or Armoured trains and Battleships and some reversed engineered alien weapons as killstreaks and the Martians have Martian fighting machines aka tripods with Heat Rays deadly black Smoke poison gas and Red Weed and flying machines and crab/ spider like Handleing Machines
I'd love to see a version with a bunch of different incarnations together. Maybe these ones are the cheap, mass produced type and the taller, segmented ones like in League of Extraordinarily Gentlemen are command and control units.
Would you ever make a video about the pendragon pictures version of the war of the worlds? I have never seen anybody ever talk about it. Great video by the way!
@@pupbenny I recommend the directors cut (special edition) version over the original version. It cuts out nearly an hour of unneeded walking....walking and more walking.
I believe this might be the only place I will find validation, but I recall a mockumentary adaption of War of the Worlds, where the Martians caused that universe's version of World War 1 It was called the Great Martian War, and it's been percolating in my brain since I saw it years ago and no one has ever acknowledged it. The Tripods in that were fantastic
Absolutely! Not only do I remember it but I'm actually in the middle of rewatching it as of a few days ago! I watched it twice around the time it came out, which I guess was over a decade ago now I've just realised. It's still just as fantastic as I remember! It's remarkable how realistic and well done it is for a mockumentary. I'll be doing videos of it definitely. :) (Hence why I'm taking so long rewatching it, I'm writing down notes as I go lol.)
This is my definitive mental image of them. And yeah, if we can get an American tour of the live show, thatd be great. Anyways, got linked to this after watching the video on the george pal movie variant. I wll add here, and possibly thete if i can get back to it, that thise ate considered tripods as well, though they appear to float. The concrpt was they walked on legs of energy,and in fact, in 1 single scene, the effect is shown where you can see a faint glitter effect passting from the 3 spots on the underside to the grounf, and slarks where the beams meet the ground. Iirc the rffect ptoved too difficult to maintain, and was only used in the one scene. So indeed, the george pal mant ray machines had 3 legs they walked upon, making them also legit tripods.
They remind me of creatures called triops. Not just because of the name, but the overall shape of the hull and the "fins" at the rear of it. And of course the eyes
Thank you! :) And absolutely, 1953 versions are going to be my next one, already written and recorded it, now just a lot of editing to do. :) Might be a few weeks, depending on how busy I am, not sure yet.
Yeah I realised while editing that it probably was not the black smoke. hadn't considered it was the fire though, that's a good point! and technically I guess that would mean it's still the martians that are causing the chaos that's causing the fire that's causing the smoke, so at least it's still the martians causing the sky to be black haha.
It;s only just occurred to me after 40 odd years..... the picture is the wrong way round......the ship should be heading into night with the sunset behind the Martian.....if you consider the end of the chapter.
You know I like the 1953 version the best. The flimsy walkers don't seem that practical tho oddly the smoke death cloud thing they tend to have is way more effective at wiping out populations that the direct fire only flying war machine.
I don't think I did, can't be bothered to check the video though. If I didn't, I don't think you're crazy, you probably just zoned out when I was talking about Geoff Taylor and zoned back in after I said Mike Trim painted the cover. Geoff Taylor did paint the tripod inside the cover though.
I love how, during the Live concert/DVD, the martian lands on stage and dominates from then on, much as they do in the story. Did you notice in the Tom Cruise movie how the US military is what beats them? fail.
I always found the design to be one of the most underwhelming. I know a lot of folks love it and find it iconic and spooky but it just doesn't seem alien or intimidating enough. But if you love keep on lovin' it I honestly wish I could see what you see in it.
Could someone get copyrighted if they use the designs for a game? I am making a scratch game based on jeff waynes wotw but I might make my own version due to just getting the original book.
They could, I'm pretty sure, but whether that would actually happen or not it's hard to be certain. I think it'd depend on whether you were intending to release the game for free or sell it. If it's for free, then (though I'm not certain) I'd imagine they likely wouldn't bother. Either way, I guess it's probably best to make your own designs just to be safe.
Its no wonder you don't know The Secret Service. The only people who know it are the hard-core Anderson fans who usually gather together to point and laugh at it.
For the longest time I thought their legs went down to a point like a stilt. When I saw them in the game with their plate-like feet I thought it made them look goofy but Mike's three toes do look better.
Interestingly, Peter Goodfellow's 'Parson Nathaniel' image in the album's booklet portrays them with kind of stilt legs like you describe. Not sure why he deviated from the 'microphone stand' legs specified by Mike. Will have a video about that in about two weeks.
Completely wrong in every way, yet somehow absolutely brilliant. My least favourite thing is the fixed heat ray projector. But the best thing by far......they're effing MASSIVE......like 5 times the size they should be. I instantly based my scale of them on that cover (it was also on my copy of the novel)......with the body the size of a heavy destroyer and the rear leg vanishing off behind the pier......the book's 100 footers seemed tiny :D Trim also designed a LOT of stuff for UFO.....the interceptor has some definite fighting machine DNA
The Migthy Buggy Trimpods!! Damn this Change and explain everything! Trully for a Toy Designs merchandising! Intruiged to those others Designs too! Also i cant wait to see your Review of the Warl of the World TV Series (1988s - 1990s) !!! 🪖👽🦟🇬🇧❣️
As TripodProductions below has mentioned, the black cloud isn't the Black Smoke but is coming from the fire from the orange glow in the background. Although I was wrong about it being the Black Smoke, I guess, technically it's still the Martians that are causing the chaos that's causing the fire that's causing the smoke, so at least it's still the martians causing the sky to be black, so thankfully my 'symbolic analysis' isn't entirely invalidated lol. :)
what was that tripod game you were playing
@@littledrummer3 It's Team Green's War of the Worlds game. It's the newer version, not the legacy version, to be specific. Unfortunately, it has been cancelled.
I’ve always imagined these tripods to be something like a Martian version of a tank with how metallic it is.
Yeah plus the turret! I do like how these versions really do resemble military machines.
It's really impressive how Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds brought us not only a great album but also Mike Trim's iconic artwork and tripod design, one of the most enduring there's ever been!!
For a creepier one, here's the Gorey Tripods of Horror explained:
ruclips.net/video/L3pKXkQi6j8/видео.html
why didn't you do me firstly..
@@jeffwaynetripod169 Is it you😀
@@Josh_the_Fighting_Machine yes 🤯
Stuff like this both inspires and intimidates me. The extensive amount of detail that goes into these designs and the massive amount of effort and time over multiple different models with information you can miss over even years.
Yeah it's crazy how much detail is put into stuff like this. A lot of people seem to be like 'these things don't have to make sense, it's fictional', which I guess is true to a degree but I think it's way more impressive when actual thought and logic is put into such designs.
Another thing I like about the Martians in Jeff Wayne's version if we take the PC game as a source for information is the fact while they're cruel and treat humans as food and cattle, they did seem to be peaceful for centuries and only invaded out of a rushed desperation to survive, they seemed to have some form of direct democracy where a leader who fails is punished for their actions. Out of all the versions Martians seen throughout the adaptions these Martians likely could be the ones you could maybe negotiate with post failed Invasion.
Ahh that's interesting! I really must play that game, it sounds like it adds so much more to them. I've seen the other types of machines they use in the game, but I didn't know it fleshes out their civilization quite a bit!
Most of this comes from the Martian Intro for the game in their campaign. You can find it on RUclips easily enough. It does not go super deep into their culture or way of life, but it gives a look into it. @@pupbenny
@pupbenny it's difficult to.get hold of its not on steam :( I'd love to play it again and I think you'd love it to if you get a chance to play it
It is on abandonware, and there are many good videos on YT about getting it running fine on Windows 10.@@davidknight2104
@@davidknight2104I bought a secondhand copy of it off of eBay for £13.
i prefer THIS design over any other
i grew up with this design and it will always be my favourite
You've 100% nailed it. The details can be easy to miss and You've pointed out a few things that I hadn't realised. Awesome stuff 🎉😂🎉
Thank you very much! :) I was surprised when looking at the image while writing the video how much stuff I noticed that I hadn't before. I've only just realised now that it's kind of changed my perspective of the image quite a bit actually. Though I think I probably went too far in saying the black clouds were the Black Smoke, I think I was mistaken with that lol. But oh well. I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)
Major, happy nostalgia vibes from the artists and designers you showcase in this episode. I remember fondly their creations, album art, and the shows their work appeared in. ^_^V
This is one of my favorite depictions of the classic book by Wells, the Fighting Machine’s design is so iconic. It might not be the most faithful design, because Wells describes the Martians’ tripods as being striding glittering pieces of metal and at the same time act so much like a living organism. And the Mike Trim design looks pretty stiff, makes me think of a giant alien mech. But overall, I still love the design. Faithful or not.
Edit: 13:27 I think that represents the human war power driving the martians out back to mars, thats my own theory tho.
Yes, in the book the Narrator's brother complains about an illustration he sees of a Fighting Machine, saying it is depicted as stiff and mechanical, and that whoever drew it almost certainly had not see one because in actuality the Martian Machines move much like living things, fluidly - espescially the Handling Machine.
@@richardgregory3684That is indeed very true.
7:17 Why is no one even talking about THE UTTERLY ADORABLE HANDLING MACHINE JUST DOING CHRISTMAS SHENANIGANS!!!!!
Oh my god! It's so cute! The lamp next to it is the Electronic Eye from the 1953 version too!!!
The legs has those circles they had in the musical use triangle cyan
9:45 was hilarious good one
Quite a great analysis video of one of my favourite adaptations of the tripod. I always love seeing your in depth looks at most tripods, stay fresh, love your videos keep it up, your doing great!
Thank you so much greedo! :) I appreciate that immensely, I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's one of my favourites too, so iconic!
9:35 OH YOU WANNA FIGHT THEN (gets melted)
It's an odd thing; the Wayne versions have become inconic, but in the Wells book, one of the narrators complains about a drawing of a Fighting Machine he sees in a newspaper, saying that it was presented as being stuff and mechanical, and saying that whoever drew it likely hadn;t even seen one. Because the Martian Machines are described as being more like living things; espescially the Handling Machine. The Narrator notes that remarkably, the Martians make almost no use of the wheel or similar devices and draws a parallel with animals, as the wheel is virtually unknown in nature as well. The tripod "limbs" are described as articulated and flexible, and are moved by what are in essence artificial muscles, being similar to the octopus.
Wonderful design, but I do feel like it's missing the tentacles, which are such an iconic part of the design.
Yeah, I was wondering if it's 'antennas' were meant to be it's equivalent of tentacles, but not sure. It's definitely one of it's biggest inaccuracies.
@@pupbenny yeah, it's especially apparent when one of the characters mentions that Tripods picked up men and bashed them against trees. I'm guessing that the tentacles might be like the ones in Spielberg movie, where they extend from the machine, or get pulled back inside.
16:35 for cat
Oh god Im never gonna look at the thunder child battle the same again XD
Tripod one: 'ooareya!? Stupid little so-*BANG!*
Tripod two: oi oi lads, this little one's got some bite to 'is bark!! 'AVE 'IM!!!
are you gonna do a video on the Heron and other machines in The Great Martian War or is there too little info?
Just the name, “ThunderChild” is too badass for a Victorian battleship 😂
As a child of the 1970's, there were only 2 versions of the "fighting machine" that I was familiar with . The flying "manta ray" version from the George Pal film -and this one from the "Jaff Wayne's...." album cover. A friend was given the album by his father and we would listen to it in his veranda when it was raining outside, whilst building Airfix model kits. As the years went by, (eventually I owned my own copy) I was transfixed by pictures on both the album cover and in the accompanying booklet. During the 1980's we fantasised about someone actually making a movie following both the artwork for the album and using it's music. Despite seeing many more depictions of the "fighting machine" in the following years, nothing compared to the one on that album cover. We would draw pictures in our note books at school instead of focusing on our lessons.
However, decades later and despite it still being an iconic design- it's just not correct. As an adult in his 50's, having read the book numerous times, I no longer see this version as the "ultimate" depiction" the way I did for many, many years. Although I'm still very fond of it, having seen the Martin Bower designs, they seem closer to how I imagine them in my head whilst reading the description given by H G Wells.
There is a book called second war of the world's and it's cover is what I imagine the tripods look like in the book
Funnily enough, what introduced me to this Tripod was - ironically enough - a History Channel documentary about The War of the Worlds, which featured Jeff Wayne and this design of the Fighting Machine to me.
I became enamored by the story itself and came to do as much research on it as I could, eventually finding the gem that was Jeff Wayne’s Musical Version of The War of The Worlds.
If I recall right, even in the booklet for the records, there was one inconsistency, and that was the depiction of the feet of the tripods. Sometimes, they were as described in the video here, three-fingered claws, while other times they were 'just' flat circles, like the picutre that showed the destroyed and decaying tripods and hexapods at the very end of the booklet. And I am pretty sure that in the picture of the priest holding his cross against the tripods, their bodies outside of view, the feet are not even there, but showing only stubby sticks on the ground.
I always was a fan of Classics Illustrated War of the Worlds tripods.
I don't know if it's where I grew up in the states, but honestly despite having a lot of exposure to other British prog rock (Yes, Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, ELP, Rick Wakeman, etc) I had never seen or heard of this album until I was maybe in my 20s. I don't know if this was ever as iconic in the states, but I can only speak for myself and surrounding friends and family. In the US as far as I would ever see the 1953 George Pal War Machines were kind of the go-to until Spielberg's film. But then one evening on PBS, they showed the live version of this, and me and my dad watched some of it, and I loved the war machine design, and was kind of confused by what this was, and how I had never heard of it. Ultimately I ended up moving to the UK, where of course when you bring up War of the Worlds, everyone thinks of this record and all the related media. Somehow I love pretty much every Martian War Machine depiction I've seen, but this ranks very high to me. Love the green eyes, as it also feels like a bit of an homage to the George Pal film.
Ooooo-Raaaa!…. This version of the Martian tripod will always stay with me!…its ruthless eyes, cold metallic exterior and deadly Heat-Ray bringing fear,destruction and certain annihilation to all who stood in its way…Oooo-Raaaa!…another great presentation…more please
YESSSSS I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS 😭😭😭
The Jeff Wayne / Mike Trim tripod design is my favourite
I like that someone is doing videos of these. Reminds me a lot of people reviewing Godzilla suit designs.
I will ALWAYS see these as the quintisential Martian Fighting machine. I was raised on this album! I know it ALL off by heart! Wonderful
I think that the 2 ears of the fighting machine are search lights so if it gets dark the Martians can still see
I always thought that too! did some drawings of them being used a while ago
Yeah that's true, especially on 'The New Generation' artwork of these designs seems to use it that way.
another baller video, glad to see trim getting some appreciation for once haha, you might also fancy the many different martian vehicles made for the jeff wayne pc game, of which I personally thing the scout and constrictor are the coolest.
Ha, thank you! :) Yeah I'd love to do a video about the pc game. I haven't played it yet, but it's something I've been meaning to look into haha.
Got that album sitting on my shelf. I played the Thunder Child track so many times the needle has almost cut through the vinyl!
There is also a very hard PC strategy game based upon jeff waynes musical. It has multiple versions of the martian walkers. The game is also in real time (a day in game matches a day in real life) but it's possible to play it a littlebit quicker.
I hope to play that game soon, it sounds very interesting. :)
Do you happen to have a name or download source of this game?
I am planning to one day do my own adaptation of War of the Worlds. When I do, would you like to review it and analyze my designs?
Sure, that sounds interesting! Good luck with it! :)
Based off of my last comment, it shouldn't be a surprise that I love art direction as it relates to sci-fi films. And I think that's what I've always loved about the "Trimpods", even if I didn't know the full story when I first saw them back in my middle school years. There was enough thought put into them that I could believe they were real. They could move in a way that would feel real. And while I concede that the design is not the most book accurate, I feel that it keeps the spirit of the book alive by being very much a "mechanical monster." It's a giant scary metal spider-mosquito-fly monster and it's coming for you. Excellent video! I look forward to the rest that are to follow!
Thank you very much! :) I absolutely agree, it's amazing how much thought was put into this design! It adds so much realism to it that I think a lot of other designs lack. Arguably it doesn't need to be realistic, due to it being an alien machine, but I think it enhances the impact of it and is probably a reason why it's so iconic.
@@pupbenny I agree that sci-fi/alien designs don't have to be realistic, but I'd counter with that it helps immerse you into the world. It doesn't have to look like something we could make today, but if it follow the same physics that we're used to, it's easier for our brains to accept it and get engaged with the story. Once again, thank you for all of these great analysis videos! They've been quite the highlight when I see one in my feed!
There are definitely parallels between the composition of the album cover and the scene in Godzilla King of the Monsters called "Rodan's awakening", especially toward the end. You've got humanity sending a beast to fight a beast, you've got King Ghidorah as the three headed alien threat as opposed to three legged, the division in the sky when they face eachother, the clouds, the sea, the destruction of military hardware and the victory of the invader by way of beaming their opponent. Legendary pictures surely took cues from this artwork. Uncanny.
7:05 Ive always thought the jeff wayne machines looked like weevils with their heatrays
Yeah that's true!
0:24 we need a war of the worlds battle field game
Yes
No since they would stray away from the story and make it unrecognisable because that’s what TRIPLE A war games always do, stray away from realism, so they would definitely stray away from what war of the worlds is
@@BLOOXEY I’m just saying imagine a game Like Battlefield 1 with World War 1 type weaponry but it’s War of the Worlds you have 2 story campaigns Human 🪖 or Martian 🐙 and an online multiplayer Where its Humans VS Martians and the humans have WW1 Weponry like Churchill Tanks or WW1 Artillery or Armoured trains and Battleships and some reversed engineered alien weapons as killstreaks and the Martians have Martian fighting machines aka tripods with Heat Rays deadly black Smoke poison gas and Red Weed and flying machines and crab/ spider like Handleing Machines
@@garethalford682 ok
There's a Roblox game like that being developed, it's called war of the worlds retold.
We see them as machines but if they’re manufacturing custom arthropods then their machines all getting sick makes sense!
I'd love to see a version with a bunch of different incarnations together. Maybe these ones are the cheap, mass produced type and the taller, segmented ones like in League of Extraordinarily Gentlemen are command and control units.
Fantastic video 🤓
I would love to see a theme park based on War of the worlds. imagine stearing a fighting machine or Thunderchild :)
Did Trim design any of the additional machines in the RTS game?
That's a good question! I'm not sure, but I've been meaning to play that game to do a video about it, so it'll be interesting to find out.
Would you ever make a video about the pendragon pictures version of the war of the worlds? I have never seen anybody ever talk about it. Great video by the way!
Thank you! It's on my list of videos to do, although I haven't seen it yet. But when I do, I intend to do a video on it. :)
Understood
@@pupbenny I recommend the directors cut (special edition) version over the original version. It cuts out nearly an hour of unneeded walking....walking and more walking.
I believe this might be the only place I will find validation, but I recall a mockumentary adaption of War of the Worlds, where the Martians caused that universe's version of World War 1
It was called the Great Martian War, and it's been percolating in my brain since I saw it years ago and no one has ever acknowledged it.
The Tripods in that were fantastic
Absolutely! Not only do I remember it but I'm actually in the middle of rewatching it as of a few days ago! I watched it twice around the time it came out, which I guess was over a decade ago now I've just realised. It's still just as fantastic as I remember! It's remarkable how realistic and well done it is for a mockumentary. I'll be doing videos of it definitely. :) (Hence why I'm taking so long rewatching it, I'm writing down notes as I go lol.)
This is my definitive mental image of them. And yeah, if we can get an American tour of the live show, thatd be great. Anyways, got linked to this after watching the video on the george pal movie variant. I wll add here, and possibly thete if i can get back to it, that thise ate considered tripods as well, though they appear to float. The concrpt was they walked on legs of energy,and in fact, in 1 single scene, the effect is shown where you can see a faint glitter effect passting from the 3 spots on the underside to the grounf, and slarks where the beams meet the ground. Iirc the rffect ptoved too difficult to maintain, and was only used in the one scene. So indeed, the george pal mant ray machines had 3 legs they walked upon, making them also legit tripods.
Jeff Waynes design is my favorite design
The tripods from the Pendragon film
were pretty impressive as well.
(Too bad the movie was overly long,
& suffered from subpar editing.)
They remind me of creatures called triops. Not just because of the name, but the overall shape of the hull and the "fins" at the rear of it. And of course the eyes
Enjoyed the explanation a lot 🔥. do you think you can do the next one on the tripods from George pals 1953 movie.
Thank you! :) And absolutely, 1953 versions are going to be my next one, already written and recorded it, now just a lot of editing to do. :) Might be a few weeks, depending on how busy I am, not sure yet.
You sound like the artillery man throughout your narration, fearful of the war machines.
Been waiting for this!
Hi great video
Thank you! :)
2:38 What's that game? D:
9:50 bro became a real B R I T
Really good explanation!
Thank you! :)
@@pupbenny Your welcome! I actually kinda like the unused Martian Design for Jeff Waynes WOTW. Looks Awesome
11:15 pup im sorry but that is not the black smoke its fire if you look down at the bottem you can see a orange glow and the smoke is from the fire
Yeah I realised while editing that it probably was not the black smoke. hadn't considered it was the fire though, that's a good point! and technically I guess that would mean it's still the martians that are causing the chaos that's causing the fire that's causing the smoke, so at least it's still the martians causing the sky to be black haha.
@@pupbenny wow someone thinks im smart :3
It;s only just occurred to me after 40 odd years..... the picture is the wrong way round......the ship should be heading into night with the sunset behind the Martian.....if you consider the end of the chapter.
You know I like the 1953 version the best. The flimsy walkers don't seem that practical tho oddly the smoke death cloud thing they tend to have is way more effective at wiping out populations that the direct fire only flying war machine.
You should do a video on the other wotw machines.
Also, UULLLLAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
For me the tripods looked more like daddy long legs to me
Yeah that's true! There's so many animal inspirations. :)
What’s to explain?
A tripod can never walk. That's the problem I have with these things. From a physics view it's impossible. The book is one of the finest I ever read.
Am i crazy or did you explain that geoff taylor painted the cover tripod?
I don't think I did, can't be bothered to check the video though. If I didn't, I don't think you're crazy, you probably just zoned out when I was talking about Geoff Taylor and zoned back in after I said Mike Trim painted the cover. Geoff Taylor did paint the tripod inside the cover though.
I love how, during the Live concert/DVD, the martian lands on stage and dominates from then on, much as they do in the story.
Did you notice in the Tom Cruise movie how the US military is what beats them? fail.
I always found the design to be one of the most underwhelming. I know a lot of folks love it and find it iconic and spooky but it just doesn't seem alien or intimidating enough. But if you love keep on lovin' it I honestly wish I could see what you see in it.
I have trouble with this design because it looks more like something NASA would build than the Martians would.
Could someone get copyrighted if they use the designs for a game?
I am making a scratch game based on jeff waynes wotw but I might make my own version due to just getting the original book.
They could, I'm pretty sure, but whether that would actually happen or not it's hard to be certain. I think it'd depend on whether you were intending to release the game for free or sell it. If it's for free, then (though I'm not certain) I'd imagine they likely wouldn't bother. Either way, I guess it's probably best to make your own designs just to be safe.
@@pupbenny OK. My designs look like Correa and the other tripod. I forgot the name.
The jellyfish tripod with spiral eyes.
@@pupbenny thanks for the info btw
@@pupbenny imagine if scratch gets copyright striked and they have to ban all wotw games because of the amount of 2005 and 1978 tripod games on it
9:35
Well time to animate this lol
JEFF WAYNE HAD DESTROYS GEF
What's the game at 2:30? That looks like fun!
GelatoDev's War of the Worlds game demo on Itch io. :) I'm not sure what the current state of it is like though.
Its no wonder you don't know The Secret Service. The only people who know it are the hard-core Anderson fans who usually gather together to point and laugh at it.
Benny, what's with the weird accents when quoting others? Almost sounds mocking. :D
9:33
He kinda went full bri'sh there.
artwork was also made by Peter Elson
I never liked the design, for me, its too unflexible, BUT I really like the autor
For the longest time I thought their legs went down to a point like a stilt. When I saw them in the game with their plate-like feet I thought it made them look goofy but Mike's three toes do look better.
Interestingly, Peter Goodfellow's 'Parson Nathaniel' image in the album's booklet portrays them with kind of stilt legs like you describe. Not sure why he deviated from the 'microphone stand' legs specified by Mike. Will have a video about that in about two weeks.
Completely wrong in every way, yet somehow absolutely brilliant. My least favourite thing is the fixed heat ray projector. But the best thing by far......they're effing MASSIVE......like 5 times the size they should be. I instantly based my scale of them on that cover (it was also on my copy of the novel)......with the body the size of a heavy destroyer and the rear leg vanishing off behind the pier......the book's 100 footers seemed tiny :D
Trim also designed a LOT of stuff for UFO.....the interceptor has some definite fighting machine DNA
Uuuullllllllllaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!
The Migthy Buggy Trimpods!! Damn this Change and explain everything! Trully for a Toy Designs merchandising! Intruiged to those others Designs too! Also i cant wait to see your Review of the Warl of the World TV Series (1988s - 1990s) !!! 🪖👽🦟🇬🇧❣️
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I think I'm also the 25th of 24th View too
Controversial take, I like the Dean art better
1:20 - what is that game?
Four minutes in and despite it being a rather wonderful subject, it must be AI, the start of every word is so sharp and uncomfortable to listen to
Seems like a you problem.
Ulla!!!
10th like?
Rubbish