The BBC Tripods are not one of my favourites, but there's definitely a lot to explain with them considering how unique they are. I was surprised at how complicated and in-depth their mechanisms were and that actual logic had been developed for them, apparently.
How you explained the pushing/pulling/flexing crystal elements when they take a step is very novel, and reminds me of how the Citadel in Half Life 2 sort of consumes the landscape around it in similar but more mechanical fashion.
@@makeitsonumberone1358Agreed..It was all from his girlfriend Amy's perspective, while George's manhood was being removed each episode.. He is then portrayed as a wimp.. In the book, the female character is packed off to safety aboard a steamboat, and has no real part in the invasion... They even managed to find and rescue a young black girl, reduce the Thunderchild to a cameo, and then omitted every key scary moment from the original story...Wow!
Something interesting came to mind when you were talking about the Production Team's approach to the machines. Doug Chiang, the design director for Star Wars Episode 1, spoke about having done a series of designs and having a favorite. Then George Lucas walked in and approved 2 or 3 of the designs, none of them being the favorite. Doug later asked George why and George explained that "the design have to live by themselves... the audience has to connect with it right away. They have to know its personality, they have to know its function, they have to know where the pilot sits. All those things in less than 3 seconds. And if you can do that in a design with no explanation, the design will be that much more powerful." And so taking that philosophy into account, its interesting to see how the design of the BBC "Tree" Tripods kind of fail because a lot of that function is not going to be seen by all of the audience on their first viewing. I sympathize with the BBC Production Team because I know I'm the same way creatively. I put a lot of thought into the details even though I know it's not necessarily going to be seen in the final product. But it's interesting to consider that had more time been given to highlight the details the Production Team came op with, the design might have connected with more of the audience. All in all, I love these deep dives into the War of the Worlds and the various adaptations. Thank you for making such great content! I look forward to your next video!
Thank you, and yeah I totally agree! :) I really love your comparison with the Star Wars design philosophy. I was thinking while making this how it's incredible how little is explained about them in this version to a degree where it makes them too alien and unfeasible, arguably. I can make a 20+ minute video explaining them and still don't have all the answers, even though the design team apparently came up with actual logic for them. It's a shame the audience didn't get to see more of that and connect with them on a greater level as a result, potentially.
Probably a dumb opinion of mine but while I really do like the BBC tripods design, I am kind of disappointed they have no tentacles for capturing people
These Tripods are a crystalline in their design. We see them constantly shedding crystals off their bodies through out the story. Presumably these are being replace like our skin does. When the spheres arrived they must have planted crystals in the ground that grew into their version of fighting machines from the novel
the theory of which it highlights and targets anything that touches it is such a good theory. Because its similar how some plants work by when a animal or such damages the plant, it either leaves some sort of stench/indentifyer, to attract and or other bugs and whatnot
The way it looked to me was that the sphere lands, breaks off its outer shell that protected it during reentry, then dislodges its payload, the cockpit and pilot, into the ground, it then rises up and disintegrates. During this the touch and smearing effect could be part of the defensive mechanism you theorized and to make everyone believe the sphere itself is the target so they don't investigate the landing site further. Everyone witnessing thinks it's destroyed so they leave and in the meantime, the cockpit with the pilot in the ground absorbs local minerals to make the tripod and comes out of the ground. In that regard I feel like the mechanism is better than the Spielberg design because THAT relies on Tripods being buried on Earth for thousands of years and hoping nobody ever finds them somehow.
I was talking about the older BBC tripods series from 1984-1985, sorry that there was a mix-up with my suggestion but a great video none the less, keep going at it, your doing great!
Well that's ok, I would love to see a video of them in the future, and like all your other tripod videos, this one was an impeccable analysis of the 2019 BBC war of the worlds, I'm excited to see more!
Your on about BBC's The Tripods, yeah seen it well made for the time. Did you know the red 'war' laser carrying tripods where a show only invention along with the black guard.
i really wish they stuck to the original designs for the tripod considering h.g wells had some pretty wacky designs the water tower tripods are my favorite
H.G. Wells never laid down an exact design for the Tripods. The first designs, the 'water towers', were reviled by H.G. Wells, who even went so far as to make additions to the story when it was adapted to a novel, to the effect that 'observations and sketches by some authors, who weren't versed in the appearance of the Martian machines, looking as stiff as water towers, should be ignored.'
The Tripod design is very interesting and unique, I did not mind it as another interpretation of the Tripods for WOTW. But the Show itself really did not do them justice though, since the poor story never really focused on the Martian invasion and they're are very rarely on screen doing much. So many great scenes with them where cut from the book in the show, like their battle with the Army using heavy artillery near the river town, and then we got a half baked Thunderchild/navy scene. The Martians themselves where let downs as well, just terrible honestly. Got to this design credit for the Tripods being the only ones with book accurate invisible heat rays that only be seen by the fizzle effect they do to the very air and burn the ground as it is fired.
personal theory is that thatthe Red Weed itself is the Martians , they never left , they're still there , a hive mind fungi that uses other living beings or the "machines" to spread itself and become bigger , a race that has evovled beyond ego so much that they're only that , the red weed and the crystals, though i cannot be sure of how much ground this holds
The Tripedal creatures in the series don't convey to me the feeling of "walking brains" that the original Martians from the book did. How would those creatures evolve and build tools if they have no limbs for grasping and fine manipulation? They show basic intelligence but don't seem like mental giants capable of understanding complex math and physics on the quantum level. I feel like those creatures were Bioengineered with the function of searching for humans in locations that the fighting machines could not. Perhaps they arrived in a separate transportation system in suspended animation. I believe the tripedal creatures sent to earth are to the martians as dogs are to humans. our species employs dogs for hunting and herding livestock in farms, the real martians could have envisioned a similar concept once they were sure the earth was subdued and safe for their migration. These creatures could be used to track down humans, kill some to feed themselves and herd the rest to the farms where the martians would harvest blood and breed humans the same way we do to farm animals (each generation would be easier than the previous to control as there would probably be no form of education for humans, perhaps even communication would eventually return to the way primitive humans used to do)
Indeed! It really was a "What the Hell" Series!! I think this is the most bizarre, surreal and coherent reinterpretation of the original novel! Intriguing comparison, technological details and final conclusions! The only thing I disliked about this series was that the Tripods lacked the iconic tentacles, their anticlimatic development (Remainds me to that Goliath Film too) and the design of the supposed Martians! But I like the idea of more advanced organic tripods at molecular levels! Have you ever heard of the Scarlet Traces Comic?
The heat ray effects were good, and right up until the 'cylinder opened' it was going quite well, after that it just fell apart very quickly, which was a shame because it at least had the setting and the era right unlike 95% of the adaptations.
I read the descriptions of The War Of The Worlds and it says that this takes place in 1905 and chronologiclly a 100 years later it is 2005, the same year when the Steven Spielberg War Of The Worlds took place (Allegdly) so the 2019 War Of The Worlds might actually be a recconaisne and the Spielberg War Of The Worlds might be the actual invasion of the Martians.
Actually, the Invasion took place in either June 1901 or June 1902 - with the Narrator writing his version of the events (as chronicled in the novel) 6 years after they had occurred.
i would say this too, however in the show, the earth is being converted slowly after the invasion, by the time it was modern day the earth would be nigh uninhabitable by human life
Well the book ones did not have shields, I think they only got added to the other films because the weapons of the times would more likely just rip through the tripods or at least not make them as imposing
5:07 There is such a thing as a technological advanced race of aliens and a god. I feel like that these Martians are way too overpowered here. Those tripods look way too big to fit inside of them. I think Ray Harryhousan said it best about the aliens being able to develop advanced technology in order to come down on Earth and kill us all. The designs of the aliens aren’t bad but they kinda look like discount Spielberg Versions.
Yeah very good points. I feel like this version makes little attempt to show logic with them, they're just like 'it's alien you're not supposed to get it', which is unfortunate.
Yeah, the only things I feel like that aliens that have god like or supernatural powers would be Killer Klowns from Outer Space, or super powered aliens from D.C and Marvel. In D.C and Marvel, there won’t be any kind of scientific logic towards aliens so aliens having superpowers would seem natural. And in Killer Klowns from Outer Space, it’s supposed not be serious, it’s nothing but dark humor so it won’t be nailing any kind of scientific accuracy just for the sake of it. But War of the Worlds is supposed to, given throughout previous adaptations, like the laser weapons in the 1953 version or the lightning teleportation in the 2005 version are things likely to be made by a technological advanced alien race. But the BBC, I’d say it falls into the line of Killer Klowns from Outer Space, advanced powers that make no sense is put in a story with scientific accuracy.
The shoulder/elbow joints on his Tripod design wouldn't even be able to lift & pivot its massive legs, having zero leverage. There were leaked on location storyboards of the Artillery vs 3 Tripods, that was totally missing from the finished show.
I remember seeing this B movie version of war of the worlds, from what I remember the tripods in that movie were both from mars, and even organic in nature. Its “heat ray” was more of a tractor beam meant to bring people into it. It’s one of those movies that lives in my head rent free ever since I’ve seen it, and it’s also sparked ideas for more “alive” tripods, essentially less war machine and more spacefaring organisms themselves.
Awesome covering of the BBC series. I have a few theories regarding both the aliens, the tripods, and the sphere capsules. I think you are right in that the tripods have an ability to detect their surroundings, thereby resulting in their structures taking on a similar element (like the TARDIS if its chameleon circuit was functioning). It also think that the aliens and the machines are two separate living beings, with the tripods being more like attack dogs while the smaller aliens are probably their masters; in other words, the sphere, being apparently organic, might serve two fold: one, to mark targets for destruction (which is why everyone who came into physical contact with the sphere were killed, not unlike tracking transmitters), and two, the aliens come to Earth either born from the sphere, to which the sphere's mass sheds not unlike spores, are form a spherical gestalt which they emerge from; the latter would likely mean that they might lethal to the touch when they take on their actual forms. As much as I enjoyed the BBC series for being close to the novel, but also adding its own take, I wish it had been more popular with WOTW fans, because perhaps we could see the aliens make their return, as the Earth is obviously now more suited to their environment in the future sequences.
Es wäre schön wenn H.G.Wells Roman mal eins zu eins umgesetzt werden würde,aber solche Sachen passieren höchstens nur bei Computerspiele. Traurig aber wahr das jeder der so einen Film dreht gleich seinen Senf zugeben muss. Bei so vielen Versionen sollte es doch möglich sein ein einziges mal das original komplett wiederzugeben . Es sollten mal Regisseure ausgebildet werden die in der Lage sind verschiedene Romane der damaligenden Zeit in Bild und Ton komplett zu übertragen ohne Veränderung .😊😊😊
strangely when i first saw this, i thought the sphere had no heat ray and was just launching the goo everywhere by spinning, kinda like a wet dog shaking to get rid of water. I guess my thought process was that if the first thing to catch alight was the astronomer's arm which had already came into contact with the goo, then the goo is a substance that sets things alight on contact.
What if the martians were also formed with the organic materials? seams plausible and really builds upon your idea of the tripods having trouble with using the artificial concrete in cities, maybe the tripods that come from city areas fall over?
"War of the Worlds" is a nice example of an expired copyright leading to creative works either retelling or reworking a great story. I used to watch the BBC-Fremantle TV series based on "The Tripods" books by John Christopher. The basic idea being that the invaders won the war. (The series was cancelled before completion, so I ended up reading the final book in the series to find the outcome.)
The sphere from mars could potentionally have a mirror like liquid and he could’ve blow up first because the mirror liquid could possibly ubsorb heat and that may be why he burnt first but i think your idea of the like threat thing .
It was really interesting listening to your thoughts and opinions. Lots of possibilities that are very interesting and kinda make sense. I really enjoyed listening to this I think the reason why the tripods lost so quickly was as the books suggested is because of the common cold. And then us brits being what we were back then were like “oo… oh! Lads… I think we did it… whatever we did”
May i ask where you got the model of the BBC tripod? ive been searching for ages to find one as i want to make a fun gamemode in a socialVR game i play but i havent managed to find the BBC model specifically
To me, the crystalized, regenerating, crackling limbs also seems somewhat evocative of the dry, barren place that Mars is. The vast majority of its surface can be said to have remnants of tripod limbs scattered across it. Though, the natural forces that cause that crackling on earth would necessarily be different from Mars, if indeed they cracked more, or if at all, on Mars.
BBC did do bad on the movie adaptation for the War Of the Worlds BUT. just don't yell at me or get angry at me!. the Blacksmoke that Spielberg made the 2005 version didn't shown it, for the BBC version they kinda do show it, and in H.G Wells Novel. so there's kind of 1 missing from the 2005
This series was highly critized but I thought it was well done and it has incredibly weird,creepy Martians,who we see more of.I also like that it was set in the Victorian Era that the original story was.
The ball is probably like a camera for the martians that flys out to clear the surroundings and its like a pod that flys out the tripod or there probably tentacles in another way like it probably goes in houses lasering down people in those houses and it turning to dust is its way to go back to the tripods matter
5:09 That screenshot is just before those people are about to line up for a photo. And if you noticed while watching that scene, they used a camera on a tripod. Given how the sphere behind them acted, is it possible it saw the camera and decided to base its fighting machines on that?
Kind of a mediocre series but holy crap were the Machines' design on point. Imposing, intimidating, otherworldly, the artist understood the assignment.
Hi. Good thinking here. Appreciate it. I feel the absence of visual cues to explain how a tripod emerges is so extreme, it had to be a conscious decision to leave the viewer baffled. Perhaps this is so to keep us thinking of the movie after it’s watched.
It makes no sense at all. The spheres disintegrate and somehow produce the Tripods? Did the spheres also produce the Martians themselves?? Considering that the Martians hadn't been to Earth before, how did they know their disintegrating sphere would "grow" anything? Plain dumb.
I remember really getting into WOTW in 2018, and waiting with baited breath for this BBC series. I don't mind these Tripods, I love the spider or crab like legs and main center body. The rest of this series though... its really not the best ...
OH AND THE CRYSTAL LIKE THINGS GROWING ARE SIMILAIR TO THE FILM 1899. You really should go watch it. It starts like a ordenary life then LOTS OF WEIRD THINGS HAPPEN
Despite the Tripods being more destructive, deadly, and harder to kill in the 2005 Adaptation, I'd still rather be in that invasion. The reason why is because the ending is hopeful since the likelihood that the invaders would return to an unsafe planet that they invested centuries worth of time into is unlikely. Plus, the humans could reverse engineer the alien tech and use it afterwards. The BBC Adaptation feels more hopeless. Even if the aliens decided not to return, the humans can't exactly reverse engineer technology that advanced, let alone in that time period.
A friend in Scarborough sent me a copy of this one in the United States. She hoped it would work but it was region locked. I swear someday Ill see it LOL
The Tripods billions if not trillions of nanites fusing together. At least that's what I'd assume the ball was and the gunk on the man's hand. It also would explain why it disentegrates and the tripod rises from the earth. Could be the nanites burrowing underground and then fusing together.
I gotta admit i like some of the ambiguity these tripods have, it gives them that otherworldy uncannyness that HG Wells really wanted to depict and making them work in ways that seem completely incompatible with human technology (even modern) is a good way to keep that concept imo. I think it would be interesting if they went full in with the "tripod made of natural resources" angle and also making the martians an extesion of it, instead of a crew piloting a machine they could be a mass of the same strange crystaline structure separating from the main tripod possibly implying that the martians are not an easily understandable organism but something more eldritch, a force that has to take shape on earth with earth's own resources. Maybe the red weed is the actual martian lifeforms and thats why the tripods are more concerned with impregnating the soil with it but earth's microbiome proves incompatible with them and ends up killing the martians. To draw a parallel with another BBC property, the martian force could be like the nestene conciousness from doctor who, an otherworldy disembodied intelligence that needs to inhabit very specific kinds of matter to live in the physical world. Too bad this adaptation was so underwhelming.
You know I often questioned how the Tripods arrived with the marsians in the cylinders considering the capsules dispite the dimentions of the cylinders arn't big enough to have both the marsians and the trpods even the tripods parts nessasery to build them on site. The Cylinders are ment to have 4 tripods each and their alien piolets but this isn't possible due to the size of one capsules and tripods ment to be in each. Although now that I think about it we never see the tripods ever being build but maybe they warn't built but grown. Resent depictions show the tripods as being more organic and animalistic like the pods have life of their own. This makes me think of the Scarrub from Halo of samus arans chozo suit the Tripods although are discribed as mechines are not 100% machine but a biomechanical construct centered around the marsians themselves. It would explanes why the machines malfunction so easily when the marsians get sick if the tripods were 100% machine this wouldn't be so they would still be functional reguardless of wever or not the marsians got sick or not but if the mechines got sick as well the malfunctioning would make sence. The Tripods are a biomechanic exstention of the marsians like a crab or snail in a shell. The marsians can grow and shead the tripods like tripods around them. It makes the dimentions of the cylinders and tripods make more sence when you think about it.
If these guys appeared in modern day we would probably beat the shit outta them. Unlike the 2005 version, these guys are unshielded and can get taken down by howitzers and naval guns. Imaging what Modern munitions can do. 105, 120mm guns, 155mm artillery, 127mm naval guns, bombs, missiles etc.
The BBC production felt turgid and disjointed. It was as if they'd run out of money mid-production and it showed in the improbable way the various story elements were cobbled together. There were vast swathes of information missing from the story, with a focus on trying to look at the story in a more modern way. However they missed the mark badly and seemed to forget that a story about an alien invasion based on a famous novel shouldn't be upstaged by a badly-written kitchen sink drama.
Agreed, to me it feels like they wanted to do an Edwardian romance drama and just put The War of the Worlds in the background so more people would watch it. I think you might be spot on about them running out of money, I didn't know until researching this video that apparently it was released nearly an entire year after it was originally meant to.
@@pupbenny From what I could tell from the limited behind the scenes and production coverage of this work, it seemed that the Writers and show runner wanted to do their own alien invasion/EastEnders like show, but WOTW was forced onto them by the Studio. Or they decided to use WOTW to draw in viewers to come and watch their show disguised as WOTW when in reality it isn't.
I can explain the whole thing with the floating ball: It's some BS that the writers of this series who thought they had better ideas than one of the fathers of science fiction pulled right out of their arse. :)
The BBC adaptation is okay and all, but I hate how they totally got rid of the opportunity for a kick ass thunder child scene that so many other depictions have either failed to or adapted terribly
These BBC Tripods are pretty interesting but not that accurate to the book, in fact, this isn’t accurate to the book at all. And the entire show is genuinely horrible, the first half of the whole thing is just an Edwardian romance. And the book was set in the Victorian era, not Edwardian. One thing I shall give credit to tho is the Heat Ray being invisible since thats how Wells described it. And the incineration effect by the Heat Ray are actually pretty good. I don’t know why they just killed off the Artilleryman in such a short time, and even tho there was a battle between the Martians and the Royal Navy…. there wasn’t any HMS Thunder Child. They could’ve also done the What I Saw Of The Destruction of Weybridge and Shepperton but chose not too. My general opinion on this entire show is hot garbage. And the spheres replacing the cylinder spacecraft? What’s that about? And the Martians’ tripods coming out from the ground like in Spielbergs? This is genuinely pretty weird.
It's so funny to me that the British fail every time to adapt this book effectively every single time, despite H.G. Wells was a British person. The 2005 movie might not be the most accurate to the book, but it's 1000 times better than all of the British adaptations combined.
Visually, they look great, but I really feel the creators were just condescending in order to cope with the fact that they didn't really know what they were doing. The whole adaptation was a failure, I hear.
I really do like the design of the tripods in this show and think they used the black smoke very well. I really did not like the ailen design as they where too animalistic in my opinion
I kinda like the design of the Tripods, it's like a mix of the Spielberg and the ones from the musical version (aka the best adaptation) but that's just me, they were wasted on this program
Call me crazy but I thought the first two parts were actually pretty good. It has the right tone (horror, not scifi) and is told in a similar structure to the book. Im nowhere near childish (and yes: I use that word deliberately) enough to bemoan a female protagonist and a a romantic element because they HAD to do something, due to the original book being rather a sausage fest. You can't do that these days and anyone thinking otherwise needs to grow up, frankly. It was an INTERESTING adaptation. Well, until part 3 where it kinda just falls apart, sadly.
The BBC Tripods are not one of my favourites, but there's definitely a lot to explain with them considering how unique they are. I was surprised at how complicated and in-depth their mechanisms were and that actual logic had been developed for them, apparently.
The tripods crystal falling flakes are basically biomechanical dandruff..😉
How you explained the pushing/pulling/flexing crystal elements when they take a step is very novel, and reminds me of how the Citadel in Half Life 2 sort of consumes the landscape around it in similar but more mechanical fashion.
@@darania1 Martian eczema
@SurelyYewJest Indeed but Martian head & shoulders may fix it...
I'm astounded that you found so much to talk about in such a dire example of literary adaptation.
It was a woke mess, yay go girl power
@@makeitsonumberone1358🤥
@@makeitsonumberone1358what the heck does being woke have to do with it???
@@kingboss9512 it's very sad isn't it! But when all you have is a hammer, EVERYTHING looks like a nail!
@@makeitsonumberone1358Agreed..It was all from his girlfriend Amy's perspective, while George's manhood was being removed each episode.. He is then portrayed as a wimp..
In the book, the female character is packed off to safety aboard a steamboat, and has no real part in the invasion...
They even managed to find and rescue a young black girl, reduce the Thunderchild to a cameo, and then omitted every key scary moment from the original story...Wow!
Something interesting came to mind when you were talking about the Production Team's approach to the machines. Doug Chiang, the design director for Star Wars Episode 1, spoke about having done a series of designs and having a favorite. Then George Lucas walked in and approved 2 or 3 of the designs, none of them being the favorite. Doug later asked George why and George explained that "the design have to live by themselves... the audience has to connect with it right away. They have to know its personality, they have to know its function, they have to know where the pilot sits. All those things in less than 3 seconds. And if you can do that in a design with no explanation, the design will be that much more powerful." And so taking that philosophy into account, its interesting to see how the design of the BBC "Tree" Tripods kind of fail because a lot of that function is not going to be seen by all of the audience on their first viewing. I sympathize with the BBC Production Team because I know I'm the same way creatively. I put a lot of thought into the details even though I know it's not necessarily going to be seen in the final product. But it's interesting to consider that had more time been given to highlight the details the Production Team came op with, the design might have connected with more of the audience.
All in all, I love these deep dives into the War of the Worlds and the various adaptations. Thank you for making such great content! I look forward to your next video!
Thank you, and yeah I totally agree! :) I really love your comparison with the Star Wars design philosophy. I was thinking while making this how it's incredible how little is explained about them in this version to a degree where it makes them too alien and unfeasible, arguably. I can make a 20+ minute video explaining them and still don't have all the answers, even though the design team apparently came up with actual logic for them. It's a shame the audience didn't get to see more of that and connect with them on a greater level as a result, potentially.
Probably a dumb opinion of mine but while I really do like the BBC tripods design, I am kind of disappointed they have no tentacles for capturing people
I agree
I agree
They could’ve made the tenticles look like twigs atleast
They don't have tentacles like 2005 tripod BBC tripods have laser they don't collect people bc they're tripod is quite large
@@Izelego_editor2but 2005 has lasers
These Tripods are a crystalline in their design. We see them constantly shedding crystals off their bodies through out the story. Presumably these are being replace like our skin does. When the spheres arrived they must have planted crystals in the ground that grew into their version of fighting machines from the novel
Nah - that's space dandruff.
Nano technology
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This is how I've viewed them too.
This adaption stunk!
Agreed.
Havent watched it but the Tripoda are nice
First episode was good but then it became unwatchable.
I don't think it did. It was good for the first two parts. Third part fell to pieces, though.
@@timaustin2000 It stunk, they wanted to make their own dumb changes thinking they were smarter than H.G. wells and made something lame.
the theory of which it highlights and targets anything that touches it is such a good theory. Because its similar how some plants work by when a animal or such damages the plant, it either leaves some sort of stench/indentifyer, to attract and or other bugs and whatnot
The fact he makes the tripod dance at the end is hilarious
The way it looked to me was that the sphere lands, breaks off its outer shell that protected it during reentry, then dislodges its payload, the cockpit and pilot, into the ground, it then rises up and disintegrates. During this the touch and smearing effect could be part of the defensive mechanism you theorized and to make everyone believe the sphere itself is the target so they don't investigate the landing site further. Everyone witnessing thinks it's destroyed so they leave and in the meantime, the cockpit with the pilot in the ground absorbs local minerals to make the tripod and comes out of the ground. In that regard I feel like the mechanism is better than the Spielberg design because THAT relies on Tripods being buried on Earth for thousands of years and hoping nobody ever finds them somehow.
One thing is very good on this series is the soundtrack
And the tripod design
@@HumphreyAlphaandOmega yeah
I was talking about the older BBC tripods series from 1984-1985, sorry that there was a mix-up with my suggestion but a great video none the less, keep going at it, your doing great!
Thank you and don't worry I was doing this one anyway before your comment. :)
Well that's ok, I would love to see a video of them in the future, and like all your other tripod videos, this one was an impeccable analysis of the 2019 BBC war of the worlds, I'm excited to see more!
Your on about BBC's The Tripods, yeah seen it well made for the time. Did you know the red 'war' laser carrying tripods where a show only invention along with the black guard.
i really wish they stuck to the original designs for the tripod considering h.g wells had some pretty wacky designs the water tower tripods are my favorite
Yeah, it would've been interesting to see a TV Show that actually used those designs.
H.G. Wells never laid down an exact design for the Tripods. The first designs, the 'water towers', were reviled by H.G. Wells, who even went so far as to make additions to the story when it was adapted to a novel, to the effect that 'observations and sketches by some authors, who weren't versed in the appearance of the Martian machines, looking as stiff as water towers, should be ignored.'
The Tripod design is very interesting and unique, I did not mind it as another interpretation of the Tripods for WOTW. But the Show itself really did not do them justice though, since the poor story never really focused on the Martian invasion and they're are very rarely on screen doing much. So many great scenes with them where cut from the book in the show, like their battle with the Army using heavy artillery near the river town, and then we got a half baked Thunderchild/navy scene. The Martians themselves where let downs as well, just terrible honestly. Got to this design credit for the Tripods being the only ones with book accurate invisible heat rays that only be seen by the fizzle effect they do to the very air and burn the ground as it is fired.
tree pods
personal theory is that thatthe Red Weed itself is the Martians , they never left , they're still there , a hive mind fungi that uses other living beings or the "machines" to spread itself and become bigger , a race that has evovled beyond ego so much that they're only that , the red weed and the crystals, though i cannot be sure of how much ground this holds
The Tripedal creatures in the series don't convey to me the feeling of "walking brains" that the original Martians from the book did. How would those creatures evolve and build tools if they have no limbs for grasping and fine manipulation? They show basic intelligence but don't seem like mental giants capable of understanding complex math and physics on the quantum level.
I feel like those creatures were Bioengineered with the function of searching for humans in locations that the fighting machines could not. Perhaps they arrived in a separate transportation system in suspended animation.
I believe the tripedal creatures sent to earth are to the martians as dogs are to humans. our species employs dogs for hunting and herding livestock in farms, the real martians could have envisioned a similar concept once they were sure the earth was subdued and safe for their migration. These creatures could be used to track down humans, kill some to feed themselves and herd the rest to the farms where the martians would harvest blood and breed humans the same way we do to farm animals (each generation would be easier than the previous to control as there would probably be no form of education for humans, perhaps even communication would eventually return to the way primitive humans used to do)
That's a very interesting thought experiment and very credible
Maybe the aliens teleport from Mars and into the tripods, like the Steven Spielberg adaptation.
More likely the Writers did not really about it.
Amazing work like always!
Thank you! :)
Indeed! It really was a "What the Hell" Series!! I think this is the most bizarre, surreal and coherent reinterpretation of the original novel! Intriguing comparison, technological details and final conclusions! The only thing I disliked about this series was that the Tripods lacked the iconic tentacles, their anticlimatic development (Remainds me to that Goliath Film too) and the design of the supposed Martians! But I like the idea of more advanced organic tripods at molecular levels! Have you ever heard of the Scarlet Traces Comic?
The heat ray effects were good, and right up until the 'cylinder opened' it was going quite well, after that it just fell apart very quickly, which was a shame because it at least had the setting and the era right unlike 95% of the adaptations.
"these ones come from giant balls" im sorry lol
For all of the people who know what vita carnis is, for some reason the sphere kinda reminds me of the singularity.
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I read the descriptions of The War Of The Worlds and it says that this takes place in 1905 and chronologiclly a 100 years later it is 2005, the same year when the Steven Spielberg War Of The Worlds took place (Allegdly) so the 2019 War Of The Worlds might actually be a recconaisne and the Spielberg War Of The Worlds might be the actual invasion of the Martians.
Actually, the Invasion took place in either June 1901 or June 1902 - with the Narrator writing his version of the events (as chronicled in the novel) 6 years after they had occurred.
i would say this too, however in the show, the earth is being converted slowly after the invasion, by the time it was modern day the earth would be nigh uninhabitable by human life
i like the bbc tripod because they included the black smoke, but they don't have shields or tentacles
Well the book ones did not have shields, I think they only got added to the other films because the weapons of the times would more likely just rip through the tripods or at least not make them as imposing
I like the BCC tripods and the 2005 Tom Cruise Tripod as well
Lol imagine at the end of the series theres just some random tripods dancing to the end music😂
5:07 There is such a thing as a technological advanced race of aliens and a god. I feel like that these Martians are way too overpowered here. Those tripods look way too big to fit inside of them. I think Ray Harryhousan said it best about the aliens being able to develop advanced technology in order to come down on Earth and kill us all. The designs of the aliens aren’t bad but they kinda look like discount Spielberg Versions.
Yeah very good points. I feel like this version makes little attempt to show logic with them, they're just like 'it's alien you're not supposed to get it', which is unfortunate.
Yeah, the only things I feel like that aliens that have god like or supernatural powers would be Killer Klowns from Outer Space, or super powered aliens from D.C and Marvel. In D.C and Marvel, there won’t be any kind of scientific logic towards aliens so aliens having superpowers would seem natural. And in Killer Klowns from Outer Space, it’s supposed not be serious, it’s nothing but dark humor so it won’t be nailing any kind of scientific accuracy just for the sake of it. But War of the Worlds is supposed to, given throughout previous adaptations, like the laser weapons in the 1953 version or the lightning teleportation in the 2005 version are things likely to be made by a technological advanced alien race. But the BBC, I’d say it falls into the line of Killer Klowns from Outer Space, advanced powers that make no sense is put in a story with scientific accuracy.
The shoulder/elbow joints on his Tripod design wouldn't even be able to lift & pivot its massive legs, having zero leverage. There were leaked on location storyboards of the Artillery vs 3 Tripods, that was totally missing from the finished show.
I remember seeing this B movie version of war of the worlds, from what I remember the tripods in that movie were both from mars, and even organic in nature. Its “heat ray” was more of a tractor beam meant to bring people into it. It’s one of those movies that lives in my head rent free ever since I’ve seen it, and it’s also sparked ideas for more “alive” tripods, essentially less war machine and more spacefaring organisms themselves.
How in the world did we go from the tripods back in 2005 looking good to 2019 having…….this
Bbc woke garbage
@@makeitsonumberone1358 compaired to what I’ve seen the 2019 tripods really don’t look woke trust me in American I would know
@@Godzillafan78 the show was woke
@@makeitsonumberone1358 I’ve seen the show before and it’s honestly the least woke thing I’ve ever seen and I live in the US
@@Godzillafan78Did you even see the video?
The BBC version of War of the Worlds was a great example of how you can make special effects in MS Paint.
Awesome covering of the BBC series. I have a few theories regarding both the aliens, the tripods, and the sphere capsules. I think you are right in that the tripods have an ability to detect their surroundings, thereby resulting in their structures taking on a similar element (like the TARDIS if its chameleon circuit was functioning). It also think that the aliens and the machines are two separate living beings, with the tripods being more like attack dogs while the smaller aliens are probably their masters; in other words, the sphere, being apparently organic, might serve two fold: one, to mark targets for destruction (which is why everyone who came into physical contact with the sphere were killed, not unlike tracking transmitters), and two, the aliens come to Earth either born from the sphere, to which the sphere's mass sheds not unlike spores, are form a spherical gestalt which they emerge from; the latter would likely mean that they might lethal to the touch when they take on their actual forms. As much as I enjoyed the BBC series for being close to the novel, but also adding its own take, I wish it had been more popular with WOTW fans, because perhaps we could see the aliens make their return, as the Earth is obviously now more suited to their environment in the future sequences.
Imagine going to mars and seeing a big ass tripod walking your way
I’m just confused why you touch the tripod in the ink is not there anymore it’s just painted black
Es wäre schön wenn H.G.Wells Roman mal eins zu eins umgesetzt werden würde,aber solche Sachen passieren höchstens nur bei Computerspiele.
Traurig aber wahr das jeder der so einen Film dreht gleich seinen Senf zugeben muss.
Bei so vielen Versionen sollte es doch möglich sein ein einziges mal das original komplett wiederzugeben .
Es sollten mal Regisseure ausgebildet werden die in der Lage sind verschiedene Romane der damaligenden Zeit in Bild und Ton komplett zu übertragen ohne Veränderung .😊😊😊
the ash from the sphere is probably intended to meld itself into the tripod itself like a shapeshifter
strangely when i first saw this, i thought the sphere had no heat ray and was just launching the goo everywhere by spinning, kinda like a wet dog shaking to get rid of water. I guess my thought process was that if the first thing to catch alight was the astronomer's arm which had already came into contact with the goo, then the goo is a substance that sets things alight on contact.
I always though that the sphere let the martians underground before floating. Also, imagine if the lights were green
Will you do the great martian war martian spiders
What if the martians were also formed with the organic materials? seams plausible and really builds upon your idea of the tripods having trouble with using the artificial concrete in cities, maybe the tripods that come from city areas fall over?
Could you do a video about the Great martian war tripods?
"War of the Worlds" is a nice example of an expired copyright leading to creative works either retelling or reworking a great story. I used to watch the BBC-Fremantle TV series based on "The Tripods" books by John Christopher. The basic idea being that the invaders won the war. (The series was cancelled before completion, so I ended up reading the final book in the series to find the outcome.)
Yes but that series was back in 84 and was realy good, this was a load of woke garbage
The sphere from mars could potentionally have a mirror like liquid and he could’ve blow up first because the mirror liquid could possibly ubsorb heat and that may be why he burnt first but i think your idea of the like threat thing .
Ah yes, my least favorite Tripod.
I watch all your edits and you bully the 2019 tripod and its funny because its true its weak as hell
It was really interesting listening to your thoughts and opinions. Lots of possibilities that are very interesting and kinda make sense. I really enjoyed listening to this
I think the reason why the tripods lost so quickly was as the books suggested is because of the common cold. And then us brits being what we were back then were like “oo… oh! Lads… I think we did it… whatever we did”
May i ask where you got the model of the BBC tripod? ive been searching for ages to find one as i want to make a fun gamemode in a socialVR game i play but i havent managed to find the BBC model specifically
To me, the crystalized, regenerating, crackling limbs also seems somewhat evocative of the dry, barren place that Mars is. The vast majority of its surface can be said to have remnants of tripod limbs scattered across it. Though, the natural forces that cause that crackling on earth would necessarily be different from Mars, if indeed they cracked more, or if at all, on Mars.
BBC did do bad on the movie adaptation for the War Of the Worlds BUT. just don't yell at me or get angry at me!. the Blacksmoke that Spielberg made the 2005 version didn't shown it, for the BBC version they kinda do show it, and in H.G Wells Novel. so there's kind of 1 missing from the 2005
This series was highly critized but I thought it was well done and it has incredibly weird,creepy Martians,who we see more of.I also like that it was set in the Victorian Era that the original story was.
The ball is probably like a camera for the martians that flys out to clear the surroundings and its like a pod that flys out the tripod or there probably tentacles in another way like it probably goes in houses lasering down people in those houses and it turning to dust is its way to go back to the tripods matter
21:20 the tripod dance got me😂
5:09 That screenshot is just before those people are about to line up for a photo. And if you noticed while watching that scene, they used a camera on a tripod. Given how the sphere behind them acted, is it possible it saw the camera and decided to base its fighting machines on that?
Pupbenny:*showing the tripod at 11:23*
Me:GOOFY AHH NO ARMS TRIPOD
Kind of a mediocre series but holy crap were the Machines' design on point. Imposing, intimidating, otherworldly, the artist understood the assignment.
I hope the Jeff Wayne tripod is next
Hi. Good thinking here. Appreciate it. I feel the absence of visual cues to explain how a tripod emerges is so extreme, it had to be a conscious decision to leave the viewer baffled. Perhaps this is so to keep us thinking of the movie after it’s watched.
It was a great adaptation
The BBC Tripods look fairly nice, despite them not being accurate to the book.
I want to watch this series but don't know where i can, people say it's pretty bad, is really that so?
It makes no sense at all. The spheres disintegrate and somehow produce the Tripods? Did the spheres also produce the Martians themselves?? Considering that the Martians hadn't been to Earth before, how did they know their disintegrating sphere would "grow" anything? Plain dumb.
So does this mean the Jeff Wayne tripods are next?
The bbc tripods remind me of my puppy
Your puppy shoots invisible lasers?
(Its a joke)
I remember really getting into WOTW in 2018, and waiting with baited breath for this BBC series. I don't mind these Tripods, I love the spider or crab like legs and main center body. The rest of this series though... its really not the best ...
OH AND THE CRYSTAL LIKE THINGS GROWING ARE SIMILAIR TO THE FILM 1899. You really should go watch it. It starts like a ordenary life then LOTS OF WEIRD THINGS HAPPEN
SPACE MALTESERS AHHH
Do the other BBC tripods
Despite the Tripods being more destructive, deadly, and harder to kill in the 2005 Adaptation, I'd still rather be in that invasion. The reason why is because the ending is hopeful since the likelihood that the invaders would return to an unsafe planet that they invested centuries worth of time into is unlikely. Plus, the humans could reverse engineer the alien tech and use it afterwards.
The BBC Adaptation feels more hopeless. Even if the aliens decided not to return, the humans can't exactly reverse engineer technology that advanced, let alone in that time period.
A friend in Scarborough sent me a copy of this one in the United States. She hoped it would work but it was region locked. I swear someday Ill see it LOL
Dont bother its woke bbc shite
the sphere surface material may be related to the 'black oil' of The X-Files....
can you do a video on the Martians itself
The Tripods billions if not trillions of nanites fusing together. At least that's what I'd assume the ball was and the gunk on the man's hand. It also would explain why it disentegrates and the tripod rises from the earth. Could be the nanites burrowing underground and then fusing together.
What is your opinion if you have seen it about the old 1970s BBC TV programme called The Tripods?
I gotta admit i like some of the ambiguity these tripods have, it gives them that otherworldy uncannyness that HG Wells really wanted to depict and making them work in ways that seem completely incompatible with human technology (even modern) is a good way to keep that concept imo. I think it would be interesting if they went full in with the "tripod made of natural resources" angle and also making the martians an extesion of it, instead of a crew piloting a machine they could be a mass of the same strange crystaline structure separating from the main tripod possibly implying that the martians are not an easily understandable organism but something more eldritch, a force that has to take shape on earth with earth's own resources. Maybe the red weed is the actual martian lifeforms and thats why the tripods are more concerned with impregnating the soil with it but earth's microbiome proves incompatible with them and ends up killing the martians. To draw a parallel with another BBC property, the martian force could be like the nestene conciousness from doctor who, an otherworldy disembodied intelligence that needs to inhabit very specific kinds of matter to live in the physical world. Too bad this adaptation was so underwhelming.
Wait what. As a kid we remember
It just ended 😭
You know I often questioned how the Tripods arrived with the marsians in the cylinders considering the capsules dispite the dimentions of the cylinders arn't big enough to have both the marsians and the trpods even the tripods parts nessasery to build them on site.
The Cylinders are ment to have 4 tripods each and their alien piolets but this isn't possible due to the size of one capsules and tripods ment to be in each.
Although now that I think about it we never see the tripods ever being build but maybe they warn't built but grown.
Resent depictions show the tripods as being more organic and animalistic like the pods have life of their own.
This makes me think of the Scarrub from Halo of samus arans chozo suit the Tripods although are discribed as mechines are not 100% machine but a biomechanical construct centered around the marsians themselves.
It would explanes why the machines malfunction so easily when the marsians get sick if the tripods were 100% machine this wouldn't be so they would still be functional reguardless of wever or not the marsians got sick or not but if the mechines got sick as well the malfunctioning would make sence.
The Tripods are a biomechanic exstention of the marsians like a crab or snail in a shell.
The marsians can grow and shead the tripods like tripods around them.
It makes the dimentions of the cylinders and tripods make more sence when you think about it.
It's like something out of Half-Life.
If these guys appeared in modern day we would probably beat the shit outta them. Unlike the 2005 version, these guys are unshielded and can get taken down by howitzers and naval guns. Imaging what Modern munitions can do. 105, 120mm guns, 155mm artillery, 127mm naval guns, bombs, missiles etc.
The BBC production felt turgid and disjointed. It was as if they'd run out of money mid-production and it showed in the improbable way the various story elements were cobbled together. There were vast swathes of information missing from the story, with a focus on trying to look at the story in a more modern way. However they missed the mark badly and seemed to forget that a story about an alien invasion based on a famous novel shouldn't be upstaged by a badly-written kitchen sink drama.
Agreed, to me it feels like they wanted to do an Edwardian romance drama and just put The War of the Worlds in the background so more people would watch it. I think you might be spot on about them running out of money, I didn't know until researching this video that apparently it was released nearly an entire year after it was originally meant to.
@@pupbenny From what I could tell from the limited behind the scenes and production coverage of this work, it seemed that the Writers and show runner wanted to do their own alien invasion/EastEnders like show, but WOTW was forced onto them by the Studio. Or they decided to use WOTW to draw in viewers to come and watch their show disguised as WOTW when in reality it isn't.
This adaptation had such potential. However they ruined it with the final episode. Not to mention, it was so hard to find the episodes in America
I wish the martians where tenticals rather than tripods themselves
I honestly still can`t think of any good theories xddd
and I also cant get over the fact Oglivy is the same dude from 28 weeks later lmao
How do we know that the creatures we see are the actual creators of the tripods?
I can explain the whole thing with the floating ball: It's some BS that the writers of this series who thought they had better ideas than one of the fathers of science fiction pulled right out of their arse. :)
Treepods
I guess it is creepy the way the tripods howl when they're hit
Check out 1934 war of the worlds
The BBC interpretation just comes of as "what if someone who doesnt quite grasp 'the war of the worlds' made a war of the worlds series" 🤔
The BBC adaptation is okay and all, but I hate how they totally got rid of the opportunity for a kick ass thunder child scene that so many other depictions have either failed to or adapted terribly
These BBC Tripods are pretty interesting but not that accurate to the book, in fact, this isn’t accurate to the book at all. And the entire show is genuinely horrible, the first half of the whole thing is just an Edwardian romance. And the book was set in the Victorian era, not Edwardian. One thing I shall give credit to tho is the Heat Ray being invisible since thats how Wells described it. And the incineration effect by the Heat Ray are actually pretty good. I don’t know why they just killed off the Artilleryman in such a short time, and even tho there was a battle between the Martians and the Royal Navy…. there wasn’t any HMS Thunder Child. They could’ve also done the What I Saw Of The Destruction of Weybridge and Shepperton but chose not too. My general opinion on this entire show is hot garbage. And the spheres replacing the cylinder spacecraft? What’s that about? And the Martians’ tripods coming out from the ground like in Spielbergs? This is genuinely pretty weird.
It's so funny to me that the British fail every time to adapt this book effectively every single time, despite H.G. Wells was a British person. The 2005 movie might not be the most accurate to the book, but it's 1000 times better than all of the British adaptations combined.
4:50 maybe the black metrial is biomass and its just an egg
Visually, they look great, but I really feel the creators were just condescending in order to cope with the fact that they didn't really know what they were doing. The whole adaptation was a failure, I hear.
It was just a shame this version was utterly ruined since it was written by the usual BBC writers. It could have been SO much better :/
I really do like the design of the tripods in this show and think they used the black smoke very well. I really did not like the ailen design as they where too animalistic in my opinion
After 2005 film it’s difficult to better in my opinion
I kinda like the design of the Tripods, it's like a mix of the Spielberg and the ones from the musical version (aka the best adaptation) but that's just me, they were wasted on this program
3:21 I say it was the fish
Call me crazy but I thought the first two parts were actually pretty good. It has the right tone (horror, not scifi) and is told in a similar structure to the book. Im nowhere near childish (and yes: I use that word deliberately) enough to bemoan a female protagonist and a a romantic element because they HAD to do something, due to the original book being rather a sausage fest. You can't do that these days and anyone thinking otherwise needs to grow up, frankly.
It was an INTERESTING adaptation.
Well, until part 3 where it kinda just falls apart, sadly.
There basicaly Striders from hl2 but with armor
They look similar to the striders from half life 2