One thing that is definitely not working (or going to work) is pretending everyone is the same. If we want to find common ground, we first need to at least be in the same realm, and the only realm where we can all come together is the harsh realm of reality, so that's where everyone needs to go.
Everyone being different has noting to do with race. Grab any pair of humans and whether they are same race or not will have no significant effect on how many differences they have.
I grew up lower middle class. I scored in the top three percent on my GRE. I did better than many Harvard graduates. I was accepted by a top small university. Even with government loans I could not afford the tuition.
I got the 95th and 91st percentile in sats. No scholarship since I’m white. Many of my black classmates got free rides while I had to go outside academia and build my own business. These conversations rarely discuss the people who earned a life that was stolen and given to undeserving black people. It’s blunt to word it like that but it’s still true. I should add that I grew up on welfare with a single alcoholic mother. Several blacks I knew who wound up at elite universities had money & 2 parent homes.
@@ransakreject5221 Also got no help putting myself through school until I started earning academic scholarships as a sophomore and further along. Yet, there were black classmates who were handed a free ride for....what? I'm a first-generation American, so I didn't understand why they should get any special treatment, especially since so many of them tended to drop out of school, too.
@@madducky9 the last couple times I had to fill out race I just started to say mixed. Cause in 15/16th Irish and 1/16th French. We all have things we’re ashamed of.
@@ransakreject5221I have an alchy mom, too. Absolute chaos at home. I was a mother to my mother. Sorry for your experience but I hope you found happiness and success in spite of it
Why is it that most of these groups are based on where they are from (ie: Asian, African American, Latino) and Whites/Caucasians are based on the color of our skin? (I suppose Caucasian is based on the Caucus mountains, but 99.9% of "white" people are not from the Caucus Mountains and most of these lists never mention those mountains)
The Left would never had the balls to use the essentializing terms they use for us. If we're Caucasians, then the two other groups are Mongoloids and Negroids. Haha, those 2 terms would NEVER be used, even if it would be logical to use them if you're going with Caucasians.
It's not culture or any of the other factors that can be fixed. We've bent over backwards and twisted into a pretzel pursuing every possible avenue without success. There is only one possibility left, and every bit of evidence points directly to it.
I've heard pushback against the term 'racism', not because racism isn't morally wrong, but because over the last 30+ years it has developed the connotation of white discrimination against non-white people. It's a word the media has used as a cudgel for a long time, so "anti white" is preferred for that reason.
@@brianmeen2158I don’t, the more it’s used as a cudgel the less anyone takes it seriously. It’s going to be the end of racism. This is actually how it’s beaten.
Big mistake to pretend that people have a reasonably good understanding of what racism is. The definitions have changed so much that there are things that older generations would consider obviously racist and younger people wouldn't, and vice versa. You have do define it.
It is not Asian-Americans who are most discriminated against if you understand the effects of the Hart-Cellar act. It is in the hyphenation. Considering we are discussing their homeland and not Asia, then it is European Americans that most get shafted
Peter expressing genuine enjoyment and enthusiasm for the channel "top notch idiots" is as shocking as it is disappointing and has caused my opinion of him to decline significantly.
I think they might come under 'Caucasian' in terms of race. 🤷. Asian is not a race and has at least 2 races and more ethnicities indigenous to the massive continent.
@@YesBruv105 Yeah, I prefer to talk about South Asians (India, Pakistan, etc.) and East Asians (China, Vietnam, Japan, etc.), doesn't make sense to lump them together when talking about race. But I wouldn't know how to tell if someone is Pakistani vs. Indian and I'm unaware of either of them passing as white often.
Let's not forget Russia is also part of Asia, so Russians are Asians as well. This is why Oriental isn't necessarily a racial slur. It refers to the Orient or Far East. So, Oriental is more akin to Caucasian which is referring to people of a specific geographic location. Using Asian to describe people from southeast Asia ignores large swaths of Asia.
Peter: "so...I'm going to ask you questions as if I am a true believer in critical social justice, is that OK?" Jeremy: "that's fine by me" Peter: " so what do you mean by anti white racism?" jeremy: "sure, what I mean by that is racis.. Peter: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEÈEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE .....
The real question that will get to the bottom of your culture vs. color dilemma is this: Who would you rather bring into your country: _a black Brit_ or _a white Somali?_
say Peter.. if Portland State has 100 grads a year that got into med school........... how many blocks are in that 100??? my guess is, really qualified med students............... the number would be a few for every 300 or 400 med students. Tell me I am wrong !! No !!!!!
Please stop referring to White Americans as "Caucasians," that is a term which was misapplied when it was coined in 1785 and has rightfully fallen out of regular usage because it was inappropriately applied to people to whom it never applied. Only ethnicities in and adjacent to the Caucasus Mountains are actual Caucasians, no one else. Please start using the real term, European-Americans, or White Americans. Stop misidentifying people with a term which is, in today's study of genetics, applicable to a very specific group of people in western Asia - not Europe.
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I truly love these frank discussions & the way Peter is willing to risk steelmanning oppositional arguments.
One thing that is definitely not working (or going to work) is pretending everyone is the same. If we want to find common ground, we first need to at least be in the same realm, and the only realm where we can all come together is the harsh realm of reality, so that's where everyone needs to go.
Everyone being different has noting to do with race. Grab any pair of humans and whether they are same race or not will have no significant effect on how many differences they have.
@@captainradio5894 Two individual people, maybe not, but there are significant differences between groups.
@gabeo9474 yeah but are greater differences intragroup as opposed to intergroup
@@nicholaslaport3354Intragroup will be individual differences. Intergroup will be group differences. These are not directly comparable.
You are comparing individuals to groups. This doesn't work.
As a white person I am sick and tired of being labeled punctual, ambitious, pro free speech and just downright intrepid!
Why state you are white? Any race would be pissed off having those attributes taken from them if they thought they were good attributes.
🤣🤣🤣. I know right? Such shameful epithets lol.
@@bushwacka5187 Lol now you've labeled me shameful, but I'm okay with that ;)
I grew up lower middle class. I scored in the top three percent on my GRE. I did better than many Harvard graduates. I was accepted by a top small university. Even with government loans I could not afford the tuition.
I got the 95th and 91st percentile in sats.
No scholarship since I’m white. Many of my black classmates got free rides while I had to go outside academia and build my own business.
These conversations rarely discuss the people who earned a life that was stolen and given to undeserving black people.
It’s blunt to word it like that but it’s still true. I should add that I grew up on welfare with a single alcoholic mother. Several blacks I knew who wound up at elite universities had money & 2 parent homes.
@@ransakreject5221 Also got no help putting myself through school until I started earning academic scholarships as a sophomore and further along. Yet, there were black classmates who were handed a free ride for....what? I'm a first-generation American, so I didn't understand why they should get any special treatment, especially since so many of them tended to drop out of school, too.
Play the game. Mark Native American on the application.
@@madducky9 the last couple times I had to fill out race I just started to say mixed. Cause in 15/16th Irish and 1/16th French.
We all have things we’re ashamed of.
@@ransakreject5221I have an alchy mom, too. Absolute chaos at home. I was a mother to my mother. Sorry for your experience but I hope you found happiness and success in spite of it
Why is it that most of these groups are based on where they are from (ie: Asian, African American, Latino) and Whites/Caucasians are based on the color of our skin? (I suppose Caucasian is based on the Caucus mountains, but 99.9% of "white" people are not from the Caucus Mountains and most of these lists never mention those mountains)
The Left would never had the balls to use the essentializing terms they use for us. If we're Caucasians, then the two other groups are Mongoloids and Negroids. Haha, those 2 terms would NEVER be used, even if it would be logical to use them if you're going with Caucasians.
I know that black people refer to white people as Neanderthal… I was shocked when I read that some Africans had Neanderthal in their DNA.
when I walk out to my car at night......... I am overjoyed that the guys behind me are bible study guys.
I’m not sure how many atheists would answer that question honestly
Isn't it strange how definitions change at the most opportunistic moments?🤔
Oh this is gonna be great.
It's not culture or any of the other factors that can be fixed. We've bent over backwards and twisted into a pretzel pursuing every possible avenue without success. There is only one possibility left, and every bit of evidence points directly to it.
Are you suggesting "The Bell Curve"?
Raaaacist comment! DeyBsmartNsheeyut.
@@benchapple1583 That's certainly a factor.
I tick like to boost the Al go with them. Not necessarily that I like the conversation - but it's valuable to have real conversations out there.
I've heard pushback against the term 'racism', not because racism isn't morally wrong, but because over the last 30+ years it has developed the connotation of white discrimination against non-white people. It's a word the media has used as a cudgel for a long time, so "anti white" is preferred for that reason.
I find the entire discussion around racism to be so tired at this point ..
@@brianmeen2158I don’t, the more it’s used as a cudgel the less anyone takes it seriously. It’s going to be the end of racism. This is actually how it’s beaten.
America has many fine people..........who deserve better. And we dont even bust skulls, either.
Big mistake to pretend that people have a reasonably good understanding of what racism is.
The definitions have changed so much that there are things that older generations would consider obviously racist and younger people wouldn't, and vice versa.
You have do define it.
The words "racist" & "racism" have lost nearly all meaning
Ready for my brain to exercise …. Always worth listening 🕊
An excellent interview.
It is not Asian-Americans who are most discriminated against if you understand the effects of the Hart-Cellar act. It is in the hyphenation. Considering we are discussing their homeland and not Asia, then it is European Americans that most get shafted
When you declare that some lives matter more than others, this is the logical conclusion.
Peter expressing genuine enjoyment and enthusiasm for the channel "top notch idiots" is as shocking as it is disappointing and has caused my opinion of him to decline significantly.
I think you completely misinterpreted that segment.
@@madducky9 I don't think I did.
@@Muonium1 Well you got the first 3 words right at least.
@@madducky9 wow, how astonishingly clever and witty.
Wait, why would you consider Pakistani-Americans to be white?
I think they might come under 'Caucasian' in terms of race. 🤷. Asian is not a race and has at least 2 races and more ethnicities indigenous to the massive continent.
@@YesBruv105 Yeah, I prefer to talk about South Asians (India, Pakistan, etc.) and East Asians (China, Vietnam, Japan, etc.), doesn't make sense to lump them together when talking about race. But I wouldn't know how to tell if someone is Pakistani vs. Indian and I'm unaware of either of them passing as white often.
@Lumbergh42 There should probably be a separate MENA category too.
Let's not forget Russia is also part of Asia, so Russians are Asians as well. This is why Oriental isn't necessarily a racial slur. It refers to the Orient or Far East. So, Oriental is more akin to Caucasian which is referring to people of a specific geographic location. Using Asian to describe people from southeast Asia ignores large swaths of Asia.
I don't really know why they got rid of Oriental as a term. It never was derrogatory.
how's MN going, Jeremy ??? not good. bad.
Peter: "so...I'm going to ask you questions as if I am a true believer in critical social justice, is that OK?"
Jeremy: "that's fine by me"
Peter: " so what do you mean by anti white racism?"
jeremy: "sure, what I mean by that is racis..
Peter: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEÈEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE .....
My boy is a Calvinist! Love it. Funny, though, how we always have to slip in a little apology for being so. LOL
Hey, PB & J
At $50 I don't think I can afford his book.
I'd buy it second hand on ebay or something
I just looked it up, it's 20 bucks on Amazon
The real question that will get to the bottom of your culture vs. color dilemma is this:
Who would you rather bring into your country: _a black Brit_ or _a white Somali?_
A white Somali. I think if one was able to be found America should have the only one in existence.
Too simplistic, since it would depend on each one's character. Also, British accents tend to sound more intelligent but can mask badness.
@@DefundTheFringes The point is to compare each generally on a broad scale, not specific individual examples.
@@DefundTheFringesyou don’t get more context. That’s the point.
@@payleryder45 you chose the Somali and then changed hypothetical so they were already American. Lol. Just admit you’d take the Brit.
say Peter.. if Portland State has 100 grads a year that got into med school........... how many blocks are in that 100??? my guess is, really qualified med students............... the number would be a few for every 300 or 400 med students. Tell me I am wrong !! No !!!!!
Sounds about right. What is your point?
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Please stop referring to White Americans as "Caucasians," that is a term which was misapplied when it was coined in 1785 and has rightfully fallen out of regular usage because it was inappropriately applied to people to whom it never applied.
Only ethnicities in and adjacent to the Caucasus Mountains are actual Caucasians, no one else. Please start using the real term, European-Americans, or White Americans. Stop misidentifying people with a term which is, in today's study of genetics, applicable to a very specific group of people in western Asia - not Europe.
Invite Nick Fuentes next, Peter.
No
No thank you. He was cute and interesting once before he started being a straight up larper for mid century German man.