Badminton Tactics: Basic Strategies for Doubles and Mixeddoubles - with Gronya Somerville

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  • Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
  • Here you can find the video about advanced tactics we mention in the video, definitely check this one out as well: • Double Tactics: Advanc...
    For a beginner, tactics in doubles and mixeddoubles can be a little overwhelming. Where to stand and how to move on court, where to attack and what to do during the serve? The bad news: There is no easy answer to these questions and a lot depends on your level, skills and especially the situation you are in. The good news: there are certain guidlines and rules of thumb that should help you to be a lot more successful right from the beginning and to get a better idea of how to play doubles and mixed doubles. In the video I am going to cover them and I am super happy that Australia's top shuttler Gronya Somerville is joining me!
    --Overview-----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Here a short overview about the different sections and topics in the video:
    0:00 Introduction
    0:53 Basic Positioning
    2:00 Fight for the Lift
    3:53 Where to Attack
    5:11 Defensive Position
    6:10 Block and follow up
    7:10 Moving in Defense
    8:03 Outro
    --Additional Info---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Please keep in mind, that the players in the video are world class athletes, and some of the shots and tactics they use may differ in some cases from the basic advice. Elite players have a great awareness of the situation they are in and have a good understanding of their partners actions. That's why they sometimes can play shots that may go against the basic guidleines or position a little different but still score points. Anticipation and intuition about what will happen next helps them to do so and breaking out of certain patterns can be essential to win on that level.
    --More Videos---------------------------------------------------------------------
    On my channel you will also find many more videos and more tutorials about double tactics will follow soon. So far you can already find one about single tactics here:
    7 tactical advice for single players: • 7 Tactical Advice for ...
    --Footwork Tutorials------------------------------------------------------
    Explosive Start and Split Step: • Explosive Start and Sp...
    Advanced Footwork: • Footwork like Lee Chon...
    China Jump: • China Jump: Important ...
    Scissor Jump: • The Scissor Jump: Foot...
    Lunges: • The 6 keys for a perfe...
    Landing und Recovery: • Landing and Recovery: ...
    Footwork Styles: • Footwork Styles: How t...
    --Technical Tutorials--------------------------------------------------------------
    Grip Tutorial: • Badminton Grip Tutoria...
    Smash and Clear: • Smash and Clear Tutori...
    Double Defence: • Badminton Double Defen...
    Spinshots at the net: • Badminton Spinshots: H...
    Backhandclear: • Backhandclear tutorial...
    Neutralizationshots: • Neutralization shots: ...
    Sliced Dropshots: • Sliced Dropshots: Send...
    Deceptive Dropshot like Tai Tzu Ying: • Deceptive Dropshot: Tr...
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    --Shout Out -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Special Thanks again to WoodyFilms for the amazing editing of this video! Check out his channel for more great stuff: / @woodyfilmsfilmproduktion
    Another big shout out to the BWF for allowing us to use there amazing in game footage from the broadcasting!
    You can find the links to the full matches here:
    R64 | XD | DREMIN/DIMOVA (RUS) vs. LEUNG/SOMERVILLE (AUS) | BWF 2019 • R64 | XD | DREMIN/DIMO...
    R32 | WD | MAPASA/SOMERVILLE (AUS) vs. MATSUTOMO/TAKAHASHI (JPN) [3] | BWF 2019 • R32 | WD | MAPASA/SOME...
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Комментарии • 142

  • @St4ge
    @St4ge 3 года назад +251

    My PE teachers sent us here and made us watch this for our Badminton unit lol.

  • @1Flyingfist
    @1Flyingfist 3 года назад +9

    Thanks, everyone that I play with needs to watch this kind of video. But they can't be bothered! 😳
    Gronya's video was very good. I hadn't considered some of those things, like not attacking the tramlines straight away. 🤔

  • @TheVortexRing
    @TheVortexRing 2 года назад +5

    Great tips, equally helpful for beginners as well as well as established partners. One of the best created coach videos here. Thanks so much!

  • @miguelv2985
    @miguelv2985 3 года назад +7

    Great tips Toby and Gronya!

  • @ronaldridge652
    @ronaldridge652 3 года назад +5

    One of the best tactical videos I've ever seen. Well done and keep posting... Will Def share this to my students as a reminder

  • @muhammadizanie342
    @muhammadizanie342 3 года назад +1

    I read Tobias Wakanda at first. Thank you for the strategy explanation. Realy good!!!

  • @simplexj4298
    @simplexj4298 2 года назад +1

    Great one - and a good foundation to the advanced tactics shown at Gronya's channel!

  • @HackerEnthusiastic77
    @HackerEnthusiastic77 2 года назад

    For the beginners playing batminton in court is best video thank U

  • @bindiyaverma7469
    @bindiyaverma7469 3 года назад +10

    Sir please make a video on deceptions...
    How to execute them and when actually we should use them in the game...

  • @subramanyasaravanan6831
    @subramanyasaravanan6831 2 года назад

    Very useful to me. Thank-you very much.

  • @user-st3qh1ho3b
    @user-st3qh1ho3b 3 года назад +3

    This is what I am waiting for!!

  • @ssaihtc8922
    @ssaihtc8922 2 года назад

    Thanks 👍 for explaining and it's very helpful 🤠

  • @assassin9807
    @assassin9807 3 года назад +1

    please more tacticals for single because i like your style its very simple and im improved veryyyyyyyy much And i am waiting

  • @pulkit113
    @pulkit113 3 года назад +3

    Woah this was amazing

  • @hinajunaid1989
    @hinajunaid1989 2 года назад

    Helps a lot thanks!

  • @usefullforhumans5985
    @usefullforhumans5985 3 года назад +1

    Coach! I have doubt that how do you make your players regular exercises in a weekend

  • @Kylie-zm6vw
    @Kylie-zm6vw 2 года назад

    Great tips thank you so much

    • @tobiaswadenka8435
      @tobiaswadenka8435  2 года назад +1

      Happy that the video helps! Thank you for your kind words!

  • @zeerak500
    @zeerak500 3 года назад +1

    Well we'll Gronya ... Surprise surprise... Nice video

  • @lukeperry1385
    @lukeperry1385 3 года назад +1

    5. How do they suggest you stand with your feet when waiting for the birdie to be returned?

  • @fereshtehfarkhondeh9554
    @fereshtehfarkhondeh9554 2 года назад

    Hello my friend
    What method do you suggest to strengthen the wrist in the blows of its name and dice?

  • @shiveshthakral7712
    @shiveshthakral7712 Год назад

    I have never seen better tutorials on badminton.

  • @enamh89
    @enamh89 3 года назад +1

    Ok mit Somerville wars wirklich überraschend👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

  • @martincerven
    @martincerven 3 года назад +20

    Hi, thanks for the tactics video! I have few questions:
    1 Should you vary the distance to the net when you are net player in attacking position? for example when standing too close to the net you can’t block or intercept drive defense because shuttle flies too fast, but when standing too back if opponent plays block you have to lift because you are standing too back
    2. If you are defending player, when to play high defense, drive defense with topspin or block, I think drive after smash is safest because you push shuttle far and low but they still have advantage and blocking is most dangerous because controlling height is difficult. So question is maybe play drives and high lifts from harder smashes and wait for opportunity to block from softer shots?
    Thanks!

    • @tobiaswadenka8435
      @tobiaswadenka8435  3 года назад +8

      Hi Martin, great questions.
      About the first one: The distance can depend a lot on the situation and also on your opponents. If they never or rarely play a counter defense, take a step forward and cover the net and if your partner plays a drop also push forward. In one of the upcoming videos there will also be tips for the positioning of the front player in terms of how close or how far away from the net so I hope this one will explain everything in detail.
      About the second one: when your opponents attack with a steep smash drive defense can be dangerous because it flies upwards directly into the racket of the opponents front court player. So I would say the angle is more important then the power. A block to the net is extremly dangerous under pressure and the right timing is curcial. But this is also one thing I will go in detail on in the next video with Gronya ;) so I hope you can wait a little longer XD

  • @jessechoi571
    @jessechoi571 3 года назад +2

    @7:00 in this scenario, she blocks but didn't go forward and the opponent attacked her backhand side easily because straight return will do the job. I think she didn't go forward is because she's probably the backcourt player and her partner is a front court player.

  • @alanma2237
    @alanma2237 2 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @shreyasbhandari6630
    @shreyasbhandari6630 3 года назад +1

    Please also make a video on full court stepping

  • @samshankland6886
    @samshankland6886 2 года назад

    Thank you

  • @balsonnaoshekpam6240
    @balsonnaoshekpam6240 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks

  • @chitung2277
    @chitung2277 3 года назад +1

    Love the excellent tips. How not to smash into the front partner if they are not squatting low or we don’t jump smash?

    • @ctyc123
      @ctyc123 3 года назад

      It should never hit your partner if you smash properly and your partner's head is at net level.

  • @intigowtham5064
    @intigowtham5064 3 года назад

    Super👌

  • @akramzaim8390
    @akramzaim8390 3 года назад

    My friend sent me the link to this video a day before our big match made me think if my partner are as good as me

  • @sandygaming2420
    @sandygaming2420 Год назад

    Watching this video the night before a badminton competition. (I haven't practiced)

  • @user-sy4xg1zz8r
    @user-sy4xg1zz8r 3 года назад +11

    4:09 i never knew this tip!!

    • @dumboyoyo5245
      @dumboyoyo5245 3 года назад

      most of the time people don't even look at their partner. The tip is a bit off. The smash has to be depend on the position of the bird. Everything is depend on the position where you or ur partner about to smash.
      Most of the time you should not smash cross court. If it slow opponent able to control your smash. No matter where ur front player stand they will have time to get the bird pass him or her. Another word after their return shot 50%+ your next shot won't be a smash.
      Anything you want to do, all you need is to learn ur opponent weakness and habit. Try to observer if the return always straight or what. Then you play around that. Smash drop whatever it is.
      And the tip on defense shot was off also. Your feet should perpendicular with the bird. If you look how in the video show when the bird is in the corner.

    • @dumboyoyo5245
      @dumboyoyo5245 3 года назад

      most of the time people don't even look at their partner. The tip is a bit off. The smash has to be depend on the position of the bird. Everything is depend on the position where you or ur partner about to smash.
      Most of the time you should not smash cross court. If it slow opponent able to control your smash. No matter where ur front player stand they will have time to get the bird pass him or her. Another word after their return shot 50%+ your next shot won't be a smash.
      Anything you want to do, all you need is to learn ur opponent weakness and habit. Try to observer if the return always straight or what. Then you play around that. Smash drop whatever it is.
      And the tip on defense shot was off also. Your feet should perpendicular with the bird. If you look how in the video show when the bird is in the corner.

  • @badmintontips_de
    @badmintontips_de Месяц назад

    Welche Position empfehlt ihr (bei der Aufschlagannahme) dem Partner des Retournierers und warum?
    Bei vielen Hobbyspielern sehe ich eine fast parallele Stellung zum Retournierer.
    Meiner Ansicht nach ist das falsch.
    Ich empfehle dem Partner eine Position nahe oder über der Mittellinie und knapp hinter dem Retournierer ausgerichtete Stellung, um zügig offensiv zu agieren.
    Nicht identisch, aber ähnlich der Stellung des Aufschlagpaares.
    --
    Which position do you recommend (when receiving the serve) for the partner of the returner and why?
    With many amateur players I see an almost parallel position to the returner.
    In my opinion, this is wrong.
    I recommend that the partner takes a position close to or above the centre line and just behind the returner in order to take a quick offensive position.
    Not identical, but similar to the position of the serving pair.

  • @vaibhavswami4198
    @vaibhavswami4198 3 года назад

    Nice tactic for beginners

  • @muhammedfarooq7219
    @muhammedfarooq7219 3 года назад

    What's the weight of your racquet , for playing doubles which is better 3u or 4u ?

    • @all4abhi
      @all4abhi 3 года назад +1

      His is Arcsaber11 and it's a 3U. Mostly now a days players are moving towards lighter rackets. It would also depend upon your plying style attack/defense and strength. A 3U headheavy will be difficult to maneuver but good for attcking.. 4U would be a safer bet since your level seems to be beginner.

  • @AmanRaj-qw8pd
    @AmanRaj-qw8pd 3 года назад +1

    Sir this tips are amazing please train me

  • @abdullahahmad184
    @abdullahahmad184 3 года назад +53

    1- Front back
    2- Fight for the lift
    3- Attack arounf area your partner is in
    4- Defensive Position. Stand ALMOST parallel to net
    5- The person doing block moves forward
    6-Move sideways in defence

  • @pkhaiamet5249
    @pkhaiamet5249 3 года назад

    I haven't played for a very long time. Decided start playing back. Which one should i train first? Help!

    • @amaniqistina4350
      @amaniqistina4350 3 года назад +1

      Maybe Footwork

    • @pkhaiamet5249
      @pkhaiamet5249 3 года назад

      @@amaniqistina4350 I've been playing for months now, but got a knee injury recently. Maybe footwork is the way to go first. Thank you

  • @gaffarsajith3514
    @gaffarsajith3514 2 года назад

    i have a men's double tournament to play on coming 4th of december. one of us should be below 40 yrs old and another player should be over 40yrs old. in this kind of situation, what kind of strategy and playing style will be very useful?

    • @tobiaswadenka8435
      @tobiaswadenka8435  2 года назад +1

      The sole age doesn't say so much. It depends on your overall level and your streghts and weaknesses. If you have one player that is a lot fitter and faster it could make sense trying to get him more to the back and the other one should look more for the net

    • @gaffarsajith3514
      @gaffarsajith3514 2 года назад

      @@tobiaswadenka8435 im 23 yrs old and i must cover back court much. right?

    • @hopper6094
      @hopper6094 2 года назад +1

      @@gaffarsajith3514 yea

  • @SanjayKumar-bt3kl
    @SanjayKumar-bt3kl 3 года назад

    Keep doing videos broo

  • @mathieuguibe9604
    @mathieuguibe9604 3 года назад

    I don't see Gronya's channel in the description or did i miss it ?

    • @tobiaswadenka8435
      @tobiaswadenka8435  3 года назад +2

      Sorry now i added the link to her video

    • @mathieuguibe9604
      @mathieuguibe9604 3 года назад

      @@tobiaswadenka8435 thanks for all the work. Great videos.

  • @usefullforhumans5985
    @usefullforhumans5985 3 года назад

    Please tell me all types of drills,footwork, exercises......,so on make all in one video coach!

  • @unique1470
    @unique1470 3 года назад +2

    The most dangerous thing happens to me is when i defend a smash i have no power & i just make contact but no stroke....& ending up in giving to their front player .......which csn easily smash at my face.....:(

    • @tobiaswadenka8435
      @tobiaswadenka8435  3 года назад +1

      Yes that usually makes it easy for the other pair. Have you watched the video about defense i did with gronya? There we give some advice about things like that (you can find it on gronyas channel) 😊

  • @LaGGingProductions
    @LaGGingProductions 3 года назад +13

    Doubles is tough, the speed is crucial but that positioning is really hard to master

    • @Mikail_199
      @Mikail_199 3 года назад

      The positioning isnt that hard. You Just have to mirror your Mate

    • @rahvij
      @rahvij 3 года назад

      Nope. Disagree. All you have to remember is, move as if there is an invisible straight rope between the two players.

    • @LaGGingProductions
      @LaGGingProductions 3 года назад

      @@rahvij it is quite hard when the game is kind of neutral. After a push shot to the back court, I wonder if I should move to the front to fend off the net shot, or move back to the centre to defend

    • @eddieliao6635
      @eddieliao6635 3 года назад

      It depends on how much pressure the push shot is, there is no standard answer, but most of the times you can move forward to the net a little bit to put more attention to the net, leave the rear court to your partner!

    • @LaGGingProductions
      @LaGGingProductions 3 года назад +1

      @@eddieliao6635 thanks! I will need to try that! Doubles is harder than singles for me

  • @mchammer1313
    @mchammer1313 3 года назад +31

    "Man is stronger than the Woman"
    The most underrated statement now.

    • @dominicsaga1420
      @dominicsaga1420 3 года назад +2

      My gf play smash while me Infront to intercept..ahahahhaha

    • @krityaawasthi9209
      @krityaawasthi9209 3 года назад +2

      Yes... Why this statement? Discrimination is really bad at this thing... That's why Disliked the video😐

    • @nikitakolobov5137
      @nikitakolobov5137 3 года назад +3

      @@krityaawasthi9209 Lol, it calls sexual dimorphism. If you had only studied at school properly, you wouldn't have hated this statement.

    • @krityaawasthi9209
      @krityaawasthi9209 3 года назад +2

      @@nikitakolobov5137 Why are you being soo rude ...i have just shared my mindset nothing else..... I just want men and women treated equally that's all.. If you have any problem with that... So i don't give a fuck to that....

    • @nikitakolobov5137
      @nikitakolobov5137 3 года назад +8

      @@krityaawasthi9209 Women and men are equal except cases where we cannot overcome our physiology. I have no problem with it, you just overreacting on the statement in the video while it has nothing to do with discrimination.

  • @jessechoi571
    @jessechoi571 3 года назад

    I was expecting some cheesy tactics e.g. passive cross drop shots (people usually defend the straight shot), when receiving serve, drive to opponent's backhand and follow through with a net kill, when serving - serve in positions which you can predict their return habit and then intercept it etc...

  • @jessechoi571
    @jessechoi571 3 года назад

    @5:58 The girl on the left side has her right foot back because she needs to face the attacking person

  • @poisonink3067
    @poisonink3067 3 года назад +1

    I'm here for school

  • @johnsonamliyak9933
    @johnsonamliyak9933 2 года назад

    For a moment I forgot I was watching a video on badminton because I was engrossed in staring at her eyes. She is so beautiful.

  • @littleman787
    @littleman787 3 года назад

    Gronya is aiiiite

  • @kasoi2228
    @kasoi2228 2 года назад

    FUN FACT - opponent also watching !!

  • @yiutun2149
    @yiutun2149 3 года назад +26

    They need a strong body and years of training to achieve this strategy😂

    • @tobiaswadenka8435
      @tobiaswadenka8435  3 года назад +9

      You need certain technical abilities, especially you need to be able to place the shuttle properly and you should be able to start and move out of the corner quickly but most of these things in the video can be useful even for people with not so much experience (but of course it needs a lot to make it look like in the video :P)

  • @estefan78
    @estefan78 3 года назад

    It's kind of disappointing that, for example, you explain why they use one leg in front of the other (which you don't really recommend 😛), but you don't explain why is a lot wiser to stay parallel to the net! What I am saying is that you should explain ALL the reasons of any positioning you want the viewer to be aware of. Thank you very much for your work.🙏😇

    • @tobiaswadenka8435
      @tobiaswadenka8435  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your feedback! As this video is about the basics i didn't want to go too deep into such details. The topic of foot position on a higher in defence on a higher level alone is so complex that you can easily make a couple of videos about it. In my experience most beginners stand to offensive in defense (one leg far in front) so focussing on a more parallel position usually helps

  • @cs7065
    @cs7065 2 года назад

    Is that Danny d?

  • @CringePatrol
    @CringePatrol 2 года назад

    tYpIcAlLy i HaTe To sAy It

  • @abulc.4996
    @abulc.4996 3 года назад

    I got 3 ads in 6 minutes video 😓

  • @cheukyin810
    @cheukyin810 2 года назад

    so many players just stick to 1 formation and never rotate.

  • @sxhilo11
    @sxhilo11 3 года назад

    Me watching as a kid to win a match in street lmao

  • @bojumtato1117
    @bojumtato1117 3 года назад +1

    Gronya.. U r soo beautiful😍😍

  • @karan-ts4fw
    @karan-ts4fw 3 года назад

    Hi

  • @eppixx7
    @eppixx7 3 года назад

    open Donation link so we can donate

  • @Banaamir
    @Banaamir 3 года назад

    Bruh

  • @hahhaharsh
    @hahhaharsh 3 года назад

    2:10 It's just nature innit. Men have more testesterone

  • @shari1055
    @shari1055 Год назад

    Pewdiepie 2.0 lol

  • @danieljohansen8232
    @danieljohansen8232 3 месяца назад

    why do you hate to state fact...?

  • @Mikail_199
    @Mikail_199 3 года назад

    Is Tobias a german? His accent sounds really german XD (i live in germany)

    • @tobiaswadenka8435
      @tobiaswadenka8435  3 года назад +2

      Yes I am and yes it sounds like that 🙈🤪

    • @Mikail_199
      @Mikail_199 3 года назад

      Wow I got a heart. Can i count it as a yes?

    • @tobiaswadenka8435
      @tobiaswadenka8435  3 года назад

      @@Mikail_199 I already wrote an answer 😉

    • @Mikail_199
      @Mikail_199 3 года назад

      @@tobiaswadenka8435 lol ja hast wahrscheinlich erst das Herz gegeben und dann geschrieben weil ich da nichts gesehen hatte und ich bin froh, dass die Antwort positiv ausgefallen ist, weil ich keine Ahnung habe wie man so einen hypotaktischen Satz im englischen verfasst. Hab morgen Training (in Bochum und natürlich Badminton) sollte also lieber pennen

    • @tobiaswadenka8435
      @tobiaswadenka8435  3 года назад +1

      @@Mikail_199 ja stimmt. Dann mal viel Spaß im Training morgen!

  • @yashasvinegi2223
    @yashasvinegi2223 Год назад

    She was so beautiful that I completely missed her's tactical part in the video..😅😂

  • @danglong6358
    @danglong6358 3 года назад

    why would u wanna say it if it is a fact :/

  • @mohdshahidiwec
    @mohdshahidiwec 2 года назад

    Why do you hate to say the fact that man is stronger.. That is just fact.. Woman has other advantages.. And man has other advantages.. If you really want to have a fair situation without looking at this fact.. There shouldn't be any woman singles or doubles.. Just play in one open tournament regardless of gender... (sorry.. A bit annoyed by her statement)

  • @slair76116
    @slair76116 3 года назад +2

    Why does she hate saying a man is stronger than a women? Have you ever watched the olympics?

  • @kingshan7191
    @kingshan7191 2 года назад

    Oh feminist

  • @allrounderpranshu4101
    @allrounderpranshu4101 3 года назад

    2:12 No , man and woman are the same . Everything a man can do , can also be done by a woman .

    • @pomo6015
      @pomo6015 2 года назад

      Yes tell them king. I'm kinda attracted to your feminine energy 😍