I really hope to see more companies use a panel like this just with some more refinement/less bugs. I'd love a good Mini-LED monitor around this price as someone who does both work and gaming on it frequently but doesn't want the poor text clarity and effort to babysit my monitor with OLED burn-in potential.
Great review as always, btw, it could be possible that you make a review of the "REDMAGIC 4K Gaming Monitor"?, is miniled too and iirc the manufacturer claims that it have more than 2000 independent dimming zones
Pls do mention(and update old reviews). If the TV or monitor has built-in active cooling fan or passive(fan-less) cooling. This is an important factor for buyer.
We'll definitely consider this for future reviews but it won't likely be something we add to previous ones unless they're part of a new test bench update!
This has the FULL 48Gbps bandwidth on the HDMI. (cite: RTINGS Review) ( _just putting this here for anyone that's curious as it wasn't mentioned in the video - at least up to __6:45__ timestamp_ )
This is one of those thing that varies based on where you live/product availability. But availability issues seems to have led to price increases. Sorry about that!
Can I get some help? Just got this monitor and I need picture settings help for Ps5 on which modes and settings to use. Also when I switch hdr in most settings aren’t adjustable.
Does anyone else get annoyed with monitor reviews that hardly show the product in action? Show me the monitor in real-time on-screen during the review!
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Hi guys really appreciate the reviews you put out. I'm actually interested in this monitor now unfortunately in my region only the innocn 27m2v-D is available. Do you know of any differences between it and the 27m2v that you reviewed?
@@nikilragav very sure. The 27m2v-D is what's available in south east asian markets. It's actually cheaper here. 617 usd with tax. Just wanted some clarity on what the difference was. If anyone knows please tell me
The store that I asked about, said that the difference between m2v and m2v-d is the dimming zones. They said that m2v-d (which is about 88$ cheaper than m2v) only have 384 dimming zones compared to m2v's 1152.
What? I can’t adjust brightness? On most monitors?? I’ve never know that. That’s super weird. I haven’t had a gaming pc since 2004, so forgive my lack of knowledge but that sounds utterly insane. Like an April Fool’s joke. And it seems so random. Like to my mind you might as well have said that I can’t adjust the colour or the volume! What am I missing??
Even if he said "in HDR" - in game brightness can be adjustable with HDR and lots of media players can do the same. Not sure why he would say something so strange. 🤔 💬
Honestly if you want to enjoy HDR content you shouldn't be using a monitor or TV at anything other than max brightness, otherwise it's not true HDR and you might as well use SDR.
I just happen to be watching a movie on my TV in movie mode with HDR right now and the default setting for brightness is set to 50 (max) but I can adjust it and I do sometimes in the dark or when… someone… in the room has a hangover or has sensitive eyes for any reason etc. So no adjustment seems a little puritanical. Like when Bungie was so precious about a curated experience they would not let us adjust volume elements separately in Halo games until so many complained that in Halo 3 they finally let us. But they punished us so that if we turned down music we lost all voice lines as well. Or we could turn off reticle but only if we sacrificed nearly all of the hud. Devs revealed years later they could have offered full adjustment. Surely these guys could bake in one more slider? Precious curators instead of sharers?
Another question friend... in the case of benq zowie 240hz or 360 hz when dyac is in premium his BFI in a matter of ms... from premium to high does his ms reduce in his BFI? For example, in your review you put 3.9 ms on zowie, I guess that's in premium dyac In high dyac would the plus or equal be less?
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There are probably a few factors. We’ve been working on improving our video process, we’ve made some changes to our video team, and we’ve launched a new R&D channel. We expect video production to trend upwards moving forward!
While we catchup on the backlog of user questions from the holidays (our team was off), we're currently answering all questions via our website to ensure we don't miss any! www.rtings.com/forums
Hello! You can actually use our custom table tool to filter the monitors we’ve tested by their input lag results: www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table If you have specific questions you can reach out to our experts via our insider forums: www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice
@@RTINGSdotcom Thank you for answering my question, and given the table you gave me about input lag, it seems that the best monitor would be ASUS VG279QM with 1.7 ms and its BFI 1.7 Do you know whether to put in the nvidia settings for example... in the section ''Adjust the size and position of the desktop'' put there "Aspect Ratio" or ''no scaling'' Does this affect input lag?
@@GraciandFaith I have the monitor and no it doesn't affect anything, I mostly play apex legends and league of legends and the monitor is great but i would recomend you go for a 1440p monitor instead if you have a beefy graphics card
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It's a 160 Hz 4k monitor. Why would you want to effectively downgrade your experience by gaming at 1440p at 60 Hz? If you are using a console, just get a cheaper, 1440p monitor to begin with.
I mean, monitors like this are driving just as many pixels as a large television, except in a quarter of the vertical and horizontal dimension. They are also refreshing these pixels around 3-4 times as fast. Most of that extra space is for passive cooling, as well as a little bit extra for backlighting as most televisions use OLED's (virtually nonexistant backlight size)
Correction: Offers decent blacks.. This has waaaayy to low contrast and wrong panel to offer anything close to "deep blacks" in a dark room.... Even with twice the contrast it still is just "OK" and not anywhere near to "deep blacks"... Maybe if it had like 10x the contrast ratio bit that's not the case so. Dissapointing that there is such a small difference between not using and using the local dimming. But that is just what IPS gives you.. Bad black levels compared to VA and absolutely horrible compared to OLEDs.
Depending on the available price it might be nice if you're restricted to a single monitor and don't want to worry about burn in. But, yeah, that's disappointing.
@@eliotcole Yeah, sure it can. But to claim it has "deep blacks in a dark room" with such a low contrast ratio is a direct lie and that irritates me. Rtings used to be better. Not that long ago such contrast ratio would just be decent.. And now it's suddenly "deep blacks" 🙈🤣 I have a screen with almost twice the contrast ratio and that is just OK. Not good and not bad but avaerage. Anything lower than about 3-4000 contrast ratio is just not good. Screen size has a little to say since it's more noticable on a bigger screen than a small screen so.
Hey all! I just wanted to jump in here in hopes of clarifying a few things. It’s worth mentioning that our measured contrast with local dimming is lower than expected because the local dimming doesn't handle the contrast pattern well, but otherwise in most content blacks are deep and inky. The results just aren’t necessarily indicative of that. Sorry for the confusion!
@@RTINGSdotcom If there are over 1100 dimming zones it should handle that easy pattern extremely good... So if it does not handle such a simple and easy pattern I would test if the actual amount of zones are correct.. Seems like there are way less if it can't handle such an easy task. Displays with ALOT less zones has handled that pattern better.. So something is really off here... Smells fishy. And no.. This monitor has nothing close to "deep and inky" blacks... Unless you have an insane amount of dinming zones and litteraly block the light from bleeding into the black parts it is physicly not possible to do with IPS LCD or even with VA LCD. Even though VA natively has atleast 3-4 times better black levels than IPS.. Something rtings also used to know before all the new people came..
@@Oystein87 Could be terribly tuned local dimming. Like how Sony TVs nowadays technically have less dimming zones than the competition, but in practice actually provide much better image quality overall due to making better use of what is there.
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Got the 32m2v last week... Fantastic HDR performance for PS5/XSX games and streaming HDR videos.....the HDR looks similar as my LG 65 Oled
I really hope to see more companies use a panel like this just with some more refinement/less bugs.
I'd love a good Mini-LED monitor around this price as someone who does both work and gaming on it frequently but doesn't want the poor text clarity and effort to babysit my monitor with OLED burn-in potential.
Great review as always, btw, it could be possible that you make a review of the "REDMAGIC 4K Gaming Monitor"?, is miniled too and iirc the manufacturer claims that it have more than 2000 independent dimming zones
No plans at the moment but we’ll consider it if theres enough user interest!
it's basically the same panel as the innocn one but with better firmware. it can also do 160hz gsync while the innocn can not
@@consumev thanks for your reply, found the panel info on displayninja and as u said is the same on both
Redmagic has 1152 dimming zones. They call them "lighting partitions."
Hey guys, what do you think about Pcgamer dunking on minileds and suggesting VA panels over them.
Pls do mention(and update old reviews). If the TV or monitor has built-in active cooling fan or passive(fan-less) cooling. This is an important factor for buyer.
We'll definitely consider this for future reviews but it won't likely be something we add to previous ones unless they're part of a new test bench update!
This has the FULL 48Gbps bandwidth on the HDMI. (cite: RTINGS Review)
( _just putting this here for anyone that's curious as it wasn't mentioned in the video - at least up to __6:45__ timestamp_ )
Nice review! Acer Nitro XV275K P3 next please and thank you!
👀
@@RTINGSdotcom Hi does his input lag increase when using HDR with local dimming?
Bottom right of screen touch thing is the exactly same as old LG 27MU67 that I got and I hate it!
EU link plz.
1:15 😂
Btw, the angle is completely solvable with some napkins or some cardboard! 😅
Did this man just say most affordable 4k monitor when they r £900 brand new
This is one of those thing that varies based on where you live/product availability. But availability issues seems to have led to price increases. Sorry about that!
Can I get some help? Just got this monitor and I need picture settings help for Ps5 on which modes and settings to use. Also when I switch hdr in most settings aren’t adjustable.
Does anyone else get annoyed with monitor reviews that hardly show the product in action? Show me the monitor in real-time on-screen during the review!
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@@JosGeerink ?
@@zackary87kr I was just copying the previous comments
Hi, i have this Monitor and i play on PS5, but it always say that i dont have VRR suport, but in the video you showed that, how can i active VRR?
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Are there other cons? How is the color accuracy?
I just won the 32 in version through an auction for 375. I’m trying to make the colors brighter while using HDR for the PS5. Any advise?
VESA mount?
(EDIT: Yes it's 100x100mm)
how does this monitor compare to the GP27U in terms of total response time GtG + input latency for FPS gaming?
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Wish this came in 1440p at a cheaper price. Maybe sub 500 even?
Yes. It's on Amazon already
KTC makes a 1440p miniled high refresh monitor for under $500
Hi guys really appreciate the reviews you put out. I'm actually interested in this monitor now unfortunately in my region only the innocn 27m2v-D is available. Do you know of any differences between it and the 27m2v that you reviewed?
Unfortunately not, as we have no data on regional variants. Sorry about that!
@@RTINGSdotcom Dang, oh well. Thanks for the reply anyway!
Are you sure it's not 27m2u-D? Haven't seen a v-D
@@nikilragav very sure. The 27m2v-D is what's available in south east asian markets. It's actually cheaper here. 617 usd with tax. Just wanted some clarity on what the difference was. If anyone knows please tell me
The store that I asked about, said that the difference between m2v and m2v-d is the dimming zones. They said that m2v-d (which is about 88$ cheaper than m2v) only have 384 dimming zones compared to m2v's 1152.
Does such a monitor exists, but in 2K instead of 4k?
Coolmaster and KTC make such monitors. Acer will make one available later this year.
What? I can’t adjust brightness? On most monitors?? I’ve never know that. That’s super weird. I haven’t had a gaming pc since 2004, so forgive my lack of knowledge but that sounds utterly insane. Like an April Fool’s joke. And it seems so random. Like to my mind you might as well have said that I can’t adjust the colour or the volume! What am I missing??
You can't adjust brightness in HDR. But in normal sdr mode you obviously can
On most monitors *in HDR mode*, yes. At least for monitors that have real HDR support.
Even if he said "in HDR" - in game brightness can be adjustable with HDR and lots of media players can do the same. Not sure why he would say something so strange. 🤔 💬
Honestly if you want to enjoy HDR content you shouldn't be using a monitor or TV at anything other than max brightness, otherwise it's not true HDR and you might as well use SDR.
I just happen to be watching a movie on my TV in movie mode with HDR right now and the default setting for brightness is set to 50 (max) but I can adjust it and I do sometimes in the dark or when… someone… in the room has a hangover or has sensitive eyes for any reason etc.
So no adjustment seems a little puritanical. Like when Bungie was so precious about a curated experience they would not let us adjust volume elements separately in Halo games until so many complained that in Halo 3 they finally let us. But they punished us so that if we turned down music we lost all voice lines as well. Or we could turn off reticle but only if we sacrificed nearly all of the hud. Devs revealed years later they could have offered full adjustment. Surely these guys could bake in one more slider?
Precious curators instead of sharers?
Pro tip when reviewing a monitor have demo video running on it.
Another question friend... in the case of benq zowie 240hz or 360 hz when dyac is in premium his BFI in a matter of ms... from premium to high does his ms reduce in his BFI?
For example, in your review you put 3.9 ms on zowie, I guess that's in premium dyac
In high dyac would the plus or equal be less?
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How comes the volume of videos from this Channel has been reduced so much over the last year or so.
There are probably a few factors. We’ve been working on improving our video process, we’ve made some changes to our video team, and we’ve launched a new R&D channel. We expect video production to trend upwards moving forward!
Should i buy this or jus keep console gaming on my lg oled c1?
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Impossible to buy in Canada or even ship to Canada.
does his input lag increase when using HDR with local dimming?
In most likely has a negligeable impact but it isn’t something we have our own data on so we can’t say for sure. Sorry about that!
What monitors gaming have the most less input lag in 1080p?
Asus 280hz?
Alienware 360hz ?
Benq zowie ?
Tell me pls
Hello!
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@@RTINGSdotcom Thank you for answering my question, and given the table you gave me about input lag, it seems that the best monitor would be
ASUS VG279QM with 1.7 ms and its BFI 1.7
Do you know whether to put in the nvidia settings for example... in the section
''Adjust the size and position of the desktop''
put there "Aspect Ratio" or
''no scaling''
Does this affect input lag?
@@GraciandFaith I have the monitor and no it doesn't affect anything, I mostly play apex legends and league of legends and the monitor is great but i would recomend you go for a 1440p monitor instead if you have a beefy graphics card
Is this monitor good for 1440p gaming?
I prefer to keep the general stuff on 4k, but 4k gaming on 27" at 60hz?
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It's a 160 Hz 4k monitor. Why would you want to effectively downgrade your experience by gaming at 1440p at 60 Hz? If you are using a console, just get a cheaper, 1440p monitor to begin with.
what about content creation, like drone videos?
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That shiet is THICC from behind
It surprising we have TVs which are absolutely FLAT and thin. Meanwhile 27" 32" Monitors are THICK?
I mean, monitors like this are driving just as many pixels as a large television, except in a quarter of the vertical and horizontal dimension. They are also refreshing these pixels around 3-4 times as fast. Most of that extra space is for passive cooling, as well as a little bit extra for backlighting as most televisions use OLED's (virtually nonexistant backlight size)
Not available in eu :(
Coming in October.
🥸
Correction:
Offers decent blacks.. This has waaaayy to low contrast and wrong panel to offer anything close to "deep blacks" in a dark room....
Even with twice the contrast it still is just "OK" and not anywhere near to "deep blacks"... Maybe if it had like 10x the contrast ratio bit that's not the case so.
Dissapointing that there is such a small difference between not using and using the local dimming.
But that is just what IPS gives you.. Bad black levels compared to VA and absolutely horrible compared to OLEDs.
Depending on the available price it might be nice if you're restricted to a single monitor and don't want to worry about burn in.
But, yeah, that's disappointing.
@@eliotcole Yeah, sure it can.
But to claim it has "deep blacks in a dark room" with such a low contrast ratio is a direct lie and that irritates me.
Rtings used to be better. Not that long ago such contrast ratio would just be decent.. And now it's suddenly "deep blacks" 🙈🤣 I have a screen with almost twice the contrast ratio and that is just OK. Not good and not bad but avaerage. Anything lower than about 3-4000 contrast ratio is just not good. Screen size has a little to say since it's more noticable on a bigger screen than a small screen so.
Hey all! I just wanted to jump in here in hopes of clarifying a few things. It’s worth mentioning that our measured contrast with local dimming is lower than expected because the local dimming doesn't handle the contrast pattern well, but otherwise in most content blacks are deep and inky. The results just aren’t necessarily indicative of that. Sorry for the confusion!
@@RTINGSdotcom If there are over 1100 dimming zones it should handle that easy pattern extremely good... So if it does not handle such a simple and easy pattern I would test if the actual amount of zones are correct.. Seems like there are way less if it can't handle such an easy task.
Displays with ALOT less zones has handled that pattern better.. So something is really off here... Smells fishy.
And no.. This monitor has nothing close to "deep and inky" blacks... Unless you have an insane amount of dinming zones and litteraly block the light from bleeding into the black parts it is physicly not possible to do with IPS LCD or even with VA LCD. Even though VA natively has atleast 3-4 times better black levels than IPS..
Something rtings also used to know before all the new people came..
@@Oystein87
Could be terribly tuned local dimming. Like how Sony TVs nowadays technically have less dimming zones than the competition, but in practice actually provide much better image quality overall due to making better use of what is there.
Rtings please setting Xbox series x wirh Neo Qled qn85b Deep color Standard or Pc RGB?and 8 or 10 bit?help me
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Where can you even buy this?
It’s a bit tough at the moment unfortunately!
I recently got a open box one on their website for 450 worth it at that price