Don’t forget that tying up with rope is a slight of hand, rope weighs 10, and arcane tricksters mage hand can make slight of hand checks as a bonus action and hold 10 lbs.
yes it can make sleight of hand checks as a bonus action, but the rope is the utilize action and so the mage hand shouldn't be able to use that specific function of rope.
@@haiclips3358 You can also use the regular mage hand-actions as a BA if you're an arcane trickster and manipulate an object is still a base-option of the mage hand
Some good tech with the replace an attack from the attack action stuff alongside floor hazards would be if you had a party member who was a warlock with chain and investment of the chain master because that way you ignore the base dc's of these objects because it is a saving throw being caused by your familiar and you use the warlock's save dc (attack stuff can be commanded to do so as a bonus action, anything else on the creature's (probably imp) turn as an action and then give them stuff you immediately want them to do like throwing a net) and bonus if the creature is an imp it never needs to leave invisibility because it's not making an attack roll or casting a spell, if the familiar runs out of ammunition then they can get it from the warlock's bag
Yeah, I think that does work with the replacements. That's pretty good. Don't think that the floor hazards work though, because they aren't an effect caused by the familiar.
Team play: Hypnotic pattern. Silvery barbs those thst made the save. Focus fire those that are not affected. Chain and manacle remaining targets that are still incapacitated.
I've always had a soft spot for rogues despite being a forever DM for 3 decades, so I always look at the old rogue staples for messing up some baddie's day. I was very pleasantly surprised when I looked through the adventuring gear. That by itself has won me over to 5e24's side
This is what makes the rogue thief so broken: he can double chain a grappled creature, or put manacles as abonus action, said, you put manacles but not on foot or feet, be creative: put manacles on one hand and one feet, now try to move, fool! 😂🤣 And since rogue can use expertise and new rules use skillchecks to put these on enemies, is asick on the rhief who can double use them
The oil-on-fire damage from dousing does seem to be a *one time thing* though. The 'after 1 minute' refers to how long the oil lasts before it dries or gets wicked away by clothing and rendered useless. If the oil remained flammable, why does it not continue to burn from round to round once lit, i.e. doing 50 (= 5 x 10 rounds) damage? The rules would say something like 'Once lit, the oil continues to burn for 1 minute doing 5 fire damage per round until extinguished. Extinguishing the fire requires a Utilize Action or total submersion in water, mud, or sand.'
Oil and rope were not useful before? Ouch, harsh DM. I'm curious if DMs are going to allow the same person to grapple and tie someone up. Seems very ridiculous.
I'd like to point out the conjuration wizard. The more rules we have for standard stuff the better minor conjuration is. Hopefully they don't ruin that when they finally rework conjuration wizard.
You're forgetting that monk can Flurry first now, land the stun, then use their action to apply rope or chain. Giving up your turn to just restrain is mediocre, but giving up only 2 out of 4 or 5 potential attacks to restrain is excellent, especially if it takes their whole Action with a successful check to break out.
I’m super happy to see someone talking about adventuring gear! I think it’s really underrated in 2014, and I was curious to see if it got any changes in 2024!
Smiths tools allow you to add proficiency to breaking open doors and chests now. Athletics prof + Smiths Tools / Crowbar will give you advantage plus proficiency. There is probably a supercombo against doors that involves the Ram.
The best thing about caltrops is that they removed the part about moving at half speed to be unaffected (which is better than movement to 0 and which monsters should pick every time). What is unclear is whether monsters can easily see caltrops or ball bearings? If you place them in front of you in open space can we assume a zombie will always navigate around? Can you hide them in leaves so they don't know they are there? The weakness of caltrops in your Orc example if they are always seen is that every Orc can very easily long jump the caltrops for no movement penalty. This suggests to me that monsters DO NOT know caltrops are there if they did not see them laid.
Items like crowbar that grant advantage are more useful now since the help action is limited to actions where you have a relevant skill or tool proficiency. If 5 characters are trying to kick a door in and none have the athletics proficiency, the help action is not open to them.
As an American and a Paladin player with a pyromancer wizard in the party... yep we're telling the Blood Hunter to grab some oil, they have the better dex mod lol. Even as a Dexadin I've still got the lower mod.
I hate to be a killjoy, but I’d like to see some creators talk about accessing gear. I’m pretty strict bc I do t like the videogamey “I take the halberd out of my backpack as a free action m.”
What's to talk about? You can equip or unequip one item with your free interaction. You can equip or unequip one weapon as part of each attack made with the attack action (weapons only, two with dual wielder). That's all there is.
Opportunity Attacks include unarmed strikes now. Means you can grapple, preventing them from moving at all. Combine that with grappler and you can do damage at the same time. Combine it with Tavern Brawler and arguably you could use anyone you grapple as an improved weapon
I really wish they made Caltrops and Ball bearings something that covers more than a 5ft square per use. I had a player once that wanted to use them so I houseruled something about choosing up to 4 squares in I think a 10ft range to be filled in one action (and expending 4x as many resources). Worked pretty decently.
@@CalebWillden Oh yeah, my mistake. I wrote that in a hurry. I meant as in both can now do the same. For ball bearings it doesn't have to be one 10ft square, it can be spread like a line of 5x20ft.
Because the grappling hook says you can throw it 50 ft and says you can climb a rope attached to it if you tied it prior to the throw, I infer 50 ft for the 1 gp purchase price.
Remember that all the orcs can stop on the same space simultaniously... as reducing their speed to 0 is not them willingly ending their turn on another creature's space... so, they could "move through" each other and then bundle up... meaning thay could all end up in the same space, being only hindered at the same time and then moving past together the turn after - not coming one at a time... but all at the same time
@@apjapki Yep! "You can't willingly end a move in a space occupied by another creature. If you somehow end a turn in a space with another creature, you have the Prone condition unless you are Tiny or are of a larger size than the other creature." So if you get a pileup they're losing all their remaining movement for the turn they step on the caltrops, *and* half of their movement for the next turn, due to the need to get up.
@@booxmowo2684 My question in another chat: Can't the orcs all just long jump the caltrops and avoid them entirely? To what extent are they hidden? If they see me lay them, are they hidden?
The attack replacement items are best used by a rogue who has the nick weapon mastery. Without a fighting style, the weapon attack isn’t much damage, but you can replace it with a net or oil. Thief can restrain with a net, then fast hands to use a rope to get a second, stronger layer of restrained (assuming they attacked with a light weapon first, they may not have even given up their main attack).
I don't think this works. You have two knives. You throw the first knife which would then allow you to make a Nick attack as part of the same action. You are not holding the rope/net. You cannot equip rope/net as part of the attack action (its not a weapon). You cannot interrupt your attack action to use your free item interaction to equip the rope/net (the attack action description is very clear about the things you can do between attacks as part of the attack action). I don't even think the dual wielder feat can help you. I don't think giving up a Nick attack is a legal interaction but you can homebrew that it is.
People complained about 4e videogame-ifying D&D. They were wrong. This is the videogamification of D&D. Older editions didn't need to give each item in the equipment list specific limited game mechanic uses. If you could think of a use for an item on the equipment list, you could tell the DM what you were trying, make a roll, and more often than not do the thing. Now, it doesn't matter what the players can imagine. Everything has one specific in-game function. At the end of the day, we lost bonds, ideals, and flaws so that the page space could be wasted reprinting the tool tips that will pop up on the D&D Beyond VTT. Buying first-party products was already a big ask after the OGL and Pinkertons nonsense. This and the flavor free/exploration free Ranger are not helping Hasbro's case.
Hi. I see you are brand new to D&D. Welcome! Everybody is welcome to play the game and have fun. In the olden times there was an ancient game called “D&D 3rd Edition.” In this ancient tome which is lost to time and definitely not Googleable, every item had specific rules for use, often with whole tables of DCs for suggested actions. Back then, though, mature adults knew that just because it gave some suggestions you were free to think up other ways to use it and your DM would adjudicate because D&D is a game of IMAGINATION!!
Lots of RPGs have mechanical benefits to every equipment item listed in the book. To think this is purely from video games feels kinda ignorant. Why waste much space talking about things that are purely in the world of imagination and ingenuity? I don't need a book to tell me that a frying pan exists with no pre-defined in-game benefits.
@@hawkname1234 It's impressive how hard you missed the point. Yes. My shelf full of 3e books has tables and DC ranges for suggested skill checks that might gain bonuses from having equipment on hand. This is not that. This is specific actions tied to having specific items in hand. Rope is now used to preform the "Rope" action. They took the tooltip that's going to be in their VTT and codified it in the PHB. But go ahead and keep up with the delusion that you are the adult in this conversation. It's hilarious.
Don’t forget that tying up with rope is a slight of hand, rope weighs 10, and arcane tricksters mage hand can make slight of hand checks as a bonus action and hold 10 lbs.
Ooooh, that could actually be amazing.
yes it can make sleight of hand checks as a bonus action, but the rope is the utilize action and so the mage hand shouldn't be able to use that specific function of rope.
@@haiclips3358 You can also use the regular mage hand-actions as a BA if you're an arcane trickster and manipulate an object is still a base-option of the mage hand
Chalk is an amazing mundane item. 1 Copper piece and you never get lost in a dungeon and it also helps with planning because you can draw
Yeah my players are getting sent this.
Lamp oil? Rope? What's next, bombs?
Rupees of course
It's yours my friend l! As long as you've got enough "rubees"!
Come back when you're a little richer!
Some good tech with the replace an attack from the attack action stuff alongside floor hazards would be if you had a party member who was a warlock with chain and investment of the chain master because that way you ignore the base dc's of these objects because it is a saving throw being caused by your familiar and you use the warlock's save dc (attack stuff can be commanded to do so as a bonus action, anything else on the creature's (probably imp) turn as an action and then give them stuff you immediately want them to do like throwing a net) and bonus if the creature is an imp it never needs to leave invisibility because it's not making an attack roll or casting a spell, if the familiar runs out of ammunition then they can get it from the warlock's bag
Yeah, I think that does work with the replacements. That's pretty good. Don't think that the floor hazards work though, because they aren't an effect caused by the familiar.
Team play:
Hypnotic pattern.
Silvery barbs those thst made the save. Focus fire those that are not affected.
Chain and manacle remaining targets that are still incapacitated.
I've always had a soft spot for rogues despite being a forever DM for 3 decades, so I always look at the old rogue staples for messing up some baddie's day. I was very pleasantly surprised when I looked through the adventuring gear. That by itself has won me over to 5e24's side
Always excited when I see the alert that you have a new video! Thank you
This is what makes the rogue thief so broken: he can double chain a grappled creature, or put manacles as abonus action, said, you put manacles but not on foot or feet, be creative: put manacles on one hand and one feet, now try to move, fool! 😂🤣
And since rogue can use expertise and new rules use skillchecks to put these on enemies, is asick on the rhief who can double use them
funny, now i have a thief as police officer in mind.
Finally, it’s the rope play rogue’s time to shine.
The oil-on-fire damage from dousing does seem to be a *one time thing* though. The 'after 1 minute' refers to how long the oil lasts before it dries or gets wicked away by clothing and rendered useless. If the oil remained flammable, why does it not continue to burn from round to round once lit, i.e. doing 50 (= 5 x 10 rounds) damage? The rules would say something like 'Once lit, the oil continues to burn for 1 minute doing 5 fire damage per round until extinguished. Extinguishing the fire requires a Utilize Action or total submersion in water, mud, or sand.'
Oil and rope were not useful before? Ouch, harsh DM.
I'm curious if DMs are going to allow the same person to grapple and tie someone up. Seems very ridiculous.
I'd like to point out the conjuration wizard. The more rules we have for standard stuff the better minor conjuration is. Hopefully they don't ruin that when they finally rework conjuration wizard.
You're forgetting that monk can Flurry first now, land the stun, then use their action to apply rope or chain. Giving up your turn to just restrain is mediocre, but giving up only 2 out of 4 or 5 potential attacks to restrain is excellent, especially if it takes their whole Action with a successful check to break out.
I’m super happy to see someone talking about adventuring gear! I think it’s really underrated in 2014, and I was curious to see if it got any changes in 2024!
Can't wait to play a thief rogue
Smiths tools allow you to add proficiency to breaking open doors and chests now. Athletics prof + Smiths Tools / Crowbar will give you advantage plus proficiency. There is probably a supercombo against doors that involves the Ram.
Oil + torch is a good combo for early game if you're a fighter facing something that's resistant or immune to BSP.
The best thing about caltrops is that they removed the part about moving at half speed to be unaffected (which is better than movement to 0 and which monsters should pick every time).
What is unclear is whether monsters can easily see caltrops or ball bearings? If you place them in front of you in open space can we assume a zombie will always navigate around? Can you hide them in leaves so they don't know they are there?
The weakness of caltrops in your Orc example if they are always seen is that every Orc can very easily long jump the caltrops for no movement penalty. This suggests to me that monsters DO NOT know caltrops are there if they did not see them laid.
I recently used ball bearings to determine what 5' square an invisible enemy was in.
Rope? Oil? Bombs?
Want it? Its yours my friend.
Nice reference 😂
Items like crowbar that grant advantage are more useful now since the help action is limited to actions where you have a relevant skill or tool proficiency. If 5 characters are trying to kick a door in and none have the athletics proficiency, the help action is not open to them.
As an American and a Paladin player with a pyromancer wizard in the party... yep we're telling the Blood Hunter to grab some oil, they have the better dex mod lol. Even as a Dexadin I've still got the lower mod.
Are they using that one alchemisty subclass that just gets to have +5 DEX/STR/INT?
@@the_twig131 Nope, just dex based Lycan but DM gave us a stat bump and I’m simply more Cha based than Dex.
Why is the Hunting Trap niche? It's the best one for a thief! Yes it only targets one creature but the effect is very strong.
Thanks Twig.
Where are the gags and blindfolds? 😏😫
I hate to be a killjoy, but I’d like to see some creators talk about accessing gear. I’m pretty strict bc I do t like the videogamey “I take the halberd out of my backpack as a free action m.”
What's to talk about? You can equip or unequip one item with your free interaction. You can equip or unequip one weapon as part of each attack made with the attack action (weapons only, two with dual wielder). That's all there is.
Ooo. Please talk about the unarmed fighting style! There has to be some niches for it that aren't just flavor or worse monk.
Opportunity Attacks include unarmed strikes now. Means you can grapple, preventing them from moving at all. Combine that with grappler and you can do damage at the same time. Combine it with Tavern Brawler and arguably you could use anyone you grapple as an improved weapon
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I really wish they made Caltrops and Ball bearings something that covers more than a 5ft square per use.
I had a player once that wanted to use them so I houseruled something about choosing up to 4 squares in I think a 10ft range to be filled in one action (and expending 4x as many resources). Worked pretty decently.
Ball Bearings do already cover a 10-foot square. But yeah, being able to pour out more caltrops at a time could certainly be nice!
You can use your action plus bonus action to cover 5ft by 10ft. Is that not enough?
@@CalebWillden Oh yeah, my mistake. I wrote that in a hurry. I meant as in both can now do the same. For ball bearings it doesn't have to be one 10ft square, it can be spread like a line of 5x20ft.
My only complaint is that we don't know how much rope and chain we're getting when we buy it...
My guess is you have "enough" at the time of utilization.
Because the grappling hook says you can throw it 50 ft and says you can climb a rope attached to it if you tied it prior to the throw, I infer 50 ft for the 1 gp purchase price.
Yeah, it's a little bizarre that they specify the weight, but not length. I just have to assume it's supposed to be the 2014 lengths.
Remember that all the orcs can stop on the same space simultaniously... as reducing their speed to 0 is not them willingly ending their turn on another creature's space... so, they could "move through" each other and then bundle up... meaning thay could all end up in the same space, being only hindered at the same time and then moving past together the turn after - not coming one at a time... but all at the same time
It's an interesting point. Doesn't the book say something like ending your movement in the same space as another creature puts you prone?
@@apjapki Yep! "You can't willingly end a move in a space occupied by another creature. If you somehow end a turn in a space with another creature, you have the Prone condition unless you are Tiny or are of a larger size than the other creature."
So if you get a pileup they're losing all their remaining movement for the turn they step on the caltrops, *and* half of their movement for the next turn, due to the need to get up.
@@apjapki Not to my knowledge :)
@@booxmowo2684 My question in another chat: Can't the orcs all just long jump the caltrops and avoid them entirely? To what extent are they hidden? If they see me lay them, are they hidden?
Love all the teamwork potential! One of my favorite parts of the new book.
The attack replacement items are best used by a rogue who has the nick weapon mastery. Without a fighting style, the weapon attack isn’t much damage, but you can replace it with a net or oil.
Thief can restrain with a net, then fast hands to use a rope to get a second, stronger layer of restrained (assuming they attacked with a light weapon first, they may not have even given up their main attack).
I don't think this works. You have two knives. You throw the first knife which would then allow you to make a Nick attack as part of the same action. You are not holding the rope/net. You cannot equip rope/net as part of the attack action (its not a weapon). You cannot interrupt your attack action to use your free item interaction to equip the rope/net (the attack action description is very clear about the things you can do between attacks as part of the attack action). I don't even think the dual wielder feat can help you.
I don't think giving up a Nick attack is a legal interaction but you can homebrew that it is.
People complained about 4e videogame-ifying D&D. They were wrong. This is the videogamification of D&D.
Older editions didn't need to give each item in the equipment list specific limited game mechanic uses. If you could think of a use for an item on the equipment list, you could tell the DM what you were trying, make a roll, and more often than not do the thing. Now, it doesn't matter what the players can imagine. Everything has one specific in-game function.
At the end of the day, we lost bonds, ideals, and flaws so that the page space could be wasted reprinting the tool tips that will pop up on the D&D Beyond VTT. Buying first-party products was already a big ask after the OGL and Pinkertons nonsense. This and the flavor free/exploration free Ranger are not helping Hasbro's case.
Hi. I see you are brand new to D&D. Welcome! Everybody is welcome to play the game and have fun.
In the olden times there was an ancient game called “D&D 3rd Edition.” In this ancient tome which is lost to time and definitely not Googleable, every item had specific rules for use, often with whole tables of DCs for suggested actions. Back then, though, mature adults knew that just because it gave some suggestions you were free to think up other ways to use it and your DM would adjudicate because D&D is a game of IMAGINATION!!
Lots of RPGs have mechanical benefits to every equipment item listed in the book. To think this is purely from video games feels kinda ignorant. Why waste much space talking about things that are purely in the world of imagination and ingenuity? I don't need a book to tell me that a frying pan exists with no pre-defined in-game benefits.
@@hawkname1234 It's impressive how hard you missed the point. Yes. My shelf full of 3e books has tables and DC ranges for suggested skill checks that might gain bonuses from having equipment on hand. This is not that. This is specific actions tied to having specific items in hand. Rope is now used to preform the "Rope" action. They took the tooltip that's going to be in their VTT and codified it in the PHB.
But go ahead and keep up with the delusion that you are the adult in this conversation. It's hilarious.