It is absolutely essential to mention that only the cell version has the built in GPS! Many ppl have said that an external GPS is recommended for Foreflight but having the internal GPS handy is definitely a plus even if you don’t use cell service at all.
One additional thing to consider: only cellular version offers GPS currently, so one need to add external GPS via Bluetooth. Which then is as expensive as buying cellular directly. Only advantage is that modern external devices also support Glonass & Galileo which leads to even more precise positions (Might not be necessary even in the pattern though… 😃)
Indeed, I actually wouldn't even consider or recommend a wifi only model for it's lack of gps. Even if you do happen to have an external unit, it's alwasy nice to have the redundancy and ease of use of a built in gps
The nice thing about an external GPS, if you get a Stratux or Stratus or similar, is the ADS-B in. That’s how you’ll see where the other planes are that you can’t literally see, get the weather inflight, etc. Of course, having an internal GPS is a nice backup, but the external with ADS-B In is critical (IMHO).
@Jannik Weichert please how do you add external GPS via Bluetooth because I find it difficult using Air navigation pro app on my mini 5 wifi model and I happen to have a 12 pro max do I just connect my Bluetooth just asking please
Thank you so much for this! I’m a private pilot, studying IFR ground. I don’t have an ipad but have always been curious about flying with one. My friend recommended the mini wifi only because he recommends an external gps, apple pencil and a yoke mount. I was worried it would be too small and the charts would be hard to read but it looked pretty clear to me when you showed them in the video. I think I’ll buy this one. Thank you!
Dude I really hope you’re ok and doing well. Hope lockdown ends soon and I hope to see you back in the air! Great video and best wishes from me over in the UK. John I use the IPad 5 and love it for my flying. I use it connected to the cockpit dashboard.
I've been looking for an iPad mini review from a pilot's perspective, and this was it! I've never used an iPad as an EFB before, what apps (preferably free) would you suggest?
Hey Stef, I’ve recently updated to a mini 5 with Cellular, importantly GPS is built in on cellular versions. I alternate between GP and OZRUNWAYS, and have a GDL90 FOR GP and Ping for OZ for ADSB In. It also adds messaging with my Garmin Inreach and I will add a flightstream 510 to my GTN650 for updates It’s on a RAM mount on my yoke I previously had a IPad Pro. And am really happy with the new setup.
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Does the external Ping + OzRunways give all ADSB traffic, or just the OzRunways users? Cheers
When you are in the locked screen, you can just tap on the screen with the pencil to open the notes app. Swipe from the bottom right is actually meant for using notes while you are on another app.
I made the mistake of getting 64GB on my mini5. Regretted it from day one. I couldn’t update my ForeFlight charts before the expiration date because it didn’t have enough space. Went 256 on my mini6. The Mini6 battery life is not quite as good as 5. My theory is the constant charging of the pencil2 is a factor, which I’ve experienced on my Pro with the pencil2. Definitely get cellular version.
Agreed. For pilots the Cellular is a must for the GPS. In my opinion an EFB without GPS doesn't make sense and I don't want to deal with an external GPS Receiver in the plane.
There's no need to have built-in GPS if you have an external ADS-B receiver like a Stratus or Stratux. In fact, I would never rely solely on the iPad's GPS over an external ADS-B receiver because you're not going to get traffic with it, which is really the most important thing.
I've been using the iPad mini 5 since I got out of flight school (not allowed to use EFBs) and I think it just makes flying simpler and safer in many respects. Already ordered the mini 6 (will keep 2 ipads one for backup) and now I'm just waiting for us to be allowed flying again!
Yeah as a Private Pilot I can't imagine flying without the iPad now to be honest. Having access to every map and chart I could possibly need on one device rather than carrying stacks of paper is not only convenient it's a safety benefit in my opinion.
@@StjepanNikolic Just briefly looking at the index of the Part 91 Plain English Guide there isn't much on the topic, could you give a reference? Trying to not read too much of the new stuff just yet before sitting ATPL Air Law and getting new and old regs mixed up😂
@@yesitasnow it doesn't need the sim for GPS but I believe it can acquire a signal more quickly if it has network access. I have a backup iPad mini 5 with no SIM (but SIM model) and no issues with GPS
I use the iPad mini 6 when I fly and love it. I got the cellular after dealing with a 3rd party gps on a previous iPad. One less thing to make sure is charged and ready to go in the flight bag makes life easy.
Thanks for the video. I'm working on a project to adopt iPads for agricultural use. I'd be a nice replacement for old-fashioned tractor screens farmers use now. Your video gives me a bit of evidence that farmers will love that too.
I came here to know if I should go with 64gb or 256gb. I would’ve preferred 128, but I plan to strictly use this for flying. Looks like I’m going to save some money and go with the mini 64gb! Thanks!
I got back into aviation this summer after a multi-year layoff. Knowing that a new mini was coming I've just been using my iPhone 8 and Foreflight. It's not as bad as you might think. But my mini 6 is on order and I should have it in a couple of weeks. Went for the bigger memory and with gps/cellular but not with the pencil. I figured I'd wait and see if I really need the pencil first.
Just wanted to point out, if the iPads screen is off, all you have to do is start writing. You don’t need to swipe from the edge. The edge swipe with the pen is for the quick note when you’re already using the iPad and want to take a quick note. 👍🏽
As others have said, you need the cellular version to get the in-built GPS. Also, you must have a back-up, either another device or paper back-up. Cheers.
For private flying (in Australia), the iPad alone is sufficient. The requirement is to carry maps & charts applicable to the route being flown (plus alternates) and readily accessible. This means your iPad must be charged, within reach and everything downloaded into Settings → Downloads before flight. If you are flying under a company AOC, then additional legislation applies which includes backups etc.
@@FranksMSFlightSimulator that not correct, my comment was for Australia, we don’t need a backup, people misread / misunderstand that requirement for AOC requirements.
Great overview Stef! Mine came yesterday after upgrading from a mini 1 (yes 1..) and already loving it, can’t wait to see how it goes in the cockpit (and your videos when we’re able to fly again). I agree about the software, hopefully Apple can iron the bugs out soon and maybe stretch out the UI to better fit the mini. Quick tip for quick notes, if the screen is off then you can just tap and hold the pencil anywhere on the screen to start writing, not just from the corner (but the corner will work in apps too) in case it is a bit turbulent. Hopefully you can get back up in EYZ soon :)
where I don't like the scratch pad style note taking is you don't have a record of all the notes you made during the flight. I feel it is good airmanship to keep all flight notes, clearances, frequencies etc - just in case they are needed post flight, for what ever reason... Great videos Stefan - keep them rolling....
I’m from the states and I’m on my PPL cert at the moment and recently got a knee strap for my 10.2 inch iPad. It was so bulky that i bought a different case and decided to not use the strap anymore as it interfered with the controls. I’ve definitely been looking at the mini ever since that happened
Yeah I ordered on the day of release. I wanted to share what it's like with everyone early as I know there will be a lot of interest in the travel community.
@@RezeeVL Yeah, I believe it basically degrades to an electronic paper map. You’ll need an external GPS source for position info on a WiFi iPad. Something like a Stratus or Sentry ADS-B receiver can do it. You’ll probably want one of those anyway for ADS-B traffic and weather info. That said, redundancy is nice. If the external GPS fails/dies, at least the cellular iPad still has its internal GPS for position info; the WiFi iPad is left completely blind. Cellular service is not required to use the GPS functionality of the cellular-capable iPad.
Agreed, although you can't rely on your iPad based EFB for GPS-based navigation anyway. (the hardware needs to be certified). But it is good for situational awareness (and a tethered iPhone can supply GPS position to the wifi only version, but that is one more point of failure).
I got it the day it came out in the US and used it on my IFR checkride a couple days later!! I used the MyClip Kneeboard and I still have great access to the Apple Pencil for writing things down
Thank you so much for continuing to do what you can during your lockdown. You keep it fun. I use the generation five mini that I bought about three months back. I couldn’t wait for the six because I started flying and needed the EFB. I have an iPad Pro, but it was just too big for the cockpit. I’m going to keep the Generation five for now to let software catch up, like you recommended, as well as let the case manufacturers make the case for it. I spent a good investment in the generation five case, so I got to get my money’s worth before I sell/trade it. I use the Pivot system cases and will wait for the new iPad mini case.
Only reason for larger storage is outside the actual flying, to be able to have music or videos on the move (even offline), some books to read. I would however recommend to have separate devices! One iPad for cockpit use that has NOTHING else, another for media consumption, playing, reading etc. Keep it clean and simple.
The large variety of productivity/entertainment uses for the Mini demonstrates how versatile it can be for so many people. Master of Nun - But Good at a lot of stuff - Fine by me!!! I bought an iPad Mini 2 Cellular 10 years ago. I do not browse with it - I'm an adult - so I use my 14" laptop to browse and an Apple TV for viewing. After 10 years of ownership - I use my Mini almost exclusively when I "TRAVEL" - to do the following (otherwise it sits in a drawer) #1- as a GPS unit in my vehicles - the best GPS ever (70%) That's after over 150K miles of road trips (FYI - lots of pilots use the Mini for realtime in-flight information)- when I need a GPS around town - my iPhone works fine. #2 - as a Sidecar or mirror screen to view video paired with a M2 MBA (25%) #3 - as an eReader (4%) #4 - the odd miscellaneous task (1%) This might change with the pencil. I will likely buy the new Mini 7 when it comes out @ year end. The Mini is simply a great portable high performance device that sits between an iPhone & MBA M2 as a complimentary but not essential device.
Ouch! I just bought an iPad 5 mini (cell) this summer. Like it a lot and I did need it for my schooling in an open gyrocopter. Thanks for your videos - keep them coming.
I'm about to make the leap from paper charts, steam gauges, and a paper note pad - to a full Dynon glass cockpit and electronic flight bag... I resisted for a long time because I was comfortable with the 'old way', the way I learned to fly way back when. But the time has come to make that change, and I've been trying to figure out which iPad was going to be the one. No clue why it took me so long, since I embrace new tech in every other aspect of my life? Maybe I just wanted to keep something in my life old school?
Thanks for this awesome review! I was wondering, with everything flying related installed, how much storage do you have left on the 64GB version? I'm thinking of using this ipad for flying as well as work/studying, and am trying to figure out if the extra storage would be worth it or not.
I went for an M1 11 inch iPad Pro since I use it also for studying and working, so I would benefit from the extra inches. It fits nice on my leg in a DA40.
Thanks for the video. Yeah, I pull out FlightAware when a plane flies by, then go to the registration to see what kind it is and if I know the pilot. I am using a Mini 5 WiFi only for FlyQ (I’m in the U.S.) and have a Mini 4 with cellular as a backup. I use a DIY Stratux for GPS and, more importantly, ADS-B In information. I figure I can use my phone or the backup Mini 4 or my eyes if the Stratux goes out and I need to navigate.
I think your find Oz runways is about six or so versions in front on iOS compare to android so you can get all of the new fancy / exceptionally helpful features sooner
@@Lex_chats ahhh that is good to know. my flat mates both use it and have been begging me to get it as well. Ill look into saving a little bit more for ios then
Stef I use the new iPad Pro 11 inch which I mount on my Bonanza’s yoke - it works perfectly. I find the mini too small so I’ll keep my old mini as a second iPad but hardly use it now. The advantage of the 11 inch is that in portrait mode (which is how I have it mounted) it displays the approach plate in a good size and you don’t need to zoom in
Ik that the mini is better in the cockpit... but for whatever reason I just prefer the regular bigger models, makes it easier and more... idk its just comfortable. If anyone is looking for an efb.. just use whatever is comfortable for you...
Is 64GB really good enough if you just have aviation apps downloaded? Foreflight recommends the highest storage but 256GB sounds a lot and it's way more expensive. I just want to make sure that 64GB is good enough for Foreflight in U.S.
IPAD MINI and AVPLANefb. I've been meaning to try the pencil after seeing this I will. It should be handy for writing a clearance or any notes for engineers etc. Great review, thank you.
I am using the M1 iPad Pro 12.9 & it is perfect! Great size & wouldn’t consider going any smaller. Hopefully Apple launches that new iPad Pro 16” model soon.
iPad mini 4 cellular for gps has worked great for my experience. Definitely feeling a little sluggish and could use a little more speed but my skills over the years have out passed the iPad. I recommend the iPad 4 for new students. Lower cost the entry and the speed won’t effect them yet.
Use an Ipad Pro 10.5” with Avplan EFB. for flight planning before flight. During flight i only reference the ERC or VTC on the Ipad for area frequencies. Everything else i need is already in my SR22G5 Garmin Perspective avionics package. Still use a conventional pen and pre-printed A5 page to capture ATIS, IFR Clearances, Etc.. Would consider using the Ipad and apple pencil with notes feature if i could replicate my printed A5 page layout in Notes.
Currently I have the iPad Pro 11 in and I use ForeFlight. It’s frickin massive in the cockpit and I’ve been resisting the urge to buy a mini till it got the refresh and now I’m really excited haha
Thank you so much for this :D. I didn't know about the GPS being available only with the cellular, glad I watched your video. BTW, do you have a recommended mount for iPad mini 6?
Pretty sweet new iPad! Hopefully we'll be able to see you back in EYZ sometime soon. Hope you're okay! Love your content as well man. I just finished a Cirrus SR22 Australian outback trip in MSFS 2020 lol, of course registered as VH-EYZ! EDIT: Stefan said "ass"? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂
@@StefanDrury do you think you could design up a template on Notes for ATIS, like what RTP have on their notepads (INFO, RWY, WIND, CLD, VIS, TEMP, QNH etc)?
I’ve got the 11 inch iPad Pro as I didn’t want the outdated mini design. It’s not too bad in the cockpit but now that the mini 6 is out I will probably get it as my dedicated EFB once pivot makes a case for it. I don’t really need 2 iPads but this will allow me to get a keyboard case for the 11 inch pro and use it as more of a laptop
Love the exact duration of the video.
7:48
Haha it’s his favorite airplane too!!
It is absolutely essential to mention that only the cell version has the built in GPS! Many ppl have said that an external GPS is recommended for Foreflight but having the internal GPS handy is definitely a plus even if you don’t use cell service at all.
Thanks for the comment 🙏
Yeah that’s why I bought it with the cellular im glad i read the comments lmao
That means that you don't have to insert a sim card for use a flight app?
@@mauricioamado5975 That’s right. You only want to have the internal GPS. You don’t need to use the cell network for it to work.
@@TimoBirnschein Thanks!
The best review ever. Short and straight to the point! Well done!
I am so glad that I am not just a crazy person! Put a smile on my face when he checked flight radar to see what the plane was!
One additional thing to consider: only cellular version offers GPS currently, so one need to add external GPS via Bluetooth. Which then is as expensive as buying cellular directly. Only advantage is that modern external devices also support Glonass & Galileo which leads to even more precise positions (Might not be necessary even in the pattern though… 😃)
Indeed, I actually wouldn't even consider or recommend a wifi only model for it's lack of gps. Even if you do happen to have an external unit, it's alwasy nice to have the redundancy and ease of use of a built in gps
I believe even the internal GPS is multi-constellation.
The nice thing about an external GPS, if you get a Stratux or Stratus or similar, is the ADS-B in. That’s how you’ll see where the other planes are that you can’t literally see, get the weather inflight, etc. Of course, having an internal GPS is a nice backup, but the external with ADS-B In is critical (IMHO).
@Jannik Weichert please how do you add external GPS via Bluetooth because I find it difficult using Air navigation pro app on my mini 5 wifi model and I happen to have a 12 pro max do I just connect my Bluetooth just asking please
Hi, could you please help me with something? Does this iPad need the SIM or the network to use the GPS or is it independent?
Thank you so much for this!
I’m a private pilot, studying IFR ground. I don’t have an ipad but have always been curious about flying with one.
My friend recommended the mini wifi only because he recommends an external gps, apple pencil and a yoke mount.
I was worried it would be too small and the charts would be hard to read but it looked pretty clear to me when you showed them in the video.
I think I’ll buy this one.
Thank you!
Length of the video 7:47 🤔
Love this review!
Dude I really hope you’re ok and doing well. Hope lockdown ends soon and I hope to see you back in the air! Great video and best wishes from me over in the UK. John
I use the IPad 5 and love it for my flying. I use it connected to the cockpit dashboard.
I've been looking for an iPad mini review from a pilot's perspective, and this was it! I've never used an iPad as an EFB before, what apps (preferably free) would you suggest?
Garmin pilot and foreflight are essentials for me
Thanks for the review. Debating the upgrade path for my iPad Air2 :) I link with Stratux for GPS and ADS-B weather.
Unfortunately I needed an iPad mini this summer before the 6 released so I got the mini 5.
Hey Stef,
I’ve recently updated to a mini 5 with Cellular, importantly GPS is built in on cellular versions.
I alternate between GP and OZRUNWAYS, and have a GDL90 FOR GP and Ping for OZ for ADSB In.
It also adds messaging with my Garmin Inreach and I will add a flightstream 510 to my GTN650 for updates
It’s on a RAM mount on my yoke
I previously had a IPad Pro. And am really happy with the new setup.
Does the external Ping + OzRunways give all ADSB traffic, or just the OzRunways users? Cheers
Yes, the device I have been waiting for and the video I have been waiting for! I can't wait to get one been holding out for it.
When you are in the locked screen, you can just tap on the screen with the pencil to open the notes app. Swipe from the bottom right is actually meant for using notes while you are on another app.
Got this ipad the day it came out and am absolutely in love with it. FYI Step, the V6 has 4gb not 3
Wifi or cellular?
@@ShadowRap-y5l just the WiFi version. If I need cellular when flying I will just hotspot the ipad from my phone
But the cellular model has GPS.. felt it might be useful
I made the mistake of getting 64GB on my mini5. Regretted it from day one. I couldn’t update my ForeFlight charts before the expiration date because it didn’t have enough space. Went 256 on my mini6. The Mini6 battery life is not quite as good as 5. My theory is the constant charging of the pencil2 is a factor, which I’ve experienced on my Pro with the pencil2. Definitely get cellular version.
Bare mini6 doesn't have the GPS on it, does it? In the cockpit of most GA airplanes it may be pointless to have it. Cellular is a must.
Yes I understand GPS only comes with the cellular iPad models. Important to know.
Affirmative, any pilot who wants GPS should get the cellular version.
Agreed. For pilots the Cellular is a must for the GPS. In my opinion an EFB without GPS doesn't make sense and I don't want to deal with an external GPS Receiver in the plane.
This.
There's no need to have built-in GPS if you have an external ADS-B receiver like a Stratus or Stratux. In fact, I would never rely solely on the iPad's GPS over an external ADS-B receiver because you're not going to get traffic with it, which is really the most important thing.
Haha. You do the Flightradar24 thing too?
I've been using the iPad mini 5 since I got out of flight school (not allowed to use EFBs) and I think it just makes flying simpler and safer in many respects. Already ordered the mini 6 (will keep 2 ipads one for backup) and now I'm just waiting for us to be allowed flying again!
Yeah as a Private Pilot I can't imagine flying without the iPad now to be honest. Having access to every map and chart I could possibly need on one device rather than carrying stacks of paper is not only convenient it's a safety benefit in my opinion.
Regulations are changing as of 2nd December regarding paper charts and efb's
@@StjepanNikolic Just briefly looking at the index of the Part 91 Plain English Guide there isn't much on the topic, could you give a reference? Trying to not read too much of the new stuff just yet before sitting ATPL Air Law and getting new and old regs mixed up😂
Hi, could you please help me with something? Does this iPad need the SIM or the network to use the GPS or is it independent?
@@yesitasnow it doesn't need the sim for GPS but I believe it can acquire a signal more quickly if it has network access. I have a backup iPad mini 5 with no SIM (but SIM model) and no issues with GPS
I use the iPad mini 6 when I fly and love it. I got the cellular after dealing with a 3rd party gps on a previous iPad. One less thing to make sure is charged and ready to go in the flight bag makes life easy.
Hi, could you please help me with something? Does this iPad need the SIM or the network to use the GPS or is it independent?
Thanks for the video. I'm working on a project to adopt iPads for agricultural use. I'd be a nice replacement for old-fashioned tractor screens farmers use now. Your video gives me a bit of evidence that farmers will love that too.
I came here to know if I should go with 64gb or 256gb. I would’ve preferred 128, but I plan to strictly use this for flying. Looks like I’m going to save some money and go with the mini 64gb!
Thanks!
I got back into aviation this summer after a multi-year layoff. Knowing that a new mini was coming I've just been using my iPhone 8 and Foreflight. It's not as bad as you might think. But my mini 6 is on order and I should have it in a couple of weeks. Went for the bigger memory and with gps/cellular but not with the pencil. I figured I'd wait and see if I really need the pencil first.
How has the setup been? Do you use a extra Sim for the GPS?
Thanks for the review Stef. I did search yesterday for a pilot review of the new iPad mini to no avail.
Hopefully now this video comes top of that search result :)
I like Garmin pilot mainly because I'm not stuck to using only one platform for my EFB like with ForeFlight.
Just wanted to point out, if the iPads screen is off, all you have to do is start writing. You don’t need to swipe from the edge. The edge swipe with the pen is for the quick note when you’re already using the iPad and want to take a quick note. 👍🏽
As others have said, you need the cellular version to get the in-built GPS. Also, you must have a back-up, either another device or paper back-up. Cheers.
For private flying (in Australia), the iPad alone is sufficient. The requirement is to carry maps & charts applicable to the route being flown (plus alternates) and readily accessible. This means your iPad must be charged, within reach and everything downloaded into Settings → Downloads before flight. If you are flying under a company AOC, then additional legislation applies which includes backups etc.
do you need the cellular version if you have an ADS-B?
@@Giorgio_Rutto not if the ADS-B connects to the ipad via Bluetooth or wifi. Such as the Stratus 3 (I have one of these and they are awesome)
@@PilotBusaKaine maybe we need to be country-specific because in Australia you must have a back-up. Cheers.
@@FranksMSFlightSimulator that not correct, my comment was for Australia, we don’t need a backup, people misread / misunderstand that requirement for AOC requirements.
Great overview Stef! Mine came yesterday after upgrading from a mini 1 (yes 1..) and already loving it, can’t wait to see how it goes in the cockpit (and your videos when we’re able to fly again). I agree about the software, hopefully Apple can iron the bugs out soon and maybe stretch out the UI to better fit the mini. Quick tip for quick notes, if the screen is off then you can just tap and hold the pencil anywhere on the screen to start writing, not just from the corner (but the corner will work in apps too) in case it is a bit turbulent. Hopefully you can get back up in EYZ soon :)
Thanks for the video! I currently use a regular iPad and wondered how readable PDFs (navlogs, POH, etc) are on the new Mini without having to zoom in?
Having the same thoughts here.
where I don't like the scratch pad style note taking is you don't have a record of all the notes you made during the flight. I feel it is good airmanship to keep all flight notes, clearances, frequencies etc - just in case they are needed post flight, for what ever reason...
Great videos Stefan - keep them rolling....
3:20 absolutely right!!
you might want to keep some distance to the magnetic compass..
I’m from the states and I’m on my PPL cert at the moment and recently got a knee strap for my 10.2 inch iPad. It was so bulky that i bought a different case and decided to not use the strap anymore as it interfered with the controls. I’ve definitely been looking at the mini ever since that happened
Woah you managed to get it early!
Yeah I ordered on the day of release. I wanted to share what it's like with everyone early as I know there will be a lot of interest in the travel community.
You always want the cellular version. The wi-fi only version of ipads don't have a GPS. You always want a GPS.
If you have the WiFi version, will an EFB just not show your position?
@@RezeeVL Yeah, I believe it basically degrades to an electronic paper map.
You’ll need an external GPS source for position info on a WiFi iPad. Something like a Stratus or Sentry ADS-B receiver can do it. You’ll probably want one of those anyway for ADS-B traffic and weather info. That said, redundancy is nice. If the external GPS fails/dies, at least the cellular iPad still has its internal GPS for position info; the WiFi iPad is left completely blind.
Cellular service is not required to use the GPS functionality of the cellular-capable iPad.
Agreed, although you can't rely on your iPad based EFB for GPS-based navigation anyway. (the hardware needs to be certified). But it is good for situational awareness (and a tethered iPhone can supply GPS position to the wifi only version, but that is one more point of failure).
I got it the day it came out in the US and used it on my IFR checkride a couple days later!! I used the MyClip Kneeboard and I still have great access to the Apple Pencil for writing things down
Thank you so much for continuing to do what you can during your lockdown. You keep it fun. I use the generation five mini that I bought about three months back. I couldn’t wait for the six because I started flying and needed the EFB. I have an iPad Pro, but it was just too big for the cockpit. I’m going to keep the Generation five for now to let software catch up, like you recommended, as well as let the case manufacturers make the case for it. I spent a good investment in the generation five case, so I got to get my money’s worth before I sell/trade it. I use the Pivot system cases and will wait for the new iPad mini case.
Oh SNAP!! Mine arrived last week too. Agree!!!
Only reason for larger storage is outside the actual flying, to be able to have music or videos on the move (even offline), some books to read.
I would however recommend to have separate devices! One iPad for cockpit use that has NOTHING else, another for media consumption, playing, reading etc. Keep it clean and simple.
Can you please do an update on which apps are the best and accessories
3:17 Hahaha, that’s me, plane goes over, grab the phone, Flightradar to find out what it is…… it’s an addiction.
Not a pilot but I have the iPad Mini 5 (Wi-Fi only) and use a Logitech pencil. Works fine. I use the iPad Mini 5 for flying my drone. All I need.
Absolutely awesome review, entertaining and informative - thanks heaps!
The large variety of productivity/entertainment uses for the Mini demonstrates how versatile it can be for so many people. Master of Nun - But Good at a lot of stuff - Fine by me!!!
I bought an iPad Mini 2 Cellular 10 years ago. I do not browse with it - I'm an adult - so I use my 14" laptop to browse and an Apple TV for viewing.
After 10 years of ownership - I use my Mini almost exclusively when I "TRAVEL" - to do the following (otherwise it sits in a drawer)
#1- as a GPS unit in my vehicles - the best GPS ever (70%) That's after over 150K miles of road trips (FYI - lots of pilots use the Mini for realtime in-flight information)- when I need a GPS around town - my iPhone works fine.
#2 - as a Sidecar or mirror screen to view video paired with a M2 MBA (25%)
#3 - as an eReader (4%)
#4 - the odd miscellaneous task (1%) This might change with the pencil.
I will likely buy the new Mini 7 when it comes out @ year end. The Mini is simply a great portable high performance device that sits between an iPhone & MBA M2 as a complimentary but not essential device.
Ouch! I just bought an iPad 5 mini (cell) this summer. Like it a lot and I did need it for my schooling in an open gyrocopter. Thanks for your videos - keep them coming.
Ipad mini 4 + FlightPlanGO with an ipad mini 2 as backup. Both the WIFI+Cellular versions. Stratux for ADSB in.
I'm about to make the leap from paper charts, steam gauges, and a paper note pad - to a full Dynon glass cockpit and electronic flight bag... I resisted for a long time because I was comfortable with the 'old way', the way I learned to fly way back when. But the time has come to make that change, and I've been trying to figure out which iPad was going to be the one.
No clue why it took me so long, since I embrace new tech in every other aspect of my life? Maybe I just wanted to keep something in my life old school?
I am curious if the cellular is worth adding on if you have a decent hotspot.
+ luxury yacht....id like to go for this last option!
Thanks for this awesome review!
I was wondering, with everything flying related installed, how much storage do you have left on the 64GB version?
I'm thinking of using this ipad for flying as well as work/studying, and am trying to figure out if the extra storage would be worth it or not.
I am in the same boat!
I am now in the same situation, got any advice?
I went for an M1 11 inch iPad Pro since I use it also for studying and working, so I would benefit from the extra inches. It fits nice on my leg in a DA40.
Which colour is best for cockpit, space grey or silver? Thinking reflection of heat here...
Thanks for the video. Yeah, I pull out FlightAware when a plane flies by, then go to the registration to see what kind it is and if I know the pilot.
I am using a Mini 5 WiFi only for FlyQ (I’m in the U.S.) and have a Mini 4 with cellular as a backup. I use a DIY Stratux for GPS and, more importantly, ADS-B In information. I figure I can use my phone or the backup Mini 4 or my eyes if the Stratux goes out and I need to navigate.
About to do my xc flight test for the NZ CPL. Got 50 hours PIC and looking at either a S6 lite tablet or this for Oz Runways
I think your find Oz runways is about six or so versions in front on iOS compare to android so you can get all of the new fancy / exceptionally helpful features sooner
six version ≈ 1.5y
@@Lex_chats ahhh that is good to know. my flat mates both use it and have been begging me to get it as well. Ill look into saving a little bit more for ios then
Stef I use the new iPad Pro 11 inch which I mount on my Bonanza’s yoke - it works perfectly. I find the mini too small so I’ll keep my old mini as a second iPad but hardly use it now. The advantage of the 11 inch is that in portrait mode (which is how I have it mounted) it displays the approach plate in a good size and you don’t need to zoom in
PLEASE REVIEW THE SAMSUNG TAB ACTIVE 3 AS AN EFB.
Thanks tones for the review👍, I was thinking about buying one to upgrade from pen and paper.
I use the iPad Air 4 which has the same Apple Pencil 2. And I had no idea I could swipe up to get the note app to open!
Thanks for not subjecting us to the top-knot! I've got the mini 5 cellular - would love to upgrade, but I think I'll wait a bit.
Where do we find an aviation mount? Suction mounts etc. don't seem to be available for the 6
Ik that the mini is better in the cockpit... but for whatever reason I just prefer the regular bigger models, makes it easier and more... idk its just comfortable. If anyone is looking for an efb.. just use whatever is comfortable for you...
What about reading it in a sunny cockpit? 500 Nits is not that much brightness???
indeed, sticking with my 5 for a while, it still runs great with all my EFB stuff.
It's a pretty perfect size in the gliders too!
I have been waiting for this video since the announcement
Nice review Stef, though i wonder how the equivalent in opposition would do against this one ?? Hope to see you flying soon. Thanks mate
Is 64GB really good enough if you just have aviation apps downloaded? Foreflight recommends the highest storage but 256GB sounds a lot and it's way more expensive. I just want to make sure that 64GB is good enough for Foreflight in U.S.
Skydemon with an Android tablet - looking to get forflight on a Mini in the future. But it´s soooo expeeeensive!
How did you make the quick swipe full screen upon swiping?
Hi ?! If you compare iPad Air M1 and iPad mini, do you still go with the mini version? Thank you
if the screen if off you can just tap on it with the apple pencil to take a note I think, no need to swipe from the corner
No accessories like kneeboard and others holders for iPad mini 6 yet
IPAD MINI and AVPLANefb. I've been meaning to try the pencil after seeing this I will. It should be handy for writing a clearance or any notes for engineers etc. Great review, thank you.
I am using the M1 iPad Pro 12.9 & it is perfect! Great size & wouldn’t consider going any smaller. Hopefully Apple launches that new iPad Pro 16” model soon.
Another great video Stef! Next video you’ll have to rock the man bun!😂
Ha, give it a couple of weeks and the bun will be back.
what other accessories you are getting? like which kneestrap/kneeboard and screen protector?
currently using this for my flight training. Definitely recommend! ^_^
iPad mini 4 cellular for gps has worked great for my experience. Definitely feeling a little sluggish and could use a little more speed but my skills over the years have out passed the iPad. I recommend the iPad 4 for new students. Lower cost the entry and the speed won’t effect them yet.
Use an Ipad Pro 10.5” with Avplan EFB. for flight planning before flight. During flight i only reference the ERC or VTC on the Ipad for area frequencies. Everything else i need is already in my SR22G5 Garmin Perspective avionics package. Still use a conventional pen and pre-printed A5 page to capture ATIS, IFR Clearances, Etc.. Would consider using the Ipad and apple pencil with notes feature if i could replicate my printed A5 page layout in Notes.
Thank you for this.
Love the vid stef keep up the great work
Thanks Lachlan.
Currently I have the iPad Pro 11 in and I use ForeFlight. It’s frickin massive in the cockpit and I’ve been resisting the urge to buy a mini till it got the refresh and now I’m really excited haha
Nice video. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this :D. I didn't know about the GPS being available only with the cellular, glad I watched your video. BTW, do you have a recommended mount for iPad mini 6?
Do you recommend Wi-Fi only or one with cell
I've just ordered it and your video popped...😀
Awesome, hope the review helped. Enjoy your new iPad.
What are you going to do with your old iPad mini??
Thank you very much for sharing your great video with us.
Are there any inexpensive gps receivers out there to support a wifi ipad?
I'm soon to be a private pilot I am wondering should I get the pen with the iPad mini aswell. Is it more helpful?
a question stefan the iPad has to be Wi-Fi + Cellular or only wifi
which one do you recommend for pilot 👨🏻✈️
Is it deliberate that the length of this video is at 7:47?
Waiting for the RAM mount that fits V6 to come out.
Pretty sweet new iPad! Hopefully we'll be able to see you back in EYZ sometime soon. Hope you're okay!
Love your content as well man. I just finished a Cirrus SR22 Australian outback trip in MSFS 2020 lol, of course registered as VH-EYZ!
EDIT: Stefan said "ass"? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂
Thanks Jack, I'm keen to get back in the air and get travelling again soon too. Thanks for watching.
Hi, could you please help me with something? Does this iPad need the SIM or the network to use the GPS or is it independent?
Was thinking about buying one, now I’m definitely sold on it!
Enjoy it, thanks fpr watching Julian.
@@StefanDrury do you think you could design up a template on Notes for ATIS, like what RTP have on their notepads (INFO, RWY, WIND, CLD, VIS, TEMP, QNH etc)?
Do you know of a specific knee board that this mini 6 works with?
Nicely done, Steph
Thanks Will.
Love your videos (and your long hair!)
I’ve got the 11 inch iPad Pro as I didn’t want the outdated mini design. It’s not too bad in the cockpit but now that the mini 6 is out I will probably get it as my dedicated EFB once pivot makes a case for it. I don’t really need 2 iPads but this will allow me to get a keyboard case for the 11 inch pro and use it as more of a laptop