How Jonny Greenwood was Influenced by Penderecki

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @ListeningIn
    @ListeningIn  3 года назад +117

    This video was made in collaboration with David Bennett Piano! Take a look at David's video analysing Radiohead's 'Karma Police' here: ruclips.net/video/IgjmSoSmaoc/видео.html

    • @krzysztofkalinski2616
      @krzysztofkalinski2616 3 года назад +3

      Hello! As a Pole I'm very satisfied and astonished that Jonny compose such a very complex music inspired by classic music composed by Penderecki. Of course all of Radiohead music is very complex, comparing to the others famous rock bands. It reminds me by the way the music composed by Red Hot Chili Peppers band and this one created by John Frusciante (I mean his solo electronic music and this one created as Trickfinger project). I'm just curious if you could be inspired to make some material about this topic. Although his music is very different from RHCP one.

    • @dbkarp
      @dbkarp 3 года назад +2

      ​@@krzysztofkalinski2616 not sure it's fair to call rdhd more "complex" than other bands. prog rock for example is much more complex and virtuousic. complex doesn't mean good. imho what makes rdhd good is their ability to combine aspects of many music styles into the song format. similar to the beatles more than anything.

    • @krzysztofkalinski2616
      @krzysztofkalinski2616 3 года назад +2

      @@dbkarp Yes I'm not a musican so you must forgive me. 😱 Maybe I should use other words to appreciate their music.

  • @someonesaccountforwritingn9894
    @someonesaccountforwritingn9894 2 года назад +134

    The reason Jonny is so introverted and quiet is because all of his personality and soul goes into his arrangements

    • @ba_charles
      @ba_charles 6 месяцев назад +3

      no, it's because he's too busy biting on actual geniuses

  • @DavidBennettPiano
    @DavidBennettPiano 3 года назад +472

    Great video! It was lovely to work with you!

    • @ListeningIn
      @ListeningIn  3 года назад +27

      Thanks David - it was great working with you too!

    • @Trucoto
      @Trucoto 3 года назад +1

      Thank you, David, it was a really interesting video, I learned a lot and helped me appreciate Jonny even more.

    • @irishhungrydwarf9015
      @irishhungrydwarf9015 3 года назад

      You make great videos

    • @AidanXavier1
      @AidanXavier1 3 года назад

      Somehow just seeing the title I knew you were going to have something to do with this

    • @SortaSpooby
      @SortaSpooby 8 месяцев назад +1

      no

  • @gpeddino
    @gpeddino 3 года назад +319

    Radiohead's "A Moon Shaped Pool" (2016) really saw Jonny flexing those string arrangements. The ending of "Ful Stop" features glissandi that are almost identical to a passage from "Polymorphia". "Tinker Tailor..." is pure Messiaen with those ondes guiding the orchestra. And "Burn The Witch" features violins played with guitar plectrums (a technique Jonny also used in "Popcorn Superhet Receiver", a decade earlier).

    • @phillyblunt138
      @phillyblunt138 3 года назад +10

      I really love the strings in Burn The Witch

    • @actualalpaca18
      @actualalpaca18 3 года назад +6

      one of my favorite radiohead albums, for this exact reason :D

    • @fakecubed
      @fakecubed 2 месяца назад +2

      After A Moon Shaped Pool, if Radiohead puts out any more albums, I am just praying Jonny goes wild with the strings.

  • @marshallgrey2159
    @marshallgrey2159 3 года назад +454

    turns out I'm more of a Johnny Greenwood fan than a radiohead

    • @TalkAsSoftAsChalk
      @TalkAsSoftAsChalk 3 года назад +58

      Jonny was the reason I gave Radiohead a shot because I really loved his work with PTA. Now I can safely say I love both equally. They are a fantastic band.

    • @BloodyArmourKnight
      @BloodyArmourKnight 3 года назад +13

      I love both, but i think Greenwood"s work is very different than Radiohead's work. It is more complex i think, and it conveys a catalog of emotions.

    • @andrewfroese1067
      @andrewfroese1067 3 года назад +9

      Same. Ever since listening to Bodysong, I knew how heavily Johnny was orchestrating the sounds of Radiohead, and those were the sounds that kept me coming back.

    • @BlankRami
      @BlankRami 3 года назад

      Yes i have outgrown radiohead but not jonny

    • @supes616
      @supes616 3 года назад +7

      I feel the same way about John Frusciante and the Red Hot Chili Peppers lol

  • @darthcoward
    @darthcoward 3 года назад +80

    I always loved Weird Fishes / Arpeggi because it turned the "boring" arpeggios I used to practice on the piano into something vibrant and textured, no wonder why!

  • @chrisrussell5498
    @chrisrussell5498 3 года назад +35

    Awsome. Johnny is most definitely genius. I love his almost childlike curiosity.

  • @dc78
    @dc78 3 года назад +121

    I cant believe the production quality and the depth of analysis that comes from your channel. the amount of time, effort and care for the craft is so deeply appreciated. thank you for the work that you do

    • @ListeningIn
      @ListeningIn  3 года назад +13

      Thank you so much Daryl. This means a huge amount to me. The videos do take a long time, but I love doing them and I’m so pleased your enjoying watching.

  • @ExileOnDaytonStreet
    @ExileOnDaytonStreet 3 года назад +29

    The polyrhythm and and overlapping harmonies in Weird Fishes are certainly appreciated (it's one of Radiohead's most popular songs, I believe), but I don't know that we really state explicitly enough how cool it is that something as simple as having those two arpeggiated sequences played in different times (triplets vs. quarter notes) creates such a fluid sound. As if the driving harmony behind the song is bouncing around on the waves of the ocean.
    It's a concept the band explored further in the looped samples of Bloom (especially in that orchestral arrangement they did for BBC, but also comes to the forefront on all sorts of live takes of the song, like Thom's solo piano version we can find on youtube), and its absolutely fascinating. It puts me in a trance not unlike some shoegazing kind of music, but with a more natural, organic feel.
    But then on Weird Fishes, Jonny does that absolutely bonkers looped-and-played-backwards solo in the coda... and oh wow, I can only imagine how someone comes up with that part. It's genius.

    • @marcofranco42
      @marcofranco42 3 года назад +2

      awesome text man, really made me think a lot about what it is been done inside that music.

  • @peterleventis
    @peterleventis 3 года назад +75

    I came based on David Bennett Piano's recommendation. Excellent!

  • @TheHeavylord666
    @TheHeavylord666 3 года назад +91

    Pretty surprised you didn't mention Burn the Witch from AMSP! I think you can hear Penderecki's influence on this song quite well.
    Amazing video!

  • @OcatvioMeidna
    @OcatvioMeidna 2 года назад +6

    THIS VIDEO IS GOLD.

  • @ThomSonnyYeah
    @ThomSonnyYeah Год назад +8

    You could place Jonny into any band and he would completely transform it. His contributions are invaluable, Radiohead are so lucky to have him.

  • @deathchips926
    @deathchips926 2 года назад +4

    Hmm, I always thought the dissonant drone in How To Disappear was inspired by Scott Walker's "It's Raining Today". Interesting!

  • @pendulumstalker
    @pendulumstalker 3 года назад +16

    Incredible. Thank you for this. Greenwood is the reason I’m in music school now.

  • @guilhermeviegas6139
    @guilhermeviegas6139 3 года назад +14

    MOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE VIDEOS ABOUT THIS KIND OF MUSIC

  • @CSound
    @CSound 3 года назад +10

    From a huge Radiohead and Jonny Greenwood fan : THANK YOU SO MUCH ! This is the best video i've ever seen about Jonny's music. Man, congratulations, your video just blew me away. You have really impressive editing skills ! You've got a new subscriber and a new fan from France. Peace and keep "Radioheading" the world :) Lio

  • @TheStrightEdge
    @TheStrightEdge 3 года назад +7

    It is also quite interesting to see Jonny find new ways to produce different sounds from the instruments he plays live with Radiohead. e.g. the way he uses a string bow to play the guitar when they perform Pyramid song live.

  • @briandenzer
    @briandenzer 3 года назад +23

    Extraordinary. Ten years I hosted a modern classical show, but I never came close to this kind of insight into the connection between Penderecki and Johnny Greenwood. Excellent. I am in debt to the producer for enriching my appreciation.

  • @nothingman2976
    @nothingman2976 2 года назад +1

    This was so satisfying and begs closer attention and exploration

  • @barrington6151
    @barrington6151 3 года назад +8

    also his dissonant string section on frank ocean's "seigfreid" !!

  • @wadsmitter511
    @wadsmitter511 3 года назад +7

    13:48 I would love more videos on Jonny Greenwood! Your videos are second to none when it comes to this kind of analysis

  • @torinoscaletunes
    @torinoscaletunes 3 года назад +4

    Genius everywhere you look. Many thanks for this.

  • @hebehall
    @hebehall 3 года назад +7

    I’m blown away by your wonderful analysis. I knew he was good, but this is a whole new level of appreciation for a musical master.

  • @RobPanico
    @RobPanico 3 года назад +3

    There's also a lot of Bartok in "There Will Be Blood" Such a seminal work of film scoring, cannot wait to see what else he develops for score/concert hall over the coming years

  • @vickhs
    @vickhs 3 года назад +79

    I know the Oscars aren't really a measurement of the quality of an artist's work and Jonny certainly doesn't need one BUT. I lowkey wish the Academy would stop snubbing his scores all the time. Yeah, There Will Be Blood wasn't eligible because of technical criteria but its exclusion left a bitter taste in many people's mouths. And as much as I liked Desplat's score for The Shape of Water, Phantom Thread was just something else!

    • @THE.N1KO
      @THE.N1KO 3 года назад +6

      I've been listening the score from Phantom Thread for a while now. And it is without a doubt my favourite. Last night I watched The Master for the first time and again his music transports me into that world and characters mind. I love You Were Never Really Here Score too. I think that he is an artist with great passion. I want to hear right now his soundtrack for the upcoming "Spencer". And if some day Paul Thomas Anderson decides to make a horror film, well, Greenwood could be awesome un that way.

    • @THE.N1KO
      @THE.N1KO 3 года назад +2

      And the Oscars are a joke by now. I can feel what you say.

    • @jackallenproductions
      @jackallenproductions 3 года назад +6

      @@THE.N1KO The Master is so beautifully done all around. That film is a masterwork. One of the few films where I immediately went on to hunt down a vinyl of the score.

    • @jackallenproductions
      @jackallenproductions 3 года назад

      Do you happen to know the technical criteria it violated?

    • @THE.N1KO
      @THE.N1KO 3 года назад +2

      @@jackallenproductions I don't know that. Tell me more. And yeah, even today I listened some songs from the Phantom Thread score. I have experienced a lot of shocking things these times and I can say that his music save me in every way.

  • @pkoziolek1
    @pkoziolek1 3 года назад +6

    wow, this essay allowed me to distinguish Greenwood's influence on Radiohead's sound much more than I expected, the pizzicato sounds soooo similar to 'Burn the Witch' and the similarity is not an accident, great vid!

  • @audiochris78
    @audiochris78 2 года назад +2

    Great video! I must add the outro of Blow Out is mainly Ed O’Brien, at least live it is.

  • @textnumbers22
    @textnumbers22 3 года назад +5

    One interesting thing about this is it's the case of seperate influences merging because a lot these ideas are also present in a lot of 80s indie rock, especially Sonic Youth (Who've been cited as an influence by Radiohead multiple times and are also heavily influenced by Penderecki), you can find it in basically all the interludes of Bad Moon Rising, expressway to yr skull and Silver Rocket

  • @AjayJayanthi
    @AjayJayanthi 3 года назад +3

    This is so well executed! Jonny Greenwood is, of course, absolutely a pleasure to listen to but I'd like to take a minute to thank you for this video.

  • @kl7985
    @kl7985 3 года назад +1

    THIS is entirely the reason for RUclips... I am eternally grateful for your content. So informative.... Thank you sir!

  • @tzing2589
    @tzing2589 3 года назад +1

    This is one of the best videos I have seen in a very long time.

  • @james.a.delancey
    @james.a.delancey 3 года назад +2

    That was great! Thank you much, you inspired me to look into Penderecki when I’ll be finishing my first feature ☺️

  • @kamilkopacewicz8414
    @kamilkopacewicz8414 2 года назад +1

    I've been at that Penderecki's concert at Open'er. There was fog everywhere, clouding the festival space, it was unearthly. Avantgarde music at a pop-rock festival, amazing experience.

  • @JasonBhoy7
    @JasonBhoy7 2 года назад +1

    hes trying to hold the power of his brain inside his head, everyday a struggle for Jonny Greenwood

  • @darklingeraeld-ridge7946
    @darklingeraeld-ridge7946 Год назад

    Fascinating and inspiring (in altogether different medium) - thank you.

  • @steadyrhythms9571
    @steadyrhythms9571 3 года назад +26

    penderecki was such a great composer. threnody for the victims of Hiroshima was a life changing listen.

  • @GIBKEL
    @GIBKEL 3 года назад +3

    Eye opening and maybe it explains my attraction to his music and the subliminal nature that keeps pulling at me....the sound of nature.

  • @4Pssf2w
    @4Pssf2w 3 года назад +3

    This is an incredible video essay, well done, absolutely well done. It flows so well and has a coherent and rational thesis which is supported very nicely. Cheers. Grats on the collab with David, it brought me here.

  • @saolairde396
    @saolairde396 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant 🤩 thank you 🙏

  • @DavidHernandez-jk4wb
    @DavidHernandez-jk4wb 3 года назад +4

    my dad’s orchestra was conducted by penderecki in the 90’s. interesting man!

  • @Utorak007
    @Utorak007 2 года назад

    Amazing video.

  • @AndyChamberlainMusic
    @AndyChamberlainMusic 3 года назад +5

    in researching for an essay on dissonance, Penderecki has been very interesting
    super cool to see him here!

  • @JBDazen
    @JBDazen 7 месяцев назад

    From the time I first heard Blow Out, I was hooked. I love those explosions of sound. He carried it right through to this year's Under Our Pillows. So great to immerse yourself into in a live show.

  • @idgieoh
    @idgieoh 3 года назад +1

    Here from @David Bennett Piano . WOW 🙌.
    Thank you & cheers from Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦🎼🎶

  • @miladeskandari7
    @miladeskandari7 3 года назад +7

    I don't know why but Penderecki's music makes me calm and helps me sleep easier

    • @alessandrob700
      @alessandrob700 3 года назад +6

      Same. It is eerie yet somehow familiar, as if it resonated with a hidden part of the brain. As if it was the result of a dream

  • @elijahstewart3231
    @elijahstewart3231 3 года назад +24

    omg the title alone pulled me in

    • @sveinungnygaard1505
      @sveinungnygaard1505 3 года назад +3

      How can anyone not click on a video about both Radiohead and Penderecki?

  • @pdzombie1906
    @pdzombie1906 3 года назад +15

    NIN and Radiohead are some of my favorite artists, it's no surprise they're having a film scoring career on the side... Great video! Thanx!!!!👍🏻

    • @StopmotionStudios13
      @StopmotionStudios13 2 месяца назад

      Heujjj same bro!

    • @StopmotionStudios13
      @StopmotionStudios13 2 месяца назад

      NiN btw also plays around with microtones a lot. But with more with synths instead of strings

  • @dlphinzwlazerz978
    @dlphinzwlazerz978 3 года назад +2

    This was very well done & enlightening, thank you so much for putting these pieces together!

  • @acevaptsarov8410
    @acevaptsarov8410 Год назад

    Such a great video! Thank you!!

  • @manners316
    @manners316 Месяц назад

    Incredible musician and artistic evolution - fascinating video, great work.

  • @evanozaroff4742
    @evanozaroff4742 3 года назад +1

    This was such an excellent video

  • @arielkantor1081
    @arielkantor1081 3 года назад +1

    So interesting. Thanks so much!

  • @diondredunigan5282
    @diondredunigan5282 3 года назад +2

    What the hell why does this have no views? This is fantastic.

  • @ender1986
    @ender1986 3 года назад +16

    Listening in - David Bennet - Middle 8
    The Radiohead Trios🔥

    • @hello-f-holes
      @hello-f-holes 3 года назад +1

      Thanks. Im going to check out Middle 8.👍

    • @alex11v3
      @alex11v3 3 года назад +1

      Middle 8 only talks about indie rock/pop overrated music.

    • @arturobelano6243
      @arturobelano6243 3 года назад +3

      Joe Edelman

    • @hello-f-holes
      @hello-f-holes 3 года назад +1

      @@arturobelano6243 I wonder why i forgot to mention him. Thank you. There is also another one doing covers and tutorial of RH songs on acoustic guitar.

    • @hello-f-holes
      @hello-f-holes 3 года назад +2

      @@arturobelano6243 WARRENMUSIC. He is amazing.

  • @HarDiMonPetit
    @HarDiMonPetit 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video: thanks! It's so cheering to see this lively dialog between different streams in music! Another example but in the reverse direction can be heard in Fausto Romitelli's beautiful music.

  • @lucaccb
    @lucaccb 3 года назад +2

    this is the first time i have ever heard jonnys voice

  • @colinaiken
    @colinaiken 3 года назад +2

    Sent by David Bennett. Well worth the visit.

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano 3 года назад +1

      Hi Colin! Thanks for checking out Listening In

  • @gabrielagoni8131
    @gabrielagoni8131 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video!! As a hardcore Jonny Greenwood fan, I really appreciate this. Still I have to say, I was waiting for Horror Vacui, but I get it might have been redundant to talk about it after all your amazing analysis of his previous work.

  • @AJB2226
    @AJB2226 3 года назад +2

    Wonderful video! Wish I had more friends I could share this with, you clearly know what you’re talking about and it was a great watch.

    • @ListeningIn
      @ListeningIn  3 года назад +2

      Thank you! Well even if you share it with one friend, that would be lovely.

  • @BLANCOYNEGROFILMS
    @BLANCOYNEGROFILMS 3 года назад +1

    Oh god what a fantastic video!

  • @seanlock688
    @seanlock688 3 года назад +1

    Very enjoyable and informative video, thank you kindly. Inspires me to further explore all these various influences and learn more about music.

  • @Vickyeverythingelsewastaken
    @Vickyeverythingelsewastaken 3 года назад +1

    Oh Boy, looks like I have a new channel to binge!

  • @liquidsolids9415
    @liquidsolids9415 3 года назад +2

    This was really cool. Thanks for introducing me to this music - I’d never heard it before (except for all the Radiohead stuff, of course!) Well done. Keep up the great work!

  • @CarlosPerez-jq2gc
    @CarlosPerez-jq2gc 2 года назад +1

    How to disappear completely is no doubt the epitome of strings and you could just feel the emotion in it

  • @DuncanCartersayshello
    @DuncanCartersayshello 3 года назад +2

    fantastic as ever - love your longer videos and that your channel is really starting to grow! I was in Poland for the Penderecki x Greenwood set at Open'er festival and the atmosphere created by their pieces performed sequentially combined with the huge space and fog was really something else! Thank you for reminding me

  • @MsJocelynC
    @MsJocelynC 3 года назад

    In love with this video. Thank you for sharing. And thank you David for suggesting 👌🏻

  • @Bjarku
    @Bjarku 3 года назад +1

    Please do a video on Scott Walker’s later work. Greenwood’s solo stuff reminds me of it a lot.

  • @tangmaster123
    @tangmaster123 3 года назад +1

    Dude you are so good. Every single video is riveting.

  • @manderse12
    @manderse12 3 года назад +1

    David Bennett sent me. Great video. Subscribed!

  • @pabloco3257
    @pabloco3257 3 года назад +2

    it's impossible not to admire Jonny Greenwood

  • @joaquincarbajo8441
    @joaquincarbajo8441 2 года назад

    Awesome video!! Thank you for it!

  • @annakalatcheva6212
    @annakalatcheva6212 3 года назад

    this video brought a tear to my eye. beautiful work. thank you.

  • @bacc2pracc154
    @bacc2pracc154 3 года назад +1

    This video is strongly making me think of getting into composition

  • @Bati_
    @Bati_ 3 года назад +3

    This channel is easily becoming one of my favorite channels in such a short time... Each video you upload sparks my enthusiasm incredibly! Thanks so much for your immense effort!

  • @joshuacheng1115
    @joshuacheng1115 3 года назад +5

    There's a French band called Elend. Their work definitely absorbed Penderecki influence, especially in their second trilogy the Wind Cycle. It's a dark and mysterious journey listening to their music.

    • @SH-dz1yc
      @SH-dz1yc 3 года назад +1

      I'm going to definitely check them out

  • @jf3349
    @jf3349 Год назад

    2 years later after this video, "Bending Hectic" by The Smile (5:41) has a bridge clearly referencing the same influences Greenwood had by Penderecki.

  • @dignamshane
    @dignamshane 3 года назад

    Man that was a superb video. Thanks.

  • @tomahzo
    @tomahzo 3 года назад +22

    Woah, that quarter of an hour really flew on by ;). I thought it would feel longer because the subject matter is so detailed and deep but it was thoroughly entertaining while also being very informative. Thank you so much :). As a side-note I feel a desire to know more about the very details about how Radiohead operate internally. It's collaborative, but I feel like I want to know what parts typically come from what source... if there is such a simple division to be made... I always knew that Jonny was experimental and liked to play with electronics but I feel like there is so much to learn about how the group dynamics influence the end result.

  • @Oliver-lt7ye
    @Oliver-lt7ye Год назад +1

    Im just realizing that Greenwood essentially groomed me into being a Penderecki fan through radiohead

  • @smolbean4788
    @smolbean4788 2 года назад

    If you could I'd love to see more videos on Radiohead. Loved your last video on Radiohead . Indeed morrreeeee XD

  • @raihannurf3249
    @raihannurf3249 3 года назад +1

    My favorite is Proven lands yet until I hear sandy necklace in you were never really here... that one just beautiful and hunting at the same time

  • @danguee1
    @danguee1 3 года назад

    You guys - including David - do amaziiing things. So very interesting and such deep insights.....

  • @GeeZoiks
    @GeeZoiks 3 года назад

    Thank you so much, really enjoyed this video.

  • @leenitv
    @leenitv Год назад

    Excellent video

  • @pietro-ev3cz
    @pietro-ev3cz 3 года назад +1

    Wow. Just wow.

  • @vescallaghan2544
    @vescallaghan2544 3 года назад

    Was direct here by David. Very interesting a Great video thank you.

  • @simonedgbaston
    @simonedgbaston 3 года назад +1

    🔥 Thank you as a fan 🔥

  • @PierreSchmitt
    @PierreSchmitt 3 года назад

    Tank you so much for this wonderful analysis! It will be a great pleasure to discover the rest of your work!

  • @paulmcgoun7247
    @paulmcgoun7247 3 года назад +1

    utterly wonderful

  • @RyanFerreri
    @RyanFerreri 3 года назад

    Wow great video. After this, it is much easier to hear Greenwood's influence on Radiohead's music.

  • @NoUploadJustComment
    @NoUploadJustComment 3 года назад +3

    Don't forget the chaotic staccato of Burn the Witch.
    Nice analysis.

  • @waterglas21
    @waterglas21 3 года назад +1

    Great video and colaboration!

  • @Sofia-xv6uw
    @Sofia-xv6uw 3 года назад

    Man i love your videos it makes me so much happier thank you

  • @PedroSantos_83
    @PedroSantos_83 Год назад

    Fantastic! ❤

  • @gardikagigih5704
    @gardikagigih5704 3 года назад

    Johny Greenwood is my influence... thank you for this amazing essay! what a sharp analysis

  • @veevamm3642
    @veevamm3642 3 года назад

    Thank you this was wonderful.

  • @nickaglyc
    @nickaglyc 3 года назад +3

    in Climbing Up The Walls you missed the greatest moment when Ondes Martenot comes in and song bursts it gives me chills every time I hear it. Plus idk why didn't you mention anything from other albums especially AMSP cause there are many orchestral parts written by Jonny. Overall it was still very good video. Thank you.

  • @Alchemetica
    @Alchemetica 3 года назад

    David sent me 😏 An excellent analysis of Greenwood's work and I was pleased to see you tied references back also to Radiohead's music.

  • @snuppssynthchannel
    @snuppssynthchannel 3 года назад

    Interesting, Instantly drew that connection when I first heard How to disappear completely for the first time.