Awesome build and design. Appears to be UHF optimizsd. New version with Vhf Hi elements added? I assume you could use treated lumber similar to that used for decks, for weather resistance. Stain to match your exterior, neighborhood
Most of my antennas are designed for UHF reception, as that is what a majority of US TV stations are broadcasting on. Here's a link to one of my VHF add on antennas - ruclips.net/video/eqDwqveTOaE/видео.html Sure, you can use treated lumber, but I prefer PVC lumber as it is more stable and will not absorb moisture. Thanks for watching.
Absolutely stunned by how well this works because of how many trees are on my property and it’s only elevated on a 6ft pipe. I also can’t believe how inexpensive and relatively tiny this antenna is compared to the 7 ft, $200 monstrosity recommended by Televes. Not sure if 1/2” hardware cloth would improve reception, but 1/4” is what I had and seems to be just fine for reaching stations as far as 53 miles away.
I used this antenna design and used your twisted galvanized steel wire idea as well. This provided outstanding results. I am able to receive channels that range between 60 to 70 miles away. This is with the antenna about 16 feet above the ground. Thank you so much!
Would making the one hoop antenna with an extra inner and outer hoop increase the channel getting ability of the super antenna. This style you have made is super because the size factor makes this shine compared to a commercial brand. Televes antenna is so large that it looks like an elephant on the roof. One can put four DHA and the size is still under Televes size wise. Job well done again MHTI. Would really love to have your knowledge on the field Sir. Peace v
Excellent detailed instructional video. I appreciated you taking time to go through matrrials needed. I plan on building the reflector antenna this weekend. Currently I'm using a store bought black bar HD antenna about 2" wide and 24:long.., but only get about 8-10 channels and use it indoors. I will try your reflector antenna indoors first ..then move it outside, problaby mounted on a 10-12' galvanized pole Will let you know how it works . Thanks again for the video
A few points: All of the dimensions scale with the wavelength of the station you want to receive. An important one is the distance back to and the width of the reflector. Normally the distance back is 1/2 of a wavelength and the width of the reflector is about 15% more than the distance back. Look up the RF frequency for the far away stations. Pick the smallest number WaveLength = 300meters / MHz.
doing the math assuming it did it right that would suggest the reflector by 9.8 inches back for UHF channel 36 which I find to be twice what is normally suggested. Channel 14 would be 12.7 inches that seem way to far. One made for the center of hi-VHF would need to be 2 1/2 feet away. That seems a bit much. Thought the reflector width math seems fine. Could be this works for hoops and different antennas use 1/4 wavelength?
I am wondering if 2 antennas connected together overload the TV receiver ??? How about the 2 placement of DHA, would side by side work best or one on top of the other ??? One more thing, since the field of view is roughly 135 degrees , would moving the front of the antenna a number of degrees to increase the field of view lose some of the reception of the antennas ??? Thanks Mr. Hop To It. for your educational videos and shearing of the knowledge. Peace v
You could connect two of these antennas together. Side by side or one above the other would depend on your exact reception issue. I'd try each way. You can offset one element vs the other, but that would only work for very specific aiming issues. Normally its best to leave them in the same plane. Thanks, VF!
Would making this antenna times two side by side increase the gain like the Gray-Hoverman type antenna ??? Would winding two ten gauge copper wires help give the antenna a little more umph ??Thank you Mr. Hop To It. Just love your videos too. vf
Yeah if you use a combiner. You can even do a quad. But that will need a good pole to hold in the wind. You can also do two different directions with a combiner also helps if the stations are coming from two different directions. 73
Would using a reflector that is larger by a few extra inches in each four edges increase the reflective gain by a little bit MHTI ??? How about rolling the edges into a somewhat radius help also ?? Would placing two antennas side by side or one about the other increase the gain by a few numbers ?? This is just an idea as I am not sure. The reflective part will be 304 stainless steel for corrosion resistance. An not sure what will happen using this material. Flea-bay had a special on a roll of mesh cloth. One more thing, would using a copper wire say a number 6 or 4 gauge help reception ?? I remember one of your videos showing that a 10 gauge wire did the best for reception of antennas Mr. Hop To It. One more thing, how good does this tenna receive low VHF signal. I live in the few places where low VHF still is used Sir. Have yourself a Happy New Year Sir and many more for us both to come. Peace also Sir. vf
Hi VF. Enlarging the reflector will help gain, but it will narrow the reception focus. Using a radius edge could also do the same. Stacking antennas will allow you to collect signals from a wider swath, but how well it works depends on many factors. Using 304 stainless steel for a reflector should work. Increasing the wire to 6 or 4 gauge will increase gain potential, but in many cases, anything over 10 gauge isn't really cost effective for the minor gains you get. I cannot test for low VHF signals, as there are none transmitting in my vicinity, but this antenna probably would not work well for them. Try a dipole antenna tuned in length towards the channel you are trying to receive. Happy New Year to you, too VF!
There are not many low VHF stations but some cities still have them. A yagi antenna with large elements are better. In the old days antennas that were folded dipole worked good on low VHF like channel 2 through 4 or five channel six was like an FM antenna I used my radio shack 175 mile antenna for that channel. Some say there is no such antenna 175 miles but mine over picked 175 and father. I picked up NYC from Orlando FL. And also stations in CO. Was the low end of the FM dial. I liked classical music and I did what I had to to pick up stations like near West Palm Beach from Lakeland FL. That's over 200 miles away.73
The spacing was to intercept signals from a more vertical sample. You can also do it on the four hoop antenna, I just chose to keep the design simpler.
When I have an idea for a new antenna, I will often initially fabricate it in a prototype that is adjustable in configuration. I did it for this antenna, and changed the distance until I found what worked the best. Great question!
@mrhoptoit7835 thanks! I live in the Montreal area with local stations about 16 miles away and Vermont stations 88 miles. I already have a 4 bay bow tie antenna with 32" reflector to pull in hi-vhf. After building your antenna, I was surprised it worked remarkably good ...pulling in those 88 miles stations. Keep up your excellent work!
Check out my new tutorial on how to use rabbitears.info. You can print detailed area maps, target maps, and more. Here's the link to the video - ruclips.net/video/jjpW-EDVG9g/видео.html. Thanks for watching
Wrong copper is far better than steel , most commercial antennas are made of aluminum which is still better than steel. For stiffness use number 10 or number 8 solid copper. You can even make it stiffer by putting one end in the vise and the other end in a drill just a short turn will get rid of small kinks and stiffen the copper. There is a spray that will coat the copper wire to keep it from oxidizing. A little green won't hurt reception though. 73
Forgot to mention that your hula hoop design (ruclips.net/video/Tg0JjeotXq4/видео.htmlsi=s_O1SGom0DP3zK-H) also works but doesn’t get the channels I want. Thanks so much for creating these easy-to-follow tutorials!
Awesome build and design.
Appears to be UHF optimizsd.
New version with Vhf Hi elements added?
I assume you could use treated lumber similar to that used for decks, for weather resistance.
Stain to match your exterior, neighborhood
Most of my antennas are designed for UHF reception, as that is what a majority of US TV stations are broadcasting on. Here's a link to one of my VHF add on antennas - ruclips.net/video/eqDwqveTOaE/видео.html
Sure, you can use treated lumber, but I prefer PVC lumber as it is more stable and will not absorb moisture. Thanks for watching.
Absolutely stunned by how well this works because of how many trees are on my property and it’s only elevated on a 6ft pipe. I also can’t believe how inexpensive and relatively tiny this antenna is compared to the 7 ft, $200 monstrosity recommended by Televes. Not sure if 1/2” hardware cloth would improve reception, but 1/4” is what I had and seems to be just fine for reaching stations as far as 53 miles away.
Great! Thanks for sharing your results.
I used this antenna design and used your twisted galvanized steel wire idea as well. This provided outstanding results. I am able to receive channels that range between 60 to 70 miles away. This is with the antenna about 16 feet above the ground.
Thank you so much!
Wow, that's great! Thanks for letting everyone know.
I think your antenna looks great. Love the style. And if it works this well, all the better!!
Thanks 👍
Would making the one hoop antenna with an extra inner and outer hoop increase the channel getting ability of the super antenna. This style you have made is super because the size factor makes this shine compared to a commercial brand.
Televes antenna is so large that it looks like an elephant on the roof. One can put four DHA and the size is still under Televes size wise.
Job well done again MHTI. Would really love to have your knowledge on the field Sir. Peace v
As usual, you are always thinking! You've given me more ideas, VF. Thanks.
@@mrhoptoit7835 Look forward to see you make something super MHTI. Hope that happens soon. . Peace v
Excellent detailed instructional video. I appreciated you taking time to go through matrrials needed. I plan on building the reflector antenna this weekend. Currently I'm using a store bought black bar HD antenna about 2" wide and 24:long.., but only get about 8-10 channels and use it indoors. I will try your reflector antenna indoors first ..then move it outside, problaby mounted on a 10-12' galvanized pole
Will let you know how it works . Thanks again for the video
You are welcome. Thanks for watching my channel!
A few points:
All of the dimensions scale with the wavelength of the station you want to receive.
An important one is the distance back to and the width of the reflector.
Normally the distance back is 1/2 of a wavelength and the width of the reflector is about 15% more than the distance back.
Look up the RF frequency for the far away stations. Pick the smallest number
WaveLength = 300meters / MHz.
Hi Ken. As always, thanks for your comment!
@@mrhoptoit7835 It is a topic of interest to me. At some point I will have to make my own video on the topic.
Please do. I'm looking forward to watching it!
doing the math assuming it did it right that would suggest the reflector by 9.8 inches back for UHF channel 36 which I find to be twice what is normally suggested. Channel 14 would be 12.7 inches that seem way to far. One made for the center of hi-VHF would need to be 2 1/2 feet away. That seems a bit much. Thought the reflector width math seems fine. Could be this works for hoops and different antennas use 1/4 wavelength?
@@harryballsak1123 I think you may be correct that 1/4 wavelength is a more common value.
I am wondering if 2 antennas connected together overload the TV receiver ??? How about the 2 placement of DHA, would side by side work best or one on top of the other ??? One more thing, since the field of view is roughly 135 degrees , would moving the front of the antenna a number of degrees to increase the field of view lose some of the reception of the antennas ??? Thanks Mr. Hop To It. for your educational videos and shearing of the knowledge. Peace v
You could connect two of these antennas together. Side by side or one above the other would depend on your exact reception issue. I'd try each way. You can offset one element vs the other, but that would only work for very specific aiming issues. Normally its best to leave them in the same plane. Thanks, VF!
@@mrhoptoit7835 Thank you MHTI. I will have to try it out. v
You just get gooder and gooder! I liked the camp ground reviews.
Glad you like them!
Would making this antenna times two side by side increase the gain like the Gray-Hoverman type antenna ??? Would winding two ten gauge copper wires help give the antenna a little more umph ??Thank you Mr. Hop To It. Just love your videos too. vf
I think both your ideas have potential and would help gain. Thanks, VF!
I am glad my ideas have some weight to you MHTI. Peace Sir. @@mrhoptoit7835
Yeah if you use a combiner. You can even do a quad. But that will need a good pole to hold in the wind. You can also do two different directions with a combiner also helps if the stations are coming from two different directions. 73
@@ronb6182 Thanks for the information Sir 73
What would be the next step for this antenna for extrm distance MHTI ?? Thanks v 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
No idea. Lol. I'll have to do some more experimenting
I wonder if a higher-quality matching transformer (Balun) would improve signal even more?
Stay tuned.....
Would using a reflector that is larger by a few extra inches in each four edges increase the reflective gain by a little bit MHTI ??? How about rolling the edges into a somewhat radius help also ?? Would placing two antennas side by side or one about the other increase the gain by a few numbers ??
This is just an idea as I am not sure. The reflective part will be 304 stainless steel for corrosion resistance. An not sure what will happen using this material. Flea-bay had a special on a roll of mesh cloth. One more thing, would using a copper wire say a number 6 or 4 gauge help reception ?? I remember one of your videos showing that a 10 gauge wire did the best for reception of antennas Mr. Hop To It. One more thing, how good does this tenna receive low VHF signal. I live in the few places where low VHF still is used Sir.
Have yourself a Happy New Year Sir and many more for us both to come. Peace also Sir. vf
Hi VF. Enlarging the reflector will help gain, but it will narrow the reception focus. Using a radius edge could also do the same. Stacking antennas will allow you to collect signals from a wider swath, but how well it works depends on many factors. Using 304 stainless steel for a reflector should work. Increasing the wire to 6 or 4 gauge will increase gain potential, but in many cases, anything over 10 gauge isn't really cost effective for the minor gains you get.
I cannot test for low VHF signals, as there are none transmitting in my vicinity, but this antenna probably would not work well for them. Try a dipole antenna tuned in length towards the channel you are trying to receive.
Happy New Year to you, too VF!
Thank you for letting me know some facts about antenna stuff fella. Peace and out. vf@@mrhoptoit7835
There are not many low VHF stations but some cities still have them. A yagi antenna with large elements are better. In the old days antennas that were folded dipole worked good on low VHF like channel 2 through 4 or five channel six was like an FM antenna I used my radio shack 175 mile antenna for that channel. Some say there is no such antenna 175 miles but mine over picked 175 and father. I picked up NYC from Orlando FL. And also stations in CO. Was the low end of the FM dial. I liked classical music and I did what I had to to pick up stations like near West Palm Beach from Lakeland FL. That's over 200 miles away.73
Why are the rings spaced apart a certain distance ??? Yet the four hoops antenna so close together ??
The spacing was to intercept signals from a more vertical sample. You can also do it on the four hoop antenna, I just chose to keep the design simpler.
@@mrhoptoit7835 O.K. thank you for this tidbit of knowledge MHRI. vf
Since you used tin flashing for the reflector on the octagon antenna, how well would it work for the reflector on this antenna vs the 1/2" wire mesh?
Peeformance wise there would be very little difference. Thanks for watching.
Great video! How did you determined the distance between the two loops? Calculation?
When I have an idea for a new antenna, I will often initially fabricate it in a prototype that is adjustable in configuration. I did it for this antenna, and changed the distance until I found what worked the best. Great question!
@mrhoptoit7835 thanks! I live in the Montreal area with local stations about 16 miles away and Vermont stations 88 miles. I already have a 4 bay bow tie antenna with 32" reflector to pull in hi-vhf. After building your antenna, I was surprised it worked remarkably good ...pulling in those 88 miles stations. Keep up your excellent work!
This antenna has been overlooked by many people, but those who build it have had excellent results. Thanks for letting me know!
Will this also amplify a close signal?
This will receive nearby signals as well as more distant ones
Where can I find a station location map?
google ftc dtv map
Check out my new tutorial on how to use rabbitears.info. You can print detailed area maps, target maps, and more. Here's the link to the video - ruclips.net/video/jjpW-EDVG9g/видео.html. Thanks for watching
Wrong copper is far better than steel , most commercial antennas are made of aluminum which is still better than steel. For stiffness use number 10 or number 8 solid copper. You can even make it stiffer by putting one end in the vise and the other end in a drill just a short turn will get rid of small kinks and stiffen the copper. There is a spray that will coat the copper wire to keep it from oxidizing. A little green won't hurt reception though. 73
Check out this other video I posted regarding this topic - ruclips.net/video/bm_4eb78bwQ/видео.html Thanks for watching.
@@mrhoptoit7835 doesn't matter still copper is a better conductor. Ham radio operators use copper over any other wire for antennas. 73
Most common mobile antenna/whip is made of steel. 73s KJ5FTB
Forgot to mention that your hula hoop design (ruclips.net/video/Tg0JjeotXq4/видео.htmlsi=s_O1SGom0DP3zK-H) also works but doesn’t get the channels I want. Thanks so much for creating these easy-to-follow tutorials!
You are welcome. Like I always say, antennas aren't "one size fits all". You have to choose depending on your situation.