Also you will never have the biggest or ultimate collection because it really is a bottomless pit. Almost every week you will come across something new and undiscovered.
AMEN! For me, the "Value" in the record is how long it took me to find it and where I found it. It's not monetary. It's in the hunt and it's purely subjective.
Well I guess that kind of depends a bit. I don't think people have to be consumed with value if it doesn't matter to them, but in many cases we tend to forget that there are many vinyl collectors who are "music fans" as well as "collectors". I mean there are so many people who like to collect rare coins, stamps, baseball cards, or a million other things were value/rarity are a key piece because they are collectors. I just always found it odd that vinyl record collectors are often "forbidden" from being collectors in the eyes of so many people. I once had a friend who thought it was stupid that I had sealed records in my collection. He said...what is the point of having a sealed record if you don't listen to it. So my response to him was....would you tell a guy who has a baseball bat that was used in the last world series by his favorite team hanging on his wall..."What is the point of having a baseball bat if you don't play ball with it" or tell a stamp collector who has rare stamps "What is point of owning these stamps if you don't mail letters with them". LOL Finally my friend was able to see that there can two different aspect to record collecting. The love of the music and the collector joy of finding and owning valued collector pieces just like the baseball card or art collector.
i purchased a copy of the beatles yesterday and today at i think sears in 1966 or 1967 i was 14 at the time ! the boys with the plastic dolls i thought was cute!! i then took my new record to a beatles concert and my dad was able to take me back stage! i was so excited to meet the boys and asked them to sign my new record! they all agreed and i was the happiest kid ever !!! i wonder if my like new signed by all the boys record is worth something?? i dont think i would sell it ... mary
Yeah this one threw me for a loop, after all my collecting of original records from the 60s my 1991 US pressing of Slint - Spiderland remains my most valuable one according to discogs.
My jaw dropped when I found a 1997 pressing of Squirrel Bait's self-titled 12" EP in a tiny record store selling mostly 50s/60s records. I thought it would be worth a ton but apparently Squirrel Bait is quite unpopular compared to their contemporaries like Fugazi.
In the 90s, sealed new vinyl was just so rare, you grabbed it. I saw new vinyl so seldom, I always wondered why they would bother pressing so little.. Right now, I'm making a living selling records I bought as recently as 2012. Even some recent stuff is worth huge money, cause the band has since become famous, but 10 years ago, they only pressed 500 or whatever. I just sold a band called Blue October vinyl called Sway, not even 10 years old for $400. I bought all these indie bands vinyl and I was working 80 hours a week, so I never had a chance to open and play them. Now that I have the time, I'm terrified to open them, cause I'm finding out I'm sitting on a small fortune lol
At the record store I work at, we bought this giant collection of records. Ad there was some good, somewhat valuable things in there. And yet the most valuable thing in the collection was a dog training record, that on average was about 150 dollars on discogs. No clue why it was worth that much, but it still gave us a good laugh.
Very spot on video. Here’s my example. I have 3 vinyl copies of Black Sabbath Vol.4 - one of my favourite albums of all time. I have owned 4. My first was around 1976 when I was 15. It was the gatefold with the booklet which I played on my parents’ system off a Goldring Lenco deck through Scan-Dyna speakers. Tastes changed I needed money and it was sold. Maybe 5 years later bought a Nems label copy for maybe £2 -creased sleeve but vinyl fine: sound quality godawful which I then assumed had always been the case. Fast forward and I bought a Universal gatefold release with the booklet kind of half reproduced on the inner sleeve with some history. Made for the resurgent vinyl market and (playing this copy now via Rega deck, Creek Destiny amp and Epos speakers) clearly ‘mastered’ from digital sources and still flat. Then 3 years ago I was in Birmingham, England and toured the record shops. At Swordfish Records was a 1st press of Vol.4! Woo. Not only that it was mint. Guy in the shop said ‘we see hundreds of these but they are almost always bashed up and scratched’. Well being careful with records wasn’t really the way: taking them to parties, skinning up on them, dropping them, drunk people skating needles over them etc. But this was peachy. I paid £80. I had my youth back at a price. BUT even better when I put it on the LP I had come to think was crapily recorded it was actually a total musical production and pressing MONSTER. Worth every pound spent :) Now I’m taking this Universal release off and playing the real deal...
I have a friend that would scour thrift stores, junk shops, yard sales and antique shops looking for strange private pressed gospel albums. In particular, albums that had some of the most gaudy looking cover photos. He would either sell or trade them to a few private collectors for good profit. What a few of these private collectors considered valuable is something most people would probably not spend a quarter for. I enjoyed this video Dillon. Hope you can reopen the store soon. Thanks...
Added or deleted songs from various pressings can make a big difference. The first version of the KISS' first vinyl did not have "Kissing Time" on it and it is worth considerably more than one with it. If you have one without it, you have a first pressing. If you one with it, then you have a second + pressing. I might be wrong, but based on what I read, I think I am correct.
@@noblerecords A rare Kiss Self titled is one with a pink promo Warner Brothers sticker on it. Warner Brothers distributed Casablanca for a very short time.
Hey bud, you're clear, you're concise, you've got visual examples - you're a great resource for newbies and engaging for those in the middle of the pack (like me). You're doing a great service for the hobby/biz! I have in my possession a flawless copy of the Atom Heart Mother vinyl. Purple Capitol labels, US release. It showed up with no sleeve or jacket! Someone out there might be looking for a vinyl upgrade. How would you price such a piece given rarity, condition, but lack of packaging?
“This is not a mono copy this is a stereo copy. You can tell by the big stereo letters” 😂😂Yup, prolly not payin’ off the house with that one today Sparky…
I appreciate this a lot. I used to work at a record store and had to field a lot of the same questions and scenarios. No, Elvis records usually aren't worth a ton. No, that Street Survivors isn't particularly rare. One thing I would tell people is that typically local stuff is what we would like them to bring in. If they had a friend who was in a Garage band in the 60s and pressed a few 45s, we'd like to see it and not the beat up Sgt. Peppers album. (Boy, the amount of times people would try to sell us beat up copies of that record for 50 dollars is too much) It's pretty simple, it's just supply and demand. If they're a huge selling artist like the Beatles or Michael Jackson, more likely than not it's not some crazy expensive thing.
i have a Yes close to the edge with a plain atlantic label on one side, UK copy. i also have over 50 vertigo swirl LPs, amix of UK and OZ pressings and a few US, some of them are worth a bit too, and i went nuts on australian progressive and blues rock so i have a lot of rare early 70s aussie stuff...lately im getting into UK progressive jazz....;keith Tippet, Ian Carr, Nucleus, mike westbrook ,michael Garrick,mike gibbs,neil ardley, bloody great music! pretty hard to find too and sometimes expensive, but i love vinyl and i love to have my fave stuff on vinyl.
Great video again Dillon. You're right about drum breaks- that's a whole underworld of collecting, like library records. Hard to navigate. My signed og Highway 61 by Bob Dylan is worth a lot- super rare. But that is an exception like you said. Most autographs aren't worth a great deal. You're getting a lot of hits for these videos: keeping it interesting and fast moving- the perfect combination! Cheers, Alan
A couple of general comments: 1. Ultra-rare and valuable records with condition problems can definitely be worth a lot, particularly if the problem is limited. I have a MoFi Help! that has a scratch across just one track - if a NM copy is $200, mine is probably $40-50. Also, old mono jazz records sometimes play much better than they look, particularly with an expensive mono cartridge. 2. There are a lot of strange fads - Dillon didn't even mention Northern Soul, which I really don't get. In the classical world, I once observed a crazy fad for 7" singles with picture sleeves by boy sopranos - it lasted about six months. The records sold for up to $500 on eBay. 3. Strange legal battles can really move the market. In the BritFolk world, everyone knows that when Bill Leader went bankrupt, someone bought the rights to his catalog, but never reissued any of the records, nor will they allow anyone else to do so. This means that the entire Nic Jones oeuvre is unavailable in any format, spiking prices. In classical, Urania famously issued a Furtwangler Beethoven Symphony #3, but then got sued by Furtwangler and had to recall the record - there are very few of those around.
You also forgot in the classical genre the original shade dog living stereo RCA victor pressing of witch's brew i forget the composer and symphony. I found a near mint copy at a goodwill for 75 cents lol
the street survivors album with all the inserts can go for more than $20 easily because most of them aren't complete. But you're right the black album cover which is just the back of the album cover blown up seems to be more rare than the flames. It's just an interesting story surrounding the album. Ronnie Van Zant, Steve Gaines, Cassie Gaines and Dean Kilpatrick are the people with the band who died in the crash. It's amazing more people didn't die.. the plane wasn't a tiny plane at all. I know some of the survivors and even have a tiny piece of the plane cut out into a guitar pick one of them gave me. It's a bit weird but since one of the survivors gave it to me I will cherish it in my collection of music history items. Another thing to note the plane ran out of gas so there was no fire which is why they all didn't die but the Gaines family wanted the cover changed because Steve is engulfed in flames on the cover of the album. Lynyrd Skynyrd was one of the most popular band in the WORLD at the time not just the US when that plane went down. Had that plane not gone down they would be remembered so much differently it's a shame they don't get the credit they deserve. No thanks to the guys who still tour under the name doesn't help their legacy at all. These guys were amazing and deserve more recognition for the music they made. I'll leave it at that because I could go all day :)
for me, the wonderful thing about music / collecting is the continual stream of new stuff - old stuff but not heard / newly discovered ... it's like finding a new seam of gold in the ground anyhow, i joined a thred on Twitter just last week and someone cited a classical LP worth £600 / $800 + - and so i did a bit of research and discovered a few other LPs worth £100 + and because i do boot fairs (people in a field selling old stuff) i will keep my eyes open - along with the gold buyers and antique dealers etc etc .... amazing what comes out tbh - i bought some lovely early 70s funk just last week .... but my main point (and i stand to be corrected) is that said classical LPs were all from the same label and all 1958 - 1960 ish ... the point being they all had stereo written in large letters along the top of the front covers i thought stereo began in 1962 - hence that first Beatles LP being worth a shed load of cash ... and maybe these LPs were for a certain market ie people with a lot of money to spend on stereo equipment when everyone else bought mono just googled it and sure enough - 1954 - first records sold were 1958 - hence the value ... and it dates to earlier in other formats as well
Sometimes with really obscure stuff, it's hard to tell what will have any value. Sometimes the weirdest records that no one would bat an eye at if they saw in a flea market, end up being worth like 200 bucks for some reason.
Thanks, Dillon, for another great vid. I co-run a small record store in Tasmania, Australia (Suffragette Records - started August ‘22) selling only music by women, and it’s been a steep learning curve to understand some of the factors that influence value. I like to guess the median Discogs price before I look it up. I’m getting better at it, but sometimes the record throws a price-curveball at ya! We also have a location-specific scarcity factor in Australia - plenty of Australian pressings but US pressings are uncommon. So, that influences my pricing somewhat.
I have a copy of Alice Cooper’s “Killer” on red vinyl but the metal parts that were used were for the “Easy Action” album. And “Easy Action” had the metal parts for the “Killer” album. One of the biggest cockups I’ve seen in my time collecting. Not sure what the market is like for those kinda niche pressing but out of the rare weirdo records I have, those are definitely it. I started to lose belief years ago that the original cover for “Street Survivors” was so rare because I would see OG copies in dollar bins and such. Plus when you use the cover for reissues and such, that can somewhat diminish the value. Very informative video Dillion, cheers!
the Led Zepp NZ Houses of the Holy. Similar thing for the NZ Bowie Hunky Dory release being a different sleeve to the usual release in that the back picture was used on both back and front as they couldn't get the artwork to NZ in time, Did the same happen for Houses i wonder ?.
In the punk/hardcore world, there are often limited pressings on small labels that just don’t exist anymore. If there has never been a reissue it can be quite expensive. Especially if the band got famous later on a major label (Jimmy Eat World, Nirvana etc) or if they grew a cult audience by word of mouth after they broke up (Indian Summer, Teen Idols, SOA etc). A current white whale for me is the first album by the band The Plot To Blow Up The Eiffel Tower. First record had small pressings and discogs only shows 2 VG+ copies from Germany for over 70 bucks, even though they were an obscure San Diego punk band that existed from 2003 to 2006.
Good overview. Records are similar to all commodities, if you know what you are doing minimal money expenditure can get you a great collection. If you don't you can spend tens of thousands and end up with a nasty heap of sound pollution. Pieces of a Man, on your shelf, is a good one to discuss. Easily found for a few dollars back in the 80's, 90's, now is it nearer a $100. That's a great album. But you can find many that went from a few bucks to hundreds that are average or poor. So many factors. Fashion, hype, conformity, gullibility, etc.
Original James Gang Rides Again look for on one side the smooth area before the label has etched numbers also "Love from Jessica" written there also. Joe Walsh's Barnstorm also has "Thats No Banana Thats My Nose" There is another I forget which.
Last year I sold the first pressing of Street Survivors with insets and all MINT for $68. I believe at the time at least that was the most it had ever sold for.
My Father in Law brought a crate of 78's home one day that he had picked up from an friend who was throwing them away. He was all happy thinking that since they were old, they would be worth a lot of money and that he could sell them a buy a new car. I researched the titles for him and had to tell him that the most expensive record he had out of the 30 records was only worth about $12. All the others were worth only $1 - $3 dollars.
Awesome vid, man. Right on the money, figuratively and literally speaking. “I’ve got all these Elvis record at home” lol! I just sold a truly NM 1st copy of Metallica’s “RTL” on Megaforce from ‘84 for $300. I could’ve held out for more, but I could tell the guy really wanted it, and felt it was gonna truly get a great new home, although it was difficult to give up. I’ll NEVER see a cleaner copy. I shouldn’t say that, cuz this is record collecting, buying, and selling we’re talking about after all.
In a niche case like that of Vee Jay records, a disorganized, desperate label can skyrocket value decades later when they have content from a band like...The Beatles. I have a Stereo Ad Back of Introducing the Beatles in a Sears and Roebucks baggie...put out that way because the label wanted to rush the album out and therefore neglected track listings on the back slick. I spotted one in the wild at an Oregon record shop a couple years ago. Paid several thousand for it and folks, looking at the album’s selling history it was still a steal.
I've been looking for a still-sealed or near mint copy of the Uniques lp, "Happening--Now!!" Paula LP/LPS-2194, issued in 1967. Some used copies on eBay are being sold for under $100.00, but there is a still sealed copy (can't tell if it's mono or stereo) for $499.99. That's well beyond my price range. The seller provides free shipping, which doen't really thrill me. I purchased several albums while I was in the Air Force 1970-1974, assigned duty in Turkey, then England. The base exchange stores stocked lp's pressed mostly from Germany, Netherlands and UK. In some cases jacket design and music content are identical to US pressings, and some are different. Generally speaking is there a value difference between US and foreign pressings?
I have a Foghat - Fool for the City - pressing that has a blank label on side one. Has the right music, right label, just nothing printed on the label. - I also have The Beatles - Revolver record with the right music, but is mislabeled with the Rubber Soul label on both sides. (Reissue from 2012)
This was a good one!! We would get people coming into the antque shop with stuff thats not worth anything and think its worth $$$$ its something their mom or dad at at sears in the 70s and is just not an antque. Take care man
Some of those pressing errors are crazy. I have a Ryan Adams- Heartbreaker Record that the second LP is Edward Sharpe and The Magnetic zeros but has the Heartbreaker label on it. Cheers, Brian🍀
@@noblerecords As we know, anything can & has happened in the music / record business. Including mistakes / errors. Dunhill (The Mamas & The Papas) pumped out the hits, and had poorer quality control than Columbia, RCA or Capitol. When a pressing plant 'has' to get the 'product' out, no matter what, when units delivered is the priority, quality control can slip.
Fun stuff. Like your videos cause they are various types and styles of music. I do the Austin record shows and think you are more in line with the supply/demand aspect of the trade. Especially like your enthusiasm about the music and a little background on the artists.
A lot of good stuff here! When I was first looking into getting into this hobby and collecting I knew there was one album I had to have- ...Is a Real Boy by Say Anything. Favorite album from my all time favorite band. They were an underground emo/alt-rock band that had maybe one or two hit songs in 2004 before falling off the radar, couldnt be that hard or expensive to find right? Cheapest I've been able to find so far is $250, maybe 4 or 5 copies total. I checked discogs like you mentioned and it turns out there were 4 pressings of the album in large quantities so (to my understanding but I could be wrong, still new) it wasnt really that rare. Absolutely blows my mind that its that much 16 years later when Ive barely been able to find anyone else who listens to them
I had a question and I hope it is not too dumb of a question: He mentioned that if you put a record in that condition (that of the Led Zeppelin record) on your turntable there's a good chance it'll mess up your needle. Does anyone know how true this may be? I have a lot of records in similar condition that don't skip but with just tons of background noise which I just choose to live with until I can replace those specific records. Do they damage your needle or am I okay to play those? I didn't think they did but anyone let me know thanks!
That’s a great question, your needle takes a beating with records like that. The needle is made to ride a smooth groove, when you hear pops and ticks, those are interruptions in the groove. A few here in there isn’t a big deal but over time, you’ll loose definition in your needle. If you have a cheap needle it’s not a huge deal, but it’s technically bad for the needle.
I have an odd WB pressing of the first America album I discovered from my days in radio in the 80's. The America jacket & labels are all correct as is the music on side one but side two is 'Killer' from Alice Cooper, who was also on WB. I had just put this new copy in the studio and the first to play it on-air was a part-time DJ working our softer rock Sunday morning show. She cued it up on the first note only and ended up playing 'Dead Babies' instead of what she thought would be some America track. It's a funny story...now. Still have it in my collection.
I know that we all bought Street Survivor as soon as it was released and it was damn near worn out by the time they re-released it. But I gotta say..... My exes best friend borrowed our copy and never returned it. My ex has never forgotten it. He was also a tyrant about 45's. If you didn't listen to the album at our house, you didn't get to listen. He assured me that if I liked one song that I would like them all. I do thank him for teaching me to appreciate great music. Led Zepplin, Pink Floyd, and Jethro Tull were his favorites.
I figured out you outbid me for a record/ Toto kingdom of desire / my copy is well a little noisy maybe a little more than noisy / You kinda remind me of well me / love your enthusiasm and videos/ if I end up in Carolina I will look you up!
I was always told the the Robert Ludwig mastered LP was worth so much was because it was a " hot pressing". but I am not really sure just what that means. ps how much was the first Stooges original LP worth ?
I’ve always heard it’s a loud mix, master, and pressing - louder than other pressings. So much so that people back in 1969 who used inferior turntables and styli found their equipment simply couldn’t handle the hot mix’s volume in the grooves and it skipped and/or sounded distorted to them. They returned it at at such a clip that Atlantic repressed it. However, it turns out that it’s just a loud mix that plays just fine on today’s turntables and gear and sounds fantastic with Robert Ludwig’s hot mix.
I had to smile when you showed the Zep album with the blank label. I have a German pressing of KISS: Best Of The Solo Albums with a blank label on one side.
Great videos. I've been collecting Lps ect since 12 yrs old. 65 now and still have most. Wanted to ask about a Pink Floyd 'Dark Side Of The Moon' lp I have with 3 full size posters included. I searched and still have never seen another. Most I believe just have 2. Any thoughts? Thanks ✌
There are current imports with one or more posters. You MAY have a unique issue, with more than 2 posters. I have a Pink Floyd Flag, and a Pink Floyd plastic bag with handles, to carry - only! - Pink Floyd albums. These, and at times, Pink Floyd posters are sold separately. Can you verify that these posters came with your album? Perhaps (small) consistent identification numbers, on the items. Does Dillon carry English import albums? Is your album an import? I'd be surprised if Capitol put in 3 posters. The imports sound better than the Capitols, made in the U S. For example, other Capitol artist complained, at the time, that in the 60's, they couldn't have their albums pressed, because Capitol has its own plants, and focused on the exceptional demand for Beatles pressings. Wanda Jackson, for example. Capitol has good quality control, but not 100% perfect. EMI British pressings sound better; the London U S Rolling Stones early albums are terrible, compared to the imports, for example! I purchased my (contemporary) Pink Floyd LPs from oldies.com, and ccmusic.com "The Dark Side Of The Moon" is one of the largest selling LPs in history, and may still hold the record (so to speak!) as being on the Billboard Top 200 albums for the longest time, years & years! My tastes are quite eclectic; years ago, "Johnny's Greatest Hits," Johnny Mathis, held this distinction, being on the charts for, I think, over 10 years! At least, "The Dark Side of the Moon," is a great LP to listen to! Years from now (I hope!) when I 'check out,' "The Dark Side of the Moon" will continue to be in print, & I'll have to give my records to Dillon! Great Guy! (Little known fact: Mr. Smith spells his first name, correctly! Bob has always, misspelled HIS name!)
That inside of the gatefold on the cover of the jacket is sooo RADD An that blank side on the other side of the other houses of the holy made me laugh that's great😂😂
Speaking of skynyrd I have a copy of pronounced that I thought wasn’t worth anything because I figured it was common and the cover isn’t in good shape. Turns out it’s an original yellow label and the record itself is near mint, and they sell for a decent amount on discogs. Enjoyed the video a lot!
I was at a pawn shop one time that I knew had records and just wanted to see if I could get lucky. I found a Led Zeppelin II RL Mix that was absolutely COOKED and had no cover, you hate to see it.
I was attending the Navy Nuclear Power School in Vallejo, California when I purchased Led Zep II. The thing was, it was 'cut' very loudly, & skipped on my turntable. It did have more 'punch' & a better signal - to - noise ratio. I later replaced it, & it had been remastered, much lower volume. The first issue must of had a lot of returns. I did 'research' and later purchased the Shure V - 15 series cartridges, because they had more 'trackability' - were designed to navigate loudly mastered records. For example, the Styx, "Paradise Theater" album, A & M, is cut very loud, but didn't skip on my then equipment. I thought that it was distorted, didn't have to be mastered as loudly as it had been. Was very successful, though.
A lot of great info there Dillon. Been watching your videos and just subscribed and just a couple of clarifications. I believe records MUST be both play and visually graded as some blemishes like swirl marks can not be heard on some systems and it all has to do with what stylus you have on your cart. Many older LP's from the 50's and 60's were played with carts that had a conical stylus on them and were not changed out as often as they should and thus were ragged and caused damage to the grooves, but put it on a table with say, an elliptical stylus and the damage nay not be heard despite the swirl marks say. An example, about 15 years ago, I bought a copy of Night Lights, Jerry Mulligan and it's the original Phillips stereo pressing from 1963 and at the store where I bought it in Seattle, it played fine and even with a cantiwampus cantilever on the record player, of which I think was a bottom feeding Technics from the late 70's or some such and again, it played fine. Got it home and crackle city, mistracking on my table. It was my cart it turned out being not aligned anywhere close to correctly but now, it plays pretty cleanly in so far as mistracking goes. But sometimes you get lucky with an album. One store here in Tacoma where I live now, they guy had a good, but not stellar condition copy of Kind of Blue by Miles Davis, mono, Columbia 6-eye that had a sticker of $30, I also picked up an original Portrait pressing of Dog and Butterfly by Heart (with a slight warp, but clean otherwise) that went for $15 and wound up paying also $15 for Kind of Blue! Also, it turned out to be a fairly early pressing as one, the label for side 2 was corrected (the two track titles were originally reversed) and other factors revealed it was pressed after Nov 1959 (date of correction) and before 1961 when CBS bought Columbia and the CBS nomenclature was placed at the 12:00 position on the label for 1961-62 until the 2-eye labels came out. It's not perfect as far as clean playing goes (it's mono too, they seem to find me even though I don't look for them specifically) but I'm sure most of that will be gone with a good cleaning. :-) And finally, an original pressing in good shape, LP AND cover of Workingman's Dead by the Grateful dean, on the olive green WB label, with a mistake on the cover that clues in that it was an early press, the back tip art was pasted upside down! Found it in the bargain bins for $13 locally last year. The only issue with the cover was a light bend on one corner, but intact otherwise. I often find this album and some of their earlier LP's with split covers going as high as $25 or so for less than good condition for the cover at least. But KOB is very common so it'll never sell for a huge amount. Early Blue Note records issued, and pressed between 1956-1966 are often worth big bucks as many never sold much more than 80K copies initially but often can be had for way less as a reissue. A case in point, Whistle Stop by Kenny Dorham (1961) has sold for as high as $600-1000, according to Popsyke but a UA/BN reissue can be had in near mint condition for $40 as that's how I got my copy, a late 70's most likely white B pressing, and it'd been sitting in the racks for about a year before I purchased it for $40. That was a couple of years ago now. It's fairly common knowledge that if you don't have a huge wad of bread in your pocket, for years the Liberty/UA reissues of many older BN records are often the best reissues to get, though BN, the current BN70, BN80 and Tone Poet are some of the best out there currently as reissues. I have the tone poet pressing of Lee Morgan's Cornbread (1967), a fantastic album and well worth the $35 price of admission for it. The same for the BN80 reissue of Jutta Hipp/Zoot Sims LP from 1956 is well worth the price of admission at $24.99, both mastered by Kevin Gray. Anyway, keep it up and hope you can survive and reopen. I'm hoping my local record stores survive too and next weekend when I get paid, will throw come cash to one in particular here locally to help them along a little.
Demand plays a much bigger part in a records resale value than rarity. As detailed in the video you can find some mega rare private pressings where only 99 copies were pressed that you can’t even sell for £10, meanwhile for example Iron Maiden lp’s that were manufactured in the 10’s of 1000’s if NM or unplayed and they’re originals not modern reissues then you can get a decent’ish price. Great video.
What effect do reissues have on value of 1st pressings? It can create exposure but do collectors need that original copy? Sometimes in comics these reissues are actually a lot nicer quality, but that's a whole other story.
I have that Duke Ellington album & the play bill for the live in Newport concert. My Big Question is This: I ordered Adele 30 album online and I got it for a really good deal for $15 bucks . Everybody else was selling it for $35-$40 by accident I ordered two of them. So I took one to my local record store near me & he scanned it & said it's only worth $15. I did find one in his bit for $38 Why?? I know he has to make money but why was the one I bought so cheap & others are so expensive??
Dillon - You are a Great Guy! Really Great! Nothing to point out! Except: PLEASE do not touch the vinyl surface, with your fingers! A sensitive, high quality, light tracking stylus / cartridge, CAN pick this up! Especially noticeable. with a low level intro, but a wide frequency range system, especially at loud volume, can reveal this under any circumstance! There is a small 'lead in' area, but it's hard to not touch the music area, as this is narrow. I enjoy your videos (If you listen to me, I may have to give you a early press of Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" with the genitalia on the cover! The dogs, NOT David's! Though this last, would be more valuable!) I enjoy your videos, but wince every time that you pull out an 'undressed' record, with your fingers! Please use a Vinyl Styl Archival Quality Inner Sleeve, or, perhaps better yet, the MoFi, Mobile Fidelity 'Non-Scratching, Anti Static.' You can see the disc through the non opaque, transparent side. Well worth it, for a clean copy of any real note! Some of us actually PLAY a few of the discs we collect, not just talk about them! There are pictures on old Columbia & RCA paper inner sleeves, illustrating how one should handle the disc by touching the inner label area and the outer edge. (Ha! If you revise all of your videos, I'll look for a time strip, promo copy, like new condition: Bob Dylan's first Columbia LP, first press with the "Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues.")
I got a stack of about 50 Korean and Japanese 70s records from an antique shop couple years back. I have an account on discogs so been adding them to the database but still have no idea what they are worth as most of them have never been sold. I have seen some Korean albums go as high as 1500 and others for 10. I know that these are quite rare but like you said only about 4 or 5 are in high demand. So would you say my best bet is to try to auction them off on ebay?
Awesome video Dylan! Always love seeing pieces from your collection....Did you end up getting rid of Lifun by Trubrot? Surprised you didn't show that one! Peace
You said it my brother, supply and demand, people can have the "rarest" records in the world, but if people ain't buying them, I mean, also, record collecting it's a weird trip, I've seen records go down in value like the ernie hines joint, you always see it for 100 to 100+, nowadays, I've seen them for as low as 50 to 60. Great video fam, record collecting it's a bottomless pit indeed..
My best find was Faintly Blowing by Kaleidoscope (. UK Division) a near mint copy in a charity shop in the 80’s for £3. Also some reissues are becoming really expensive now- Creation of Sunlight is $50+
I have well over 1000 records, a good majority being audiophile pressings, all much in mint condition, I Allways used high-end turntables and kept my stylus fresh but a lot of the records have that basement smell, how do you get rid of it?
Punkrock is my jam... I randomly look up some of my records on discogs, records I paid $15 for a few years ago are going for $100- $200 plus now...why? low press numbers, and people love their punkrock ;).. no idea how much my collection is worth, and that's fine with me, I play them nice and loud and I love them!
I have some albums which belonged to a man by the name of George Darveris and he has on some of his albums Columbia records radio station service NOT FOR SALE. So if the album has this are they worth more money? There are also stickers on some of his albums that say Columbia records 1962 for demonstration use only are they worth anything? Thanks
Sometimes it's the content. I visited a yard sale last summer put on by an older lady who wanted $10 for her Lawrence Welk LPs. I found two VG+ early Beatles LPs in her collection for a buck each. When I told her she should charge more for those she said she knew but didn't care for the Beatles as much as Lawrence Welk. I sold my copy of the Skynrd flames LP at my yard sale last summer for $15. The guy who bought it was ecstatic and couldn't believe I was selling it for such a low price. Actually, I had priced it high in anticipation of coming down to $10. LOL.
I got a copy of the Robert Ludwig pressing of Led Zeppelin II at Half Price Books in the clearance section for $1. Is it in amazing shape? No, it’s probably VG or so. But Good Plus copies still go for $50 on Discogs, and a Fair copy even sold for $10, so $1 for it is ridiculous! The oddest mispress I own is a copy of “Oh Good Grief!” by Vince Guaraldi. Side one is the Guaraldi as advertised, but side 2 is actually “Anthem Of The Sun” by the Grateful Dead. Both albums came out in 1968, and their catalog numbers are 2 apart - 1747 for the Guaraldi, 1749 for the Dead. Is it worth anything? Hell if I know, haven’t seen any mention of any other copy with that mispress, but it’s sure odd.
Great video, thanks for sharing your knowledge, very fun to collect these albums, I have a ?? For you, I heard but never saw ,it maybe a rumour, but , LED Zeppelin album presents, when it first came out, certain music stores gave away the black obolesic that is in every picture on the album, is this true?? Have you every seen one? I think the first 100 copies contained the plastic or wood pieces..
It depends. Some people prefer mono (Phil Spector, now in prison!) I may want both, because the sound of the original single, played on the radio, is what I remember, & the stereo version sounds 'different,' even if the quality of sound is better. It may be because one, or the other, is more rare. Very few James Brown albums, in Stereo, were produced. King Records. In the U S, Capitol made no mono copies of the Beatles' "White Album." But, in England, EMI did. If you had a choice, or simply wanted 'everything,' this mono copy would be collectable. And, with its number! And, there IS a difference in the music between the English stereo & mono copies. Not much, in a way, insignificant. But, enough for fans! (Fanatics!) The V J Beatles album - only a few, very few, V J Stereo copies. A clean copy of this (not a bootleg / counterfeit!) is great to have. In the late 60's when record companies began to eliminate mon pressings, because stereo ones were $1 more, & it was driving distributors nuts to have a number of different formants for the same album (mono LP. stereo LP, 4 track, 8 track, cassette, prerecorded reel to reel tape, 45 rpm singles). Elektra 'remaindered' the mono copies of The Doors first album, in the late 60's, sold them off cheap, but continued to press the Stereo copies. Today, I think that it would be nice to have a new (sealed?) mono copy, because it would be now unusual. If you could compare, you may find that the mono copy has better sound than the stereo version. Especially the "Electronically Reprocessed" 'Stereo' albums. Some of the early Rolling Stones 'Stereo' albums are a joke, sound bad, on London Records. There are expensive Beatles Box sets, CD & vinyl, stereo AND mono! CD reissues of Rolling Stones early LPs, mono & stereo! If you're rich, buy all and compare!
The Beatles did mono and stereo versions of tracks,so the mix is different and the track length is different.Completists want both.The Beatles stuck to mono beyond necessity,probably because they felt their core fanbase only had access to mono players.Also sound reproduction on mono records tends to be louder over the crackles.
You forgot to mention cover art such as for the Beatles butcher cover. Sometimes it can make a very big difference in the value even if the record pressing is the same but with a different cover.
The color on the label on the disc is important, sometimes. Capitol pressed Beatles LPs for many years, changed the color & designs on the disc labels every so often.
@@noblerecords Yeah, "controversial" covers that get pulled can be valuable, especially if they get pulled quickly. You mentioned the Street Survivors cover which, as you note, is not very rare after all (and I own a copy too), but of course the Beatles' "butcher" cover IS rare and worth a lot (I don't have one lol). I also have Moby Grape with Skip Spence flipping the bird on the cover (later airbrushed away), a copy of Stand signed by Sly, and probably one or two others of similar note, but I'm under no illusions that they're worth any serious money. You also mentioned the Led Zep album with a blank label on one side. I have a 1973 repress of The Fabulous Charlie Rich with a blank side 1 label. But, again, not a highly sought-after record (fine as it is) and probably not worth much.
I've got a copy of The Damned-Black Album that's mispressed and plays a Texas Rythm And Blues compilation instead. There's not too many out there apparently.
Do you play the really expensive records or do you just listen to a repress? I have “2nd State” Yesterday... And Today, and I play the record. I digitized it so I can hear it that way, but I really enjoy taking out the vinyl and giving it spin. I’ll be honest, I have an ATLP-60. I don’t plan on upgrading as I’m satisfied with the sound it produces. I want to listen to the record. It seems like it’s just taking up space if I don’t listen to it. Am I insane?
IfI find a record that is 40 or 50 years old, and it’s sealed, there’s little to no chance in Hell I’m gonna open it, I’m gonna sell it, or trade it, or just show it off!
Dillon, It is so funny I was just having an argument with a guy from my record store about price...It ticks me off that he looks at Discogs and eBay for his prices on records why can't he just price the records for what he paid and add a little more for overhead and stuff instead of charging what collectors pay isn't he in the selling business not collecting. Am I wrong? What does everyone else think should record store charges double or triple what they pay for a record??? Please I really want to know what you think.
Well, there’s a lot to it. Some months are better than others but there aren’t many Record store owners making a ton of money. I price conservatively, most people compliment the shop on its good prices, that being said, I price things below market value for the most part. I’ll kick you a scenario... I drive around for 6 weeks straight going to yard sales. I spend $100 in gas and only find 20 good records. If I bought them for $1 each and sold them for $2 each, it wouldn’t be worth it. You’re paying him a finders fee essentially. Lots of time and money are lost when you’re hunting records and collections, so when you get good records, you can’t just give them away, they help cover the tough times where we lose money. Otherwise whats to stop someone from coming in the shop, finding stuff for super cheap and flipping it on eBay. It’s difficult to explain, but finding good records cost more than just the price we paid for the record. Hope that makes sense.
If the whole world was coming into his store he might be able to operate as you suggest Unfortunately that isn't likely.He has to hope that the Queen rarity he spotted in someone's average 80's collection finds a willing buyer at,maybe #25.He's trading his knowledge.
my copy of The Police - Synchronicity doesn't have the red, blue and yellow color splashes across the cover. It is just black and white. Ive never seen this before. Is it a different pressing or just a printing error?
Great collection, but I'm just wondering - for instance - with the Blakey record - you pulled it out without an inner sleeve and had your hands on it. Doesn't that de-value the record? In any event - keep up the good work!
I noticed that too. I *never* store my records with the inner sleeve facing the opening. Too easy to fall out. This becomes like the toilet paper debate though.
I'm always curious about some of the hip hop records I have are worth especially alot of the records I have from the rawkus, fondle em and eastern conference since those labels are dead but alot of classic artists and amazing cover art
great video mang, hey i have a quick question about led zep 4, i have 3 copies and one of the inner gatefold is upside down from the other 2, is one more collectable than the other and which one would that be?
A lot of original copies are worth more because they had inserts or were in gatefold sleeves that the re issues don't have. A huge selling point for me.
@@noblerecords Yeah Dillon. I only discovered this a few days ago after I googled a few of these records that I had ignored in my collection for years!
Don't worry about how much your collection is worth, just enjoy the music.
Also you will never have the biggest or ultimate collection because it really is a bottomless pit. Almost every week you will come across something new and undiscovered.
AMEN! For me, the "Value" in the record is how long it took me to find it and where I found it. It's not monetary. It's in the hunt and it's purely subjective.
Well I guess that kind of depends a bit. I don't think people have to be consumed with value if it doesn't matter to them, but in many cases we tend to forget that there are many vinyl collectors who are "music fans" as well as "collectors". I mean there are so many people who like to collect rare coins, stamps, baseball cards, or a million other things were value/rarity are a key piece because they are collectors. I just always found it odd that vinyl record collectors are often "forbidden" from being collectors in the eyes of so many people.
I once had a friend who thought it was stupid that I had sealed records in my collection. He said...what is the point of having a sealed record if you don't listen to it. So my response to him was....would you tell a guy who has a baseball bat that was used in the last world series by his favorite team hanging on his wall..."What is the point of having a baseball bat if you don't play ball with it" or tell a stamp collector who has rare stamps "What is point of owning these stamps if you don't mail letters with them". LOL Finally my friend was able to see that there can two different aspect to record collecting. The love of the music and the collector joy of finding and owning valued collector pieces just like the baseball card or art collector.
true, but nearly every record collector - unless rich - finances his collection with dealing stuff
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i purchased a copy of the beatles yesterday and today at i think sears in 1966 or 1967 i was 14 at the time ! the boys with the plastic dolls i thought was cute!! i then took my new record to a beatles concert and my dad was able to take me back stage! i was so excited to meet the boys and asked them to sign my new record! they all agreed and i was the happiest kid ever !!! i wonder if my like new signed by all the boys record is worth something?? i dont think i would sell it ... mary
another reason: records released in the 90s are more rare because vinyl was such a niche at the time
Yeah this one threw me for a loop, after all my collecting of original records from the 60s my 1991 US pressing of Slint - Spiderland remains my most valuable one according to discogs.
Yup and that is when I started my collection :)...Discogs says my collection is worth $$
My jaw dropped when I found a 1997 pressing of Squirrel Bait's self-titled 12" EP in a tiny record store selling mostly 50s/60s records. I thought it would be worth a ton but apparently Squirrel Bait is quite unpopular compared to their contemporaries like Fugazi.
In the 90s, sealed new vinyl was just so rare, you grabbed it. I saw new vinyl so seldom, I always wondered why they would bother pressing so little.. Right now, I'm making a living selling records I bought as recently as 2012. Even some recent stuff is worth huge money, cause the band has since become famous, but 10 years ago, they only pressed 500 or whatever. I just sold a band called Blue October vinyl called Sway, not even 10 years old for $400. I bought all these indie bands vinyl and I was working 80 hours a week, so I never had a chance to open and play them. Now that I have the time, I'm terrified to open them, cause I'm finding out I'm sitting on a small fortune lol
The Master Of Reality album on Vertigo also had a folded poster inside...It hung on my wall as a teenager in '71...
Damm bro turn up the volume I rocked hard in the early 70's I'm 63 now.
At the record store I work at, we bought this giant collection of records. Ad there was some good, somewhat valuable things in there. And yet the most valuable thing in the collection was a dog training record, that on average was about 150 dollars on discogs. No clue why it was worth that much, but it still gave us a good laugh.
Yeah you kinda never know 🤣
That's pretty nuts lol
More people interested in Dogs than interested in records
Like Noble Man said, maybe it's valuable by some for sampling or DJ work, even if not for drum brakes maybe some sound from the dogs, ha ha.
Very spot on video. Here’s my example. I have 3 vinyl copies of Black Sabbath Vol.4 - one of my favourite albums of all time. I have owned 4. My first was around 1976 when I was 15. It was the gatefold with the booklet which I played on my parents’ system off a Goldring Lenco deck through Scan-Dyna speakers. Tastes changed I needed money and it was sold. Maybe 5 years later bought a Nems label copy for maybe £2 -creased sleeve but vinyl fine: sound quality godawful which I then assumed had always been the case. Fast forward and I bought a Universal gatefold release with the booklet kind of half reproduced on the inner sleeve with some history. Made for the resurgent vinyl market and (playing this copy now via Rega deck, Creek Destiny amp and Epos speakers) clearly ‘mastered’ from digital sources and still flat. Then 3 years ago I was in Birmingham, England and toured the record shops. At Swordfish Records was a 1st press of Vol.4! Woo. Not only that it was mint. Guy in the shop said ‘we see hundreds of these but they are almost always bashed up and scratched’. Well being careful with records wasn’t really the way: taking them to parties, skinning up on them, dropping them, drunk people skating needles over them etc. But this was peachy. I paid £80. I had my youth back at a price. BUT even better when I put it on the LP I had come to think was crapily recorded it was actually a total musical production and pressing MONSTER. Worth every pound spent :) Now I’m taking this Universal release off and playing the real deal...
@8:01 Fairport Convention UnHalfbricking - wow flashback time for me!
I have a friend that would scour thrift stores, junk shops, yard sales and antique shops looking for strange private pressed gospel albums. In particular, albums that had some of the most gaudy looking cover photos. He would either sell or trade them to a few private collectors for good profit. What a few of these private collectors considered valuable is something most people would probably not spend a quarter for. I enjoyed this video Dillon. Hope you can reopen the store soon. Thanks...
Thanks man!
Added or deleted songs from various pressings can make a big difference. The first version of the KISS' first vinyl did not have "Kissing Time" on it and it is worth considerably more than one with it. If you have one without it, you have a first pressing. If you one with it, then you have a second + pressing. I might be wrong, but based on what I read, I think I am correct.
You right. That’s a tough one to find, I’ve have a few over the years
@@noblerecords A rare Kiss Self titled is one with a pink promo Warner Brothers sticker on it. Warner Brothers distributed Casablanca for a very short time.
Hey bud, you're clear, you're concise, you've got visual examples - you're a great resource for newbies and engaging for those in the middle of the pack (like me). You're doing a great service for the hobby/biz!
I have in my possession a flawless copy of the Atom Heart Mother vinyl. Purple Capitol labels, US release. It showed up with no sleeve or jacket! Someone out there might be looking for a vinyl upgrade. How would you price such a piece given rarity, condition, but lack of packaging?
I found a copy of elvis moody blue on black vinyl at a flea market for 2$ and i have the skynyrd flames cover on 8-track lol.
Fab.Good luck finding a machine to play it on.
“This is not a mono copy this is a stereo copy. You can tell by the big stereo letters” 😂😂Yup, prolly not payin’ off the house with that one today Sparky…
Thing is some records were stereo,but labelled mono.Not sure about the other way around.
I appreciate this a lot. I used to work at a record store and had to field a lot of the same questions and scenarios. No, Elvis records usually aren't worth a ton. No, that Street Survivors isn't particularly rare.
One thing I would tell people is that typically local stuff is what we would like them to bring in. If they had a friend who was in a Garage band in the 60s and pressed a few 45s, we'd like to see it and not the beat up Sgt. Peppers album. (Boy, the amount of times people would try to sell us beat up copies of that record for 50 dollars is too much)
It's pretty simple, it's just supply and demand. If they're a huge selling artist like the Beatles or Michael Jackson, more likely than not it's not some crazy expensive thing.
i have a Yes close to the edge with a plain atlantic label on one side, UK copy. i also have over 50 vertigo swirl LPs, amix of UK and OZ pressings and a few US, some of them are worth a bit too, and i went nuts on australian progressive and blues rock so i have a lot of rare early 70s aussie stuff...lately im getting into UK progressive jazz....;keith Tippet, Ian Carr, Nucleus, mike westbrook ,michael Garrick,mike gibbs,neil ardley, bloody great music! pretty hard to find too and sometimes expensive, but i love vinyl and i love to have my fave stuff on vinyl.
Great video again Dillon. You're right about drum breaks- that's a whole underworld of collecting, like library records. Hard to navigate. My signed og Highway 61 by Bob Dylan is worth a lot- super rare. But that is an exception like you said. Most autographs aren't worth a great deal. You're getting a lot of hits for these videos: keeping it interesting and fast moving- the perfect combination! Cheers, Alan
Thanks man!
A couple of general comments:
1. Ultra-rare and valuable records with condition problems can definitely be worth a lot, particularly if the problem is limited. I have a MoFi Help! that has a scratch across just one track - if a NM copy is $200, mine is probably $40-50. Also, old mono jazz records sometimes play much better than they look, particularly with an expensive mono cartridge.
2. There are a lot of strange fads - Dillon didn't even mention Northern Soul, which I really don't get. In the classical world, I once observed a crazy fad for 7" singles with picture sleeves by boy sopranos - it lasted about six months. The records sold for up to $500 on eBay.
3. Strange legal battles can really move the market. In the BritFolk world, everyone knows that when Bill Leader went bankrupt, someone bought the rights to his catalog, but never reissued any of the records, nor will they allow anyone else to do so. This means that the entire Nic Jones oeuvre is unavailable in any format, spiking prices. In classical, Urania famously issued a Furtwangler Beethoven Symphony #3, but then got sued by Furtwangler and had to recall the record - there are very few of those around.
Very good points! Yes of course northern soul. I also didn’t mention blues 78s 🤷♂️ tried to keep it simple
You also forgot in the classical genre the original shade dog living stereo RCA victor pressing of witch's brew i forget the composer and symphony. I found a near mint copy at a goodwill for 75 cents lol
the street survivors album with all the inserts can go for more than $20 easily because most of them aren't complete. But you're right the black album cover which is just the back of the album cover blown up seems to be more rare than the flames. It's just an interesting story surrounding the album. Ronnie Van Zant, Steve Gaines, Cassie Gaines and Dean Kilpatrick are the people with the band who died in the crash. It's amazing more people didn't die.. the plane wasn't a tiny plane at all. I know some of the survivors and even have a tiny piece of the plane cut out into a guitar pick one of them gave me. It's a bit weird but since one of the survivors gave it to me I will cherish it in my collection of music history items. Another thing to note the plane ran out of gas so there was no fire which is why they all didn't die but the Gaines family wanted the cover changed because Steve is engulfed in flames on the cover of the album. Lynyrd Skynyrd was one of the most popular band in the WORLD at the time not just the US when that plane went down. Had that plane not gone down they would be remembered so much differently it's a shame they don't get the credit they deserve. No thanks to the guys who still tour under the name doesn't help their legacy at all. These guys were amazing and deserve more recognition for the music they made. I'll leave it at that because I could go all day :)
That Lynrd Skynrd album can safely be used as a coaster or oil catch under your old car.
BLASPHEMY! ;-)
for me, the wonderful thing about music / collecting is the continual stream of new stuff - old stuff but not heard / newly discovered ... it's like finding a new seam of gold in the ground
anyhow, i joined a thred on Twitter just last week and someone cited a classical LP worth £600 / $800 + - and so i did a bit of research and discovered a few other LPs worth £100 + and because i do boot fairs (people in a field selling old stuff) i will keep my eyes open - along with the gold buyers and antique dealers etc etc .... amazing what comes out tbh - i bought some lovely early 70s funk just last week .... but my main point (and i stand to be corrected) is that said classical LPs were all from the same label and all 1958 - 1960 ish ... the point being they all had stereo written in large letters along the top of the front covers
i thought stereo began in 1962 - hence that first Beatles LP being worth a shed load of cash ... and maybe these LPs were for a certain market ie people with a lot of money to spend on stereo equipment when everyone else bought mono
just googled it and sure enough - 1954 - first records sold were 1958 - hence the value ... and it dates to earlier in other formats as well
Sometimes with really obscure stuff, it's hard to tell what will have any value. Sometimes the weirdest records that no one would bat an eye at if they saw in a flea market, end up being worth like 200 bucks for some reason.
Thanks, Dillon, for another great vid. I co-run a small record store in Tasmania, Australia (Suffragette Records - started August ‘22) selling only music by women, and it’s been a steep learning curve to understand some of the factors that influence value. I like to guess the median Discogs price before I look it up. I’m getting better at it, but sometimes the record throws a price-curveball at ya!
We also have a location-specific scarcity factor in Australia - plenty of Australian pressings but US pressings are uncommon. So, that influences my pricing somewhat.
I have a copy of Alice Cooper’s “Killer” on red vinyl but the metal parts that were used were for the “Easy Action” album. And “Easy Action” had the metal parts for the “Killer” album. One of the biggest cockups I’ve seen in my time collecting. Not sure what the market is like for those kinda niche pressing but out of the rare weirdo records I have, those are definitely it. I started to lose belief years ago that the original cover for “Street Survivors” was so rare because I would see OG copies in dollar bins and such. Plus when you use the cover for reissues and such, that can somewhat diminish the value. Very informative video Dillion, cheers!
Always enjoy your videos! You know your stuff! 👍👍
the Led Zepp NZ Houses of the Holy. Similar thing for the NZ Bowie Hunky Dory release being a different sleeve to the usual release in that the back picture was used on both back and front as they couldn't get the artwork to NZ in time, Did the same happen for Houses i wonder ?.
In the punk/hardcore world, there are often limited pressings on small labels that just don’t exist anymore. If there has never been a reissue it can be quite expensive. Especially if the band got famous later on a major label (Jimmy Eat World, Nirvana etc) or if they grew a cult audience by word of mouth after they broke up (Indian Summer, Teen Idols, SOA etc).
A current white whale for me is the first album by the band The Plot To Blow Up The Eiffel Tower. First record had small pressings and discogs only shows 2 VG+ copies from Germany for over 70 bucks, even though they were an obscure San Diego punk band that existed from 2003 to 2006.
Good overview. Records are similar to all commodities, if you know what you are doing minimal money expenditure can get you a great collection. If you don't you can spend tens of thousands and end up with a nasty heap of sound pollution.
Pieces of a Man, on your shelf, is a good one to discuss. Easily found for a few dollars back in the 80's, 90's, now is it nearer a $100. That's a great album. But you can find many that went from a few bucks to hundreds that are average or poor. So many factors. Fashion, hype, conformity, gullibility, etc.
Duke Ellington at the Grand old Oprey is my second favorite album, next to Jerry Lee Lewis at the Apollo.
Never heard the Apollo album, but always loved the Star Club album.
Original James Gang Rides Again look for on one side the smooth area before the label has etched numbers also "Love from Jessica" written there also. Joe Walsh's Barnstorm also has "Thats No Banana Thats My Nose" There is another I forget which.
Last year I sold the first pressing of Street Survivors with insets and all MINT for $68. I believe at the time at least that was the most it had ever sold for.
I sold a sealed one for $75. You did real good.
I have so much respect for you because you have Pieces of a Man in the background. One of my Favorite LP's ever.
My Father in Law brought a crate of 78's home one day that he had picked up from an friend who was throwing them away. He was all happy thinking that since they were old, they would be worth a lot of money and that he could sell them a buy a new car. I researched the titles for him and had to tell him that the most expensive record he had out of the 30 records was only worth about $12. All the others were worth only $1 - $3 dollars.
Awesome vid, man. Right on the money, figuratively and literally speaking. “I’ve got all these Elvis record at home” lol! I just sold a truly NM 1st copy of Metallica’s “RTL” on Megaforce from ‘84 for $300. I could’ve held out for more, but I could tell the guy really wanted it, and felt it was gonna truly get a great new home, although it was difficult to give up. I’ll NEVER see a cleaner copy. I shouldn’t say that, cuz this is record collecting, buying, and selling we’re talking about after all.
That’s awesome!
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Thanks, Dillon.
Still in the shrink with a $7.99 price tag on it. I’d had it since the 90’s.
In a niche case like that of Vee Jay records, a disorganized, desperate label can skyrocket value decades later when they have content from a band like...The Beatles. I have a Stereo Ad Back of Introducing the Beatles in a Sears and Roebucks baggie...put out that way because the label wanted to rush the album out and therefore neglected track listings on the back slick. I spotted one in the wild at an Oregon record shop a couple years ago. Paid several thousand for it and folks, looking at the album’s selling history it was still a steal.
I've been looking for a still-sealed or near mint copy of the Uniques lp, "Happening--Now!!" Paula LP/LPS-2194, issued in 1967. Some used copies on eBay are being sold for under $100.00, but there is a still sealed copy (can't tell if it's mono or stereo) for $499.99. That's well beyond my price range. The seller provides free shipping, which doen't really thrill me.
I purchased several albums while I was in the Air Force 1970-1974, assigned duty in Turkey, then England. The base exchange stores stocked lp's pressed mostly from Germany, Netherlands and UK. In some cases jacket design and music content are identical to US pressings, and some are different. Generally speaking is there a value difference between US and foreign pressings?
I have a Foghat - Fool for the City - pressing that has a blank label on side one. Has the right music, right label, just nothing printed on the label. - I also have The Beatles - Revolver record with the right music, but is mislabeled with the Rubber Soul label on both sides. (Reissue from 2012)
This was a good one!! We would get people coming into the antque shop with stuff thats not worth anything and think its worth $$$$ its something their mom or dad at at sears in the 70s and is just not an antque. Take care man
Some of those pressing errors are crazy. I have a Ryan Adams- Heartbreaker Record that the second LP is Edward Sharpe and The Magnetic zeros but has the Heartbreaker label on it.
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Ha! That’s funny!
@@noblerecords As we know, anything can & has happened in the music / record business. Including mistakes / errors. Dunhill (The Mamas & The Papas) pumped out the hits, and had poorer quality control than Columbia, RCA or Capitol. When a pressing plant 'has' to get the 'product' out, no matter what, when units delivered is the priority, quality control can slip.
Fun stuff. Like your videos cause they are various types and styles of music. I do the Austin record shows and think you are more in line with the supply/demand aspect of the trade. Especially like your enthusiasm about the music and a little background on the artists.
Thank you!!!
A lot of good stuff here! When I was first looking into getting into this hobby and collecting I knew there was one album I had to have- ...Is a Real Boy by Say Anything. Favorite album from my all time favorite band. They were an underground emo/alt-rock band that had maybe one or two hit songs in 2004 before falling off the radar, couldnt be that hard or expensive to find right? Cheapest I've been able to find so far is $250, maybe 4 or 5 copies total. I checked discogs like you mentioned and it turns out there were 4 pressings of the album in large quantities so (to my understanding but I could be wrong, still new) it wasnt really that rare. Absolutely blows my mind that its that much 16 years later when Ive barely been able to find anyone else who listens to them
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I have that Skynyrd Street survivors album and it still has the insert in it for the tour dates.
If it’s the flame cover it’s worth millions :)
My favourite album of all time
I had a question and I hope it is not too dumb of a question: He mentioned that if you put a record in that condition (that of the Led Zeppelin record) on your turntable there's a good chance it'll mess up your needle. Does anyone know how true this may be? I have a lot of records in similar condition that don't skip but with just tons of background noise which I just choose to live with until I can replace those specific records. Do they damage your needle or am I okay to play those? I didn't think they did but anyone let me know thanks!
That’s a great question, your needle takes a beating with records like that. The needle is made to ride a smooth groove, when you hear pops and ticks, those are interruptions in the groove. A few here in there isn’t a big deal but over time, you’ll loose definition in your needle. If you have a cheap needle it’s not a huge deal, but it’s technically bad for the needle.
I definitely agree with you on that.Enjoy your music.
I have an odd WB pressing of the first America album I discovered from my days in radio in the 80's. The America jacket & labels are all correct as is the music on side one but side two is 'Killer' from Alice Cooper, who was also on WB. I had just put this new copy in the studio and the first to play it on-air was a part-time DJ working our softer rock Sunday morning show. She cued it up on the first note only and ended up playing 'Dead Babies' instead of what she thought would be some America track. It's a funny story...now. Still have it in my collection.
I know that we all bought Street Survivor as soon as it was released and it was damn near worn out by the time they re-released it. But I gotta say..... My exes best friend borrowed our copy and never returned it. My ex has never forgotten it. He was also a tyrant about 45's. If you didn't listen to the album at our house, you didn't get to listen. He assured me that if I liked one song that I would like them all. I do thank him for teaching me to appreciate great music. Led Zepplin, Pink Floyd, and Jethro Tull were his favorites.
I figured out you outbid me for a record/ Toto kingdom of desire / my copy is well a little noisy maybe a little more than noisy / You kinda remind me of well me / love your enthusiasm and videos/ if I end up in Carolina I will look you up!
I was always told the the Robert Ludwig mastered LP was worth so much was because it was a " hot pressing". but I am not really sure just what that means.
ps how much was the first Stooges original LP worth ?
I’ve always heard it’s a loud mix, master, and pressing - louder than other pressings. So much so that people back in 1969 who used inferior turntables and styli found their equipment simply couldn’t handle the hot mix’s volume in the grooves and it skipped and/or sounded distorted to them. They returned it at at such a clip that Atlantic repressed it. However, it turns out that it’s just a loud mix that plays just fine on today’s turntables and gear and sounds fantastic with Robert Ludwig’s hot mix.
Love Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers.
I had to smile when you showed the Zep album with the blank label. I have a German pressing of KISS: Best Of The Solo Albums with a blank label on one side.
I also own that Skynyrd album with the original cover ! Had it from new
Yeah me to, thought it was worth a little better than $20. Huh
Great videos. I've been collecting Lps ect since 12 yrs old. 65 now and still have most. Wanted to ask about a Pink Floyd 'Dark Side Of The Moon' lp I have with 3 full size posters included. I searched and still have never seen another. Most I believe just have 2. Any thoughts? Thanks ✌
There are current imports with one or more posters. You MAY have a unique issue, with more than 2 posters. I have a Pink Floyd Flag, and a Pink Floyd plastic bag with handles, to carry - only! - Pink Floyd albums. These, and at times, Pink Floyd posters are sold separately. Can you verify that these posters came with your album? Perhaps (small) consistent identification numbers, on the items. Does Dillon carry English import albums? Is your album an import? I'd be surprised if Capitol put in 3 posters. The imports sound better than the Capitols, made in the U S. For example, other Capitol artist complained, at the time, that in the 60's, they couldn't have their albums pressed, because Capitol has its own plants, and focused on the exceptional demand for Beatles pressings. Wanda Jackson, for example. Capitol has good quality control, but not 100% perfect. EMI British pressings sound better; the London U S Rolling Stones early albums are terrible, compared to the imports, for example! I purchased my (contemporary) Pink Floyd LPs from oldies.com, and ccmusic.com "The Dark Side Of The Moon" is one of the largest selling LPs in history, and may still hold the record (so to speak!) as being on the Billboard Top 200 albums for the longest time, years & years! My tastes are quite eclectic; years ago, "Johnny's Greatest Hits," Johnny Mathis, held this distinction, being on the charts for, I think, over 10 years! At least, "The Dark Side of the Moon," is a great LP to listen to! Years from now (I hope!) when I 'check out,' "The Dark Side of the Moon" will continue to be in print, & I'll have to give my records to Dillon! Great Guy! (Little known fact: Mr. Smith spells his first name, correctly! Bob has always, misspelled HIS name!)
That inside of the gatefold on the cover of the jacket is sooo RADD
An that blank side on the other side of the other houses of the holy made me laugh that's great😂😂
Speaking of skynyrd I have a copy of pronounced that I thought wasn’t worth anything because I figured it was common and the cover isn’t in good shape. Turns out it’s an original yellow label and the record itself is near mint, and they sell for a decent amount on discogs. Enjoyed the video a lot!
What label is this on? ABC? Had a yellow label, at times. First press.
I was at a pawn shop one time that I knew had records and just wanted to see if I could get lucky. I found a Led Zeppelin II RL Mix that was absolutely COOKED and had no cover, you hate to see it.
I was attending the Navy Nuclear Power School in Vallejo, California when I purchased Led Zep II. The thing was, it was 'cut' very loudly, & skipped on my turntable. It did have more 'punch' & a better signal - to - noise ratio. I later replaced it, & it had been remastered, much lower volume. The first issue must of had a lot of returns. I did 'research' and later purchased the Shure V - 15 series cartridges, because they had more 'trackability' - were designed to navigate loudly mastered records. For example, the Styx, "Paradise Theater" album, A & M, is cut very loud, but didn't skip on my then equipment. I thought that it was distorted, didn't have to be mastered as loudly as it had been. Was very successful, though.
Great videos, getting back into records, after a LONG break!
A lot of great info there Dillon. Been watching your videos and just subscribed and just a couple of clarifications. I believe records MUST be both play and visually graded as some blemishes like swirl marks can not be heard on some systems and it all has to do with what stylus you have on your cart. Many older LP's from the 50's and 60's were played with carts that had a conical stylus on them and were not changed out as often as they should and thus were ragged and caused damage to the grooves, but put it on a table with say, an elliptical stylus and the damage nay not be heard despite the swirl marks say.
An example, about 15 years ago, I bought a copy of Night Lights, Jerry Mulligan and it's the original Phillips stereo pressing from 1963 and at the store where I bought it in Seattle, it played fine and even with a cantiwampus cantilever on the record player, of which I think was a bottom feeding Technics from the late 70's or some such and again, it played fine.
Got it home and crackle city, mistracking on my table. It was my cart it turned out being not aligned anywhere close to correctly but now, it plays pretty cleanly in so far as mistracking goes.
But sometimes you get lucky with an album. One store here in Tacoma where I live now, they guy had a good, but not stellar condition copy of Kind of Blue by Miles Davis, mono, Columbia 6-eye that had a sticker of $30, I also picked up an original Portrait pressing of Dog and Butterfly by Heart (with a slight warp, but clean otherwise) that went for $15 and wound up paying also $15 for Kind of Blue! Also, it turned out to be a fairly early pressing as one, the label for side 2 was corrected (the two track titles were originally reversed) and other factors revealed it was pressed after Nov 1959 (date of correction) and before 1961 when CBS bought Columbia and the CBS nomenclature was placed at the 12:00 position on the label for 1961-62 until the 2-eye labels came out. It's not perfect as far as clean playing goes (it's mono too, they seem to find me even though I don't look for them specifically) but I'm sure most of that will be gone with a good cleaning. :-)
And finally, an original pressing in good shape, LP AND cover of Workingman's Dead by the Grateful dean, on the olive green WB label, with a mistake on the cover that clues in that it was an early press, the back tip art was pasted upside down! Found it in the bargain bins for $13 locally last year. The only issue with the cover was a light bend on one corner, but intact otherwise.
I often find this album and some of their earlier LP's with split covers going as high as $25 or so for less than good condition for the cover at least.
But KOB is very common so it'll never sell for a huge amount. Early Blue Note records issued, and pressed between 1956-1966 are often worth big bucks as many never sold much more than 80K copies initially but often can be had for way less as a reissue. A case in point, Whistle Stop by Kenny Dorham (1961) has sold for as high as $600-1000, according to Popsyke but a UA/BN reissue can be had in near mint condition for $40 as that's how I got my copy, a late 70's most likely white B pressing, and it'd been sitting in the racks for about a year before I purchased it for $40. That was a couple of years ago now. It's fairly common knowledge that if you don't have a huge wad of bread in your pocket, for years the Liberty/UA reissues of many older BN records are often the best reissues to get, though BN, the current BN70, BN80 and Tone Poet are some of the best out there currently as reissues. I have the tone poet pressing of Lee Morgan's Cornbread (1967), a fantastic album and well worth the $35 price of admission for it. The same for the BN80 reissue of Jutta Hipp/Zoot Sims LP from 1956 is well worth the price of admission at $24.99, both mastered by Kevin Gray.
Anyway, keep it up and hope you can survive and reopen. I'm hoping my local record stores survive too and next weekend when I get paid, will throw come cash to one in particular here locally to help them along a little.
Demand plays a much bigger part in a records resale value than rarity. As detailed in the video you can find some mega rare private pressings where only 99 copies were pressed that you can’t even sell for £10, meanwhile for example Iron Maiden lp’s that were manufactured in the 10’s of 1000’s if NM or unplayed and they’re originals not modern reissues then you can get a decent’ish price. Great video.
I wouldn't mind the son house album myself.
What effect do reissues have on value of 1st pressings? It can create exposure but do collectors need that original copy? Sometimes in comics these reissues are actually a lot nicer quality, but that's a whole other story.
I have that Duke Ellington album & the play bill for the live in Newport concert. My Big Question is This: I ordered Adele 30 album online and I got it for a really good deal for $15 bucks . Everybody else was selling it for $35-$40 by accident I ordered two of them. So I took one to my local record store near me & he scanned it & said it's only worth $15. I did find one in his bit for $38 Why?? I know he has to make money but why was the one I bought so cheap & others are so expensive??
How about Herb Alpert "Whipped Cream and Other Delights"? I'm new to vinyl collecting and I paid $100 for a vg+ copy
Dillon - You are a Great Guy! Really Great! Nothing to point out! Except: PLEASE do not touch the vinyl surface, with your fingers! A sensitive, high quality, light tracking stylus / cartridge, CAN pick this up! Especially noticeable. with a low level intro, but a wide frequency range system, especially at loud volume, can reveal this under any circumstance! There is a small 'lead in' area, but it's hard to not touch the music area, as this is narrow. I enjoy your videos (If you listen to me, I may have to give you a early press of Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" with the genitalia on the cover! The dogs, NOT David's! Though this last, would be more valuable!) I enjoy your videos, but wince every time that you pull out an 'undressed' record, with your fingers! Please use a Vinyl Styl Archival Quality Inner Sleeve, or, perhaps better yet, the MoFi, Mobile Fidelity 'Non-Scratching, Anti Static.' You can see the disc through the non opaque, transparent side. Well worth it, for a clean copy of any real note! Some of us actually PLAY a few of the discs we collect, not just talk about them! There are pictures on old Columbia & RCA paper inner sleeves, illustrating how one should handle the disc by touching the inner label area and the outer edge. (Ha! If you revise all of your videos, I'll look for a time strip, promo copy, like new condition: Bob Dylan's first Columbia LP, first press with the "Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues.")
I got a stack of about 50 Korean and Japanese 70s records from an antique shop couple years back. I have an account on discogs so been adding them to the database but still have no idea what they are worth as most of them have never been sold. I have seen some Korean albums go as high as 1500 and others for 10. I know that these are quite rare but like you said only about 4 or 5 are in high demand. So would you say my best bet is to try to auction them off on ebay?
Awesome video Dylan! Always love seeing pieces from your collection....Did you end up getting rid of Lifun by Trubrot? Surprised you didn't show that one! Peace
I don’t have that one! Never did! I wish!
Huh.....maybe you showed a picture of it in one of your videos then....Heard about it from your channel, that album is so tasty but so pricey lol
Plus also depends which country you are in
Does not having inner sleeves damage the disc?
Would you say that Ellington's Shellac records are worth something?
Love the Skynyrd info. Bought the Survivors LP when it came out ($8?), sold it around 1990 for $100. Not too shabby.....
You got great taste in music man I see that peter green Fleetwood Mac album behind you
You said it my brother, supply and demand, people can have the "rarest" records in the world, but if people ain't buying them, I mean, also, record collecting it's a weird trip, I've seen records go down in value like the ernie hines joint, you always see it for 100 to 100+, nowadays, I've seen them for as low as 50 to 60. Great video fam, record collecting it's a bottomless pit indeed..
My best find was Faintly Blowing by Kaleidoscope (. UK Division) a near mint copy in a charity shop in the 80’s for £3. Also some reissues are becoming really expensive now- Creation of Sunlight is $50+
Kaleidoscope was a good buy. Got to be worth £4-500 or so.
I have well over 1000 records, a good majority being audiophile pressings, all much in mint condition, I Allways used high-end turntables and kept my stylus fresh but a lot of the records have that basement smell, how do you get rid of it?
What are matrix numbers, mono, and stereo?
Punkrock is my jam... I randomly look up some of my records on discogs, records I paid $15 for a few years ago are going for $100- $200 plus now...why? low press numbers, and people love their punkrock ;).. no idea how much my collection is worth, and that's fine with me, I play them nice and loud and I love them!
Just starting getting into jazz records….immediately Art Blakey and Hank Mobley stood out above the rest
I have some albums which belonged to a man by the name of George Darveris and he has on some of his albums Columbia records radio station service NOT FOR SALE. So if the album has this are they worth more money? There are also stickers on some of his albums that say Columbia records 1962 for demonstration use only are they worth anything? Thanks
Usually promos are worth more, yes
Sometimes it's the content. I visited a yard sale last summer put on by an older lady who wanted $10 for her Lawrence Welk LPs. I found two VG+ early Beatles LPs in her collection for a buck each. When I told her she should charge more for those she said she knew but didn't care for the Beatles as much as Lawrence Welk. I sold my copy of the Skynrd flames LP at my yard sale last summer for $15. The guy who bought it was ecstatic and couldn't believe I was selling it for such a low price. Actually, I had priced it high in anticipation of coming down to $10. LOL.
Did it have the inserts?
I got a copy of the Robert Ludwig pressing of Led Zeppelin II at Half Price Books in the clearance section for $1. Is it in amazing shape? No, it’s probably VG or so. But Good Plus copies still go for $50 on Discogs, and a Fair copy even sold for $10, so $1 for it is ridiculous!
The oddest mispress I own is a copy of “Oh Good Grief!” by Vince Guaraldi. Side one is the Guaraldi as advertised, but side 2 is actually “Anthem Of The Sun” by the Grateful Dead. Both albums came out in 1968, and their catalog numbers are 2 apart - 1747 for the Guaraldi, 1749 for the Dead. Is it worth anything? Hell if I know, haven’t seen any mention of any other copy with that mispress, but it’s sure odd.
Wow - that's a weird one!
I have a copy of Houses of the Holy that has a Crosby Still and Nash label on side 2. I wonder if something went haywire with that batch?
Thanks for the info
I have a Original Master Recording The Chicago Transit Authority
Is it worth anything?
Great video, thanks for sharing your knowledge, very fun to collect these albums, I have a ?? For you, I heard but never saw ,it maybe a rumour, but , LED Zeppelin album presents, when it first came out, certain music stores gave away the black obolesic that is in every picture on the album, is this true?? Have you every seen one? I think the first 100 copies contained the plastic or wood pieces..
That’s not true. There were a very limited supply of “objects” that were given to executives I believe but they are very rare.
Can you go into why mono is a good thing on old records when we have nice stereo's?
It depends. Some people prefer mono (Phil Spector, now in prison!) I may want both, because the sound of the original single, played on the radio, is what I remember, & the stereo version sounds 'different,' even if the quality of sound is better. It may be because one, or the other, is more rare. Very few James Brown albums, in Stereo, were produced. King Records. In the U S, Capitol made no mono copies of the Beatles' "White Album." But, in England, EMI did. If you had a choice, or simply wanted 'everything,' this mono copy would be collectable. And, with its number! And, there IS a difference in the music between the English stereo & mono copies. Not much, in a way, insignificant. But, enough for fans! (Fanatics!) The V J Beatles album - only a few, very few, V J Stereo copies. A clean copy of this (not a bootleg / counterfeit!) is great to have. In the late 60's when record companies began to eliminate mon pressings, because stereo ones were $1 more, & it was driving distributors nuts to have a number of different formants for the same album (mono LP. stereo LP, 4 track, 8 track, cassette, prerecorded reel to reel tape, 45 rpm singles). Elektra 'remaindered' the mono copies of The Doors first album, in the late 60's, sold them off cheap, but continued to press the Stereo copies. Today, I think that it would be nice to have a new (sealed?) mono copy, because it would be now unusual. If you could compare, you may find that the mono copy has better sound than the stereo version. Especially the "Electronically Reprocessed" 'Stereo' albums. Some of the early Rolling Stones 'Stereo' albums are a joke, sound bad, on London Records. There are expensive Beatles Box sets, CD & vinyl, stereo AND mono! CD reissues of Rolling Stones early LPs, mono & stereo! If you're rich, buy all and compare!
The Beatles did mono and stereo versions of tracks,so the mix is different and the track length is different.Completists want both.The Beatles stuck to mono beyond necessity,probably because they felt their core fanbase only had access to mono players.Also sound reproduction on mono records tends to be louder over the crackles.
You forgot to mention cover art such as for the Beatles butcher cover.
Sometimes it can make a very big difference in the value even if the record pressing is the same but with a different cover.
I feel like that would fall under “rare editions” I spoke about, but good point!
The color on the label on the disc is important, sometimes. Capitol pressed Beatles LPs for many years, changed the color & designs on the disc labels every so often.
@@noblerecords Yeah, "controversial" covers that get pulled can be valuable, especially if they get pulled quickly. You mentioned the Street Survivors cover which, as you note, is not very rare after all (and I own a copy too), but of course the Beatles' "butcher" cover IS rare and worth a lot (I don't have one lol). I also have Moby Grape with Skip Spence flipping the bird on the cover (later airbrushed away), a copy of Stand signed by Sly, and probably one or two others of similar note, but I'm under no illusions that they're worth any serious money.
You also mentioned the Led Zep album with a blank label on one side. I have a 1973 repress of The Fabulous Charlie Rich with a blank side 1 label. But, again, not a highly sought-after record (fine as it is) and probably not worth much.
and sometimes you can even put them on yr turntable and enjoy them..woo hoo..
I've got a copy of The Damned-Black Album that's mispressed and plays a Texas Rythm And Blues compilation instead. There's not too many out there apparently.
Do you play the really expensive records or do you just listen to a repress?
I have “2nd State” Yesterday... And Today, and I play the record. I digitized it so I can hear it that way, but I really enjoy taking out the vinyl and giving it spin. I’ll be honest, I have an ATLP-60. I don’t plan on upgrading as I’m satisfied with the sound it produces. I want to listen to the record. It seems like it’s just taking up space if I don’t listen to it. Am I insane?
I play every record I have. In my opinion there’s no point in having it if you don’t play it
Noble Records Thanks, I agree with you totally.
IfI find a record that is 40 or 50 years old, and it’s sealed, there’s little to no chance in Hell I’m gonna open it, I’m gonna sell it, or trade it, or just show it off!
@@paint1955 I collect those, too.
One RSD record I got few yrs ago, Jay Electronica "Exhibit A + C" picture disc I paid $25. Discogs sellers are asking over $200. WTF???
I love that track
Dillon, It is so funny I was just having an argument with a guy from my record store about price...It ticks me off that he looks at Discogs and eBay for his prices on records why can't he just price the records for what he paid and add a little more for overhead and stuff instead of charging what collectors pay isn't he in the selling business not collecting. Am I wrong? What does everyone else think should record store charges double or triple what they pay for a record??? Please I really want to know what you think.
Well, there’s a lot to it. Some months are better than others but there aren’t many Record store owners making a ton of money. I price conservatively, most people compliment the shop on its good prices, that being said, I price things below market value for the most part. I’ll kick you a scenario... I drive around for 6 weeks straight going to yard sales. I spend $100 in gas and only find 20 good records. If I bought them for $1 each and sold them for $2 each, it wouldn’t be worth it.
You’re paying him a finders fee essentially. Lots of time and money are lost when you’re hunting records and collections, so when you get good records, you can’t just give them away, they help cover the tough times where we lose money. Otherwise whats to stop someone from coming in the shop, finding stuff for super cheap and flipping it on eBay.
It’s difficult to explain, but finding good records cost more than just the price we paid for the record. Hope that makes sense.
If the whole world was coming into his store he might be able to operate as you suggest
Unfortunately that isn't likely.He has to hope that the Queen rarity he spotted in someone's average 80's collection finds a willing buyer at,maybe #25.He's trading his knowledge.
I'll give you $50 for that Lynyrd Skynyrd Album right now. The one you showed!
my copy of The Police - Synchronicity doesn't have the red, blue and yellow color splashes across the cover. It is just black and white. Ive never seen this before. Is it a different pressing or just a printing error?
There were numerous variations, see Discogs.
@@miketomlin6040 thanks. i have variation #4, Andy Summers with bare breasted Japanese woman.
@@jasonmgomez You're welcome. Some people do try and collect them all!
You should do a punk rock, hardcore version of this. Or recommend someone?
I don’t know nearly enough about punk and hard rock, but Check out Vinyl Richie:
ruclips.net/channel/UC6IUI8Epkpqph-mafBUnbsw
Great collection, but I'm just wondering - for instance - with the Blakey record - you pulled it out without an inner sleeve and had your hands on it. Doesn't that de-value the record? In any event - keep up the good work!
Oh it does have an inner sleeve, I just tilted it to the side so I could pull it out without wasting time
I noticed that too. I *never* store my records with the inner sleeve facing the opening. Too easy to fall out. This becomes like the toilet paper debate though.
I'm always curious about some of the hip hop records I have are worth especially alot of the records I have from the rawkus, fondle em and eastern conference since those labels are dead but alot of classic artists and amazing cover art
On the money as usual Dillon.
All the best. 💎
great video mang, hey i have a quick question about led zep 4, i have 3 copies and one of the inner gatefold is upside down from the other 2, is one more collectable than the other and which one would that be?
Not sure, that particular press could just be that way.
I'm digging your videos, Dylan, recently discovered, thanks
Thanks so much
Great video, man 👌
Man I’d love to hear that Son House record.
A lot of original copies are worth more because they had inserts or were in gatefold sleeves that the re issues don't have. A huge selling point for me.
1970's Japanese and Italian sax Muzak vinyl with beefcake covers can sell for 100's depending on the artist. Also 1960's.
Yes
@@noblerecords Yeah Dillon. I only discovered this a few days ago after I googled a few of these records that I had ignored in my collection for years!