@@Therattatattata nope, they just had to go on hiatus and then she came forward about abuse that’s been happening to them. They aren’t disbanded the company just isn’t promoting them
Jyp just couldn’t silence Americans which the systems bullied Koreans. KG will not speak out if there is no truth to it. Jyp just violation labor code for minors. Who on earth ca focus with their studies if your stomach is empty. The brain needs glucose in order to function. Children or minors should never be allowed to be hungry which Jyp just violate. Working more than 8 to 12 hours especially minors is violation of minors under labor code. Jyp thought , that ko what they do to Korean artists can be applied to Americans, well, hell NO! Kids in America were taught to speak out, stand their gound
Yes, KG is suing the company, not JYP himself, she said she is extremely grateful for JYP and she is no way doxing him, just the staff under his company
@@breannpriceUmmm I’m not defending the company but I think the staff were the ones to blame I don’t think Jyp did anything bc he was nice but we never know what’s off camera
@@SKZFANN-k1j i’m not talking about jyp i’m talking about JYPE with it the company in la that vcha was at so yes it was the staff not jyp doing anything wrong only JYPE
U guys are forgetting that new jeans also went through the kpop training system and it's similar to the ones vcha also followed!!! And imagine training like that and being an idol and ur company is just trying to replace u or mismange u-!?!!
newjeans went through the kpop training system fully under mhj supervision. however they are throwing the blame on hybe even though it was mhj who starved them . there's literally videos online of mhj bragging about how the girls barely eat ever since she started training them. but the girls still support mhj . why is that?
@manainnit Nope Before that they went through the training system in Source music and if YK how their training system is then u would know Bro u literally thought u were onto something while ur weren't
Lol vcha's story is different from nj. Y'all want to scrap out the fact that these NJ girls are still supporting a woman that bullied alot of artists,and according to the girls the complaint they had was that they heard a manager tell their group not to greet them. Y'all should stop comparing their situations cos Vcha's is really srs and have no one cos they just debuted.
@Lilrascal4lyfe that's not mistreatment, everyone go through it.nj was always treated nicely by the company, luxury brand deals to luxury apartments.nj mistreated other groups as well.Other girl was actually mistreated unlike NJ who are pathetic liar & Pedolicker. Even anyone with common sense can see in video that NJ girls facial expression is like bully.
@@Lilrascal4lyfe Korean trainee system ain't mistreatment. Everyone go through it. NJ members are pathetic liars and pedolicker, always wanted to harm other groups and hybe while the other girl in the video is actually mistreated
@@Lilrascal4lyfeevery group goes girl....biy or girl..every group...just cause of ignoring u can't do what u want ...and also demand criminal to be ur producer from the company who once called u their biggest group next version..pays u millions...and u accuse them without proof ...terminate the contract orally and without any legal procedure..hold press conference without company knowledge... demand to use ur rights and name of group even when u are out of group is something a ridiculous person would do....vcha and nw is different...vcha literally went through hell and hidden cctv at their dorm is literal crime...
They're both different situations. The VCHA girls are literally being tortured and under a slave contract. Including having to wear, dress, look, and behave a certain way. A member unfortunately tried to attempt and others have EDs. newjeans on the other hand are only wanting to terminate their contract because mhj wasn't reinstated as a CEO. They want to follow a women who won't care to bring other people down in order for them to succeed. There's a huge difference between both groups so don't try to pass both situations as equal.
It’s more nuanced than that! The sad reality is that most kpop groups are under contracts just like the one KG exposed. The new jeans girls (and again, most kpop idols) have been exposed to this level of abuse and stress from a very young age. We don’t actually know the full story about new jean’s experiences under hybe, but they are definitely still victims of hybe, mhj, their parents, and the kpop industry. Both vcha and new jeans deserve support
@user-rg2zq7cq9r They choose to victimize themselves the day they choose a side. They could've easily remained neutral and continued to speak up for THEMSELVES, not for mhj. There's obviously a weird and uncomfortable obsession between the like min heejin and new jeans have for each other which have caused them to lie on mhj behalf. Note manipulation. With the exception of hyein and possibly haerin, new jeans should be smart and old enough to know who they're supporting, especially after what mhj has been exposed to doing. VCHA's story is way different and very much, unfortunately. They're american young girls aspiring to make music under the public supervision of korean and international fans. They have more pressure as the majority of them aren't korean. The truth is that the only victims here are VCHA. Newjeans set themselves on fire with their own hands.
@@marjhoriehernandez727 How are they old enough? None of their frontal lobes fully developed. None of them were adults when they were aspiring young girls, trying to make it in Korea. Not sure any of them were over the age of 15 when they joined HYBE. They are children. Sure, some are adults, but they are all still children, like it or not. The whole "holding idols accountable" is stupid. We have NO idea what happens behind the scenes. No, they are not the same, but yes, they are both victims.
@@marjhoriehernandez727 And I said what I did. They're children. They're of legal age, but they aren't even 21 years old. In addition, Minji became a trainee at 13, Hanni at 15, Danielle at 15, Haerin ~14, Hyein ~13. THEY WERE CHILDREN. Literal children. Minji didn't go to high school like a normal kid, neither did Hyein or Haerin. Where were they supposed to gain independence and knowledge surrounding the world? When. I know good and well you weren't making the best decisions at 15 and you weren't taking on the stress of a trainee and idol life.
im sorry to say it but newjeans and vcha are NOT in the same situation. vcha faced physical abuse, mental damage and more, whereas im still not actually clear what newjeans' mistreatment is other than being 'ignored' and hybe trying to 'replace them' EDIT: stop assuming I'm downplaying newjeans it's actually infuriating. I'm not saying newjeans don't deserve the same support as VCHA because they both suffered, all I said that supposedly "downplays" newjeans is that I'm not actually CLEAR on what their mistreatment was. They both have suffered a lot mentally and deserve all the support possible, but my definition of severity is based on the LAW and what usually gets made a bigger deal of. stop attacking me thanks
so I also only know a few things, hybe tried to erase and replace them, they also downplayed their success did nothing when pre debut/ inappropriate videos/photos got leaked, violation of the contract, canceling their music album new jeans left hybe for a reason. they were clearly uncomfortable with the toxic work environment. however, I do believe there was some manipulation from a min heejin and they did handle some things unprofessionally. I think Vchas situation is for sure more severe BUT I also dont think we should ignore ANY kind of mistreatment its deeply embedded into kpop and needs to be stopped. lets support both girls, and stop comparing mistreatment. im vlight and a bunny and I think both situations are wrong. ( I mean what the company is doing)
Tbh i don't know about them but still i want to say something and that is that these companies are nothing without the idols working there so be careful companies u may face losses . And hope every idol to be safe in there
NJ isn't really the "victims" they support someone who doesn't care about them and almost ruined 2 other groups careers, BOTH MHJ and HYBE are BAD! But in this case it is NOTHING like whay Vcha went through.
There old videos were upload without there permission and also minji is on first on idols ai fakers do u even know Idk why u guys just can't seem to notice due to false info and as uk vcha is still a rookie grp and ofc they went through hard training like alot of idols go through that and iam gald kg speak for themselves
“Newjeans was not a victim” HOLY GOD!!! SHUT UP, you don’t know what goes on behind the scenes so we can’t generalize, but according to the evidence New Jeans WAS ABUSED by the staff, in addition to being exploited daily with extra work that in case you didn’t know was not in their contract, I am more than sure that all of you if you had been in New Jeans’ place you would not have remained silent when you saw how the ONLY person who defended you and protected you from the abuse of the staff was going to leave. And I clarify that I am not on Min Hee Jin’s side, but I am on New Jeans’ side because they were victims WHETHER YOU ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
These are different situations. One of which you can't deny hybe was at fault for not even apologizing for not helping nwjns through a hard time. The other JYP USA STAFF was the ones pressuring the girls and making them work. Not jyp.
Omfg I’m so sick of people commenting this! JY park is not the ceo of any company! The staff were likely being instructed by the management! Stop defending ceos and billionaires!
@Junie13 Jyp can't order every individual management and staff he has under his company to abuse the girls. Companies have too many people from that and maybe management tells the staff to not jyp
JYP is what they are using to refer to the entertainment. The staff are a part of JYP. If this is the main thing you are commenting on this issue, wtf is wrong with you!
@Abelo0oO0 NJ is smart enough to know who/what they are supporting, MHJ and Hybe are both bad. So with NJ openly supporting MHJ (A PERSON WHO ALMOST RUINED 2 OTGER GROUPS CAREERS) they are not the victim.
They still are. So basically Mhj slept with hyeins father so nj were prob forced to do it. There were also texts saying abt mhj and their parents saying when the live will be done.
Guys it was belift lab not hybe! That’s the relationship between jype Korea and jype America. The staff were probably doing it under instruction from the management
@giaslayss she didn’t thanks JYPE Korea, she just didn’t sue them. She’s only suing the American branch, since they were directly responsible for what happened.
Vcha aren't cut out for the industry, this is basic training, overworking them and scolding them is the norm for this industry (don't get me wrong, this is very wrong and I will support Vcha to the moon and back)
remember, JYP KOREA didn’t have anything to do with this, it’s JYP USA; JYP KOREA was giving them nothing but kindness. JYP USA was the one abusing and mistreating VCHA
I'm sorry, but as a bunny and vcha stan, this isn't something both can share. While the only proof of abuse newjeans get out waa ignorance by other employees, KG revealed things that could've killed the members and are illegal.
guys its jype USA don't confuse yourself with JYP the man, who is not the ceo or in charge anymore, and jype korea the company. they suffered mistreatment and actual abuse from the staff and the USA company. plus there's a lot of divisions in jype with different rules so i think check that first. hope they get justice tho
Let's not compare the 2 cases, New jeans didn't have to go on crazy diets, didn't get into debt because they stayed in a house that the agency itself chose, had good marketing, earned millions and only complained after MHJ left. Vcha really went through a nightmare, they trained from 7 am to 1 am,even though they were sick or injured and one of them tried to kill herself. Don't compare ungrateful spoiled children with children who were actually abused.
every group goes through the korean training system ...every group ...boy or girl...all..kpop or company from korea related to music department....just cause of ignoring.... u can't do what u want ...and also demand criminal to be ur producer from the company who once called u their biggest group next version...pays u millions...but u hold press conference to terminate the contract without their knowledge...ask them to use ur right and name as a kpop group even after u terminate ...not paying and accusing the artist and company ...when company takes this matter to court ...say that company is harming the group ....wow... Vcha and nj are very different cases bro...vcha had to literally think of ending themselves with 42 pills and hidden camera in their dorm without their consent is crime literally...while other group is lirerally bullying its own company by just the excuse of ignorance ... that to without any proof...one has suffered alot while other is literally playing victim card and letting suffering the other artist ... One is real. Victims of literal crime and Other is trying to play victim...
let me clear this up. Some of yall need to learn the difference between JYP and JYPE. JYP is the guy we know, which isn’t the ceo since 2011. And JYPE is the entertainment. KG sued JYPE and JYP has nothing to do with it.
Yo yo yo wait....we are talking about the abuse that led a teenager to attempt a freaking SU*CIDE...on the Other hand hanni is there in the parliament coz someone ignored her...how can putting these two together be even justified??? Thats just stupid to think that njs went through the same as VCHA
Don't compare newjeans and vcha case newjeans complaint was that illit's manager told them to ignore hanni but vcha was abused and one member tried to commit suicide it's different #justiceforVCHA
ok first, that’s not their only argument against hybe, if have been following the situation since it started (basically what i’ve been doing) you will know that hybe released unauthorized content of the girls, made them dance inappropriately, and honestly there can be more that we don’t know about. so don’t say that newjeans hasn’t suffered or they aren’t victims, they are being controlled horribly by mhj, newjeans are puppets and mhj is like the puppet master. so they’re actions came from mhj telling them what to do
Vcha's case and NJ's is definitely not similar. Vcha is actually going through something while NJ are saying ppl don't greet them in the company while they're busy supporting mhj who wanted the downfall of alot of other artists as long as they're not nj.
You guys are saying Newjeans are not Victims. But how would you know ?? Hanni said they got mistreated and Hybe doesn’t like her so what makes you guys think the staff will like her too?? She is most likely to get mistreated the whole NEWJEANS are most likely to get mistreatment because of what MHJ HYBE don’t like NEWJEANS and you think they are gonna get princess treatment 🤨 NEWJEANS were mistreated. You guys are always like “oh my gosh my anger issues” “I wouldn’t last a day being an idol” “If I ever got mistreated it wouldn’t happen again for what I would do” and you guys also say Hanni is lying but what makes you think that?? Do you know what HYBE and their staff do to NEWJEANS off camera ?? No you guys say idols should speak up when they are being mistreated or abused or anything but when NEWJEANS does “OH THEY ARE FOLLOWING MHJ” “These little brats are not even getting mistreated” “ this is what you call mistreated” to a Vcha video then talk about NEWJEANS. You know and I know that they got mistreated and Hybe hate NEWJEANS and I wouldn’t want to work in a hateful environment and you wouldn’t either and NEWJEANS are not either. 🫧 🆕👖
@@haerinisacatconfirmed exactly like, none of us know what’s happening behind the scenes with this. people gotta remember there’s things they can’t say.
JY park is also not the ceo of JYPE!! I can’t find anyone blaming JY Park himself so if this is the main thing you are commenting on this issue, wtf is wrong with you
hybe canceled their comeback(s), hybe leaked nj ‘s predebut vids and medical records without their permission for everyone on the internet to see, hybe having nj ‘s mvs compromised, hybe / ador not alerting nj when ador ceo (mhj) was forced to step down from her position, hybe downplaying the amount of sales of nj ‘s albums & hybe having a nj ‘s fan meeting cancelled because of “grass” (even though another idol had a fan meeting there..). is that not mistreatment lol ? they are victims
@haerinisacatconfirmed did I mention hybe ??? Lol .... following mhj is a completely different thing ...U think going with mhj is good lol...U think hybe is crazy ...mhj is crazier...sorry but not sorry they r not victim here....U r ready to forget what mhj did just becoz u wanna support..nwz..🤣👀...bruh..nwz says they faced work place bullying when other group ignored them!!! Uk what they deserved to be ignored by them by the amount of hate those groups got ..becoz of nwz...n nwz never clarified...bruh nwz is fucked up mostly becoz of following mhz n being ignorant...no one hates nwz..but they r being selfish n greedy here...
@@haerinisacatconfirmed bruh.... whenever someone try to say anything about nwz (facts) which doesn't seem in their favour or anything about mhj !!! U bunnies get so triggered...u need to calm down....giving all these lists about what hybe did doesn't matter ..n seems u have a job.... defending mhj...
people are quick to hate J.Y.Park because he's cringe, old and sexualizes his idols (which btw yall can no longer blame him for because he isn't a CEO of the company anymore, yes he has a say in what MUSIC is being put out but yall cannot blame him if the company is still sexualizing their idols) If yall wanna blame someone, take KG's word and blame the staff of the US JYP Label not J.Y Park himself.
Bruh she accused the american part of jype and she thanked jy park her self And also jy park is a artist under a conoany by his own nsme he has a ceo and vcha has a manager In addition to that, there are stuff the american jype didnt speak the manager there, there are stuff he didnt speak
Yall jypapi did nothing neither did the korean branch The american branch of JYPE was in control of all thing surronding VCHA and in the statement kg sent she thanked jypapi and the korean staff for being so sweet snd nice to the group
@Junie13 people might at first think that and I have already commented on multiple videos on the important matter I'm just directing where the concern needs to go to which is jype america
@@STRAY.KISS_WOO.143 thank you for telling me that. The blame def needs to go on JYPE America. I just see so many people commenting this instead of more important things.
@Junie13 yeah ppl might blame jypapi when he only now has control over the music like a producer and isn't the ceo anymore and the korean branch can't do anything when it comes to the American branch bc they are 2 different ones
MEANWHILE "FIFTY - FIFTY" : *"HOLD MY DAMN CUPID ARROW MFS"* 😂💔🔥🔥🔥 IF NEWJEANS DIDN'T SUPPORT MIN HEE JIN & AVOID INVOLVING IN _"HYBE'S ADULTS ONLY SCANDAL"_ THEY COULD HAVE BEEN HYBE'S MOST FAVOURITE DAUGHTER'S BUT SHAME ON THEM THEY RUINED THEIR PERFECT FUTURE BY THEIR OWN HANDS😂🎉❤
No because when vcha members talked about abuse everybody supported them (which I'm very very glad of) but when new jeans talked about it then suddenly it's all made up, attention seekers, ungrateful brats, liars, mhj's dogs/puppets etc etc. They're all young girls be gentle on them and why on gods beautiful earth would they lie? We see enhypen, txt being over worked like donkeys and still can't believe when a group from the same company speaks about the injustice in the company?
Many people aren’t supporting vcha, specifically k nets. They say KG is being over dramatic and they should stop complaining because ‘that’s just how it works’
So Hanni basically exposed hybe on "How Sweet" Because in one of the parts she wrote. It was "Toxic lover, no better", "You little demon" and yeah. That's all i know :)
Why would you put hanni couldn't you put an idol that was actually mistreated this treatment that NewJeans was telling everyone about was them not being spoiled by the new CEO because she's not close with them when the old CEO was there she used to spoil them because she was very close with them and that's why they want to terminate their contract and they didn't even sue the company they've been complaining online this entire time and haven't made one legal move yet
please don't compare these two situations. vcha are victims. i'm sure new jeans suffered, but for the most part, it was because of the choice they made to side with mhj (who is arguably a controversial person). vcha are victims, i don't think the word victims is right for new jeans. by-standers or catalysts of a crossfire maybe?
@Enha4life7 So basically they were mistreated by the staff in JYPE(American branch) but Jypapi is no longer the CEO but people blame him even VCHA (the group that was getting mistreated) thanked Jypapi for his kindness plus he isn't the CEO of JYPE so he doesn't hold responsibility (Sorry if I made any mistakes or if you didn't understand)
@@Kiwijin143no whats happening is the girls of vcha are being starved, spied on, and abused. It was to the point a member tried to k*ll themself, several members are self harming, and one developed an ed. No one is blaming J Y Park, that is not the f-ing issue here.
they got abused and treated horribly during their hiatus which made the girl in the video kg which is a member of vcha come out with a statement on her instagram story stating that they were treated horribly and the abuse even made a member of vcha attempt suicide i know it’s long but that’s basically what happened hope this helps !
Bunnies are sooo funny 😭 their situation isn’t the same NJ is blindly following MHJ’s orders…unlike KG who is actually fighting for injustice and mistreatment
their situations might not be the same but you can ‘t tell me what newjeans went through isn ‘t mistreatment . i also have a paragraph on what newjeans went through in case you wanna deny
@ yesyes get all your paragraphs ready I’ve seen what ruined the girls and it was the adults around them,no one to trust who actually cares about them and maybe they were being ignored by their peers but just how can you compare a situation like that to Kg’s I think it’s disrespectful,Kg went through her own personal hell with the management at JYP USA,almost died..but at the end of the day she HERSELF is fighting for what’s wrong and right unlike NJ who are willingly and blindly following MHJ’s orders and that’s why nothing they say will ever feel authentic and genuine because we all know the how manipulative and disgusting the woman they love is
@@animenation2500vcha is not getting as much support as you think! K nets are saying they are being over dramatic and should stop complaining. Last I checked njs wasn’t starved and berated to the point members were self harming and one tried to k*ll themself.
We support the victim, companies are saying whatever to save themselves from losing money, don't feed them, support vcha!
Man did vcha like disband im so behind man 😭😭😭😭😭
@@Therattatattatano they didn't, kg just left the group
@@Therattatattata nope, they just had to go on hiatus and then she came forward about abuse that’s been happening to them. They aren’t disbanded the company just isn’t promoting them
@ that’s crazy Ty tho
you say this and then in the your latest community post you’re literally contradicting yourself??? hello???
She is a boss for doing that and she know it ❤❤❤
That's a brave thing to do , her seniors couldn't do it
Jyp just couldn’t silence Americans which the systems bullied Koreans. KG will not speak out if there is no truth to it. Jyp just violation labor code for minors. Who on earth ca focus with their studies if your stomach is empty. The brain needs glucose in order to function. Children or minors should never be allowed to be hungry which Jyp just violate. Working more than 8 to 12 hours especially minors is violation of minors under labor code. Jyp thought , that ko what they do to Korean artists can be applied to Americans, well, hell NO! Kids in America were taught to speak out, stand their gound
JYP was nothing but nice to VCHA. if anything, it was the staff
It’s not from Korea, it’s the entertainment from the USA. It’s not the same so you don’t have to be worried :)
jyp isn't a good person. I hope that is known. He has done many things behind doors. Which he comes off as a funny, chill person that he isn't.
Yes, KG is suing the company, not JYP himself, she said she is extremely grateful for JYP and she is no way doxing him, just the staff under his company
@SheldonLeeCooper.1980where is your proof bud...even KG HERSELF, stated that it was only the staff and JYP did nothing....
@SheldonLeeCooper.1980 bro where did u get that shit from? Wikipedia or smth?
Jypapi didn’t abuse them it was the staff.
She sued jype usa ... Jypapi did nothing, people targetting papi must take some knowledge
u do not know that man why r u defending him
@@frankie-byidle KG said herself that she is grateful for JYP, she is just suing the company and staff. JYP was really nice to them they said
Hybe didn't do anything it was staff
@@AkshithaSantosh-b4i where is hybe coming from?
I'm screaming they had so much potential 😭
exactly and jype just had to ruin it 😭
@@breannpriceUmmm I’m not defending the company but I think the staff were the ones to blame I don’t think Jyp did anything bc he was nice but we never know what’s off camera
@@SKZFANN-k1jyeah they said jype not jyp
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@@SKZFANN-k1j i’m not talking about jyp i’m talking about JYPE with it the company in la that vcha was at so yes it was the staff not jyp doing anything wrong only JYPE
I hope every kpop idol is safe thats why i sometimes hate these companies 😢
The staff was bad not the companie
The positive is that she spoke up, glad she could speak up
Both are queens they are fearless
I stand with KG and NJ I’ve supported these groups from the very start 🎀💓
U guys are forgetting that new jeans also went through the kpop training system and it's similar to the ones vcha also followed!!! And imagine training like that and being an idol and ur company is just trying to replace u or mismange u-!?!!
they were never trying to "replace" 💀 stop feeding into mhj's lies its embarrassing
@@Yiyaaaaaaa For real!!! Idk why they are downplaying the struggles new jeans also went through!!! And so many other groups who made it big too
newjeans went through the kpop training system fully under mhj supervision. however they are throwing the blame on hybe even though it was mhj who starved them . there's literally videos online of mhj bragging about how the girls barely eat ever since she started training them. but the girls still support mhj . why is that?
@manainnit Nope
Before that they went through the training system in Source music and if YK how their training system is then u would know
Bro u literally thought u were onto something while ur weren't
Lol vcha's story is different from nj. Y'all want to scrap out the fact that these NJ girls are still supporting a woman that bullied alot of artists,and according to the girls the complaint they had was that they heard a manager tell their group not to greet them. Y'all should stop comparing their situations cos Vcha's is really srs and have no one cos they just debuted.
Both ain't same That NJ girl called "not greeting" mistreatment while the other girl is actually mistreated
You typed that out like the nj members didn’t also go through the korean trainee system. How much more wildly incompetent can you be lmao
@Lilrascal4lyfe that's not mistreatment, everyone go through it.nj was always treated nicely by the company, luxury brand deals to luxury apartments.nj mistreated other groups as well.Other girl was actually mistreated unlike NJ who are pathetic liar & Pedolicker. Even anyone with common sense can see in video that NJ girls facial expression is like bully.
@@Lilrascal4lyfe Korean trainee system ain't mistreatment. Everyone go through it. NJ members are pathetic liars and pedolicker, always wanted to harm other groups and hybe while the other girl in the video is actually mistreated
@@Lilrascal4lyfeevery group goes girl....biy or girl..every group...just cause of ignoring u can't do what u want ...and also demand criminal to be ur producer from the company who once called u their biggest group next version..pays u millions...and u accuse them without proof ...terminate the contract orally and without any legal procedure..hold press conference without company knowledge... demand to use ur rights and name of group even when u are out of group is something a ridiculous person would do....vcha and nw is different...vcha literally went through hell and hidden cctv at their dorm is literal crime...
@@Lilrascal4lyfestill Kg was the only one who acted against kpop mistreatment and not only a greeting
They're both different situations. The VCHA girls are literally being tortured and under a slave contract. Including having to wear, dress, look, and behave a certain way. A member unfortunately tried to attempt and others have EDs. newjeans on the other hand are only wanting to terminate their contract because mhj wasn't reinstated as a CEO. They want to follow a women who won't care to bring other people down in order for them to succeed. There's a huge difference between both groups so don't try to pass both situations as equal.
It’s more nuanced than that! The sad reality is that most kpop groups are under contracts just like the one KG exposed. The new jeans girls (and again, most kpop idols) have been exposed to this level of abuse and stress from a very young age. We don’t actually know the full story about new jean’s experiences under hybe, but they are definitely still victims of hybe, mhj, their parents, and the kpop industry. Both vcha and new jeans deserve support
@user-rg2zq7cq9r They choose to victimize themselves the day they choose a side. They could've easily remained neutral and continued to speak up for THEMSELVES, not for mhj. There's obviously a weird and uncomfortable obsession between the like min heejin and new jeans have for each other which have caused them to lie on mhj behalf. Note manipulation. With the exception of hyein and possibly haerin, new jeans should be smart and old enough to know who they're supporting, especially after what mhj has been exposed to doing. VCHA's story is way different and very much, unfortunately. They're american young girls aspiring to make music under the public supervision of korean and international fans. They have more pressure as the majority of them aren't korean. The truth is that the only victims here are VCHA. Newjeans set themselves on fire with their own hands.
@@marjhoriehernandez727 How are they old enough? None of their frontal lobes fully developed. None of them were adults when they were aspiring young girls, trying to make it in Korea. Not sure any of them were over the age of 15 when they joined HYBE. They are children. Sure, some are adults, but they are all still children, like it or not. The whole "holding idols accountable" is stupid. We have NO idea what happens behind the scenes. No, they are not the same, but yes, they are both victims.
@crazerrazer6778 I said what I said, whether you like it or not.
@@marjhoriehernandez727 And I said what I did. They're children. They're of legal age, but they aren't even 21 years old. In addition, Minji became a trainee at 13, Hanni at 15, Danielle at 15, Haerin ~14, Hyein ~13. THEY WERE CHILDREN. Literal children. Minji didn't go to high school like a normal kid, neither did Hyein or Haerin. Where were they supposed to gain independence and knowledge surrounding the world? When. I know good and well you weren't making the best decisions at 15 and you weren't taking on the stress of a trainee and idol life.
We support Vcha . Vlights foreverrrr❤❤
Both of them are so brave😍
actually for hanni case ignoring is not abuse or bullied
But the thing is Jyp didn’t Abuse them It was the staff, But I could be wrong
No you are completely correct the staff abused them, JYP was nothing but nice to VCHA
What No JYPE abused them nit JYP or the staff
@@LuckyVicky_Energy JYPE is the company including JYP and the Staff, both of them did not abuse VCHA only the staff had abused them.
@@LuckyVicky_Energy it wasn’t JYPE (JYP Entertainment) , they are under JYP America that is run by completely different people.
@@LuckyVicky_Energy it was the staff working under JYPE USA
Need the company drama to stop, and New Jeans never die
We love u both KG & Hanni. My bravo girls❤
Let’s show lots of love to them ♥️
New Jeans had no business dragging Suga and JK in this. Let's see how far these kids go with this case.
They didn't drag anyone into this?wth are you on? Jk literally posted that himself it's not like they forced him too.
loving them both >>> 💗
Me thinking yg is gentle man . I cant believe jyp did this be strong
It wasn't jypapi it was the American branch of JYPE
Remember that shes suing the independent branch if jyp, jyp America, not the jyp korea one, since kg thanked jy park
im sorry to say it but newjeans and vcha are NOT in the same situation. vcha faced physical abuse, mental damage and more, whereas im still not actually clear what newjeans' mistreatment is other than being 'ignored' and hybe trying to 'replace them'
EDIT: stop assuming I'm downplaying newjeans it's actually infuriating. I'm not saying newjeans don't deserve the same support as VCHA because they both suffered, all I said that supposedly "downplays" newjeans is that I'm not actually CLEAR on what their mistreatment was. They both have suffered a lot mentally and deserve all the support possible, but my definition of severity is based on the LAW and what usually gets made a bigger deal of. stop attacking me thanks
so I also only know a few things, hybe tried to erase and replace them, they also downplayed their success did nothing when pre debut/ inappropriate videos/photos got leaked, violation of the contract, canceling their music album new jeans left hybe for a reason. they were clearly uncomfortable with the toxic work environment. however, I do believe there was some manipulation from a min heejin and they did handle some things unprofessionally. I think Vchas situation is for sure more severe BUT I also dont think we should ignore ANY kind of mistreatment its deeply embedded into kpop and needs to be stopped. lets support both girls, and stop comparing mistreatment. im vlight and a bunny and I think both situations are wrong. ( I mean what the company is doing)
@Knot_jayagreed 100%.
@Knot_jay i never said we should ignore one side. I just said vchas situation is much more severe.
K, lets just say both are bad situations-_-@sandeokiii
@Boinkc good idea lmao
Tbh i don't know about them but still i want to say something and that is that these companies are nothing without the idols working there so be careful companies u may face losses . And hope every idol to be safe in there
OK BUT AT THIS POINT I WANT NEWJEANS AND VCHA TO JOIN SM LIKE THEY ARE SO…..
I HAVE NO WORDS.
Okay, but let's think about idols before them how much pain they faced before the fame, I think this is unimaginable. I wish them the best 😢.
NJ isn't really the "victims" they support someone who doesn't care about them and almost ruined 2 other groups careers, BOTH MHJ and HYBE are BAD! But in this case it is NOTHING like whay Vcha went through.
Real
There old videos were upload without there permission and also minji is on first on idols ai fakers do u even know Idk why u guys just can't seem to notice due to false info and as uk vcha is still a rookie grp and ofc they went through hard training like alot of idols go through that and iam gald kg speak for themselves
“Newjeans was not a victim” HOLY GOD!!! SHUT UP, you don’t know what goes on behind the scenes so we can’t generalize, but according to the evidence New Jeans WAS ABUSED by the staff, in addition to being exploited daily with extra work that in case you didn’t know was not in their contract, I am more than sure that all of you if you had been in New Jeans’ place you would not have remained silent when you saw how the ONLY person who defended you and protected you from the abuse of the staff was going to leave. And I clarify that I am not on Min Hee Jin’s side, but I am on New Jeans’ side because they were victims WHETHER YOU ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
THIER GONNA CHANGE THE INDUSTRY
Is so hard u dn who to belive😢
‼️‼️ jyp as in jypapi is not in the wrong,it’s jypE,the American sector,and it’s the staff there
These are different situations. One of which you can't deny hybe was at fault for not even apologizing for not helping nwjns through a hard time. The other JYP USA STAFF was the ones pressuring the girls and making them work. Not jyp.
Omfg I’m so sick of people commenting this! JY park is not the ceo of any company! The staff were likely being instructed by the management! Stop defending ceos and billionaires!
@Junie13 Jyp can't order every individual management and staff he has under his company to abuse the girls. Companies have too many people from that and maybe management tells the staff to not jyp
“abuse” they only got ignored 😭😭😭😭😭
U don't know about them behind the camera stfu
Btw JYP didnt abused them. It was the staff.
JYP is what they are using to refer to the entertainment. The staff are a part of JYP. If this is the main thing you are commenting on this issue, wtf is wrong with you!
@Junie13 JYP was really sweet to them. Its the JYP america not the JYP Korea
@@WHYDOUNEEDTOKNOWME55 she is only suing JYP America,
@Junie13 Thats what im saying
@@WHYDOUNEEDTOKNOWME55 ok
These situations r literally so different, Vcha is the victim here and nwj isn't...
Se te nota lo army 😫
@Abelo0oO0 NJ is smart enough to know who/what they are supporting, MHJ and Hybe are both bad. So with NJ openly supporting MHJ (A PERSON WHO ALMOST RUINED 2 OTGER GROUPS CAREERS) they are not the victim.
They still are. So basically Mhj slept with hyeins father so nj were prob forced to do it. There were also texts saying abt mhj and their parents saying when the live will be done.
@HauMun_1lovetacos you lost me when you said "smart enough"
@sunzcyfim they should be smart enough to know what person they are supporting and how ba she is
Bro lets not put these 2 situations together nwjs is nothing like vcha
both got mistreated, and are speaking up for what’s right! gotta love them!!🩷🩷
GUYS Remember not only was it JYPA not jype but it was also the staff
Guys it was belift lab not hybe! That’s the relationship between jype Korea and jype America. The staff were probably doing it under instruction from the management
@giaslayss she didn’t thanks JYPE Korea, she just didn’t sue them. She’s only suing the American branch, since they were directly responsible for what happened.
Vcha aren't cut out for the industry, this is basic training, overworking them and scolding them is the norm for this industry (don't get me wrong, this is very wrong and I will support Vcha to the moon and back)
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@giaslayssno,this
Shouldn't be normalised
Dude hanni and vcha is different noone abuse Hanni 🤦
Who would lie about that shit cause that typa shit is serious talking 😭
@@Yunessa02 that's what they do when someone brings their secrets out into the open
@vchahouseot6 agreed💯
remember, JYP KOREA didn’t have anything to do with this, it’s JYP USA; JYP KOREA was giving them nothing but kindness. JYP USA was the one abusing and mistreating VCHA
Not in a bad way but you all already forgot about Gaeun when it was literally the most serious one together with vcha
vcha was literally ABUSED.
I'm sorry, but as a bunny and vcha stan, this isn't something both can share. While the only proof of abuse newjeans get out waa ignorance by other employees, KG revealed things that could've killed the members and are illegal.
😢😢❤❤
Делать такие видео как будто Newjeans не потеряли карьеру😶😶
#supportvcha
guys its jype USA don't confuse yourself with JYP the man, who is not the ceo or in charge anymore, and jype korea the company. they suffered mistreatment and actual abuse from the staff and the USA company. plus there's a lot of divisions in jype with different rules so i think check that first. hope they get justice tho
Let's not compare the 2 cases, New jeans didn't have to go on crazy diets, didn't get into debt because they stayed in a house that the agency itself chose, had good marketing, earned millions and only complained after MHJ left. Vcha really went through a nightmare, they trained from 7 am to 1 am,even though they were sick or injured and one of them tried to kill herself. Don't compare ungrateful spoiled children with children who were actually abused.
The situations here don't fit, VCHA really suffered, new jeans didn't
@@nanicmaster i know, it's not about who suffers more, obviously it's vcha
newjeans has been suffering, as bad as vcha? maybe not, but both groups have endured so much
@ilikeguitar11 well, new jeans asked for it and it's their fault, that's the big difference
@@nanicmaster they didn’t ask for it
@@nanicmaster mhj is actually manipulating tf out of newjeans and so what do they do the is mhj is pulling the strings
NEWJEANS NEVER DIE!! , FREE VCHA!!!
every group goes through the korean training system ...every group ...boy or girl...all..kpop or company from korea related to music department....just cause of ignoring.... u can't do what u want ...and also demand criminal to be ur producer from the company who once called u their biggest group next version...pays u millions...but u hold press conference to terminate the contract without their knowledge...ask them to use ur right and name as a kpop group even after u terminate ...not paying and accusing the artist and company ...when company takes this matter to court ...say that company is harming the group ....wow...
Vcha and nj are very different cases bro...vcha had to literally think of ending themselves with 42 pills and hidden camera in their dorm without their consent is crime literally...while other group is lirerally bullying its own company by just the excuse of ignorance ... that to without any proof...one has suffered alot while other is literally playing victim card and letting suffering the other artist ...
One is real. Victims of literal crime and Other is trying to play victim...
let me clear this up.
Some of yall need to learn the difference between JYP and JYPE. JYP is the guy we know, which isn’t the ceo since 2011. And JYPE is the entertainment. KG sued JYPE and JYP has nothing to do with it.
I like the part were the girl did don't panicking darling
Yo yo yo wait....we are talking about the abuse that led a teenager to attempt a freaking SU*CIDE...on the Other hand hanni is there in the parliament coz someone ignored her...how can putting these two together be even justified???
Thats just stupid to think that njs went through the same as VCHA
VCHA is under an American entertainment owned by JYP but not observed, run by him. So, not JYP papis fault. :D
yh
NO ONE IS BLAMING JY PARK! Stop commenting this and bring awareness to the IMPORTANT parts of the situation
@Junie13 Ik that, I've posted about this on IG. I was clarifying this bcz most ppl are blaming JYP.
Don't compare newjeans and vcha case newjeans complaint was that illit's manager told them to ignore hanni but vcha was abused and one member tried to commit suicide it's different
#justiceforVCHA
OMG STFU YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON
ok first, that’s not their only argument against hybe, if have been following the situation since it started (basically what i’ve been doing) you will know that hybe released unauthorized content of the girls, made them dance inappropriately, and honestly there can be more that we don’t know about. so don’t say that newjeans hasn’t suffered or they aren’t victims, they are being controlled horribly by mhj, newjeans are puppets and mhj is like the puppet master. so they’re actions came from mhj telling them what to do
@ilikeguitar11that the thing alot of people really don't know even half of the things they went for and now they are stuck to the ignoring thing
@@DuaZahra-t9u ik
I need justice for newjeans
Cant beleive you compare both situations as if they were the same.
2024 is turning into one of our worst kpop years😢
Vcha's case and NJ's is definitely not similar. Vcha is actually going through something while NJ are saying ppl don't greet them in the company while they're busy supporting mhj who wanted the downfall of alot of other artists as long as they're not nj.
Can I use this idea?
yall who says nwj enevr suffered yall are dumb ngl
kg followinh hanni law which is leaving ur company
Ok but now I'm surpraised because all comments are in counter of Nwjs
it was not jyp it was jype i mean the staff of jyp international
I really don’t believe JYP himself would do this :/ as a adult now and during my childhood/ teenager years I really don’t believe it
JYP himself didnt do this. it was JYPE America staff
@ oh ok that’s good!, I was worried people were blaming JYP himself, but it’s pretty messed up what the American staff are doing to the girls
@@Yeojunanananano one is blaming jypark himself
Jyp has nothing to do with this tho, it was the staff that abused them
Fact: Its American ver of JYP not korean so Jypapi did nothing here
You guys are saying Newjeans are not Victims. But how would you know ?? Hanni said they got mistreated and Hybe doesn’t like her so what makes you guys think the staff will like her too?? She is most likely to get mistreated the whole NEWJEANS are most likely to get mistreatment because of what MHJ HYBE don’t like NEWJEANS and you think they are gonna get princess treatment 🤨 NEWJEANS were mistreated. You guys are always like “oh my gosh my anger issues” “I wouldn’t last a day being an idol” “If I ever got mistreated it wouldn’t happen again for what I would do” and you guys also say Hanni is lying but what makes you think that?? Do you know what HYBE and their staff do to NEWJEANS off camera ?? No you guys say idols should speak up when they are being mistreated or abused or anything but when NEWJEANS does “OH THEY ARE FOLLOWING MHJ” “These little brats are not even getting mistreated” “ this is what you call mistreated” to a Vcha video then talk about NEWJEANS. You know and I know that they got mistreated and Hybe hate NEWJEANS and I wouldn’t want to work in a hateful environment and you wouldn’t either and NEWJEANS are not either. 🫧
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but in all seriousness , i don ‘t get why people hate on nj . they act like they know what happened behind the scenes at ador / hybe 😭
louder for the people in the back dude
@@haerinisacatconfirmed exactly like, none of us know what’s happening behind the scenes with this. people gotta remember there’s things they can’t say.
@ yeah , and newjeans is in the video too …
Guys KG sued the AMERICA branch of JYP. She said thank you to JY Park
JY park is also not the ceo of JYPE!! I can’t find anyone blaming JY Park himself so if this is the main thing you are commenting on this issue, wtf is wrong with you
Jype korea wasnt the abusers it was jype usa and the staff there. Jypapi isnt a part of this
No se compara
Nwz is not the victim here !!! They are just literally following mhj 😩
hybe canceled their comeback(s), hybe leaked nj ‘s predebut vids and medical records without their permission for everyone on the internet to see, hybe having nj ‘s mvs compromised, hybe / ador not alerting nj when ador ceo (mhj) was forced to step down from her position, hybe downplaying the amount of sales of nj ‘s albums & hybe having a nj ‘s fan meeting cancelled because of “grass” (even though another idol had a fan meeting there..). is that not mistreatment lol ? they are victims
@haerinisacatconfirmed did I mention hybe ??? Lol .... following mhj is a completely different thing ...U think going with mhj is good lol...U think hybe is crazy ...mhj is crazier...sorry but not sorry they r not victim here....U r ready to forget what mhj did just becoz u wanna support..nwz..🤣👀...bruh..nwz says they faced work place bullying when other group ignored them!!! Uk what they deserved to be ignored by them by the amount of hate those groups got ..becoz of nwz...n nwz never clarified...bruh nwz is fucked up mostly becoz of following mhz n being ignorant...no one hates nwz..but they r being selfish n greedy here...
@haerinisacatconfirmed n btw mhj deserved that step down...becoz she is who she is ...nwz following her is something u fans should think carefully...
@@jahnabee_bee850 i ‘m just stating the mistreatment they faced calm down .. 🤦♀️ i think you should go get a job
@@haerinisacatconfirmed bruh.... whenever someone try to say anything about nwz (facts) which doesn't seem in their favour or anything about mhj !!! U bunnies get so triggered...u need to calm down....giving all these lists about what hybe did doesn't matter ..n seems u have a job.... defending mhj...
people are quick to hate J.Y.Park because he's cringe, old and sexualizes his idols (which btw yall can no longer blame him for because he isn't a CEO of the company anymore, yes he has a say in what MUSIC is being put out but yall cannot blame him if the company is still sexualizing their idols) If yall wanna blame someone, take KG's word and blame the staff of the US JYP Label not J.Y Park himself.
Bruh she accused the american part of jype and she thanked jy park her self
And also jy park is a artist under a conoany by his own nsme he has a ceo and vcha has a manager
In addition to that, there are stuff the american jype didnt speak the manager there, there are stuff he didnt speak
So yall stop judging to fast and listen to the backstory first 😒
@@B1SCO.Swho is saying it’s JY Parks fault? People are blaming JYPE America.
Yall jypapi did nothing neither did the korean branch
The american branch of JYPE was in control of all thing surronding VCHA and in the statement kg sent she thanked jypapi and the korean staff for being so sweet snd nice to the group
Who tf is saying jyp Korea or JY Park himself are to blame? NO ONE, please start commenting on the actually important matters hers
@Junie13 people might at first think that and I have already commented on multiple videos on the important matter I'm just directing where the concern needs to go to which is jype america
@@STRAY.KISS_WOO.143 thank you for telling me that. The blame def needs to go on JYPE America. I just see so many people commenting this instead of more important things.
@Junie13 yeah ppl might blame jypapi when he only now has control over the music like a producer and isn't the ceo anymore and the korean branch can't do anything when it comes to the American branch bc they are 2 different ones
MEANWHILE "FIFTY - FIFTY" :
*"HOLD MY DAMN CUPID ARROW MFS"* 😂💔🔥🔥🔥
IF NEWJEANS DIDN'T SUPPORT MIN HEE JIN & AVOID INVOLVING IN _"HYBE'S ADULTS ONLY SCANDAL"_
THEY COULD HAVE BEEN HYBE'S MOST FAVOURITE DAUGHTER'S BUT SHAME ON THEM THEY RUINED THEIR PERFECT FUTURE BY THEIR OWN HANDS😂🎉❤
We were all just focused on hybe....😢
Btw what happend to Kaylee?... Did she like die or smth??
I thought you would show chuu
No because when vcha members talked about abuse everybody supported them (which I'm very very glad of) but when new jeans talked about it then suddenly it's all made up, attention seekers, ungrateful brats, liars, mhj's dogs/puppets etc etc. They're all young girls be gentle on them and why on gods beautiful earth would they lie? We see enhypen, txt being over worked like donkeys and still can't believe when a group from the same company speaks about the injustice in the company?
Many people aren’t supporting vcha, specifically k nets. They say KG is being over dramatic and they should stop complaining because ‘that’s just how it works’
So Hanni basically exposed hybe on "How Sweet" Because in one of the parts she wrote. It was "Toxic lover, no better", "You little demon" and yeah. That's all i know :)
Not to be offensive as a VLIGHT and a bunny but their situations are very different :/
“if it fits, you can take it.”
I CAN TAKE YOU TO YOUR MOMS BASEMENT 😭
Don't compare them vcha is actually victims of theor staff new jeans are just entitled
Why would you put hanni couldn't you put an idol that was actually mistreated this treatment that NewJeans was telling everyone about was them not being spoiled by the new CEO because she's not close with them when the old CEO was there she used to spoil them because she was very close with them and that's why they want to terminate their contract and they didn't even sue the company they've been complaining online this entire time and haven't made one legal move yet
please don't compare these two situations. vcha are victims. i'm sure new jeans suffered, but for the most part, it was because of the choice they made to side with mhj (who is arguably a controversial person). vcha are victims, i don't think the word victims is right for new jeans. by-standers or catalysts of a crossfire maybe?
@@shyveslxv They're definitely catalyst
U do realize its not the company right-
HANNIS SMIRKKKKK
And?
The only good company here is JYPapi
I'm sorry but what happened?
@Enha4life7 So basically they were mistreated by the staff in JYPE(American branch) but Jypapi is no longer the CEO but people blame him even VCHA (the group that was getting mistreated) thanked Jypapi for his kindness plus he isn't the CEO of JYPE so he doesn't hold responsibility
(Sorry if I made any mistakes or if you didn't understand)
@@Kiwijin143no whats happening is the girls of vcha are being starved, spied on, and abused. It was to the point a member tried to k*ll themself, several members are self harming, and one developed an ed. No one is blaming J Y Park, that is not the f-ing issue here.
Ahem new jeans and VCHA case are totally different story duhh, for newjeans we should read or listen to both parties side not just your biases 😐😐
Dont compare their situations. How ignorant.
@cmool they're both victims , that's the point, keep the sarcasm.
is this a video of kg talking about the lawsuit or is it a different video?
i think it ‘s a diff vid bc kg announced it on her insta story
Kg:(
What happened?
@@Kpopmix_edit a lot.. check my videos you'll understand
What is happening with vcha ?
they got abused and treated horribly during their hiatus which made the girl in the video kg which is a member of vcha
come out with a statement
on her instagram story stating that they were treated horribly and the abuse even made a member of vcha attempt suicide i know it’s long but that’s basically what happened hope this helps !
Thx sm !
@ no problem!!
Bunnies are sooo funny 😭 their situation isn’t the same NJ is blindly following MHJ’s orders…unlike KG who is actually fighting for injustice and mistreatment
Literally no bunny is saying it’s the same.
their situations might not be the same but you can ‘t tell me what newjeans went through isn ‘t mistreatment . i also have a paragraph on what newjeans went through in case you wanna deny
@ yesyes get all your paragraphs ready I’ve seen what ruined the girls and it was the adults around them,no one to trust who actually cares about them and maybe they were being ignored by their peers but just how can you compare a situation like that to Kg’s I think it’s disrespectful,Kg went through her own personal hell with the management at JYP USA,almost died..but at the end of the day she HERSELF is fighting for what’s wrong and right unlike NJ who are willingly and blindly following MHJ’s orders and that’s why nothing they say will ever feel authentic and genuine because we all know the how manipulative and disgusting the woman they love is
@HaysNotokayYes they are 😭 If that wasn't the case then why would this video even be made?
What happen??
VCHA sued - got support
New Jeans left and sued - getting called liars, ungrateful, etc
@@animenation2500vcha is not getting as much support as you think! K nets are saying they are being over dramatic and should stop complaining. Last I checked njs wasn’t starved and berated to the point members were self harming and one tried to k*ll themself.