Another great video, thank you. Completely agree, maddog bikes are the best way to learn flat track. Depending on the district/series, it can be relatively cheap to be competitive, too! Also enjoyed the focus on safety gear, it's so overlooked. Motocross gear is fine for beginners, but there are definitely better gear setups out there. There are studies that have shown a majority of fatal flat track accidents are the result of abdominal injuries - don't overlook a quality flat track chest protector. There's a safety perspective to having a steel shoe, too. Being able to safely plant your foot when the front tire is washing out is important in my opinion. Last bit: I appreciate your videos with Davey. Just got a set of springs he made me for a ice/FT bike I'm building. Would be nice to have him in a future video explaining the basics/importance of valving in FT suspension. Previous videos have focused on geometry and ride height, but I know part of the "secret sauce" in his conversions is the valving. There's not much publicly available information on the topic of how it differs from moto/stock valving. Thank you!
Just getting into flat tracking here in Tennessee we are doing more of like optical turns not oval tracks the 3 races we have ran is at county fair grounds in their rodeo arenas so its short and tight turns . Do you have any videos of how to set up for sharp turns . From what i see its who gets the jump then follow the leader . But when i was cart racing i always like running high outside and being side ways instead of running in pack . Im 52 years old and weigh 240 running in 250 fourstroke class and having a blast . Makes me feel like in 16 again. Your videos are getting addictive i watch 2-4 each week and every time i get info to use .
You mentioned many places to practice but not the desert. I would have thought that would have been the first place mentioned. Good video non-the-less.
Mike, I'm building a bike. What tires should I use / do you recommend? I would like to keep them 16", front and rear. (I'm considering building my front wheel from a rear rim.) This will also be my cornerspin bike. Thank you!
I've used quite a few different tires on stock wheels. Currently I have the Pirelli Scooter tire as a rear, and the old Dunlop FT race tire on the front (K180???). But that combo might work a bit better on harder surfaces. Bridgestone Trailwings always seemed like the best all-around tire and worked great at Cornerspin. The young bucks are making what looks like a trials tire run up front. I'll see if I can get one along to opine.
Hey @longdogracing one of those young bucks here. I have been running the shinko 241 trials style tires. Less than $100 a set and they seem to work pretty much anywhere from hard pack to a medium loose surface. I have even ran them on a Moto track for fun. If you have to have a 16” front wheel it is possible to swap on an xr80 front wheel without much modification.
Thanks mike, thanks hooligan. I know about the xr80 wheel. I think it is cheaper for me to just build one with a rear rim, front hub, and a spoke kit from Buchanan. I would appreciate specific links to these tires you guys are referring to, if possible. I know that might shield lazy on my part, but I'm really trying to dial in exactly what you are talking about.
Hands down the best 16" FT tire is the Mitas MC32. They're awesome for tracks that hold a bit of moisture, still great for drier tracks too. Should also mention, they're what Durelle sells, so clearly Davey likes them too!
I see this is a year old.....who rebuilds the cranks on xr75s-80s-100s? I've been told it can't be done...I have a hard time believing people build these without rebuilding the cranks.i wanted to have one lightened.
I've seen 190lbs guys win in a field stacked with pro-level competition. Since the rider makes up so much of laptime potential in m/c racing, don't let weight worry you. Also, I know guys near and over 300lbs that can haul the mail.
Thanks for the video!
Merry Christmas!
Another great video, thank you. Completely agree, maddog bikes are the best way to learn flat track. Depending on the district/series, it can be relatively cheap to be competitive, too!
Also enjoyed the focus on safety gear, it's so overlooked. Motocross gear is fine for beginners, but there are definitely better gear setups out there. There are studies that have shown a majority of fatal flat track accidents are the result of abdominal injuries - don't overlook a quality flat track chest protector. There's a safety perspective to having a steel shoe, too. Being able to safely plant your foot when the front tire is washing out is important in my opinion.
Last bit: I appreciate your videos with Davey. Just got a set of springs he made me for a ice/FT bike I'm building. Would be nice to have him in a future video explaining the basics/importance of valving in FT suspension. Previous videos have focused on geometry and ride height, but I know part of the "secret sauce" in his conversions is the valving. There's not much publicly available information on the topic of how it differs from moto/stock valving. Thank you!
We appreciate the video man !
Just getting into flat tracking here in Tennessee we are doing more of like optical turns not oval tracks the 3 races we have ran is at county fair grounds in their rodeo arenas so its short and tight turns . Do you have any videos of how to set up for sharp turns . From what i see its who gets the jump then follow the leader . But when i was cart racing i always like running high outside and being side ways instead of running in pack . Im 52 years old and weigh 240 running in 250 fourstroke class and having a blast . Makes me feel like in 16 again. Your videos are getting addictive i watch 2-4 each week and every time i get info to use .
Nice video!! been trying to find a bone stock xr 100 myself to hone in my skills in the stock/mod class
Sweet! Let us know what you find.
You mentioned many places to practice but not the desert. I would have thought that would have been the first place mentioned. Good video non-the-less.
Not sure how I missed that one.
Thank you very much for the video! I plan to follow your advice to a t!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video!
Mike, I'm building a bike. What tires should I use / do you recommend? I would like to keep them 16", front and rear. (I'm considering building my front wheel from a rear rim.) This will also be my cornerspin bike. Thank you!
I've used quite a few different tires on stock wheels. Currently I have the Pirelli Scooter tire as a rear, and the old Dunlop FT race tire on the front (K180???). But that combo might work a bit better on harder surfaces. Bridgestone Trailwings always seemed like the best all-around tire and worked great at Cornerspin. The young bucks are making what looks like a trials tire run up front. I'll see if I can get one along to opine.
Hey @longdogracing one of those young bucks here. I have been running the shinko 241 trials style tires. Less than $100 a set and they seem to work pretty much anywhere from hard pack to a medium loose surface. I have even ran them on a Moto track for fun. If you have to have a 16” front wheel it is possible to swap on an xr80 front wheel without much modification.
Thanks mike, thanks hooligan. I know about the xr80 wheel. I think it is cheaper for me to just build one with a rear rim, front hub, and a spoke kit from Buchanan. I would appreciate specific links to these tires you guys are referring to, if possible. I know that might shield lazy on my part, but I'm really trying to dial in exactly what you are talking about.
Hands down the best 16" FT tire is the Mitas MC32. They're awesome for tracks that hold a bit of moisture, still great for drier tracks too.
Should also mention, they're what Durelle sells, so clearly Davey likes them too!
Thanks for the feedback!
I see this is a year old.....who rebuilds the cranks on xr75s-80s-100s? I've been told it can't be done...I have a hard time believing people build these without rebuilding the cranks.i wanted to have one lightened.
What weight would be too much for this class? Could a 17 year old be competitive at 170 pounds?
I've seen 190lbs guys win in a field stacked with pro-level competition. Since the rider makes up so much of laptime potential in m/c racing, don't let weight worry you. Also, I know guys near and over 300lbs that can haul the mail.
We appreciate the video man !