These are the same price I think as Indy Titanium’s. Very luxurious truck at that price. The gang that is buying these is the big $$$ gang. Thanks for the detailed review.
Funny that it's considered as an expensive truck in the comments. Over here (sweden) thunders, ventures, indys and even the standard slappys are basically the same price as the hollow lurpivs. +/- $10. For a set of standard indys we're talking about $85 and for the lurpiv hollows it's $94. So i guess where you're located makes a big difference in price?
They just need to make an inverted one now and put a little hole somewhere in the baseplate to let skaters peek in to see how tight the kingpin nut is. It probably won't make the truck weaker if it's away from the mounting bolt holes and would give some weight saving.
They're a beautiful truck. Really interesting "anti-wheelbite" technology. I tried some at the park and they are super fun and have a super nice turn. I'm skating Indy Stage 4 trucks atm - if they made these in a 169 size I'd buy them instantly.
I would argue that ace and independent should be at least 80 bucks rather than these should be less because the mark up on hard goods is terrible. Literally a standard retail mark up in any other industry would put trucks at 80-90 bucks and decks at 100 but for some reason in skateboarding we’ve always operated on smaller margins which is why skate shops always struggle.
@@PsychoCitySkateboards maybe so but most retail industries survive off keystone margins or higher. I wish we could make those kind of margins on hard goods. Shits tough out there! I don’t want things to be more expensive but I would like to see more healthy skate shops
they remind me of another truck, in looks.... venture? thunder? and there is one other that may not be around any more..... had them back in the I think mid 2010s
@@bluetileskateboards I am probably wrong, but yeah, I do remember some truck for the late 70s having that square look.... but there has been a surprising number of truck companies around that I dont think exist anymore, that were around in the early 2000's-2010s or so
Independent 109 trucks look like that w/o the hang up issues and as for "truck bite" bones hard bushings do the same w/o messing with grinds or needing new trucks instead of new bushings.
Interesting trucks for sure. I might try these if they come down in price and IKP. Currently rocking some 166 stage 4 Indy’s. Man if they made stage 4s inverted that would be awesome. I got some stage 11 159s on some ikp baseplates for my winkowski deck and it’s pretty awesome…
@@caseycameron5370 naw bro. people (millennials) remember Grind King. One for goofy baseplates. Two for one of the nastiest product scandals in the history of skateboarding.
I'm not into them. I haven't tried them but from what I know. Feels a little like cheating because they can't give you wheelbite. It binds up way before that. They also don't pinch the whole way, probably why he had to modify his setup to acccomplish feebles. They sound cool if you want that feature, but let's just say if it was up to me, scrutineering, they wouldn't be allowed in a competition.
you still get wheel bite with them. it doesn't fully prevent wheel bite. no more cheating that waxing a ledge or using rails I think? or even waxing your wheel wells so that it doesn't pinch. these trucks definitely aren't for everyone though! hah
@@DavidBluetile Thanks for the reply, David. Like I said, I haven’t skated them so I can’t say for certain what they do! But if you watch sls for a little bit though, you’ll see it’s pretty normal for people to not roll away when they land with their weight weird and end up with wheelbite. They can usually hit the trick but landing is where other things can happen. If you make a truck that negates wheelbite by binding on the pivot rod that is sort of like cheating to me. Where a lowered kingpin might change truck geometry it doesn’t make anything easier or harder, not by any observable margin anyway. Also it can be argued that wax is only to be used on a ‘as needed’ basis, same for deck rails. I run homemade wheelwells (made with a drum sander bit) on my 8.3 with slappy trucks and 56mm dragon wheels. It doesn’t wheelbite anymore but it still almost gouges the wheelwells. They’re big, heavy wheels! I wouldn’t run wheelwells just because lol That binding looks like a feature to me, and that’s okay. For the most part, anyway. Like I said, I wouldn’t like to see it in a comp, that’s all. It would also make loose trucks too overpowered. What’s their only con? Wheelbite. It’ll be difficult to change my mind. It’s not the first time I think about this, either. 😅
@@haroldcampos9661with that logic wouldn’t risers or wheel wells also be considered cheating? Also for reference I skate 62mm wheels rn with aces and a 1/8” riser 😹
@@kennyhuh09 It's not a slippery slope kind of position, imo. But if it was, I would be saying by extension these are softrucks2.0 For a street league type comp this is cheating, to me. (Hypothetically) Nobody gets an advantage from risers on street. If anything they could delay your pop. Any advantage is inconsequential. Same for big wheels, not a notable advantage on a smooth street course. And they're heavy, so that's mostly a con. I would rather pass wheelwells than lurpiv lol Wheelwells know they're possibly gaming the system, they just don't deny it. They exist for that function pretty much exclusively... these are trucks with a unique, somewhat secret feature that could be considered cheating. Even if they exist for similar reasons. Wheelwells give you clearance as needed, like I said before. This binds up and locks you out of a pinch or wheelbite. They solve the same singular problem in two quite different ways. Wheelwells isn't sponsoring people to endorse anything. I don't have it in for the product, but I do have opinions, concerns, etc.
The ring around the kingpin/bushings is called a yoke.
thank you!
These are the same price I think as Indy Titanium’s. Very luxurious truck at that price. The gang that is buying these is the big $$$ gang. Thanks for the detailed review.
I love the special red urethane pivot cups of the Indy Bar Flat Blacks. They feel much nicer to ride than the standard black ones.
Funny that it's considered as an expensive truck in the comments. Over here (sweden) thunders, ventures, indys and even the standard slappys are basically the same price as the hollow lurpivs. +/- $10. For a set of standard indys we're talking about $85 and for the lurpiv hollows it's $94. So i guess where you're located makes a big difference in price?
Cannot wait to rock these!
They just need to make an inverted one now and put a little hole somewhere in the baseplate to let skaters peek in to see how tight the kingpin nut is. It probably won't make the truck weaker if it's away from the mounting bolt holes and would give some weight saving.
"and put a little hole somewhere in the baseplate to let skaters peek in to see how tight the kingpin nut is"
lol
They're a beautiful truck. Really interesting "anti-wheelbite" technology. I tried some at the park and they are super fun and have a super nice turn. I'm skating Indy Stage 4 trucks atm - if they made these in a 169 size I'd buy them instantly.
yeah I needed a bigger size as well. irving got those 8.25
New perm, new trucks.
Because it is so square, it is a Cybertruck.....
lol brought out the scale just for show 🤓😂
Didn’t weigh any of the trucks
I edited it out because it was so long lol
Wild! So they can't articulate beyond a certain point.
Also that swoop bit on Indy's made me hang up countless times so made me try other stuff.
indy 11s are 55mm as well..
Tall trucks. They remind me of Ace Trucks in regards to height
theyre actually the same height as standard independent.
They are made in China at the same factory as Indy and Ace . Should be no more than $60 a set
I would argue that ace and independent should be at least 80 bucks rather than these should be less because the mark up on hard goods is terrible. Literally a standard retail mark up in any other industry would put trucks at 80-90 bucks and decks at 100 but for some reason in skateboarding we’ve always operated on smaller margins which is why skate shops always struggle.
Probably because if it got more expensive with a higher mark up skateboarding wouldn’t survive
@@PsychoCitySkateboards maybe so but most retail industries survive off keystone margins or higher. I wish we could make those kind of margins on hard goods. Shits tough out there! I don’t want things to be more expensive but I would like to see more healthy skate shops
Thanks guys!
4:57 speed ring, washer
Very disappointed we didn't get weights.
I weighed em all but!! it was 27 damn minutes long so I cut it. ill post the results in the description.
4:08 it's the yoke!
thanks!! I think I have learned this 19 times and forget all the time.
I was about to comment this!
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hey hey. thanks for coming by and leaving a comment. super appreciated
they remind me of another truck, in looks.... venture? thunder? and there is one other that may not be around any more..... had them back in the I think mid 2010s
I dont know. the aesthetic is pretty original. there was a truck in the 70 that kinda had this vibe.
@@bluetileskateboards I am probably wrong, but yeah, I do remember some truck for the late 70s having that square look.... but there has been a surprising number of truck companies around that I dont think exist anymore, that were around in the early 2000's-2010s or so
6:57 standard independents are 55mm
yeah the indy guy in me got off my seat fast af lol they are I guess the tallest along with indy AND krux
4:09 yoke?
these are literally fullsized blackriver trucks
Nahhh brt is different, brt is look like ace trucks
Independent 109 trucks look like that w/o the hang up issues and as for "truck bite" bones hard bushings do the same w/o messing with grinds or needing new trucks instead of new bushings.
Interesting trucks for sure. I might try these if they come down in price and IKP. Currently rocking some 166 stage 4 Indy’s. Man if they made stage 4s inverted that would be awesome. I got some stage 11 159s on some ikp baseplates for my winkowski deck and it’s pretty awesome…
Nobody ever remembers Fury or Destructo trucks. :(
And grindking
@@caseycameron5370 naw bro. people (millennials) remember Grind King. One for goofy baseplates. Two for one of the nastiest product scandals in the history of skateboarding.
No more wheel bite but would that be called hanger bite? Worse? 🤔 They can keep them for that price lol Nice try to be diff though.
FR, why TF would I want to bite sooner?
Hanger bite won't stop youn in your tracks.
@@VhaidraSaga True but i dunno man. Having your truck stop turning when you expect it to turn could lead to some serious situations...
@@billandhisboardhe didnt mention it not turning enough at all. They turn real sharp
these trucks would look snazzy with a set of spitfire tablets!
hah yeah. just everything super geometric lol
the names too lame to get me to buy them. Lurpiv? wtf is a Lurpiv?
I could never skate trucks that look like Lurpiv
This is silly just ride indy or venture. Pick one and chill
how bout thunder?
Venture grind and turn bad. And Ace is a better Indy so I'm staying there for now
angular lol
very geometric haha
I'm not into them. I haven't tried them but from what I know. Feels a little like cheating because they can't give you wheelbite. It binds up way before that. They also don't pinch the whole way, probably why he had to modify his setup to acccomplish feebles. They sound cool if you want that feature, but let's just say if it was up to me, scrutineering, they wouldn't be allowed in a competition.
you still get wheel bite with them. it doesn't fully prevent wheel bite. no more cheating that waxing a ledge or using rails I think? or even waxing your wheel wells so that it doesn't pinch. these trucks definitely aren't for everyone though! hah
@@DavidBluetile Thanks for the reply, David. Like I said, I haven’t skated them so I can’t say for certain what they do! But if you watch sls for a little bit though, you’ll see it’s pretty normal for people to not roll away when they land with their weight weird and end up with wheelbite. They can usually hit the trick but landing is where other things can happen.
If you make a truck that negates wheelbite by binding on the pivot rod that is sort of like cheating to me. Where a lowered kingpin might change truck geometry it doesn’t make anything easier or harder, not by any observable margin anyway. Also it can be argued that wax is only to be used on a ‘as needed’ basis, same for deck rails.
I run homemade wheelwells (made with a drum sander bit) on my 8.3 with slappy trucks and 56mm dragon wheels. It doesn’t wheelbite anymore but it still almost gouges the wheelwells. They’re big, heavy wheels! I wouldn’t run wheelwells just because lol
That binding looks like a feature to me, and that’s okay. For the most part, anyway. Like I said, I wouldn’t like to see it in a comp, that’s all. It would also make loose trucks too overpowered. What’s their only con? Wheelbite. It’ll be difficult to change my mind. It’s not the first time I think about this, either. 😅
@@haroldcampos9661with that logic wouldn’t risers or wheel wells also be considered cheating? Also for reference I skate 62mm wheels rn with aces and a 1/8” riser 😹
@@kennyhuh09 It's not a slippery slope kind of position, imo. But if it was, I would be saying by extension these are softrucks2.0
For a street league type comp this is cheating, to me. (Hypothetically)
Nobody gets an advantage from risers on street. If anything they could delay your pop. Any advantage is inconsequential. Same for big wheels, not a notable advantage on a smooth street course. And they're heavy, so that's mostly a con. I would rather pass wheelwells than lurpiv lol
Wheelwells know they're possibly gaming the system, they just don't deny it. They exist for that function pretty much exclusively... these are trucks with a unique, somewhat secret feature that could be considered cheating. Even if they exist for similar reasons.
Wheelwells give you clearance as needed, like I said before. This binds up and locks you out of a pinch or wheelbite. They solve the same singular problem in two quite different ways. Wheelwells isn't sponsoring people to endorse anything.
I don't have it in for the product, but I do have opinions, concerns, etc.
@@DavidBluetile or putting a yoga mat on a rail so you can manage it (jokes)
To be honest just sayingggggg these and slappy trucks are super similar. Only difference is that pivot point.
They look like cheap trucks to me, looks like a truck on old ass crappy trucks