In Arkham city right before the big reveal, joker asked how do you keep a secret from the world's greatest detective. He answered, you place it right in front of him. Jason has been front of Bruce this whole time.
In Arkham Knight, Batman has to figure out the identity of the Arkham Knight, Batman will never find out until he gets jason's mask off The joker was right when he said that about Bruce because not even the greatest detective could guess the Arkam Knight's identity even when the answer was in front of him the whole time
I love how the video is portrayed as Batman returning to the abandoned Asylum after years and putting together what happened to Jason through all the clues he missed.
Imagine if we got Arkham Knight DLC that takes place before Scarecrow's defeat: We get to fully explore a recreated map of Arkham Asylum's Arkham Island, Have some militia as our enemies in the old predator/combat rooms (they're doing a sweep of the place before 'Crow captures the Bat), and we're there to piece Jason's capture together just like this video, and the op's idea. In an Origins-fashion where we peer at clues and *Rewind* the moments of Jason being tortured and etc. just like when we were tracking Barbara from the car wreck. Batman could say "I shouldn't have overlooked this before" or something. I dislike Batman's reaction to Todd in Knight bc he didnt act on any suspicions. Would've preferred this over Arkham VR/Shadow
true, but there is a cell in Arkham Asylum, which was probably Jason's cell. On the walls, were drawn of Batman, Joker, and Red Hood (Jason) also, Jason was probably tortured at Arkham Asylum because its not just that wheel chair, its everywhere!
Marjo Thibaut-Walker yes but the wheel chair still spinning could have indicated that Jason was now taken out if the chair and hidden. That’s why Batman wasn’t allowed in the penitentiary, so Joke could hide him.
Jason Todd had a sadder backstory than Bruce Wayne. Not only did Jason not have parents but he was made a soldier by Bruce and then tortured by joker and killed. His entire life was terrible.
@@thiccwine6091 nope he never died in the arkhamverse joker wanted slade to kill him but Jason bribed slade and slade got jason out during the boss fight in arkham asylum
It's amazing bc it invites you to think just like Batman himself. I like to play Asylum in a Batman 2022 style where I walk really slowly and scan the rooms. I enjoy exploring every room even if theres no objectives/missions for it bsides Raddler.
They should've added in a theme for Jason whenever you walk in that area and not explained it until Arkham Knight where it plays during the Arkham Knight scenes
They probably weren’t thinking that far ahead when making Asylum. They probably were thinking of including Red Hood when making city. There’s an homage to Death in the Family in the very first shot of the game if you have the catwoman DLC.
@@sergioizzaqt7707 Correct. Asylum was meant to be a celebration for Batman’s 70th, Arkham City wasn’t a sure thing when they made it; and I doubt Paul Dini had plans for Jason. I think Dini had the intention of making Hush the villain but he didn’t want to come back and Rocksteady did their own thing.
@@TBWL195 it wasnt. That room only exists because they just so happened to start planning city during arkhams development. They went in only intending to do one game and decided midway through to do city
Jason's fate in the Arkhamverse is so much worse than in the comics. Sure, being brutally beaten by a bar until he's bloody, and then being blown-up is bad (that's a lot of B's), but being physically and mentally tortured for well over a year, taught that the person he looked up to is the bad guy, left alone in the darkness for long periods of time, made to suffer the abuse at the hands of multiple different people who enjoyed it so much, and slowly losing hope that the one person he counted on coming to his aid had forgotten about him.... Jason has every right to be angry.
not to mention but its highly implied that he wasnt just tortured by being beaten but also sexually as well..the jason in the arkhamverse was truly broken.
agreed and coming from someone who was kidnapped and brutally tortured myself for 5 years it leaves you a different person afterwards..one that is always angry and spiteful..sometimes to where you hurt those close to you
Just knowing these awful things took place in these all room we visited during playing without being aware who was TORTURED here makes it really disturbing
I just wandered around Gotham for 2 hours that map is incredibly detailed it takes my breath away and fills me with awe seriously I love the attention to detail. I’ve had the game since it came out and I discovered so many new places just tonight
I knew they were referencing Jason when Joker said “it looks like you could use a new sidekick” implying that Jason was just recently “killed” by Joker, but I never knew the Jason references were this deep!
Also, if you play as Robin in the DLC Joker’s Funfair Combat Challenge in Arkham City, one of Joker’s intro dialogues is “Hey, didn’t I kill you already?”
@@alejandros.9523 Imagine taking offense to that. If I could broadcast to you every person in the world who says "oh my god", would your head explode like a overblown watermelon from the sheer energy of disrespect? I'm kind of tempted to try, with how amusing that image would be.
I did some investigating from sources in Arkham knights city stories”the fall”. It said that Jason came from the kindergarten. And followed a blood trail. So i did the same and it lead me all across the asylum map. Showed me where he was tortured in the penitentiary, sanatorium, kindergarten, intense treatment and worst of all. The asylum bat cave
@@tonyvodka4358 Joker knows all the identities of the bat family but never came after bruce wayne or any of their civilian self's because as joker said his problem is with Batman not bruce wayne
@Justin WZRD what it is is a case of re used assets, this isn't actually where he got jokerd, it's just the same game asset because the developers didn't think anyone would notice
I couldn't find the place where he died for some reason and I was constantly looking for it with my mind racing and then I somehow ended up getting dizzy and passing out. I never played arkham asylum since.
I don’t think they were thinking this far ahead when making Arkham Asylum but they clearly did look back and improvised as best they could. Mind-blowing nonetheless.
no, hush - Thomas Elliot was a doctor until he disappeared and the the identity thief (name from the press) started murdering which turned out to be him and he cascaded as Bruce but failed to kill him
Lol ikr, thoose 80s comic fans were really salty about Jason existing, I have been reading the old comics of his time as Robin and he wasn't even that bratty, and less compare to Damien, like yeah he could be annoying at times but not to wish the death of a child 0-0 at least his "death" make him have one of the best character development from the Bat-family and make him to be the cool Red Hood .
this is so upsetting, i teared up 😢 jason's torture and murder in the comics is bad yes but at least that wasn't over an entire YEAR... this is so messed up you're the first one i've seen to show that solitary room, and the 'j peter'... god
@@Fmp.Macklin I mean he was, and excuse my French, a dick in the comics. People actually called in for him to be killed on the vote. No one liked him, he also killed the criminals when he was robin, but Batman Arkham Knight doesn’t’t focus on that, he was actually tortured for six months in an abandoned toy factory, Krank’s toy factory I think. Joker had rigged the place to explode when Batman got there, and he carried his lifeless corpse out of the factory. But this was in the comics.
@@bentheeveryman3635 i think i heard somewhere that someone threatened if they didnt kill jason todd something bad wouldve happen oh and he also rigged the votes
@@gregwilliams1879 works of fiction are meant to cause a reaction from people, horror stories are fiction yet they scare and traumatize many people, Jason's story is a tragedy and although it's not real they make sure you feel bad for him by describing and showing in every detail the horrible things he went through.
@@itzrealkcdixon No he said in arkham knight that he was tortured for over a year in arkham asylum and never actually died. Play the game stupid fuck This isn't the comics. Not to mention not once does Talia, Ra's, or Nyssa mention Jason being brought there also confirming he never died.
In my opinion, Arkham Asylum was terrifying. I remember playing it as a kid and I had nightmares... Swore to never play it again I was so scared lol Edit: Thank you for the likes, I appreciate it.
The part in Arkham Knight when joker showed the picture of Batman and the new robin who was Tim Drake. Joker tells Jason he’s been replaced cause he’s a twisted serial killer but I always like to think Bruce was searching every night up until that video and took in a new Robin because he was desperate and wanted as many eyes out in the field as possible and needed all the help he could get.
It was definitely during it was open cause joker mentions to batman when you are going to save Gordon that he might give you Harley cause batman was without a sidekick
The asylum was still active when Jason was being tortured he escaped while Batman and Joker were fighting on the roof of the penitentiary at the end if anyone didn't know it was actually Deathstroke who helped Jason escape
My heart literally cramped while I was watching this video. Jason has been my favourite character for a long time now and seeing this video just made me feel so bad for him.
not only was jason held at arkham for a point, he was actually being held there during the events of arkham asylum, however during batman and titan jokers final confrontation jason escaped from the island with deathstroke, they then went to wayne industries where jason stole some money and gave it to deathstroke, and a super interesting part about this is tim drake would actually catch jason and deathstroke doing this, but tim didnt know it was jason since he was wearing deathstrokes mask, and there is actually alot more interesting stuff about jason in the arkham series, like how he was actually also in arkham city during the events of that game and was watching batman and joker, and during his time here he would actually run into joker where joker would strike a conversation with him
I like this part 2. It really shows that for whatever reason Joker took Jason all over Arkham island to torture him. Not sure why but he IS insain. Also the grave with the visible coffin. I'd find it interesting if Jason was behind that. Like if Joker put him there and Jason somehow got out. Anyway great video keep it up and I'm surprised you read this whole comment. (sorry about that)
Don't be surprised you are a fan aren't you? And if your not already I urge you to subscribe be one of the OG's because mark my words I will make it to 1,000 subs
@@dibbage I have subscribed and I wish you luck to reach 1,000 subs. P.S I just rechecked and I'm surprised you only have 54 or so subscribers! Your content is really good and you deserve more subs. Keep up the good work.
I mean you'd assume he was an actual physician at Arkham but then in Arkham City he's supposedly part of the medical unit (new guy, low profile as described by his colleagues) there before peeling his own face off and then committing the identity murders, not to mention that cheap plan that was his endgame all along in Knight. plus you've got pieces of lore in Asylum that hint toward a much lengthier career for Batman and descriptions for the numerous foes that he's supposedly faced over the years that he later proceeds to encounter for the first time in later games (i.e. Hush, Hugo Strange etc.). not trying to shit on Rocksteady or anything but some of the pieces are missing and/or add up.
I believe the names on the board (1:44) were for the appointments each villain made to torture and humiliate Jason Todd.It’s been confirmed in the Arkham comics
The timeline works if you think of Jason having just been "killed" (Joker sent footage of Jason dying) *just* before Arkham Asylum, if Dick is already Nightwing, and you look at the "A Matter of Family" DLC as a nice dream Barbara has after getting engaged to Tim (why else would a Starro be in that one vent?). Seeing blood that seems a bit old, but not cleaned yet, that could very plausibly be Jason's in the Asylum made me think this way. It could factor into my big "obviously not what the canon intended but is fun to think about" theory. Thank you.
This just made this game a whole lot creepier and haunting. But love this game. Each character has a whole lot of backstory and those are actually showed as references in arkham series. The perfection and attention to detail is mind blowing ❤️
It shocked me really when people went though and brighten up the videos of Jason from Arkham knight. Reason being how rocksteady did a full circle with there game series. Here is what I mean. In Arkham asylum from 2009 was a fun game. Main villains to fight of course but what I really enjoyed about Arkham to this day is the hidden Easter eggs. Like the office of Quincy sharp hinting Arkham city years before it was to come out. This clip here of showing where Jason was in the first Arkham game and many others. It all ties great
The blood is dark so it could mean that when The joker got caught this was also his plan as well 🤔🤷♂️.Also the first place is where he got tortured and then put to his cell and so on!Really sad for what Jason had to go through 😔
Keep in mind arkham asylum takes place a year after jasons death he was replaced by tim 6 months later make this tims ending of his 1 year as robin witch mean jason is planning to become arkham knight in 2 years
@@alexmendez7546 What if that coffin never has Armedus and knowing joker had Jason hidden in that coffin and why you can hear a bang when you’re near 🤷♂️
If you listen closely you can still hear the screams of Jason, echo throughout the halls of the abandoned facility of the asylum. Ever wondered why Jason named himself the Arkham Knight? 1:44
The thought that Jason was likely in the bowels of the Asylum while batman was beating the crap out of joker makes that game even darker. I say likely as they never go into specifics on when he finally got out, or I just missed that part.
Mad. I've seen multiple such vidoes, but none compare to this one. The evidences you brought forth to show where exactly, in Arkham Asylum, Jason was being held captive are absolutely amazing. One can clearly see the resemblances between the rooms from the AK flashbacks and AA actual rooms. World's greatest detective.
Glad this wasn't one of those clickbait videos, I actually loved learning new cool things about one of my favorite videogames in my favorite video game saga, thank you so much for sharing this! Really got me thinking if Rocksteady was considering, even a little bit, the whole Jason Todd thing during the development of Arkham Asylum...
@@nickdiazarmymfers8582 no cause the room in the medical centre isn't where Jason was because it's said that he's kept in an abandoned wing of arkham which couldn't be accessed during the first game. The tape shown is from the Arkham VR game and the room was just a reused model
This whole video is giving me horror vibes especially with Batman slowly walking around in the asylum by himself plus these scene transitions at the highest volume just make my heart skip a beat every time they occur
@@marjothibaut-walker7195 pls research more joker was red hood he wore the helmet before Jason was even born Jason took dat identity to mock Batman and joker for Batman letting joker fall in them chemical creating the monster joker is now and for joker what is the reason he is who he is
@@mW-yp9gn it’s the challenge map in the Batman Arkham knight the medical facility the one before the first encounter of scarecrow in the Arkham asylum
1:53 Did u know the Thomas Elliot riddle has another riddle hidden on it? Look on the botton right under nurses. The ones with non days like Mon or Tuesday. The Ones under the R for Oliver queen and Jason Peter todd
The messed up thing is that Batman and Jason were actually in the same place at the same time it's just that Joker kept moving Jason around so Batman couldn't see him
Man, I always knew Arkham Asylum was dark and creepy asf, but damn!!! Knowing that there’s some references to Jason Todd makes it even more scarier and creepier than a horror film
watching this is really making me sad and felt sorry to jason. cause he's been tortured by joker, got locked up without anyone else around and feel alone, and worse of all he's been alone with joker in there for a year thinking that bruce forget about him but he didn't
Jason was kept underground in a abandoned wing of the asylum, a place only he, Jake boles and Quinn knew about. He wasn’t tortured there, that place was for the video. And that cell, that might have been used but not a lot or the doctors would notice him. He had to be underground on a abandoned wing of the asylum.
The moment in Arkham Knight after the stealth battle where Bruce is about to batter him but can’t bring himself to do it has so much emotional weight. It’s hard to blame Jason for anything he did, to Bruce or the city that made his life hell
when Batman was trying to save Gordon and joker said he might give him Harley as a new sidekick if he succeeds... So that means arkham asylum takes place just recently after the disappearance of Jason and just before Batman recruited Tim. And when Batman brought joker in the asylum at the beginning of the game, everyone was saying that joker just recently escaped and it's also when the joker's patient interviews with Harley were recorded and he were probably able to torture Jason with the help of both Harley and Boles... But then I remembered that in arkham knight, joker was showing pictures to Jason that Batman already replaced him with Tim so I don't know...
But if we keep in mind the Batgirl DLC in Knight that also has Tim, then when would it have happened exactly at that point? Because Jason did say he was tortured by Joker for two years and it was revealed in the comics that the night that Asylum takes place was when he escaped with Deathstroke after originally being hired to kill Jason by Joker. Maybe had just begun at the point of the DLC starting? Which also begs the question, was Joker keeping what he was doing to Jason a secret from Harley so he could have all the fun to himself, considering there’s dialogue from her in Knight that indicates that she knew about what happened, but only because Joker told her what happened.
@@bichyas3741nope. Harley and even other villains such as Penguin, Two Face, and even Killer Croc were aware of Jason’s torture sessions because they downright had both Joker and Frank Boles permission to have occasional torture sessions with Jason in which they would physically and psychologically abuse Jason
Interesting fact: in Arkham Origins you can see Batman's investigation about Red Hood in Batcave with some newspaper clippings about him. But i think there's might be some plot hole cause Joker said Batman appeared 2 years ago before AO plot.
God I wish there was a level where Jason had actually got to Joker before he died and beat the crap out of him with a crowbar that would have been an awesome level
Wow, I've been playing Arkham Asylum for years as it's my favourite video game of all time and yet I never noticed that cell with the drawings inside it.
Look at the thomas Elliot riddle in arkham asylum. Nurse nine. But also look what else was there. Oliver(R),Queen(R) and J.peter(R). It looks like he was dragged out of that room but was able to get a message on the board. Which hints to green arrows real name and Jason Peter Todd's full name.
There are also writings from Jason in the gardens where shut off the power. If you go up the ladder where the riddler trophy is along the wall you see it. Just zoom in. I believe he's making reference to the archam knight game
The timeline for when Jason’s torture began is what I want to know, considering it did last two years and was shown to have happened before the Batgirl DLC in Knight, and apparently in the comics the night of Joker taking over the asylum, Jason ended up escaping with Deathstroke. It also begs the question when did Joker and Harley meet after Joker began torturing Jason? Because based on Harley’s dialogue when she has Tim cornered, she was never a contributor to Jason’s suffering, just told what happened by Joker. Maybe Joker was still torturing him, but kept it a secret from Harley just so he could be the only one having his fun with Jason? Because remember in Asylum if you enter the building where you first come across Scarecrow and Bane where Harley’s at, Joker says, “What’s he doing here? It’s too early!”, and it was proven Joker moved him around all different parts of the Asylum. Maybe Joker needed a bit of time to move Jason before Batman got in so he wouldn’t find Jason?
Nope. Harley was involved in Jason’s torture, alongside: Penguin, Two Face, Killer Croc, Bane, Zzsas, Calendar Man, and even Scarecrow whom all physically beat and emotionally tormented Jason.
Guys I found the exact place where jason was in arkham asylum .....he was in the record wing of arkham mansion not the record office,the hall. Just on the opposite side of dr.youngs office which can be visited through bringing down the wall with batclaw,when you find the trophy, you can see rocks shattered and behind them is a staircase going downwards where jason was throughout the game
That’s an interesting detail. Though, I believe this is simply just a case of them reusing the asset for the cutscene. This wing was definitely not abandoned.
That’s so crazy because earlier I was free roaming in Arkham Asylum and went to the location where he was tortured and where he drew the scribbles on the wall and didn’t think anything of it until I just finished Arkham Knight right now it’s currently 5:45am (Idk why I said that) but I looked it up out of curiosity after seeing the Arkham Knights identity as Jason Todd and how he saved batman at the end.
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In Arkham city right before the big reveal, joker asked how do you keep a secret from the world's greatest detective. He answered, you place it right in front of him. Jason has been front of Bruce this whole time.
what do u mean?
In Arkham Knight, Batman has to figure out the identity of the Arkham Knight, Batman will never find out until he gets jason's mask off
The joker was right when he said that about Bruce because not even the greatest detective could guess the Arkam Knight's identity even when the answer was in front of him the whole time
@@NR-dy6rb the reason why Batman didn’t know sooner was because he was trying to solve The Ridders’s riddles for the 800th time.
@@irhungry66 lmao true af
@@irhungry66 Gold Star Comment!
“You wanna know where joker kept me? You were always soooo close”
How does it feel to be dead Cornwall? Lol
@@helmerdelcito3941 😐
@@CatastrophicTV he’s just having a laugh
@@ceedaygaming3505 a bad one.
@@helmerdelcito3941 😂
I love how the video is portrayed as Batman returning to the abandoned Asylum after years and putting together what happened to Jason through all the clues he missed.
Never thought of it that way. Cool interpretation.
Imagine if we got Arkham Knight DLC that takes place before Scarecrow's defeat: We get to fully explore a recreated map of Arkham Asylum's Arkham Island, Have some militia as our enemies in the old predator/combat rooms (they're doing a sweep of the place before 'Crow captures the Bat), and we're there to piece Jason's capture together just like this video, and the op's idea. In an Origins-fashion where we peer at clues and *Rewind* the moments of Jason being tortured and etc. just like when we were tracking Barbara from the car wreck. Batman could say "I shouldn't have overlooked this before" or something. I dislike Batman's reaction to Todd in Knight bc he didnt act on any suspicions. Would've preferred this over Arkham VR/Shadow
Also, there’s a wheel chair that spins by itself in the game that is the same model as the one Jason sits on in Arkham Knight.
Your correct also you should subscribe you notice things very well
true, but there is a cell in Arkham Asylum, which was probably Jason's cell. On the walls, were drawn of Batman, Joker, and Red Hood (Jason) also, Jason was probably tortured at Arkham Asylum because its not just that wheel chair, its everywhere!
@@dibbage nice job you found the cell i was talking about
@@marjothibaut-walker7195 Yes you should also subscribe you are cool 👍
Marjo Thibaut-Walker yes but the wheel chair still spinning could have indicated that Jason was now taken out if the chair and hidden. That’s why Batman wasn’t allowed in the penitentiary, so Joke could hide him.
Jason Todd had a sadder backstory than Bruce Wayne. Not only did Jason not have parents but he was made a soldier by Bruce and then tortured by joker and killed. His entire life was terrible.
Jason was very malicious not made a soldier he was trained and shouldn't have been
His arrogance got him caught by joker. Batman said not to gi after joker himself
@Goku In the comics he died and got brought back with a lazarus pit, so I assume that is what happened in the games aswell
@@thiccwine6091 nope he never died in the arkhamverse joker wanted slade to kill him but Jason bribed slade and slade got jason out during the boss fight in arkham asylum
he not dead he in the latest batman game
What I love about Asylum is that the map and environment tells so many stories and you really feel it when you play the game.
and it's creepy af.
It's amazing bc it invites you to think just like Batman himself. I like to play Asylum in a Batman 2022 style where I walk really slowly and scan the rooms. I enjoy exploring every room even if theres no objectives/missions for it bsides Raddler.
They should've added in a theme for Jason whenever you walk in that area and not explained it until Arkham Knight where it plays during the Arkham Knight scenes
something like a foreshadowing soundtrack
hmm
good idea
They probably weren’t thinking that far ahead when making Asylum. They probably were thinking of including Red Hood when making city. There’s an homage to Death in the Family in the very first shot of the game if you have the catwoman DLC.
@@sergioizzaqt7707 Correct. Asylum was meant to be a celebration for Batman’s 70th, Arkham City wasn’t a sure thing when they made it; and I doubt Paul Dini had plans for Jason. I think Dini had the intention of making Hush the villain but he didn’t want to come back and Rocksteady did their own thing.
@@jacobaarum City was planned from the beginning though considering that one hidden room
@@TBWL195 it wasnt. That room only exists because they just so happened to start planning city during arkhams development. They went in only intending to do one game and decided midway through to do city
Jason's fate in the Arkhamverse is so much worse than in the comics. Sure, being brutally beaten by a bar until he's bloody, and then being blown-up is bad (that's a lot of B's), but being physically and mentally tortured for well over a year, taught that the person he looked up to is the bad guy, left alone in the darkness for long periods of time, made to suffer the abuse at the hands of multiple different people who enjoyed it so much, and slowly losing hope that the one person he counted on coming to his aid had forgotten about him....
Jason has every right to be angry.
I'd easily take a beating and death over a year of torture
@@zapcV yeah
not to mention but its highly implied that he wasnt just tortured by being beaten but also sexually as well..the jason in the arkhamverse was truly broken.
agreed and coming from someone who was kidnapped and brutally tortured myself for 5 years it leaves you a different person afterwards..one that is always angry and spiteful..sometimes to where you hurt those close to you
This is incredible, Arkham Asylum truly is a terrifying game
Damn right.
Just knowing these awful things took place in these all room we visited during playing without being aware who was TORTURED here makes it really disturbing
I hope I'm not the only one emotionally connected to the arkham series. It's so enveloping.
You're not the only one.
@@dylanoshea5065 🤜🤛
I just wandered around Gotham for 2 hours that map is incredibly detailed it takes my breath away and fills me with awe seriously I love the attention to detail. I’ve had the game since it came out and I discovered so many new places just tonight
Everyone is
Nope
I knew they were referencing Jason when Joker said “it looks like you could use a new sidekick” implying that Jason was just recently “killed” by Joker, but I never knew the Jason references were this deep!
@@spudthestud1799 That's why they said "killed" implying his greatly exaggerated torture
Also, if you play as Robin in the DLC Joker’s Funfair Combat Challenge in Arkham City, one of Joker’s intro dialogues is “Hey, didn’t I kill you already?”
12 years later, the eerie creepy atmosphere of this game is still unbearable. This is a testament to how good the game was.
I know Arkham Asylum was a creepy game, but God, this makes it 100 times worse
please don’t use The Lords Name in vain
@@alejandros.9523 Ok
@@alejandros.9523 Oh my god, what are you gonna do
@@CelestialDraconis you may not have the same beliefs as me but why not at least leave it be instead of offending my beliefs even further?
@@alejandros.9523 Imagine taking offense to that. If I could broadcast to you every person in the world who says "oh my god", would your head explode like a overblown watermelon from the sheer energy of disrespect? I'm kind of tempted to try, with how amusing that image would be.
I did some investigating from sources in Arkham knights city stories”the fall”. It said that Jason came from the kindergarten. And followed a blood trail. So i did the same and it lead me all across the asylum map. Showed me where he was tortured in the penitentiary, sanatorium, kindergarten, intense treatment and worst of all. The asylum bat cave
Explain again Wht is the kindergarten
bat cave? so joker knew about it😳
@@tonyvodka4358 Deep, but I think we haven’t discovered all the secrets and Easter eggs on all the Arkham games 🤔
@@tonyvodka4358 Joker knows all the identities of the bat family but never came after bruce wayne or any of their civilian self's because as joker said his problem is with Batman not bruce wayne
@@minxykat7188 he can distinguish between the 2 personalities every batfamily member has. Their civ self and their superhero self.
Goddamn, I found the cell Jason was kept on (and possibly referencing future events) but I never found the medical ward where he was tortured. Damn
it's in the sanatorium in the showers part :)
@Justin WZRD what it is is a case of re used assets, this isn't actually where he got jokerd, it's just the same game asset because the developers didn't think anyone would notice
In the Medical Wing ➡️ Sanatorium ➡️ Bottom Floor (Showers)
I couldn't find the place where he died for some reason and I was constantly looking for it with my mind racing and then I somehow ended up getting dizzy and passing out. I never played arkham asylum since.
I saw Jervis Tetch on the list too. O my gosh!
Wow really? Also u should subscribe man.
He was supposed to be in the game it was going to be a place for kids to wait but they scraped it
And Tommy Elliot hush was jervis’ doctor
Joe Mama really?
DiBBagE yep
I don’t think they were thinking this far ahead when making Arkham Asylum but they clearly did look back and improvised as best they could. Mind-blowing nonetheless.
Yeah, it's great.
I just noticed Identity Theft is on the list!
The more you know, I guess.
@TOXI PT2 also Arkham knight
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I just commented that a few minutes ago
And I just now saw your comment
Nice observation
no, hush - Thomas Elliot was a doctor until he disappeared and the the identity thief (name from the press) started murdering which turned out to be him and he cascaded as Bruce but failed to kill him
@@A_328FL the same person. Obviously.
Let's all remember that the fans caused this to Jason.
Lol ikr, thoose 80s comic fans were really salty about Jason existing, I have been reading the old comics of his time as Robin and he wasn't even that bratty, and less compare to Damien, like yeah he could be annoying at times but not to wish the death of a child 0-0 at least his "death" make him have one of the best character development from the Bat-family and make him to be the cool Red Hood .
I wonder if they ever think about it
It's because they were salty that Dick Grayson wasn't Robin anymore
and it was awesome that they did. Red hood is great
Yeah Jason and Damian are my most favorite DC characters next to Freeze and Scarecrow
this is so upsetting, i teared up 😢 jason's torture and murder in the comics is bad yes but at least that wasn't over an entire YEAR... this is so messed up you're the first one i've seen to show that solitary room, and the 'j peter'... god
I really felt bad for him
@@Fmp.Macklin I mean he was, and excuse my French, a dick in the comics. People actually called in for him to be killed on the vote. No one liked him, he also killed the criminals when he was robin, but Batman Arkham Knight doesn’t’t focus on that, he was actually tortured for six months in an abandoned toy factory, Krank’s toy factory I think. Joker had rigged the place to explode when Batman got there, and he carried his lifeless corpse out of the factory. But this was in the comics.
People tear up over comics and stuff? I'm not making fun I just didn't think it actually effected people that personally or physiologically
@@bentheeveryman3635 i think i heard somewhere that someone threatened if they didnt kill jason todd something bad wouldve happen oh and he also rigged the votes
@@gregwilliams1879 works of fiction are meant to cause a reaction from people, horror stories are fiction yet they scare and traumatize many people, Jason's story is a tragedy and although it's not real they make sure you feel bad for him by describing and showing in every detail the horrible things he went through.
"When you forget Jason wasn't killed"
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@@GasHat. your welcome my friend.
It was my pleasure 😁
@@itzrealkcdixon No he said in arkham knight that he was tortured for over a year in arkham asylum and never actually died.
Play the game stupid fuck
This isn't the comics.
Not to mention not once does Talia, Ra's, or Nyssa mention Jason being brought there also confirming he never died.
@@itzrealkcdixon Different story line
@@AMysticLegend He did die. And then was reborn as Red Hood. (Not literally though)
It's so sad that batman couldn't save jason, and jason had to face such trauma for so long , hoping Batman would find him
He already did in Arkham knight
In my opinion, Arkham Asylum was terrifying. I remember playing it as a kid and I had nightmares... Swore to never play it again I was so scared lol
Edit: Thank you for the likes, I appreciate it.
All that creepy rooms, hallways and pipelines 😨😬😬
Me too man, I was especially scared of fighting killer croc in the sewers but anyways you should subscribe 👍.
Killer croc too
DiBBagE YEAH I WAS ALWAYS SCARED TO DO THAT PART
I remember my brother told me to get it so my dad got it for me and he played it for me thank goodness i was 8 years old at the time.
Asylum is without a doubt the creepiest and scariest game in the Arkham games
The part in Arkham Knight when joker showed the picture of Batman and the new robin who was Tim Drake. Joker tells Jason he’s been replaced cause he’s a twisted serial killer but I always like to think Bruce was searching every night up until that video and took in a new Robin because he was desperate and wanted as many eyes out in the field as possible and needed all the help he could get.
It's canon that he hired tim specifically to find jason.
This is awesome, but I remember hearing that Jason was tortured when Arkham asylum was abandoned and nobody was in there?
It was when people were there too as a corrupt guard helped Joker torture Jason
Jason said and abandoned *wing* at Arkham, not while Arkham was totally defunct.
@Alex Nutman 😄
It was definitely during it was open cause joker mentions to batman when you are going to save Gordon that he might give you Harley cause batman was without a sidekick
The asylum was still active when Jason was being tortured he escaped while Batman and Joker were fighting on the roof of the penitentiary at the end if anyone didn't know it was actually Deathstroke who helped Jason escape
My heart literally cramped while I was watching this video. Jason has been my favourite character for a long time now and seeing this video just made me feel so bad for him.
not only was jason held at arkham for a point, he was actually being held there during the events of arkham asylum, however during batman and titan jokers final confrontation jason escaped from the island with deathstroke, they then went to wayne industries where jason stole some money and gave it to deathstroke, and a super interesting part about this is tim drake would actually catch jason and deathstroke doing this, but tim didnt know it was jason since he was wearing deathstrokes mask, and there is actually alot more interesting stuff about jason in the arkham series, like how he was actually also in arkham city during the events of that game and was watching batman and joker, and during his time here he would actually run into joker where joker would strike a conversation with him
I like this part 2. It really shows that for whatever reason Joker took Jason all over Arkham island to torture him. Not sure why but he IS insain. Also the grave with the visible coffin. I'd find it interesting if Jason was behind that. Like if Joker put him there and Jason somehow got out. Anyway great video keep it up and I'm surprised you read this whole comment. (sorry about that)
Don't be surprised you are a fan aren't you? And if your not already I urge you to subscribe be one of the OG's because mark my words I will make it to 1,000 subs
@@dibbage I have subscribed and I wish you luck to reach 1,000 subs. P.S I just rechecked and I'm surprised you only have 54 or so subscribers! Your content is really good and you deserve more subs. Keep up the good work.
@@liamstrack Wow I’m back and I would just say wow 5 months ago I had 54? That means I have gained 80+ subs
@@dibbage jeez you want people to subscribe and you really care about that
@@liamstrack Liam I’m half way there to 1,000 subs
Doctor Thomas Elliot was on the white board they really knew what they were gonna do
I mean you'd assume he was an actual physician at Arkham but then in Arkham City he's supposedly part of the medical unit (new guy, low profile as described by his colleagues) there before peeling his own face off and then committing the identity murders, not to mention that cheap plan that was his endgame all along in Knight. plus you've got pieces of lore in Asylum that hint toward a much lengthier career for Batman and descriptions for the numerous foes that he's supposedly faced over the years that he later proceeds to encounter for the first time in later games (i.e. Hush, Hugo Strange etc.). not trying to shit on Rocksteady or anything but some of the pieces are missing and/or add up.
There's also Warren White aka Great White Shark... Shame we didn't get him in any game
This is amazing, makes you wonder what other small details we may have missed!
3:22 thats sad just imagine hoping that someone will come and they never come thats the saddest part 😔
I believe the names on the board (1:44) were for the appointments each villain made to torture and humiliate Jason Todd.It’s been confirmed in the Arkham comics
1:44*
Yea Hence Arkham knight shift
@Aaden Martinez wait there was sexual activity involved?
@Aaden Martinez I just looked it up it was in an old Comic called “The Dark Knight Returns” and it was just a rumor thank God
@@kalvin187douglas you not know what the dark knight returns is?
I like how that had "Arkham Night" shift on the top of the board with Jason's name at number 9 foreshadowing the 3rd game.
Do you guys like the intro?
Yeah
@@amayas0359 You should subscribe man 👍
@@dibbage ok
Bro this is about Jason Todd bro where is ur respect
@@Nightmare10010 ?
0:48 if only Batman took a few seconds of his time to examine the blood...
The timeline works if you think of Jason having just been "killed" (Joker sent footage of Jason dying) *just* before Arkham Asylum, if Dick is already Nightwing, and you look at the "A Matter of Family" DLC as a nice dream Barbara has after getting engaged to Tim (why else would a Starro be in that one vent?).
Seeing blood that seems a bit old, but not cleaned yet, that could very plausibly be Jason's in the Asylum made me think this way. It could factor into my big "obviously not what the canon intended but is fun to think about" theory.
Thank you.
This just made this game a whole lot creepier and haunting. But love this game. Each character has a whole lot of backstory and those are actually showed as references in arkham series. The perfection and attention to detail is mind blowing ❤️
It shocked me really when people went though and brighten up the videos of Jason from Arkham knight. Reason being how rocksteady did a full circle with there game series. Here is what I mean.
In Arkham asylum from 2009 was a fun game. Main villains to fight of course but what I really enjoyed about Arkham to this day is the hidden Easter eggs. Like the office of Quincy sharp hinting Arkham city years before it was to come out. This clip here of showing where Jason was in the first Arkham game and many others. It all ties great
I can’t believe they had shown all the stuff about Jason years before he was even shown in the Arkham games
The blood is dark so it could mean that when The joker got caught this was also his plan as well 🤔🤷♂️.Also the first place is where he got tortured and then put to his cell and so on!Really sad for what Jason had to go through 😔
Yes it is
Keep in mind arkham asylum takes place a year after jasons death he was replaced by tim 6 months later make this tims ending of his 1 year as robin witch mean jason is planning to become arkham knight in 2 years
@@alexmendez7546 What if that coffin never has Armedus and knowing joker had Jason hidden in that coffin and why you can hear a bang when you’re near 🤷♂️
If you listen closely you can still hear the screams of Jason, echo throughout the halls of the abandoned facility of the asylum.
Ever wondered why Jason named himself the Arkham Knight? 1:44
Really
Can you?
Does this mean Joker kept moving Jason around during the Arkham asylum breakout
@@thedragonofechigo7878 No you can't, I think. I was just saying it for dramatic effect. Also, yes, he probably did move him around constantly.
The thought that Jason was likely in the bowels of the Asylum while batman was beating the crap out of joker makes that game even darker. I say likely as they never go into specifics on when he finally got out, or I just missed that part.
He actually got out before the events of Arkham city
@@fizzx1832 like I said, missed that part lol
Not to mention the entire first half of Arkham asylum Harley Quinn is wearing Jason Todd’s old Robin eye mask
It’s even creepier when you realise Jason was still somewhere in the building at this point as far as I’m aware
He escapes during the Titan joker boss.
It’s sad knowing during the main story Jason was still in the asylum
Maybe that’s how Jason got his name “Arkham night shift” The Arkham knight
Great video, this really shows what Jason gone through
Thank you man if you could subscribe I would really appreciate it 👍
Mad. I've seen multiple such vidoes, but none compare to this one. The evidences you brought forth to show where exactly, in Arkham Asylum, Jason was being held captive are absolutely amazing. One can clearly see the resemblances between the rooms from the AK flashbacks and AA actual rooms. World's greatest detective.
Glad this wasn't one of those clickbait videos, I actually loved learning new cool things about one of my favorite videogames in my favorite video game saga, thank you so much for sharing this! Really got me thinking if Rocksteady was considering, even a little bit, the whole Jason Todd thing during the development of Arkham Asylum...
except it literally is clickbait, this is all untrue
@@stayslapped1568 what?
@@joaquinhoult7531 i think he means that because Jason wasn't really killed and the title in this video is clickbaity.
@@nickdiazarmymfers8582 no cause the room in the medical centre isn't where Jason was because it's said that he's kept in an abandoned wing of arkham which couldn't be accessed during the first game. The tape shown is from the Arkham VR game and the room was just a reused model
The fact that you can go to that location and that no one understood that until arkham knight
2:26 There were so many factors in that transition that turned it into a jumpscare
Ikr it was so random I got so scared
This whole video is giving me horror vibes especially with Batman slowly walking around in the asylum by himself plus these scene transitions at the highest volume just make my heart skip a beat every time they occur
I mean it is a mental asylum so it would be scary by default
Thank you for not having a long intro and getting right to it
When i was a kid i was so scared of the crazy guys who jumped on batman
The lunatics?
im playing it again right now and i got surprised by one of them my heart stopped for a second lol
Same
I'm from the future... just put on detective mode at all times while you're in the arkham penitentiary 😂🤷♂️ no jump scares
3:26 is must likely jokers old cell because joker was the first red hood and the pictures show him falling into the vat of chemicals
i dont think joker would come up with a person with a red helmet. Jason created that after he was taught by Deathstroke
@@marjothibaut-walker7195 The person with the red hood is Joker because
Well
He was the first Red Hood
@@marjothibaut-walker7195 Joker was the red hood when he fell into a vat of chemicals because Batman mistook him as a notorious gang leader
@@xandersoto7772 True. Also you should subscribe 👍
@@marjothibaut-walker7195 pls research more joker was red hood he wore the helmet before Jason was even born Jason took dat identity to mock Batman and joker for Batman letting joker fall in them chemical creating the monster joker is now and for joker what is the reason he is who he is
If u have arkham Knight, Go on the Silent Knight map and go the location you are at, (2:00) it will show everything
I'll check it out also u should subscribe man 👍
@@dibbage ok
@@footedthread9315 Silent Knight map?
@@mW-yp9gn it’s the challenge map in the Batman Arkham knight the medical facility the one before the first encounter of scarecrow in the Arkham asylum
This hit me right in the feels. Thank you for this dude. Subscribed
1:53 Did u know the Thomas Elliot riddle has another riddle hidden on it? Look on the botton right under nurses. The ones with non days like Mon or Tuesday. The Ones under the R for Oliver queen and Jason Peter todd
The messed up thing is that Batman and Jason were actually in the same place at the same time it's just that Joker kept moving Jason around so Batman couldn't see him
My theory is that Thomas Elliott let joker in the asylum to torture Jason
I read on the wiki since frank boles was his mole he would let Joker torture Jason.
No, that's not what happened, in the comics show that it was some corrupted cops who let Joker tortures Jason
@@Not_Alan_Wake the arkham games are different compared to the comics
@@ItzWizard25 I am talking about the comics that are part of the Arkham Universe
@@Not_Alan_Wake the Arkham comics love them but I get what your talking about
This explains why Joker told Harley not to remove Batman's mask in Arkham City. Jason must have told Joker everything.
No joker doesn't care about Batman's identity
Joker shot Jason before he said the identity of batman
The bats at 3:18 scared the shit out of me😂
bro YOU ARE SO CLEVER THAT MATCHES UP OH MY GOSH WHY HADN'T I SEEN THIS BEFORE
The one riddle Batman couldn’t solve
Man, I always knew Arkham Asylum was dark and creepy asf, but damn!!! Knowing that there’s some references to Jason Todd makes it even more scarier and creepier than a horror film
watching this is really making me sad and felt sorry to jason. cause he's been tortured by joker, got locked up without anyone else around and feel alone, and worse of all he's been alone with joker in there for a year thinking that bruce forget about him but he didn't
Jason was kept underground in a abandoned wing of the asylum, a place only he, Jake boles and Quinn knew about. He wasn’t tortured there, that place was for the video. And that cell, that might have been used but not a lot or the doctors would notice him. He had to be underground on a abandoned wing of the asylum.
I'm thinking maybe the "extreme isolation" area that the first titan thug comes from
@@everlels7608 Maybe.
The moment in Arkham Knight after the stealth battle where Bruce is about to batter him but can’t bring himself to do it has so much emotional weight. It’s hard to blame Jason for anything he did, to Bruce or the city that made his life hell
Arkham series is the most detailed series I think I’ve played. You wouldn’t know all these Easter eggs without the internet
There’s another place in the asylum with a spinning wheelchair in the Arkham mansion and it has similar markings to the ones in the flash back
I didn't realize how dark and terrifying the Arkham series was. Now I really know.
when Batman was trying to save Gordon and joker said he might give him Harley as a new sidekick if he succeeds... So that means arkham asylum takes place just recently after the disappearance of Jason and just before Batman recruited Tim. And when Batman brought joker in the asylum at the beginning of the game, everyone was saying that joker just recently escaped and it's also when the joker's patient interviews with Harley were recorded and he were probably able to torture Jason with the help of both Harley and Boles... But then I remembered that in arkham knight, joker was showing pictures to Jason that Batman already replaced him with Tim so I don't know...
But if we keep in mind the Batgirl DLC in Knight that also has Tim, then when would it have happened exactly at that point? Because Jason did say he was tortured by Joker for two years and it was revealed in the comics that the night that Asylum takes place was when he escaped with Deathstroke after originally being hired to kill Jason by Joker. Maybe had just begun at the point of the DLC starting? Which also begs the question, was Joker keeping what he was doing to Jason a secret from Harley so he could have all the fun to himself, considering there’s dialogue from her in Knight that indicates that she knew about what happened, but only because Joker told her what happened.
@@bichyas3741nope. Harley and even other villains such as Penguin, Two Face, and even Killer Croc were aware of Jason’s torture sessions because they downright had both Joker and Frank Boles permission to have occasional torture sessions with Jason in which they would physically and psychologically abuse Jason
2:33 those scribbles are actually in a lot of different cells in Arkham Asylum.
It is so creepy that he was with us this whole time and we didn't notice, it is so freaking sad and creepy like damn bro
Interesting fact: in Arkham Origins you can see Batman's investigation about Red Hood in Batcave with some newspaper clippings about him. But i think there's might be some plot hole cause Joker said Batman appeared 2 years ago before AO plot.
God I wish there was a level where Jason had actually got to Joker before he died and beat the crap out of him with a crowbar that would have been an awesome level
All Batman could think was Jason was in the city but he was right under his nose in Arkham asylum
1:43 i just realized why jason calls himself ‘The Arkham Knight’
Damn, seeing this video makes The Arkham Asylum game even more disturbing, intriguing and more creepier
Wow, I've been playing Arkham Asylum for years as it's my favourite video game of all time and yet I never noticed that cell with the drawings inside it.
I noticed them but my dumb ass self never thought anythin of it 😂
Jason "died" in an abandoned Arkham wing and this place isn't abandoned
This crazy! I'm surprised more people haven't really talked about this. Truly storytelling at its best
Thank you my man also you should subscribe Im going to make another video soon 👍
This just hints that rocksteady was ready to nosedeep into this universe. I mean they even had Arkham city Easter egg in Quincy sharps office
If Batman was “the world’s greatest detective” why couldn’t he DETECT were Jason was?
Look at the thomas Elliot riddle in arkham asylum. Nurse nine. But also look what else was there. Oliver(R),Queen(R) and J.peter(R). It looks like he was dragged out of that room but was able to get a message on the board. Which hints to green arrows real name and Jason Peter Todd's full name.
The patients were Mad Hatter, Clayface, Great White Shark and Firefly, with one of the doctors being Hush
Imagine knowing batman can call superman to find jason but never did
Batman’s way to stubborn to call him
@Drizzy Dre nope
Definitely not
Where would be fun in that?
Batman didn’t do anything because he thought Jason was dead
Joker literally sent Bruce a video of him killing Jason
3:05 being alone is definitely worse than starving and getting beaten and tortured, no wonder there are so many people with depression
There are also writings from Jason in the gardens where shut off the power. If you go up the ladder where the riddler trophy is along the wall you see it. Just zoom in. I believe he's making reference to the archam knight game
The timeline for when Jason’s torture began is what I want to know, considering it did last two years and was shown to have happened before the Batgirl DLC in Knight, and apparently in the comics the night of Joker taking over the asylum, Jason ended up escaping with Deathstroke. It also begs the question when did Joker and Harley meet after Joker began torturing Jason? Because based on Harley’s dialogue when she has Tim cornered, she was never a contributor to Jason’s suffering, just told what happened by Joker. Maybe Joker was still torturing him, but kept it a secret from Harley just so he could be the only one having his fun with Jason? Because remember in Asylum if you enter the building where you first come across Scarecrow and Bane where Harley’s at, Joker says, “What’s he doing here? It’s too early!”, and it was proven Joker moved him around all different parts of the Asylum. Maybe Joker needed a bit of time to move Jason before Batman got in so he wouldn’t find Jason?
Nope. Harley was involved in Jason’s torture, alongside: Penguin, Two Face, Killer Croc, Bane, Zzsas, Calendar Man, and even Scarecrow whom all physically beat and emotionally tormented Jason.
Guys I found the exact place where jason was in arkham asylum
.....he was in the record wing of arkham mansion not the record office,the hall. Just on the opposite side of dr.youngs office which can be visited through bringing down the wall with batclaw,when you find the trophy, you can see rocks shattered and behind them is a staircase going downwards where jason was throughout the game
Are you sure
That’s the exact location if u go into challenges and then the first stealth challenge Batman starts in that exact spot
In arkham knight batman starts seeing Jason and joker
If you look on the ground you will see some markings that are in the asylum
The atmosphere in this game is so good
The headstone said "Amadaeus Arkham" though...
That just goes to show jokers true nature. He’s done many horrible things even to Batman himself.
That’s an interesting detail.
Though, I believe this is simply just a case of them reusing the asset for the cutscene.
This wing was definitely not abandoned.
That’s so crazy because earlier I was free roaming in Arkham Asylum and went to the location where he was tortured and where he drew the scribbles on the wall and didn’t think anything of it until I just finished Arkham Knight right now it’s currently 5:45am (Idk why I said that) but I looked it up out of curiosity after seeing the Arkham Knights identity as Jason Todd and how he saved batman at the end.
god they needa make a game about jason todds backstory bro id pay a fortune to play that game
This game gives me the chills thinking about jason and thinking about the scarecrow missions