We Remap an electric car with some interesting results
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- Опубликовано: 24 окт 2021
- So we remap the Golf GTE but the results weren't what we expected, tune in to find out what happened.
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Was looking forward to see you drive home in the uprated GTE , slightly disappointed and plenty of waffle!!!!!!
Great video Paul most enjoyable looking forward to the next update.
great results Paul I used regal autosport about 10 years ago when I had my astra h vxr they are such a great company
Brilliant video Paul.that will change it a remap.cant wait for the next one.
Interesting Paul........Enjoyed and looking forward to next update...
Great vid, the sound was ok despite the noise of the road literally right next door. Would love to see your GTE being driven in the next video!
Looking forward to getting mine done. I will be calling for a price soon!
Nice work Paul I live very near Southampton will keep these guys in mind . Looks like a great garage who know what they’re talking about 👍
I'm sure in E mode the motor gives you 100 bhp but it's dialed back to 50bhp in GTE mode, I'm guessing so it can sustain peak power for longer.
However the Dutch guy ( The Flyjng Dutchman) he has his mapped on the electric side too so he gets the full 100 bhp of electric motor in GTE mode.
Great video, I'm tempted to get mine done now 🙂
Great video and very informative regarding a hybrid,I have a Mercedes c350 hybrid so will definitely will be making a call to these guys
Great playlist on the GTE. Look forward to hearing what Racingline say about the results and if it is worth the money.
Another interesting video Paul thanks.
Interesting and something I'd like to have done with my GTE but.. 4WD mode? Come again? Please explain...
Max power at 4200rpm 😕 that's not right.... Peak power should be nearer 7000rpm.... Something is really wrong with their graph
instead of talking of how it drove you should have shown us ngl
Hi Paul your car will go like a rocket man good for you all the best to you & your family
A very interesting video, one that certainly makes for good debate and also for what can be done next to improve on those figures. I’m sure you will find out and let us know. 👍🏽😎
Absolutely
Yes, Volkswagen are VERY good at telling if you’ve fiddled with the software on one of their cars. In fact, they’ll happily do it themselves on the sly to get around emission regs. 👍🏻
Along with Fiat, General Motors, Nissan, Renault, Mercedes, etc
Good comment 👍 however I reckon VW are not so very good at telling you hence all their grief
Waiting to hear as i need to get my car tuned but was assured it would tune both ICE and Electric.
Lovely Paul. A comparison on a private road comparing the GTe to the gti would be great. My brother in law has the 69 plate gti. Also a video of you driving the GTe reviewing it would be great to see. Love the wheels and the tints
I will be doing a video shortly on how it drives in comparison to before
I heard the power from the electric motor gets cut to 60bhp when in GTE mode, so that would take your stock figure to 202bhp, more in line with the figure of 204bhp.
Im wondering why, if the stock engine only figure is supposed to be 150bhp, yours only gets 142bhp - even with the K+N and 'better' fuel? Is the air filter getting in the way?
Sound great 👊👊👊
how much did the insurance go up?
Great vid 👍
There will be a bonnet sensor for the alarm system either a pin switch or one on the bonnet catch, it's likely using that to sense the bonnet is open on the dyno. Try again with the switch closed.
Actually, that would make sense
This would be completely illegal and Volkswagen really wouldn’t do it. Bonnet switch signals feeding into the powertrain controller have basically been gone since people were caught doing it in the 90s
@@mwh2412 Yeah cause VW wouldn't cheat would they?
@@steveturnbull9542 oh they’d cheat, but you don’t cheat using the same thing the other guy got caught cheating using…
It might be something as simple a safety system to stop the high voltage traction system from powering up while the bonnet is open - just in case a person / mechanic starts tinkering where they shouldn't.
Nice channel Paul. You are very good in front of camera
Comment nr 100. Why arent people like you showing up in my feed all the time! Super nice person! Good channel! Good content, thank you bro!! Greetings from Norway =)
I’m no professional technician but I would assume that when the car is in gte mode the electric motors power output would be limited in order to preserve the battery health as maybe the combustion engine can not bypass the battery to power the electric motor directly. As for the electric motor not being active on the dyno, there must be a system which can detect when the car is stationary or mobile which is either linked to the built in gps or some other sensor
Did you try doing the dyno with the bonnet closed?
If I start my GTE (in E mode) and open the bonnet the petrol engine automatically starts.
Hey Paul, you should try Tesco's Momentum 99 petrol. I've tried VPower in my 2006 2.0TFSI Audi and the Tesco stuff definitely makes it feel more lively. My car is a Revo Stage 1.
Thats interesting to know
Drag race with a GTI?
nice point paul
Really interesting to watch your vids after watching the flying Dutchmans videos ro get a uk comparison
Putting money aside so when my banger finally goes bang, im gunna get one of these badboys
Just wish I could get the info so I could consider it for my Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (it’s a Hybrid)
What was the outcome with the gte mode and the motors give me full performance?
Comment nr 100. Why aren’t people like you showing up in my feed all the time! Super nice person! Good channel! Good content, thank you bro!! Greetings from Norway =) Side note.. I have a 2015 GTE, and a 2017 BMW, I like the GTE best.
I had no idea that Golf GTE are 4wd🤯
They aren't, however they have sensors on the back wheels which detect when the wheels aren't moving
@@CarsForPaul Ahhh I see! Thanks Paul for replying with this info👍🏾
You can quote what ever figures you want from a remap, all you really know is that it is more, the only thing that matters is did it change the 0-60 and above.
I have heard people quote all sorts of figures especially estimates without a dyno printout but how it pulls through the rev range on the road is what counts. A bad remap can show high figure on a dyno but are terrible to drive.
Hi Paul. Just found your channel.. looking into hybrid..
A thought...
I worked in vehicle development decades ago.. and bits in-between...
I'm not criticising the air filter company you mentioned..
But...
All the air filters I have seen are nowhere near big enough also air intakes lack radiuses etc...
The result.. flow and pressure drop can be all over the place...
Causing havoc with everything else...
Regards Mark.
Cant wait to see if you can find out how the electrical unit works. I was waiting for this video before I got mine done but I don't see the point if it only turns the engine side up and gain 25 bhp ish.
in the netherlands we do make m 280-300hp ish
@@basvangoethem2457 any link/contact? :)
I thought all VW DSG's auto upshift near the red line in manual mode unless the box software is tweaked?
Correct
I'm also curious about why the electric motor wouldn't engage when on the rolling road and how did the car know? I wonder if the car fas some kind of accelerometer or 'in motion' detector that detects if the car is actually in motion or not (like a air flow meter or something? I also wonder of it can be defeated for a rolling road session). Is there anything that is possibly battery/electric motor safety related that would be dangerous to either of those if the car was on a rolling road? Perhaps under the bonnet that could be hazardous to someone working on it for example?
If VW were so inclined, they could use the car's GPS sensor. And as someone else said, they might be using the bonnet open sensor (or a combination) to put the car into a "mode" not normally used for on-the-road driving.
I believe bonnet switch activated equals service mode, for safety so motor probably inhibited for safety. I imagine there are accelerometers in the vehicle dynamics module (ABS) which confirm status on momentum. SATNAV can detect movement but is not trusted at this scale of linear movement, so not integrated.
When are the new videos for the GTE coming out?
Did you manage to fit the GTI style exhaust?
Not yet but will fit it in a future episode
Remapping the stock 1.4 TSI yields approx 25-35 bhp (if you're lucky), so unless you carry out mods or remap the electric motor you're getting all there is. Get it dynoed somewhere else & you'll get different figures.
This 1.4 goes from 150 to like 190 to 200 on premium petrol lol.
This should give around 230hp without electric tune
Sorry Paul that graph is rubbish😟. I've had many dyno runs and shoot-outs and seen many graphs. I've never seen power drop like that (60BHP). The torque graph is way off it should start to drop off at mid range rpm as the BHP increases just as the graph on racingline's site shows. Also has already been said the electric motor only gives 100 hp in E mode and 50 in GTE unless that's been mapped as well.
I have an update on the graph coming soon. your right, the graph isnt right, and regal have since sent me the correct one.
Is the broblem that in dyno that the hood is open, like dieselgate, software knows when hood is open, i think, not sure in your case. Nice video
That may be the case, I have a GTE and if you open the bonnet with the electric motor on, the petrol engine starts up.
Might be a safety thing 🤔
You mentioned a measurement of Newton pounds a couple of times. What is this?
Next time close ur bonnet and make sure ur battery is full and warm as possible to get top numbers 👍🏻
Hi Paul most ppl saying gte will map to 285 hp thats petrol and electric combined
Good video 👍
That’s assuming 100hp electric power in GTE mode which it doesn’t do - think it’s a torque issue for DSG. A DUTCH COMPANY is doing electric tune as well
You are the most knowledgeable and helpful RUclipsr to be honest. I appreciate your content and how helpful your videos actually are, I myself own a gte same condition as yours as well as the same problems yet I’m struggling with it. Could I contact you in some way for your help?
Thank you
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Gte mode is only 50%power.. u need to flash that electric engine to full power on gte mode. Then its about 280hp 480nm. 0-100 6sec and 1/4mile high 13sec
That graph don't make sense peak power is to low at 4k should be closer to 7k
Remap day!!!
Is there anyway for me to remap my Lexus GS450H f sport!? I’ve been looking everywhere with no luck
Has you fuel economy been impacted by the remap? I have always wondered what the real world results would be
Not really.. all depend how much you use elecric and how heavy you drive. And i have done 10.000tkm with flash
interesting to see a hybrid on the rollers. i dont know if it varies , but the motor should be like 116hp unless this car is older than the one i read up on. combined in standard it should have around 242hp & 400nm. so assuming thats what your car is then if you have close to 300hp after remap then you definitely have gained .
The output from the electric motor is reduced in stock tune GTE mode. So the max output is a bit over 200. The latest racingline remap will remove that reduction so releasing the full 85kw (114hp) alongside the engine remap. should be somewhere around 280 total.
@@markgambrill I just got a racingline map for my GTE mk7.5, are you sure they removed it?
Does the Golf have dyno mode like some other VAG cars, and if so, was it on?
The GTE does not have a dyno mode, well not on my GTE 7.5
@@TheNorville2 how do you know it doesn't have dyno mode if you are waiting for a tune? Dyno mode for a golf r for example has quite a complex way to activate it...
1. Start the car but not the engine (electronics on)
2. Turn on the hazards
3. Pump the throttle 5 times (rather quickly)
4. You'll notice the ESC OFF warning pop up on the dashboard and the traction control light will light up if done correctly.
5. Leave the hazards on (the entire time) and start the engine you are now in dyno mode
Wow, I did not know this, I'll have to do some research
confused, i didn’t realise they did a 4wd GTE ?
They don’t. The dyno is spinning the rear wheels to simulate the car being on the road
@@mattmanslim fair enough! confused me as he said ‘put the car into 4wd mode’ 😂
Are they the Mk8 GTE figures?
I have had many of my Audi's remapped and used tuning boxes too, so I have a little background knowledge. Something is definitely not right with those figures on the graph. Peak power is way too low in the rev range. I would say the dyno is registering something wrong. Sorry to say that the guy from the remap company was talking marketing BS most of the time. Best wishes and I hope you get it sorted, but I wouldn't be going back there.
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I so want to fix your collar kind sir.. #donttakeoffence
is it possible to remap the electric motor so it makes more power?
Yes
Of all the cars you've had Paul, why did you choose this one to remap?
Go to VRS Calvin who sells cars deals with them they deal with golf
Thanks, I'll look them up
Hello mate
Newton pounds does not exist
If you going to go technical please get it right for everyone.
Sorry to nag Paul
Yep, everyone knows Nm is Nanometers ;-)
That graph looks completely wrong, I'd not have walked away with that. If it were me I'd say you're not happy and will be getting it dynoed elsewhere before they correct the issue
No an EV remap ... :-(
God this was boring I was falling asleep 😴
Why does my comment keep getting deleted :(
Im trying to explain the dyno graphs shown break the laws of physics. 220Nm at 6000rpm is more like 190hp not the crazy drop off of power from the peak of 140hp at 4250rpm shown here.
Another great thing to do is find the self study manual for the gte that shows what the torque and power curves of the engine on it's own look like. Power rises all the way to 5000rpm and is then flat until 6000rpm. Not like the drop shown here.
There's a problem across YT a few weeks ago .. I'm replying 3 weeks from your comment...
I and others experienced comments not posting on several channels.
First 🏃
A shill review dressed up as an advert. Who is doing who a favour,whos getting discount/free stuff etc. Someone with a lil knowledge of a given subject can easily bullshit someone with no knowledge in that area. But lets get real this video is just an advert.
Actually, your wrong, I paid for my remap, with no discount, as I didn't want it to influence my verdict