Boeing 747 Almost Crashes into San Francisco | United Airlines Flight 863
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2019
- Find out how an unexperienced pilot almost crashed a United Airlines Boeing 747 into San Bruno Mountain, just after taking off from San Francisco International Airport.
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I love when there's no "In the memory of all people that lost their lives".
I agree. I have seen too many flight channel videos where the "terrain, terrain, pull up" GPWS warnings ended tragically. I bet nobody on board had any idea of how close they came to death that night, but I'm glad everyone survived.
'In memory of the engine that lost its life"
@@welovecricket9110 makes sense
Yeah, fuck dead people.
We love cricket he was always a good engine to United
I was a Captain on the Otis Spunkmeyer DC-3 when this incident occurred. I also owned a Helio Courier H-295 which I based at Schellville, CA in Sonoma County. Two United Captains had small antique aircraft at Schellville. One of them named John was on the United Airlines Board of Inquiry into this incident at SFO. John, told me that the First officer flying was what they called a "Bunkie." He only flew the 747 enroute on long haul flights. United had decided to upgrade him to Senior First Officer based on his tenure with the company. The only experience he had in the actual aircraft was one Take-off and Landing during his initial checkride in the 747, and his six months sim training consisted of the enroute segments of long international flights. During his initial flight training in Cessna aircraft, no emphasis was put on use of rudder. This incident scared the United management to its core.
I've flown out of SFO many times while flying Be-18s and DC-3s for cargo airlines in the '70s. Takeoff from the 28 runways is very easy. The procedure is to follow the 28 localizer in order maintain the 28 extended center line course through the Gap between the coast mountains on the left and San Bruno Mountain off to the right. Not only did the "Bunkie" not correct the asymmetrical thrust with rudder, he used aileron and let the airspeed deteriorate. The Captain did not monitor the situation, he never mentioned that the plane was drifting to the right. He was severely reprimanded after the investigation. The Captain was known to be a weak pilot, however, nothing was done to remedy this.
When the 747 flew over San Bruno Mountain, it set off car alarms on the streets in the subdivisions on the North side of the mountain. There are numerous broadcast antennas on top of the mountain. We're lucky that the plane passed to the West of these.
Several United Captains and First Officers were sent for retraining as a result of this wakeup call, and United revised its training and hiring requirements.
I had heard that the FO was also an AF Reserve pilot used to doing long trans-pacs in a C5 where is there is hours and hours of riding and a few moment of actual flying the aircraft.
RE: "During his initial flight training in Cessna aircraft, no emphasis was put on use of rudder", my commercial license was earned in a Citabria...on the first take off my instructor growled in my ear..."LOOK AT TURN AND SLIP INDICATOR...YOU'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO COORDINATED FLIGHT! THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LEARN TO FLY IN A CESSNA...NOW YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN WHAT A RUDDER IS FOR AND TO REALLY LEARN HOW TO FLY"!
Thanks for taking the time to reply so thoroughly robert. Good man
Robert Campbell it seems almost unreal to think his first action was not rudder during an engine failure. And what about the scan? Was the balance bar just completely ignored? Really makes you wonder what exactly both pilots were doing at the time besides staining the seats.
So what you're saying is that the Bunkie pilot did the world a favor by screwing up.
@@Aushumanoid The Captain was not a strong pilot. The Bunkies have little or no time actually hand flying because they just monitor the aircraft in cruise when the autopilot is handling the flying chores. This was the Bunkie First Officer's first actual takeoff in the 747. He was not trained adequately on use of rudder, and, he was behind the airplane. In other words, his mind was not ahead of the plane as it should have been. The Captain was at fault because he knew it was the F/O's first takeoff, and he should have been monitoring his actions more closely. -- This same scenario played out in the Air France crash into the Atlantic a few years ago in an Airbus A330. Two Bunkies were flying the plane. They stalled the plane and kept it in a stalled, nose up condition all the way down to the Atlantic Ocean below.
7:23 United 863 flew so low that briefly became United 862.
Kinda lol
I think... I think my heart had stopped when you showed just how close they were to that mountain.
@Dark Light you want to know some weird shit, man.
@Dark Light 💩 i did
Same lol
Imagine what it must have been like for the crew--or for ATC, when the plane disappeared from radar for a moment.
I'm not sure how many passengers would have been aware of the proximity to the mountain at the time. I was sitting in the middle section so I couldn't see anything outside, as it was night time. Perhaps some passengers with window seats may have seen something but it didn't seem like anyone was aware of anything except that there was some kind of emergency (we'd heard loud bangs from the starboard side and the captain had announced that we were dumping fuel and returning to SFO). I suspect that most of the passengers on that flight have remained blissfully unaware of what happened (or what didn't happen) that night.
"Terrain, pull up" is a nightmare
Big danger of crashing
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If this was an Air Crash Investigation episode they would have called it 'Deadly Close Call'.
The called the episode with China Airlines Flight 120 "Deadly Detail" even though everyone survived the incident.
And no diagnosis as to what caused the engine failure??.
@@DaBeezKneez Exactly my sentiments.
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Deadly Close Call IN THE DARK
"Terrain, terrain, pull up!" I think i'd pee my pants if I ever heard it while flying.
That and the stick shaker in the same video......usually disastrous!
The collision with san bruno mountain was only 30 m
Right? Every time I hear that sound, I could just throw up.
I hear ya.....
Ok but what was the explosions and what caused the engine to exceed it's temperature?
Erick E. Likely a compressor stall in that engine. Similar to a backfire in a car.
A compressor stall doesn't raise the temperature and it is a very temporary condition.
LAWRENCE S HELM a compressor stall absolutely can raise the temperature significantly, and they can be temporary, or they can be prolonged. Which is why most emergency procedures have you retard the engine, then advance it, and if the condition recurs the engine is shut down.
@@theroncameron2426 My theory is a contained/uncontained engine failure of some sort. Compressor blades/Fan blades...
@@tima.478 Retired UA pilot here. Compressor stall.
I think this is first video in which everyone survived Even after hearing terrain terrain pull up 🙂
Just a friendly reminder, I think US Airways 1547 had the ground proximity warning too :)
the system worked!
@@turboprop0018 sorry..!!
@@RAXITH_playz its fine :)))
Wow. They missed the mountain by only 100 feet! That was heart stopping! Thanks for the upload!! I was almost a casualty just for watching this video!!
100 feet. Just wow.
Relax....everybody survived...and many car accidents on the road are all near missed just like tat happens all the time to me...
@@frankiehuangjianwei469 a car accident vs a 747 accident sure
@@frankiehuangjianwei469 yeah that 747 crash would have been like a 200 car accident with a high amount of death not including the people on the ground not quite the same but I see what your trying to say lol
A multi-engine is a multi-engine. Asymmetric thrust as a result of engine failure is asymmetric thrust. Rudder, not aileron, input is the appropriate action.
Exactly. You'll need some aileron to compensate for the weight of the dead engine but not very much. The main control input is rudder, this will compensate for the asymmetrical thrust.
Exactly what I was thinking. I was quite confused when I read that it was just ailerons, and not any rudder.
Both are needed.. Im a multi CFI..
@@feetgoaroundfullflapsC They sure are, a piston twin will need more aileron that a jet though but you're right; both are needed.
See the last video about the King Air 350 that lost the left in Addison, Texas.. They slackers only used ailerons too.. 10 dead and destroyed 3 airplanes and a hangar too.
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Everyone on board survived with no knowledge of how close they'd just come to whacking into a mountain, only the flight crew's soiled drawers left as evidence.
That was my first thought when the co-pilot used aileron to stop the drift. Rudder. Using the ailerons throws up the spoilers when you really don't want them to.
Basic stick and rudder skills are degrading in commercial pilots who rely heavily on automation, although this is the fault of the airlines, not the pilots.
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first time I see a video here where the pull up voice didn't signal their sure death and actually worked to save a plane and passengers
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Imagine if the first officer had hesitated to pull up when the ground proximity warning went off. It would have been a completely different story.
That was a nail-biting story! And very nicely done.
"The first officer is the pilot flying" begins a lot of these videos...
@Temple of Ridicule jup. FO killed also everyone on Air France Flight 447
Marco partly true. The FO who stalled AF447 had less experience than the FO in the left seat. Poor CRM is what contributed to AF447. The left seat pilot did not know wha Th right seat pilot was doing. I suspect turbulence prevent him from seeing the airplane attitude, but the stall warning sure told them all they need to know. If CRM was done right the left side pilot would have taken over. They had time to recover. Although as they say hindsight is 20/20 and since I was not there I have no clue on the dynamics on what was happening in that cockpit.
ORIGINAL Junglist yeah, from what I read both sides tick inputs being opposites cancelled each other. Thats why I also blamed poor CRM. I did not read that the CVR said he announced that the airplane was his
About half of them..
Wasn't that the Second Officer? @@Marco-wz3ff
I 'm a former SMS intructor. I was the ATC boss during Air Force to Civil Aviation Authority Hand over/take over hard days .
I was worried about finding CFIT training tools to instruct ATCO's and happened to find a FLIGHT SAFETY PAPER ON CFIT . Some graphics were so cool that I incorporated them into my power point presentation . One picture shows the sites were CFIT were more clustered and that was the summit of a theorical mountain, while the rate of CFIT decreased from top to bottom. The drawing had a predictive dotted line of events that didn't happen ( like it is the case of this video).
This is an excelent tool for SMS managers and Air Safety Officers.
well done video!!!
What was the reason for engine #3 failure??
I'd also like to know!
Likely, a turbine disc exploded
@@atomstarfireproductions8695thank you
I wanted to know the same thing! They just scapegoated the F/O
Why would he tell you that, isn't the captain's name and age more important and the last time he passed gas?
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Wow, what a close call. Situational awareness is essential. Particularly in an emergency. Thankfully all survived.
Whew that was so close ! So glad it ended well. Thanks for sharing and great work!
As a former private pilot of light aircraft is was obvious to me from the start that the pilot should have used rudder in these circumstances. Who teaches these pilots? Why don’t they get to learn the basics before given the immense responsibility of transporting hundreds of passengers? Frightening!
Relying more and more on computers and software. Pilots no longer have stick and rudder experience on small aircraft. Yes, very scary!
@@jessicasnaplesfl7474 The foot pedals are for steering while taxiing. Only boats have rudders, said the flight officer.
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Glad this one had a happy ending. Your simulation and editing skills are second to none TFC. Excellent work.
30 metres? Omg! That must have been terrifying. Thank you again, flight channel. Your recreations are really top quality as usual!👍
I drive Uber sometimes in SF and this video is a reminder of why I hate dropping people off in San Bruno and South San Francisco. Those massive airliners fly right over South San Francisco towards and over the suburbs of San Bruno and Daly City.
And i think the bell is on. Also Good job for flight channel!
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I'm exhausted just watching this - the suspense of missing the mountain by 100 feet nearly killed me. Awesome channel. No one knew how limited the first officer's experience was before giving him control of the plane?
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But what was the bang noise? Pilot always gets full blame. Something must have happened initially to the plane! Maybe his reactions were incorrect, but that's why the pilot is monitoring surely?
@asdf therefore no one should be interested in it
Planes, engines are never going to be perfect 100% of the time. An engine out on a 4 engine aircraft should not be a major problem. Pilots should be able to correct for this without almost crashing the plane.
What happened to the engine? Usually you show that as well.
and what was that bang
Maybe fan disc engine 3 blow away
engine surge (compressor blades stall)
@zak benatar thanks for your Pratt reply
Your graphics are so crisp and clear it looked like a drone was hovering over the airport filming the aircraft. The view at 1:55 looks like your setting the cockpit of the real thing. Wow, now that was a close call, these guys got lucky. I was reading MS Flight Simulator 2020 is gonna be released next year. I might have to check in to that. Another great video tfc, thank you for your work and for sharing.
At the first time i couldn't believe that they will be able to avoid the mountain ....
I always knew that the Miracle exists !
Man , i love your vids keep it up :)
This is why the 747 will always be the Queen of the Skies, she protects her crew and passengers even with 3 engines and a pilot who should have still been in a simulator.
BobEckert56 this makes no sence whatsoever
Sense*
An Avengers Fan right sense
Look up United Airlines 811 to see what happens when the "queen" bites back. The a380 has landed safely several times with three engines and has never crashed.
???????? That's the most senseless coment here o.0
Back in 1998 when I was a kid I used to live in Pacifica which is 9 miles to the west on the oceanfront from the airport. I would look up at the right times to see my favorite 747s and a340s heading out over the pacific ocean. I would always watch the sky and I got used to the flights that would head over me while waiting to be picked up from school for example. This flight must have gone straight over my head but at least I lived on the other side of the mountain and not on it.
Marc, I spent my high school years living in San Bruno. We had a birds eye view of SFO from our backyard. I literally watched thousands of takeoffs from SFO go right over San Bruno Mountain. It would have been horrendous had that plane not made it over....
Love your vids bro.Keep up the great work
Great job!!! Love the decoration of the light aircraft at the end.
Another brilliantly told tale by TFC. Inexperience and lack of knowledge almost caused a disaster which should never have happened. Once a 747 reaches V2 speed it's more than capable of climbing and flying on 3 engines. It's very fortunate on this occasion anyway, everyone on board got away with it.
Another Informative production, well done. Yes, basic "stick and rudder" skills are a must. Bob
Rudder pedals are for steering while taxing. Only boats have actual rudders, said the flight officer
I live nearby and have hiked up San Bruno Mountain a few times. It is so close to SFO! I have worked some off-site meetings at office located at the end of Oyster Point Blvd (on the bay and adjacent to San Bruno Mountain) often. The air traffic there already seems quite low given the proximity to the airport. Thankfully, this was a tragedy that was avoided.
I love the fact that the first officer didn’t panic when the other two relief pilots yelled about the stick shaker and stalling. Kudos to ALL OF THE PILOTS!
It's hard to say what he did exactly at that point but the fact of the matter is it was the captain who then took over the controls and flew the plane over that mountain top, albeit belatedly.
these videos do take a week but i hope everyone understands why. great video as always
I really really loovveee the background music in this video thank you 🥰
Appreciate your efforts, your channel is unique and amazing 🙏🏼
But what had served as the main cause of No.3 engine fail that led to this?
OMG WHAT A GREAT VIDEO.SUCH AN EXCELLENT GRAPHICS BGM.PLEASE CONTINUE THE SAME.ALL THE BEST TFC
Another very good, high quality recreation of this incident, your efforts are expressed a lot, good job on every small detail, keep ip the work buddy (and good job to the pilots who prevented this from becoming a catastrophe)
747: What a nice day to fly!
Mountain: *I'm bouta ruin this man's whole career*
Edit: disclaimer: this was not ment to be offensive, jokes aside, this was very lucky and definitely not laughing bussiness
Hahaha insane 😂🤣 😂
its_tommyz_rice underrated
@@rixmy1526 lmao
Also FO : not for this day mate
@@raffipambudi yep
The engine flameout sounded like a bird strike. But I was thinking "trim rudder" during the whole video.
Captain: we got a stall warning and a low proximity warning!
First officer: Hold my bear
Since this occurred in California, and the grizzly bear is one of California’s state symbols,that seems appropriate in a weird way.
I like the graphic add more and shows how close the plane came to crashing.
Joe Man - Yes, I liked that.
Love the background music. Great video! Thank you TFC!❤✈🙂
No mention of what caused the engine failure. Man....30 metres of clearance over that mountain. I was amazed plain did not stall in that steep climb to clear the mountain. Good thing those two non flying pilots called stall before stick shaker made its alert. Those two were on the ball. Big Kudos to them.
Another great video! Thank you so much!
Flight channel Friday ❗️❗️ but man that could have been terrible ! I’m so glad they all made it I can’t believe it was only 100 ft above the mountain .
Yep, they were bound for a an old fashioned CFIT. The kind of one that kills so many crews and passengers.
I wonder if passenger knew how near death they were unbelievable. Amazing pilots indeed🍀🇬🇧👨✈️✈️👩✈️
I am looking out my window at my 100 ft. tall oak trees. Puts this in perspective. That's a lot for a tree, not so much for clearance.
@@elaineblackhurst1509 Good thing it was at night. Can you image the shear panic of the passengers if it was daylight and they could see how close they were from a crash?
Robert Travis Kirton I panic just for a bit of Turbulance over the Alps going to Italy don’t think I’d have survived if I knew I was about to land on it and be obliterated sends the chills through me. I keep thinking on the last 6 minutes of the Max passengers and crew as that thing nose dived to the ground must have been horrific I think Boeing are about to be hammered with multi million £. Lawsuits for the passengers suffering and the families enduring pain it will never go away my heart is with these families indeed🍀✈️👨✈️👩✈️🇬🇧🇺🇸💗🌎
Thanks, I just found out I almost died 16 days before I was born on July 14, 1998. My parents and I were living just down the hill from San Bruno Mountain in Daly City and if the wreckage would have spread over the area like in other videos I’ve seen on this channel, I don’t think I would be here today. My parents nor I even knew this happened. Glad it turned out the way it did and now I have another thing to be thankful for this holiday season. Thanks for the amazing videos!
the scenery in the beginning couldn't have resembled the Bay Area any better. Coming from a current resident, you did an amazing job with the graphics! love your channel
Thanks for making this video. I was living in San Francisco when this happened just a few miles north of San Bruno Mountain.
Omg I love you vids keep up the work!❤️
P.S: Can you do Unlocking disaster that is United airlines flight 811
Who is vids? Why do you love him?
Vids is short for videos
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Wonder if the 1st officers reticence to use rudder was down to lack of experience of sideslipping. The rudder input would require roll control with aleron anyway. Like the man said, lack of basic stick and rudder skills. Thanks.
I'm not a pilot, let alone one with a commercial, multi-engine rating, but even I thought that using the aileron as opposed to the rudder to counter the effects of the loss of one engine in a 747 during takeoff was a bad idea due to the increased drag at slower speeds...it's simple physics.
Never heard about the 30m club before!
Just a recommendation. I like it when the title doesn't give it away. Going into this video knowing the plane doesn't crash takes away the intensity of not knowing. Takes a lil of the enjoyment out of it. I like not knowing so I can experience the flight as they did.
Ha! Trent Palmer's Freedom Fox shown at the end, flying over Lake Tahoe. Love it. Just after the comment about "stick and rudder" basics.
I noticed that right away.
Every event in life is a lesson. Ignore them and pain follows. Excellent response from the Airline.
Ah yes, whenever I head to SFO for a flight, I always make sure to take a look at the San Bruno Mountain.
Miguel Mari Quijano-Aligno I agree. The first time I swear we were going to land right in the water
Brooke Jones Dreamliners also have a way of doing that
Another exceptional effort by an exceptional RUclipsr! Just out of curiosity, what was the initial cause of the incident? Blown tire or blown engine part? Keep up the great work!
Wow that save from the mountain
This crew was lucky to escape given the poor handling of an engine out situation. The aircraft is designed to be able to climb and turn in these circumstances. When I flew the B737 we did real airplane engine cuts in training and it was instinctual to feed in rudder to centre the ailerons and keep the spoilers down. Of course doing 6 legs a day in the mountains gave us plenty of stick time. These days the prevailing philosophy is to automate, and pilots are loosing the feel of the machine.
Did I miss something? What caused engine 3 to fail?
Wish he would've explained that.
As an aviation geek who lives near San Francisco I’m very surprised I never heard of this incident, anyway amazing job flight channel!👍👍
I always like your videos before I watch them because I know they're going to be good!
Thank you MyFlightChannel for another video. I love it.
I am not a pilot...but my first instinct would be to use the rudder to counter a lateral drift!
So what was the initial problem? Was it a damaged engine and why? Great video as always but it’s missing that important information.
@VIPFlight rudder? What! I thought only boats had rudders, said the flight officer.
Amazing video as always ❤️👍🏻👍🏻
the new additional graphics are a good move !!
Please do the 1994 Fairchild AFB B-52 Crash
The problem today; so much reliance on the automation that basic pilot skills are slipping.
This Is the way the world is going. Computers rule over competant Pilots or people. Our whole lives are recorded somewhere by google Facebook etc etc the computer knows our every move. My husband threw our Alexa in bin after reading an article Called The Dark Side Of Alexa calling it just A Chinese surveillance unit in our home oh dear 🇺🇸🍀👨✈️🇬🇧✈️💗
A lot of us saw this coming when the age of cockpit automation was beginning.
So excited when notification pops up with a new video. Love this channel and the dramatizations are so ‘life like’🛫😊
I appreciate the effort to add how United handled the event to keep pilots trained and prevent a similar event from occurring again! Prevention is the best medicine!
Never learnt the cause of the mishap and engine #3 snag ?? That's pretty scary , considering it can happen again .
Simply amazing! You are getting better and better every video you release. Well done 👍
I love your channel and FSX, I've now got 76 hours of flight experience in the simulator. If there's a simulator that I recommend to just about anyone, FSX will proudly take that title.
Keep up the nice work TheFlightChannel! Can't wait until you reach 1 million subs!
Great job - and adding the graphics here was a terrific idea!👏
Captain: Sit back and enjoy your flight !!..
Eng. N3: Lol..I've got other ideas!!
Still waiting for JAL 123. Hope you make the video
john smith It was not in your destiny thank God 🇺🇸👨✈️🇬🇧🍀✈️💗
You know a channel is so good when it makes you 10 mins late!
What is the really sad piece with the string instruments that’s always in the end of the disaster videos called?
I've been looking as well. Around the 9:45 Mark but can't find anything. If I find it I will try to update here. Please let me know if you find it as well