our community Symphony orchestra played this in 2008 and the audience HATED it...complained...we were so devastated..we nailed it!! They had NO class. They wanted to hear pieces they were "used to".
We performed this symphony when I was in grad school, and the amount of "musicians" within the orchestra who just shut down at the idea of playing this piece was amazing. We had doctoral level students who just hated this symphony and would have rather played a Beethoven or Tchaikovsky symphony.
Is this the greatest symphony of the 20th Century? There are some who think it is - certainly there is no more original symphony. Nielsen wrote war symphonies before we even knew what a war symphony was - and make no mistake, this is one such and confirmed by the statement "not one of us is the same as we were before the war."
here's a prayer that somebody did find it something they were "used to", (it is from 1925) and that someone else wanted to learn more, and to hear it again.
4:21 to 6:32 I felt as a man who going through the harsh conditions and the scorn and contempt from his community since his childhood, and all of these factors will make him be an [exceptional character], either in [the crime or the fight against crime]...(This is just a seed of imagination caused by interacting with this emotional music section) :)
haha! good job, it's the same with the main theme of Jaws and 'Peter and the wolf' of Prokofiev, and you can find one theme of Star wars 4 in the planet Mars of Holst :) the best inspiration come from classical composers ^^
When I hear this piece, I sometimes must laugh at myself. One of the main themes of the second part or movement reminds me of the Star Wars theme (heard most prominently here around 21:48), and then I'm not focused on much of what follows. I wonder if John Williams was subconsciously mimicking it.
Or maybe you just can't take fair criticism? It is not always about the piece, good performance is very important, just like the bad performance can kill a perfect musical composition. You shouldn't be so arrogant, if the majority of the audience found your performance bad, there is a huge chance it was bad indeed. Instead of blaming the audience for having no class, you should practice more and learn from your mistakes. I am telling you this as a person, who deals with being reviewed daily.
A lot of artists can't take any criticism, you are not unique, many musicians think they ''nail it'', when in fact they often sound plainly bad. Nothing is more disturbing then misconducted or dis-synchronized orchestra. Usually bad performers try to defend themselves by blaming the audience. Simply coming forth with classical piece and thinking that you will be superior to others just by playing it isn't enough. The piece has to be properly rehearsed, conducted and fit the atmosphere.
they wanted to hear more Pops , less classical. The gig before that was all Pops. The symphony had a right to play more challenging pieces, nobody forced the complainers to come...they knew the repertoire prior to buying tickets.
The Danes are too modest. Look at the official Denmark site. You'll look long and hard for mention of Nielsen. For a country of 4 million they have produced some of the seminal figures of Western Civilization: Hans Christian Andersen, Soren Kierkegaard, Nielsen and Nils Bohr and were one of the few countries to come out of the Second World War unstained. While Nielsen's symphonies have the wideness of Minnesota (where many of Nielsen's countrymen settled), his Funen is a miniature world. This is not modern music in the sense in which that is most widely understood. That is it is not reductionist. Melody wins in the end over the madness of the drum noise and we are back in the serenity of pacifist Denmark, which gave up her great power status, relinquishing Iceland, then to militarist Germany, Schweg- Holstein. While Nielsen, like Beethoven, was not a believing Christian, the former wrote the Missa Solemnis and the latter melodies that found their way into the Danish Hymnbook, they were part of Christendom. His Fifth, in part, foreshadows his failing health (obvious in his 6th), but he kept up the good fight with his Wind Quintet (surely the greatest in that form ever).Listen to that throat clutching melody in the 5th first movement, so full of honest, poignant emotion, so humane and tell me he is like the automatons of 20th century art. Even in the last movement melody won't go entirely away Yes, he rejected the saccharine and bloated music of the late 19th century for a rigorous athleticism (although I would exempt Brahms, the Till and Don of Strauss and the Enigma Variations and Introduction and Allegro of Elgar) Nielsen never gave up on the humane.That's what makes him immortal. For the woman whose comment here shows disappointment that her amateur orchestra's rendering of this symphony met with such incomprehension by the audience, well you wouldn't expect a child to run before it walks, Nielsen should be introduced through his 2nd, especially his 3rd, and his 4th before being exposed to the 5th, which then is a natural growth.
What is "Till and Don"? ("Plough and Wear"?) And "Funen"? Doesn't DK still own GL? Love SK! (Met the inimitable Victor Borge in '76.) Listened to the 4th and 2nd first. Took me awhile to get into the 5th...
you have no idea about the night in question, talk about arrogant! I can say what was happening, I was there, and the newspaper article said no class, they weren't my words in the first place. The symphony nailed the piece btw, flawless performance.
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our community Symphony orchestra played this in 2008 and the audience HATED it...complained...we were so devastated..we nailed it!! They had NO class. They wanted to hear pieces they were "used to".
They say taste is subjective but nah, that's just wrongness
Wisconsin, ryt?
We performed this symphony when I was in grad school, and the amount of "musicians" within the orchestra who just shut down at the idea of playing this piece was amazing. We had doctoral level students who just hated this symphony and would have rather played a Beethoven or Tchaikovsky symphony.
Remember think of how stupid the average person is, and realise that half of them are stupider than that.
~ George Carlin
This symphony is pure genius... yeah I like Brahms 3rd but come on
Gran bella sinfonia,in completo stile modernista.Ottime la direzione e l'esecuzione dell' eccelsa SFSO.
Grazie per questo ottimo inserimento.
The piece was first performed, on 24th of January 1922, at the Musikforening in Copenhagen, and was also conducted by Nielsen.
this is a very fine piece indeed, an extraordinary work, it's formal procedures are quite radical for its time. thankyou for the upload!
Sehr objektive und zugleich eindrucksvolle Interpretation der grimmigen Sinfonie. Danke fürs einteilige Hochladen mit höchster Tonqualität!
Is this the greatest symphony of the 20th Century? There are some who think it is - certainly there is no more original symphony. Nielsen wrote war symphonies before we even knew what a war symphony was - and make no mistake, this is one such and confirmed by the statement "not one of us is the same as we were before the war."
Interesting. Blomstedt is conducting this exact piece with the SFS tomorrow.
Love the precursor to Glass opening
Beautiful, very very beautiful .
Great composition !!
here's a prayer that somebody did find it something they were "used to", (it is from 1925) and that someone else wanted to learn more, and to hear it again.
The first movement foreshadows the grimness of Europe's later wars only too well, that dark march, that insistent snare drum...
LvB had harsh critics until the 1950s in regard to his talent and true musical pertinence, so don't worry...
"LvB"?
@@jamesbarlow6423 the work of Ludwig van Beethoven (LvB) received harsh critics until the...
Indeed. Time will be good to Nielsen no doubt.
Wonderful climax at 16:19 !
Going to see this in Hamburg in 2 weeks.
... and i see you've chosen blomstedt's superb rendition of it ...
4:21 to 6:32 I felt as a man who going through the harsh conditions and the scorn and contempt from his community since his childhood, and all of these factors will make him be an [exceptional character], either in [the crime or the fight against crime]...(This is just a seed of imagination caused by interacting with this emotional music section) :)
Understood
I love the live Kondrashin recording, Horenstein and Bernstein. And heard it live with the Detroit Symphony and Jaarvi. Yikes!
Check out Schønwandt & Oramo
Do you mean the orchestra? For the music does come from Triple Crown winning thoroughbreds back unto the fourth degree.
mhh. brilliant!
Comment ne pas aimer/respeceter la caisse claire?
haha! good job, it's the same with the main theme of Jaws and 'Peter and the wolf' of Prokofiev, and you can find one theme of Star wars 4 in the planet Mars of Holst :)
the best inspiration come from classical composers ^^
When I hear this piece, I sometimes must laugh at myself. One of the main themes of the second part or movement reminds me of the Star Wars theme (heard most prominently here around 21:48), and then I'm not focused on much of what follows. I wonder if John Williams was subconsciously mimicking it.
John Williams is not only overrated but a consummate ripoff artist
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Or maybe you just can't take fair criticism? It is not always about the piece, good performance is very important, just like the bad performance can kill a perfect musical composition. You shouldn't be so arrogant, if the majority of the audience found your performance bad, there is a huge chance it was bad indeed. Instead of blaming the audience for having no class, you should practice more and learn from your mistakes. I am telling you this as a person, who deals with being reviewed daily.
is this my boy evil???
A lot of artists can't take any criticism, you are not unique, many musicians think they ''nail it'', when in fact they often sound plainly bad. Nothing is more disturbing then misconducted or dis-synchronized orchestra. Usually bad performers try to defend themselves by blaming the audience. Simply coming forth with classical piece and thinking that you will be superior to others just by playing it isn't enough. The piece has to be properly rehearsed, conducted and fit the atmosphere.
they wanted to hear more Pops , less classical. The gig before that was all Pops. The symphony had a right to play more challenging pieces, nobody forced the complainers to come...they knew the repertoire prior to buying tickets.
The Danes are too modest. Look at the official Denmark site. You'll look long and hard for mention of Nielsen. For a country of 4 million they have produced some of the seminal figures of Western Civilization: Hans Christian Andersen, Soren Kierkegaard, Nielsen and Nils Bohr and were one of the few countries to come out of the Second World War unstained. While Nielsen's symphonies have the wideness of Minnesota (where many of Nielsen's countrymen settled), his Funen is a miniature world.
This is not modern music in the sense in which that is most widely understood. That is it is not reductionist. Melody wins in the end over the madness of the drum noise and we are back in the serenity of pacifist Denmark, which gave up her great power status, relinquishing Iceland, then to militarist Germany, Schweg- Holstein.
While Nielsen, like Beethoven, was not a believing Christian, the former wrote the Missa Solemnis and the latter melodies that found their way into the Danish Hymnbook, they were part of Christendom.
His Fifth, in part, foreshadows his failing health (obvious in his 6th), but he kept up the good fight with his Wind Quintet (surely the greatest in that form ever).Listen to that throat clutching melody in the 5th first movement, so full of honest, poignant emotion, so humane and tell me he is like the automatons of 20th century art. Even in the last movement melody won't go entirely away Yes, he rejected the saccharine and bloated music of the late 19th century for a rigorous athleticism (although I would exempt Brahms, the Till and Don of Strauss and the Enigma Variations and Introduction and Allegro of Elgar) Nielsen never gave up on the humane.That's what makes him immortal.
For the woman whose comment here shows disappointment that her amateur orchestra's rendering of this symphony met with such incomprehension by the audience, well you wouldn't expect a child to run before it walks, Nielsen should be introduced through his 2nd, especially his 3rd, and his 4th before being exposed to the 5th, which then is a natural growth.
What is "Till and Don"? ("Plough and Wear"?) And "Funen"?
Doesn't DK still own GL?
Love SK! (Met the inimitable Victor Borge in '76.)
Listened to the 4th and 2nd first. Took me awhile to get into the 5th...
Denmark unstained! That’s one way of putting it
you have no idea about the night in question, talk about arrogant! I can say what was happening, I was there, and the newspaper article said no class, they weren't my words in the first place. The symphony nailed the piece btw, flawless performance.
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