Inside The Cockpit - P-38 Lightning ft. Scat III

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024

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  • @MilitaryAviationHistory
    @MilitaryAviationHistory  2 месяца назад +21

    03:41 - parallel, not perpendicular (obviously)
    04:03 - AWAY from the fuselage (in the P-38)
    **Thank you to the people who spotted these annoying hiccups I didn't catch in the edit**

    • @JoeBlow-zr2ru
      @JoeBlow-zr2ru 2 месяца назад +2

      Also at 8m24m we get the "other" right-hand boom (at 8m03s it was correctly the left-hand boom). Ignore us who notice these insignificant mis-speaks ... your videos are excellent.

    • @MrSpirit99
      @MrSpirit99 14 дней назад

      As a German, still better than my English and catching your errors always teaches me something new and makes me a little bit proud.

  • @amirawadalla5866
    @amirawadalla5866 3 месяца назад +126

    SCAT III was the name of the P-38 that Robin Olds flew back in WW2. Super cool!

    • @kilianortmann9979
      @kilianortmann9979 3 месяца назад +9

      Olds would fly an F-4C in Vietnam, named Scat XXVII with four credited kills and likely some uncredited ones (as an official ace the USAF would have likely send him home).
      He did not allow his pilots to fly with gun pods (although he would have liked an internal gun in the F-4), because he knew that his pilots, trained under a strategic bombing centric doctrine, never practiced dog-fighting and would not be able to use them effectively. His main point was not the lack of a gun, but the lack of gun/dog fight training, that was still necessary to use the early Sidewinder missiles.

    • @badcornflakes6374
      @badcornflakes6374 3 месяца назад +9

      One of the greatest pilots of WW2!

    • @postflight
      @postflight 3 месяца назад +15

      Scat III was the only plane to score a confirmed kill with all engines out! Robin released his drop tanks before switching the selectors to the main tanks, causing fuel starvation moments before firing. He scored the kill, then changed the selection to the mains and restarting the engines and moving to the next BF109.

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 3 месяца назад +1

      @@badcornflakes6374 ok thats a very bold statement lets put his 5 kills up against 100's of men who shot down 5 times, 8 times or even in one guys case 70 times as many or the Dive Bomber/ ground Attack guys who routinely had to go down to the deck where all the AAA was. I think a better statement was one of the greatest Pilots in POST WAR history I doubt many could argue against his thoughts on training the future pilots of the USAF

    • @kinglouiev9530
      @kinglouiev9530 2 месяца назад +4

      @@badcornflakes6374 one of the greatest pilots of the Vietnam war as well

  • @leftcoaster67
    @leftcoaster67 3 месяца назад +101

    One of the most beautiful planes ever built.

    • @facubeitches1144
      @facubeitches1144 3 месяца назад

      I respectfully disagree.
      - Isoroku Yamamoto

    • @CAP198462
      @CAP198462 3 месяца назад +3

      My grandfather, who flew the P-38 in North Africa and Italy would agree.

    • @LindaAllen2129
      @LindaAllen2129 2 месяца назад +1

      @@leftcoaster67 My daddy often said the very same thing, about when he walked out on the field in England and first saw the P38 Lighting. The young men had trained on single engine and had never flown a twin. Several men died trying to learn to fly it as no one wanted to admit it as they were afraid they would not get a chance to fly it.

    • @Luis-be9mi
      @Luis-be9mi 2 месяца назад +1

      Germans called this plane “The Forked Tailed Devil”

    • @mrvlsmrv
      @mrvlsmrv 2 месяца назад

      Definitely a hot plane.

  • @LindaAllen2129
    @LindaAllen2129 3 месяца назад +40

    My father flew over 80 missions in P38 Lighting out of England.

    • @danilorainone406
      @danilorainone406 2 месяца назад +4

      germans called these 'forked tailed devils

    • @lambastepirate
      @lambastepirate Месяц назад +1

      @@danilorainone406 A funny thing the most feared plane for a German soldier to see was the Piper J-3 Cub, the reason why was they knew the artillery was fixing to hit them with heavy fire!

    • @LindaAllen2129
      @LindaAllen2129 25 дней назад

      He learned to fly in single engine. When they got to England they were taken out to the field and shown what my Dad called “ The most beautiful plane God ever created. None of the men wanted to admit having never flown a twin engine. Several were killed trying to learn. My Father came home with the D. F. C. The Air Medal with 13 clusters. I ask him once what that ment? He said “Oh that just means I was
      He also said “ every day, four planes flew out and every day three cam back…………day…..after…..day……after…….day. Think how scrared they must have been…… they still climbed in those planes and finished their mission.

    • @ananthxn
      @ananthxn 18 дней назад +1

      An absolute madlad 😮

  • @martinchorich1621
    @martinchorich1621 3 месяца назад +29

    My dad flew one of these over Italy before he was old enough to vote. It still blows my mind that the Army Air Force invested in a twenty year old to pilot a front line fighter in combat conditions.

    • @Fernwald84
      @Fernwald84 2 месяца назад +8

      Two advantages to having "kids" in combat: fast reflexes and belief in one's invulnerability. Older folks know that doing stuff like dive bombing, close ground support, dancing around flak, etc., is hazardous to your health.

    • @damadelli3847
      @damadelli3847 2 месяца назад +5

      My dad also flew these out of Italy (Foggia) in late ‘44-early ‘45. Lots of stories.

  • @feedingravens
    @feedingravens 3 месяца назад +40

    A few weeks ago I saw a P-38 Lightning flyiing over the Munich area. I told my girlfriend
    "That MUST be a P-38 and it MUST be the one from the Red Bulls in Salzburg" -
    "How can you know that?" -
    "The twin booms, the trapeze wings, and I can't imagine that there is another P-38 roaming over Europe other than the Red Bulls"

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 3 месяца назад +2

      Correct, it's the only airworthy P-38 in Europe. It was superb at Sywell Airshow in the UK recently, flew with the Red Bull Mustang, Corsair and Mitchell.

    • @feedingravens
      @feedingravens 2 месяца назад +6

      @@andrewwaller5913 It is only confusing as it is a true showplane and not a historically accurate rebuild.
      It is a P-38L, which should have the "chin" radiators housing the turbocharger intercoolers, but it has the streamlined cowlings of that was used up to ca. the P-38F model.
      That means as now only fly at low levels, they do not need all the equipment for performance at large heights anymore, so they threw out everything in that regard, making the plane lighter and easier to maintain.
      So the whole turbocharger installation on the upper side of the booms is gone, without the turbocharger you have no heating up of intake air, so need no intercoolers anymore.
      The complete armament is also gone - granted, armament is not allowed for a private plane in Germany or Austria. .
      My friend at the Flugwerft Unterschleißheim (airplane collection of the Deutsches Museum Munich) would be very unhappy.
      They are all for total historicity. They got the "He 111" from the movie "The Battle of Britain" painted in german markings of that time, but the movie was not the historic event that was acceptable.
      So they completely rebuilt the plane to what it originally was, a CASA.111, a spanish license build, with spanish markings.
      A funny detail mmy friend he told me about is that due to the completely glazed, very slanted nose in rain visibility could be really bad. Therefore the pilot seat can be raised, so that you can open a large panel on top and a small windscreen folds out and you can poke your head out for landing.
      Another probably unknown detail is the wing mounting.
      I would have expected an extremely sturdy construction, the main spar protuding with a overlap and multiple fastenings.
      Instead, the wing spar ends in two about fist-sized balls top and bottom, that fit inthemispherical sockets at the fuselage. The fastening of the ball is done with w bell-shaped nut (in german you would call it "Überwurfmutter"). That is all for load-bearing.
      I hope that was interesting. I relish in such details.
      I find that is what makes things truly interesting, and often opens up the door to understanding of otherwise enigmatic peculiarities "Oh, THAT is the reason for that, because they had just that part, they had to build it that way, and therefore it looks so weird/they had to use it in this way and not that".

  • @michaelkinnett6243
    @michaelkinnett6243 2 месяца назад +6

    My father was stationed in Foggia, Italy . He flew the P-38 and came back after the war. He So the farm boy out of H.S. enlisted and ended up flying this aircraft. I am a commercial pilot, thanks to dad. I love the section in the cockpit. Brought back fond memories.

  • @spmadeinusa4594
    @spmadeinusa4594 2 месяца назад +12

    My father was one of the original P-38 designers. He attended the College of Engineering's Daniel Guggenheim School of Aeronautics at New York University.. In his fourth year, the Department of the Army directed seniors in his class would graduate immediately so they could work on wartime projects. One of his assignments involved structural analysis of the P-38 fuselage, specifically the tail booms. Back then huge rooms were filled with white shirt black pants, crew cut engineers sitting at steel case desks, who spent hours with slide rules, essentially acting as a human computer. When we heard this we joked that our dad was a college dropout, to which he replied "I guess so, one the Army instructed to design fighters".

    • @dogcat145
      @dogcat145 2 месяца назад

      so essentially NOT one of the "original P-38 designers"

    • @spmadeinusa4594
      @spmadeinusa4594 2 месяца назад +1

      @@dogcat145 Incorrect. Then, as now, a large team designs new aircraft and major weapon systems. New, recently graduated engineers, then as now, perform tasks appropriate to their skill level and experience. Each contribution has intrinsic value. So yes, in the vernacular used in our industry (at least according to my own 40 years in aerospace and defense), he was one of the original P-38 designers, one junior aeronautical engineer on a large engineering team.

  • @TDOBrandano
    @TDOBrandano 3 месяца назад +25

    One detail worth of note is that the counterrotating props spin in the "wrong" direction when compared to most other twins, which makes it more difficult to fly with one engine out. You normally want the inboard blade to be the downgoing one, because at positive angle of attack it has a coarser pitch relative to the airflow, and therefore it has a bit more thrust, shifting the thrust vector nearer to the centerline. Also, in case of a wheels up landing, if a blade were to detach it would be less likely to hit the fuselage. And even in normal operation, spinning props can pick up pebbles and stuff from the runway and throw it towards the plane. In the case of the P38, however, the propwash interacted badly with the inboard portion of the wing, causing elevator buffeting in cruise, and this configuration was the solution.

    • @josephking6515
      @josephking6515 2 месяца назад +2

      *Thank you.* I always wondered why it had the *two* critical engines and surmised it had something to do with elevator authority but could never find anything to confirm my suspicions. Mystery now confirmed and much appreciated. 👍

  • @huffy1949
    @huffy1949 3 месяца назад +29

    My very favorite WW2 aircraft! (although the DO-335 is a close second). Thanks so much for this video - I've already watched it twice.

  • @chrisw8417
    @chrisw8417 2 месяца назад +9

    One of my relatives flew the P-38 in the 9th AF.
    He was credited with shooting down and ME-109 after having his left engine shot out by a FW-190 in Aug 44.
    367FG 394FS. They traded in the P-38 for the P-47 in Feb of 45.
    Nice vid of the plane.

  • @paoloviti6156
    @paoloviti6156 2 месяца назад +4

    The P-38 was considered one of the best US 🇺🇸 fighter generally speaking but it was expensive to manufacture because of the twinboom configuration . Good job again and again thanks for sharing this very interesting video.

  •  3 месяца назад +11

    I did not think much of the P-38 up until I read more about the Air War in the Pacific. It is interesting how the same plane can fare differently and be remembered differently on to different theaters in the same war. Nice Video

    • @41tl
      @41tl 3 месяца назад +6

      Same story with the P-39. American pilots generally disliked the P-39, Soviet pilots loved it. Different combat conditions led to different outcomes.

    • @dunbar9finger
      @dunbar9finger 2 месяца назад +2

      In the Pacific, range was king. The P-38 flew efficiently with its sleek lines and could really stretch the fuel when using a lean mixture. A plane that performs mediocre but at least can reach the enemy is better than one that performs excellently but has bad range so it can only defend an island not attack from it. In Europe you could always build a new forward airfield close to the front when the front moves. In the Pacific you are stuck with the islands that are already there. Close to the front might be wide open ocean.

    • @washingtonradio
      @washingtonradio 2 месяца назад

      One of the issues in WWII was the 8th was originally led by a "Bomber Mafia" die hard while Kinney in the Pacific was much more pragmatic. When Doolittle replace Eaker in Europe was the leadership much more pragmatic. Kinney and Doolittle were more about winning the war doctrine be damned than idiots like Eaker (or should I say traitors like Eaker). The P-38 and P-47 did very well in the Pacific because Kinney was about solving problems and results not doctrine. That meant both birds could show their capabilities much better than under Eaker in the ETO.

    • @fernandobrack8114
      @fernandobrack8114 2 месяца назад +1

      Reason for this performance difference between the two theaters was that the P-38 engine superchargers were not very efficient, which posed a weakness when flying at the high altitudes typical of the bomber escorting missions in Europe. In the Pacific, the majority of the missions were at quite lower altitudes (the Zero and other japanese aircraft had no superchargers until late in the war, when the primary USAAF defensive/escorting fighter was the P-51).

  • @johnnytyler5685
    @johnnytyler5685 2 месяца назад +4

    The P-51 is the most beautiful fighter that the US (or anyone) built during WW2, but the P-38 is definitely the coolest.

  • @spikestubbs210
    @spikestubbs210 2 месяца назад +3

    My all-time favorite airplane.

  • @USSWISCONSIN64
    @USSWISCONSIN64 3 месяца назад +18

    we have Richard Bong's P-38 Here in Superior WI and love seeing everything time go to the museum too. Glad to see this video about the P-38 :D

    • @potroast1794
      @potroast1794 3 месяца назад

      @@USSWISCONSIN64 HELL YEAH! DICK BONG, AMERICA'S PILOT

    • @potroast1794
      @potroast1794 3 месяца назад +3

      Hell yeah, shoutout to Dick Bong

    • @jeremiahrex
      @jeremiahrex 3 месяца назад +2

      Where’s that at? I’d love to visit on our next visit up there!

    • @USSWISCONSIN64
      @USSWISCONSIN64 3 месяца назад

      @@jeremiahrex Superior Wisconsin at the Richard Ira Bong Historical Center. Address is 305 E 2nd St, Superior, WI 54880 :)

    • @USSWISCONSIN64
      @USSWISCONSIN64 3 месяца назад

      @@jeremiahrex 305 E 2nd St, Superior, WI 54880 is the Address :D

  • @brennus57
    @brennus57 3 месяца назад +15

    Thank you very, very much, Chris. Even after that brief tour I can really see why the P-38 was such a handful and a challenge to fly. Your technical quality, both audio and visual has really come a long way. Exceptionally professional.

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  3 месяца назад +9

      Thanks a lot! Though I will say that the more recently shot videos (which will come out later this year) are much better in video quality. Looking forward to sharing those!

    • @brennus57
      @brennus57 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@MilitaryAviationHistoryWow!!! The specifications for the new, multi-barrel, rotary video camera and flush riveted, supercharged microphone are very impressive. 😊 I'm looking forward to seeing the enhanced speed, roll rate, and firepower that these improved technologies bring to your presentations.

  • @AHSoulyss
    @AHSoulyss 3 месяца назад +14

    The pre-J variant 38 is the most beautiful piston engine aircraft ever.

    • @СусаннаСергеевна
      @СусаннаСергеевна 3 месяца назад +1

      The P-63 would like a word with you.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 3 месяца назад +1

      Is that because of the change in engine intake?

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear 2 месяца назад

      @@WALTERBROADDUSThe front of the engine houses the oil coolers. In the J version and later, a third intake scoop is added as an air cooler (in earlier version these air coolers were in the wings).
      The actual air intake for the motors is that teardrop scoop on the side of the boom underneath the wing. Air is scooped there, compressed by the turbocharger that it's connected to, and the pressurised air is piped forward to blow past the carburetor.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 2 месяца назад

      @@BogeyTheBear I believe you misunderstand the nature of my comment? It's the original poster who apparently does not like the Cosmetics of the front intakes. It's not a matter of their particular function.

  • @kevinkern2149
    @kevinkern2149 2 месяца назад +2

    The P-38 is my favorite WWII fighter, with the Me-262 as a close second (I like the symmetry of twin engine designs). Possibly controversial personal take: I much prefer the post J-variant intercooler arrangement to the initial design, the "chin" intakes looking more purposeful and aggressive than the subtler "nostrils" of the A-thru-Hs. Thanks for giving us an up close look at the cockpit; you picked a stunning example.

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear 2 месяца назад

      Lockheed drew up the P-38 as the Model 22, and every variant in the family had a prefix number.
      The single XP-38 prototype was the Model 22.
      The production prototypes and earliest models were the Model 122.
      The P-38E through P-38H were the Model 222.
      The P-38J and later models were the Model 422.
      The Model 322 was the export variant which didn't go anywhere. France fell before they could get theirs, and the British didn't like what they were going to get and so they cancelled the order.

  • @shootingwithmitch5921
    @shootingwithmitch5921 3 месяца назад +2

    Thankyou for covering this plane. I think the p38 is often overshadowed by the mustang abd thunderbolt, but for me it's the coolest U.S. fighter of the war. Excellent video!!

  • @rayschoch5882
    @rayschoch5882 3 месяца назад +14

    Maybe a correction? Chris says the props rotated toward the inner wing section, but I recall reading (I'm not a pilot) that the P-38's counter-rotating props were set up to rotate toward the wingtips rather than the inboard section. What I read was that the inboard wing section provided relatively little lift compared to the outboard wing section, so the prop wash was more of a help aerodynamically if it was directed toward the wingtip. Fagen Fighters is an immaculate facility in a tiny town on the Minnesota prairie. They now have a Navy hangar, which features an F6F-5 (the plane my dad flew in combat from the USS Lexington in 1944); an F4U-4, which was beginning to replace the Hellcat at war's end; and an SB2C Helldiver, one of the very few flying examples of the type. Well worth a visit!

    • @briansilcox5720
      @briansilcox5720 3 месяца назад +1

      @@rayschoch5882 correct!

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  2 месяца назад +2

      Correct, didn't catch this in the edit. Thanks for pointing it out :)

    • @budnrobots2968
      @budnrobots2968 2 месяца назад

      @@rayschoch5882 Yeah, you better be polite!!

  • @tedferkin
    @tedferkin 2 месяца назад +2

    Definitely my favourite USAAF aircraft of WW2, up in my top 5 overall. Such a beast of a plane.

  • @PhilKelley
    @PhilKelley 3 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for an excellent walk-around and guide to the cockpit. If I had to pick one, the P-38 would be my favorite WWII fighter plane, although the P-51 would be a very close second.

  • @SarlaccSurvivor
    @SarlaccSurvivor 3 месяца назад +2

    Absolutely love the p-38, even as a kid i remember thinking how cool the twin engine airframe looked. Always reminded me of the tailspin show 😅

  • @daveschneider4723
    @daveschneider4723 Месяц назад +1

    P-38s are always worth a visit!

  • @PalleRasmussen
    @PalleRasmussen 3 месяца назад +8

    That is such a beautiful and lethal plane. And the Mustang behind... war-turner.

    • @ClaraBells-u8z
      @ClaraBells-u8z 3 месяца назад

      @@PalleRasmussen hi palle

    • @PalleRasmussen
      @PalleRasmussen 3 месяца назад

      @@ClaraBells-u8z hej Clara.

    • @ClaraBells-u8z
      @ClaraBells-u8z 3 месяца назад

      @@PalleRasmussen Where ya from ? Howdy from d states..

  • @anttitheinternetguy3213
    @anttitheinternetguy3213 3 месяца назад +3

    YES, thank you! My father has been building plane models since 70's and flown in finnish air forces in the 80's, and i noticed in war thunder simulator (out of al the places) the mirrors on the engines inner sides. Me and my father were wondering what they were for, he had never known about them. Now i can tell him the right answer

  • @jstephenallington8431
    @jstephenallington8431 6 дней назад

    The P-38 was one of the first in a long line of highly successful Clarence Leonard “Kelly” Johnson's airframe designs. He started with Lockheed right out of engineering school and went from the big P-38 to the P-80, the U-2, the renowned SR-71 Blackbird and even the F-117 Nighthawk. Quite the storied career!

  • @rand0mn0
    @rand0mn0 3 месяца назад +4

    Thanks, again, Fagen Fighters!

  • @camrsr5463
    @camrsr5463 2 месяца назад +2

    P-38 is my favorite warplane. I first saw one at the WPAFB with the scouts back in 93 or 94.

  • @SkyhawkSteve
    @SkyhawkSteve 3 месяца назад +6

    I've had the pleasure of seeing it fly at Oshkosh... back in 2015? It's nice to get a peek into the cockpit and to learn about some of the more subtle details. Thanks!

  • @tootired76
    @tootired76 3 месяца назад +6

    It's a very cool museum on the Minnesota prairie. The Fagens built it to honor their dad who actually stormed Omaha beach. I saw this P 38 fly during their airshow in 2018 before they matched Robin Old's color scheme. Granite Falls is approx. 3 hours west of Minneapolis.

    • @MattL0228
      @MattL0228 3 месяца назад

      I live in Granite Falls and have seen this plane fly over my house.

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 3 месяца назад +2

    Saw a P-38 fly in 2022. Truly a great sight and I must admit that seeing you dwarfed by it is surprising. A truly big bird compared to its single engine contemporaries.
    A beautiful bird in fantastic shape. An excellent Inside The Cockpit episode.

  • @Davie-jx4rh
    @Davie-jx4rh 3 месяца назад +1

    One of my favorite ww2 planes, and my favorite plane to fly in simulators (12.5:1 K/D)
    Easy landings, good speed, solid maneuverability for a twin boom, amazing armament, solid roll rate, and excellent flaps
    It’s amazing how survivable it is, too, limped back to base on a single engine many times

  • @mike-barnes
    @mike-barnes 16 дней назад

    The P-38 (with super/turbo chargers) was a beautiful and magnificent aircraft.

  • @johnhanley9946
    @johnhanley9946 Месяц назад

    I enjoyed this video, the P-38 is my favorite WWII warbird.

  • @nocloo6829
    @nocloo6829 Месяц назад

    Brilliant stuff as always, Chris! Thanks for sharing and keep them coming!

  • @AD13
    @AD13 2 месяца назад +1

    This is probably my favorite ww2 fighter ever. Hard to pick between this and the mustang, but this one just edges out the mustang for me. But not by alot..

  • @scottbruner9266
    @scottbruner9266 3 месяца назад +7

    9:00
    I know he said “pitot tube”, but my brain heard “Pikachu”
    😂

  • @postflight
    @postflight 3 месяца назад +2

    Just a quick clarification:
    Yes, the P38 did have counter rotating props; however, unlike most twin engine planes they have the downward (descending) blades out board. This makes it more nimble when both engines are operating, but gives more asymmetrical thrust when one engine fails.
    Thanks for the great video on Scat III!

  • @michaelguerin56
    @michaelguerin56 2 месяца назад

    Thank you Christoph and Fagen’s Fighters. Beautiful aeroplane and setting.

  • @michaelmoorrees3585
    @michaelmoorrees3585 3 месяца назад +1

    There was a large car museum just outside Reno, NV, back in the 1980s. They also had at least a dozen P-38s !
    I believe that museum changed ownership, and the collection somewhat redistributed.

  • @laserdad
    @laserdad 2 месяца назад

    Great job identifying each of the gauges and controls. I really like the white box visuals, which made it clear what item you were discussing.

  • @ZX7KIRK
    @ZX7KIRK Месяц назад

    what a fantastic video, very informative and well presented. great work, thank you for your contribution.

  • @iatsechannel5255
    @iatsechannel5255 3 месяца назад +1

    The most American thing was the built in ladder for pilots to mount their ships. Such a degree of finish and detail is a touch of understated genius.

  • @peterstickney7608
    @peterstickney7608 3 месяца назад +4

    Excellent as always, Chris! A little but of expansion on a point- The P-38 didn't get Dive Brakes added - they were Dive Recovery Flaps. The P-38, and P-47 had wing airfoils that gave low drag at subsonic speeds - up to about 400-420 mph (650 km/h, more or less), but the flow started going transonic a little bit after that, and at about 470 mph (750 km/h) - Mach 0.68 - the supersonic airflow over the wings and tail would make give a nose tuck (Nose-down pitch) that couldn't be countered. All WW 2 era fast airplanes operating in those speed ranges would d this, but at somewhat higher speeds (around Mach 0.75 - 525 mph / 845 km/hr) With level flight speeds around 400 mph (Typical speeds in combat, not necessarily the airplane's max speed) it didn't take much of a dive to get a P-38 or P-47 in trouble. At best they'd dive out of the fight, recovering somewhere below 10,000' (3000 m) above sea level, and at worst breaking up on recovery or flying straight into the ground. The U.S. and U.K. put a lot of effort into understanding and dealing with the problem. In the Spring of 1944, they came up with yjr Dive Recovery Flap. The difference is that instead of adding drag, they changed the pitching moment of the wing to create a nose up pitch, which would allow the pilot to pull out while in the Transonic region.
    One P-38 problem that never got fixed was Cockpit Heating. It was pretty much impossible to seal up the nose and cockpit bulkheads, so the -45 degree (F or C, it's the same) outside air was always leaking in. With the engines out on the wings, instead of keeping the pilot's feet warm, severe frostbite was a common problem.

    • @ronforister8374
      @ronforister8374 2 месяца назад

      Correct, however the mechanism is at or near the spar on the underside of the wing outboard of the nacelles. So, more of a reverse spoiler.

    • @ronaldbyrne3320
      @ronaldbyrne3320 2 месяца назад

      You’re a lucky so and so for getting to sit in that cockpit. 😁👍🏻 Love this series. Many thanks.

  • @BaumannJA
    @BaumannJA 2 месяца назад

    In Memory of Robin Olds. July 14th 1922. Fagan Fighters is one of the Very Best museum/collections in the entire U.S.. A visit there is something you will never regret.

  • @MrSpinteractive
    @MrSpinteractive 2 месяца назад

    I'm really impressed with how sleek but purposeful the aircraft looks even by today's standards. Many thanks to you and your videographer for this excellent video!

  • @fittobetiedyed5315
    @fittobetiedyed5315 3 месяца назад +1

    Outstanding walkaround. I'm currently building a series of 1:48 scale Lightnings, so I found this quite helpful. I would have liked to have also seen the pilot seat and radio compartment, but am very pleased with what you have shown here.

  • @BruceMusto
    @BruceMusto 2 месяца назад

    I think this is probably the first video of yours that I've watched. I enjoyed it very much. I'm a boomer, born in '58, so WWII airplanes were a big part of the models I built growing up and the P-38 was one of my favorites. Such a cool looking airplane. I like the way you moved around the plane, pointing out and explaining all the features and some differences you might find between variants. I really enjoyed the way you outlined and explained the controls in the cockpit. I spent 20 yrs in the USN in a technical rating and that kind of stuff just fascinates me. All in all. Great video. Am going to subscribe and check out some more. Thanks.

  • @Rammstein0963.
    @Rammstein0963. 12 дней назад

    The P-38 due to its armament, actually made the head-on pass an extremely easy duel to win for our pilots, if they had the sack to attempt it, just so much firepower concentrated in so small an area.
    It definitely earned respect from both sides.

  • @AyKBSBt
    @AyKBSBt 3 месяца назад

    I hoped since long time ago to see the P-38 in this serie ! I love this plane !
    Thank you so much for inside the cockpit and special thanks for this épisode !!
    If I have something to add, it will be cool to have the start up process

  • @americanpatriot2422
    @americanpatriot2422 3 месяца назад +1

    Always an Outstanding video and presentation.

    • @americanpatriot2422
      @americanpatriot2422 3 месяца назад

      @MrLBPug He does have some very well explained and detail walk around videos.

  • @davesloat9006
    @davesloat9006 2 месяца назад

    Nice details! Not the standard Wikipedia level video. Great presentation. Such a beautiful, sexy airplane!

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 3 месяца назад +2

    I’m surprised how big the P-38 is. When Chris was stood at the back between the 2 tail booms, it puts it into perspective.

    • @ClaraBells-u8z
      @ClaraBells-u8z 3 месяца назад

      Hi

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 3 месяца назад +1

      Its tiny to be honest, for a twin engine aircraft. Takes up a lot of space, though, for sure.

    • @ClaraBells-u8z
      @ClaraBells-u8z 3 месяца назад

      @@mandowarrior123 Where ya from?Howdy from d states..

  • @monstrok
    @monstrok 3 месяца назад +1

    I am impressed with the Lightning's instrument panel layout. It reminds me of the Me262 with the flight instruments to the left and the engine instruments clustered logically to the right. The yoke control certainly makes sense for the early P-38 models without boosted control surfaces. This make me wonder if the P-38L, with its hydraulically boosted controls, could have been redesigned with a center stick.

  • @coldisle
    @coldisle 2 месяца назад

    Such a magnificent looking plane. A Highly functional work of art….beautiful and lethal.

  • @Eyes-of-Horus
    @Eyes-of-Horus 2 месяца назад

    When I was in high school many year ago I recall reading about the P-38 in one of the books for English class. The story told about it being one of the 2 prop planes that was able to break the sound barrier in a dive. The other was the P-47. I mentioned this to my cousin who is a retired Air Force officer and a former fighter pilot and he confirmed this. So, the Bell X-1 and the X-15 weren't the first to break the sound barrier. The were the first to break the sound barrier in level flight. This never gets corrected when the breaking of the sound barrier is discussed. Besides, the X series planes were rocket powered.

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear 2 месяца назад

      The P-38 (nor the P-47) could never break the sound barrier. The airspeed gauge on the P-38 goes up to 700 mph for some reason, and in one dive a pilot reported the needle hitting that 700 mark. What really happened was the developing shock waves were messing up the pitot-static balance on the instrument in the dive.
      The claim of the Bell X-1 being the first plane to go supersonic in level flight but _not the first_ to break the sound barrier is all because of George Welch claiming to break the sound barrier in an F-86 Sabre while in a dive. Bear in mind, the whole point of the X-1 was to determine if an airplane flying beyond the sound barrier could still generate lift (i.e. if it could still fly at all) rather than do its best impersonation of a lawn dart.

  • @spudskie3907
    @spudskie3907 3 месяца назад +1

    Another great video as always.

  • @ralach
    @ralach 3 месяца назад

    A very distinctive, and (imo) beautiful, aircraft: Cheers for making your videos, Chris, always looking forward to these :)

  • @Fizwalker
    @Fizwalker 3 месяца назад +1

    I forget where I read this, but the P-38 inspired the fins on American cars of the 1950s.

  • @ScruffeyOne
    @ScruffeyOne 2 месяца назад

    Great video, as usual.
    Brings these planes back to life.
    One thing disappointed me.
    We get to see inside the cockpit - Yay !
    We are in the cockpit, but we don't get a "pilot looking out and around" view - not yay...
    Cheers.

  • @bassplayersayer
    @bassplayersayer 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video Biz!!!!!

  • @lawrencequave7361
    @lawrencequave7361 2 месяца назад

    Outstanding museum, beautiful aircraft (all), and excellent narration on the P-38. (This was my first intro to this a/c.) A complex aircraft that HAD to hold up in all sorts of dirty, dusty conditions--right? From WAY down South, regretfully, it's very unlikely I'll ever get to visit your museum. Keep 'em flying.

  • @connell212
    @connell212 2 дня назад

    Nice detail about the mirror on side of the engine nascel so pilot could check position of the landing gear.

  • @dalanbronnenberg
    @dalanbronnenberg 2 месяца назад

    Shockingly complex set of controls! Man, that is a LOT to keep in mind and handle while getting shot at.

  • @SaskatoonMonsoon
    @SaskatoonMonsoon Месяц назад

    "It's leaking hydraulic fluid, but that's how you know that it works." You sound like my boss. 😂

  • @gerhardris
    @gerhardris 27 дней назад

    Great that you could visit a still flying P38 and jump into the cockpit to boot!
    Kelly Jhonsons engineers at Lockheed were no doubt inspired by the Fokker G1 prototype as displayed at the Airsalon in Paris with a twintailboom desighn fighter bomber with counter rotating props and a hefty frontal armament of two 2mm Madson cannon and two machine guns.
    BTW a picture from the front of the monocoque wooden disign of the G1 might you think it a Mosquito.
    The tricicle landing gear of the Fokker D23 also shown at the Paris Salon. 15:08

  • @pedrodiaz5540
    @pedrodiaz5540 2 месяца назад

    Beautiful great video

  • @martensjd
    @martensjd 3 месяца назад

    That looks like a great museum collection.

  • @carguy1979
    @carguy1979 2 месяца назад

    I beat you to the museum but not by much. Although I have a home court advantage since it’s close by! They do have a nice collection. Love the P-38. Theirs is in beautiful condition like much of their collection.

  • @AlanRoehrich9651
    @AlanRoehrich9651 2 месяца назад +1

    Actually, the J model had 1750HP per engine at War Emergency Power.
    The Allison V-1710 had a two stage centrifugal supercharger, but it was not two speed. That's why it used the General Electric B series turbocharger.

  • @funscalemodels9782
    @funscalemodels9782 3 месяца назад

    Excellent walk around and cockpit review!

  • @fazole
    @fazole 2 месяца назад

    I can't imagine flying in IFR with that panel, the instruments are all over the place. The cockpit layout really adds to the complexity as compared to the logical layout of the P-51.

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear 2 месяца назад

      Flight instruments on the left/center, engine instruments on the right.

  • @sniddley
    @sniddley 3 месяца назад

    Excellent presentation, thank you.

  • @jromeo6748
    @jromeo6748 2 месяца назад

    The most amazing thing is that we went from biplanes to these fighters to jets in a period of about 10 years. By 1946 all these fighters developed and used in WW2 were obsolete.

  • @Mors_Inimicis
    @Mors_Inimicis 2 месяца назад

    An excellent tour and kudos to you for remembering the facts and figures from memory with no notes !
    It was an excellent design just a shame it struggled a bit in the European climate .
    I must build another model of one of these beauties!

  • @goetzliedtke
    @goetzliedtke 3 месяца назад

    My high school teachers were mostly WWII veterans and, if I remember correctly, one of the math teachers and the Spanish teacher were both fighter pilots. They both commented that the cockpit of the P-38 was smaller than that of a P-40 and P-5 and about the same space as the P-47.

  • @rand0mn0
    @rand0mn0 3 месяца назад +2

    "... and offset to the left we have the propeller warning lights." Which, interestingly enough, is labeled, "OUTER WING FUEL WARNING - INDICATES 10 MIN FUEL SUPPLY..."

    • @blacksmith67
      @blacksmith67 3 месяца назад

      I noticed that as well and came to see if others had. I don’t know enough to know whether Chris is right or the restoration moved things around when updating the avionics.

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  2 месяца назад +1

      Mine are usually based on the manual but we adapt for the aircraft. Here, we may just have mixed it up on the edit - but labelling fixes it.

  • @apolloperez8706
    @apolloperez8706 2 месяца назад

    Looking at the cockpit, I can’t believe flying for a long distance hugging the ocean for hours on the Yamamoto Mission and getting there on time and at the right place then a few moments of Sheer Terror then flying back after soiling your pants. Hats off to Them.

  • @enscroggs
    @enscroggs 3 месяца назад +2

    I would welcome a comparison of the turbo-supercharging systems of the P-38 and the P-47.

  • @jimgiunta
    @jimgiunta Месяц назад

    As I recall, regarding the firepower of the P-38, was it was supposed to be unique by the fact that unlike most other aircraft, where the guns hit in separate streams of fire, the P-38's four Browning 50 caliber machine guns, and the 20 mm cannon, all converged at the same spot, and a 1 second burst from all the guns could take down most other fighters...

  • @WhatIfBrigade
    @WhatIfBrigade 3 месяца назад +2

    I'm pretty sure a recent Chieftain video mentioned that if a military vehicle isn't leaking hydraulic fluid something is wrong with it.

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 3 месяца назад +2

      Usually, it's because it's out of hydraulic fluid.

  • @jamesroseby3823
    @jamesroseby3823 3 месяца назад +1

    I wish you could have sat in the pilot’s seat and shown us the actual view from the cockpit with the canopy closed, but it was an informative video nonetheless. 👍

  • @TheKevintegra19
    @TheKevintegra19 3 месяца назад

    Great tour, always wondered about all the intakes and radiators for air, oil, turbo and superchargers...

  • @stevesp38
    @stevesp38 3 месяца назад +2

    The P-38 Lightning and the F-15 Eagle, in my opinion, are the two best fighters and most beautiful airplanes every built. Sorry for submitting this correction, but the propellers on the P-38 do not rotate inboard toward the fuselage. They rotate outboard toward the wingtips.

    • @ClaraBells-u8z
      @ClaraBells-u8z 3 месяца назад

      Hi Steve 👋

    • @stevesp38
      @stevesp38 3 месяца назад +1

      Hello Clara

    • @ClaraBells-u8z
      @ClaraBells-u8z 3 месяца назад

      @@stevesp38 Where ya from ? Howdy from d states..

    • @stevesp38
      @stevesp38 3 месяца назад +1

      I am originally from Kentucky but I currently live in Georgia

    • @stevesp38
      @stevesp38 3 месяца назад +1

      Where U Clara

  • @itowmyhome797
    @itowmyhome797 3 месяца назад

    Thank you

  • @Redssracer-de5de
    @Redssracer-de5de 3 месяца назад +3

    Finally!!!!

  • @jamesclaptrap614
    @jamesclaptrap614 2 месяца назад

    10:34 is when he finally gets in the cockpit. Five minutes of a 15 minute video is about what the video is titled as.

  • @gordtulk
    @gordtulk 3 месяца назад

    Excellent work!!

  • @RedEyesBDC
    @RedEyesBDC 3 месяца назад

    Such a unique aircraft for the US. An absolute favorite of mine.

  • @ubroberts5541
    @ubroberts5541 2 месяца назад

    I have an original blueprint for a J model. The blueprint is dated 11-18-42. I got it from someone who worked at Lockheed in Burbank, Ca during production.

  • @4shink
    @4shink 2 месяца назад

    I am a retire private SEL pilot with 780 hours. The mechanical complexity of all single piston engine aircraft require a substantial portion of pilot attention...add a 2x factor for the second engine systems, plus navigation, plus formation attention while in flight I am always astounded that combat pilots of all nations actually had time to fight.

  • @TurboMcAwesome
    @TurboMcAwesome 3 месяца назад

    Great stuff as always😀

  • @Sgtklark
    @Sgtklark 3 месяца назад

    Thanks!

  • @ThroneOfBhaal
    @ThroneOfBhaal 2 месяца назад

    6:05 don't worry - I do that all the time. The ol' mind does like to wander a bit sometimes. 😆

  • @gregoryschmitz2131
    @gregoryschmitz2131 2 месяца назад

    Chris: Fantastic series. I do believe there is an error in the description of the Super Charger (engine driven) setup on the P-38. I believe it had the standard single speed what we now call a super charger. Dual stage or speeds on the 1710 were only done latter to try to match the Merlin and none saw service - unlike the Merlin that evolved to dual speed super chargers (but no Turbo). Today Turbo Chargers is the term used vs Tubo-Supercharger in WWII. The P-38 would have been dual stage boosted air system but only due to the single turbo and the single super stage charger in series.

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear 2 месяца назад

      The P-38 had a dual-stage forced induction setup from the very start. The Allison V-1710 has a mechanical impellor behind the fuel metering system so that the metered charge is compressed before entering the cylinders. The second-stage boost was supplied by the turbo ahead of the carburetor and this was very much the case with the XP-38 prototype.
      The only Model 22s without the second-stage forced induction (the turbos) was an export variant that ended up getting cancelled.

  • @WilliamBarnitz
    @WilliamBarnitz 3 месяца назад

    Nice job. Fully feathering propeller....actually the blades parallel the airflow when they are feathered.

  • @edwardcaseyjr5490
    @edwardcaseyjr5490 3 месяца назад

    Awesome video keep up the great work 👍 👍 👏

  • @michaelotoole1807
    @michaelotoole1807 3 месяца назад

    your doin a good job.