Unpopular People May Die Sooner, Here’s Why
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2017
- Is there scientific proof that social standing affects your health and helps you live longer? How would it do this?
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"In a new study, a team of researchers led by Dr. Luis Barreiro from the University of Montreal, Canada, and Dr. Jenny Tung from Duke University further investigated the link between social status and the immune system in rhesus monkeys at the Yerkes National Primate Research Center in Atlanta."
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"The lower a person is on the social ladder - as measured by income, education and other markers of relative status - the higher the risk of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, psychiatric disorders and a host of other illnesses. One recent study based on income data from 1.4 billion tax records found that people in the top 1 percent income bracket had life expectancies that were as much as 10 to 15 years longer than those in the bottom 1 percent."
Disparity in Life Spans of the Rich and Poor Is Growing
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"Despite big advances in medicine, technology and education, the longevity gap between high-income and low-income Americans has been widening sharply.The poor are losing ground not only in income, but also in years of life, the most basic measure of well-being. In the early 1970s, a 60-year-old man in the top half of the earnings ladder could expect to live 1.2 years longer than a man of the same age in the bottom half, according to an analysis by the Social Security Administration. Fast-forward to 2001, and he could expect to live 5.8 years longer than his poorer counterpart."
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I like being alone and find that hierarchy is pointless.
Zaluz Yet you use a computer.
I guess if I was being harassed all the time then I might have a different feel towards social hierarchy.
AlHoresmi what does a computer have to do with anything, this thing is a tool for me to acquire information.
Zaluz Who are you talking too?:/
Zaluz It's not that it's a tool. It's that it's a product. A product of millions of people cooperating in hierarchies. And it's hypocritical to use a computer and say that hierarchies are pointless. Your life would suck if you wasn't able to interact with people, you'd most likely die.
they are half right in this it's not social states itself its the stress, depression, and anger that comes with being unpopular they said the other monkeys harassed the lower one right that is what school bullying basically is its not social status its stress that kills them sooner
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Nerdlin Geeksly I agree. Associated stress is the killer. Plus saying things like lessen the gap is not good; sounds like redistribution of wealth and that de-incentivises the economy.
Lemuel Nicholls but this has nothing to do with economics even while i agree there is a gap closing it wont solve anything on this video people who are low income just need to find better paying job if there are none more need to be made if none are being made then its time to start looking outside the us border thats what desperate family's in mexico do this is caused by humans treating other humans like garbage not by a wage gap
Lemuel, I see you can repeat what you've been fed. Re-distribution of wealth would absolutely not have a negative impact on the economy, in fact, every single political party "_tries_" to re-distribute wealth, they just take different approaches, some which work, and some which are trickle-down theory.
The re-distribution I think you mean, taking from the 1% and just evening everyone out also wouldn't have negative effects over-all, only on the richest of the rich, but it wouldn't matter since everyone would have so much more to work with, we wouldn't need the ultra-wealthy and could kick them to the curb, since the only power the wield now is the insane deflationary effect of so much wealth being so densely located.
Lemuel, but having extreme income and wealth inequality is bad since it ups the stress of the majority of people. What you need is a slightly competitive economy with a robust middle class and paying people least some sort of living wage.
I'll die soon I get it
rip in pepperonis
Death is inevitable. Just how you die is the important part
same
But then who would the wealthy have to look down on?
Holy Atheist .....Shit you're right...
Holy Atheist
Islam
ScrubLord OverLord What about it?
Their tiny Peters in their pants.
The wealthy don't even look down on s.o. Why should they? They can give a shit.
Bad TITLE, the video is about RICH people life VS POOR people life. And this video uses a bit old ?data?
These comments are so depressing and emo. And people are liking them. I don't know how to feel now.
Angel Flores the word is edgy.
Terminator T101 that's the word
Oh darn, and here I was hoping I'd at least outlive all the haters. There goes that fuckin plan
RL Gill LOL HA HA xD
RL Gill Hey! Are you a fish? :3 😂
RL Gill 😂😂😂!!! 💀
Haters live longer ! They eventually got the last laugh :)
I wonder what getting rid of the concept of money and switching more natural hunter/gather/farmer system would do to help the difference between social classes.
"if we lessen the gap between rich and poor, we can all live longer". best way to do that is through capitalism.
"If we could lessen the gap between rich and poor, we could all live longer" - good luck with that one hah
So, basically, being poor is bad for you. Wow, thanks for that groundbreaking revelation.
Money in and of itself can't make you live longer. And it might not even make you more popular.
So the moral of the story and something that the can't test on these monkeys is: "Don't stress the little things."
That's why we need to tax the shit out of celebrities and politicians more.
Junomaster2006 exactly!!!
Junomaster2006 really???
What would THAT solve?
Starr Moon-Goddess3 many things...
Smh... the hatred for the rich and wealthy is pretty childish.
The green face of envy.
Smh. I just cant lol...
袁子盁 lmao... "many things" like what, exactly lol??
What a wonderful video, just chock-full of in-depth analysis of how low income workers generally lead high stress lives with little to no reward, eat quick and unhealthy meals, and have less access to quality and timely healthcare. Of course it's "social hierarchy" to be blamed for the difference in life expectancy!
Why should a bump from the street who haven't ever achieve anything and didn't contribute to the society live the same time like me ? Why the hell should he earn as much es me ?
It's crazy though because in the last 10 years or so I've seen celebrities dying at younger and younger ages (not drug related)
And the emos come out from their cave...
What is this, Buzzfeed?
Maybe rich people live longer because they are rich, which means better medicine, food, education etc. Seems like a simple answer.
!!!!! This video was uploaded just 1 minute!!!
This really boost unpopular people's self esteem
Looks like I'm dying sooner then
I'm thinking that this probably has to do with self efficacy and stress. Self efficacy means a sense that one can effectively manipulate the world around him/her (it?), and it makes sense to me that having lower social ranking should mean also having low self efficacy.
Always at the lowest pecking order can cause high amount of stress and thus higher levels of stress hormones in the blood. This can lead to what is sometimes called "chronic low grade inflammation", and can cause chronic diseases such as high blood pressure, etc.
Could there be link between social hierarchy and stress though?
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Thanks for the support...
that's if you're stressed or sad about not being popular. if you're perfectly happy with being alone, I don't see why it would be harmful
this seems more likely to prove if you're happy and don't care about your status, making it not stressful and depress all the time would make you live longer. Also, what if you're popular by animosity? say you're a famous entrepreneur but people don't know your real face.
Well that was the most unscientific video I've seen on this channel
It would be interesting to see research focused on humans that minimizes the effect of other factors that tend to come with a higher social standing, such as having more money. That way we could rule out other effects on life expectancy, such as being able to afford better health care, and differing daily stresses. Then we could see how much effect the social hierarchy itself plays a role in life expectancy. Unfortunately the only viable way I can see to do this is to go to a communal society and inject a superficial social hierarchy. That doesn't sound too ethical though (Not to mention it would take a long time to get the results).
I like videos like this more than the videos that you stand there and just talk about stuff.
Money DOES matter, and there are around as many bad rich people as bad people in any other group of people. Just because you're jealous of someone doesn't make it okay to talk shit about them.
Mayo Rice i agree.
These comments sound like pure hateration, to me
R.i.p to me and the unpopular people in high school
I think it's more like "the happiest people live longer"
Easy. Distribute the wealth of the world's top 10 richest with the world's 10 million poorest people. That's roughly $58k per person.
I think it's a perspective thing.. if you care about social norms social economic status and you're on the bottom half.. you're probably going to feel like shit or inadequate subconsciously.. but if you don't care then you'll be alright
Okay, so what about natural introverts like me. I love spending time alone and I find I'm more stressed in social situations. I'm not popular and I like it that way, so would status actually have an effect?
So, let me get this straight...POOR people are UNPOPULAR? Wait, let me write that down... #RIDICULOUS
Take everyone's money and we'll all die together. Good message
Well this is the validation I needed 😔
Approving the "basic income" for poor people, may be a starting point in closing the gap.
clearly the life expectancy gap is due to social popularity affecting bloodwork and not the fact that healthcare costs are ridiculous.
You concluded at the end "that we could _al_l live longer." Wouldn't lessening the gap imply that people of higher status, once losing some of their status, relatively speaking, would consequently have a shorter life span?
actually it only said that you would lessen the gap between the consequences.
Not that we would all live longer.
Meaning for the formerly higher end, their life expectancy might drop while the former lower end has theirs rise a bit.
Assuming we're only paying attention to the social class and status effects and not the effect of differing access to resources, this might actually be something of a zero sum, because if there is no perceived difference in status, then the effect should dissipate.
You don't have to be popular to be wealthy
"If we lessen the gap between rich and poor, we could all live longer."
An interesting supposition, but it could just as easily mean the rich die sooner. The gap is being decreased could mean poor live longer or rich die younger or a combination of both.
*The Spirit level* by Richard G, Wilkinson and Kate Pickett is a really good read on this subject and a real eye opener.
I usually take statistics with a grain of salt but the research they did and its findings where so strong that it hit home for me.
I believe there is a *TED* talk here on RUclips for those who want the short version.
PS: don't let the name of their work mislead you. Nothing metaphysical about it, just pure research. Its about the human spirit. That is, our well being.
"Lessen the gap between rich and poor". The gap is what the rich hold most dear, even more so than their children. The only thing they love more than nthe "gap" is their money itself
It's about how you perceive the popularity and in turn the stress or effect your way of thinking about it has on your mind and body. If you find yourself far more interested in hobbies or work, this barely matters since we're not monkeys, for which popularity is more important. You might also get helped by other people, but your popularity may also attract people who won't help you or may even be bad for you. It's rather about wealth and so quality of life, which does not always correlate with popularity
No you can't all live longer by decreasing the gap between the rich and poor. Particularly if redistribution wrecks the economy.
How is popular people = wealthy people? Also, what about the fact that wealthy people are more likely to look after themselves more (food and exercise wise).
*Comment Reader* exactly.
Steve Jobs is gonna disagree, but Stephen Hawking might agree.
How can the US ever expect to close the income gap if higher education is getting even harder to achieve as tuition continues to skyrocket? Not to mention outsourcing jobs continues to be a thing and wages are not consistent with the hard work involved in many occupations while the fat cats pile up all the wealth the rest of us earn for their companies. I'm not against rich folks because they do provide jobs for a lot of people but I am against some of the really wealthy families that don't give a shit about the people who helped brought them to their position in the social hierarchy.
B/s.... born in the 40s and 50s and having a lower paid job, means chances of alcoholism rises and also poor health related working conditions.
The problem with this theory I think that does it take into consideration the people in the middle? Do they live a average expectancy or lower or higher?? That has to be concluded. And I think it's more being mentally well, than physically.
This only showed correlations. Correlation does not mean causation. There are far too many factors than just social hierarchy.
I'm all for lessening the gap between rich and poor, but I wonder did these studies control well for other factors? Did the researchers dictate a common diet for the Macaques? It could be an indirect effect, such as stress leading to unhealthy eating as a form of self-medication, which then could be countered if someone is aware that this may happen to them and then purposefully compensates by deliberately planning a healthy diet. Perhaps dictating an exact diet would be difficult, so it would be interesting to see what would happen if the unpopular Macaques were injected with substances meant to fight inflammation or even if their food was just altered to include more anti-inflammatory nutrients.
Also they mention the unpopular macaques faced harassment. It seems there are multiple dimensions to this. A person or macaque could be "unpopular" just in the sense of most people not taking much notice to them without being hated or pushed around. These are the sort of people most others will think of as "OK" but not particularly interesting. Conversely there are also people who have a "love them or hate them" effect on other people where very few people are going to take a neutral stance on them (in fact this seems to be the rule with human politicians at least in the US). Maybe this level of complexity doesn't happen with macaques, so that could be a limitation to the study. There's also the fact that people belong to multiple social groups among humans, and sometimes the boss in one group may be at the bottom of the totem pole in another group. And for the most part people at the very bottom will either advance or they will eventually look for another group if possible.
sicktoaster
-thx for this intelligent, refreshing, well-though out comment♡
oh, and i agree with u.
I'm introverted and pretty much anti-social but socializing with other people isn't much of a hard task though. I like being with myself and I'm not overly reliant in social hierarchies. I'm happy and only get menial stress because of college stuff.
Am I going to die very soon?
and you know.... more money means less stress, less stress means living longer. it's not rocket science.
If that title wasn't intended to be click bait, I'm not sure what is.
Still did not get an answer...
So is it something in mental health that makes us sick if we are lower in the hierarchy? Lower class are usually the workforce, which means they move more, shouldn't they live longer?
it‘s obviously healthcare. -.-
Very interesting. But the conclusion may not be correct. If we eliminate the social class - how can those in the highest social class live longer when there are no higher social class any longer? One could as well conclude that all will live shorter as there are no social class difference :)
So in other words, its better to be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond
Actually, if we could lessen the gap between the rich and poor, only those who are poor now would live longer. Those who are rich now would live shorter.
It's because of the psychological strain between the 2 spots, when you're high on the social scale you experience the bad parts of life much less then when you're at the bottom and constantly barraged by them. And since psychological strain directly relates to physical state of being it in turn strains everything else, so the same people over the same 10 year stretch will be much more exhausted and in worse shape if they're at the low end then at the high end of the scale.
Yes because all the celebrities that died in 2016 were unpopular and poor.
Red Saiyan RIGHT!
In an increasingly secular society, it becomes necessary to use pseudoscience to enforce the cultual norms that we once utilised religion for.
So, would a person in poverty with low stress levels who makes healthy lifestyle choices have a long, healthy life?
If life is unfair, then is stealing justified? Life is unfair,stealing is unfair.... When the world doesn't do good to us, why do good for the world?
Sci-Twi Or a gigantic black hole close by to earth devouring us or by strong ass Gamma Rays and such (つ°ヮ°)つ
everyone says stealing is unfair and wrong, but if the world is unfair and society wrongs us, stealing is morally justified.
True, but thats the old way of stealing. Nowadays its all done online behind Tor. Only a small fraction gets caught.
you call it stealing, they call it borrowing for a good cause. Everything is possible in a person's life as long as he can bare with the consequences.
We could all live shorter lives if you lessen the gap.
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Popularity is just one factor.There are others like diet,activity,personality etc..
Unpopular people live shorter lives? How the feck have I made it to 40?!
You keep mixing social status and monetary status. That's a major flaw. Lots of millionaires are reclusive. Likewise, plenty of poor and working class people are very social and have lots of friends and acquaintances.
Charles Eye Thank u, i see SOMEONE has on theor thinking cap...
This thing isnt as complicated as ppl are making it to be and to study monkeys for a long ass time JUST to come up with their bs conclusion was just a waste of time lol
Does unpopular mean poor ? I thought I am gonna die soon cuz I'm an unpopular kid in college.
so how about the life expectancy of a Scandinavian county?
Chiel Fernhout About 5-6 years higher than in America last I checked.
I'm from Sweden btw.
Serah Wint Thank you :) but how about difference between the poor and rich?
Or we can drop the pathetic classifications and act as civilized as we pretend to be.
Doesn't the data more or less show the rich living much longer, and the poor living just a little longer as time went on?
December 2016 definitely disproves this
Jordan Steel -I was thinking this when i read the title of the video lol.
Jordan Steel
-Hell... LIFE disproves this lol!
I'm against the fact implied that popularity is to be absolutely reflected upon financial wealth. Was hoping for a better answer.
Its almost like social/environmental stresses effect health.
thank you for confirming that my unpopularity will make me die sooner. :|
Because rich people can afford health care and poor people can't
Popularity and wealth aren't the same thing. Very misleading title.
Melanie Borduas -Yes, VERY misleading.
**I've also noticed that there are ONLY a few intelligent comments on this thread.
Glad i found yours too, cuz i was losing hope in the intelligence of humanity lol.
"Scientists have struggled to untangle the cause for decades"
That's a pretty flawed statement. Even 1950s sociologists could have answered this question. The cause is obvious, and it has little to do with popularity.
A common saying in Public Health practice is that the flow of wealth mirrors the flow of health. Wealthier people have more resources, better food and job security, better access to healthcare, more control over their living environments, better influence on the government and ruling systems, better insurance against economic downturns... I can go on and on, but the point is there's no mystery to solve here.
Popularity is, at best, an associated factor in a much larger and more relevant list of things that improve the survival chances of the wealthy.
I'm an aspie monkey so I don't care.
3D4Ureel
You are in good company :)
What's this social hierarchy they talk about? :3
Seriously though. Intellectually I know its a thing, but after that its just muddy for me
No! I'm gonna die soon! 😭
Everybody dies so it's a lose-lose . Try to defer the certainty as it becomes the biggest illusion thought of known to existence
Well, I actually started noticing this as well..
That is not true, "Why do rich people live longer and poor people?"
When money holds no use, and people throw away their needs for material things and we start to starve to death, then we'll be all equal. Because instinct will kick in and the animal inside us will try to take over again.
It's all a big cycle.
Marc Pons We still won't be equal because most animals that live in groups have some sort of hierarchy.
this is not true, my nan wasn't rich at all and she's in her late 80s and still living strong, my mom and dad are not rich either ad there in the early-mid 50s, this theory is bs in this video
Moses Jonson Ever heard of anecdotal evidence?
If we would lessen the gap the poor would die later and the rich would die sooner than they do now
Harambe?
He was popular and died early
You lied to us!
Harambe lives forever.
I got so into this video, I thought it was Ted-ed.
What if I don't want friends nor need them?
Oh thanks im going to die early. Now i will never realize my dream of going to japan.
PizzaCome it's okay Japan is weird and full of strange looking people
This is an incredibly well made video and I really like it. It has a great style. But does it fit well into the channel? I really liked the videos where the speaker is shown, that is part why I subscribed here. If you wanna develop into this direction, I will stay with you, but please note that you are diminishing the differences to other channels like seeker which takes a bit of your unicness and can end with people (incl. me) jumping off for other channels because you don't offer anything different or better.
This is a very weired comment because I am tired. I am sorry, but I hope you git my point. Love y'all!
Um, humans do not form strict social hierarchies.
or conversely if the gap were smaller we would all live shorter on average that is