The filthy grin and laugh on Jada was even worse! She is vile and toxic as fuck. I am disgusted by Will but also feel alot of sympathy for him honestly he was visibly not mentally stable and that does NOT make what he did ok but it is very sad
@@palestalemale1779 oh plzzzz he laughed immediately after the joke 1st off, 2nd off u don't get physical in response 2some1 saying WORDS..& lastly u DO NOT fuckin storm in stage like some Lil b*tch who's on his f*#$in rag & not given TWO FUCKS about any1 else there that was there night 4their accomplishments..further more his wife ain't got some crazy deadly disease She has alephesia for heaven's sakes a condition ppl can get due to aging..so miss me w/all that defending his wife bullshit..even if he truly was butt hurt from that joke he could pulled Chris aside & told him..that was a cocky move cuz he felt he was entitled & could get away w/it which he did..
Imagine getting assaulted in front of millions of viewers and an auditorium of your peers, then seeing all of them stand and applaud your attacker. This incident will change Chris.
Yea I was assaulted at a state hospital I worked at, and I never recovered. I couldn’t even live in the town I grew up in because of the hate I got for retiring on disability.
That's exactly what I was going to say. How did Will go from laughing authentically to violent rage so fast? And poor Chris Rock, never suspecting that his friend was really that mad, just stood there with his hands behind his back and said, "Uh oh!" The poise and grace he showed after the slap demonstrates the kind of man he is. What an example he set for his kids, all of his fans, and the rest of us as well. Bravo Mr. Rock! You have the world's utmost respect.
His son wears dresses, his wife gets to have any other men she wants while he must stay "loyal". This is a broken cuck-man whose dreams of fame 30 years ago turned into a nightmare.
"That's how we do it" Really, mommy sleeps with our friends. Didn't show any concern for dad's mental state. Seems like their usual ego driven behavior. Mayor of Hollywood.
Chris Rock’s shock and his bewildered expression was so heartbreaking…we were all confused and hurting along with him. The fact that he was bullied when younger makes it all that much worse.
@@jasonwarren8740 yes. He's a comedian on stage. End of. The line of how offensive it was is actually irrelevant. Even if he said something outrageously offensive like 'you look like a Holocaust victim with a double dose of cancer' you don't hit over words. You talk back. You shake your head. You go up and ask for an apology first. You tear him down after the show for being rude and over the line. If it's truly offensive the media will do the work for you. This was mild at best. A random dated joke of middling sting and it's been blown up because of what Will did.
@@jasonwarren8740 Even if that wasn't completely beside the point, which it is, and even if it wasn't allowed, which it is, the appropriate response is not to get out your seat and wallop the guy across the face. That's the response of someone with a condition of their own that they clearly need professional help with.
@@jasonwarren8740thing is Chris may not have known she had hair loss from an immune issue. If he was not aware how could he possibly make fun of her ailment?
It bothered me all night. I’m surprised at how many people this affected by this. His acceptance speech was total gaslighting. I’m so glad you guys are talking about Chris and his well being.
My daughter works in live theatre. This sets such a HUGE precedent for any stage performance. Smith SHOULD have said only "I was wrong, no one should strike anyone on stage" a thousand times over. But instead, he actually tried to justify himself and make excuses. It also was so egotistical for him to not only get up there shamelessly, but to yack about himself and how "offended" he had been, and take away that moment from the other people involved in the film who will probably never have that level of acknowledgment for their work again. My daughter and I both noticed that the night of the event, the tech people BTS put a logo screen over Smith's visual, multiple times. They only stopped doing that after he gave his pitiful excuse for an apology. The Academy was NOT comfortable with letting him speak. They probably assumed he would do the polite thing and stay off stage to hand the time on screen to his cast and crew. But they forgot about his ego.
@@anneahlert2997 I’m a theatre actor and I think you’re exacerbating the effect it will have on STAGE PERFORMANCES. Since they’re scripted and the audience are of a certain mind - however this could cause a huge problem for STAND UP COMEDIANS. Not necessarily stage actors
I think the laughing was a continuation of the jokes Chris had said previously. Chris busts out a lot of back-to-back jokes, so it's possible the mood of the room was in nonstop laugh mode. When it finally clicked with Will that the last joke was on his wife, a switch flipped. I could be wrong. Regardless, I think it's pretty evident something is not right in that marriage. And what's up with Willow, she is always dressed so mysterious in cloaks with hoods and dark glasses and shit? Like a cleric or a thief character from Dungeons and Dragons.
no one came to Chris's aid, not the Academy, not anyone in the audience... Chris overcame the initial shock, fell back on his veteran experience cause "the show must go on". The double standing ovation, outpouring of support he received at his own show was well deserved... Good on him. Feel sorry for Will, hope he sorts out whatever is going on in his personal life because hammering someone at the Oscars on stage just isn't normal.
I’m not sure I feel sorry for him, but just on a human level he’s either a piece of shit person or he’s having a hard time and needs some therapy. I don’t know him enough to know which it is.
I was struck by your comments about what Chris Rock must be thinking about with no one from the Academy rushing to his defense. That in itself is outrageous!
I’m 6’8” 300lbs and can say that big guys are very aware of size in a confrontation. I was actually bullied relentlessly in school because the smaller guys knew that I couldn’t do anything about it. I still struggle with the trauma of that from the 90s. Will Smith absolutely knew, even in the heat of the moment, that he was attacking someone he could have seriously hurt. The slap wasn’t an attempt to hurt Rock, but it was absolutely an assertion of dominance over a smaller man. Sometimes all it takes is a push or a faint to exert this dominance, and bullying almost never includes violent actions that seriously injure the smaller person-that’s not typically the goal of a bully. What we saw at the Oscars was Will Smith bullying Chris Rock in a very familiar way to most smaller folks. The assertion that it was harmless because it was “only a slap” is ridiculous.
I bet if you retaliated as a child they would have left you alone regardless of how tall you were. School yard bullies need to be put down a peg or two whether physically or by word, it will shut them up. Hope you feel better about yourself with time, no matter what you look like idiots always find something to take the piss out of. Fantastic being as tall as you,you won’t be forgotten in a hurry
I remember watching Don Rickles when I was a kid. Celebrities in the audience would hope Rickles would mention them in a joke. They knew they’d arrived if Rickles joked about them. Chris’ joke was pretty mild compared to the ones Rickles used to say.
I agree with you both. Chris was totally professional, he took the high road, and for him to continue to remain silent per the situation is given myself so much respect for his character and integrity.
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc He truly did. My opinion is, he set a good example of how to handle a bad situation. It really could have turned out so much worse. He's got my full respect.
He was silent because will told him a long time ago to chill out on the jokes about his wife after he was talking shit about Jada in 2016.Not only did he talk shit about Jada again he didn't even run the joke by the Oscar committee.Rock was being a selfish ass hole trying to get attention for his comedy tour.But he got embarrassed and got the wrong type of attention getting slapped on national television by a grown man!
After he was slapped and Will Smith was screaming at him, Rock started to say, “I could, ohhh okaay…” and left it there. Yup, the restraint that he showed was almost superhuman…he COULD HAVE, but HE DIDN’T. He is brilliant, quick-minded, funny and incredible, taking the high road in a bad situation always wins.
It was messed up on so many levels. The fact he did it. It wasn’t really a mean joke. The fact he was laughing about the joke 30 seconds before assaulting Chris. They way he seemed so proud of himself as he strutted back to his seat. The fact he was allowed to stay. The fact he was apparently asked to leave and refused. The fact that he apologized to everyone but Chris when he got his award. His family crowing about it online and seeing Will dancing the night away at an after party.I am sure there are more things but those jump out at me at the moment. Chris was amazing in the way he took the slap and tried to defuse the situation and continued. He really rose in my estimation of him at that moment.
Saying Jada should be the next GI Jane is not a "really mean joke." Stop with this stupid narrative. GI Jane is a bad ass character and it's a role that is far too good for Jada.
I agree with you and you covered everything that bothered me as well. Dancing the night away to his own lame music. He is just an embarrassment. I don't know what's going on in his life but everything that happened was inexcusable and the fact that there's people out there defending it makes me sick.
I quit watching Smith's documentary when he verbally bullied a crew member, I thought it might have been a one off but now I'm not so sure. There's no way to describe the assault on Chris as anything other than grotesque. Hope he's ok.
I appreciate the discussion of bullying here. I hadn't thought of that in this situation but I see it now. So important to bring this topic out into the light more and more and more.
his acceptance speech reads like the excuses given to every victim of DV: love makes us do crazy things. It’s because I love that I hit. And he gets a standing ovation?! FFS I’m still shook … ffffed up my whole week
@@sl4983 Funny how those ascertainment's happen, eh? You know his book hits the shelves next week...and just like that, everyone is interested in Hollywood again. Same political theater as DC.
My heart goes out to Chris Rock. Completely. I still want to cry. He must have been in total schock mode. He is a real man. Steady as can be. Big love to you Mr. Rock.
This is a spot on discussion about a terrible moment in 'Hollywood' behaviour Chris Rock really was a rock under terrible circumstances He was out there alone sadly and what an amazing job he did You Rock Chris!!
i dont think his oscar should be toooking back because the award represents the job he did in his acting wicch even i who hates will simp have to admit that was good it SHOULDNT have ben presented to him on live tv and he shouldnt have gotten his ridiculouse ball like im a victim baby bullsh*t speech it should have ben mailed to him via ups everything else u said i 100% agree let rock host next year and 10 years ban on the academy for little willy simp but the stain the will put on his legacy will be forever remembered ... i dont even think much movies would let him back into the mix let alone alot of people going and watching it but time wil tell i love comedians .. they make life just a little easier by making jokes, there take on reality is very funny gets people thru the day f-u will for even thinking u had the mental audacity to illegally walk up on stage and slap a OLD SKOOOL COMEDIAN LEGEND LIKE CHRIS ROCK f-u all day
There's obviously something more going on among the 3 of them. The way Will Smith laughed at the joke first & then wife's look reminded him of something else & he felt impelled to act. Like maybe, keep my wife's name out of yr mouth, becoz u talk behind her back. But no way should he slap Chris Rock on stage.
At the end of the day, Chris Rock's children haven't said a thing. While, Will Smith's children have released snarky remarks. Chris Rock's daughters are as classy as their father.
I was 100 % triggered by Smiths actions - it took me a couple of days to calm down. So horrific to see in that context. Will has been so emasculated by Jada for years and I saw this coming. She is going to be the downfall for Will and the entire family.
WONDER WHY WILLY WENT WACKO?! This is what I believe happened to Will (I know this because it happened to the friend of my father's uncle's in-law! 😜). Knowing that Jada sleeps around, as she had revealed to him, that she slept with her own child's friend aughh...🤒😰 (sorry that part gives me the hibi jibis 😏🙄), Will's mind is now roaming to imagine who else she had slept with, that she is not telling him. Knowing that Chris and Jada worked together for a long time, away from Will, on Madagascar 1, 2 and 3. Chris becomes more suspect! Will must have cooped up and nursed a conviction in his head that Chris must have also had a piece of his promiscuous wife's pudding. So, when he saw Jada's reaction at the Oscars, he finally convinced himself that they definitely made out! That caused the regrettable outburst! WHEN YOU HAVE A CHEATING WIFE, EVERY DUDE AROUND YOU BECOMES SUSPICIOUS AND A LITTLE MISUNDERSTANDING CAN TRIGGER A TSUNAMIC HIROSHIMA!
Exactly! That's what I saw, a bully charging at someone and it was disturbing. The standing ovation was the equivalent of enablers who standby and watch a kid get bullied and do nothing cause the bully is popular. Disgraceful.
The way the Hollywood big shots acted; the way the Academy enabled Will to go on without taking any action are, to me, the most disgusting thing! People with an ounce of decency should boycott Oscar and Hollywood. It's totally screwed up.
The same folks that call words violence, defend will Smith. Its wild times ... I certainly have a new level of respect for the professionalism Chris Rock displayed.
Why are people so obsessed with defending people?? Refuting Will Smith's actions is about calling out right and wrong. Reducing these arguments about bullying/violence/comedy to 'defending your friend' is 180 degrees missing the point. I'm sure Will Smith felt he was 'defending' his wife.
Thank you both for weighing in on this. Love your straightforward take. I too was a certified pip-squeek ... in 8th grade a guy karate-kicked me in the back--didn't see it coming--couldn't brace for it--real gem of a guy. That shit shapes a person. I did learn to make people laugh as a way to survive. Love both of your comedy styles & bits over the years. Y'all consistently provide joy. Thank you for that. Love this podcast.
You two are so right!! I was abused by an ex over 40 years ago and Will Smith was definitely in the wrong. His stance and demeanor showed my ex-husband to the core!!
All the stupid people saying this don't realize that Jada would be laughing the loudest at getting any attention from the Rock. And Will would go up stage to fist bump Dwayne to bond with the alpha so her beta wife could try to sleep with him in two years.
If I did that, I'd be sitting in handcuffs. Chris Rock is officially an American Hero to me. Love your wit and wisdom David Spade and Dana Carvey. Laugh on...
As an abuse survivor, I was triggered by the "love makes you do crazy things..." comment more than anything. He should have been escorted out. Period. Pick up your Oscar after the ceremony.
I appreciated the insights here on this. No one deserves to be hit, much less on national tv surrounded by their colleagues. I get the academy was caught off guard, we all were, but to let him sit down and continue like he didn’t just severely cross a boundary…. 😨 I always thought Will was a healthy person and so friendly too, this definitely had me rethinking everything I think I know about my favorite actors/actresses.
Chris handled that the best he could. My heart goes out to him. Why didn't anyone check on him moments afterwards? To Chris, David and Dana...thanks for the laughter through all the years.
Great to hear from ya both. People are even calling Rock the bully, saying he had it coming! Comedy and free speech is in trouble when one of the biggest movie stars in the world commits a crime on a presenter at the academy awards and people applaud him for protecting women!!!
What happened to security? Everyone acted like this is normal behavior. Slapping, hitting of any kind Is the Lowest Form of Communication ever! Since when is it ok to ever act out like that in society. Chris Rock was hired to be a comedian not get slapped. How is this ok by any means?
Up is down. Down is up. Hollywood is a Bizarro World where the guy with words is the bully and the guy with action is the victim. This totally went against the Hollywood push to include more black people in spades (pun(s) intended). The black host of The Oscars got slapped by the black Best Actor winner. Hattie McDaniel and Sidney Portier are spinning in their graves. Aries Spears made a good point: “only n*****s can turn the Oscars into the Source Awards.”
@@thinkingoutloud675 Chris just did his job, Oscar host always roast people, will on the other hand actually committed a crime and as a role model gave such a bad example to people, probably going through some serious mental issues atm because that reaction was so misplaced / way too much
I felt so bad for Chris. Will needs serious help. You can't just go around hitting people. Hopefully, he'll get the help he desperately needs. So weird how he was laughing about it and then got mad. C'mon we know Chris makes jokes. I guess Will and Jada don't understand since they are obviously sheltered.
Will Smith has been in a toxic marriage for a long time and this just shows that it's eating away at him. He needs a separation followed by therapy. But I don't know if his ego allows him to fail at a marriage.
This sums up everything that I felt, thought and reacted to. Will Smith's problems are not an excuse. And, he did 'double down' which only made it worse. My heart hurt for Chris Rock in that horrible moment.
What bothered me most about the moment when Will Smith approached Chris Rock onstage was that he looked very deliberate. He looked like someone who is used to hitting people and perhaps has the attitude that they deserve it. He didn't get up on that stage with any intention other than hitting Rock. He wasn't looking to grab the mic and bite back with banter, engage in an argument, or demand an apology for his wife. Then he turned his back on Rock and walked away. That was a display of power, a belief that there would be no accountability. He didn't stay to engage Rock in an argument, didn't expect him to hit Smith back, didn't show any surprise or unsettlement over his actions in the aftermath. People who are not accustomed to employing physical violence might lose their temper and hit someone, but they tend to react when they realize they've done it. They also don't usually get up from their seat, walk up steps and cross a stage to do it in the first place. Thank you for talking about the other ramifications of that incident. If I had been receiving an award that night, I don't think I could have refrained from condemning Smith's action while I had the stage. I was shocked that so many went on like nothing had happened.
Diminutive people everywhere - male or female - were triggered watching Smith smack Chris Rock. Smith's smug swagger as he was walking away after he smacked Chris shows Smith didn't just do it out of losing his temper: WILL SMITH ENJOYED IT! Bullies unload on their victims it makes them feel better cuz they're sick in the soul.
It scares me what will does when the cameras aren't rolling, if he will go that far when they r. I'm still realing from watching it as an abuse survivor. It terrifies me how ppl have victim shamed Chris or said it was fake or they side with the only person in the room that broke the law... This is going to be in my mind a long time, because if this can happen to ppl like Chris in this situation. The rest of us... What can we expect going forward?
We're coming up on almost two weeks since this incident and it's amazing how we're still discussing it. It struck a chord with so many people. Really still a head scratcher.
I love you David, sooooorrry for your friend's assault :( . I know how close you guys are. You and all of the 90's stars who defined the 90s...you guys hold a special place in all of our hearts ❤ . You have such good hearts. You guys should definitely make sure your relationships are strong for life. You guys are a good influence.
Aside from hearing directly from Chris, hearing comments from David and Dana is super insightful. We’ve grown up with you both and have much respect for your input in such an occurrence. Sending you all much love and positivity. Keep up the jokes, freedom of thought and speech. And stay funny 😊
Coming at it as smaller people watching a larger person hit a smaller person, that made me relate. As a woman who is often well aware of her physical strength compared to men, that's a take I hadn't heard yet. And to point out how nobody came to Chris's aid in the moment. Wow. I'm glad I took time to listen to this take.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings guys. You two have been tops on my list for a very long time. I also have some sad thoughts about being bullied as a kid. I am a 72 year old woman who is half Italian and half German. I took alot of crap as a kid that i just never understood. Now, after all these years, i am beginning to talk about my experiences. However, more importantly, i am learning to stay away from toxic people. Like those who are now adults, but still have no clue as to why i act weird around them. I love you guys!!! You each have brought laughter into my life. Thank you.
The fact that it was small, harmless, nice guy Chris Rock, that EVERYONE knows is one of the least threatening comedians, compared to 50 lbs bigger Will Smith tells you everything.
That slap was the sound of the whole Hollywood, tinsel town glamor coming to an end. The Oscar's as a show is dated, antiquated, stick a fork in it, done. Social media has killed the illusion of the fake Hollywood heroes. Everyone, I believe, is sick of their crap.
Agree. Will laughed at the joke! Then I bet his wife shot daggers at him for laughing, then he realized that the rest of his evening, or maybe the next few days, wouldn’t be very much fun, then he says to himself, “I guess I better do something.” If he would’ve stayed in his seat and said what he said, it would’ve probably all blown over by now.
You don’t know if he registered the joke. Maybe he thought he was talking about her uplifting nature. And then when he realized he was talking about her medical condition combined with the insult Chris Rock said when he hosted the Oscars in 2016 about Jada and it was like “not again..”
@@luv2luv720 Yep. The stories are starting to surface. Some actors that have worked with him are speaking up. And it's NOT flattering. He is described as moody & a "bully".
I wasn't bullied but what Will Smith still triggered me. That's how bad and terrible that violent act was. Bravo to Chris Rock for holding it well at that time. The Academy handled this incident so poorly and grossly.
One thing that just I have a hard time reconciling is how difficult it would be to remain on stage after being attacked in front of your attacker. How vulnerable for Chris. As a victim of less severe circumstances, I cannot imagine how tough it would be to remain in front of your attacker.
Thank you both for speaking out on this. Comedy is an art much as any other performing art. Comedy is sacred and should be respected as such. This is crossing a line and totally unacceptable.
How can anyone hit Chris Rock and his big smiling face even at a drunk party but the Oscars on stage with tens of hundreds of people watching it on t.v.??
@@sn2wn Your response was hidden so I had to click on Hide Reply. My thought exactly, Now that I stopped laughing, I had to check the numbers, 16.6m. Not too far off. Now I'd love to know the guestimate of Super Bowl 2022. lol
I was bullied as well and this definitely triggered me. I had a similar situation without me telling a joke first. Now I wish that I would have. I love Chris Rock and seeing him treated that way really hurt my soul. I really don't think he knew about Jada's alopecia and even if he did is still wouldn't warrant a backhand publicly in front of the whole world. He should have never been allowed to accept that oscar.
thank you for supporting chris rock. i can feel the genuine care that you have for him. i totally identify with being bullied. it stays with you forever.
I was so hurt to see NO ONE from the show go over to Chris Rock and see if he was OK. You could tell he was shocked and hurt as he was forced to just move on with the show. 😔
Should see the videos of Smith at his after party. With the Oscar clutched in one hand and the other flailing about as he sang along to gettin jiggy with it. He was all smiles and I had to wonder about the mental state of this person. I was in awe of the narcissistic, hypocrite, disappointment of a man Will has become and the fact that we as a species really give a crap about this at all. People look to these entertainers for something, consciously or unconsciously and this is the end result when fame, money and a sea of yes men and women live in an illusion. We have severed the connection of our spirits on a massive scale and in this last decade, the chickens are coming home to roost.
imagine how traumatic that experience is for Chris. it was disturbing for us watching it…must’ve been 1000 times worse for Chris. to be on stage with everyone’s attention and having been slapped and then heckled - Chris is a strong man. i would’ve crumbled and cried. the slap alone would’ve sent me on the floor. people get head injuries from slaps - thankfully Chris didn’t fall over and has a strong jaw. but mentally…i hope Chris is ok. he is a class act! love and support for Chris!!
It is heartbreaking that Chris probably thought he had reached a place in his life where he was safe and proud after his rough past and then that happened.
IT's great to have at least some people acknowledge what happened, without being overly emotional. It was an assault, and the healthiest thing we can do as a society is to see this for what it was.
Will was fine until he looked at Jada. What kind of hold do you have over someone that you can make them go from laughter to a punk? That’s a toxic relationship if ever I saw one. Also, the look of pure entitlement on Will’s face as he walked back to his seat was so telling, so elitist. I mean… was this a one off night or were we seeing the REAL Will Smith?
As someone who was disturbed by watching an assault on live TV, I just want to say thanks for using your platform to stick up for Chris Rock, he is a a real professional.
When it happened, and then going back to his seat like nothing. And yelling profanitys. It hit me as someone who was abused 50 yrs. ago. My heart goes out to Chris. Shame on Willing
I didn't love or hate Will Smith before but he seemed like a good guy. Mostly pretty good funny movies. Have never watched a dramatic performance by him so can't comment on him being "Oscar worthy". But I went from not hating him to hating him in that split second. Should never have been allowed to stay and that standing ovation was disgusting. Became a HUGE Chris Rock fan in that same moment.
As Dana said he was 5' tall when he started high school. I was 4'9"! I also had social anxiety (still do) which caused me to avoid going to my locker where all the people were. So all of my books were in my backpack, the weight of which caused me to hunch a bit. So I was basically this short hunchback that was an extremely easy target for bullying. One kid even stole my backpack, burned it and threw it in a swamp. Claimed he was teaching me a lesson for keeping everything in my backpack at once.
Not sure if Dana or David reads these comments but great podcast. I didn’t know you guys had one but completely enjoyable. Loved your movies, thank you guys for the additional thought and conversation!
David, I’ve always thought you were the coolest and funniest guy! I don’t want to make you feel old but I’ve adored you since I was little. Some of my best memories are watching your movies and laughing my ass off. Tommy Boy with my dad. The Emperor’s New Groove with my brother. And just recently the 2nd Transylvania movie with my son. Feels good to hear your voice, especially standing up for Chris Rock. ❤️
Shame on Denzel Washington for hugging and checking in on Will Smith, but not even thinking of Chris who was the Victim! Both Will and Denzel loss my respect, time and money!
I loved that Chris said I could.. then caught himself, in said more in that silence than he ever could have said out loud!!! But he could have hit Smith back harder if he did want to use his words!!!
Jim Carey said it best Hollyweird is Spineless...Since when does the Villian become the Victim and the Victim become the Villian... Chris Rock is a comedian and his job is to tell jokes good or bad it's just freaking jokes...Where was Jada's feelings hurt after she has been caught by numerous camera angles laughing at Will's assault on Chris...Her behind wasn't focused on her Alopecia then... It's NOT about the Alopecia it was about WHO had the jokes, if the jokes came from August then it wouldn't have been an issue... Narcissism at it's finest... Much Love, respect and honor to the way Chris Rock has, is and will continue to handle this situation...🤔
100% Jada is a virulent narcissist. She could not stand the attention being put on Will. She found a way to put it on her. Will was wrong but Jada 100% caused his reaction due to her horrid narcissism.
I am sorry for all whom get bullied in their young lives. David and Dana you are both brilliant, as well as Chris Rock. I completely felt as though what Will Smith did was such a cowardly act. I do not understand anyone in the audience giving Will Smith a standing ovation? It was horrific, appalling, uncalled for, and obscene. Chris Rock was an ultimate professional. Will Smith was an ultimate crazy eyed person shouting out stuff like you would see in a back alley….not in an ornately packed theater full of beautifully dressed, award winning celebrities. I mean come on…….when is this crap going to stop? I hope in my lifetime as I am pushing into my late 60’s, and having lived through a once moderately polite society at one time. For all you performers out there on stage, are you kinda scared about people like Will Smith coming after you? What has become of us? It is just mind boggling to me that no one came up to Chris Rock to make sure he was okay. The cameras just kept rolling. To make matters more dramatic; the cameras were focusing on Will Smith and his wandering Wanda of a wife Jada. Chris Rocks brilliant statement, “Well this was the best moment in television history.” He nailed it, didn’t he?!” Thank you David Spade and Dana Carvey, for your voice of truth and compassion here. I know it wasn’t easy for you guys to talk about being bullied in your lives. Your voices and wisdom matter especially to a grandmother of a boy that is smaller in stature whom I worry about. I love this boy with all my heart in a world that has changed so much, and that I am not sure I like very much right now. To all the Will Smiths in the world I just have no words, but I would implore you to use your words and not your hands. HANDS ARE NOT FOR HURTING. This was on a refrigerator magnet that was in plain sight front and center whilst my children were growing up. Maybe it should make a comeback for everyone’s fridge👍
I know Will Smith talked about his dad beating his mom when he was younger, and him feeling bad about not being able to "protect her." So I saw something in his childhood coming up, especially since Regina Hall had mentioned Jada earlier but go no such treatment. I hope he seeks counseling and comes to realize it was never his job to protect his mother and deals with this legacy of violence from his father. I'm glad Chris Rock , your friend, is okay. There's a moment in the video where he clenches his fist like he is going to hit back, and then he puts his hands behind his back and I thought back to this very podcast where he talked about how he feared he had killed a kid once (and obviously I hope that fear of being angry would never keep him from defending himself if he were in real danger) but I thought it was good that he was more in control of himself and aware enough to diffuse the moment and not turn it into a brawl. So sorry to think that David and Dana were also victims of violence as children. It's a real stain on our culture.
My guess is that it was because everyone has been making fun of his open marriage that they put on display for the world to see. Their kids are messed up and the son wanted to be emancipated at 15. There's a lot going on there.
Hated seeing a person being hit in an unexpected encounter, reminded me of childhood, turned my guts and I felt Chris’s spirit buckle for a moment. Like I hope the demons didn’t sneak back into Chris’s head, he was literally attacked by a bully in front the whole school,…and a few billion viewers. I guess Jada wanted Wills night to be all about her.
Well said guys. What came to my mind immediately after it was the time Chris guested on your podcast. The part when Chris spoke of being bullied but also the time he turned and retaliated with beating that bully badly with a pillowcase with brick thing. And how years later with therapy it allowed him to own his shit and work on that anger problem as it really messed with him for years. As you know and heard. So I’m in no doubt that had he not done the work, he would’ve likely smacked Will right back, being triggered to retaliate in anger. Bravo for that, I admire Chris so much. What a wonderful human he was in the moment, it was crushing to watch him though, knowing it would’ve brought up so much in that moment, exposed to the world and I’d say deeply hurt too, yet stayed calm with a strong composure. I shared that 3 min excerpt of that podcast on social media and of course I got back ‘so being bullied makes it ok to bully Will?’ MWhat the actual… I was such a huge WS fan too, I went off him instantly. He needs to do the work too and own his shit. Chris has a massive supportive team that love him and thank goodness for that.
Those people who misunderstood your your opinion and your post honestly need to take a good look at their own. Honestly, since when does telling a joke qualify as bullying? Kudos to you for not looking at this horrible situation with upside down lenses.
not the same " bully", he got comforted from those hollywood A list elite after he slap someone, and standing ovation 15 mins later. your high school "bully" will get kicked out ,suspended,strip of whatever title or maybe arrested. so Yeah , power and money do get you different treatment.
I'm so glad you guys talked about this from a comedian and friend standpoint. I completely agree with everything! What happened was a bully knowing he would get away with it due to size and status level in Hollywood. If that were Snoop or The Rock, basically anyone his size or bigger, Will Smith would've kept on sitting. Chris Rock handled himself so well! Will Smith's "apology" is faker than his marriage! What happened to this podcast on RUclips? Can you bring it back on this channel?
Exactly Dana. I’m pretty sure there is a no violence disclosure clause. If that slap was “real” no security pulled. I’m super mad, that security did not kick Will Smith out of the event. Will Smith definitely should been kicked out .
Yes, yes, yes. Thanks for talking about the disgusting behavior of those coddling Will, allowing will to accept his award, and A standing ovation WTF. Chris Rock’s behavior was my jaw dropping moment because he was in such control, he wanted to verbally snap back but checked himself. Thanks for pointing to Chris’s self restraint, that should be highlighted by more people. What a hero.
Love you guys, this show is GREAT!!! Thanks for mentioning the bully thing, abusive people and bullies are the only thing that triggers me really and that's exactly what this was. Talk about loosing your "good will" from the public. Very Roman.
I bet Chris Rock felt a little alone, considering everyone in the room gave Will Smith a standing ovation by the end of the night. Even comedians like Tiffany Haddish didn't have his back. I just hope he knows how much he's loved. Twitter popped off with pro-Will Smith tweets, but it made me realize most of Chris’ supporters aren't maniacs fighting on Twitter. We are people that recognize a violent act when we see it and appreciate comedy. I know Chris will be okay, just hope he knows that millions love him. Everyone that gave Will Smith a standing ovation needs to look in the mirror and question themselves. They saw someone get assaulted and applauded the offender. Gross.
I’ve been dying to hear your thoughts…I was super surprised on how triggered I was by that happening… I’m not a celebrity so what I saw which is the most disgusting thing to me, was someone that felt so entitled that it would be even close to being acceptable… was just such a gross narcissistic Activity to me. I love karma though because it helps us all see what am standup guy Chris is, and what a little out of his mind narcissist will is IMO.. I feel very thankful for you guys being such a large voice in Media these days speaking up .. that it wasn’t ok, and I hope that’s what is remembered over a funny~crazy no big deal incident that people laugh about
I was bullied HARD as well. I am a much different guy now 25 yrs later... Will is a bully, that WAS a bully moment. With that, I can imagine so many bullied children/youth all over America being traumatized by the shock of that happening in what's to be a safe, family friendly environment. Thanks for sharing such sincere thoughts about yourselves in this podcast.
Chris Rock, I was not a big fan, but after this incident showed me so much more about who and what you're made of. You are a class act Sir and I applaud you. BRAVO
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The smirk on Will’s face the moment after hitting Chris was disgusting. 🤮
Agreed. It actually made me feel a bit sick to my stomach. Soo smug...ugh.😢
Yes Will is a Punk!
Me too! I only noticed it today when I saw some stills. He was so pleased with himself. Gross.
The filthy grin and laugh on Jada was even worse! She is vile and toxic as fuck. I am disgusted by Will but also feel alot of sympathy for him honestly he was visibly not mentally stable and that does NOT make what he did ok but it is very sad
Too smug.
Spade is a legend glad he’s defending his friend
Absolutely! Love you, Spade! Love, Dana! Both are so incredibly brilliant and funny and I'm so glad that they are defending their friend.
so's dana ...so's chris ...that whole 1990s snl crew adam sandler michael myers phil hartman
best snl crew ever
He's not defending his friend, he's calling out right and wrong. Will Smith was 'defending' his wife
@@palestalemale1779 oh plzzzz he laughed immediately after the joke 1st off, 2nd off u don't get physical in response 2some1 saying WORDS..& lastly u DO NOT fuckin storm in stage like some Lil b*tch who's on his f*#$in rag & not given TWO FUCKS about any1 else there that was there night 4their accomplishments..further more his wife ain't got some crazy deadly disease She has alephesia for heaven's sakes a condition ppl can get due to aging..so miss me w/all that defending his wife bullshit..even if he truly was butt hurt from that joke he could pulled Chris aside & told him..that was a cocky move cuz he felt he was entitled & could get away w/it which he did..
@@futuretimetraveller8677 Phil Hartman was murdered by his wife.
Imagine getting assaulted in front of millions of viewers and an auditorium of your peers, then seeing all of them stand and applaud your attacker. This incident will change Chris.
Oooohhh, I hadn't thought of it that way. Yikes, that must have been extremely harsh for Chris and hard to endure. What a mixed bag of emotions.
Yea I was assaulted at a state hospital I worked at, and I never recovered. I couldn’t even live in the town I grew up in because of the hate I got for retiring on disability.
I thought of that too. It's another reason I don't watch the Oscars. Watching that clip and the reaction from the crowd and the officials was madness.
He will be legendary like Dave Chapelle if he says "🖕 you guys I'm out!"
Oh, wow, I never saw it that way. Very traumatizing indeed.
The fact that Will Smith went from laughing at the joke to assaulting Rock within 20 seconds tells us Will and Jada have a disturbing relationship.
Jada has a hold on him
She gave a glance and he turned into an attack dog
...an "entanglement"...
That's exactly what I was going to say. How did Will go from laughing authentically to violent rage so fast? And poor Chris Rock, never suspecting that his friend was really that mad, just stood there with his hands behind his back and said, "Uh oh!"
The poise and grace he showed after the slap demonstrates the kind of man he is. What an example he set for his kids, all of his fans, and the rest of us as well. Bravo Mr. Rock! You have the world's utmost respect.
@@eltorocal yea I hate that expression
Lets be honest, you cant blame everything on a bad relationship.. How about having some fucking common sense?
Chris Rock is a class act. Kept on going like a pro. Much respect
Let's not forget Smiths' son posting " that is how we do it" afterwards. Great parenting! He is cancelled in my books. Love you Chris!!!
That fecking kid, right, when are they just going to let his career slumber in so we can forget about him?
His son wears dresses, his wife gets to have any other men she wants while he must stay "loyal". This is a broken cuck-man whose dreams of fame 30 years ago turned into a nightmare.
They are an odd family lol.
Letting your spouse get rammed by your son's friend? Hope Jaden enjoys his friends.
"That's how we do it" Really, mommy sleeps with our friends. Didn't show any concern for dad's mental state. Seems like their usual ego driven behavior. Mayor of Hollywood.
Chris Rock’s shock and his bewildered expression was so heartbreaking…we were all confused and hurting along with him. The fact that he was bullied when younger makes it all that much worse.
so since he was bullied he is allowed to make fun of a medical condition
@@jasonwarren8740 I think you have one
@@jasonwarren8740 yes. He's a comedian on stage. End of. The line of how offensive it was is actually irrelevant. Even if he said something outrageously offensive like 'you look like a Holocaust victim with a double dose of cancer' you don't hit over words. You talk back. You shake your head. You go up and ask for an apology first. You tear him down after the show for being rude and over the line. If it's truly offensive the media will do the work for you.
This was mild at best. A random dated joke of middling sting and it's been blown up because of what Will did.
@@jasonwarren8740 Even if that wasn't completely beside the point, which it is, and even if it wasn't allowed, which it is, the appropriate response is not to get out your seat and wallop the guy across the face. That's the response of someone with a condition of their own that they clearly need professional help with.
@@jasonwarren8740thing is Chris may not have known she had hair loss from an immune issue. If he was not aware how could he possibly make fun of her ailment?
It bothered me all night. I’m surprised at how many people this affected by this. His acceptance speech was total gaslighting. I’m so glad you guys are talking about Chris and his well being.
Gaslighting 100000%
@@TheTV1972 what’s that
My daughter works in live theatre. This sets such a HUGE precedent for any stage performance.
Smith SHOULD have said only "I was wrong, no one should strike anyone on stage" a thousand times over. But instead, he actually tried to justify himself and make excuses.
It also was so egotistical for him to not only get up there shamelessly, but to yack about himself and how "offended" he had been, and take away that moment from the other people involved in the film who will probably never have that level of acknowledgment for their work again.
My daughter and I both noticed that the night of the event, the tech people BTS put a logo screen over Smith's visual, multiple times. They only stopped doing that after he gave his pitiful excuse for an apology. The Academy was NOT comfortable with letting him speak. They probably assumed he would do the polite thing and stay off stage to hand the time on screen to his cast and crew. But they forgot about his ego.
@@anneahlert2997 I’m a theatre actor and I think you’re exacerbating the effect it will have on STAGE PERFORMANCES. Since they’re scripted and the audience are of a certain mind - however this could cause a huge problem for STAND UP COMEDIANS. Not necessarily stage actors
@@Azoria4 using emotional manipulation to justify your actions used against someone.
The speed at which Will Smith flipped from laughing at the joke to full-on attack mode was frighting to me.😱 Something's really wrong with Will.🧐
I think the laughing was a continuation of the jokes Chris had said previously. Chris busts out a lot of back-to-back jokes, so it's possible the mood of the room was in nonstop laugh mode. When it finally clicked with Will that the last joke was on his wife, a switch flipped. I could be wrong. Regardless, I think it's pretty evident something is not right in that marriage. And what's up with Willow, she is always dressed so mysterious in cloaks with hoods and dark glasses and shit? Like a cleric or a thief character from Dungeons and Dragons.
Yes….ands all this phoney talk about “love” being the answer to all problems…LOVE??? fore his friend??? No love for wife…just jealousy and insecurity.
@@johnlittle7181she was cutting herself, she stated on the show with her mom.
ya Will married a bully
I was bullied as a young girl and have defended others that have been bullied. This is unacceptable on all levels. Will and his wife need help.
Yeah they need to be thrown in a landfill
They need a beating
no one came to Chris's aid, not the Academy, not anyone in the audience... Chris overcame the initial shock, fell back on his veteran experience cause "the show must go on". The double standing ovation, outpouring of support he received at his own show was well deserved... Good on him. Feel sorry for Will, hope he sorts out whatever is going on in his personal life because hammering someone at the Oscars on stage just isn't normal.
Why feel sorry for will? He committed a crime. His behavior is inexcusable.
He lets other men have s3x with his wife but Rock makes a joke about her and that's too far? Will is a bit(h.
I’m not sure I feel sorry for him, but just on a human level he’s either a piece of shit person or he’s having a hard time and needs some therapy. I don’t know him enough to know which it is.
you feel sorry for a dude who has it made in life and stood up to make a fool of himself? lmao what the fuck
Chris may have thought it was a joke he was not in on.
I was struck by your comments about what Chris Rock must be thinking about with no one from the Academy rushing to his defense. That in itself is outrageous!
I would not doubt that Chris got a bonus check from the Academy!! They sure don't want a lawsuit!
Agree 💯; " Shame on the Academy"
Glad to know that Chris’ SNL buddies still got his back.
I’m 6’8” 300lbs and can say that big guys are very aware of size in a confrontation. I was actually bullied relentlessly in school because the smaller guys knew that I couldn’t do anything about it. I still struggle with the trauma of that from the 90s. Will Smith absolutely knew, even in the heat of the moment, that he was attacking someone he could have seriously hurt. The slap wasn’t an attempt to hurt Rock, but it was absolutely an assertion of dominance over a smaller man. Sometimes all it takes is a push or a faint to exert this dominance, and bullying almost never includes violent actions that seriously injure the smaller person-that’s not typically the goal of a bully. What we saw at the Oscars was Will Smith bullying Chris Rock in a very familiar way to most smaller folks. The assertion that it was harmless because it was “only a slap” is ridiculous.
I bet if you retaliated as a child they would have left you alone regardless of how tall you were. School yard bullies need to be put down a peg or two whether physically or by word, it will shut them up. Hope you feel better about yourself with time, no matter what you look like idiots always find something to take the piss out of. Fantastic being as tall as you,you won’t be forgotten in a hurry
Jeffrey - Thanks for adding this… really good perspective.
Chris Rock could have been seriously injured. Thanks for your insight!
It was a sucker punch...Will Smith is a punk POS coward.
I remember watching Don Rickles when I was a kid. Celebrities in the audience would hope Rickles would mention them in a joke. They knew they’d arrived if Rickles joked about them. Chris’ joke was pretty mild compared to the ones Rickles used to say.
In Australia when you hit someone off guard we call that a cowards punch. Smith has earnt the title.
We call it a Sucker Punch
@@free322001 sucker punch sounds more about the poor sucker who got punched
I agree with you both. Chris was totally professional, he took the high road, and for him to continue to remain silent per the situation is given myself so much respect for his character and integrity.
He took a role that alot of men wouldn't of took so props
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc He truly did. My opinion is, he set a good example of how to handle a bad situation. It really could have turned out so much worse. He's got my full respect.
He was silent because will told him a long time ago to chill out on the jokes about his wife after he was talking shit about Jada in 2016.Not only did he talk shit about Jada again he didn't even run the joke by the Oscar committee.Rock was being a selfish ass hole trying to get attention for his comedy tour.But he got embarrassed and got the wrong type of attention getting slapped on national television by a grown man!
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc LLP
After he was slapped and Will Smith was screaming at him, Rock started to say, “I could, ohhh okaay…” and left it there. Yup, the restraint that he showed was almost superhuman…he COULD HAVE, but HE DIDN’T. He is brilliant, quick-minded, funny and incredible, taking the high road in a bad situation always wins.
It was messed up on so many levels. The fact he did it. It wasn’t really a mean joke. The fact he was laughing about the joke 30 seconds before assaulting Chris. They way he seemed so proud of himself as he strutted back to his seat. The fact he was allowed to stay. The fact he was apparently asked to leave and refused. The fact that he apologized to everyone but Chris when he got his award. His family crowing about it online and seeing Will dancing the night away at an after party.I am sure there are more things but those jump out at me at the moment. Chris was amazing in the way he took the slap and tried to defuse the situation and continued. He really rose in my estimation of him at that moment.
Hell Will Smith made fun of bald people in 1991
Hollywood is obviously messed up for several reasons! Standing ovation for Will!?? WTH
Saying Jada should be the next GI Jane is not a "really mean joke." Stop with this stupid narrative. GI Jane is a bad ass character and it's a role that is far too good for Jada.
It’s not like he made jokes about her being the town bicycle or being a soul sucking harpy
I agree with you and you covered everything that bothered me as well. Dancing the night away to his own lame music. He is just an embarrassment. I don't know what's going on in his life but everything that happened was inexcusable and the fact that there's people out there defending it makes me sick.
I quit watching Smith's documentary when he verbally bullied a crew member, I thought it might have been a one off but now I'm not so sure. There's no way to describe the assault on Chris as anything other than grotesque. Hope he's ok.
What documentary?
"It must have been tough for Chris to sit in the back and realise literally nothing happened." That was the really heartbreaking thing.
David & Dana had the most empathetic, even-handed discussion on this topic I'd heard yet. These two guys are the best.
Agree. 100%.
bullshit, david spade is basically defending will
I appreciate the discussion of bullying here. I hadn't thought of that in this situation but I see it now. So important to bring this topic out into the light more and more and more.
@@wolverineiscool7161 What makes you think that?
his acceptance speech reads like the excuses given to every victim of DV: love makes us do crazy things. It’s because I love that I hit. And he gets a standing ovation?! FFS I’m still shook … ffffed up my whole week
Absolutely! Good take on that "apology". Exactly what DV perps say after. And great insight on those who bought into it.
Chris Rock proves his therapist got him to a really good place - he handled it and is still handling it in a most impressive and dignified manner.
Ditto!
I think that was staged for Dave Chapelle as a message of warning...
Seriously? It just happened. He hasn't even processed it yet. And how mouth was swollen.
@@sl4983 Funny how those ascertainment's happen, eh? You know his book hits the shelves next week...and just like that, everyone is interested in Hollywood again.
Same political theater as DC.
Lol
My heart goes out to Chris Rock.
Completely. I still want to cry.
He must have been in total schock mode.
He is a real man.
Steady as can be.
Big love to you Mr. Rock.
This is a spot on discussion about a terrible moment in 'Hollywood' behaviour
Chris Rock really was a rock under terrible circumstances
He was out there alone sadly and what an amazing job he did
You Rock Chris!!
Absolutely Chris you rock your behavior was absolutely splendid
What a lot of morons we have for actors today they havent got the calibre of film stars of yester year
For Smith: 1. Give back your Oscar 2. Ban from attending Oscars for 10 years. 3. Have Chris Rock host the Oscars next year
i dont think his oscar should be toooking back because the award represents the job he did in his acting wicch even i who hates will simp have to admit that was good
it SHOULDNT have ben presented to him on live tv and he shouldnt have gotten his ridiculouse ball like im a victim baby bullsh*t speech
it should have ben mailed to him via ups
everything else u said i 100% agree let rock host next year and 10 years ban on the academy for little willy simp
but the stain the will put on his legacy will be forever remembered ...
i dont even think much movies would let him back into the mix let alone alot of people going and watching it but time wil tell
i love comedians .. they make life just a little easier by making jokes, there take on reality is very funny gets people thru the day
f-u will for even thinking u had the mental audacity to illegally walk up on stage and slap a OLD SKOOOL COMEDIAN LEGEND LIKE CHRIS ROCK f-u all day
No. I want to see Ricky Gervais rip the Academy to pieces over this (and the rest). Give Will's Oscar to Chris.
At the very least. I would add some jail time.
There's obviously something more going on among the 3 of them. The way Will Smith laughed at the joke first & then wife's look reminded him of something else & he felt impelled to act. Like maybe, keep my wife's name out of yr mouth, becoz u talk behind her back. But no way should he slap Chris Rock on stage.
@@nigeltang8738 na ur good. He wouldn't do jail time. Too much $
At the end of the day, Chris Rock's children haven't said a thing. While, Will Smith's children have released snarky remarks. Chris Rock's daughters are as classy as their father.
I was 100 % triggered by Smiths actions - it took me a couple of days to calm down. So horrific to see in that context. Will has been so emasculated by Jada for years and I saw this coming. She is going to be the downfall for Will and the entire family.
If she wasn’t married to him, she would be irrelevant years ago
You know she has been enjoying every minute of it, when she isn't enjoying some other dude that is.
@@palehorse1111 Absolutely - take a look at Candace Ownes remarks on this subject.
@@eruis3139 Yes this is why she has been abusively emasculating him to this point.
WONDER WHY WILLY WENT WACKO?!
This is what I believe happened to Will (I know this because it happened to the friend of my father's uncle's in-law! 😜). Knowing that Jada sleeps around, as she had revealed to him, that she slept with her own child's friend aughh...🤒😰 (sorry that part gives me the hibi jibis 😏🙄), Will's mind is now roaming to imagine who else she had slept with, that she is not telling him. Knowing that Chris and Jada worked together for a long time, away from Will, on Madagascar 1, 2 and 3. Chris becomes more suspect! Will must have cooped up and nursed a conviction in his head that Chris must have also had a piece of his promiscuous wife's pudding. So, when he saw Jada's reaction at the Oscars, he finally convinced himself that they definitely made out! That caused the regrettable outburst!
WHEN YOU HAVE A CHEATING WIFE, EVERY DUDE AROUND YOU BECOMES SUSPICIOUS AND A LITTLE MISUNDERSTANDING CAN TRIGGER A TSUNAMIC HIROSHIMA!
Exactly! That's what I saw, a bully charging at someone and it was disturbing. The standing ovation was the equivalent of enablers who standby and watch a kid get bullied and do nothing cause the bully is popular. Disgraceful.
Ugh yes that was horrible to watch!
The way the Hollywood big shots acted; the way the Academy enabled Will to go on without taking any action are, to me, the most disgusting thing! People with an ounce of decency should boycott Oscar and Hollywood. It's totally screwed up.
The same folks that call words violence, defend will Smith. Its wild times ...
I certainly have a new level of respect for the professionalism Chris Rock displayed.
David Spade is a good friend thanks for standing up for Chris
David's reproach is insanely watered down. Tom Segura said exactly what everyone was thinking and didn't water it down by 99% like David did.
Why are people so obsessed with defending people?? Refuting Will Smith's actions is about calling out right and wrong. Reducing these arguments about bullying/violence/comedy to 'defending your friend' is 180 degrees missing the point. I'm sure Will Smith felt he was 'defending' his wife.
Thank you for speaking out guys.... What Wil did was inexcusable, and how the academy and his fellow actors responded was just freaking bizarre.
Bizarre? Freaking evil!
@@luv2luv720 I would like to know if there were any people who did NOT stand for him?
bunch of spineless scumbags.
It's like if your parents are physically abusive, everyone in the family and the neighbourhood knows about it but they still act as if that's normal.
Spade has such a great voice for podcasts. His voice is definitely 6'2" tall.
"You sweat less than any other fat girl I know"
Thank you both for weighing in on this. Love your straightforward take. I too was a certified pip-squeek ... in 8th grade a guy karate-kicked me in the back--didn't see it coming--couldn't brace for it--real gem of a guy. That shit shapes a person. I did learn to make people laugh as a way to survive. Love both of your comedy styles & bits over the years. Y'all consistently provide joy. Thank you for that. Love this podcast.
You two are so right!! I was abused by an ex over 40 years ago and Will Smith was definitely in the wrong. His stance and demeanor showed my ex-husband to the core!!
I wish it was Dwayne The Rock Johnson making that joke. He'd have put Will Smith's head through the podium
I wish it was 50 Cent
I was thinking exactly that same person. Dwayne the rock instead of Chris Rock, and Bully boy Smith stays seated.
Believe me if it was either one of them this would have NEVER happened!!!!
@@kitty1977 Mike Tyson!
All the stupid people saying this don't realize that Jada would be laughing the loudest at getting any attention from the Rock. And Will would go up stage to fist bump Dwayne to bond with the alpha so her beta wife could try to sleep with him in two years.
If I did that, I'd be sitting in handcuffs. Chris Rock is officially an American Hero to me. Love your wit and wisdom David Spade and Dana Carvey. Laugh on...
As an abuse survivor, I was triggered by the "love makes you do crazy things..." comment more than anything. He should have been escorted out. Period. Pick up your Oscar after the ceremony.
I agree....except forfeit the Oscar.
Yeah no Oscar ever again
I appreciated the insights here on this. No one deserves to be hit, much less on national tv surrounded by their colleagues. I get the academy was caught off guard, we all were, but to let him sit down and continue like he didn’t just severely cross a boundary…. 😨 I always thought Will was a healthy person and so friendly too, this definitely had me rethinking everything I think I know about my favorite actors/actresses.
Chris handled that the best he could. My heart goes out to him. Why didn't anyone check on him moments afterwards?
To Chris, David and Dana...thanks for the laughter through all the years.
Great to hear from ya both. People are even calling Rock the bully, saying he had it coming! Comedy and free speech is in trouble when one of the biggest movie stars in the world commits a crime on a presenter at the academy awards and people applaud him for protecting women!!!
"Protecting"... from a simple sting to the ego? Oh noooooo lol. Half this world is a fragile brittle mental ward.
What happened to security? Everyone acted like this is normal behavior. Slapping, hitting of any kind Is the Lowest Form of Communication ever! Since when is it ok to ever act out like that in society. Chris Rock was hired to be a comedian not get slapped. How is this ok by any means?
Chris not innocent
Up is down. Down is up. Hollywood is a Bizarro World where the guy with words is the bully and the guy with action is the victim. This totally went against the Hollywood push to include more black people in spades (pun(s) intended). The black host of The Oscars got slapped by the black Best Actor winner. Hattie McDaniel and Sidney Portier are spinning in their graves. Aries Spears made a good point: “only n*****s can turn the Oscars into the Source Awards.”
@@thinkingoutloud675 Chris just did his job, Oscar host always roast people, will on the other hand actually committed a crime and as a role model gave such a bad example to people, probably going through some serious mental issues atm because that reaction was so misplaced / way too much
He laughed. Raged. And cried in a 10 min span.
He for sure has some issues.
I felt so bad for Chris. Will needs serious help. You can't just go around hitting people. Hopefully, he'll get the help he desperately needs. So weird how he was laughing about it and then got mad. C'mon we know Chris makes jokes. I guess Will and Jada don't understand since they are obviously sheltered.
Will needs JAIL.
Well said
Will Smith has been in a toxic marriage for a long time and this just shows that it's eating away at him. He needs a separation followed by therapy. But I don't know if his ego allows him to fail at a marriage.
@@moniquemonicat Willard needs to divorce that woman
@Tinker Belle A guy who needs to square the ledger with his wife's extra-curricular activity?
This sums up everything that I felt, thought and reacted to. Will Smith's problems are not an excuse. And, he did 'double down' which only made it worse. My heart hurt for Chris Rock in that horrible moment.
What bothered me most about the moment when Will Smith approached Chris Rock onstage was that he looked very deliberate. He looked like someone who is used to hitting people and perhaps has the attitude that they deserve it.
He didn't get up on that stage with any intention other than hitting Rock. He wasn't looking to grab the mic and bite back with banter, engage in an argument, or demand an apology for his wife.
Then he turned his back on Rock and walked away. That was a display of power, a belief that there would be no accountability. He didn't stay to engage Rock in an argument, didn't expect him to hit Smith back, didn't show any surprise or unsettlement over his actions in the aftermath. People who are not accustomed to employing physical violence might lose their temper and hit someone, but they tend to react when they realize they've done it. They also don't usually get up from their seat, walk up steps and cross a stage to do it in the first place.
Thank you for talking about the other ramifications of that incident. If I had been receiving an award that night, I don't think I could have refrained from condemning Smith's action while I had the stage. I was shocked that so many went on like nothing had happened.
Diminutive people everywhere - male or female - were triggered watching Smith smack Chris Rock. Smith's smug swagger as he was walking away after he smacked Chris shows Smith didn't just do it out of losing his temper: WILL SMITH ENJOYED IT! Bullies unload on their victims it makes them feel better cuz they're sick in the soul.
Narcissistic
It scares me what will does when the cameras aren't rolling, if he will go that far when they r. I'm still realing from watching it as an abuse survivor. It terrifies me how ppl have victim shamed Chris or said it was fake or they side with the only person in the room that broke the law... This is going to be in my mind a long time, because if this can happen to ppl like Chris in this situation. The rest of us... What can we expect going forward?
Chris is top notch class. He will always have me as a fan and friend.
the man handled himself in a really classy way. i was really impressed.
Thanks
We're coming up on almost two weeks since this incident and it's amazing how we're still discussing it. It struck a chord with so many people. Really still a head scratcher.
I love you David, sooooorrry for your friend's assault :( . I know how close you guys are. You and all of the 90's stars who defined the 90s...you guys hold a special place in all of our hearts ❤ . You have such good hearts. You guys should definitely make sure your relationships are strong for life. You guys are a good influence.
Aside from hearing directly from Chris, hearing comments from David and Dana is super insightful. We’ve grown up with you both and have much respect for your input in such an occurrence. Sending you all much love and positivity. Keep up the jokes, freedom of thought and speech. And stay funny 😊
Enjoy the Oscar, Will… you’ll never be nominated again
Coming at it as smaller people watching a larger person hit a smaller person, that made me relate. As a woman who is often well aware of her physical strength compared to men, that's a take I hadn't heard yet. And to point out how nobody came to Chris's aid in the moment. Wow. I'm glad I took time to listen to this take.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings guys. You two have been tops on my list for a very long time.
I also have some sad thoughts about being bullied as a kid.
I am a 72 year old woman who is half Italian and half German. I took alot of crap as a kid that i just never understood. Now, after all these years, i am beginning to talk about my experiences. However, more importantly, i am learning to stay away from toxic people. Like those who are now adults, but still have no clue as to why i act weird around them.
I love you guys!!! You each have brought laughter into my life. Thank you.
You didn't deserve to be bullied, I'm sorry you had to experience that. Hugs.
The fact that it was small, harmless, nice guy Chris Rock, that EVERYONE knows is one of the least threatening comedians, compared to 50 lbs bigger Will Smith tells you everything.
That slap was the sound of the whole Hollywood, tinsel town glamor coming to an end. The Oscar's as a show is dated, antiquated, stick a fork in it, done. Social media has killed the illusion of the fake Hollywood heroes. Everyone, I believe, is sick of their crap.
It wasn't even a slap...it was a sucker punch by a POS coward.
Get rid of the Oscars it is so outdated. Acting is a job and is paid very well for it
I agree with Richie Jacobs
Agree. Will laughed at the joke! Then I bet his wife shot daggers at him for laughing, then he realized that the rest of his evening, or maybe the next few days, wouldn’t be very much fun, then he says to himself, “I guess I better do something.” If he would’ve stayed in his seat and said what he said, it would’ve probably all blown over by now.
Exactly. His wife should probably admit some accountability publicly, and own up to being roasted.
@@pythonflying HAHA yea fuckin right
You don’t know if he registered the joke. Maybe he thought he was talking about her uplifting nature. And then when he realized he was talking about her medical condition combined with the insult Chris Rock said when he hosted the Oscars in 2016 about Jada and it was like “not again..”
I thought Will was gonna take the microphone and give his 2 cents, I had no idea he'd be so out of character and slap Chris.
Out of character? I've now learned several people in the past has talked about Will being a as$!! He had rage!!
@@luv2luv720 he's been acting for 30+ years, and he's never done anything like this.....so yeah out of character, I'm an ass but I don't smack people
@@luv2luv720 Yep. The stories are starting to surface. Some actors that have worked with him are speaking up. And it's NOT flattering. He is described as moody & a "bully".
@@toosieeggers4666 Na that's not true. Show proof of that. He was definitely out of character. That's not really him. Stop it
@@ninobrown3394 have You worked with him or are you a sugar or willy nilly himself or baldy jadea?
I wasn't bullied but what Will Smith still triggered me. That's how bad and terrible that violent act was. Bravo to Chris Rock for holding it well at that time. The Academy handled this incident so poorly and grossly.
One thing that just I have a hard time reconciling is how difficult it would be to remain on stage after being attacked in front of your attacker. How vulnerable for Chris. As a victim of less severe circumstances, I cannot imagine how tough it would be to remain in front of your attacker.
Thank you both for speaking out on this. Comedy is an art much as any other performing art. Comedy is sacred and should be respected as such. This is crossing a line and totally unacceptable.
How can anyone hit Chris Rock and his big smiling face even at a drunk party but the Oscars on stage with tens of hundreds of people watching it on t.v.??
Tens of hundreds 🤣🤣
@@sn2wn Your response was hidden so I had to click on Hide Reply. My thought exactly, Now that I stopped laughing, I had to check the numbers, 16.6m. Not too far off. Now I'd love to know the guestimate of Super Bowl 2022. lol
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I was bullied as well and this definitely triggered me. I had a similar situation without me telling a joke first. Now I wish that I would have. I love Chris Rock and seeing him treated that way really hurt my soul. I really don't think he knew about Jada's alopecia and even if he did is still wouldn't warrant a backhand publicly in front of the whole world. He should have never been allowed to accept that oscar.
Yep..I agree. Smith sucker punched Chris like the coward POS he is.
Sorry you were bullied..I think at some point in our lives, we all were.
Alopecia is a drag, but it's not a debilitating disease, like lupus or fibromyalgia.
thank you for supporting chris rock. i can feel the genuine care that you have for him. i totally identify with being bullied. it stays with you forever.
I was so hurt to see NO ONE from the show go over to Chris Rock and see if he was OK. You could tell he was shocked and hurt as he was forced to just move on with the show. 😔
Should see the videos of Smith at his after party. With the Oscar clutched in one hand and the other flailing about as he sang along to gettin jiggy with it. He was all smiles and I had to wonder about the mental state of this person. I was in awe of the narcissistic, hypocrite, disappointment of a man Will has become and the fact that we as a species really give a crap about this at all. People look to these entertainers for something, consciously or unconsciously and this is the end result when fame, money and a sea of yes men and women live in an illusion. We have severed the connection of our spirits on a massive scale and in this last decade, the chickens are coming home to roost.
imagine how traumatic that experience is for Chris. it was disturbing for us watching it…must’ve been 1000 times worse for Chris. to be on stage with everyone’s attention and having been slapped and then heckled - Chris is a strong man. i would’ve crumbled and cried. the slap alone would’ve sent me on the floor. people get head injuries from slaps - thankfully Chris didn’t fall over and has a strong jaw. but mentally…i hope Chris is ok. he is a class act! love and support for Chris!!
It is heartbreaking that Chris probably thought he had reached a place in his life where he was safe and proud after his rough past and then that happened.
IT's great to have at least some people acknowledge what happened, without being overly emotional. It was an assault, and the healthiest thing we can do as a society is to see this for what it was.
Will was fine until he looked at Jada. What kind of hold do you have over someone that you can make them go from laughter to a punk? That’s a toxic relationship if ever I saw one. Also, the look of pure entitlement on Will’s face as he walked back to his seat was so telling, so elitist. I mean… was this a one off night or were we seeing the REAL Will Smith?
As someone who was disturbed by watching an assault on live TV, I just want to say thanks for using your platform to stick up for Chris Rock, he is a a real professional.
It was very very sad for Chris.
And, almost no matter what, you never get to hit the comedian, plain and simple.
When it happened, and then going back to his seat like nothing. And yelling profanitys. It hit me as someone who was abused 50 yrs. ago. My heart goes out to Chris. Shame on Willing
I didn't love or hate Will Smith before but he seemed like a good guy. Mostly pretty good funny movies. Have never watched a dramatic performance by him so can't comment on him being "Oscar worthy". But I went from not hating him to hating him in that split second. Should never have been allowed to stay and that standing ovation was disgusting. Became a HUGE Chris Rock fan in that same moment.
As Dana said he was 5' tall when he started high school. I was 4'9"! I also had social anxiety (still do) which caused me to avoid going to my locker where all the people were. So all of my books were in my backpack, the weight of which caused me to hunch a bit. So I was basically this short hunchback that was an extremely easy target for bullying. One kid even stole my backpack, burned it and threw it in a swamp. Claimed he was teaching me a lesson for keeping everything in my backpack at once.
Not sure if Dana or David reads these comments but great podcast. I didn’t know you guys had one but completely enjoyable. Loved your movies, thank you guys for the additional thought and conversation!
It feels just like going back to the play ground, the bully goes out as a king, everyone around him… palms in the back… the show goes on…
David, I’ve always thought you were the coolest and funniest guy! I don’t want to make you feel old but I’ve adored you since I was little. Some of my best memories are watching your movies and laughing my ass off. Tommy Boy with my dad. The Emperor’s New Groove with my brother. And just recently the 2nd Transylvania movie with my son. Feels good to hear your voice, especially standing up for Chris Rock. ❤️
He's also funny as all hell on the TV show "Just Shoot Me"- I can laugh through that whole show every time! It's on Hulu.
Shame on Denzel Washington for hugging and checking in on Will Smith, but not even thinking of Chris who was the Victim! Both Will and Denzel loss my respect, time and money!
Ugh yes that was like another slap in the face for Chris, i too lost respect for both of them!!
I loved that Chris said I could.. then caught himself, in said more in that silence than he ever could have said out loud!!! But he could have hit Smith back harder if he did want to use his words!!!
Dana and David I love you two. Hearing your take on the situation made me think about how I felt in school. I totally related to your experience.
Jim Carey said it best Hollyweird is Spineless...Since when does the Villian become the Victim and the Victim become the Villian...
Chris Rock is a comedian and his job is to tell jokes good or bad it's just freaking jokes...Where was Jada's feelings hurt after she has been caught by numerous camera angles laughing at Will's assault on Chris...Her behind wasn't focused on her Alopecia then... It's NOT about the Alopecia it was about WHO had the jokes, if the jokes came from August then it wouldn't have been an issue... Narcissism at it's finest...
Much Love, respect and honor to the way Chris Rock has, is and will continue to handle this situation...🤔
100% Jada is a virulent narcissist. She could not stand the attention being put on Will. She found a way to put it on her. Will was wrong but Jada 100% caused his reaction due to her horrid narcissism.
I am sorry for all whom get bullied in their young lives.
David and Dana you are both brilliant, as well as Chris Rock.
I completely felt as though what Will Smith did was such a cowardly act. I do not understand anyone in the audience giving Will Smith a standing ovation? It was horrific, appalling, uncalled for, and obscene.
Chris Rock was an ultimate professional.
Will Smith was an ultimate crazy eyed person shouting out stuff like you would see in a back alley….not in an ornately packed theater full of beautifully dressed, award winning celebrities. I mean come on…….when is this crap going to stop? I hope in my lifetime as I am pushing into my late 60’s, and having lived through a once moderately polite society at one time.
For all you performers out there on stage, are you kinda scared about people like Will Smith coming after you?
What has become of us? It is just mind boggling to me that no one came up to Chris Rock to make sure he was okay. The cameras just kept rolling. To make matters more dramatic; the cameras were focusing on Will Smith and his wandering Wanda of a wife Jada. Chris Rocks brilliant statement, “Well this was the best moment in television history.” He nailed it, didn’t he?!”
Thank you David Spade and Dana Carvey, for your voice of truth and compassion here. I know it wasn’t easy for you guys to talk about being bullied in your lives. Your voices and wisdom matter especially to a grandmother of a boy that is smaller in stature whom I worry about. I love this boy with all my heart in a world that has changed so much, and that I am not sure I like very much right now. To all the Will Smiths in the world I just have no words, but I would implore you to use your words and not your hands. HANDS ARE NOT FOR HURTING. This was on a refrigerator magnet that was in plain sight front and center whilst my children were growing up. Maybe it should make a comeback for everyone’s fridge👍
Thank you guys for speaking up. We need it!
I know Will Smith talked about his dad beating his mom when he was younger, and him feeling bad about not being able to "protect her." So I saw something in his childhood coming up, especially since Regina Hall had mentioned Jada earlier but go no such treatment. I hope he seeks counseling and comes to realize it was never his job to protect his mother and deals with this legacy of violence from his father. I'm glad Chris Rock , your friend, is okay. There's a moment in the video where he clenches his fist like he is going to hit back, and then he puts his hands behind his back and I thought back to this very podcast where he talked about how he feared he had killed a kid once (and obviously I hope that fear of being angry would never keep him from defending himself if he were in real danger) but I thought it was good that he was more in control of himself and aware enough to diffuse the moment and not turn it into a brawl.
So sorry to think that David and Dana were also victims of violence as children. It's a real stain on our culture.
Given his lack of emotional control, I would've never guessed in a million years that he was the product of a two parent household.
My guess is that it was because everyone has been making fun of his open marriage that they put on display for the world to see. Their kids are messed up and the son wanted to be emancipated at 15. There's a lot going on there.
Hated seeing a person being hit in an unexpected encounter, reminded me of childhood, turned my guts and I felt Chris’s spirit buckle for a moment. Like I hope the demons didn’t sneak back into Chris’s head, he was literally attacked by a bully in front the whole school,…and a few billion viewers. I guess Jada wanted Wills night to be all about her.
Yes. And no one did a damn thing. So disturbing
@@stephaniec0625 in a room full of fakes is a room full of flakes.
Well said guys. What came to my mind immediately after it was the time Chris guested on your podcast. The part when Chris spoke of being bullied but also the time he turned and retaliated with beating that bully badly with a pillowcase with brick thing. And how years later with therapy it allowed him to own his shit and work on that anger problem as it really messed with him for years. As you know and heard. So I’m in no doubt that had he not done the work, he would’ve likely smacked Will right back, being triggered to retaliate in anger. Bravo for that, I admire Chris so much. What a wonderful human he was in the moment, it was crushing to watch him though, knowing it would’ve brought up so much in that moment, exposed to the world and I’d say deeply hurt too, yet stayed calm with a strong composure. I shared that 3 min excerpt of that podcast on social media and of course I got back ‘so being bullied makes it ok to bully Will?’ MWhat the actual… I was such a huge WS fan too, I went off him instantly. He needs to do the work too and own his shit. Chris has a massive supportive team that love him and thank goodness for that.
Those people who misunderstood your your opinion and your post honestly need to take a good look at their own. Honestly, since when does telling a joke qualify as bullying? Kudos to you for not looking at this horrible situation with upside down lenses.
not the same " bully", he got comforted from those hollywood A list elite after he slap someone, and standing ovation 15 mins later. your high school "bully" will get kicked out ,suspended,strip of whatever title or maybe arrested. so Yeah , power and money do get you different treatment.
I'm so glad you guys talked about this from a comedian and friend standpoint. I completely agree with everything! What happened was a bully knowing he would get away with it due to size and status level in Hollywood. If that were Snoop or The Rock, basically anyone his size or bigger, Will Smith would've kept on sitting. Chris Rock handled himself so well! Will Smith's "apology" is faker than his marriage!
What happened to this podcast on RUclips? Can you bring it back on this channel?
We've lost all sense of morality, decency and kindness towards our fellow man. It's reflective of our culture - angry, violent, divided, vengeful.
You guys are my heroes. Great to know you guys have a podcast! And glad this the 1st one I heard. Excellent commentary. Party on Garth and Joe Dirt!
When GI Jada says jump, private Willie says, sir yes sir.
This is comedy heaven David Spade and Dana Carvey!
Exactly Dana. I’m pretty sure there is a no violence disclosure clause. If that slap was “real” no security pulled. I’m super mad, that security did not kick Will Smith out of the event. Will Smith definitely should been kicked out .
2023 Oscars have hired Steve Wilkos from Jerry Spinger to prevent people from rushing the stage
Yes, yes, yes. Thanks for talking about the disgusting behavior of those coddling Will, allowing will to accept his award, and A standing ovation WTF.
Chris Rock’s behavior was my jaw dropping moment because he was in such control, he wanted to verbally snap back but checked himself. Thanks for pointing to Chris’s self restraint, that should be highlighted by more people. What a hero.
Love you guys, this show is GREAT!!! Thanks for mentioning the bully thing, abusive people and bullies are the only thing that triggers me really and that's exactly what this was. Talk about loosing your "good will" from the public. Very Roman.
I bet Chris Rock felt a little alone, considering everyone in the room gave Will Smith a standing ovation by the end of the night. Even comedians like Tiffany Haddish didn't have his back. I just hope he knows how much he's loved. Twitter popped off with pro-Will Smith tweets, but it made me realize most of Chris’ supporters aren't maniacs fighting on Twitter. We are people that recognize a violent act when we see it and appreciate comedy. I know Chris will be okay, just hope he knows that millions love him.
Everyone that gave Will Smith a standing ovation needs to look in the mirror and question themselves. They saw someone get assaulted and applauded the offender. Gross.
I’ve been dying to hear your thoughts…I was super surprised on how triggered I was by that happening… I’m not a celebrity so what I saw which is the most disgusting thing to me, was someone that felt so entitled that it would be even close to being acceptable… was just such a gross narcissistic Activity to me. I love karma though because it helps us all see what am standup guy Chris is, and what a little out of his mind narcissist will is IMO.. I feel very thankful for you guys being such a large voice in Media these days speaking up .. that it wasn’t ok, and I hope that’s what is remembered over a funny~crazy no big deal incident that people laugh about
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Smith is a bonified criminal; he can add that to his credits!!!👎
I was bullied HARD as well. I am a much different guy now 25 yrs later... Will is a bully, that WAS a bully moment. With that, I can imagine so many bullied children/youth all over America being traumatized by the shock of that happening in what's to be a safe, family friendly environment. Thanks for sharing such sincere thoughts about yourselves in this podcast.
Chris Rock, I was not a big fan, but after this incident showed me so much more about who and what you're made of. You are a class act Sir and I applaud you. BRAVO