To all the haters and luddites who complain about the inconvenience of a road trip, let me simplify. If you go on frequent road trips or frequently tow a large trailer, don't get one! For everyone else, it is superior to ICE in every single way! Its actually more convenient than stopping at a gas station. 10 seconds to plug it in at home, and you have 300 miles by morning. A road trip is a bit less convenient, but still not a big deal.
It's all fun and games till the lithium leaks out. We were told to not even try and put out ev fires anymore due to how conductive they are and the extreme poison potential of the lithium
@@Mck499 Either you work for the most inept fire department in the world, or you are lying. I'm a Captain in the FD, and on hazmat. Our FD has no such orders to not put out an ev fire. And who told you lithium has "extreme poison potential?" It doesn't. What department do you work for?
The lithium leaks out? Never realized lithium was a liquid….. 😂 I suppose if gasoline leaks out that’s perfectly fine right ? Because that’s not poisonous ….
I’ve had 4 EVs in 6 years. Model 3 & Y and currently ID4 & Lightning Lariat ER. It’s all in people’s psyche. A small learning curve and some planning go a long way. Have driven cross country from NYC to Oregon and everywhere between never have had major issues charging, running out of range, etc. You provide a practical and realistic account here.
Thank you, sir, for the video. I'm glad to see that you're just like the rest of us -- sometimes things work great and other times, they fail miserably. My Lightning has almost 900 miles on it, and I have not yet made a road trip that would require finding and using a commercial charging station. So, every little bit of advice and road knowledge -- both the good and bad -- is helpful. That said, I don't think I would ever get comfortable driving on the Interstate with the outside mirrors tucked in. 🙂 Thanks, again. Lou from Georgia.
Good stuff James! I'm also an EV owner and agree that SoC is more important than the GOM. Key is to know your usable battery and efficiency, then you know if you can drive fast or slow things down, etc. You did a great job explaining! PS I test drove a Lightning yesterday, absolutely love it! It would be my first ever truck, just need to convince my wife 😂
I just got my Lightning yesterday and am loving it. I can explain why your frustrated with selecting the 100+KW chargers in this point ( 13.33 ) in your video. Once you select the charging speed you want, you don’t press the back button until you look at the filtered list and choose the station you want to navigate to. I think you misunderstood how that feature works as being a permanent filter for all charging stations after that. It just gives you a list to scroll through a choose from. It also shows them on your map to the right so you can see where they are in relation to your current route. Hope that helps.
What's nice about your videos is just the reality of day to day and the new technology. We are all working these screens to understand. Its OK to be frustrated especially with the kids in the car!!! Love your comments about the UI;
Videos like this are talking me out of getting the F-150 lightning that I've got on order. These videos demonstrate the enthusiasm of the owners who are willing to put up with the inconveniences.
Great video James, liked & subscribed. Just traded in my Tesla for a new Lightning and learning the ropes on the UI, commercial charging, etc. Please keep up the great content!
Thanks for the tips. One more question. I want to get a phone holder. The one that you have looks pretty sturdy can you post the link. I’m looking for one now for my lightning. Thanks
You realize the F150 Lightning is almost twice as heavy as your i3, and it's an aero brick compared to the i3, right? 2.1mi/kWh is pretty impressive for a full sized pickup. Our RAV4Prime is around 3mi/kWh in EV mode. My eGolf is more like 4.5-5.0mi/kWh real world mileage, but I drive it kinda heavy footed.
Thanks for the video! I got my Lighning SR Lariat on 12/10. Driving it from NY to Tennessee this July. Plan on stopping overnight in PA and VA on the way.
What a great video to educate potential buyers of these electric money pits. Ford's now losing tens of thousands on every one they sell, since having to drop the prices for this model which wasn't selling. It's now late 2024 and there are plenty of 2022's still on dealer's lots. What was a 90k model can now be bought for 60k or a bit less !
I wonder if having a Tonneau Cover on the bed would reduce "drag" and give you better range, so that you don't have to fold in your mirrors? Just thinking
One of the hidden social differences is that when you stop at a travel center to fill up a gas vehicle, you are expected to move your car to go inside to go to the bathroom and get your drinks and snacks, where in the EV it is socially acceptable to park and go in and spend time in the store while your car is unattended.
This is why I'm keeping my RAV4 Prime for a few years. I'm not sitting at a charging station for over an hour and worrying about faster charging stations not frequent across the nation. I can fill up my Prime and get 600 miles on a fill.
@FreddieFly- Good for you. Just hope you don't get a radiator leaks or an oil sending unit goes out or failed spark plugs or, or, ?? If you are waiting for these vehicles to "guarantee" 300 plus miles AND charge from 0-100% in 10 min.. It ain't there yet. I don't travel like that anymore but if I do, I know I'll be taking a d different vehicle...
Amen! Salisbury MD is loaded with 50s KWs claiming to be fast tried 7 of them and between ICE cars blocking and the car dealers not letting you use them it’s rough. Delmarva only has a handful of DC fast chargers150+ (I think only 2 sets currently) (bonus point there is one MagicDock Tesla station out there!) but it’s still a fast charging Desert. 🌵 that is the frustrating part. 😢
@@JamesKlafehn Thanks for the input - I'm genuinely curious what the cybertruck will look like in production; until then I'm going to stick with my Model y - maybe go cybertruck, maybe 150 lightning.
What are your driving habits like? do you accelerate fast from standstill all the time? Also, what is the current average temperature and terrain where you are now? I have the ER that claims 320 mi, and I'm consistently averaging 2.2 to 2.4 kWh/mi. Granted I'm is South Florida where terrain and temperatures are not an issue. Now, when I first got the truck, I was averaging 1.6 to 1.8, but I was really enjoying the acceleration this truck has, I showed it off as often as I could, but not so much anymore. I have also found out that one pedal drive is not the most efficient on the highway, coasting whenever traffic starts to slow down ahead greatly improved my range on the highway.
Elon Musk was asked why prototype Tesla's have no side view mirrors. He said SV mirrors act as speed brakes. Companies need to make small fold/unfold mirrors that come out of the body. Small mirrors with big views that connect with screen. But they have to work 100% of the time.
LOL, how many times have side mirrors been deleted from cars, and how often do folks say they're terrible? Pretty much every time. I'd rather lose a hair of range to keep a real mirror on the door.
From 80-90% the chargers rates drop so much after 80% is reached, it might be faster to select a slower charger which is closer to charge back up to 80% again. Continue with slow chargers to 80% until you have enough of a charge to make it to your next fast charger.
It's not the chargers, it's the battery. LiIon batteries (in whatever flavor) all do this. 0-80% is fast, and slows down for charging rate quite a bit as the battery warms up.
You fail to mention the single most important factor when estimating range--WIND! Even a 5mph headwind is very significant. A 10 mph headwind vs tailwind is staggering. At highway speeds, you'll get less than 1.5 m/kwh, whereas a tailwind will give you 3.5 or more! In other words, if you're cutting it very close, if you have even a small tailwind, you have nothing to worry about. A headwind, you will not make it. Always look at the wind forecast for a road trip! I haven't tested it, but I'm guessing a 20mph headwind would give less than 1 m/kwh.
Id buy a larger portable generator capable of running a house ac system at 240 volts, that runs off propane, and get 2 full tanks of grill type propane tanks. It should run or the propane or gasoline. Id also take my home charger with me. Hey its a truck, not like you dont have the room. I also think it should be a factory option. The generator is only running to charge the battery. No matter what you do its going to make a carbon footprint. The choice you make decides what size shoe's you'll need.
Thanks for the math! I can never remember it so the visual helps! Love the truck! 🛻 ⚡️ (Hate the tech) Got to remember the SR battery. On board nav is the worst. It had me looping thru neighborhoods. 😂
@@michaelt.9372Thanks for responding. I am in San Antonio Texas. I asked for a quote from Mr. Sparky to install a 50 amp 240v port in my garage. He said the run is over 100ft from my 240v panel which calls for different wire to make sure there is no drop in current. His quote was approximately $4K. I declined their services.
I've had an electric vehicle for 5 years. I love the electric drive, but the current battery tecnology is its biggest downfall. I've replaced batteries twice and those batteries lose range over time and in cold weather. My vehicle is a bicycle, but the experice of ownership is enough to dissuade me from buying a battery electric car until batteries take a quantum leap into the future.
Biggest obstacles to the legacy automakers: 1) Charging infrastructure (duh) 2) Onboard route planning. Until these issues are sorted, the Tesla tax is absolutely worth it.
44kw is only enough to go 90 miles in that truck. So at 70mph you are essentially sacrificing 20 mins of waiting for a charge to drive 1 hr and 15 mins. Also at 2 miles per kw you are also spending more money to go that distance than you would with a 2.7 Ecoboost. Sounds like this situation is a total loss.
@@JamesKlafehn In the video you fast charged and managed to charge 44kw in 19 mins. With the truck having an efficiency of about 2 miles per kw you are getting about 90 miles in that time. Definitely a huge sacrifice of time and money.
@@douglasdangelo6755 144 kw is what I said. Even the tiny Chevy Bolt will charge at 50kw. Efficiency is actually around 2.3 miles/kWh. But that it’s about 3 hours of driving from 100% to around 15%. Show me a wife and 2 kids that don’t need to stop for something within 3 hours and I’ll show you a brand new Ferrari
User interface is the achilles heel of the 21st Century. That, coming from a controls engineer, should alert people to be cautious. Exacerbated by script kiddies constantly changing the way something works, because, well they can! Upgrades that leave you confused as to where something was. Or Apple eliminating your shortcuts such as the flashlight!!! So for automobiles, perhaps it's important to retain buttons for the routine functions such as lights! The only advantage of the huge screen is the readability of the map.
I have lived in TN now for over 20 years. Can't wait to move away when I retire. The increase in summer heat and year round debilitating humidity that has only gotten worse the last 7 or 8 years is enough for me. Also, with so many people moving here coupled with the lack of infrastructure that local politicians fail to address is going to come to a head. Revenue will have to go up. Can you say taxes?
Okay why don't they provide a self-charging vehicle if it's electric it should you know what is rolling around I said charge like the Beatles we have now you know the alternator Vehicles they charge the battery which is included in the vehicle why can't they make one like that
The biggest tip for Lightning owners....buy a second ICE vehicle for your garage if you want to get things done and not have to worry constantly about distance, temperatures, public chargers, etc.
@Greg Hassler Let me see here. You go out and spend $92,000 on a Lightning and you don't have to worry? It actually recently happened to some poor fool! That $890 a month payment should make anyone worry!!!!
I highly disagree. It is an amazing truck. The fact that it easily powers your entire house during an outage alone is amazing. That is a $8000 generator that is noisy. The truck does it seamlessly in silence.
Oh snap ! I just bought one ! Wish I read your comment sooner lol. I had a Bolt for 6 years 110'000 miles, and a f150 4.6 I was using 3 days per month, and was tired of moving my tools from the Bolt to the pickup everytime, and the lack of space in the Bolt. Lightning is expensive but even the small battery will be more than enough for 340+ days of the year.
To all the haters and luddites who complain about the inconvenience of a road trip, let me simplify. If you go on frequent road trips or frequently tow a large trailer, don't get one! For everyone else, it is superior to ICE in every single way! Its actually more convenient than stopping at a gas station. 10 seconds to plug it in at home, and you have 300 miles by morning. A road trip is a bit less convenient, but still not a big deal.
It's all fun and games till the lithium leaks out. We were told to not even try and put out ev fires anymore due to how conductive they are and the extreme poison potential of the lithium
@@Mck499 Either you work for the most inept fire department in the world, or you are lying. I'm a Captain in the FD, and on hazmat. Our FD has no such orders to not put out an ev fire. And who told you lithium has "extreme poison potential?" It doesn't. What department do you work for?
This is exactly what I tell everyone. I got mine a few weeks ago.
The lithium leaks out? Never realized lithium was a liquid….. 😂
I suppose if gasoline leaks out that’s perfectly fine right ?
Because that’s not poisonous ….
@@bottsfinevids4463 I works fer de dumass deputmnt. I cums here to try an gets a reakshun frum peple who reed gud.
I’ve had 4 EVs in 6 years. Model 3 & Y and currently ID4 & Lightning Lariat ER. It’s all in people’s psyche. A small learning curve and some planning go a long way. Have driven cross country from NYC to Oregon and everywhere between never have had major issues charging, running out of range, etc.
You provide a practical and realistic account here.
I’ve had my 2023 CLT Lightening for about a week now and I absolutely LOVE it!!
Thank you, sir, for the video. I'm glad to see that you're just like the rest of us -- sometimes things work great and other times, they fail miserably. My Lightning has almost 900 miles on it, and I have not yet made a road trip that would require finding and using a commercial charging station. So, every little bit of advice and road knowledge -- both the good and bad -- is helpful. That said, I don't think I would ever get comfortable driving on the Interstate with the outside mirrors tucked in. 🙂 Thanks, again. Lou from Georgia.
Just got my 23 Lightning, these tips are great! Thank you
Happy to help! Thanks for watching!
Good stuff James! I'm also an EV owner and agree that SoC is more important than the GOM. Key is to know your usable battery and efficiency, then you know if you can drive fast or slow things down, etc. You did a great job explaining!
PS I test drove a Lightning yesterday, absolutely love it! It would be my first ever truck, just need to convince my wife 😂
We need more infrastructure! Let’s hope we can regulate price gouging
I just got my Lightning yesterday and am loving it.
I can explain why your frustrated with selecting the 100+KW chargers in this point ( 13.33 ) in your video.
Once you select the charging speed you want, you don’t press the back button until you look at the filtered list and choose the station you want to navigate to.
I think you misunderstood how that feature works as being a permanent filter for all charging stations after that. It just gives you a list to scroll through a choose from. It also shows them on your map to the right so you can see where they are in relation to your current route.
Hope that helps.
A gas gauge will read 0 gallons, before you run out of gas also. It's to help prevent getting stranded, but in other words, get to a station soon.
What's nice about your videos is just the reality of day to day and the new technology. We are all working these screens to understand. Its OK to be frustrated especially with the kids in the car!!! Love your comments about the UI;
The problem with the nav system is that you have it set to shortest route. change that to fastest and it will not take you on strange detours
I can try. Its just really hard to find the setting you want. I really dislike it.
Videos like this are talking me out of getting the F-150 lightning that I've got on order. These videos demonstrate the enthusiasm of the owners who are willing to put up with the inconveniences.
Great video James, liked & subscribed. Just traded in my Tesla for a new Lightning and learning the ropes on the UI, commercial charging, etc. Please keep up the great content!
Awesome, thank you!
Tip 1 sell tip 2 sell tip 3 sell tip 4 sell tip 5 sell tip 6 sell. That's all you need to know!
Thanks for the tips. One more question. I want to get a phone holder. The one that you have looks pretty sturdy can you post the link. I’m looking for one now for my lightning. Thanks
You should try 55 mph to see how much more range you will get per kilowatt.
I cruised my bmw i3 at those speeds and get 5.1 miles/kw.
You realize the F150 Lightning is almost twice as heavy as your i3, and it's an aero brick compared to the i3, right? 2.1mi/kWh is pretty impressive for a full sized pickup. Our RAV4Prime is around 3mi/kWh in EV mode. My eGolf is more like 4.5-5.0mi/kWh real world mileage, but I drive it kinda heavy footed.
@@erichtisnado1536 being a brick is all the more reason to drive more slowly.
Like the magnetic phone holder you have showing. Can you tell us the brand/type ? did you get on Amazon?
I agree the screen has inconsistencies to pulling up different things …I like the car play through iPhone better.
Thanks for the video! I got my Lighning SR Lariat on 12/10. Driving it from NY to Tennessee this July. Plan on stopping overnight in PA and VA on the way.
Cool! You live in TN too? I made that same trip twice.
@@JamesKlafehn I live in NY. Visiting some of wife's family in TN this summer
What a great video to educate potential buyers of these electric money pits. Ford's now losing tens of thousands on every one they sell, since having to drop the prices for this model which wasn't selling. It's now late 2024 and there are plenty of 2022's still on dealer's lots. What was a 90k model can now be bought for 60k or a bit less !
Good video, never knew about the mirrors will try that on my next longish ride (don’t worry I won’t tell anyone 😂)
I wonder if having a Tonneau Cover on the bed would reduce "drag" and give you better range, so that you don't have to fold in your mirrors? Just thinking
One of the hidden social differences is that when you stop at a travel center to fill up a gas vehicle, you are expected to move your car to go inside to go to the bathroom and get your drinks and snacks, where in the EV it is socially acceptable to park and go in and spend time in the store while your car is unattended.
Ha, that's the exact same fast charger I used on my first road trip in my Lightning.
This is why I'm keeping my RAV4 Prime for a few years. I'm not sitting at a charging station for over an hour and worrying about faster charging stations not frequent across the nation. I can fill up my Prime and get 600 miles on a fill.
Cool, no one cares
@@expressfashionman89 Jealous much?
@@FreddietheFly of a rav4? You wear a helmet daily don’t you
@@expressfashionman89 Only when I ride my motorcycle. AGATT.
@FreddieFly-
Good for you.
Just hope you don't get a radiator leaks or an oil sending unit goes out or failed spark plugs or, or, ??
If you are waiting for these vehicles to "guarantee" 300 plus miles AND charge from 0-100% in 10 min..
It ain't there yet.
I don't travel like that anymore but if I do, I know I'll be taking a d different vehicle...
Amen! Salisbury MD is loaded with 50s KWs claiming to be fast tried 7 of them and between ICE cars blocking and the car dealers not letting you use them it’s rough. Delmarva only has a handful of DC fast chargers150+ (I think only 2 sets currently) (bonus point there is one MagicDock Tesla station out there!) but it’s still a fast charging Desert. 🌵 that is the frustrating part. 😢
What is the model of the phone charger that you use? Thanks!
Hi when you received a production date how much longer did you have to wait till you got your truck ?
I really like your videos and value your input, so, honestly, would you buy an F150 Lightening again if you had a choice?
100%!!! I love this truck! Its everything I have ever wanted. Ford did a great job! Thanks for watching!
@@JamesKlafehn Thanks for the input - I'm genuinely curious what the cybertruck will look like in production; until then I'm going to stick with my Model y - maybe go cybertruck, maybe 150 lightning.
@@matthewcrist1012 .... If it ever makes it to production. Tesla keeps pushing the goal line back on that thing.
@@erichtisnado1536 indeed - it is going to be interesting if they don't meet production by the end of 2023 like they said. That will be a huge miss.
i have 2022 lighting. they say 230 miles but i’m only getting 175 miles full charge
Me too! It’s very frustrating!
What are your driving habits like? do you accelerate fast from standstill all the time? Also, what is the current average temperature and terrain where you are now? I have the ER that claims 320 mi, and I'm consistently averaging 2.2 to 2.4 kWh/mi. Granted I'm is South Florida where terrain and temperatures are not an issue. Now, when I first got the truck, I was averaging 1.6 to 1.8, but I was really enjoying the acceleration this truck has, I showed it off as often as I could, but not so much anymore. I have also found out that one pedal drive is not the most efficient on the highway, coasting whenever traffic starts to slow down ahead greatly improved my range on the highway.
Ford's new deal with Tesla has me excited
Me too
Elon Musk was asked why prototype Tesla's have no side view mirrors. He said SV mirrors act as speed brakes.
Companies need to make small fold/unfold mirrors that come out of the body. Small mirrors with big views that connect with screen. But they have to work 100% of the time.
LOL, how many times have side mirrors been deleted from cars, and how often do folks say they're terrible? Pretty much every time. I'd rather lose a hair of range to keep a real mirror on the door.
From 80-90% the chargers rates drop so much after 80% is reached, it might be faster to select a slower charger which is closer to charge back up to 80% again. Continue with slow chargers to 80% until you have enough of a charge to make it to your next fast charger.
It's not the chargers, it's the battery. LiIon batteries (in whatever flavor) all do this. 0-80% is fast, and slows down for charging rate quite a bit as the battery warms up.
If you have to fold in your mirrors to lessen the worry of the trip so you can make it. I think I’ll stick with ICE
You fail to mention the single most important factor when estimating range--WIND! Even a 5mph headwind is very significant. A 10 mph headwind vs tailwind is staggering. At highway speeds, you'll get less than 1.5 m/kwh, whereas a tailwind will give you 3.5 or more! In other words, if you're cutting it very close, if you have even a small tailwind, you have nothing to worry about. A headwind, you will not make it. Always look at the wind forecast for a road trip! I haven't tested it, but I'm guessing a 20mph headwind would give less than 1 m/kwh.
So you can drive for 2.5 hours at 65mph? That’s great!
Have you seen the new Tesla energy dashboard from a couple updates ago? Mind blowing the amount of data and how accurate it is now.
Id buy a larger portable generator capable of running a house ac system at 240 volts, that runs off propane, and get 2 full tanks of grill type propane tanks. It should run or the propane or gasoline.
Id also take my home charger with me.
Hey its a truck, not like you dont have the room.
I also think it should be a factory option.
The generator is only running to charge the battery. No matter what you do its going to make a carbon footprint.
The choice you make decides what size shoe's you'll need.
Thanks for the comment. I love this truck. I have used it twice now to power my house when the power has gone out.
Tip Number 1, trade it in and buy truck with an Internal Combustion Engine
Couple days ago I was charging my Lightning while people were scrambling to find available gas stations.
how do you get those free charges? I just purchased my truck last week
They should show up in your Ford Pass app.
Tip one. Convert to combustion
Omgosh I'm so very math impaired. I'd probably be stuck all the time.
Thanks for the math! I can never remember it so the visual helps! Love the truck! 🛻 ⚡️
(Hate the tech)
Got to remember the SR battery. On board nav is the worst. It had me looping thru neighborhoods. 😂
Love the hat
you have to own 2 millions here in Sweden to get a Ford F-150 Lightning
EV enthusiasts, which EV manufacturer includes installing a Level 2 charger at your home when you purchase their EV?
None that I know of. But an electrician would put a 50amp service in for relatively cheap. It’s not a big job.
@@michaelt.9372Thanks for responding. I am in San Antonio Texas. I asked for a quote from Mr. Sparky to install a 50 amp 240v port in my garage. He said the run is over 100ft from my 240v panel which calls for different wire to make sure there is no drop in current. His quote was approximately $4K. I declined their services.
I've had an electric vehicle for 5 years. I love the electric drive, but the current battery tecnology is its biggest downfall. I've replaced batteries twice and those batteries lose range over time and in cold weather. My vehicle is a bicycle, but the experice of ownership is enough to dissuade me from buying a battery electric car until batteries take a quantum leap into the future.
Go Bills!!!
Go Bills!!!
Go Bills
Biggest obstacles to the legacy automakers:
1) Charging infrastructure (duh)
2) Onboard route planning.
Until these issues are sorted, the Tesla tax is absolutely worth it.
44kw is only enough to go 90 miles in that truck. So at 70mph you are essentially sacrificing 20 mins of waiting for a charge to drive 1 hr and 15 mins. Also at 2 miles per kw you are also spending more money to go that distance than you would with a 2.7 Ecoboost. Sounds like this situation is a total loss.
This truck has 130kwh useable. Not sure where you got 44kw from. kw is a measure of power not capacity.
@@JamesKlafehn In the video you fast charged and managed to charge 44kw in 19 mins. With the truck having an efficiency of about 2 miles per kw you are getting about 90 miles in that time. Definitely a huge sacrifice of time and money.
@@douglasdangelo6755 144 kw is what I said. Even the tiny Chevy Bolt will charge at 50kw. Efficiency is actually around 2.3 miles/kWh. But that it’s about 3 hours of driving from 100% to around 15%. Show me a wife and 2 kids that don’t need to stop for something within 3 hours and I’ll show you a brand new Ferrari
User interface is the achilles heel of the 21st Century. That, coming from a controls engineer, should alert people to be cautious.
Exacerbated by script kiddies constantly changing the way something works, because, well they can!
Upgrades that leave you confused as to where something was. Or Apple eliminating your shortcuts such as the flashlight!!!
So for automobiles, perhaps it's important to retain buttons for the routine functions such as lights!
The only advantage of the huge screen is the readability of the map.
Omgosh these videos give me panic attacks. Lol
I don't think folding your mirrors got you the 2.6kwh probably going 65mph.
Clicked away when he said EA was a good station
Rule # 1, dont buy one and buy a real one with no range anxiety 😂😂😂kidding aside its not for everybody
I have a horse.
It runs on carrots 😁
100% eco friendly.
jk 😂
Awesome truck
Terrible charge and nab system
I have lived in TN now for over 20 years. Can't wait to move away when I retire. The increase in summer heat and year round debilitating humidity that has only gotten worse the last 7 or 8 years is enough for me. Also, with so many people moving here coupled with the lack of infrastructure that local politicians fail to address is going to come to a head. Revenue will have to go up. Can you say taxes?
I got rid of my never ever I will buy a electric vehicle
What pain in the ass ! EVs not for me. 🇺🇸😃
Okay why don't they provide a self-charging vehicle if it's electric it should you know what is rolling around I said charge like the Beatles we have now you know the alternator Vehicles they charge the battery which is included in the vehicle why can't they make one like that
A self charging vehicle? It defies the laws of physics. Energy cannot be created or destroyed.
Go Bills :(
The biggest tip for Lightning owners....buy a second ICE vehicle for your garage if you want to get things done and not have to worry constantly about distance, temperatures, public chargers, etc.
Begs the question on why buy an EV to begin with.
Or just learn something new and stop worrying. It's not that difficult.
@Greg Hassler Let me see here. You go out and spend $92,000 on a Lightning and you don't have to worry? It actually recently happened to some poor fool! That $890 a month payment should make anyone worry!!!!
Why not just buy an ICE 150 and do all the things you want and protect the environment.
Tip one; don’t buy one.
Why?
Need only one tip sell it buy an ice
Tip number 1 don’t buy one
I highly disagree. It is an amazing truck. The fact that it easily powers your entire house during an outage alone is amazing. That is a $8000 generator that is noisy. The truck does it seamlessly in silence.
Tip one, don’t buy one.
Oh snap ! I just bought one ! Wish I read your comment sooner lol. I had a Bolt for 6 years 110'000 miles, and a f150 4.6 I was using 3 days per month, and was tired of moving my tools from the Bolt to the pickup everytime, and the lack of space in the Bolt. Lightning is expensive but even the small battery will be more than enough for 340+ days of the year.