Bro loved this. I absolutely love my Fuji cameras and am constantly rebuying them haha. But the Z8 is just a workhorse and in my opinion it’s the best mirrorless camera out rn. I think Nikon and Fuji could learn a lot from eachother. Different tools for sure.
Cam!!! Just wanted to remind you - you're awesome. Congrats on reaching 100k (been following you way before) keep at it, soon you ll add another zero to that number!
A week ago i switched from the X-T3 to the Nikon Z8 with the 50mm F1.8 - damn i love this Camera so much. Its way way better than any new Fujifilm camera. It was alot of money but this powerhouse was the best decision.
You are spot on when you called it a workhorse. That is absolutely the right word, my Z8 is a freaking powerhouse I click events, do videography of all sorts of events im a one army and I cant do this without the Z8 it zips through everything like a breeze
Welcome to the Nikon Family!! You made an awesome purchase on the Z8. In terms of which lenses to get, really depends on what type of shooting you do? For portraits, definitely nikon's 85mm z f1.2 , 50mm f1.2 or 70-200 2.8.. the 70-200 is extremely versatile too for many different photography. Native lenses always pair better in my opinion. You can rent them first to try and compare to your Sony lenses. Lastly, in terms of "soft" pictures, check your settings make sure all soft rendering, smoothness are turned off. Oh, also, you can program any button or wheel to your liking too! 👍 PEACE ✌️!
The Plena is a cheat code , it's insane - a bit situational because it's 135.. but god... my favorit lense of all time! And on 45 MP Z8 / Z9 unbeatable combo.
At 10.22 ypu spoke about iso change,you can actually configure your lens ring to change iso/aperture /exposure compensation. You can also set the camera to make changes with just press of the button no need of holding it down to make those changes . Custom setting F6 should be set to on,with that you don't have to hold down the button just press and make changes.
I also switched to Nikon from Fuji last week. Got the z8 and 180-600, 28-75 2.8. I was tired of all the out focus shots with eye tracking, even on a static subject. Since I mainly shoot wildlife, Nikon has more “affordable” telephoto lenses. So far, the z8 is AMAZING!
Some things: - Nikon raw are more "raw" than Sony and Canon ones. Less sharpening and less noise reduction baked in raws. Nikon tend to expose to the right, some people like this (you always can recover highlights when not clipped), some people don't like this and kept always the cameras at minus 1/3 or something exposure. - What do you think about Nikon vs Sony differences? I'm interested in both but I can afford only one system. - You could try the Boryoza AF adapter for your Fuji lenses on the Nikon body
Thanks for the tips man, I will have to keep this in mind shooting with the Z8.I heard about that adapter, but then I will have to shoot DX mode and that's not something I want to do, not on the z8. And when it comes to the sony and nikon difference. To me it's just workflow and lens options. You can't beat sonys lens selection, native and third party.
@Iamtongue thanks for the answer. Lens selection and size are the reasons I'm leaning more to Sony than Nikon. But overall Nikon is cheaper (unless you want the ultra expensive glass) and seems more reliable than Sony.
@iamtongue Hey Man congrats on the move, I used the xh2s and the auto focus wasn't what I intended. Move to the Z8 and the difference is crazy. Fuji doesn't like updates idk why. But Your in the right place with the Nikon Z8. Also to change the function where you don't need to hold the buttons to change iso, drive modes etc. go to the custom menu settings > F Controls > F6 Release button to use dial > turn on. Now you'll just have to press whatever button and make your changes. Easier where to exit the mode just tap the shutter button being that's the Most muscle memory button we use 99% of the time. Congrats and be safe
I just got the Z50 mark2 and the focus box sticks on birds like Velcro even switching to the eye. I love all brands of cameras except one. My first Nikon and I got the 2 zoom kit and with the same processor as the big Z cameras It's a very affordable Nikon and I am so glad I pulled the trigger. My Fuji, Canon, Pentax and Olympus can all take a well deserved break for a while.
To be honest, you were taking great portrait shots even with not so good AF and even with cheaper 3rd party lenses. The Z8 should indeed be a great one. But, I'd switch or invest in Z8 only if I shoot action wildlife or sports photography for living. Because, Z8 has the better chances of having more frames in focus. For portraiture, street and landscape Fuji should just be plenty enough to bring out enough joy and inspire others to pick up a camera. Of course, the Z8 system will strengthen your arms better than Fujifilm if you carry on hills like that... 😂
Every now and then I get frustrated with my X-T5's autofocus, especially with bird photography, but for the most part it works for me. Then I watch a video comparing Fuji to Sony or Nikon, and I'm convinced I need to switch systems. Then I come back to reality and remind myself I only do this for fun and I don't need to spend thousands more on a different setup...yet lol.
Congrats on the find! I've been looking at the Z8 for a year, but still absolutely love my A7RV & A7Cii. A few things, I don't feel like the Z8 images are "softer" than Sony's. They are just as or even sharper. Actually, you are missing focus by a "literal" hair (many reports of back or front focusing instead of eye). Lastly, have you used Sony tracking AF yet (works in both photos & videos)? It's super sticky and many have compared it to Nikon's 3D. I have it on a custom button (I'll link the video if I can find it. Most don't use it because Sony as it hidden in the custom buttons).
Yea I have the sony a7cii, I know how sticky that thing is. It feels like the Z8 is better in some instances. I would still love to try the sony a7rv one day.
I watched your videos when I had xt3, now I own nikon z6. The only thing I really hated and switched back to nikon is AFC. It was frustrating experience. Nikon z6 is not really amazingly good in AFC but it’s better and more reliable than fujifilm xt3. I would like to get nikon z6iii. It has amazing autofocus. Just what I need.
I was waiting for this video! I've recently switched to a full Nikon setup (Z8 and ZF) I really enjoy using the cameras. They are so much easier to use than the Fuji's. Still working out how to edit the raw files. I'm not crazy about the greens or blues out the box. Fuji was just so easy in that regard.
Awesome video as always! Been a while since I commented on one of your videos but I've been busy.. Traded all my fuji gear in and ended up going full Nikon. I went with the z8, awesome z24-120 f4, z50mm f1.8 and awesome z180-600mm. To keep that fuji itch alive also I picked up the zf. I couldn't be happier with the performance especially af. Even the jpegs are not bad and there is some tweaking to be done if you want. Enjoy sir!
The only question I would have is whether you feel like your images are far better than they were before. Now, behind the scenes I'm sure there are missed shots we don't know about due to AF issues. So, as a professional photographer that makes a camera like the Z8 invaluable for you. But, that body and the lenses are way too expensive for an amateur photographer, at least that's true for me. Would I love to own a FF camera and lenses? Sure. But, as an amateur I don't really need it and my budget just isn't up there. Having said all of that, it's going to be fun to see your use of the Z8 here! Kasey(CC) has been using a Z6III and really loving it. Of course, that's all video work. But, I do like the image he gets with it. Have fun and looking forward to your work with that beast!!
Image quality is probably on the bottom of the important list for photographers these days. They are all pretty darn excellent. Lens selection, ergos, and video hybrid features are way more important.
Z8 is a beast and well priced!. I have the 35mm 1.4, It's cheap, sharp enough and the bokeh reminds me of vintage lenses. To be honest no need to invest in anymore Nikon lenses when you have Sony glasses. All of my Sony glasses works well on my Zf and Z8!
I have been using nikon d750 for a while. Recently bought the z8. I have godox v860ii which works fine in d750. When i tried it at z8 for some reason it only fires in manual mode and not TTL. When i look at the camera screen, TTL shows so no loose connection. Then i tried the godox trigger and TTL works fine there. Anyone any idea?
AF will be slightly better with native Z lenses. Tracking sticks like glue and I rarely ever hit an eyelash instead of an eyeball. It's crazy that the sensor readout on the Z8 is about 3X faster than the stacked XH2s APSC sensor. The Z6III has about the same readout as the XH2s but FF 24mp. Wait until Nikon drops that half rolling shutter/half global shutter sensor they patented recently.
I just got my Nikon ZF. As a new Nikon shooter, I'm still figuring out the controls and menus. My usual presets aren't looking great on the ZF files either. The camera feels good in hand, and the image quality is nice. But if I can't get the colors right, I might have to return it.
I have the same problem when it comes to the color. It's a bit different... But I may have to make a video on how Fuji shooters can get Fuji colors on a nikon.
Something you might try is to change the Picture Profile from Standard to Neutral or Flat? I find the Standard is too contrast-y to apply presets on but the Flat profile solves the issue.
@@nunucheong I’ve tried the Nikon profiles, but they actually worsen the orange and green skin tones. Adobe Standard is better since it provided the least contrast and saturation. I’ve also tried the Leica, Lumix, and Sony presets, but they over-saturate skin tones and greens, even after careful adjustments. This is weird because I used these presets on a rented Z6 and they worked fine. I’m still working on it, but I need a consistent look for my event photography.
Former Fuji fanboy also. I sold My Xpro3 & XT3 for a Z6 and now am using the Zf. I left Fuji for the reasons you mentioned, poor autofocus, no firmware updates etc. I had the same issues with the Nikon controls such as the ISO on the Z6 but the Zf is much better although Fuji is still better in this regard. For me the low light capabilities are the main reason I like it better as I am using it for concert photography. As for the lenses I have owned the Fuji 16-55 2.8, 50-140 and the new versions of the 23 1.4 and 35 1.4 Fuji lenses and the Nikon 50 1.8s is better than all of them. I have usually preferred 85 as a portrait focal length, I used the 56 1.2 Fuji for that but I think the Nikon is so good that I just move closer. It doesn't have the character of the 56 but it is almost an optically perfect lens.
Nikon has a really good feature which is "Highlight-Weighted Metering". It's a feature that I think should be on every digital camera. No need highlight warning or use other metering mode at all. You can always brings back the shadow as the files are really good.
@@ufukkiblat yeah good point. I would caution against using for nighttime street photography. I was using it last weekend and neon signs killed the shot because everything else was so underexposed (even lifting exposure and shadows to the max in post didn’t salvage the file). But this was my error and not the cameras.
Native lenses are a must. Stick with the S line as you have 46mpx to your disposal. If budget allows the 2.8 f zoom lenses are magical. I am not sure about the true color rendering on the Sony. I can not compare but if you get a chance just try first. If you can not see any difference stick with what you have :)
You should try the Boryoza AF adapter for your Fuji lenses on the Nikon body, you can shoot in either FX or DX. As for colors and filmsimulations > DxO FilmPack 7
Z8 is great workhorse. I like my Zf but the moment I take x-t5 in hand everything clicks. I moved from Canon R6 to X-T5 with no regrets. Sure AF and picture quality is better on Nikon (and was great on Canon). I stay with Fujifilm, becouse its more fun.
From my experience, Nikon's Z lenses will perform better than adapted lenses. For me there was a noticeable improvement between using an older Nikon F lens with the FTZ adapter vs a native Z lens. I assume that difference would be similar with other third-party lenses.... or maybe it's the focus motor design of Nikon's older lenses.
The Z8 is so good that two of the three moderators on DP review Fuji forum use it as their primary camera. Yes you read that correctly that they don’t actually regularly use Fuji cameras.
Sounds great, i always wanted to get the Nikon ZF but i hated the over priced Nikon lenses especially as they don’t have aperture rings. But not anymore thanks to megadap! Mate that’s a serious game changer as most of the newer Sony Lenses now include an aperture ring. My Fuji muscle memory won’t require recalibration.
Thx for honest review 👍 Do You have possibility to make 1:1 compare of native Fujifilm Film Simulations vs Cobalt Image Fujifilm film profiles on Z8 raw files?
Great, I would love to see such comparison, because right now only thing what keeps me in Fuji system are Film Simulations and overall Fuji color science. If I could mimic Fujifilm Film sims with cobalt image film profiles, there is nothing what would hold me back to switching to Nikon Z system..
I've owned many Fuji cameras through the years and recently bought the Cobalt Image CaptureOne Fujifilm profiles for my Z8. I was pretty disappointed. They might be more accurate in Lightroom though.
@@dsalzr uhh.. Very disappointing to hear that 😑 Can You tell me what was Your main complain? Cobakr images weren't accurate mimicking Fuji Film Simulations?
@@fotokozlowskiI had the same experience, I don’t fine the cobalt profiles to be a replacement. I really liked classic chrome and Astia on my Fuji but can’t get it to feel good when applying it to Nikon files. With that said though I think the files are generally pretty easy to edit
I personally would advise renting a native Nikon 50mm lens, that way you can check if indeed the AF speed is improved (and potentially other advantages, like less vignetting)
There is a difference between subject detection and autofocus speed. I've owned several nikon lenses. The body is the one dictating subject detection and the lens with it's respective af motor drives the lens element to focus. Of all lenses I've owned, the fastest focusing and the one who keeps up really well is 70-200 f2.8 s. That is blazingly fast and i rarely missed focus on it when set on proper shutter speed. The one I'd say least reliable specially on moving subject specially in events like wedding is 85mm 1.8. don't even try shooting with it with the people moving on the aisles during the procession and you'd risk missing some shots where it could be soft because the lens could not keep up
This is why Sony is getting more appealing to me-the 85mm f1.4 mk ii they just released is blazing fast…Sony seems to get that speed is good no matter the lens. I really would love to have an 85mm-equivalent prime that rips. On Fuji, I probably should have kept the Viltrox 56mm, it was a pretty fast lens but the Fuji 56 just kills it in image quality. It is also a bit sluggish in terms of tracking but the accuracy is great.
So cool that you got into Nikon 🙌 I’m also a Fujifilm user (for photography), but am looking forward to Nikon bringing awesome RED RAW video to the masses 😎 So have been very curious of their system.
Ask Matt Irwin, or one of your favorite Nikon people about performance of native lenses vs megadap adapters.This is great to hear! I might switch as well.
You know the Z8 has some type of soft setting thing in the menu. I don’t own one & maybe it is just for face/people. Check the manual or Nikon’s website. When the Z8 was released, it was a feature the Z9 didn’t have at the time. If you’re happy with the Sony lenses & don’t need any faster focus, why add unless you just like to. Sounds a little like new toy infatuation saying it’s Greek’s awesome but a little soft & wondering about faster focus. I see wildlife photos fro Sony Canon & Nikon. Don’t get me wrong, some Nikon are super sharp but as a Nikon user I would say they were taken at pretty close distance for wildlife. Canon is better as the distance gets greater & I think nobody beats Sony as the distance lengthens & also in lower light. Being vested in Nikon lenses, I hope I’m wrong but doubt it very much.
This is actually the same thing that happens when a Fuji shooter goest to Canon, Sony, Nikon or even a Leica Q. I shot Fuji for a while. I still wonder why.
Damn that price of your used Z8 is as hot like your intro 🔥 I have thought about getting the Z8 the past few weeks, but have resisted the urge to do an impulse buy for now :D I watched the videos from Shootswithcoops yesterday and compared to his video AF footage with Megadapt x Sony lenses it was quite decent for video. But I have the impression, that my 28mm 2.8 and 40mm f2 are a bit smoother in video AF, but I might be wrong. I heard that the Nikon AF shines with lenses of the Silver line up. If I remember correctly Taylor Jackson did some videos on that. Great video and happy for you getting the Z8 at such a price! Now after using Sony and Nikon AF system, the only child left is Canon :D
Fuji : User base: 50% Poser , 30% Starting Professional , 20% Professional Photographers. Sony : Third party lens Collector, Working class Photographer. Those who prefer usabilty/ reliability than aesthetic 😂 Nikon: Veteran Photographer, has been on the game before our parents get married Canon: Sorry. I shoot only weddings 🤭 Lumix/Panasonic: The silent kid on the room
Problem with Nikon is to get really good AF tracking you have to spend the bucks on a higher end body. I have fuji if someone really needs tracking it’s not great. But Canon does great job at giving consumers great lower end bodies with great tracking….that way you can spend the money on great glass. People complain they don’t have enough 3rd party glass but man what they have is really great stuff.
@ I do mostly bird photography….zf just doesn’t cut it for that kind of tracking. That’s why canon does a great pricing for that level of tracking like the r7, r10 and r8.
@@Iamtongue even the R8 when it first came out, a budget full frame its tracking was already better than z8. The R7 is also very good….check out people who shoot mostly birds. I find tracking birds is a tougher test. You see what canon does is entice people with great lower end bodies to get them into the system.
Great video Tung - try the Z 50 1.4 it is a lot like the Fuji 35 1.4 (character) but all of the Z glass is really nice. The 40mm f2 is also fantastic. i love my Zf and am in no hurry to change it - 24 mega pickles is perfect for like 90% of things i do. I am excited for the next generation of Nikon cameras or whenever they integrate RED technology, hopefully in the Z9 II or Z8 II. BTW i sold my xt4 + 33 this weekend and for the first time in over 6 years I have no Fuji's
Thanks man, I really want the 50mm F1.4 Z but I dont know would be a wasted purchase now that I haev the ezt adapter with the sony 50mm f1.4 gm. I will have to figure this out haha...
I like my XH1 but if the Nikon is most comparable ill take it. I hear the AF isnt as good as Sony ir Canon or Panasonic, but honestly, Anthony better than Fuji is good. The newest Fujis cant even compete with a 2018 A7iii
Awesome video as always. Cheers. Fuji really needs to up their game in terms of video features, AF and stabilization. They have a lot of potential but horrible software and firmware. Nikon and Canon are years ahead in these terms. Coming from someone who has used XE4 with 35mmf2, even 5-6 years old Sony and Canon can beat modern Fuji in terms of AF, stabilization, etc.
Totally agree. I am beginning to see more of the technological advancements done with other camera systems now, and because of that Fuji just feels like a temu brand camera now. Build quality and software development.
I am waiting for Lumix S2R and I am out of X system. It's a good name for a system 'ex'. 9 years of investing in gear, down the drain. An All I got i big 'F' from Fuji.
Oh Toung you have come of age. Cut your teeth with Fujifilm. Now you are grown you realise. It's not the tool. It's you. Use the tools you need. Just keep the fire burning brother ❤
Any lens you use on the Fuji, or Sony... Nikon has better equals. But if your AF lenses work from another manufacturer, then why change. I will say I am an OEM guy and therefore only use Nikon on Nikon. But many have had success like you. Nikon lenses the "S Line" will AF better, but if you are good... then I would not change.
The Z8 is literally the same size as an old Canon 5Dmkiv and nearly twice the size of an X100v. Enjoy carrying that around your neck all day. Totally different user base to the Fujifilm X.
I wasn't a big fan of the Nikon 1.4 lenses tbh. They're good but..vintage design so they are kinda soft and don't control flaring well so their contrast is meh
I switched from a pair of Fujifilm XT5 to Nikon Z8, ZF as my wedding kit. Yes the autofocus is definitely an upgrade vs the Fujifilm. And if one is not chasing the lightweight and compact. I do prefer the ergonomics on the Nikon bodies. Got a couple friends using the ETZ and they all have good things to say. However native Z lenses will take advantage of the diameter and flange distance of the Z mount. In terms of the 35mm f/1.4 Z and 50mm f/1.4 Z, I would skip them, the CA on them are kinda bad wide open. I personally went with the 35 f/1.8S and 50 f/1.8S, very happy with them. Anything I miss from the Fujifilm…yes, I do miss the film simulations when I am not using my cameras for work.
@ hopefully we will see the Nikon imaging cloud support comes to the Z8 via firmware soon. So we can use the creators picture control or create our own recipes and download to our body.
When I own the z8 boy oh boy I loved/hate it 😂 For some reason every time I switch from photo to video even when I hit the settings right my video specs kept changing and I had no idea why. And their menu was far worse than Sony. They have things in places I did not understand why. Anyways, still love the end results, but it was frustrating for sure. And I just said it. Maybe Nikon is not for me. Definitely want to buy it again maybe for the 3rd time 😂
You do know, Nikon use different menus when in photo mode and in video mode, so when you switch to video mode, you go back to the last video mode you used. it does not use the settings you just made in photo mode.
Bro loved this. I absolutely love my Fuji cameras and am constantly rebuying them haha. But the Z8 is just a workhorse and in my opinion it’s the best mirrorless camera out rn. I think Nikon and Fuji could learn a lot from eachother. Different tools for sure.
Cam!!! Just wanted to remind you - you're awesome. Congrats on reaching 100k (been following you way before) keep at it, soon you ll add another zero to that number!
I would love sigma starts to make their lenses for z mount.
totally agree
A week ago i switched from the X-T3 to the Nikon Z8 with the 50mm F1.8 - damn i love this Camera so much. Its way way better than any new Fujifilm camera. It was alot of money but this powerhouse was the best decision.
It's incredible! It's becoming one of my fav camreas :)
Get the 24-120 f4. Or maybe just start with the 50 1.8S.
@@FramesTM yes 50mm 1.8 s line over the 1.4
You are spot on when you called it a workhorse. That is absolutely the right word, my Z8 is a freaking powerhouse I click events, do videography of all sorts of events im a one army and I cant do this without the Z8 it zips through everything like a breeze
Look at you climbing the Cool guy mountain. 💪🏼
Just a chill guy who likes to climb mountains 😊
he looked like he was huffing and puffing after
Welcome to the Nikon Family!! You made an awesome purchase on the Z8. In terms of which lenses to get, really depends on what type of shooting you do? For portraits, definitely nikon's 85mm z f1.2 , 50mm f1.2 or 70-200 2.8.. the 70-200 is extremely versatile too for many different photography. Native lenses always pair better in my opinion. You can rent them first to try and compare to your Sony lenses.
Lastly, in terms of "soft" pictures, check your settings make sure all soft rendering, smoothness are turned off. Oh, also, you can program any button or wheel to your liking too! 👍
PEACE ✌️!
Thank you
Killin it my man. Yes, the Z8 absolutely rocks. The Z8 is fantastic - but man have you shot with the Plena yet? IT IS NUTS!!!!!
The Plena is a lens i want to try out, but it's way out of the budget at the moment.. haha one day.
The Plena is a cheat code , it's insane - a bit situational because it's 135.. but god... my favorit lense of all time!
And on 45 MP Z8 / Z9 unbeatable combo.
At 10.22 ypu spoke about iso change,you can actually configure your lens ring to change iso/aperture /exposure compensation.
You can also set the camera to make changes with just press of the button no need of holding it down to make those changes . Custom setting F6 should be set to on,with that you don't have to hold down the button just press and make changes.
I also switched to Nikon from Fuji last week. Got the z8 and 180-600, 28-75 2.8. I was tired of all the out focus shots with eye tracking, even on a static subject. Since I mainly shoot wildlife, Nikon has more “affordable” telephoto lenses. So far, the z8 is AMAZING!
I have the Z8 and a Zf, dream combo of cameras for me. Workhorse in the Z8, passion camera in the Zf. None of the other brands have a combo like it.
That sounds like an awesome combo! I wnat a zf ahah
I shoot both. Love Fuji and love Nikon!
Woohoo!
Me too 😊 love both systems. I got the Zf and still got my trusted D700
Some things:
- Nikon raw are more "raw" than Sony and Canon ones. Less sharpening and less noise reduction baked in raws. Nikon tend to expose to the right, some people like this (you always can recover highlights when not clipped), some people don't like this and kept always the cameras at minus 1/3 or something exposure.
- What do you think about Nikon vs Sony differences? I'm interested in both but I can afford only one system.
- You could try the Boryoza AF adapter for your Fuji lenses on the Nikon body
Thanks for the tips man, I will have to keep this in mind shooting with the Z8.I heard about that adapter, but then I will have to shoot DX mode and that's not something I want to do, not on the z8.
And when it comes to the sony and nikon difference. To me it's just workflow and lens options. You can't beat sonys lens selection, native and third party.
@Iamtongue thanks for the answer. Lens selection and size are the reasons I'm leaning more to Sony than Nikon. But overall Nikon is cheaper (unless you want the ultra expensive glass) and seems more reliable than Sony.
@iamtongue
Hey Man congrats on the move, I used the xh2s and the auto focus wasn't what I intended. Move to the Z8 and the difference is crazy. Fuji doesn't like updates idk why. But Your in the right place with the Nikon Z8. Also to change the function where you don't need to hold the buttons to change iso, drive modes etc. go to the custom menu settings > F Controls > F6 Release button to use dial > turn on. Now you'll just have to press whatever button and make your changes. Easier where to exit the mode just tap the shutter button being that's the Most muscle memory button we use 99% of the time. Congrats and be safe
Thanks for the suggestion. I will look into it.
Seems AF is really important to you so glad you finally found something you're happy with
hell ya buddy 🤟
I just got the Z50 mark2 and the focus box sticks on birds like Velcro even switching to the eye. I love all brands of cameras except one. My first Nikon and I got the 2 zoom kit and with the same processor as the big Z cameras It's a very affordable Nikon and I am so glad I pulled the trigger. My Fuji, Canon, Pentax and Olympus can all take a well deserved break for a while.
To be honest, you were taking great portrait shots even with not so good AF and even with cheaper 3rd party lenses. The Z8 should indeed be a great one. But, I'd switch or invest in Z8 only if I shoot action wildlife or sports photography for living. Because, Z8 has the better chances of having more frames in focus.
For portraiture, street and landscape Fuji should just be plenty enough to bring out enough joy and inspire others to pick up a camera.
Of course, the Z8 system will strengthen your arms better than Fujifilm if you carry on hills like that... 😂
Every now and then I get frustrated with my X-T5's autofocus, especially with bird photography, but for the most part it works for me. Then I watch a video comparing Fuji to Sony or Nikon, and I'm convinced I need to switch systems. Then I come back to reality and remind myself I only do this for fun and I don't need to spend thousands more on a different setup...yet lol.
@@aaronclinesmith2286 that’s a healthy train of thought. You’re a better man than I am haha
@@Iamtongue Nah, if I relied on it for income, I'd probably be right there with you.
Congrats on the find! I've been looking at the Z8 for a year, but still absolutely love my A7RV & A7Cii. A few things, I don't feel like the Z8 images are "softer" than Sony's. They are just as or even sharper. Actually, you are missing focus by a "literal" hair (many reports of back or front focusing instead of eye). Lastly, have you used Sony tracking AF yet (works in both photos & videos)? It's super sticky and many have compared it to Nikon's 3D. I have it on a custom button (I'll link the video if I can find it. Most don't use it because Sony as it hidden in the custom buttons).
Yea I have the sony a7cii, I know how sticky that thing is. It feels like the Z8 is better in some instances. I would still love to try the sony a7rv one day.
I watched your videos when I had xt3, now I own nikon z6. The only thing I really hated and switched back to nikon is AFC. It was frustrating experience. Nikon z6 is not really amazingly good in AFC but it’s better and more reliable than fujifilm xt3. I would like to get nikon z6iii. It has amazing autofocus. Just what I need.
Please get the 1.8 variants of the Z lenses
Wait you’re using the sigma 24-70mm does the lens correction work with the adapter?
Definitely looking to getting a Nikon, I was looking at the z6iii but just want a little more mp. Congrats on the z8!
could I ask the image at 4:30 is sooc or post-processed, its color looks great, if it is sooc, could it be setup on z6III or zf?
Keep your 50 1.4 but get the 35 1.4Z. Really nice addition I got last week. Video will be better with Z lenses.
I sold 3 leicas and two fuji for the Nikon z8.z6iii and zf and all Nikon lenses for my new system. Happy I am back to
thats insane haha
@@Iamtongue but I am insane hahaha love the new toys
I was waiting for this video! I've recently switched to a full Nikon setup (Z8 and ZF) I really enjoy using the cameras. They are so much easier to use than the Fuji's. Still working out how to edit the raw files. I'm not crazy about the greens or blues out the box. Fuji was just so easy in that regard.
Ya i know what you mean, the colors are a little weird to work.
Awesome video as always! Been a while since I commented on one of your videos but I've been busy.. Traded all my fuji gear in and ended up going full Nikon. I went with the z8, awesome z24-120 f4, z50mm f1.8 and awesome z180-600mm. To keep that fuji itch alive also I picked up the zf. I couldn't be happier with the performance especially af. Even the jpegs are not bad and there is some tweaking to be done if you want. Enjoy sir!
Thank you sir, and you made a good decision :)
The only question I would have is whether you feel like your images are far better than they were before. Now, behind the scenes I'm sure there are missed shots we don't know about due to AF issues. So, as a professional photographer that makes a camera like the Z8 invaluable for you. But, that body and the lenses are way too expensive for an amateur photographer, at least that's true for me. Would I love to own a FF camera and lenses? Sure. But, as an amateur I don't really need it and my budget just isn't up there. Having said all of that, it's going to be fun to see your use of the Z8 here! Kasey(CC) has been using a Z6III and really loving it. Of course, that's all video work. But, I do like the image he gets with it. Have fun and looking forward to your work with that beast!!
Image quality is probably on the bottom of the important list for photographers these days. They are all pretty darn excellent. Lens selection, ergos, and video hybrid features are way more important.
Awesome can't wait to see what you do with this beast.
Z8 is a beast and well priced!. I have the 35mm 1.4, It's cheap, sharp enough and the bokeh reminds me of vintage lenses. To be honest no need to invest in anymore Nikon lenses when you have Sony glasses. All of my Sony glasses works well on my Zf and Z8!
I have been using nikon d750 for a while. Recently bought the z8. I have godox v860ii which works fine in d750. When i tried it at z8 for some reason it only fires in manual mode and not TTL. When i look at the camera screen, TTL shows so no loose connection. Then i tried the godox trigger and TTL works fine there. Anyone any idea?
AF will be slightly better with native Z lenses. Tracking sticks like glue and I rarely ever hit an eyelash instead of an eyeball. It's crazy that the sensor readout on the Z8 is about 3X faster than the stacked XH2s APSC sensor. The Z6III has about the same readout as the XH2s but FF 24mp. Wait until Nikon drops that half rolling shutter/half global shutter sensor they patented recently.
Thag would be insane wth
I love my Z8! Best purchase I have made.
I just got my Nikon ZF. As a new Nikon shooter, I'm still figuring out the controls and menus. My usual presets aren't looking great on the ZF files either.
The camera feels good in hand, and the image quality is nice. But if I can't get the colors right, I might have to return it.
I have the same problem when it comes to the color. It's a bit different... But I may have to make a video on how Fuji shooters can get Fuji colors on a nikon.
Something you might try is to change the Picture Profile from Standard to Neutral or Flat? I find the Standard is too contrast-y to apply presets on but the Flat profile solves the issue.
@@nunucheong I’ve tried the Nikon profiles, but they actually worsen the orange and green skin tones. Adobe Standard is better since it provided the least contrast and saturation.
I’ve also tried the Leica, Lumix, and Sony presets, but they over-saturate skin tones and greens, even after careful adjustments. This is weird because I used these presets on a rented Z6 and they worked fine.
I’m still working on it, but I need a consistent look for my event photography.
@@AbdonPhirathon ah all the best in your search
Former Fuji fanboy also. I sold My Xpro3 & XT3 for a Z6 and now am using the Zf. I left Fuji for the reasons you mentioned, poor autofocus, no firmware updates etc. I had the same issues with the Nikon controls such as the ISO on the Z6 but the Zf is much better although Fuji is still better in this regard. For me the low light capabilities are the main reason I like it better as I am using it for concert photography. As for the lenses I have owned the Fuji 16-55 2.8, 50-140 and the new versions of the 23 1.4 and 35 1.4 Fuji lenses and the Nikon 50 1.8s is better than all of them. I have usually preferred 85 as a portrait focal length, I used the 56 1.2 Fuji for that but I think the Nikon is so good that I just move closer. It doesn't have the character of the 56 but it is almost an optically perfect lens.
wow the 50mm f1.8 is betetr than all those lenses? Haha you named like all the lenses i like from fujifilm haha
I bought a zf but sold it because it did not have highlight warning in stills mode. Does the Z8 have that feature? Nikon is on a roll!
Highlight-weighted metering
It actually doesn’t have it but you can back door it
Nikon has a really good feature which is "Highlight-Weighted Metering". It's a feature that I think should be on every digital camera. No need highlight warning or use other metering mode at all. You can always brings back the shadow as the files are really good.
@@ufukkiblat yeah good point. I would caution against using for nighttime street photography. I was using it last weekend and neon signs killed the shot because everything else was so underexposed (even lifting exposure and shadows to the max in post didn’t salvage the file). But this was my error and not the cameras.
I just bought the new z 50mm f1.4 but haven't fully tested it
Native lenses are a must. Stick with the S line as you have 46mpx to your disposal. If budget allows the 2.8 f zoom lenses are magical. I am not sure about the true color rendering on the Sony. I can not compare but if you get a chance just try first. If you can not see any difference stick with what you have :)
Appreciate your comment thank you.
does anybody know the bgm at the beginning of the video?it's catchy,please tell me the title，thank you😊
if you figured it out let me know.
@Iamtongue sunet rider-speedy the spider
@@Iamtongue sunset rider
You can program buttons to do what you want. Even the dials. Go into the Control menu.
Thanks I'll look into it!
Ditched Fuji this past summer for the a7r V🤤🤤🤤 Can’t go back!
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You should try the Boryoza AF adapter for your Fuji lenses on the Nikon body, you can shoot in either FX or DX.
As for colors and filmsimulations > DxO FilmPack 7
Beast mode unleased!
you know it!
Z8 is great workhorse. I like my Zf but the moment I take x-t5 in hand everything clicks. I moved from Canon R6 to X-T5 with no regrets. Sure AF and picture quality is better on Nikon (and was great on Canon). I stay with Fujifilm, becouse its more fun.
From my experience, Nikon's Z lenses will perform better than adapted lenses. For me there was a noticeable improvement between using an older Nikon F lens with the FTZ adapter vs a native Z lens. I assume that difference would be similar with other third-party lenses.... or maybe it's the focus motor design of Nikon's older lenses.
The Z8 is so good that two of the three moderators on DP review Fuji forum use it as their primary camera. Yes you read that correctly that they don’t actually regularly use Fuji cameras.
Sounds great, i always wanted to get the Nikon ZF but i hated the over priced Nikon lenses especially as they don’t have aperture rings. But not anymore thanks to megadap! Mate that’s a serious game changer as most of the newer Sony Lenses now include an aperture ring. My Fuji muscle memory won’t require recalibration.
Thx for honest review 👍 Do You have possibility to make 1:1 compare of native Fujifilm Film Simulations vs Cobalt Image Fujifilm film profiles on Z8 raw files?
Perhaps! I will have to see.
Great, I would love to see such comparison, because right now only thing what keeps me in Fuji system are Film Simulations and overall Fuji color science. If I could mimic Fujifilm Film sims with cobalt image film profiles, there is nothing what would hold me back to switching to Nikon Z system..
I've owned many Fuji cameras through the years and recently bought the Cobalt Image CaptureOne Fujifilm profiles for my Z8. I was pretty disappointed. They might be more accurate in Lightroom though.
@@dsalzr uhh.. Very disappointing to hear that 😑 Can You tell me what was Your main complain? Cobakr images weren't accurate mimicking Fuji Film Simulations?
@@fotokozlowskiI had the same experience, I don’t fine the cobalt profiles to be a replacement. I really liked classic chrome and Astia on my Fuji but can’t get it to feel good when applying it to Nikon files. With that said though I think the files are generally pretty easy to edit
I think Nikon Z50 II + Megadap ETZ21 Pro + Tamron 17-70mm f/2.8 would be a great combo
I personally would advise renting a native Nikon 50mm lens, that way you can check if indeed the AF speed is improved (and potentially other advantages, like less vignetting)
Thank you
There is a difference between subject detection and autofocus speed. I've owned several nikon lenses. The body is the one dictating subject detection and the lens with it's respective af motor drives the lens element to focus. Of all lenses I've owned, the fastest focusing and the one who keeps up really well is 70-200 f2.8 s. That is blazingly fast and i rarely missed focus on it when set on proper shutter speed. The one I'd say least reliable specially on moving subject specially in events like wedding is 85mm 1.8. don't even try shooting with it with the people moving on the aisles during the procession and you'd risk missing some shots where it could be soft because the lens could not keep up
This is why Sony is getting more appealing to me-the 85mm f1.4 mk ii they just released is blazing fast…Sony seems to get that speed is good no matter the lens. I really would love to have an 85mm-equivalent prime that rips. On Fuji, I probably should have kept the Viltrox 56mm, it was a pretty fast lens but the Fuji 56 just kills it in image quality. It is also a bit sluggish in terms of tracking but the accuracy is great.
So cool that you got into Nikon 🙌 I’m also a Fujifilm user (for photography), but am looking forward to Nikon bringing awesome RED RAW video to the masses 😎 So have been very curious of their system.
Same here!
Ask Matt Irwin, or one of your favorite Nikon people about performance of native lenses vs megadap adapters.This is great to hear! I might switch as well.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Get the Z 50mm 1.8 is the best 50 out there. Also the 85mm 1.2 and the 135mm are surreal!
Those are in the “MUST TRY”
Bro, welcome to the bright side.
You know the Z8 has some type of soft setting thing in the menu. I don’t own one & maybe it is just for face/people. Check the manual or Nikon’s website. When the Z8 was released, it was a feature the Z9 didn’t have at the time. If you’re happy with the Sony lenses & don’t need any faster focus, why add unless you just like to. Sounds a little like new toy infatuation saying it’s Greek’s awesome but a little soft & wondering about faster focus. I see wildlife photos fro Sony Canon & Nikon. Don’t get me wrong, some Nikon are super sharp but as a Nikon user I would say they were taken at pretty close distance for wildlife. Canon is better as the distance gets greater & I think nobody beats Sony as the distance lengthens & also in lower light. Being vested in Nikon lenses, I hope I’m wrong but doubt it very much.
Got the Zf after the XT5. Haven’t looked back, and I use only manual focus lenses 😅
I would skip the 1.4s, in my experience they are more fussy than they are worth. The 1.8 or 1.2 options are preferable.
This is actually the same thing that happens when a Fuji shooter goest to Canon, Sony, Nikon or even a Leica Q. I shot Fuji for a while. I still wonder why.
Damn that price of your used Z8 is as hot like your intro 🔥
I have thought about getting the Z8 the past few weeks, but have resisted the urge to do an impulse buy for now :D
I watched the videos from Shootswithcoops yesterday and compared to his video AF footage with Megadapt x Sony lenses it was quite decent for video. But I have the impression, that my 28mm 2.8 and 40mm f2 are a bit smoother in video AF, but I might be wrong. I heard that the Nikon AF shines with lenses of the Silver line up. If I remember correctly Taylor Jackson did some videos on that.
Great video and happy for you getting the Z8 at such a price! Now after using Sony and Nikon AF system, the only child left is Canon :D
Thanks man I appreciate the suggestions I will look into this.
Try the Techart PRO TZM-02 adapter... You can use manual M Mount lens on the Z8 perfectly 😍
Thanks for the suggestion!
Fuji : User base: 50% Poser , 30% Starting Professional , 20% Professional Photographers.
Sony : Third party lens Collector, Working class Photographer. Those who prefer usabilty/ reliability than aesthetic 😂
Nikon: Veteran Photographer, has been on the game before our parents get married
Canon: Sorry. I shoot only weddings 🤭
Lumix/Panasonic: The silent kid on the room
Hahah
Definitely, Nikon lenses work better than any other brand lenses on Nikon Body.
Not a pro, so I’m happy with the fooj cameras. Nikon zf is always temping tho.
Proof it that the autofocus on the Z8 with Sony lenses is doing better than the Fuji! Make a video comparison if you dare, for photo and video.
That's alot of work. Why don't you take my word for it?
@@Iamtongue because I prefer to see a real action than just talk.
@@ufukkiblat ya that’s a lot of work. How about you do it?
Problem with Nikon is to get really good AF tracking you have to spend the bucks on a higher end body.
I have fuji if someone really needs tracking it’s not great.
But Canon does great job at giving consumers great lower end bodies with great tracking….that way you can spend the money on great glass. People complain they don’t have enough 3rd party glass but man what they have is really great stuff.
The z6iii is "affordable" compared to the high end bodies. Also ZF is the same price as the xt5
@ I do mostly bird photography….zf just doesn’t cut it for that kind of tracking. That’s why canon does a great pricing for that level of tracking like the r7, r10 and r8.
That R7 tracking is really that good? :o
@@Iamtongue even the R8 when it first came out, a budget full frame its tracking was already better than z8. The R7 is also very good….check out people who shoot mostly birds. I find tracking birds is a tougher test. You see what canon does is entice people with great lower end bodies to get them into the system.
I would imagine part of the experience would be shooting with native glass to get the full experience
Great video Tung - try the Z 50 1.4 it is a lot like the Fuji 35 1.4 (character) but all of the Z glass is really nice. The 40mm f2 is also fantastic.
i love my Zf and am in no hurry to change it - 24 mega pickles is perfect for like 90% of things i do.
I am excited for the next generation of Nikon cameras or whenever they integrate RED technology, hopefully in the Z9 II or Z8 II.
BTW i sold my xt4 + 33 this weekend and for the first time in over 6 years I have no Fuji's
Thanks man, I really want the 50mm F1.4 Z but I dont know would be a wasted purchase now that I haev the ezt adapter with the sony 50mm f1.4 gm. I will have to figure this out haha...
We want a z8/X-H2S comparison, obviously…for stills, not RUclips shooters!
Please send me an XH2s so i can make it happen 😂🤣
I like my XH1 but if the Nikon is most comparable ill take it. I hear the AF isnt as good as Sony ir Canon or Panasonic, but honestly, Anthony better than Fuji is good. The newest Fujis cant even compete with a 2018 A7iii
X-T5 and Zf also have the same resolution EVFs. Zf EVF murders the X-T5, particularly for MF.
First sony, now nikon...i like how you're showing us your camera hookups 😂
Pretty much! You know what they say.. date your cameras
SEND IT!
you know it
I am always a nikonian, but I use fuji 😂. Since all good nikon cameras and lenses became so expensive, I left nikon and never turn back 😊
Fair enough!
Subject detect on manual focus lenses on the zf 🤯 going from fujifilm
That's crazy! I saw that and such a cool feature to have.
Awesome video as always. Cheers.
Fuji really needs to up their game in terms of video features, AF and stabilization. They have a lot of potential but horrible software and firmware. Nikon and Canon are years ahead in these terms.
Coming from someone who has used XE4 with 35mmf2, even 5-6 years old Sony and Canon can beat modern Fuji in terms of AF, stabilization, etc.
Totally agree. I am beginning to see more of the technological advancements done with other camera systems now, and because of that Fuji just feels like a temu brand camera now. Build quality and software development.
I am waiting for Lumix S2R and I am out of X system. It's a good name for a system 'ex'.
9 years of investing in gear, down the drain. An All I got i big 'F' from Fuji.
The Kubla Khan of Digital Photography. 🎉🎉🎉 z8 invading the island of Tsushima
For wedding and documentary. Fuji. For fast aircraft. Nikon.
50mm f1.8 Z!
Oh Toung you have come of age. Cut your teeth with Fujifilm. Now you are grown you realise. It's not the tool. It's you. Use the tools you need. Just keep the fire burning brother ❤
Cheers dude
Zed 8. Yeah.
Any lens you use on the Fuji, or Sony... Nikon has better equals. But if your AF lenses work from another manufacturer, then why change. I will say I am an OEM guy and therefore only use Nikon on Nikon. But many have had success like you. Nikon lenses the "S Line" will AF better, but if you are good... then I would not change.
Thank you for that
The only thing missing was the cowboy hat
🤠yeehaw
The Z8 is literally the same size as an old Canon 5Dmkiv and nearly twice the size of an X100v. Enjoy carrying that around your neck all day. Totally different user base to the Fujifilm X.
@@gvnrchmnd I bench 133kg for reps. I’ll be fine lol
Traitor… joking, enjoy the new camera it looks like a beast. 😊
HAAH thanks.
Just for shits and giggles, get the 26mm f/2.8 pancake lens. Makes the Z8 almost pocketable :p
Boom 🤯
I wasn't a big fan of the Nikon 1.4 lenses tbh. They're good but..vintage design so they are kinda soft and don't control flaring well so their contrast is meh
That's interesting, the fuji folks would love that because it reminds them of some of their beloved lenses.
i touched that camera before you did
Using a sigma lens, made for sony, slapped onto a nikon and the AF rips all Fuji cameras with native LM lenses.
Make it make sense! 😭
Z8 is a size of GFX 100 II.
Yup its huge, maybe thicker in some areas, because gfx100ii is like a box.
From reading comments about Nikon colors I am so happy to have acquired a GFX 100s ii.
what does that mean
Cam? That you?
Sorry nikon zf design is not fuji like. It refer to 70's nikon fm2 design
@@asetiarama sorry
after z8, my wrist feel hurt
I bailed at the first F word. Good grief. Can't we keep profanity out of camera reviews?
@@shorne1111 my channel my rules. So fck it
nikon or sony?
I switched from a pair of Fujifilm XT5 to Nikon Z8, ZF as my wedding kit. Yes the autofocus is definitely an upgrade vs the Fujifilm. And if one is not chasing the lightweight and compact. I do prefer the ergonomics on the Nikon bodies.
Got a couple friends using the ETZ and they all have good things to say. However native Z lenses will take advantage of the diameter and flange distance of the Z mount. In terms of the 35mm f/1.4 Z and 50mm f/1.4 Z, I would skip them, the CA on them are kinda bad wide open. I personally went with the 35 f/1.8S and 50 f/1.8S, very happy with them.
Anything I miss from the Fujifilm…yes, I do miss the film simulations when I am not using my cameras for work.
Right now I am missing the Film simulations as well shooting with the Nikon.
@ hopefully we will see the Nikon imaging cloud support comes to the Z8 via firmware soon. So we can use the creators picture control or create our own recipes and download to our body.
When I own the z8 boy oh boy I loved/hate it 😂
For some reason every time I switch from photo to video even when I hit the settings right my video specs kept changing and I had no idea why. And their menu was far worse than Sony. They have things in places I did not understand why.
Anyways, still love the end results, but it was frustrating for sure.
And I just said it. Maybe Nikon is not for me.
Definitely want to buy it again maybe for the 3rd time 😂
You do know, Nikon use different menus when in photo mode and in video mode, so when you switch to video mode, you go back to the last video mode you used. it does not use the settings you just made in photo mode.
@ I’m aware
Well, if you need a fast and reliable AF, better not take a Fuji, Leica, or Panasonic camera!
Hahah I wont.