I was fortunate to have bought my 1971 Camaro SS350 new in 1971. I’ve kept it all these years and it currently has only 36,000 miles. Still looks new. Love that car.
I ordered a 73 z-28 I still have mine. 22,000 miles . Mine is also all original except for engine and transmission. I raced it quite Abit. That explains different engine 350 - 370hp.+ A few extras B+M 400 TRANS 488 GEARS. LOVE TO SEE YOURS. GLAD YOU KEPT IT
💥 7:06 Nothing at car shows annoys me more than seeing this low budget RS conversion from a base Camaro. Aside from it not having the round front blinker lights the entire center nose area is very much different and was not mentioned in this video. The surround around the grill is thick rubber, not sheet metal and there is a visible seam. My dads 69 GTO had a rubber front area and he said it was called an Enduro bumper. Also the two grills are separated with the same rubber material with a thin vertical strip and the grills are deeply inset into the nose and has a wide chrome bezel around it. I love my 70-1/2 RS Z28 and thank you for this great video. 🇺🇸💪🏼
you missed some things, there were a bunch of 1970 only features. big block cars had the rear tail panel painted black, the different trim options had different taillight lenses.
In the quiz section, the Mulsane Blue 1970 RS/SS has the low back seat but shows the tall rear spoiler that was 1971 and up. The spoiler is easier to spot from a distance than the seats. Also no mention of the 1972½ changes for clip in shoulder harness (vs 2 full belts) and seat belt warning buzzer and dashboard warning light (just to the right of the radio on the bottom of the IP pad. Just peaked into my 72½ to verify the warning light. Mine is a unicorn, 72½ and Z-28 and Spring Green. (Only 2575 total 72 Z-28's for all of the model year due to the strike at the assembly plant.)
Oh the memories! Had 70 1/2 Z/28 and like many, sold it so I could move to Las Vegas. Should of left it in Dad's barn! Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
One thing I think you missed mention as far as differences go is that the 1970 model had a one piece rear spoiler that has a lower profile than the 71-73 three piece rear spoiler. You'll also notice that in the pictures several 1970's have the incorrect rear spoiler because the three piece spoilers were more popular.
Well... while it is true that the 1970 came with the one piece spoiler (if it was ordered with one, of course...), it is NOT true that a '70 is "incorrect" with a 3 piece "high" spoiler. Starting on April 20, 1970, the 3 piece (COPO 9796) became available to purchase from the dealership. So, technically, a '70 with a 3 piece installed on it is completely fine. There were actually quite a few people who purchased, and installed them on their Camaros in 1970.
I WAS TOLD THAT FIREBIRD HAD DIFFERENT QUARTER PANEL. BUT THEY STILL WORK . MAKE SURE YOU DO BOTH SIDES..FIREBIRD IS WIDER. SPOILER MAY NOT FIT PROPER.FILLER PANEL MAY HAVE ISSUES TOO.
...and it's that "most common error" that always drove me the most crazy! I hate seeing split bumpers installed on the "standard" front end. imho, they look better with a full bumper anyways
@Bounty hunter Turtle To each their own! I can only hope he, at the very least, doesn't just slap two bumperettes on it, and call it done, though. There is a big hole in the standard grille, where the hood release is, and when you remove the full bumper, it sticks out like a sore thumb. If you take care of that, I suposse it looks "ok"... I'm not the type of guy to pick on ANYBODY for doing what they like. I was just stating my personal opinion on it. It seems to be such a common thing for people to do, that most people (who don't really KNOW Camaros) refer to ALL 70's as "split bumper Camaros", and I guess maybe it just gets my OCD going... LOL I don't mind the RS front, but it seems so rare anymore to see one with a full bumper, that I think that makes them even cooler, yet! In order to fully change the front to an "RS" optioned car (which is the only way they left the factory without a full bumper), there is quite a bit of stuff that needs to be changed. You'll need a header panel, lower valance, lights, urethane nose, two grille halves, center divider, brackets to the rad support, and (of course) the bumpers. If it has a spoiler, you'll also need the correct spoiler to fit the new lower valance. ...and then, don't forget the paint work, afterwards. Again, just my humble opinion. It's his car, and he can do whatever he likes! ALL Camaros rule!
No way! Split bumper is the iconic look, like a shark mouth about to bite you. Full bumper is like putting braces on a Hot Lady she’s still sexy but also dorky. If that’s your thing more power to you. But I like the wide mouth open on a Camaro grill
Thanks for the video. Driven mine since 81, bought from the first owner. Unfortunately he had cut the fuel line to remove the filter and slipped a rubber tube in with clamps. Burned for 3 hours. That was a hard 3 hrs for a 17 year old that had just bought his second Camaro. I dont regret the outcome though many would ? its legitimacy. But it will pull the wheels anytime i wana play. Yup to 2015 _Rubicnn, good catch. My first was a 72 RS and had all you mentioned aside from darker tail lights :). Sold out from under me for bad grades. Second one didn't get away.
1973 had different front and rear bumpers & brackets. The rear bumper in 1973 had rubber pieces on the edges and the bumper was moved out by 1/2". the face of the bumper is slightly different as well. I used '70-'72 brackets to move my bumper in on my '73 after removing the end pieces. The front bumper in 1973 had a heavy inner reinforcement that you can remove to save weight. Also, in 1973 only extra reinforcing bars were added to the radiator support of the R/S models. This is because of the 2.5mph bumper laws. Things got ugly in 1974 as the law was increased to 5mph and just about every car got much heavier bumpers.
Saved this video.enjoyed it.i have a 71 Z28 matching no. Now im retired.pretty sure going to have ground up restore. Wish could find same seen em 40 tho. Pricing gess 50 tho maybe. Had the car since 1977. In barn.coming out this year.looking at these pics.sealed the deal.thanks again
@@aldo6192 I will check but if it was built in April of 71' that would normally make the car a 72' because new car years would start in late august but there were always exceptions to the rule and GM was going through labor strikes at the plant that built Camaros and Firebirds around that time
500 cars had the long spoiler in 1970 so it could qualify for racing. A seemingly knowledgable youtuber claims one had to order it threw the COPO program. I like kinda like the short one, as I had a SS/RS L36 4sp car years back and always thought is looked less like an afterthought that the bigger one.
Everything about the 1970 1/2 Camaro are different then the other years. Including the inside rear view mirror, sun visors, sun visor support, seats, seat covers, seat tracks, front seat carpet hold down clips, the way the front inner fender housings are installed, z28 wheels valve stem holes, 12 bolts rears 70 only, Also if the cars aren’t L.A. cars then no emissions stuff like the gas tanks plus a few other odds and ends. The rear package tray metal panel has the cut outs for the 2 different rear window defogger holes.
I was followed for several seconds by a ghost Camaro on Texas Hwy 77 S in 1976. It moved sharply from side to side, dipping deeply, right behind my VW beetle. It was an orangey brown. I looked forward for a second , looked back, and it was gone.
The '70-'73 Camaro differed in many ways, the seats, emblems, grill work. The chrome rings around the taillights were part of decor groups, 70&'71 grills were the same, '72&'73 were identical with the exception of the bumper guards on the '73 for the new bumper standard, and finally the console changed in '73 to the style the Firebird had. Otherwise those cars were the bomb.
Were also some other interior differences that were not mentioned. 73s had a different shifter on the console automatic cars, and if I remember correctly, the spedos only went to 120mph in 72/73, 150mph in 70/71.
Also note that there was no Cowl Induction Hood on the original 1970-1973 Camaros. Many have added this and it looks good on many of them, however it was not original.
The Z-28 gas pedal was hinged at the bottom , while all others were floating from a bracket at the top. Also 1970 never had air conditioning vents in the dash board....
I miss my wifes 73 RS LT... had aftermarket 402 / m21 close ratio /10 bolt 3:73. Loved that rocket ship. It can be seen in episode "case of satchel bandit" unsolved mysteries
Note ! The 1970 Camaro car.Rear tail back up & parking light's. Are kind of special. Are similar to the 1970 Corvette rear tail back up & parking light's. And the real tail light's back up & parking light's.For the 1971/72/73 one's are much different. Check them out
I purchased a 1973 Camaro body without a motor back in 1984. Installed a 350 ci motor and raced it on the freeway on the way to work back then. Wish i still had it.
I special ordered a 1973 Type LT Z/28 that had auto trans with column shift and no console. The LT emblems overrode Z/28 emblems so there was no outward indication that it was a Z/28. Only way to tell was the cowl tag.
Yes that is true. I have a friend who bought a brand new 73 lt z28. His is maroon with no stripes, lt badging all over the car, 4 speed no console chrome open element air cleaner. He still has it and it’s about 98 percent original including the paint and completely rust free.
I also ordered this arrangement but with close ratio 4sp.and 373 rear L82 350 Vette engine amazing car loved having it not much it wouldn't beat in a short race the turbo fire V8 was bullet proof.
Best looking Camaro in HISTORY. I never owned a 1969. Had a 1967. Built the whole car for under $ 2,100 . I had it faster than any production Camaro released by Chevrolet.
One thing you forgot that is super critical for all the 2nd gen Camaro fans was 1973 Camaro's were a very special year. 73 is the only year you could get all 3 packages; RS/z28/Type LT. 1973 Camaro was the first year air conditioning came with the z28, you couldn't get air conditioning in the previous years with the z28 package. It was rare for someone to check box all 3 packages thus making that year with all 3 packages a Blue Chip Camaro. Very rare and I wish I had one. I have a 1973 Camaro RS/Type LT. Missing the z28 but oh well she is a blast to drive!
I’m pretty sure the performance package designation took precedence over the appearance package designation to properly identify the Camaro...Z/28-RS...SS/RS...etc
if you own a RS camaro on the build sheet it says Z22 code meaning it has the RS option, Z22 is not stamped on the engine block or fender tags or in vin tag,even the 6 cylender camaros you could get the RS option
there are other difference that are not covered here. the 1970 car has a lot of unique parts for that year. the 12 bolt rear end was only available in 1970 on high performance cars. the 1970 sun visor was longer than the other years, and the side marker lights don't blink like other years. the steering wheels (with the exception of the 4 spoke) were unique to 1970. 71 and 72 SS steering wheel is unique. 70 and 71 deluxe interior and 72 and 73 deluxe interior door panels are different. the deluxe interior and standard interior windows mechanisms are different. dash bezels were different depending on the option package, U14 gauge package was different between years and models. 70 and 71 had 150mph speedo's and 72-79 had 130mph speedo's. the tach on base models and z28, ss350, ss396 350hp, ss396 375hp, 71 and 72 ss396 300 and 270 HP were all different. the divers side front fender is unique and so is the inner fender well. Big block cars and z28 all got HD cooling so the radiator core support and radiator hold down was different. small block and big block radiators were different and so is the fan shroud. the L78 375 396 was only available in 1970 had a unique dual snorkel air cleaner. the 1970 L34 SS 396 350hp had a unique open element air cleaner. the Z28 in 1970 -72 used the same dual snorkel air cleaner. 1971 and 72 SS 396 used 2 unique air cleaners, a single snorkel for cars with AC and a dual snorkel for cars with out AC. 73 Z28 used a unique open element air cleaner. F41 suspension was required on Z28 and SS396. the front are rear sway bars are different between Z28 and SS396. SS350 cars could also be ordered with F41 and also used different sway bars than z28 or SS396. gas tanks were different between 70, 71 and 72 and also depending on what what emissions control was on the cars 49state or California.
Great video! Very informative. It would have been nice if you also included the different engine, transmission, rear differential and suspension specs for each of these packages. Also, the big block engine offered in these cars was marketed as a 396, but it wasn't really a 396. It was actually a 402 cubic inch V8. FYI.
@@johnbutz5631 I owned a 73 Lt1. They had 2 vertical chrome with rubber running above and below the horizontal bumper. Reason for the change? To avoid tapping parked cars with the point of the bumpers. A problem previous years owners complained about. There are examples in this video. 5:08 ,5:19 ,I suggest you watch it again.
Great information. I wondered about the differences and how that played with models and years. Now I can recognize these and speak with intelligence about them. I bought a normie hand me down from my Dad, but it was pretty cool to be 17 and be driving around a normie 1971 non RS non SS non Z28 Camaro. It still got looks, and honestly had plenty of power for me at the time. I top tuned it because it had a very tempermental 2bbl carburator and Thermostatic Coil choke that I was constantly messing around with to make it react instantly, but open fully. Finally I modded the carb, and put in a manual choke to make sure it was opening up all the way when it should. Nobody taught me how, I just did it. Because it was a normie model (a beautiful blue one that seemed to have a purplish tint at night) it had the pointy bumper and I remember I accidently hit a brick wall at low speed behind a gas station one day. It chipped a chunk out of the wall right at the sharp middle of the bumper, but it didn't scratch or dent the chrome bumper in the least. They don't make em like that anymore. I remember thinking at the time that it had too much smog crap on it, but I was glad I didn't have the 72 where it got even worse. I like the longbody 2nd generation cars, but I think the 1970 version, before the smog add-ons are best from a mechanical standpoint.Of course I guess you could just remove that stuff. I don't know why I didn't just tear it out, but I guess I was still happy with the performance. Mine was lower powered, but at least it was a V8 and it was heaven for a 17 year old boy. Databyter
Enjoyed this video, would like to see some split screen comparison. I have owned a lot of Z28s- 71/78/91/96/and now a 2000... I will be checking out some of your other Videos... 🚦🏎🏁...✌️
Here is something that might interest someone: I had a '72 RS/SS 350 4-speed car with the custom deluxe interior (woodgrain door panels and padding $$$$ now). I decided to look for the build sheet and found it under the rear seat cushion. I carefully removed the springs and got it out. When I looked at it said the car was factory black with a 402 and a 4-speed! The VIN did not match so my interior had been swapped. Man, I've never seen a '72 402 4-speed car I wish I could have found the donor car.
Like to see the early second gens. Many more model differences. 70 -71 has 150 mph speedos, 72 -73 had 130 mph. 70 - 72 had the same console option. 73 used the Pontiac Firebird console and continued thru 81. 70 - 72 had two separate seat belts per front seat, one lap and one shoulder. 73 had one buckle that incorporates the lap and shoulder together which also has the seat belt hook at the headrest of the seat. 70 - 71 had fake stitching on interior side panels, 72 - 73 did not. I know 73 and maybe 72 had the "Fasten Seat Belt" light on the dash. The 1970 was the only one to have a 12 bolt axle option. In the 73 the clutch pedal was made smaller than previous years.
1970 was the only 2nd gen Camaro to have a factory 12 bolt option. 71 thru 81 all had 10 bolts only. So, other than 1970, all years of the 2nd gen Camaros that had a Z28 model would have had the 10 bolt. My name is not Jack, which means you were wrong twice in your comment.
They may look the same from the rear - but 70 had its own tail light lenses - different from later versions. Also the RS option had small metal rings around the inner portion of the lens
Great video. Thank you for making it. Dit miss the 1973 only option for the front bumperguards (the ones with rubber inlays). And i believe there are differences with the rear bumper guards. None the less i will be watching this video often. 👍
I was born on Halloween 1971 and I own a 1971. 😎 When I bought mine it was titled incorrectly as a 72. After thorough research and fighting with the state of IL, I was finally able to get the car a new/corrected title.
One picture was not accurate. The 1970 model never came with the large 3 piece spoiler on the trunk lid. It came with the short one piece spoiler only.....
@@dduplechian u seem to know a lot about camaro's i have a question for u i got a 79 z28 rs t top with the full spoiler kit from factory . it is the first camaro i have seen with the full spoiler kit . do u know how rare it is because i was told from the guy i got it free from that it was a one of a kind car because of the spoiler kit . most people have know idea what i'm talking about on the spoiler kit
My sister owned a 70 with 6 cyl auto on the steering column. I had a 70 with 350 Chevy used seats from 69 camaro,my buddy had 69. Seats and auto shifter were the same
I'VE OWNED A LOT OF OLD MUSCLE CARS BACK IN THE DAY,BUT ONLY ONE CAMARO 74THIRD GENERATION TYPE LT AND IT SHOCKED ME AS HOW MUCH POWER IT HAD,IT HAD BEEN DESMOGED,OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I CALL THEM!!!DON'T KNOW THE GEAR RATIO,BUT IT WAS A POSI UNIT!!!!!
I know about the 1970-1972-1973 Camaro's. Because I had a 1970 SS/RS 396 Camaro.[ only 600 were made ] And I do know all of the differences. And it [1970] was the last high performance & high octane GM/Chevy cars.
I have a 71. Engine is a 327 head with a 350 bottom. Same engine since 1996. Its my every day rrr. I dont know how many miles is on it. I changes the plugs E40's. Every six months, warranty. Oil change every 3 months. Lucas oil. And i use Old school engine restore on every oil change. Knn air filter chamge every 6 months. ✌
technicaly the RS (split bumper) is the Z22 code option,only way to find out if its a realy RS if you have the build sheet saying Z22 code option on it because its not stamped on the engine block,fender tags,vin tag
The Blue Camaro RS/Z28 from the 4:54 mark to the 5:00 minute mark is not a 1972 Camaro RS/Z28 as you have stated because it clearly has the "Tight Mesh Grill" that was only available on the 1970 & 1971 Camaro's. This is clearly a 1971 because it has the "high-back bucket seats" along with the "Tight Mesh Grill". - If it had the "Wide Mesh Grill" then it could have been a 1972. Just to let you know! No big deal!!!
I still own my 70 Z28 which I purchased in 1981 from the orig owner. The orig owner asked me if the car was for sale cause he wants it back and doesn’t want any other Z28. I told him it wasn’t for sale.
Michael V when I was in College in ‘74 I drove a 1968 Z/28 with the gas guzzling 302. A friend of mine owns it today, British Green with white stripes and black interior. I still remember how hard the clutch pedal felt while driving it. It was fun back in those days on the street with maybe a handful of Cops being around.
@@johnmilner7603 . That was the high compression MA302 I think . Before the DZ302. That is a great car. Love the green with white stripes!The guy who rebuilt my Lt-1 in 1985 had a 1968 Z/28. Those are rare cars. Those were some fun days. Man I wish I had the set up I have now back in the 1980s. Coil overs, tubular A arms , full hotchkis set up. 4 wheel discs. And a whole list of goodies. If it wasn't a true Z/28 I would have put a LS motor in it. But I stayed old school with modern suspension and brakes. 68 to 71 Z/28s are my favorites
Michael V 1968 was the MO 302. My 70 is all stock except for a roller cam. I lost 2 solid lifter cams and the 2nd time I used the best oils with ZDDP and still lost a lobe after 8700 mi. I said F it, no more, I’m going roller. Have had my roller cam since 2012. My car came with the Muncie M20, even though I like the ratio better than the M21/M22 (same ratio), I replaced my M20 gears with M22 gears cause I love the whine of the M22 rock crusher.
@@johnmilner7603 . Thanks for the info MO. Got it. Ya I said f it on the solid lifter too. I went with a comp cam 280H and Roller rockers. The inerds of the LT-1 are awesome guideplates, windage tray, 4 bolt. Steel crank. I loved helping go through it so I could learn. Ya I am partial to the 26 spline close ratio. But of course I would love a 6 speed. Back in the day it was the Doug nash 5 speed but I didn't have that kind of money. You had and have some great classic muscle cars.
How about the rear deck spoiler options on these cars. I prefer the one that wraps around quarters. Which cars are identified by the different spoilers?
RS or SS had a inner polished stainless ring halfway in. But the same lenses otherwise. Though the front markers on some photos I have seen, did have a stainless outer accent for a short time on some version. thought i saw that in my 70 assembly manual. Many rare things in the 70 year they deleted.
I was fortunate to have bought my 1971 Camaro SS350 new in 1971. I’ve kept it all these years and it currently has only 36,000 miles. Still looks new. Love that car.
I ordered a 73 z-28 I still have mine. 22,000 miles . Mine is also all original except for engine and transmission. I raced it quite Abit. That explains different engine 350 - 370hp.+ A few extras B+M 400 TRANS 488 GEARS. LOVE TO SEE YOURS. GLAD YOU KEPT IT
Tom - Willie - You both need to show off your wheels ‼️
@@speedrazer2000 I do on the street and parades a couple times a year . Don't do the inter web
💥 7:06 Nothing at car shows annoys me more than seeing this low budget RS conversion from a base Camaro. Aside from it not having the round front blinker lights the entire center nose area is very much different and was not mentioned in this video.
The surround around the grill is thick rubber, not sheet metal and there is a visible seam. My dads 69 GTO had a rubber front area and he said it was called an Enduro bumper. Also the two grills are separated with the same rubber material with a thin vertical strip and the grills are deeply inset into the nose and has a wide chrome bezel around it.
I love my 70-1/2 RS Z28 and thank you for this great video. 🇺🇸💪🏼
I have a 1971 RS/SS with the split bumper
Exactly what I was looking for when searching the differences between these years Camaros! Thank you for the great video.
These were really the last good Camaros for a long, long time.
you missed some things, there were a bunch of 1970 only features. big block cars had the rear tail panel painted black, the different trim options had different taillight lenses.
Yeah the only thing I learned is that I want more Camaros. I've had three already now I want more
OMG
Having never owned a camero, but always loved the second gen, this video was a great learning tool for me, thank you.
I've never owned a Camero, either... But I have owned several Camaros. ;)
Second generation Camaro's ran for 11 years 1970/1981 but the 70/71's were the best two out of the 11 year run.
In the quiz section, the Mulsane Blue 1970 RS/SS has the low back seat but shows the tall rear spoiler that was 1971 and up. The spoiler is easier to spot from a distance than the seats. Also no mention of the 1972½ changes for clip in shoulder harness (vs 2 full belts) and seat belt warning buzzer and dashboard warning light (just to the right of the radio on the bottom of the IP pad. Just peaked into my 72½ to verify the warning light. Mine is a unicorn, 72½ and Z-28 and Spring Green. (Only 2575 total 72 Z-28's for all of the model year due to the strike at the assembly plant.)
The tall spoiler came out in April of 70 as a COPO option so some 70s can have the tall spoiler also
Oh the memories! Had 70 1/2 Z/28 and like many, sold it so I could move to Las Vegas. Should of left it in Dad's barn! Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
Thank you very much for putting this video together!
I am looking for a 1970 SS and this will help me in my search - much appreciated.
Glad I could help!
One thing I think you missed mention as far as differences go is that the 1970 model had a one piece rear spoiler that has a lower profile than the 71-73 three piece rear spoiler. You'll also notice that in the pictures several 1970's have the incorrect rear spoiler because the three piece spoilers were more popular.
Well... while it is true that the 1970 came with the one piece spoiler (if it was ordered with one, of course...), it is NOT true that a '70 is "incorrect" with a 3 piece "high" spoiler.
Starting on April 20, 1970, the 3 piece (COPO 9796) became available to purchase from the dealership. So, technically, a '70 with a 3 piece installed on it is completely fine.
There were actually quite a few people who purchased, and installed them on their Camaros in 1970.
You could get either one
I WAS TOLD THAT FIREBIRD HAD DIFFERENT QUARTER PANEL. BUT THEY STILL WORK . MAKE SURE YOU DO BOTH SIDES..FIREBIRD IS WIDER. SPOILER MAY NOT FIT PROPER.FILLER PANEL MAY HAVE ISSUES TOO.
I definitely would like to own both 1970 camaros full bumper and the split bumper models. Awesome collection additions. 👌👍
I have the full bumper
...and it's that "most common error" that always drove me the most crazy! I hate seeing split bumpers installed on the "standard" front end. imho, they look better with a full bumper anyways
@Bounty hunter Turtle To each their own! I can only hope he, at the very least, doesn't just slap two bumperettes on it, and call it done, though. There is a big hole in the standard grille, where the hood release is, and when you remove the full bumper, it sticks out like a sore thumb. If you take care of that, I suposse it looks "ok"... I'm not the type of guy to pick on ANYBODY for doing what they like. I was just stating my personal opinion on it.
It seems to be such a common thing for people to do, that most people (who don't really KNOW Camaros) refer to ALL 70's as "split bumper Camaros", and I guess maybe it just gets my OCD going... LOL
I don't mind the RS front, but it seems so rare anymore to see one with a full bumper, that I think that makes them even cooler, yet!
In order to fully change the front to an "RS" optioned car (which is the only way they left the factory without a full bumper), there is quite a bit of stuff that needs to be changed.
You'll need a header panel, lower valance, lights, urethane nose, two grille halves, center divider, brackets to the rad support, and (of course) the bumpers. If it has a spoiler, you'll also need the correct spoiler to fit the new lower valance. ...and then, don't forget the paint work, afterwards.
Again, just my humble opinion. It's his car, and he can do whatever he likes! ALL Camaros rule!
No way! Split bumper is the iconic look, like a shark mouth about to bite you. Full bumper is like putting braces on a Hot Lady she’s still sexy but also dorky. If that’s your thing more power to you. But I like the wide mouth open on a Camaro grill
Thanks for the video. Driven mine since 81, bought from the first owner. Unfortunately he had cut the fuel line to remove the filter and slipped a rubber tube in with clamps. Burned for 3 hours. That was a hard 3 hrs for a 17 year old that had just bought his second Camaro. I dont regret the outcome though many would ? its legitimacy. But it will pull the wheels anytime i wana play.
Yup to 2015 _Rubicnn, good catch. My first was a 72 RS and had all you mentioned aside from darker tail lights :). Sold out from under me for bad grades. Second one didn't get away.
1973 had different front and rear bumpers & brackets. The rear bumper in 1973 had rubber pieces on the edges and the bumper was moved out by 1/2". the face of the bumper is slightly different as well. I used '70-'72 brackets to move my bumper in on my '73 after removing the end pieces. The front bumper in 1973 had a heavy inner reinforcement that you can remove to save weight. Also, in 1973 only extra reinforcing bars were added to the radiator support of the R/S models. This is because of the 2.5mph bumper laws. Things got ugly in 1974 as the law was increased to 5mph and just about every car got much heavier bumpers.
Saved this video.enjoyed it.i have a 71 Z28 matching no. Now im retired.pretty sure going to have ground up restore. Wish could find same seen em 40 tho. Pricing gess 50 tho maybe. Had the car since 1977. In barn.coming out this year.looking at these pics.sealed the deal.thanks again
one difference you missed is the 1970 Z28 had the short rear spoiler , starting in 1972 they got the tall rear spoiler
@@aldo6192 I will check but if it was built in April of 71' that would normally make the car a 72' because new car years would start in late august but there were always exceptions to the rule and GM was going through labor strikes at the plant that built Camaros and Firebirds around that time
500 cars had the long spoiler in 1970 so it could qualify for racing. A seemingly knowledgable youtuber claims one had to order it threw the COPO program. I like kinda like the short one, as I had a SS/RS L36 4sp car years back and always thought is looked less like an afterthought that the bigger one.
Everything about the 1970 1/2 Camaro are different then the other years. Including the inside rear view mirror, sun visors, sun visor support, seats, seat covers, seat tracks, front seat carpet hold down clips, the way the front inner fender housings are installed, z28 wheels valve stem holes, 12 bolts rears 70 only, Also if the cars aren’t L.A. cars then no emissions stuff like the gas tanks plus a few other odds and ends. The rear package tray metal panel has the cut outs for the 2 different rear window defogger holes.
I was followed for several seconds by a ghost Camaro on Texas Hwy 77 S in 1976. It moved sharply from side to side, dipping deeply, right behind my VW beetle. It was an orangey brown. I looked forward for a second , looked back, and it was gone.
The '70-'73 Camaro differed in many ways, the seats, emblems, grill work. The chrome rings around the taillights were part of decor groups, 70&'71 grills were the same, '72&'73 were identical with the exception of the bumper guards on the '73 for the new bumper standard, and finally the console changed in '73 to the style the Firebird had. Otherwise those cars were the bomb.
and also, 70 ,71 speedometer went to 160 mph ,72 73 is 130 , 72 was the lowest Camaro production .
Were also some other interior differences that were not mentioned. 73s had a different shifter on the console automatic cars, and if I remember correctly, the spedos only went to 120mph in 72/73, 150mph in 70/71.
In 73 it got a 1 piece head liner ,70-72 was different and in 73 it got a cheap council as well
@@darrellsomers5427 Only later 73 got the one piece headliner.
thank you for sharing your knowledge! :) I own TYPE LT Camaro in red colour with white stripes, loving it! Greetings from Poland :)
Unfortunately I'm a stroke and cardiac arrest survivor and can't drive anymore but man great video thanks
Sorry to hear that. I appreciate the comment.
@@AmerikanArabacom no problem I was born with a whole in my heart
Also note that there was no Cowl Induction Hood on the original 1970-1973 Camaros. Many have added this and it looks good on many of them, however it was not original.
Owned a 70 1/2 Z28 from 82’-86’. What a great car it was, sure do miss it..
Jim Rockford would be very proud of this video!
@Tom Smith He did but I think that was more in reference to the groovy music.
Loved your video helps me out what to look for. I'm interested in a 1971 spilt bumper rs.
I like the z28 stripes, split bumper, no front turn signals at all. Or something more hidden , and the 396 engine . But anyway one of my favorite cars
The Z-28 gas pedal was hinged at the bottom , while all others were floating from a bracket at the top. Also 1970 never had air conditioning vents in the dash board....
I miss my wifes 73 RS LT... had aftermarket 402 / m21 close ratio /10 bolt 3:73. Loved that rocket ship. It can be seen in episode "case of satchel bandit" unsolved mysteries
Note ! The 1970 Camaro car.Rear tail back up & parking light's. Are kind of special. Are similar to the 1970 Corvette rear tail back up & parking light's. And the real tail light's back up & parking light's.For the 1971/72/73 one's are much different. Check them out
I purchased a 1973 Camaro body without a motor back in 1984. Installed a 350 ci motor and raced it on the freeway on the way to work back then. Wish i still had it.
Most people don't know this. Z-28s made in California, the rear strips didn't go all the way to the glass.
Correct!
Awesome. Now I know for sure my 67 is not a Type LT. Whew!!
Just kidding, that was awesome and a lot of fun! Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Kool video , differences are slight between the 4 years. Luckily I held on to my RS/Z28 FOR OVER 20 years now!!
3 years
As a previous owner, I just had to comment for the algorithm. Great video!
great video, very accurate. I learned a few things. love the music
Love learning about F Bodies. My forte was Trans Am, but I doubt I could be as concise. Thumb up.
I special ordered a 1973 Type LT Z/28 that had auto trans with column shift and no console. The LT emblems overrode Z/28 emblems so there was no outward indication that it was a Z/28. Only way to tell was the cowl tag.
Yes that is true. I have a friend who bought a brand new 73 lt z28. His is maroon with no stripes, lt badging all over the car, 4 speed no console chrome open element air cleaner. He still has it and it’s about 98 percent original including the paint and completely rust free.
I also ordered this arrangement but with close ratio 4sp.and 373 rear L82 350 Vette engine amazing car loved having it not much it wouldn't beat in a short race the turbo fire V8 was bullet proof.
Anyone no where to get 2nd gen parts needing some interior parts.
The wheels on a stock LT/Z28 was the only appearance difference on the exterior. 15" Z28 wheels was a dead giveaway you had a Z28.
I had a 69 ss I knew all the information on what the options for that year came with, your video was very informative thanks.
Best looking Camaro in HISTORY. I never owned a 1969. Had a 1967. Built the whole car for under $ 2,100 . I had it faster than any production Camaro released by Chevrolet.
One thing you forgot that is super critical for all the 2nd gen Camaro fans was 1973 Camaro's were a very special year. 73 is the only year you could get all 3 packages; RS/z28/Type LT. 1973 Camaro was the first year air conditioning came with the z28, you couldn't get air conditioning in the previous years with the z28 package. It was rare for someone to check box all 3 packages thus making that year with all 3 packages a Blue Chip Camaro. Very rare and I wish I had one. I have a 1973 Camaro RS/Type LT. Missing the z28 but oh well she is a blast to drive!
The 73 LT is a Model not a option.
I’m pretty sure the performance package designation took precedence over the appearance package designation to properly identify the Camaro...Z/28-RS...SS/RS...etc
The 73 has a Z28 option, I had one for 20 Yrs. The fifth digit in the vin would be a "T".
Had one too back in late 80's. 73 Z28 w /350 4 spd. Engine had replacement parts so I dropped a 500 horse engine in it.
if you own a RS camaro on the build sheet it says Z22 code meaning it has the RS option, Z22 is not stamped on the engine block or fender tags or in vin tag,even the 6 cylender camaros you could get the RS option
there are other difference that are not covered here. the 1970 car has a lot of unique parts for that year. the 12 bolt rear end was only available in 1970 on high performance cars. the 1970 sun visor was longer than the other years, and the side marker lights don't blink like other years. the steering wheels (with the exception of the 4 spoke) were unique to 1970. 71 and 72 SS steering wheel is unique. 70 and 71 deluxe interior and 72 and 73 deluxe interior door panels are different. the deluxe interior and standard interior windows mechanisms are different. dash bezels were different depending on the option package, U14 gauge package was different between years and models. 70 and 71 had 150mph speedo's and 72-79 had 130mph speedo's. the tach on base models and z28, ss350, ss396 350hp, ss396 375hp, 71 and 72 ss396 300 and 270 HP were all different. the divers side front fender is unique and so is the inner fender well. Big block cars and z28 all got HD cooling so the radiator core support and radiator hold down was different. small block and big block radiators were different and so is the fan shroud. the L78 375 396 was only available in 1970 had a unique dual snorkel air cleaner. the 1970 L34 SS 396 350hp had a unique open element air cleaner. the Z28 in 1970 -72 used the same dual snorkel air cleaner. 1971 and 72 SS 396 used 2 unique air cleaners, a single snorkel for cars with AC and a dual snorkel for cars with out AC. 73 Z28 used a unique open element air cleaner. F41 suspension was required on Z28 and SS396. the front are rear sway bars are different between Z28 and SS396. SS350 cars could also be ordered with F41 and also used different sway bars than z28 or SS396. gas tanks were different between 70, 71 and 72 and also depending on what what emissions control was on the cars 49state or California.
Great video! Very informative. It would have been nice if you also included the different engine, transmission, rear differential and suspension specs for each of these packages. Also, the big block engine offered in these cars was marketed as a 396, but it wasn't really a 396. It was actually a 402 cubic inch V8. FYI.
Noted
Appreciate that.....fun spotting the differences!
Nice vid. I wish I still had my 70 RS. Cranberry with a black vinyl top. Built the 350 in 76 after 100k & put a shift kit in the trans. Kept the AC.
Love that video!! Great help
Another giveaway for the 1973 are the big front rubber bumper gaurds . That come up an over the bumper.
I think that started with the 1974 Models.
@@johnbutz5631 agree
@@johnbutz5631 I owned a 73 Lt1. They had 2 vertical chrome with rubber running above and below the horizontal bumper.
Reason for the change? To avoid tapping parked cars with the point of the bumpers. A problem previous years owners complained about.
There are examples in this video. 5:08 ,5:19 ,I suggest you watch it again.
Well done with this video, loved it and enjoyed being tested on this era.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great information. I wondered about the differences and how that played with models and years. Now I can recognize these and speak with intelligence about them. I bought a normie hand me down from my Dad, but it was pretty cool to be 17 and be driving around a normie 1971 non RS non SS non Z28 Camaro. It still got looks, and honestly had plenty of power for me at the time. I top tuned it because it had a very tempermental 2bbl carburator and Thermostatic Coil choke that I was constantly messing around with to make it react instantly, but open fully. Finally I modded the carb, and put in a manual choke to make sure it was opening up all the way when it should. Nobody taught me how, I just did it. Because it was a normie model (a beautiful blue one that seemed to have a purplish tint at night) it had the pointy bumper and I remember I accidently hit a brick wall at low speed behind a gas station one day. It chipped a chunk out of the wall right at the sharp middle of the bumper, but it didn't scratch or dent the chrome bumper in the least. They don't make em like that anymore. I remember thinking at the time that it had too much smog crap on it, but I was glad I didn't have the 72 where it got even worse. I like the longbody 2nd generation cars, but I think the 1970 version, before the smog add-ons are best from a mechanical standpoint.Of course I guess you could just remove that stuff. I don't know why I didn't just tear it out, but I guess I was still happy with the performance. Mine was lower powered, but at least it was a V8 and it was heaven for a 17 year old boy. Databyter
Very informative! But as owner of a '72 RS Z28 I can inform you, that the front grid is not coarse mesh but the same as '70 and '71
So you have a RS front end?
@@jimmccune568 Yes, thats right (ST72 12487 N 2114008BDY, 1Q87LN157833, RS split bumper)
@@stephanamacker2855 1970 to 73 RS all had the same grille. Only the full bumper standard cars had different grilles.
Enjoyed this video, would like to see some
split screen comparison. I have owned a lot
of Z28s- 71/78/91/96/and now a 2000...
I will be checking out some of your other
Videos... 🚦🏎🏁...✌️
Very informative thank you for sharing your knowledge I did not know all that I've never owned but I have loved
Here is something that might interest someone: I had a '72 RS/SS 350 4-speed car with the custom deluxe interior (woodgrain door panels and padding $$$$ now). I decided to look for the build sheet and found it under the rear seat cushion. I carefully removed the springs and got it out. When I looked at it said the car was factory black with a 402 and a 4-speed! The VIN did not match so my interior had been swapped. Man, I've never seen a '72 402 4-speed car I wish I could have found the donor car.
Well done. If I was rich, I’d have one of each. 69 Z28/RS and also a ‘70 of the same, both in 302.
Sandy Milne 1970 Z/28 came with a 350 engine
Huntcliff: Thanks for clarifying that.
70 Z28 came with a LT1 350 360 horse motor.
Like to see the early second gens. Many more model differences. 70 -71 has 150 mph speedos, 72 -73 had 130 mph. 70 - 72 had the same console option. 73 used the Pontiac Firebird console and continued thru 81. 70 - 72 had two separate seat belts per front seat, one lap and one shoulder. 73 had one buckle that incorporates the lap and shoulder together which also has the seat belt hook at the headrest of the seat. 70 - 71 had fake stitching on interior side panels, 72 - 73 did not. I know 73 and maybe 72 had the "Fasten Seat Belt" light on the dash. The 1970 was the only one to have a 12 bolt axle option. In the 73 the clutch pedal was made smaller than previous years.
73 was the only year That had a 10 bolt rear end in a z-28. That's a fact Jack.
73 was the only year That had a 10 bolt rear end in a z-28. That's a fact Jack.
1970 was the only 2nd gen Camaro to have a factory 12 bolt option. 71 thru 81 all had 10 bolts only. So, other than 1970, all years of the 2nd gen Camaros that had a Z28 model would have had the 10 bolt. My name is not Jack, which means you were wrong twice in your comment.
@@williepelzer384 So wrong, the 71 started the 10 bolt only. That's a Fact!
They may look the same from the rear - but 70 had its own tail light lenses - different from later versions. Also the RS option had small metal rings around the inner portion of the lens
Great and very informative video. I learned a few things. Thanks!
Great video, well made. The plural of Camaro is Camaros, not Camaro's. You never add an apostrophe when making a word plural, never.
thank you. From the same sentence, I figured out another mistake.
Who knew?????😅
Second Gen Camaros and Firebirds look best IMO.
Great video. Thank you for making it.
Dit miss the 1973 only option for the front bumperguards (the ones with rubber inlays).
And i believe there are differences with the rear bumper guards.
None the less i will be watching this video often. 👍
Great content, informative and concise, thanks!
Great and nice video.
Precious information about my favorite car.
Thanks for your great effort 👍
Glad you liked it!
I was born in July of '72 and always wanted one of these LoL
I was born on Halloween 1971 and I own a 1971. 😎 When I bought mine it was titled incorrectly as a 72. After thorough research and fighting with the state of IL, I was finally able to get the car a new/corrected title.
One picture was not accurate. The 1970 model never came with the large 3 piece spoiler on the trunk lid. It came with the short one piece spoiler only.....
u are right on that it was close to the old camero look on the rear spoiler
Actually there were a handful of 70s that has the 3 piece spoiler, it was a pretty rare option
@@dduplechian u seem to know a lot about camaro's i have a question for u i got a 79 z28 rs t top with the full spoiler kit from factory . it is the first camaro i have seen with the full spoiler kit . do u know how rare it is because i was told from the guy i got it free from that it was a one of a kind car because of the spoiler kit . most people have know idea what i'm talking about on the spoiler kit
Sonny Dey Also some 73's were said to be 72's but clearly had the ugly 73 push bumpers added to the bumper.
Sonny Dey A fewactually did late in the year, but also 69 model year ran so far into 70, the 70 is sometimes referred to as a 70 1/2 Camaro.
I miss my 1967 Camaro 327 SS and 1968 Camaro SS 350 :(
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I have a 73 Z/28 since about 1990
GREAT VIDEO, NICE TOO REFRESH THE MEMORY.
Glad you enjoyed it
Own 73 z28 I knew some differences buddy owns 70z and other buddy has 70 RS and other friend has rs z28. Nice video love the 2nd gen
COOL....Always wondered why some had the split grille, always thought that was a model year change...
Very informative thank you very much
Thank you
That first one of the identification challenge is a 1972. It’s Mohave gold just like my 72 base, the only year they offered that color.
My 71 Z came factory with the short rear spoiler. Also no split bumper but had the two small vertical pieces.
My sister owned a 70 with 6 cyl auto on the steering column. I had a 70 with 350 Chevy used seats from 69 camaro,my buddy had 69. Seats and auto shifter were the same
That soundtrack is slammin..
(70 exterior mirror) (73 interior mirror)(70,71,72 seat belts vs 73) (rally wheels and hubcaps)
Thanks.
But, if the 1973 type lt had RS package, where would type lt badge go ?
I'VE OWNED A LOT OF OLD MUSCLE CARS BACK IN THE DAY,BUT ONLY ONE CAMARO 74THIRD GENERATION TYPE LT AND IT SHOCKED ME AS HOW MUCH POWER IT HAD,IT HAD BEEN DESMOGED,OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I CALL THEM!!!DON'T KNOW THE GEAR RATIO,BUT IT WAS A POSI UNIT!!!!!
Nicely done. Thanks for the video.
this was a great informing video, but the only questions i have is why did some of the camaros have lights right next to the headlights?
That is part of the RS package.
I knew all of this, thanks for an accurate history that I can pull up and show the nay sayers when they challenge me, lol.....GOOD WORK!!!
I know about the 1970-1972-1973 Camaro's. Because I had a 1970 SS/RS 396 Camaro.[ only 600 were made ] And I do know all of the differences. And it [1970] was the last high performance & high octane GM/Chevy cars.
I had a 70 Rs/Ss 350 auto yellow
Paid $600 bucks 1 owner
Over all condition
7.5-out-of-10
I Sold it for no reason at all for 8k
my 1970 1/2 z28 had the 71 high back buckets as did another one here in my town.
I also have a 1970 z do you have any parts for it left.
This was actually a super cool video. Thumbs up
I have a 71. Engine is a 327 head with a 350 bottom. Same engine since 1996. Its my every day rrr. I dont know how many miles is on it. I changes the plugs E40's. Every six months, warranty. Oil change every 3 months. Lucas oil. And i use Old school engine restore on every oil change. Knn air filter chamge every 6 months. ✌
Great vid if you mute the music
technicaly the RS (split bumper) is the Z22 code option,only way to find out if its a realy RS if you have the build sheet saying Z22 code option on it because its not stamped on the engine block,fender tags,vin tag
another great chevy camaro fun fact..if you have a 70 camaro with COPO 3 piece rear spoiler it was made after april of 1970,it wasnt a option til then
The Blue Camaro RS/Z28 from the 4:54 mark to the 5:00 minute mark is not a 1972 Camaro RS/Z28 as you have stated because it clearly has the "Tight Mesh Grill" that was only available on the 1970 & 1971 Camaro's. This is clearly a 1971 because it has the "high-back bucket seats" along with the "Tight Mesh Grill". - If it had the "Wide Mesh Grill" then it could have been a 1972. Just to let you know! No big deal!!!
I still own my 70 Z28 which I purchased in 1981 from the orig owner. The orig owner asked me if the car was for sale cause he wants it back and doesn’t want any other Z28. I told him it wasn’t for sale.
Excellent. I still have the 1971
Z/28 I purchased in 1983. I know how you feel.
Michael V when I was in College in ‘74 I drove a 1968 Z/28 with the gas guzzling 302. A friend of mine owns it today, British Green with white stripes and black interior. I still remember how hard the clutch pedal felt while driving it. It was fun back in those days on the street with maybe a handful of Cops being around.
@@johnmilner7603 . That was the high compression MA302 I think . Before the DZ302. That is a great car. Love the green with white stripes!The guy who rebuilt my Lt-1 in 1985 had a 1968 Z/28. Those are rare cars. Those were some fun days. Man I wish I had the set up I have now back in the 1980s. Coil overs, tubular A arms , full hotchkis set up. 4 wheel discs. And a whole list of goodies. If it wasn't a true Z/28 I would have put a LS motor in it. But I stayed old school with modern suspension and brakes.
68 to 71 Z/28s are my favorites
Michael V 1968 was the MO 302. My 70 is all stock except for a roller cam. I lost 2 solid lifter cams and the 2nd time I used the best oils with ZDDP and still lost a lobe after 8700 mi. I said F it, no more, I’m going roller. Have had my roller cam since 2012. My car came with the Muncie M20, even though I like the ratio better than the M21/M22 (same ratio), I replaced my M20 gears with M22 gears cause I love the whine of the M22 rock crusher.
@@johnmilner7603 . Thanks for the info MO. Got it. Ya I said f it on the solid lifter too. I went with a comp cam 280H and
Roller rockers. The inerds of the LT-1 are awesome guideplates, windage tray, 4 bolt. Steel crank. I loved helping go through it so I could learn. Ya I am partial to the 26 spline close ratio. But of course I would love a 6 speed. Back in the day it was the Doug nash 5 speed but I didn't have that kind of money. You had and have some great classic muscle cars.
The Z28 was not the only Camaro that came with hood and deck striping, I had a 70 SS That had them from the factory
No it did not. Maybe Dealer not factory.
My 70 camaro has different headrests and seat designs also
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my favorite car 1970 RS/SS
How about the rear deck spoiler options on these cars. I prefer the one that wraps around quarters. Which cars are identified by the different spoilers?
Isn't there a difference in tail lights also? 70s had a crome ring on inside?
RS or SS had a inner polished stainless ring halfway in. But the same lenses otherwise. Though the front markers on some photos I have seen, did have a stainless outer accent for a short time on some version. thought i saw that in my 70 assembly manual. Many rare things in the 70 year they deleted.