It does have one additional effect that wasn't shown in this video: There's a random chance that it will knock the ceiling down! If there are any Swoopers still attached to the ceiling when this happens, they'll let go and float down to normal flying height before the ceiling falls (and consequently smacks everyone on the head for 1 non-piercing damage).
I read that, and thought, “well duh, that’s obvious.” Then I saw the video, and you meant the BATTLE ceiling. Let’s be honest though, who would have thought to try that on the Swoopers, much less go back and fight them?
TeamOrchid yeah absolutely hated this move and never used it for this reason, it was like a reflex test, which is not good in the middle of an important battle
I decided to try out Spring Jumping into the ceiling in battle for myself, and I discovered a little additional effect that wasn't shown in this video: When you hit your head on the ceiling, there's a chance that the ceiling will fall down and deal 1 non-piercing damage to everyone. If there are any Swoopers still clinging to the ceiling when this happens, they'll let go and float down to regular flying height before it falls. Makes me wonder if you could also knock the ceiling down in the Crump battle...
I almost never use Spring Jump. Or the other one for that matter. I just use badges like Power Jump. Still mad that my sister sold our Game Cube. I haven't played this game in years.
@@grackleking6413 Trust me when I say that, as a kid, I thought the shadow would be a great indicator, but some battles have dark floors or fore-ground props that make it hard to see the shadow.
@@GrandmasterOshawott I honestly never have a problem with this move. I used it so often I figure out that watching the shadow and then looking above the enemy waiting for Mario to appear back on screen is key. I pay attention to this method so much it has become easy to use.
I actually remember first finding out about that ceiling thing when I tried using it against Rawk Hawk at some point many years ago. There are quite a few strange things about this move.
@@williamhrivnak7345 At that point he's so easy to beat I can't imagine him having enough HP left to do it after the ceiling enters. Or before the ceiling enters.
i prefer super (damn well dedicated the last 3 years of my life to it) but im so happy ttyd fans are finally getting their remake. some of yall deserve it! recently got a chance to play ttyd. haven’t beaten it yet but its definitely better balanced than my game, haha! trying to make a video essay on spm bosses and how to improve them rn
As a kid, I loved using the Spring Jump, trying to see where the flattened, falling Mario could reach after hitting a ceiling with the Spring Jump. I forgot Creepy Steeple had a ceiling. Wondering why the move that gets you to the ceiling can't target Swoopers. 3:09 & here I just thought the crowd just hated Mrs. Mowz because she was a thief or something! Or that slapping is a silly way to attack someone.
Oddity I found out about Spin Jump: the moment Mario gets up again from his butt he does a mini-jump. Many times i got a 1st hit cause enemy waked into it. You might wanna look into this as well, Koop, could be more to this "Spin Jump"
"hm, but what if i want to go back to creepy steeple 2 chapters later and use this enemy-crushing spring jump on a common boo while swoopers are hanging around??" -some weird tester/programmer idk
I thought the reason Love Slap didn't get much Star Power, even with Stylish, was because the audience for whatever reason hate the move, and boo Ms. Mowz when she uses it. Interesting.
Excellent vid. Hey Koop (or anybody else) -- is it common knowledge that you can use the Spring Jump in the moon base to avoid the slow game segment? You can get Mario to land on the platform and then pick everything up by walking into it. I was able to pull it off one time in about 10 minutes of trying, but I've never seen anybody else mention it.
I wonder if the 21 different speeds for Spring Jump is a glitch, or if Nintendo put that on purpose. I mean, probably they wanted to make the timing for Spring Jump to be harder than for other attacks. Or probably they wanted to make this attack to be different from others, since other attacks tend to have the same timing each time that you do them (isntead of Spring Jump's 21 different timings.)
I was thinking the same thing. But also, perhaps we're getting it mixed up with PM64? Mario can also do a first strike Super Boot and Ultra Boot animation that does heavy damage. And in TTYD the Spin Jump is used frequently for First Strike extra damage points.
I don't know if it's a glitch. Maybe the devs did this purposely as a balance; Spring Jump is a powerful jump move on its own with the most FP costs, so they probably figured you shouldn't gain a lot of SP by using the strongest main attack. Notice how Spring Jump has only 1 Stylish Animation while all other jumps (and badges) have 2 or more, and they provide a crap ton of SP. Even some attack badges have 1 Stylish animation, but they still give more SP because their FP use cost less.
Are you unable to go through the doors or progress story line with the freeze time thing? Also that’s crazy; I knew about hitting your head on the ceiling with spring jump, but I absolutely did not know that freezing aspects of the game was possible with spring jump in OG TTYD
Veil actually does have a Stylish move, but it’s only used once the enemy attacks. Press A as Vivian and Mario move back to their battle positions. I don’t think I found that out till I discovered Mario Wiki
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Spring Jumping into the ceiling should have a quake hammer effect on enemies attached to it.
It does have one additional effect that wasn't shown in this video: There's a random chance that it will knock the ceiling down! If there are any Swoopers still attached to the ceiling when this happens, they'll let go and float down to normal flying height before the ceiling falls (and consequently smacks everyone on the head for 1 non-piercing damage).
that or maybe if you hit something like rawk hawk's stage lights, _everything falls down_ even the meteor
I would've never known in a million years that ceilings stop spring jump
Jadeite McSwag Makes sense.
I read that, and thought, “well duh, that’s obvious.” Then I saw the video, and you meant the BATTLE ceiling. Let’s be honest though, who would have thought to try that on the Swoopers, much less go back and fight them?
21 speeds, so that's why I could never get the timing on that damn jump as a kid.
TeamOrchid yeah absolutely hated this move and never used it for this reason, it was like a reflex test, which is not good in the middle of an important battle
I always swore up and down when I was a kid that the timing changed jump to jump! guess I was right lol stylish moves were my life
I just watched the A button on screen and ignored Mario's position entirely. Worked fine.
It was easy for me once I realized you could tell Mario's position by looking at his shadow on the ground.
Quorthon1983 That’s true, but sometimes the foreground blocks the shadow. I still can’t get the timing down as an adult
At this point the only time I notice flavio is if he's not there
The swooper thing caught me by surprise. This game has been out for 15 years and I'm still learning new things about it!
Ikr. Tbh I didn't even know it had a stylish action.
@@tugsteve7594 All moves do. Use Timing Tutor!
@@Enaronia Timing Tutor isn't really helpful as it's really hard to see the little !. That's for me, at least.
Almost 20 now
I decided to try out Spring Jumping into the ceiling in battle for myself, and I discovered a little additional effect that wasn't shown in this video: When you hit your head on the ceiling, there's a chance that the ceiling will fall down and deal 1 non-piercing damage to everyone. If there are any Swoopers still clinging to the ceiling when this happens, they'll let go and float down to regular flying height before it falls. Makes me wonder if you could also knock the ceiling down in the Crump battle...
The fact that there are 21 variants of Spring Jump makes this attack so much worse. Unlike other attacks, timing is inconsistent.
I almost never use Spring Jump. Or the other one for that matter. I just use badges like Power Jump. Still mad that my sister sold our Game Cube. I haven't played this game in years.
Mario has a shadow
Just watch the shadow
@@grackleking6413 Trust me when I say that, as a kid, I thought the shadow would be a great indicator, but some battles have dark floors or fore-ground props that make it hard to see the shadow.
@@GrandmasterOshawott I honestly never have a problem with this move. I used it so often I figure out that watching the shadow and then looking above the enemy waiting for Mario to appear back on screen is key. I pay attention to this method so much it has become easy to use.
This is like Rare Oddities but for Paper Mario.
I actually remember first finding out about that ceiling thing when I tried using it against Rawk Hawk at some point many years ago. There are quite a few strange things about this move.
How did you use it against rawk hawk if you don't get the ultra boots until chapter 6
@@DomJane I was battling Rawk Hawk after Chapter 6.
LORD DOMINATOR As mentioned in the video, you can re-enter the Glitz Pit League after getting the third star and just battle for the fun of it
@@williamhrivnak7345 At that point he's so easy to beat I can't imagine him having enough HP left to do it after the ceiling enters. Or before the ceiling enters.
That ceiling one is such a cool tiny detail!!!
(I appreciate Mario taking a crap for the final moments)
the true potential of The World
CrimsonDragonEX I will never escape JoJo well thankfully I’m a big jojo fan.
Cringe.
Pretty sure this is all because of Flavio.... God-Emperor of Paper Mario.
Haha just in time for *spring*
I’ll see myself out
What a beautiful ending
This is why Spin Jump is my favorite of the three Jump Default Attacks. But its cool that using Spring Jump in battles with ceilings don’t work.
i prefer super (damn well dedicated the last 3 years of my life to it) but im so happy ttyd fans are finally getting their remake. some of yall deserve it! recently got a chance to play ttyd. haven’t beaten it yet but its definitely better balanced than my game, haha! trying to make a video essay on spm bosses and how to improve them rn
It seems that The World and Spring Jump are similar types of Stands
Alexander Harrison Oh jeez Jotaro is going to gain another stand power now it’s Star Platinum The World Spring Jump.
Cringe.
@@joshshrum2764 Cringe.
Never tried to spring jump when there was a ceiling... That's cool
Sound seems to be coming only from the left side in this video.
oops
The game does think Mario is all the way over there in the middle of a tattle...
@@Koopatrol yOU a boy
My right earbud is broken so I didn't even know lol
I like how Mario is pooping at the end but it bounces him up
As a kid, I loved using the Spring Jump, trying to see where the flattened, falling Mario could reach after hitting a ceiling with the Spring Jump.
I forgot Creepy Steeple had a ceiling. Wondering why the move that gets you to the ceiling can't target Swoopers.
3:09 & here I just thought the crowd just hated Mrs. Mowz because she was a thief or something! Or that slapping is a silly way to attack someone.
Weird, never thought about spring jumping into ceiling being an issue, and the time freeze is amazing
Gotta say I always hated spring jump cause I felt the timing varied, good to know they gave this damn move 21 TIMING VARIATIONS
Paper Mario: ZA WARUDO!
Cringe.
That crouch on the toilet in the prison cell is perfection
cool stuff, i really enjoy these types of videos
It would've been cooler if when you Spring Jump an Enemy you do the Spring Jump move instead of the normal jump
I really thought you could first strike with a spring jump for years, and that I just wasn’t doing right.
mario toilet minigame is my favorite
Always interested to see these oddities. Nice work!
Oddity I found out about Spin Jump: the moment Mario gets up again from his butt he does a mini-jump. Many times i got a 1st hit cause enemy waked into it. You might wanna look into this as well, Koop, could be more to this "Spin Jump"
I think a lot of players already know about this, myself included.
"hm, but what if i want to go back to creepy steeple 2 chapters later and use this enemy-crushing spring jump on a common boo while swoopers are hanging around??" -some weird tester/programmer idk
My left ear really enjoys this video
Aww, I thought you were actually going to do an exploit or glitch in Peach’s bathroom... Great video though!
0:22
F for Flavio :'(
Learning something new every day e.g. the different speeds for the Spring Jump. I wonder why they did that?
I thought the reason Love Slap didn't get much Star Power, even with Stylish, was because the audience for whatever reason hate the move, and boo Ms. Mowz when she uses it.
Interesting.
They fixed the Stylish oversight in the remake.
left ear loving this
Excellent vid. Hey Koop (or anybody else) -- is it common knowledge that you can use the Spring Jump in the moon base to avoid the slow game segment? You can get Mario to land on the platform and then pick everything up by walking into it. I was able to pull it off one time in about 10 minutes of trying, but I've never seen anybody else mention it.
0:09 ZA WADURO
Cringe.
I wonder if the 21 different speeds for Spring Jump is a glitch, or if Nintendo put that on purpose. I mean, probably they wanted to make the timing for Spring Jump to be harder than for other attacks. Or probably they wanted to make this attack to be different from others, since other attacks tend to have the same timing each time that you do them (isntead of Spring Jump's 21 different timings.)
Dat toilet ending
Heh, Koop made Mario Poop at the end. Pooper Mario.
Wha i had no idea you hit the ceiling with the boots in a fight!
Za Spring Jumpo, toki wo tomare!
Cringe.
awesome video!
i remember being able to First Strike enemies from below with the Spring Jump, can anyone confirm?
Probably getting the behavior of SPM Luigi's spring jump doing damage from below in that game mixed up.
I recall being able to do it if you activate the first part right next to an enemy. Worth a test.
I was thinking the same thing. But also, perhaps we're getting it mixed up with PM64? Mario can also do a first strike Super Boot and Ultra Boot animation that does heavy damage.
And in TTYD the Spin Jump is used frequently for First Strike extra damage points.
Definitely using The World exploit next time I play
Spring jump seems like a glitch in the counter that tells the game how much SP you have. It doesn't go past a quarter of a circle if you have no SP.
I don't know if it's a glitch. Maybe the devs did this purposely as a balance; Spring Jump is a powerful jump move on its own with the most FP costs, so they probably figured you shouldn't gain a lot of SP by using the strongest main attack. Notice how Spring Jump has only 1 Stylish Animation while all other jumps (and badges) have 2 or more, and they provide a crap ton of SP. Even some attack badges have 1 Stylish animation, but they still give more SP because their FP use cost less.
@@Aaaa-g6u8e I thought Spin Jump only had 1 stylish.
Appreciate it but this is pretty *puzzle piece* for 2020
never realised that mario was dio all along...
Cringe.
Mario: ZA WARUDOOOO-A
*insert time stopping sound*
Cringe.
@@PerfectAzrael Cringe
@@zombies5100 Jojo trash.
@@PerfectAzrael If you say so
Funny that they use spring jump four luigi
There's 21 speeds? I always thought it was how far away the enemy was in battle, that's so strange
atómic boo
I rarely get the timing right for the action command on this thing
I know this channel is all about paper Mario. But would it be possible to spread out to other games? This is so fun
I love your videos so much, I'd love it if you did a voice over!!!
**Insert Pizza Tower Superjump joke here**
Mario is taking a sh-
Are you unable to go through the doors or progress story line with the freeze time thing? Also that’s crazy; I knew about hitting your head on the ceiling with spring jump, but I absolutely did not know that freezing aspects of the game was possible with spring jump in OG TTYD
So you can first strike with ultra spin but not spring jump
4:05 me when im pooping
Tf is flavio doin there
audio is just in the left ear. Good vid just thought you should know
for parts
0:09 ZA WARUDO
Cringe.
I have no idea whats going on
My right ear didn't like this
Are there any other moves in TTYD that don't give additional SP for landing the Stylish move, aside from Veil I believe?
Sharlion Regoro Love Slap I believe
Cloudycanine Oh yeah, that one too
@@cloudycanine9682 I rarely used love slap because I was scared my joystick would break from it 😂
Veil actually does have a Stylish move, but it’s only used once the enemy attacks. Press A as Vivian and Mario move back to their battle positions. I don’t think I found that out till I discovered Mario Wiki
I see you were using the flavio glitch?
Could the spring jump time stop be used in a any categories of speedrun?
also, does the ceiling work if you hacked in other enemies into the Rawk Hawk battle?
You can just use Quake Hammer or a POW block to knock him down, then do it.
So what happens when you use the spring jump after knocking Rawk Hawk off the ceiling? Do you still smack into it?
what a hell?!
this game make less sense everyday that past
ive never used spring jump in battle. seems like an annoying time
Here at 4.27k, here before 100k 😎
OH MY GOD MONO AUDIO AGH, PLEASE NEVER DO THIS
Just watch on your phone with no headphones and you'll never know
@@bigballoftape5343 I don't have speakers, and my phone is a piece of shit.
Janky hack, mate