@NinjaRunningWild BFOSS has been around for months as of my time in writing this 28JUN2024. However, ATSR has never been confirmed to exist. So if you're somebody to someone I would Edit that comment to protect your pets from Alphabets that may be concerned with how you know about that. I'll see myself out.
@@wolfbehemoth13 LOL. Can't say that really sounds like the worst thing though. Honestly would be nice if in some of these categories there is a little more practical and a little less advanced. Being told you can't get Basic 782 Gear issued at your command or funding shortfalls stopping personnel from being able to train together in the field as a Unit; followed by all the hype in the media about everyone else in the world getting what they need can make morale and cohesion suffer. Any number of circumstances and rationale case by case to go with that statement I made. But at its core, generally speaking it really kicks a Service Member in the dick when they aren't equipped by their Country but so many others are equipped by the same country that wouldn't take care of their own. Now Yall can go into the Geo-Ally-Partnerizations that I fully understand, but I'll say it everytime for the sake of those I Lead. Give me my results, not excuses. Manage my statements all you want on your keyboard rifle range with the All-CONUS mindset that effects too many people anymore. For those that live in reality and seen highs and lows over 20 years time; going to take a whole lot of talking to make me back off that box. To have a Leader that will not sacrifice keeping it Simple for waht could potentially waste Billions of Dollars I salute that. Don't budge that bottom line for your military if you genuinely expect them to also hold that same line on their day of days. R/ MuffinMan
Is there such a thing as a stealth cargo jet? I mean we have stealth bombers; how hard would a stealth short take off and landing heavy lift jet be? I could see it being used to deliver supplies and equipment and personnel to remote secret bases that nobody wants to acknowledge exists, or getting supplies to people in areas that might be considered contested airspace. It could also be used to deliver things like “Rapid Dragon” in dangerous airspace, or perhaps even air refueling. Anything that might be considered a compromised configuration (basically limiting the time of exposure and danger).
It's Na vada not Na vad a. Tikaboo Peak and all the other mountains that gave the public the ability to see Groom Lake have been acquired by the government years ago. And they are called scoot and hide. The F 117 was developed at Groom Lake but lived at the Tonopah Test Range in Tonopah Nevada. There is now a experimental hypersonic testing facility at the Tonopah airport. Another interesting aircraft that was tested at Groom Lake was the Bird of Prey. Images were released to the public years ago. I've seen some odd things in the sky north of me. One was a couple of bright blue circles of light the color of afterburners but hundreds of times larger. First there was one and it winked out and another or the same one appeared in a different spot before also winking out. That was many years ago. On a couple of rare occasions I saw a bright blue beam of light going straight up. That was also many years ago. Also many years ago a wind farm was planned on public land north of me and the government wouldn't let it be built. I wondered why. The only thing I could think of was that Groom Lake had acoustic sensors somewhere. Groom Lake is 60 miles north east of us. You can watch the Janet aircraft on Flight Radar 24 come out of Vegas and turn at Mercury Nevada then go dark when they turn off their civilian transponders. The Janet aircraft are a common sight at the Vegas airport and in the sky around Vegas. Lots of unique and interesting things happen around here.
Hm, I bet IR LEDs could be leveraged into an absolutely wonderful tool for leaving imprints of things like dragons on the tarmac, without moving anything except what had been on top of that LED array. They could even play with the minds of the observing nations. Nation1 gets a picture of Baba yaga's hut then moments later nation 2 gets a picture of two copulating dragons. And so forth ad nauseam. {^_^}
I can definitely see the engineers playing games with each other. Years ago i recall a story where engineers painted a huge radar dish with a giant smily face so it would be seen by soviet photo sats.
I love how if you look at silicon wafers you'll find microscopic drawings for the same purpose... Gotra love how humans cant help but add a little humor or marking
RUclips, doing something good occasionally, is pushing the jump ahead feature out rn on android. As much as I hate youtube at a buisness and political level as they blatantly cave to authoritarian pressures and even willing carry that water... I pay for premium because I can afford to and the creators need the work to be supported somehow
5:20 - With a bunch of friends, we got a peek into Groom Lake, from a closer ridge, only months before that area was annexed into Area 51, only a few months later, in 1993.
The problem with that is spy satellites can see any location on earth, and large top secret planes that require a runway for testing and protected facilities, can't just hide anywhere. There are supposedly other secret sites similar to Area 51 that might exist, but they are likely all known by our adversaries.
@@user-kl3lg7tf3n-anx1ous 227kg capacity isn't enough to refuel a spy satellite? Seriously? The spy satellites we were putting up in the in the 90's were 6-12 tons, so ~200kg of fuel would go a long way.
They do NOT tell anyone anything. I worked ARMY and I still don’t know several secrets that were common day things. We had two tasks 1) Keep the lights on 2) Keep the toilets 🚽 flushing.
My uncle worked at 3m. Apparently, you needed security clearances for some jobs, and he swore to me he had 0 answers he never knew why or any program it might be used on nothing he never knew shit
I dont really care what they're developing there. I just want to know what kind of sensors they use to know when people try to walk into the place from the desert lol.🤷♀️
@@TLDE.0 I mean, I'm sure there's some of that. But I know a little about this kind of stuff and the lengths of wire would be so long it would be really, really difficult to make them work due to voltage drops. But given what they do at the place, I'm sure they have problems like that figured out. I'd think simple motion detectors wouldn't work, tons of coyotes and rabbits etc. would be causing constant false alarms.
reminds me of the story about the Marines that tricked a DARPA AI robot from detecting them by either doing only summersaults for 300 meters, or hiding under cardboard boxes to get closer to it... simple, not stupid. Oooo Raaaahhh
If you haven't already read, I highly recommend "Skunk Works: A Personal Memoir of My Years at Lockheed" by Ben Rich (immediate successor to Kelly Johnson).
there are some leaked reports which confirm that Alex Hollings is actually one of the survivors of the UFO that was shot down near Roswell in 1948... 😜
I've got news for you, the really secret stuff has likely, for some time, been happening at the Woomera test range in South Australia - the worlds largest aerial test range. A few years ago the Chinese tried to buy a parcel of Stations (big ranches) owned by an agricultural company, because one of them sat right next to Woomera. They were not allowed to make the purchase. Secrecy at Woomera is unsurpassed, given it's remote location and extremely sparse local population distribution.
Interesting, there’s a scheme of shell businesses (suspect to be linked to China) that have been buying up hundreds of millions of dollars of land around certain US bases as well - most notably Edward’s AFB which is a very significant US base. Unfortunately because these mysterious businesses are founded in the US state of Delaware their actual owners are unknown due to Delaware’s laws shielding such information. This leads to a phenomenon were a small building is listed as the headquarters for hundreds of companies but inside it’s simply a mailbox for each one.
Gordon Cooper was one of the original Mercury 7. He was the last of them to fly, later (also) flying on Gemini 5 in 1965. He was also a semi-pro photographer. He was able to take a 35 mm camera with some good lenses up with him. When he landed, after Gemini 5, it took him a while to get his camera and film back. Seems he'd managed to snap the best, clearest pictures of Area 51 to that date. He explains this in "Leap of Faith," published in 2000.
My friend retired working the control tower at LAX. He got his start for the Air Force. His last assignment was Edwards AFB. Every month he had to do a stint working the tower at Area 51.
@@brianSalem541 I didn't ask because I know he could not tell. He did say the super secret stuff used the base in the Nevada nuke test site. Google earth it and you can see it.
@@brianSalem541 It's hard enough to convince human pilots to take directions from ATC, what do you think the odds are that a super advanced race of beings would listen to them? 🤣
I met a Major General many years ago and he said Area-51 have deep underground tunnels - there are mag lev trains that start at Edwards , Nellis , S/4 , Area-51 , 52 ... and beyond . There is a tunnel for employees from Janet terminal to the Luxor then it runs under the hotels then to Area-51
This is my favorite channel because the company I work for has products going to NGAD, F35, HERMEUS, SpaceX, and many other private space launches. I really like seeing positive articles about these companies developments before the mainstream media gets involved and starts complaining.
Greetings from Cheyenne Mountain. The new Area 51/52 is the all new massively expanded Cheyenne Mountain Space Force Station, formerly known as as NORAD which has moved to building one basement bunker at near by Peterson Air/Space Force Base. New within, above and below infrastructure in every category.
I knew a pilot with South West Airlines who told me he would make flights from Los Vegas into Area 51 every so often. He never knew about the number of passengers or the cargo he might be carrying.
Would have been interesting to hear you tell the F117 origins story at the end, the last known black project produced by Groom Lake, June 18th 1981 first flight by Bill Park who was a successful property developer on the side but enjoyed his TOP SECRET work at 51!❤ Crashed and was badly injured, however less than a year later the first Production F117A was delivered🔥💪 A member of the RAF🇬🇧 (My Team) was selected as part of our special relationship to fly a Nighthawk from the very start 🚀
No. In 2001 the US would not allow Air Guard aircraft to be armed. They were not* even allowed to posses any weapons or ammunition. And they were tasked with protecting the capital.
Hi Justin: Good info. I figured if they weren't armed it had to be something along the lines of what you explained. Just like a firearm without ammo., it's pretty much useless unless it's used as a bludgeoning device. Which is exactly what they were trying to use those F-16's for. Thanks for the info.
Infrared images are made by temperature differences on a surface leaving a silhouette. Even if the surfaces are hosed down, it won't cool down at the same rate and can be picked up by IR camera. I am not sure hosing down is as effective as cardboard fake planes and other methods
it might work if they weren't in the middle of a desert. Alternately, they could hose it down with toilet water, but I doubt the staff would particularly love that. Seems like a tarp is simpler
Instead of doing all that cardboard shit and heater stuff, they could just sprayed water on the floor. like extremely cold water. or some type of liquid nitro or something and "erased" or muddy up the silhouette. Correct me if im wrong.
How did the contractors produce that much concrete? Was all that water available underground or was all that water transported in? (A logistical challenge since a pipeline is too public a thing to build)
There are fairly large aquifers under most of Nevada. One of the worries with placing a nuclear waste repository at Yucca Mountain, which is near Area 51, was that if any of it were to leak there is a potential for it to contaminate the aquifer under Amargosa Valley, which has about 1400 or so people using it.
You know what would be great...if the engineers make some cardboard silhouettes of some flying saucers and other exotic craft and leave them in the opening for the adversaries satellites to catch photos of...that would drive them crazy ...it will keep them guessing like it's a pop quiz😂😂😂
Lockheed Skunkworks built the SR-72 for Top Gun Maverick. This aircraft sitting outside their hangar resulted in at least one spy satellite re-directing it's orbit... permanently.
While you're looking at area 51 on Google maps and putting yourself on a watchlist, browse around a little south and west of Groom Lake and see if you can spot all the nuclear test craters. There's a lot. Like, "how is Las Vegas still habitable" a lot.😮
At the beginning of July 1947 the incident at Roswell happened. Before the year ended the - USAF CIA EG&G all came into being. The history of Area 51 is about more than high performance aircraft.
Thanks Alex. If we can play "silly buggers" with regards to soviet/Russia surveillance surely they can do the same to us? Some "men" do that with latex dolls. I assume they are only fooling themselves though...
Hi, I hope you are doing fine. I have two questions for you. First, why did the cost of design of B - 29 far exceed the cost of the Manhattan Project, when it was just a piston engine aircraft? Another question is, do you know some pilots, who had flown both B- 29 and B -747 in their entire aviation career?
why do America have area 51 when there advanced jets use superior Russian vtol/stovl thrust vectoring technology, can you imagine Russia's area 51 with space-stations and closed cycle rockets su.57.
Man, I would almost want to just go over there and sit outside and listen to the aircraft takeoff in land. Because at the end of the day, it’s an Air Force Base just like every other Air Force Base so there will be aircraft leaving and coming to the facility all the time. I wouldn’t care what they look like or how cool they would be. I just would like to hear them. I also created an audio drama, where part of it is actually based in area 51 latter part of the first half and part of the second half and of course, you know the folklore about the aliens and stuff. Well that’s there but instead of just focusing on that this time, I figured why not make it more realistic interpretation of that it is primarily an Air Force Base so they’ll be testing new aircraft. so there are scenes where fighters are taking off in landing.
I will get roasted in the comments here, but I remember when Google Earth first was released. After hearing about S4 from an interview with Bob Lazar when I was still a young adult, I looked up Papoose Lake and there was a distinguishable rectangular outlining of "bushes" into the south side of the mountain where even today car tracks leading to the area are noticeable. That image is no long exists (even using the Google Earth's historic image capability) It has been removed. To this day, I am convinced there is a massive underground structure in that mountain.
Excellent presentation Alex! Dreamland does have many, many secrets too. The book "Area 51 - Images of Aviation" by Peter Merlin doesn't hide anything. This excellent collection of historic photos taken not from above but from within the facility provides context to the incredible past of aviation development and to the future security of our nation that Dreamland has contributed to.
The Right might have not reported as much on the story of Lieutenant General Marc Sasseville and Heather Penney, is the fact that most of us would have done the same.
Alert aircraft with no A/A armament? Dude.. I'd love one more example of intercept aircraft sent up unarmed. Not to be argumentative, but this fact doesn't pass the litmus test.
Wouldn't it be good to have a runway under a runway?. Then you can have everything "secret" underground, and if they need to test them, they have a run way to take off and at the other end is a big arse slanted door that opens up, fly out and fly off. It would cost a lot of money, but they've wasted billions before now on stupid things that haven't seen day light 🤷🏻♂️
Although i enjoy your videos and respect your thoroughness, I wish we didn't have to endure a history of Area 51 from the beginning before getting to the point of the video; "How Area 51 hides its secrets from the world". I find this the case with most of your videos. Any video about stealth inevitably start with a long drawn out history of stealth from the beginning of time. It is frustrating for me. Just a suggestion, cut down on the history and get to the point of the video.
There wasn't time to load missiles so they launched without them.... Lol seriously lol my goodness this is such a joke. What value do you bring if this is what you think your audience is going to believe?
This is why i dont buy into the we dont have the aroura aircraft back in the early 90 and 80s satellites are constantly monitored we and other countries no the time of satilites and orbits which would be beneficial for other airborne assets....even highly classified lighter than air assets and im not rslking about your average blimp or balloon 3d printed meta material istremely high altitude sky spies and even explaine some of these uap sighting delta shaped lighter than air vehicle to early warning missile defense....
lol taking a page out of operation quicksilver. i hope they keep putting out those mockups of some crazy nonsensical but expensive looking projects out on the tarmac.
I was doing Annual Training at Fort Polk, Louisiana last year and the days before we headed back to my unit in Texas we had to take our vehicles to the yard and get them hooked onto the civilians 18 wheelers so they could get taken back for us I had met a gentleman named Micheal. We were talking about our careers and I asked how he liked being a contractor for the Military. One of the things brought up is the places he’s gone. He pulls out his phone and shows me a pic of his truck load it’s a destroyed Russian jet and he was taking it to Area 51. Of course in the pic he was miles away from it but on the way he stopped to get pic.
Advanced "big roof over secret stuff" stealth tech
Advanced tactical stealth roof.
@NinjaRunningWild BFOSS has been around for months as of my time in writing this 28JUN2024. However, ATSR has never been confirmed to exist.
So if you're somebody to someone I would Edit that comment to protect your pets from Alphabets that may be concerned with how you know about that.
I'll see myself out.
- KGB furiously taking notes on advanced shed knowing Putin will call it too crazy and expensive. -
@@wolfbehemoth13 LOL.
Can't say that really sounds like the worst thing though.
Honestly would be nice if in some of these categories there is a little more practical and a little less advanced.
Being told you can't get Basic 782 Gear issued at your command or funding shortfalls stopping personnel from being able to train together in the field as a Unit; followed by all the hype in the media about everyone else in the world getting what they need can make morale and cohesion suffer.
Any number of circumstances and rationale case by case to go with that statement I made. But at its core, generally speaking it really kicks a Service Member in the dick when they aren't equipped by their Country but so many others are equipped by the same country that wouldn't take care of their own.
Now Yall can go into the Geo-Ally-Partnerizations that I fully understand, but I'll say it everytime for the sake of those I Lead. Give me my results, not excuses.
Manage my statements all you want on your keyboard rifle range with the All-CONUS mindset that effects too many people anymore.
For those that live in reality and seen highs and lows over 20 years time; going to take a whole lot of talking to make me back off that box.
To have a Leader that will not sacrifice keeping it Simple for waht could potentially waste Billions of Dollars I salute that. Don't budge that bottom line for your military if you genuinely expect them to also hold that same line on their day of days.
R/
MuffinMan
“Enemies hate this one easy trick!”
i read a book about 20 years ago called "Travels in Dreamland" that effectively had the same content
That 9/11 story is extremely heart wrenching when you hear the full version.
Is there such a thing as a stealth cargo jet? I mean we have stealth bombers; how hard would a stealth short take off and landing heavy lift jet be? I could see it being used to deliver supplies and equipment and personnel to remote secret bases that nobody wants to acknowledge exists, or getting supplies to people in areas that might be considered contested airspace. It could also be used to deliver things like “Rapid Dragon” in dangerous airspace, or perhaps even air refueling. Anything that might be considered a compromised configuration (basically limiting the time of exposure and danger).
Satellite orbits are known, and therefore relatively easy to avoid if you wish to do so.
Area 51 is not the secret base... The Dougway Proving Grounds in Utah is.
The first A12 prototypes flew in 1958/59....
Alex, that's Murphy's first law of combat. If it's stupid but it works, ITS NOT STUPID.
It's Na vada not Na vad a. Tikaboo Peak and all the other mountains that gave the public the ability to see Groom Lake have been acquired by the government years ago. And they are called scoot and hide. The F 117 was developed at Groom Lake but lived at the Tonopah Test Range in Tonopah Nevada. There is now a experimental hypersonic testing facility at the Tonopah airport. Another interesting aircraft that was tested at Groom Lake was the Bird of Prey. Images were released to the public years ago. I've seen some odd things in the sky north of me. One was a couple of bright blue circles of light the color of afterburners but hundreds of times larger. First there was one and it winked out and another or the same one appeared in a different spot before also winking out. That was many years ago. On a couple of rare occasions I saw a bright blue beam of light going straight up. That was also many years ago. Also many years ago a wind farm was planned on public land north of me and the government wouldn't let it be built. I wondered why. The only thing I could think of was that Groom Lake had acoustic sensors somewhere. Groom Lake is 60 miles north east of us. You can watch the Janet aircraft on Flight Radar 24 come out of Vegas and turn at Mercury Nevada then go dark when they turn off their civilian transponders. The Janet aircraft are a common sight at the Vegas airport and in the sky around Vegas. Lots of unique and interesting things happen around here.
My take away is Aliens are watching ground news as they build tech for the military
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Hm, I bet IR LEDs could be leveraged into an absolutely wonderful tool for leaving imprints of things like dragons on the tarmac, without moving anything except what had been on top of that LED array. They could even play with the minds of the observing nations. Nation1 gets a picture of Baba yaga's hut then moments later nation 2 gets a picture of two copulating dragons. And so forth ad nauseam.
{^_^}
How many times do you think someone tried to build a cardboard USS Enterprise?
I've always known it as "if it's stupid, but it works, it ain't stupid".
f it's stupid but it works, it's still stupid but it worked this time.
Yep definitely in south merricaaa
Be honest
I can definitely see the engineers playing games with each other. Years ago i recall a story where engineers painted a huge radar dish with a giant smily face so it would be seen by soviet photo sats.
They should of painted the middle finger instead.
tried to find that online but no luck
@@sereuno5343 it was a story about a defense department radio telescope being turned over for civilian use. I think it was in the Carolina s.
It is known that Area 51 do occasionally place futuristic looking dummies out on the tarmac, for the benefit of Russian and Chinese satellites....
I love how if you look at silicon wafers you'll find microscopic drawings for the same purpose... Gotra love how humans cant help but add a little humor or marking
4:15 to skip the ad
Thanks, so anoying
God bless you homie😂🙏
Saint
RUclips, doing something good occasionally, is pushing the jump ahead feature out rn on android. As much as I hate youtube at a buisness and political level as they blatantly cave to authoritarian pressures and even willing carry that water... I pay for premium because I can afford to and the creators need the work to be supported somehow
If you appreciate Alex's content, don't tell people to skip it. Doing the work he does to deliver such high-quality content costs money.
As a former alien, I find this video accurate.
5:20 - With a bunch of friends, we got a peek into Groom Lake, from a closer ridge, only months before that area was annexed into Area 51, only a few months later, in 1993.
Area 51 is so well known that we put the really secret stuff in some other location.
TTR
@@major__kongwhat's ttr???please inform me?
@@major__kong You can almost walk right up to TTR.
The problem with that is spy satellites can see any location on earth, and large top secret planes that require a runway for testing and protected facilities, can't just hide anywhere. There are supposedly other secret sites similar to Area 51 that might exist, but they are likely all known by our adversaries.
Area 52
Alex
I'm a 22 yrs US Navy Retired 3 tours Viet Nam Veteran ( Swift Boats & MSC's ) .
I really appreciate , & like all your videos. on your channel.
This video earned an official RUclips topical context information panel referencing the Area 51 wiki article, nice
"With no way to refuel satellites..."
X-37 is too small to be a refueling platform (and its missions last anywhere from 1-2 years).
@@user-kl3lg7tf3n-anx1ous 227kg capacity isn't enough to refuel a spy satellite? Seriously? The spy satellites we were putting up in the in the 90's were 6-12 tons, so ~200kg of fuel would go a long way.
It's not carrying fuel that is the problem.
Satellites have not been designed to be refueled.
@piotrd.4850 don't be so sure it doesn't use alternative fuels
You deserve way more subscribers. Info and production quality alone should be enough, and you give way more than that. Great job man.
I feel I have to take this opportunity to remind you of the XB-70 Valkyrie which flew at 3 times the speed of sound in the 1950s.
First flew in 64 but well worth the reminder
I own a piece of 20207
They do NOT tell anyone anything. I worked ARMY and I still don’t know several secrets that were common day things. We had two tasks 1) Keep the lights on 2) Keep the toilets 🚽 flushing.
My uncle worked at 3m. Apparently, you needed security clearances for some jobs, and he swore to me he had 0 answers he never knew why or any program it might be used on nothing he never knew shit
I dont really care what they're developing there. I just want to know what kind of sensors they use to know when people try to walk into the place from the desert lol.🤷♀️
@@TLDE.0 I mean, I'm sure there's some of that. But I know a little about this kind of stuff and the lengths of wire would be so long it would be really, really difficult to make them work due to voltage drops. But given what they do at the place, I'm sure they have problems like that figured out.
I'd think simple motion detectors wouldn't work, tons of coyotes and rabbits etc. would be causing constant false alarms.
Infered cameras is my guess
It's been fixed satellite with wide spectrum imaging and AI image / targeting analysis for decades now.
@@LittleBigMediaCo They are not tracking trespassers on foot by satellite.
@@dpelpalif I had to guess a mixture of things. Drones, infrared cameras, people on the ground
reminds me of the story about the Marines that tricked a DARPA AI robot from detecting them by either doing only summersaults for 300 meters, or hiding under cardboard boxes to get closer to it... simple, not stupid. Oooo Raaaahhh
You forgot about the underground part, that takes advantage of the mines around those mountains. There’s also S4…
If you haven't already read, I highly recommend "Skunk Works: A Personal Memoir of My Years at Lockheed" by Ben Rich (immediate successor to Kelly Johnson).
Some say Alex Hollings is based out of area 51 🤯
Some say Alex's beard is actually a high-freq antenna array that projects a mind control device through your smart phone.
(Sorry Alex. Just kidding😊)
I wouldn't be surprised. 😉
Dah look at the “background “ of his “studio”. Of course it is something like Area 51.
@@ejt3708He's still gonna melt you with his beardtenna
there are some leaked reports which confirm that Alex Hollings is actually one of the survivors of the UFO that was shot down near Roswell in 1948... 😜
I've got news for you, the really secret stuff has likely, for some time, been happening at the Woomera test range in South Australia - the worlds largest aerial test range. A few years ago the Chinese tried to buy a parcel of Stations (big ranches) owned by an agricultural company, because one of them sat right next to Woomera. They were not allowed to make the purchase.
Secrecy at Woomera is unsurpassed, given it's remote location and extremely sparse local population distribution.
You can drive through the Woomera range.....
Interesting, there’s a scheme of shell businesses (suspect to be linked to China) that have been buying up hundreds of millions of dollars of land around certain US bases as well - most notably Edward’s AFB which is a very significant US base.
Unfortunately because these mysterious businesses are founded in the US state of Delaware their actual owners are unknown due to Delaware’s laws shielding such information. This leads to a phenomenon were a small building is listed as the headquarters for hundreds of companies but inside it’s simply a mailbox for each one.
“If it works, it isn’t stupid”. Great quote. Thanks, Alex!
The way I've heard it is a bit longer: If it's stupid and it works, then it ain't stupid.
Gordon Cooper was one of the original Mercury 7. He was the last of them to fly, later (also) flying on Gemini 5 in 1965. He was also a semi-pro photographer. He was able to take a 35 mm camera with some good lenses up with him. When he landed, after Gemini 5, it took him a while to get his camera and film back. Seems he'd managed to snap the best, clearest pictures of Area 51 to that date. He explains this in "Leap of Faith," published in 2000.
My friend retired working the control tower at LAX. He got his start for the Air Force. His last assignment was Edwards AFB. Every month he had to do a stint working the tower at Area 51.
Was he directing UFO traffic at Area 51?
@@brianSalem541 I didn't ask because I know he could not tell. He did say the super secret stuff used the base in the Nevada nuke test site. Google earth it and you can see it.
@@brianSalem541 It's hard enough to convince human pilots to take directions from ATC, what do you think the odds are that a super advanced race of beings would listen to them? 🤣
I met a Major General many years ago and he said Area-51 have deep underground tunnels - there are mag lev trains that start at Edwards , Nellis , S/4 , Area-51 , 52 ... and beyond . There is a tunnel for employees from Janet terminal to the Luxor then it runs under the hotels then to Area-51
This is my favorite channel because the company I work for has products going to NGAD, F35, HERMEUS, SpaceX, and many other private space launches. I really like seeing positive articles about these companies developments before the mainstream media gets involved and starts complaining.
Yeah im a janitor at nasa but I don’t make satellites
First Lightning. Kind of a badass name
Greetings from Cheyenne Mountain.
The new Area 51/52 is the all new massively expanded Cheyenne Mountain Space Force Station, formerly known as as NORAD which has moved to building one basement bunker at near by Peterson Air/Space Force Base.
New within, above and below infrastructure in every category.
I knew a pilot with South West Airlines who told me he would make flights from Los Vegas into Area 51 every so often. He never knew about the number of passengers or the cargo he might be carrying.
Great video! Tony LeVier’s name is pronounced “le-VEER”.
IIRC, fhe U-2 was "Angel", so its successor was "Archangel".
Would have been interesting to hear you tell the F117 origins story at the end, the last known black project produced by Groom Lake, June 18th 1981 first flight by Bill Park who was a successful property developer on the side but enjoyed his TOP SECRET work at 51!❤
Crashed and was badly injured, however less than a year later the first Production F117A was delivered🔥💪
A member of the RAF🇬🇧 (My Team) was selected as part of our special relationship to fly a Nighthawk from the very start 🚀
Another “official story” believer of 9/11. Killing your credibility here.
The Nevada testing range was divided into a numbered grid. Groom Lake is in Area %1 on the grid. Most of the testing took place in Area 44, I think.
If you haven't read it, I highly recommend its history, "Dreamland". It is a big "doorstop" of a book and is a thorough history of Area 51.
The F-16's intercepting the 9-11 hijacked plane didn't already have ammo loaded for the cannon?
No. In 2001 the US would not allow Air Guard aircraft to be armed. They were not* even allowed to posses any weapons or ammunition. And they were tasked with protecting the capital.
Hi Justin: Good info. I figured if they weren't armed it had to be something along the lines of what you explained. Just like a firearm without ammo., it's pretty much useless unless it's used as a bludgeoning device. Which is exactly what they were trying to use those F-16's for. Thanks for the info.
Hosing down parking spots would be the simplest and most elegant solution, and it looks like they are doing so.
Infrared images are made by temperature differences on a surface leaving a silhouette. Even if the surfaces are hosed down, it won't cool down at the same rate and can be picked up by IR camera. I am not sure hosing down is as effective as cardboard fake planes and other methods
@@hydrolifetech7911 What if they used hot water? 60 or 70 C?
it might work if they weren't in the middle of a desert. Alternately, they could hose it down with toilet water, but I doubt the staff would particularly love that. Seems like a tarp is simpler
Instead of doing all that cardboard shit and heater stuff, they could just sprayed water on the floor. like extremely cold water. or some type of liquid nitro or something and "erased" or muddy up the silhouette. Correct me if im wrong.
I'm sure they had lots of cold water to spray on the flight line. In the middle of the NV desert.
For folks looking for more excellent history on A51, the U2, oxcart, and sr71 program, annie Jacobsons book on area 51 is excellent!
There's nothing at Area 51. The good stuff is at Area 52. Behind that gravel pit just outside of Terre Haute.
Please do a video on the next generation interceptor
Alex, what is the story on the B52J upgrade, please? Thank you!
The War Zone is now making RUclips videos and just did an amazing video covering it
Fuck yeah more air power! 👍
What’s with dudes by the name of “Barnes” making strange and goofy military items?
(Barnes Wallace & Thornton Barnes)
Jane Barnes. God rest her soul.
Alex. Am happy you are making videos. Hope your procedure was highly successful.
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"a very unusual aircraft" it looks like a grippin to me
How did the contractors produce that much concrete? Was all that water available underground or was all that water transported in? (A logistical challenge since a pipeline is too public a thing to build)
There are fairly large aquifers under most of Nevada. One of the worries with placing a nuclear waste repository at Yucca Mountain, which is near Area 51, was that if any of it were to leak there is a potential for it to contaminate the aquifer under Amargosa Valley, which has about 1400 or so people using it.
Omg... this place is real as santa clause, which norad tracks....so area 51 is obviously FAKE!
You know what would be great...if the engineers make some cardboard silhouettes of some flying saucers and other exotic craft and leave them in the opening for the adversaries satellites to catch photos of...that would drive them crazy ...it will keep them guessing like it's a pop quiz😂😂😂
That would work for photos, but lots of spy satellites use radar instead/also
Lockheed Skunkworks built the SR-72 for Top Gun Maverick. This aircraft sitting outside their hangar resulted in at least one spy satellite re-directing it's orbit... permanently.
A video about the X65 and active flow control would be cool.
So you mean to tell me the Soviets really spent millions just to analyze the shape of cardboard
You do a great job of explaining things so that a construction worker, like myself can understand
While you're looking at area 51 on Google maps and putting yourself on a watchlist, browse around a little south and west of Groom Lake and see if you can spot all the nuclear test craters. There's a lot. Like, "how is Las Vegas still habitable" a lot.😮
At the beginning of July 1947 the incident at Roswell happened. Before the year ended the -
USAF
CIA
EG&G
all came into being. The history of Area 51 is about more than high performance aircraft.
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the Area51 stuff has been MOVED to Dayton, OH and "The" Ohio state university's Battelle Institute
Cues thousands of people doing Naruto runs on Area 51
I thought "ash cans" were used to dispose of wood/coal ash used for most heating and power plants at the time and trash cans used for trash.
Please pronounce my state correctly. It’s nuh-VADD-uh not nuh-VODD-uh. Thank you.
Thanks Alex. If we can play "silly buggers" with regards to soviet/Russia surveillance surely they can do the same to us? Some "men" do that with latex dolls. I assume they are only fooling themselves though...
Hi, I hope you are doing fine. I have two questions for you. First, why did the cost of design of B - 29 far exceed the cost of the Manhattan Project, when it was just a piston engine aircraft? Another question is, do you know some pilots, who had flown both B- 29 and B -747 in their entire aviation career?
why do America have area 51 when there advanced jets use superior Russian vtol/stovl thrust vectoring technology, can you imagine Russia's area 51 with space-stations and closed cycle rockets su.57.
WTF. The WIki link says administered by Edwards AFB but I'm pretty positive its actually Nellis that is main one.
Man, I would almost want to just go over there and sit outside and listen to the aircraft takeoff in land. Because at the end of the day, it’s an Air Force Base just like every other Air Force Base so there will be aircraft leaving and coming to the facility all the time. I wouldn’t care what they look like or how cool they would be. I just would like to hear them. I also created an audio drama, where part of it is actually based in area 51 latter part of the first half and part of the second half and of course, you know the folklore about the aliens and stuff. Well that’s there but instead of just focusing on that this time, I figured why not make it more realistic interpretation of that it is primarily an Air Force Base so they’ll be testing new aircraft. so there are scenes where fighters are taking off in landing.
2:32 amazing Western propaganda. the USSR would be jealous. it's a fairy tale.
18:50 - eerily reminiscent of the permanent "shadows" left behind by some of those caught exposed by the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I will get roasted in the comments here, but I remember when Google Earth first was released. After hearing about S4 from an interview with Bob Lazar when I was still a young adult, I looked up Papoose Lake and there was a distinguishable rectangular outlining of "bushes" into the south side of the mountain where even today car tracks leading to the area are noticeable. That image is no long exists (even using the Google Earth's historic image capability) It has been removed. To this day, I am convinced there is a massive underground structure in that mountain.
Excellent presentation Alex! Dreamland does have many, many secrets too. The book "Area 51 - Images of Aviation" by Peter Merlin doesn't hide anything. This excellent collection of historic photos taken not from above but from within the facility provides context to the incredible past of aviation development and to the future security of our nation that Dreamland has contributed to.
Another old saying is that sometimes low tech will work better than high tech....
Because it just IS....😊
So we didn't use to keep our fighters armed and ready before 9/11? I guess our military didn't learn anything from the Independence Day movie.
Tony LaVier stated he flew Lockheed's Beechcraft solo and he alone "found" Groom Lake. Where do you get your information?
Holy shit I stumbled into Alex's YT channel. Insta subscribe. Love this dudes content on TT, excited to get long form video
Damn, I knew it ! It's a Romulan cloaking device. Or I guess it could be a big ol' roof over everything.
The Right might have not reported as much on the story of Lieutenant General Marc Sasseville and Heather Penney, is the fact that most of us would have done the same.
Alert aircraft with no A/A armament? Dude.. I'd love one more example of intercept aircraft sent up unarmed.
Not to be argumentative, but this fact doesn't pass the litmus test.
So you too 24 MINUTES to tell me they move airplanes into a hanger?
Downvote incoming.
LoL - just think - 🤔🤔 - dozens or hundreds of translucent tents with different futuristic fighter-jet designs painted on them... 🤔🤔 😆
Wouldn't it be good to have a runway under a runway?.
Then you can have everything "secret" underground, and if they need to test them, they have a run way to take off and at the other end is a big arse slanted door that opens up, fly out and fly off.
It would cost a lot of money, but they've wasted billions before now on stupid things that haven't seen day light 🤷🏻♂️
Although i enjoy your videos and respect your thoroughness, I wish we didn't have to endure a history of Area 51 from the beginning before getting to the point of the video; "How Area 51 hides its secrets from the world". I find this the case with most of your videos. Any video about stealth inevitably start with a long drawn out history of stealth from the beginning of time. It is frustrating for me. Just a suggestion, cut down on the history and get to the point of the video.
Reupload? I have worse short term memory than Biden and I recall hearing much of this verbatim recently…
Groundnews explanation was excellent. 😊
It required a federal judge to force the usaf to publicly acknowledge the site exists
There wasn't time to load missiles so they launched without them.... Lol seriously lol my goodness this is such a joke. What value do you bring if this is what you think your audience is going to believe?
This is why i dont buy into the we dont have the aroura aircraft back in the early 90 and 80s satellites are constantly monitored we and other countries no the time of satilites and orbits which would be beneficial for other airborne assets....even highly classified lighter than air assets and im not rslking about your average blimp or balloon 3d printed meta material istremely high altitude sky spies and even explaine some of these uap sighting delta shaped lighter than air vehicle to early warning missile defense....
lol taking a page out of operation quicksilver. i hope they keep putting out those mockups of some crazy nonsensical but expensive looking projects out on the tarmac.
Must be good at keeping secrets if another random Utube vid. Has secret imformation 😅😅😅 gotta love utube
I was doing Annual Training at Fort Polk, Louisiana last year and the days before we headed back to my unit in Texas we had to take our vehicles to the yard and get them hooked onto the civilians 18 wheelers so they could get taken back for us I had met a gentleman named Micheal. We were talking about our careers and I asked how he liked being a contractor for the Military. One of the things brought up is the places he’s gone. He pulls out his phone and shows me a pic of his truck load it’s a destroyed Russian jet and he was taking it to Area 51. Of course in the pic he was miles away from it but on the way he stopped to get pic.
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Amazing story of F16 pilots. Thank you.
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Thank you for sharing this
what new info is in this video that cant otherwise be sourced from other youtube videos on Area 51? good summary but nothing revelatory