I'm getting a new (used?) car | Help me choose!
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I'm getting a new (used?) car | Help me choose!
It's time to get ourselves a second car, the big question is do I go with my head or my heart? I guess a lot of people go through a similar process, especially for a second car - so I thought I'd share mine!
Please try and watch it through to the end - it's a big help if you do!
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Spoiler alert : I’ve bought a car since I made this, update coming soon.
I hope you've bought a BMW i3
Get a BMW i3, there fun to drive and electric. They have good battery management so no worries there. Space when you need it too
Looking forward to the unveiling of the 2010 Ferrari F430 😅😅
I killed 3 heart cars in 4 years - one squashed by a tree in a storm, the other two had consistent engine & electrical problems - good money after bad. I had to buy a car with my head this time around. Despite wanting to hate it I forced myself to buy a 7 year old Honda Jazz that had only done 12k miles. After 6 months of ownership I realised I loved it. I'm coming up to 3 years of ownership, and it is 10 years old, but it has been ultra reliable. My biggest issue was I needed to save money for a new roof on my house. With the old cars I was always spending what I'd saved up on car repairs rather than roof repairs. It is wonderful living without the stress of wondering what is going to go wrong next, and this far outweighs any pleasure I derived from the money hemorrhaging heart cars.
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After listening to your intro, the seat mii sprung to mind. Good to see it in the shortlist. Cracking little car.
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@@DefinitelyNotAGuru it’s all about the Mii in my book.
Depends what your priorities are? I am a bangernomics guy, dad was a garage owner. Gave me wise advice. Vitara auto. Slow but huge,y dependable and torque converter Japanese made gearbox.
I bought my daughter a yaris 1.0 11 years ago now done 90k not a single fault. 60 mpg all day, slow but capable. Sliding rear seat, very capacious plus bigger wheels than Aygo better ride. 35 tax it’s a tool but not auto
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Seat mii electric for me for a 2nd car i had the Skoda city go petrol was mustard
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Go for a Suzuki swift, drive really well and very reliable
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You always tell people to go for the DEAL not the car. Forget the more exciting stuff.
Getting in and out of a sports car with dodgy knees is a no, no!
But as you say, a small automatic will be top dollar. Go to a supermarket carpark mid morning and look at what comes in and who it's driven by. Honda Jazz 2002, 44000 miles, 3 grand. Keep it 2 years sell it for the same.
I do - video on the new car coming soon 😉
A bit left field but VW are doing some stonking (and loss making) offers on approved used ID5s at the moment which caught my eye. On a 3 year pcp they are doing 0% finance, deposit contributions (Inchcape offering £1000) and come with at least 2 years warranty and free servicing. Remember these are £55k new with incredible spec if you get a Style/Tech/Max trim. You can but 3k down and pay less than £200 a month and can hand it back in a few years if you’re worried about depreciation. I guess these were overpriced to begin with according to the reviews but had I not got a Cupra born recently, I would have seriously considered an id5. And remember it’s an Audi Q4 underneath and charging is cheap on a flex tariff.
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@@DefinitelyNotAGurugive the Mrs the Tesla and you get the ID5
The finances don’t work for me mate
I'd go EV and then MGZS or 5. Maybe an e-Golf or Ioniq.
Also, I don't know how urgently you need the 2nd car, but the early ID.3s are about 11-12k, so wait a few months and maybe have one of those?
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A 40kWh LEAF all day long for around for £7k-8k if your looking for a local run around.
100 miles range in winter and 130 miles in summer.
Ultra reliable. Plenty of space and a comfy car.
8 year and 100k mile battery warranty to go with it.
Now as low as £6k with 40k mileage 😊
They’re just not me unfortunately
I think this guy is a really good RUclipsr.
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Me too 😅
Hey Jim! Great video once again. I love the way you've walked us through your thoughts and talked about a lot of cars I have interests in. Nice one! I'm not going to go on and on (for once haha) but I will say this. GO WITH YOUR HEART! Life is too short and the last 8 years of hardship Jackie and I have been through have taught me one thing. When we can. We do! Unfortunately for the longest time we haven't been able to due to finances but when the day comes that we can again...we will haha! You deserve a heart car mate. Go for it 👍🏼 I'm just about to watch the next video in this series and see what you've bought 😁😁😁
I went with my head 😂😂👍 your time will come very soon mate.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru 🤭👍🏼 Let's hope so 🤞🏼😆
I’d look at a Honda Civic. If you look at a post 2009 car the gearbox is better than the I-shift system previously. They have great engines and also a lot are owned by people who keep up with maintenance. The budget should be around £3500. Hope that helps.
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you've got a tesla already so just get the seat mi. I really enjoy your videos so keep going! good luck with the purchase.
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Its just funny to see you go through the same process i went through a few months ago, after an impulse buy of a 3.0 tdi A4 that shifted nicely but cost an arm and a leg to rin and repair, i then went with my head and got an electric corsa. Goy to say i don't love it the same way at all but it is very capable and will save me aome money for a bit. Go with your head until yout business has a couple more years of books and then lease something maybe a bit more fun like a cupra born 😊
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Just go for Toyota Yaris 1.33 auto , I’ve had my 15 plate Yaris for 3 years now and haven’t done anything else apart from oil and filter change and tyres once. Gives 48-50mpg in real life. Those are still expensive but even a 10 plate for 3-4k is totally worth it !
It’s just not for me
Seat mii electric, economical, within electric budget
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Definitely handy seeing the thought process. When you released the van video I skipped over it thinking I'll never need a van, but this got me thinking I should definitely consider it if the right deal came up seeing as it's just me, wife and dog who'd be in it
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I first thought of a 4-year-old Nissan Leaf, Renault Zoë, or Seat Mii when you gave your brief.
They are available with sensible mileages within your budget. There are also a few electric Corsas.
Much better than the £4-£5k cars you were considering that were older.
For older autos, they say buy a torque converter. I know Kia and Hyundais are good, also the CVT in Honda and Toyota is reliable.
I think the VW Up might by from Cyprus - tends to be Japanese cars or classics that are imported from Japan. European cars tend to come in from Cyprus (and Ireland).
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Consider a mini countryman or clubman, practical and good looking, a diesel automatic, plenty of independent mini specialists out there, good luck bro👍
Diesel would be bad news for the low annual mileage it would do unfortunately
I’ve just temporarily bought the Mii Electric… driving on the motorway/A roads and I’ve been getting around 5.5mls/kWh (4.8 when it was cooler)… in the town it’s closer to 7!! Insanely efficient and not at all bad to drive daily. I came out of an MG4 which is a very, very easy car to live with (a lot to be said for that and never really pitched by RUclipsrs when they review). I’m running this Mii until March when I’ll buy a nearly new EV, not sure what yet but it will break my heart not to get this economy! 😂
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Hey Jim I’ve got a Toyota GT86 automatic 70k on the clock full Toyota service history…..WBAC say it’s worth around £8k…..had it since new best car I’ve ever had…..won’t let mine go yet but worth a look 👀 cheapish to insure and tax (£210)….2+2 with regard to seats ok for short trips…..just a thought 😊
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This is a me-too post, and yes the Mi/Go/Up ev makes massive sense. If you are up for a challenge, how about a 2019 Leaf 30 Tekna with 20k miles, for not very much? Catch is , sat on my drive last 3 years, complex Buyer fails, Covid and health issues. PM me if interested.
I’m just not after a Leaf but thanks. Get well soon mate 👍
I personally would go with your head over your heart, only saying that through my own experience.
Old Mini’s will be money pits so I’d count them out even though I can tell you’d love to own one!
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Head , we would all like our dream car . But at the end of the day they. are all just metal boxes
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Its got to be the head, you can be a born again boy racer when the kids move out🤣 Seat Mii I have heard nothing but good things. I always watch to the end so keep them coming.
Thank you!!! Watching to the end without skips is evidently mega important. I’m still learning after 3.5 years at this 😁
Honda Jazz. You're welcome.
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Go with your heart mate, it’s coming home 😂😂⚽️⚽️
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Kia Soul EV 30kWh (not the 27kWh) 2018, will still have a years Kia Warranty. 140 mile real world range, heat pump, heated seats and steering wheel as standard. Super efficient and ours has done 54k miles and still 100% SoH. Worth a look.
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@@DefinitelyNotAGuru In June I was getting between 5-7 miles/kWh. They are a bit oddball but servicing is around £100 a visit to maintain the Kia warranty. Certainly head over heart choice but easy to live and dependable. Late Brake show has a good review of used Souls.
I have been thinking about second car top slot for me is Kia soul Ev as well
@@keithbrown339 The Soul or the Ioniq 28kWh or 38kWh. A late Kia can push the warranty out to the end of 2025, as long as it has FSH. Recently put ours in for a service, dealer said the steering column universal joint needed replacing and just ordered the part and did the work. No hassle, I didn’t even notice there was an issue ☺️The Soul comes loaded with kit as well. 140-150 miles in summer, 110-120 winter.
Looking at your requirements, a small electric car through your business seems to make the most sense for you. A 10-15 year old small european built automatic ICE car is a huge risk in terms of garage bills and downtime likely creating a load of inconvenience and frustration.
The Electric Vehicle Man has recently videoed a review of his Seat Mii and raved about its driving experience and efficiency. I wouldnt have thought you would need a huge range for your second car?
I am not biased by the way, we have 2 petrol cars and 1 diesel in our household, but would certainly consider a secondhand electric car as a second car when we come to change.
One of our cars is an MX5. Its great fun but the the times when we can actually use it is limited due to the need to carry people or "stuff". Or its just raining in the UK summer!
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My mother has an 08 automatic Yaris, and I can confirm it has the worst auto box I have ever driven!!! My pick with head over heart would be the Seat Mii.
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Those MK2 Yaris's have MMT gearboxs....utter garbage! Had the MK1 4sp auto (49mpg best) which was brilliant,now have a 2015 Yaris CVT (58mpg) which is fantastic!
If you can stretch to buying the Seat Mii, I'd go for that.👍 & When the VW up is supposed to be fun to drive, I can imagine the Seat mii ev should be still fun to drive & mega efficient as well.👍👏👏
👍 things haven’t quite gone to plan. Video on the way.
Another good one, Jim
I'd go head. Citigo is the best option.
Been keeping an eye on used EVs for a while as they keep falling in price. e208 takes my eye , but they're over £11k still. Corsa-e is slightly less.
So I quite know that market. Under 9k.
How big do you want to go?
Skoda Citigo too small?
Leaf?
Kia eSoul if you need bigger?
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What's worse than spending too much time browsing used cars and bikes on Autotrader................watching someone else doing it 😂. Good video.
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1 of our cars the DS3 Dsport Thp 63 plate i did my homework and the N14 BMW engine as long as it has been maintained well they aren't a bad engine, i looked maticulosly at timing chain been done etc, so if you fancy a cooper S buy 1 definitely after 2010 & 2012 for Cooper Works with at least 90,000 + and just look for good history like i did with Thp Dsport DS3.
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Bought a 2015 Toyota Aygo as it was the sensible thing to do (First car). Cheap, reliable, etc. But hating the clutch. For London traffic it is not fun.
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2nd hand Corsa E potentially? Over 200 miles "quoted" on a full charge and around 8k on autotrader 2020 plate 80k miles
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Go with your heart Jim. Life is about living and be happy!
You know your financial limits better than anyone commenting here. So choose something that will make you smile every time you're behind the wheel :)
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Im in a similar position only a little more hair😅 the used car prices are still high in my opinion....going between newer car with high mileage versus an older model with less ?? Its a minefield of 💩buying an older car.......ive been looking at VW Tiguan/ Passat estate with DSG as long as they have service history of the DSG service being every 40k.....then viewing the car trying to spot any future problems, i suppose you can buy an extended warranty?? Be interesting to see this one through.....your selected car being viewed and scrutinized etc.....great honest video as i thought you used £50 notes as loo paper !! 😂
I only use twenties mate, the £50’s dig into my 🍇 too much.
VW Polo. Got a 2015 for my son two years ago as a first car. Cheap tax, cheap insurance, look good as a 3 door. VW build quality and reliability.
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Heart car for a second car, you've got the Tesla for shifting the family about. Got a TT for the wife as a second car, she loves it
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Feel you might get a decent EV if you can hit £9k Mii, Ioniq, Corsa Zoe ( as new as poss) if not go petrol Yaris, Jazz, Swift.
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We are all different and have different use cases. I would hate high excise duty and low mpg and unpredictable high repair costs, and I would go boring but cheap to run and reliable. 20 years ago someone gave me a £50K Jaguar XK8 almost new, I hated it because of the above mentioned reasons, kept for a year and sold it.
Go for the Seat would be my choice, but if you want fun, then yes the Cooper, but never the BMW or the van, but too late, you have already decided.
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What about ULEZ? You never mentioned anything about that, is that assuming that's of no current concern with this one?
Not for me. ULEZ is not a thing where I live yet and unlikely to be soon and our long distance car is the Tesla 👍
Get the Seat Mii and make the wife take it to work, even good in winter with the heated seats.. Then you can have the Tesla. More comfortable and faster than a 15 year old mini.
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I enjoyed watching this and the thought process you were going through. I am in a similar dilemma, as I really need to change my car - an Audi TT which I ordered new. I have no idea what car to choose as I am elderly but still a sporty girl at heart! Although a Granny, I don’t want a Granny car! I like cars that I feel good in, so something like a Honda Jazz is out of the question. You mentioned a BMW 3 Series?? I think my similar like minded friend has one of those. I have some money to buy but am considering leasing. I have kept a spreadsheet of all my expenditure from new (not Road tax or insurance) and looking at the depreciation I think it will be worth my while. Oh, the decisions!
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BMW Porsche, electric NO! Mini we have one that has had no issues but the reputation means dealers do not really want unless you are buying a new mini so we are holding on to it and wife loves it. So Skoda Fabia, Toyota IGo , better bet if you want auto stay away from anything that is not old fashioned Torque convertor Powershift Geartronic Stronic etc Have a look at Highpeak you tube he does videos of what to buy for £5k
I did those videos before him to be fair mate, his videos get views that’s all - they are however incredibly similar to mine 😎
We recently bought a Seat Mii manual petrol for my son to learn to drive but it is do good my wife use it all the time now instead of our own cars. So when he passes his test we are going to buy a used Seat Mii electric for us to drive. Test drive one, I think you will really like. The heart car can wait.
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With a depleted wallet.....heart will inevitibly end in tears.....particularly so with the Mini...you will be crying yourself to sleep in the early hours having anguish and stressing about what the next invoice will bring!
So, heads it is...based on the options presented, the mii would be the most cost effective and sensible option.
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You want to spend small money on an older car and like me you hate things breaking down or going wrong . With over 35 years experience in the motor trade your choices for your main requirement is simple a Toyota, Lexus or a Honda will fit the bill. Old European cars of all makes will be money pits trust me
I know this, I just don't want any of the ones I can afford ;)
Have you considered short-term renting, Avis, Hertz, local firm etc? Perhaps not as convenient as having a car sitting on your drive, but wouldn’t cost you anything when you’re not using it.
It’s not for me but thanks
Something sensible, but fun...
How about a BMW i3?
Plenty of good ones going for under £10k.
Bit late now Giles, there have been a few videos since this one - I didn't get an i3 as couldn't get what I wanted within budget but it was on the list
You might want to consider leasing, I think there are some very cheap deals out there. I hear you can get an Ora new for about £150 a month. Mini’s can be money pits.
Please watch the full video - it really hurts the algorithm when you don't - thank you!
Hi Jim I would go for the mii my wife shares a petrol one with her mum and it's really comfortable and if you go with your heart there's nothing worse than having a beautiful money Pit sitting out side waiting for you to get to be funds to fix the latest issue whatever you decide I wish you well take care and don't forget the V check👍👍
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SEAT MII would be my choice a friend of has one and he gets 5 to 6 miles kw and it's great to drive as well
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Go with your head Jim, you can go with your heart when the kids have left ! I did !
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What about a Yaris Hybrid? MK2 Yaris auto is a MMT which is utterly poop! AVOID.
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Great video
Thanks for the visit
Don’t forget that 100% write down allowance applies to pre-reg as well, as long as it’s only demo mileage.
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Buying a heart car on your limited budget is likely to lead to constant garage bills unless you do your own spannering. For now, sensible head car and 2 years down the line, see where you are at. electric cars make no tax sense if run privately.
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Got one of those Ora 03’s off the back of your videos, £190 a month, it’s great!
Shame I can’t get a lease at the moment
👍👍👍 Go with what ever makes you happy. Good luck. Thanks Jim
Thanks mate
I bought a Mini R56 from New and it was a continual nightmare.
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Just buy a toyota bro
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Head all the time with kids as there will also be the unknown problem high cost item will happen
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Go for the head... No brainer for a run around. The Mii or E-UP.
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Heart says Porsche or Z4 head says Yaris - I stayed to the end 😂😂😂
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BMW flat six,that would interesting !.
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i3 you really can't go wrong with one of these as a second car.
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What should do is get a lease deal I can recommend you a good one
I can’t get a lease - did you watch the video?
Go with your head for now. Try and a get a long term press car down the line
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I've been thinking of a van for a while just as I can get my bikes in the back when I go to the forest. I would go with your head at this moment in time, hopefully the business will get better and better and when it does you can then allow your heart to make the choice and you will feel you earned it. Also you can put a few vinyls on the side of it and advertise the business...if you make them magnetic you can add and remove as needed. Cheers Jim.
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Best thing we ever did was to get a van. 6 seats, huge load area, we get the whole families bikes inside as well and luggage etc, perfect vehicles.
Multimode gearboxes aren't great and poor reliability
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Corsa electric are coming down in price and love ours
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2 years head... then go for your hart
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You need a Lexus 😎 You can get a nice GS or IS for 5k, reliability even on the older ones is top notch if they’ve been looked after, and they come with all the bells and whistles. Or, how about PCP through the business on an electric UX300e? They go for £20k outright now, so a PCP deal might be good value? Ok, they’re not the best EV in terms of range and charging speed, but they’re a superb car to drive.
I’m not a fan 👍
I think you're wrong on the Boxster. I have had a 996 for 10+ years, servicing is every 2yr, major-minor-major-..., not annual. Apart from engine, everything on that generation of 911/Boxster are easily serviceable at indy garages. Most of the usual parts have OEM supplies at prices no more expensive than Mini, BMW. And for that generation, the Porsche autobox is old style torque converter made by Merc. It is bomb proof and only needs ATF change at 84k miles. I also own en eUp, best car in my fleet, 5.9 m/kwh averaged over 12 months. The skoda version doesn't have heated windscreen, reverse camera, and optional parking sensors. Seat Mii electric probably best value of the 3 variants.
I’ve had several friends with them with the dreaded IMS issue and other things; I will have one someday but when I have budget to get a cherry example rather than a frilly one.
Seat Ibiza? the 95 tsi is a very decent engine with decent torque in low gear. 2018 onward is relatively modern if not plain interior, upkeep is cheap, cheap tyres, good on fuel you can get up to 60 on a run. New chassis is great. Average drive, no feel but very capable. They look great, LED headlights! 5 door, practical.
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BMW i3 has to be on the shortlist surely. You won't get the bigger battery within budget, but the BEV is super reliable and silly amounts of fun for something with shopping trolley proportions. I do 12k a year in my 8 year old one and it's still amazing
Yep
Hope its a Suzuki Grand Vitara 3 or 5 door
It’s not
What could you get? A much newer than most of those cars - Peugeot 308 for £7k, a Skoda of some variety usually bomb proof…or what my mate does which is buy a sub £500 car with an MOT and run it for a year or until it explodes and do the same again.
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My wife had a 63 plate ice VW Up from new. It was very good, if a little gutless. She switched to the e-Up two years ago and it is brilliant in every respect. The 0-62 time may be slow by comparison with other EVs, but the 0-30 acceleration is terrific and the extra weight of the 32 KWH battery has improved the handling no end. One pedal driving makes it feel like a go-kart and it is also very easy to park with as the spec includes an integrated reverse camera. It's ideal as a town car and even copes well with the connected potholes that are called roads in East Dorset. Get one of those, or the Seat/Skoda derivatives.
Video on the new car coming very soon!
Definitely not a Mini as not reliable. I'd say it's between the Yaris and the electric van. Yaris will hold its value and be super reliable. I've owned a Yaris for 12 years with no issues, it's the newer shape eCVT auto with the 1.3 petrol engine. Great video BTW.
Yeah I can’t get a lease on the van as I said in the video and I’m just not ready for a Yaris, amazing cars but not me right now
As a sensible second car.... I think the Zoe is a bargain. Your example with 83,000 appears to be a really bad choice.... There are so many out there with private owners and low mileage. An E-up is just too slow and too dull. And the Zoe GT is "Mini Like" in its kind of nippy performance.
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Zoe Gt-line 50, Niro 64kwh version, Leaf 40kwh, or if petrol hyrid Nissan Juke, Hyundai i20
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Head or heart 🤔 the heart will win and after a few repair bills your head will go for fox sake, I can't see the point of buying a old ev that may have suspect battery life and a reduced range when you can get an equivalent petrol that goes further. I have normally had to go the practical family car route, I've always wanted a double cab but wasn't suitable for car seats, now the kids are way older I can't afford one as I need a euro 6, I need to change my volvo I got now because I'm sick to death of repair bills so I've been scanning auto trader and watching reviews but can't find what ticks my box that's around 15k, never done loans or lease it makes me sick to see your lease video deals on how much they vary depending on how the market is going. I'm torn between a mitsubish phev or a skoda karoq my heart would luv a moggy van 🤭.
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Audi a4 Avant Black Edition. Any age or mileage to suit your budget. If you can pay Audi £35 a month for their Audi All In which gives you 2 years warranty, Audi Breakdown and full servicing. Great deal. You dont even need to buy it from Ausi. Mine came from a car supermarket.
I’m not getting that for £6k mate
current shape, high mileage, 40kwh leafs are available from under £5000, with good battery state of health and decent range...I wouldn't drop to 2k
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Would the company funds stretch to a 2018/2019 pre facelift Mini Cooper S E - great little fun car if you are doing less miles a day than it’s 110 miles range. Their batteries seem not to degrade much. Has 2 adult seats + 2 small children in the back.
Nope, if I’m buying through the company it needs to be an EV, if I’m buying personally it needs to be sub £6k
what about a 2014 kia soul, 49,000 miles for £4995 on ebay or a 2013 peugeot 308 for £3400 again on ebay, many more bargains there
EBay is shark infested waters but yes, lots of interesting cars around. If I get something sensible it will be electric, otherwise I’m after fun! 👍
How about a first-gen Leaf? You’ll only get 60 miles range from it, but if it’s only doing short trips anyway, should be all you need.
Just not my cup of tea. I’ve got something sorted now, video coming soon.
You can get a 2020 Corsa-e on Auto trader for £12k. Low mileage, low maintenance, 5 doors. No brainier for me.
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A Hyundai Ioniq 28 or might just scrape in 38 kWh with the £9k , these are the most Efficient EVs going, plenty of space and dirt cheap to run .
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Ora Cat/03 would be a good choice as v cheap lease deals atm
I can’t get a lease, as per the video
Yes, of course. If you can increase budget for Ev how’s about an eGolf or Ionic for well under £10k?
It's really dull but a used leaf is such good value at the moment. My Dad's currently looking to replacing his CRV and spending £12/15k . I've told him he can get a almost brand new leaf and it will run on fresh air but he's determined to buy the 10 year old CRV with 60k miles for some reason
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My son is looking at selling he’s new shape 2015 Mazda 2 at £4500 buts it’s manual I’m afraid
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I have had a 14 plate merc b class 1.5 diesel for the past 10y, tax is £30 , and I'm getting 60 mpg, best car ive ever had,
Diesel is a bad idea for my
mileage but thanks
how about alfa romeo mito?
I’d love one but…it’s an Alfa, the autos is supposed to be pants and the repair bills will likely be unaffordable
VW Golf mk7 1.6tdi SE 2:20 DSG Auto 2013 on, £4500 - £5500 best car you could get for the money will hold it’s value
Diesel, especially that one, is a terrible choice for low mileage use but thanks 👍
My experience says buy what you love/want. Then when stuff does go wrong you’re more tolerant and forgiving plus you’ll enjoy driving it more. Good luck 🤞
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