RM was often told by some people to stop using filters during his vlive. Taehyung was once told by someone that wearing glasses doesn't suit him. But as you can see, they both did it on the IDOL MV, maybe as a sign that they don't care what haters say to them, because they love themselves.
@@Star-bt8bp i personally think its because BTS treats their fans so well, that some of them think theyre entitled and truly believe that the artist owes something to them for their support lmao. these types of people were also most likely entitled prior to this, so it really shows their character
listen , some reactors just react to BTS cause of the many requests and maybe having interest but that doesnt guarantee them being a fan, so dnt get ur hopes up ive watched thousand reactors who reacted to BTS for 2years n then lost interest
The lyrics that talk about them having many selves within themselves is essentially a variation on the phrase, "I contain multitudes." Aka, I'm a complex person who is constantly changing and evolving, and I'm still learning about various aspects of myself whether that be interests, past memories resurfacing, mistakes that make me confront a darker side of myself, etc etc. They aren't cardboard cutouts; they're people, and every day they're a little different than they were the day before, because yesterday influences today and today influences tomorrow.
Beautifully said! May I also add that it can also reference the different personas we take on based on who we're talking to or the situation that we're in. The idol "RM" can give a wonderful speech now, but he would act more like "Namjoon" in front of his parents. And yet, both RM and Namjoon make up the same person.
I think the next MV you’ll enjoy seeing is Spine Breaker. THis one’s a totally unique one because it’s “home made” in every sense of the word since they were challenged to plan, design and shoot it themselves in a hotel while on their concert tour. The way they did everything guerrilla style using what’s on hand and one handheld cam is quite interesting I think even for non technical people like myself. The behind the scenes of how they did it is too entertaining as well
I think if you’re not Korean this video will never truly be understood but as a Korean everything made perfect sense & it made me realize how genius bts and the directors and everyone is
@@andjelarakic1608 history + cultural meanings + lyrical meanings I think! even the best translated versions of lyrics cant convey the exact same feeling as the original msg
There are many personas inside one person. Example: RM is an idol, was a rapper, is a leader and also apart from all this, he is Kim Namjoon (himself) who loves art, is clumsy, loses things, is a person who thinks deeply, reads alot and so much more despite the persona he creates on stage for himself. We have different personas too. We’re different people Professionally, with friends, with family etc. So they’re saying that so many personas are within themselves but they accept it all and love themselves.
I think we should do a shout out to RM (only he took part in songwriting this one). I mean the lyricism is at it's epitome with him!! He doesn't get enough appreciation for it... Most people don't pay enough attention to lyrics and just enjoy the vibe..but if you look closely, you'll understand what the song's about and then you can enjoy it immensely 💜 I hope more people will pay attention and appreciate the songwriters
The lyrics are always special to me , no matter what the song is . I love BTS because they write & compose a lot of their songs . Love you BTS . Love you RM
8:22 basically it's saying that people are multidimensional. you can have many different "versions" of yourself (like your personas) but in the end it's all you. no part of you is fake and you should learn to accept every aspect of yourself in order to truly love yourself
"there's always somebody AWAKE listening to BTS" reminds me of what Jin said, I forgot if I read it somewhere or if I watched a video of it but he said that he never turns off his notifications on Weverse, he always have notifications cause fans always post on Weverse everytime and they're are all over the world, maybe it's nighttime in Korea but daytime in the other parts of the world and vice versa
So kore (the whale) is the name of a whale in the BTS tiny tan video of zero o’clock (a song). It’s like a mini music video with Animated BTS helping someone. You would love that to, it’s so cute and heartwarming Tiny tan: Zero O’Clock (it’ll be named Dream On)
There's actually a lot more to this video than he covered. E.g. they chose the colourful over the top aesthetic on purpose bc haters would criticize them for colourful concepts. Yoongi was called pale or something by haters so he wore a snow white sweater. RM using filters bc he was criticized for using them on lives. They used an African dance and lots of traditional Korean dances too. They were also wearing modern hanboks and had traditional Korean fans. They were criticized for becoming 'too western'. My interpretation of a few things: sitting at the table represents how they made a seat for themselves at the table to be taken seriously as artists then at the end they are in front of it bc they are beyond that level. The ship/plane and globe representing their journey to global domination.
There has always been a prejudice about idols in Korea that they are not 'real artist' bc they think they don't make their own music and produced by the company even though general public do enjoy their music People have been criticizing them for those reasons which could be true in some ways but still be false in many ways. but i think bts really has been changing that kind of perspective And as a Korean, i think this explanation was good for me and pretty understandable!
alex, it's really hard to spend a day without watching new uploads from you everyday, explains why i'm so early bcs i kept refreshing my feed waiting for you
Koreans don't actually look at Idol music as real music. Kpop is a separate genre within Korean music, the overall Korean public actually prefer solo artists who do ballads, rnb, and trot as well as indie bands. Kpop is on the same level as Disney music in Korea basically, a Korean fan said if you were to ask any random Korean on the street to name a Kpop group today it will probably be BTS, Blackpink, Brave Girls, Twice and that's it. Kpop is made to appeal to western audiences, hence all the English in the songs, names, having English/Japanese speakers in the group, having foreign members in the group, etc. I'm assuming you live in the U.S, think about all of your close friends, family and acquaintances, how many of them regularly listen to music outside of their native language or follow foreign celebrities?? Well it's the same in Korea. As mentioned before Kpop is made to appeal to the west hence all the rap, hip hop, edm, rock influences, which is why it is HUGE amongst the international audience and someone like yourself who is very new to the genre would have no idea that Kpop isn't actually as popular in Korea as it is overseas.
Hello, I am a Korean living in Korea. I can't say what you said is wrong, but I hope you think not all Koreans ignore idol music. Idol music is one of the genres of kpop in Korea, so idol music is considered that way by the older generation just as the younger generation does not prefer the trot you mentioned. I think the reason why you think idols are being ignored in Korea is because older generations are mainly dominating the media with power. So the younger generation in Korea never ignores idol music. And although idol entertainment has no choice but to run idols considering overseas markets to make money, plz don't say that idol music is only for overseas markets. You know what? It's because of the hard work and love of Korean idol fans that you got to know about Kpop and idols. That's one of the I want you to know. And I hope you don't rely on Internet information when you talk about Korea, but talk to Koreans in person. (especially young generation) But the in-depth criticism of Korea's view of idols was very good. Thank you!
It’s a bit interesting that they don’t listen to music in foreign languages. I live in europe, and here it’s very common to listen to music in english, like VERY common. Also music in other languages as Swedish, Spanish, French and such as well
@@user-tt8nj4wr9p oh yea i totally understand your explaination too! Indeed there are a high number of young korean audience that loves kpop but its just the older generations who prefer trot and all over it ! 😁👍
Only people who have been loyal everyday to Alex reaction of BTS understand the pain of waiting new upload😂.. did you notice the time of upload is different compare to his early reactions when he first dive into BTS?if yes then you are with me😂💜
@@Jules.Rae.Author I mean the time he used to upload new video is different now..before this he upload new video in the morning(my time zone) and I saw it as soon as I wake up but now its a little bit late sometimes in the evening or afternoon😂.. but I guess its still okay since he still upload regularly💜
I think that the next one you should react to is Spine Breaker by BTS! It's completely homemade by them, including the choreo and their clothes! The original is on a site called Vlive and the video is called: "BTS GAYO - track 15". The whole video is a process of them making the MV and at the end there's the final product! It's really fun, I think you'll enjoy it!
You should be quoted on this --- "They have created such a huge empire where the sun literally never sets. There's a person somewhere in the globe awake listening to BTS."
I would like to add one more explanation. "Idol" in Korea is a little bit different with the English meaning. It is a word to call all boy/girl bands in Korea, so it is more like a "job." Usually there is a producer that makes their songs, and the boy/girl band will be trained to sing, dance and handle interviews etc. Even if one is not famous, if the person has gone through this process, s/he will say her/his job is an idol. This is why musicians look down and don't think they do actual music. However, the idol industry in Korea is evolving, so more and more idols are also trained to produce and compose. The idols might be looked down by other musicians, but for other people, many admire them, as we commonly agree that it takes a lot of work and effort to get trained, usually 3-4 years or even more. 3-4 years of your teen life is a big thing! I hope this helped you understand the Korean culture a little bit more. :)
the dance that Jimin does with the fan during his falsetto solo is a reference to buchaechum, a fan dance traditionally done by a troupe of female dancers. the fact that Jimin is the one to do this is a response to haters saying that he's too feminine, has too high of a voice, is too "girly"--like how Shallon Lester mocked him for wearing makeup on a poster and called him a girl. Jimin is singing in his falsetto (a """"""girly""""" voice), dancing with a fan traditionally used by female dancers, and looking into the camera with makeup on--essentially saying, "screw you, I love myself the way I am."
That "10, 100 parts of me" means we as human has many characters. Inside us. Sometimes we can be shy, another day a brave person. Today I'm a motivated person, next week I feel worthless. On some day I can be somewhat harsh to one person, but the next time I express my care towards them. We human has various layers of personalities, that we continue to discover throughout our life. So learn not to hate any part of ourselves even when we find it bad, learn to love ourselves, and improve. 👍
When they're talking about the 10s of thousands of them inside of themselves, I think that they're talking about how different people see them in a different ways and also how there are different sides of themselves that they show.to people. For example, JK is a singer, dancer, song writer, composer, the main vocalist, the youngest of the group. senior to the members of TXT, a painter, an athlete, etc. He's also someone slightly different to each one of their millions of fans. In addition to all of that, he's still finding new things to learn and experience, and new sides of himself on a regular basis. The other 6 members are the same. Basically, there are thousands of different sides to him, to each of them.
Idol music is not really liked by the Korean general public in fact they're actually embarrassed of it (BTS not included, however. They see them as Korea's pride). It's because the idols don't have much influence in their music and is too westernised.
As a Korean who has lived here for 20 years, Korean general public do like idol music lol If u see every korean chart u can see top ten is always filled with idol music It's rather like they tend to not acknowledge most of them as 'real artist' bc gp think they don't produce thier own music (in this case, except bts) which could be a very harmful prejudice
Idol is usually only considered "pretty faces" In the industry. Even BTS who has heavy messages inside their music and with their storyline in their mvs were criticized as if they were overstepping. Bang PD (hybe chairman) actually commented that some people just wanted pretty faces, dancing prettily, singing pretty songs. It was really hard for idols to break free from the idol image (if they want to be actors or branch out) where they have to be flawless and spotless and just... Pretty.
8:26 It's saying "I'm not the same as I was yesterday" & "there are different sides/parts of me" but I embrace all of these because after all they're all me
Korean idols are labeled as idols or other things, but not accepted as artists. As if they are on a lower level than so-called-actual artists. Many people are so close minded and only think of them as girlish performers, gay, plastic, not as valuable as singers. I find this really rude and offensive, even disgusting. So watching your videos, hearing you talk about the beauty in their work and saying that it is beautiful, without thinking that it is unmanly or cheap, makes me so happy. Because the word beautiful should not be for girls alone. It means more than that. Everything can be beautiful. You did the word beautiful justice. Thank you so much. Will continue supporting you.
david: *explains what the multiple people inside means* alex: wait but what does the multiple people inside mean? literally nothing against you. i just found it kinda funny. i do the same thing all the time and things just fly over my head
Lol... like the clip when David explained about the shark trying to attack BTS but they were unaffected and just don't care. Next, Alex asked was he not going to explain about the shark (if I heard correctly)😂😂
Besides this explanation, bts said they wanted this song to be a huge celebration as it is the end of Love Yourself series. So, they're like I love myself, including my culture and nationality.
Actually there is another explanation from xceleste. But her explanation about rabbit in the moon is slightly different with David (DKDKTV) explanation. You can check if you want.
As you were wondering about the hate BTS received, it was in twofolds. First, the hate RM and Suga received was when they left the underground rap/hip hop scene to join and train as Kpop Idols. Thus, they were deemed as betrayal by their peers. Second, David stated that in Korea, Kpop Idols are not considered as true musicians/artists and were looked down upon by their fellow countrymen and music industry.
There are things about the Love Yourself theme of IDOL that you may understand better after reading the lyrics of their song, "Answer: Love Myself," from the same album. It does not have a mv, but there are videos of their concert performances.
every BTS song always have strong meanings...BTS just being BTS they don't care what haters wan saying about them...like RM said just go in the coffee shop and just forgetting no need wasting ur energy to thinking...just simple ...
On the surface, accepting their 10,100 selves sound to me like it refers to their changing looks, style, posture even, mood etc. Fans often comment that one has been a joker is later sullen. Or another one who is light hearted composes and sings a song about being in the depths of depression. They go from slim to muscled weight lifters, from having stylists give them coordinating looks to choosing a specific design house for their own fashion. They learn so many things, like languages and instruments, that they’re never the performer by their next album. Closest to their theme, they are all working on loving themselves.
ooohh you should actually check out J-Hope’s solo music videos! Airplane and Daydream! They’re SO pretty and they use a few of the same locations but in different ways in those mv’s so they are kinda tied together.
It´s the first time i thought about it ... realizing that armys are listening or thinking about BTS 24/7 gave me chills. That´s why we see everything :D
Mulitple parts of yourself - Everyone has different faces/persona's that they show depending on the situation and who you are around. You act one way with your parents, another with siblings, another with friends, and another at work, etc. They acknowledge that they are different things to different people but they are really just all the same person. --- Map of the Soul, Carl Jung.
I have been patiently (Excitedly :D) waiting for your daily BTS uploads. Thank you very much for being real and for understanding BTS despite the cultural differences.
"10,000 persons inside me" refer to different persona everyone exhibits - one is be a son/daughter, a colleague, a friend, a neighbor, a brother/sister, mother/father, boss, subordinate, someone's enemy, etc - all in one, and in each persona we exhibit different aspects of ourselves, both consciously and subconsciously. But in BTS, this is multiplied a hundred times more. Take RM for example - he is RM, an idol and the leader of BTS, while at the same time he is also Rap Monster the kick ass rapper, Kim Nam Joon a regular korean guy, an influencer, an inspiration, etc so they carry a heavy burden. But they are saying they have learned to live with it and love themselves with all of their different persona, warts, and all
I thought it is about being a new me every day, like I'm still the same as yesterday but there is something new about me today and again tomorrow... About the 1000 people inside me
I think IDOL is partially connected to the MotS series where they discuss Persona more. When they talk about having multitudes and tens of thousands of themselves I believe they are tallking about different personas. If you are more curious about this aspect, you should watch DKDKTV's videos explaining Persona, Shadow, and Ego.
The meaning of 10, 100s of people inside me, from what I think, is that they have different personas everyday. And that a new persona is introduced everyday.
Idol music is definitely viewed as "low art" in korea. Popular, but without much artistic merit. There have been groups and individuals that have been able to break out of that mold and be taken seriously as an artist(s), but it's few and far between. The only comparison I can think of is how someone would perceive a nick/disney star starting a music career. Like they can be taken seriously, like for instance Ariana Grande, but most aren't.
The shark seems to reference an art installation where a shark is contained in a small tank. A being of so much power but now caged to be observed by others. The stage BTS is standing on mimics a cage, as to say they are now the shark inside, being observed by other sharks who are eager to devour them. This could be the entertainment industry, the media or just ill wishing onlookers. However, BTS maintains their autonomy in embracing & celebrating themselves despite all the prying eyes. The installation had a preserved shark but it’s cage is very reminiscent of BTS’s stage. See - “The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living” by Damien Hirst. It’s also notable that this installation became a symbol for British art around the world… much like BTS becoming synonymous with what people first think of when they hear of KPop or Korean music/art now. I think the Bookish Theory explanation shows the shark installation that they appear to reference. Their video also delves into some of the other art & patterns displayed throughout the MV. The drum instrumental & beat is African, so the patterns of their clothes along with several visuals also hark back to African art. I don’t recall if there was a specific country the beats were inspired by but the Gwara Gwara dance that they incorporated into their choreo is from South Africa. Cool stuff! A lot to delve into for a music video 😅.
I think the part when they say they have 10s 1000s of them inside means there are different versions of ourselves. There’s the Alex who is happy. There’s the Alex who cries. There’s the Alex that works hard. There’s also the Alex that likes to chill. All of these are different versions of Alex and accepting and welcoming them is essentially loving yourself.
next it'll be really cool if you checked “home” performance on jimmy fallon, they filmed it in korea with their own sets so it looks more like a music video with live singing.. i think you'll like it
It's interesting my mom always taught me about the rabbit in the moon too but we r south african. Maybe our country has something similar to Korea, when it come to folk tales
Appart from the Korean traditional dance- dance moves, they incorporated gwara gwara dance moves in the choreography (African dance)... And the colorful suits with ankara prints.
I no longer follow dkdktv but their explanation to Idol and Ddaeng is exceptional. Edit: SoKor's GP is notorious in judging the artist. From their looks to talents. Even they go beyond in using media as their weapon to cancel that artist. That's why some of them resorts in suicide. Artist couldn't handle the pressure their own fans and GP does to them. They have a lot of double standards, like what happened to An San (SK's elite Archer, and Triple Olympic Medallist) was cancelled by her own SK Feminist because of her haircut, like HAIRCUT?! If a woman cuts her into boycut that means it's more practical, less time in washing their hair, plus she's an athlete of course her hair should be her least priority. As for BTS, they went through with backlash, petitions for them to disband, even in person they get trashed by the speaker or interviewer, and back then when they performed it is cut by the media by not airing the performance in national tv.
In Korea, the idols were not considered as musicians. They treated them as well trained entertainers. So being looked down is not the people in general, but more of the "professional" musicians and critics. Well, it is only my opinion as another Korean.
You should also react to BTS IDOL explained by xCeleste she talks more about the visuals about how BTS purposely use CGI and filter and RM filters on Vlive
its because you think idol = celebrity when thats not the case. idols are a specific type of music in korea and kpop is not even really well liked in korea. theres whole other music industry's outside of kpop/idol music in korea. kpop is not korean pop or korean popular music. theres a entire pop scene, rock scene, hip hop scene, r&b scene, trot scene etc that are separated from kpop. kpop is seen as the disney music of korea. bts is a group that many koreans say have surpassed their idol/kpop niche and theyre true artists. many koreans will tell you kpop is not popular in korea for adults. but bts is loved by all age groups. the same can be said about singers like IU or a group like epik high who while they are signed to kpop labels (or were signed to kpop labels) theyre not really kpop. its very complicated due to the false narratives the west has about kpop and trying to push all korean artists into a box so theyre not taken seriously outside of korea/asia. in a way koreans do the same to kpop but thats a whole other conversation. you should react to bts vs kpop by bbygang and youre wrong about kpop by bbygang.
I think with the duplicate members I think it’s a clap back at haters who say “there’s too many members” or “they all look the same” Also yoongi wearing a Snow White shirt I believe is a reference to ppl calling him Snow White bc of his pale skin.
The word "idol" is used with different connotation in the west and in Korea. In the Korean music industry, they call boy bands and girl groups pop music = idol music. (They don't call it K-pop, that's a term created by western media.) "Idols" is how they call the members of girl and boy groups who sing and dance pop music. And the reason they're look down upon by the general public, it's because of the generalisation of "all mainstream pop music and young pop acts make superficial catchy music that has no substance/no deep meaning". Hiphop is a huge genre in Korea, and the reason why underground or independent rappers and fans look down upon "idol rappers", is because most idol rappers don't write their own verses... Which means most of them are not "real rappers" immersed in hiphop culture (rap comes from rhythm & poetry, being a lyricist who expresses your own personal thoughts/feelings/experience/who says your TRUTH, that is the soul of hiphop music), but simply entertainers or performers who can rap lines written for them. They are seen as people who can rap, not as "real rappers". And that is, often, a reality, but there are exceptions. So yeah, the word "idol" is NOT being used here in the sense of "star/extremely famous or sucessful person".
8:37 no they are different persons Jk is good at everything he does archery , he can paint like bob ross at the first attempt, he can direct a mv, he can sing, he can dance, he can be afraid of microwave ovens. He can be shy, he can covers songs in seetru outfits. He can outrun idols in a stadium, he can stay and help the cleaning staff.
Hi Alex! Can you react to these mv from BTS Boy with luv (feat: Halsey) Airplane pt.2 (Japanese version is only one with mv, so be careful. You would love it tho) Dope (iconic song) Fire (you like fire in their videos, so….yeah, fire)
RM was often told by some people to stop using filters during his vlive. Taehyung was once told by someone that wearing glasses doesn't suit him. But as you can see, they both did it on the IDOL MV, maybe as a sign that they don't care what haters say to them, because they love themselves.
Yess exactly!! Idk why people think they can control them 🙃
@@Star-bt8bp i personally think its because BTS treats their fans so well, that some of them think theyre entitled and truly believe that the artist owes something to them for their support lmao. these types of people were also most likely entitled prior to this, so it really shows their character
@@taras9655 I agree! I love the guys bcz of how genuine they are, but sadly it backlashes, but they still continue doing them 🥺
@@taras9655 exactly
his journey to becoming a fan is everything 😌
Hahahahah we literally here watching how Alex slowly become a BTS fan and actually fan of the Kpop industry
just let's convince him to watch some run eps ;)
@@bluemoonmichael6127 yeah maybe those episodes where they filmed the dorm skit would pique his interest 🤔
listen , some reactors just react to BTS cause of the many requests and maybe having interest but that doesnt guarantee them being a fan, so dnt get ur hopes up
ive watched thousand reactors who reacted to BTS for 2years n then lost interest
@@bembolbug yesss
The lyrics that talk about them having many selves within themselves is essentially a variation on the phrase, "I contain multitudes." Aka, I'm a complex person who is constantly changing and evolving, and I'm still learning about various aspects of myself whether that be interests, past memories resurfacing, mistakes that make me confront a darker side of myself, etc etc. They aren't cardboard cutouts; they're people, and every day they're a little different than they were the day before, because yesterday influences today and today influences tomorrow.
Very well said!
Beautifully said! May I also add that it can also reference the different personas we take on based on who we're talking to or the situation that we're in. The idol "RM" can give a wonderful speech now, but he would act more like "Namjoon" in front of his parents. And yet, both RM and Namjoon make up the same person.
I think the next MV you’ll enjoy seeing is Spine Breaker. THis one’s a totally unique one because it’s “home made” in every sense of the word since they were challenged to plan, design and shoot it themselves in a hotel while on their concert tour. The way they did everything guerrilla style using what’s on hand and one handheld cam is quite interesting I think even for non technical people like myself. The behind the scenes of how they did it is too entertaining as well
Will also need the Dkdktv explanation with it too. 🤪
Ohhhh noooo hahahahahahha
It would definitely be fun for us but I hope it would also be interesting from a filmmaker's point of view 😊
OMG YES
@@moonaking3606 well it could be. Who knows, It might remind him of his zero budget days. I’m thinking mostly everyone had to start somewhere small.
I think if you’re not Korean this video will never truly be understood but as a Korean everything made perfect sense & it made me realize how genius bts and the directors and everyone is
Same. RM and bts keep surprises me
@@andjelarakic1608 history + cultural meanings + lyrical meanings I think! even the best translated versions of lyrics cant convey the exact same feeling as the original msg
There are many personas inside one person. Example: RM is an idol, was a rapper, is a leader and also apart from all this, he is Kim Namjoon (himself) who loves art, is clumsy, loses things, is a person who thinks deeply, reads alot and so much more despite the persona he creates on stage for himself. We have different personas too. We’re different people Professionally, with friends, with family etc. So they’re saying that so many personas are within themselves but they accept it all and love themselves.
I think we should do a shout out to RM (only he took part in songwriting this one). I mean the lyricism is at it's epitome with him!! He doesn't get enough appreciation for it... Most people don't pay enough attention to lyrics and just enjoy the vibe..but if you look closely, you'll understand what the song's about and then you can enjoy it immensely 💜 I hope more people will pay attention and appreciate the songwriters
That’s my bias right there!!! ☺️💜🌱
Rm's lyrics are next level.
The lyrics are always special to me , no matter what the song is . I love BTS because they write & compose a lot of their songs . Love you BTS . Love you RM
This deserves a thousand like. And as a bilngual most of the translations of RM's lyrics NEVER DO HIM JUSTICE😢
8:22 basically it's saying that people are multidimensional. you can have many different "versions" of yourself (like your personas) but in the end it's all you. no part of you is fake and you should learn to accept every aspect of yourself in order to truly love yourself
Your notification appeared just in time hahahaha I was scrolling and bored
I was not that bored, but I like THIS more than what I was watching!!! ((Sorryy!!)) 😁😁😁😁😁😁
"there's always somebody AWAKE listening to BTS"
reminds me of what Jin said, I forgot if I read it somewhere or if I watched a video of it but he said that he never turns off his notifications on Weverse, he always have notifications cause fans always post on Weverse everytime and they're are all over the world, maybe it's nighttime in Korea but daytime in the other parts of the world and vice versa
i think he said that from his latest vlive, the one where he called bang pd nim.. or i could be wrong..
@@lexamortal maybe, i was thinking abt it while writing the comment too..
Yes he said it in his last vlive
So kore (the whale) is the name of a whale in the BTS tiny tan video of zero o’clock (a song). It’s like a mini music video with Animated BTS helping someone. You would love that to, it’s so cute and heartwarming
Tiny tan: Zero O’Clock (it’ll be named Dream On)
Every time I see Kore, all I think of is the tiny Kore charm he gave to RM
There's actually a lot more to this video than he covered. E.g. they chose the colourful over the top aesthetic on purpose bc haters would criticize them for colourful concepts. Yoongi was called pale or something by haters so he wore a snow white sweater. RM using filters bc he was criticized for using them on lives. They used an African dance and lots of traditional Korean dances too. They were also wearing modern hanboks and had traditional Korean fans. They were criticized for becoming 'too western'.
My interpretation of a few things: sitting at the table represents how they made a seat for themselves at the table to be taken seriously as artists then at the end they are in front of it bc they are beyond that level. The ship/plane and globe representing their journey to global domination.
"They have literally created such a big empire to where the sun will never set. There's always somebody awake listening to BTS." -- SO TRUE!!!
There has always been a prejudice about idols in Korea that they are not 'real artist' bc they think they don't make their own music and produced by the company even though general public do enjoy their music
People have been criticizing them for those reasons which could be true in some ways but still be false in many ways. but i think bts really has been changing that kind of perspective
And as a Korean, i think this explanation was good for me and pretty understandable!
alex, it's really hard to spend a day without watching new uploads from you everyday, explains why i'm so early bcs i kept refreshing my feed waiting for you
i know right? i keep refreshing my youtube lmao
Same here...
Koreans don't actually look at Idol music as real music. Kpop is a separate genre within Korean music, the overall Korean public actually prefer solo artists who do ballads, rnb, and trot as well as indie bands. Kpop is on the same level as Disney music in Korea basically, a Korean fan said if you were to ask any random Korean on the street to name a Kpop group today it will probably be BTS, Blackpink, Brave Girls, Twice and that's it. Kpop is made to appeal to western audiences, hence all the English in the songs, names, having English/Japanese speakers in the group, having foreign members in the group, etc. I'm assuming you live in the U.S, think about all of your close friends, family and acquaintances, how many of them regularly listen to music outside of their native language or follow foreign celebrities?? Well it's the same in Korea. As mentioned before Kpop is made to appeal to the west hence all the rap, hip hop, edm, rock influences, which is why it is HUGE amongst the international audience and someone like yourself who is very new to the genre would have no idea that Kpop isn't actually as popular in Korea as it is overseas.
I hope he reads thiss to help his confusion
exactly, that´s why BTS is beyond Kpop
Hello, I am a Korean living in Korea. I can't say what you said is wrong, but I hope you think not all Koreans ignore idol music. Idol music is one of the genres of kpop in Korea, so idol music is considered that way by the older generation just as the younger generation does not prefer the trot you mentioned. I think the reason why you think idols are being ignored in Korea is because older generations are mainly dominating the media with power. So the younger generation in Korea never ignores idol music.
And although idol entertainment has no choice but to run idols considering overseas markets to make money, plz don't say that idol music is only for overseas markets. You know what? It's because of the hard work and love of Korean idol fans that you got to know about Kpop and idols. That's one of the I want you to know. And I hope you don't rely on Internet information when you talk about Korea, but talk to Koreans in person. (especially young generation) But the in-depth criticism of Korea's view of idols was very good. Thank you!
It’s a bit interesting that they don’t listen to music in foreign languages. I live in europe, and here it’s very common to listen to music in english, like VERY common. Also music in other languages as Swedish, Spanish, French and such as well
@@user-tt8nj4wr9p oh yea i totally understand your explaination too! Indeed there are a high number of young korean audience that loves kpop but its just the older generations who prefer trot and all over it ! 😁👍
Only people who have been loyal everyday to Alex reaction of BTS understand the pain of waiting new upload😂.. did you notice the time of upload is different compare to his early reactions when he first dive into BTS?if yes then you are with me😂💜
Yeees hahah totally
I have been watching since he started and I don’t get the upload difference???
@@Jules.Rae.Author i think i can see the difference, but its okay to me haha i dont think its a problem 😅
@@Jules.Rae.Author I mean the time he used to upload new video is different now..before this he upload new video in the morning(my time zone) and I saw it as soon as I wake up but now its a little bit late sometimes in the evening or afternoon😂.. but I guess its still okay since he still upload regularly💜
I think that the next one you should react to is Spine Breaker by BTS! It's completely homemade by them, including the choreo and their clothes! The original is on a site called Vlive and the video is called: "BTS GAYO - track 15". The whole video is a process of them making the MV and at the end there's the final product! It's really fun, I think you'll enjoy it!
You should be quoted on this --- "They have created such a huge empire where the sun literally never sets. There's a person somewhere in the globe awake listening to BTS."
I'm really enjoying his journey, it's like I'm being a baby ARMY again. Even if I was alrdy here since 2017 😌
Same - it's like reliving my own journey!! So much fun to watch!! I fell for BTS in 2016 and never looked back!! I will be ARMY to the end!!
I would like to add one more explanation. "Idol" in Korea is a little bit different with the English meaning. It is a word to call all boy/girl bands in Korea, so it is more like a "job." Usually there is a producer that makes their songs, and the boy/girl band will be trained to sing, dance and handle interviews etc. Even if one is not famous, if the person has gone through this process, s/he will say her/his job is an idol. This is why musicians look down and don't think they do actual music. However, the idol industry in Korea is evolving, so more and more idols are also trained to produce and compose.
The idols might be looked down by other musicians, but for other people, many admire them, as we commonly agree that it takes a lot of work and effort to get trained, usually 3-4 years or even more. 3-4 years of your teen life is a big thing!
I hope this helped you understand the Korean culture a little bit more. :)
the dance that Jimin does with the fan during his falsetto solo is a reference to buchaechum, a fan dance traditionally done by a troupe of female dancers. the fact that Jimin is the one to do this is a response to haters saying that he's too feminine, has too high of a voice, is too "girly"--like how Shallon Lester mocked him for wearing makeup on a poster and called him a girl. Jimin is singing in his falsetto (a """"""girly""""" voice), dancing with a fan traditionally used by female dancers, and looking into the camera with makeup on--essentially saying, "screw you, I love myself the way I am."
The shark was representative of the haters that they were ignoring. It was like they had created their own shark cage they were dancing in. 💜👍🏻
"there's always someone listenning to bts song", hits differently....
That "10, 100 parts of me" means we as human has many characters. Inside us. Sometimes we can be shy, another day a brave person. Today I'm a motivated person, next week I feel worthless. On some day I can be somewhat harsh to one person, but the next time I express my care towards them.
We human has various layers of personalities, that we continue to discover throughout our life. So learn not to hate any part of ourselves even when we find it bad, learn to love ourselves, and improve. 👍
When they're talking about the 10s of thousands of them inside of themselves, I think that they're talking about how different people see them in a different ways and also how there are different sides of themselves that they show.to people. For example, JK is a singer, dancer, song writer, composer, the main vocalist, the youngest of the group. senior to the members of TXT, a painter, an athlete, etc. He's also someone slightly different to each one of their millions of fans. In addition to all of that, he's still finding new things to learn and experience, and new sides of himself on a regular basis. The other 6 members are the same. Basically, there are thousands of different sides to him, to each of them.
Idol music is not really liked by the Korean general public in fact they're actually embarrassed of it (BTS not included, however. They see them as Korea's pride). It's because the idols don't have much influence in their music and is too westernised.
As a Korean who has lived here for 20 years, Korean general public do like idol music lol
If u see every korean chart u can see top ten is always filled with idol music
It's rather like they tend to not acknowledge most of them as 'real artist' bc gp think they don't produce thier own music (in this case, except bts) which could be a very harmful prejudice
@@user-kc8iu9zq8c what I've said is based on what some K-Armys have said on twitter so yeah
Idol is usually only considered "pretty faces" In the industry. Even BTS who has heavy messages inside their music and with their storyline in their mvs were criticized as if they were overstepping. Bang PD (hybe chairman) actually commented that some people just wanted pretty faces, dancing prettily, singing pretty songs. It was really hard for idols to break free from the idol image (if they want to be actors or branch out) where they have to be flawless and spotless and just... Pretty.
8:26
It's saying "I'm not the same as I was yesterday" & "there are different sides/parts of me" but I embrace all of these because after all they're all me
I haven’t actually watched DKDkTV’s explanation vid for Idol before so i laughed so hard when they referenced Jin’s “condom scandal” in the video 😂
I completely forgot about it. I remember being so baffled as to why there was such an upset when it happened. Dumbest shit lol. Let them men live.
사랑 (Sarang) is 'love' and 사랑해 (Saranghae) is 'I love you' 💕
Korean idols are labeled as idols or other things, but not accepted as artists. As if they are on a lower level than so-called-actual artists. Many people are so close minded and only think of them as girlish performers, gay, plastic, not as valuable as singers. I find this really rude and offensive, even disgusting. So watching your videos, hearing you talk about the beauty in their work and saying that it is beautiful, without thinking that it is unmanly or cheap, makes me so happy. Because the word beautiful should not be for girls alone. It means more than that. Everything can be beautiful. You did the word beautiful justice. Thank you so much. Will continue supporting you.
"There's always somebody awake listening to BTS" - Alex, 2021
Facts!
In Korea , actors and actresses has a higher status than idols and comedians/entertainers
david: *explains what the multiple people inside means*
alex: wait but what does the multiple people inside mean?
literally nothing against you. i just found it kinda funny. i do the same thing all the time and things just fly over my head
Lol... like the clip when David explained about the shark trying to attack BTS but they were unaffected and just don't care. Next, Alex asked was he not going to explain about the shark (if I heard correctly)😂😂
@@emilyl1094 yeah omg i almost made a comment about that too😂
SHARK : HATERS, MUSIC INDUSTRY.
BARS: ARMY. We're gonna protect them for ever!!!!!! 💜
I get them pretty late at night, but I'm always so happy to see notifications for your videos
I'm not gonna lie, I almost screamed when I saw the notification 😅💜
Besides this explanation, bts said they wanted this song to be a huge celebration as it is the end of Love Yourself series. So, they're like I love myself, including my culture and nationality.
Actually there is another explanation from xceleste. But her explanation about rabbit in the moon is slightly different with David (DKDKTV) explanation. You can check if you want.
Hm, i don’t think i’ve seen that one yet. I guess a big part of the difference would be that she’s not from a korean cultural standpoint
I love the coincidence that happened here! I just finished my Homework and this came up and I'm so exited...
8:08 i think what they meant by "10, 100 of myself exist" is the different personas that they have
As you were wondering about the hate BTS received, it was in twofolds.
First, the hate RM and Suga received was when they left the underground rap/hip hop scene to join and train as Kpop Idols. Thus, they were deemed as betrayal by their peers.
Second, David stated that in Korea, Kpop Idols are not considered as true musicians/artists and were looked down upon by their fellow countrymen and music industry.
In this mv, they do a lot of things that haters talk bout them like cgi, rm using filters, v wearing glasses, korean references and like a lot more
Idol,baepsae and Ddaemg these three songs just shows how incredibly genius RM is when it come to songwriting
There are things about the Love Yourself theme of IDOL that you may understand better after reading the lyrics of their song, "Answer: Love Myself," from the same album. It does not have a mv, but there are videos of their concert performances.
every BTS song always have strong meanings...BTS just being BTS they don't care what haters wan saying about them...like RM said just go in the coffee shop and just forgetting no need wasting ur energy to thinking...just simple ...
On the surface, accepting their 10,100 selves sound to me like it refers to their changing looks, style, posture even, mood etc. Fans often comment that one has been a joker is later sullen. Or another one who is light hearted composes and sings a song about being in the depths of depression. They go from slim to muscled weight lifters, from having stylists give them coordinating looks to choosing a specific design house for their own fashion. They learn so many things, like languages and instruments, that they’re never the performer by their next album. Closest to their theme, they are all working on loving themselves.
I really appreciate the effort and time you put into actually understanding BTS. 💜 watching you journey is absolutely wholesome.
ooohh you should actually check out J-Hope’s solo music videos! Airplane and Daydream! They’re SO pretty and they use a few of the same locations but in different ways in those mv’s so they are kinda tied together.
It´s the first time i thought about it ... realizing that armys are listening or thinking about BTS 24/7 gave me chills. That´s why we see everything :D
Mulitple parts of yourself - Everyone has different faces/persona's that they show depending on the situation and who you are around. You act one way with your parents, another with siblings, another with friends, and another at work, etc. They acknowledge that they are different things to different people but they are really just all the same person. --- Map of the Soul, Carl Jung.
I have been patiently (Excitedly :D) waiting for your daily BTS uploads. Thank you very much for being real and for understanding BTS despite the cultural differences.
I'm basically having a reaction marathon here and I love your insights!
"10,000 persons inside me" refer to different persona everyone exhibits - one is be a son/daughter, a colleague, a friend, a neighbor, a brother/sister, mother/father, boss, subordinate, someone's enemy, etc - all in one, and in each persona we exhibit different aspects of ourselves, both consciously and subconsciously.
But in BTS, this is multiplied a hundred times more. Take RM for example - he is RM, an idol and the leader of BTS, while at the same time he is also Rap Monster the kick ass rapper, Kim Nam Joon a regular korean guy, an influencer, an inspiration, etc so they carry a heavy burden. But they are saying they have learned to live with it and love themselves with all of their different persona, warts, and all
I thought it is about being a new me every day, like I'm still the same as yesterday but there is something new about me today and again tomorrow... About the 1000 people inside me
That person would be me. Awake. Listening to bts.
Im loving how we're witnessing him become a fan 🤣 like, not all reactors go this deep in understanding stuff our boys does✨
There were those whole bunch of references in this video but still it leaves this feeling that it's more than just what we can see
Wow i never get this exited to watch a reaction video!
This is why i love bts.
I think IDOL is partially connected to the MotS series where they discuss Persona more. When they talk about having multitudes and tens of thousands of themselves I believe they are tallking about different personas. If you are more curious about this aspect, you should watch DKDKTV's videos explaining Persona, Shadow, and Ego.
The meaning of 10, 100s of people inside me, from what I think, is that they have different personas everyday. And that a new persona is introduced everyday.
Idol music is definitely viewed as "low art" in korea. Popular, but without much artistic merit. There have been groups and individuals that have been able to break out of that mold and be taken seriously as an artist(s), but it's few and far between. The only comparison I can think of is how someone would perceive a nick/disney star starting a music career. Like they can be taken seriously, like for instance Ariana Grande, but most aren't.
bts idol explained by a korean is one of my favorite videos, i’ve seen it so many times
''there's always someone awake listening to BTS''
The shark seems to reference an art installation where a shark is contained in a small tank. A being of so much power but now caged to be observed by others. The stage BTS is standing on mimics a cage, as to say they are now the shark inside, being observed by other sharks who are eager to devour them. This could be the entertainment industry, the media or just ill wishing onlookers. However, BTS maintains their autonomy in embracing & celebrating themselves despite all the prying eyes. The installation had a preserved shark but it’s cage is very reminiscent of BTS’s stage. See - “The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living” by Damien Hirst. It’s also notable that this installation became a symbol for British art around the world… much like BTS becoming synonymous with what people first think of when they hear of KPop or Korean music/art now. I think the Bookish Theory explanation shows the shark installation that they appear to reference. Their video also delves into some of the other art & patterns displayed throughout the MV. The drum instrumental & beat is African, so the patterns of their clothes along with several visuals also hark back to African art. I don’t recall if there was a specific country the beats were inspired by but the Gwara Gwara dance that they incorporated into their choreo is from South Africa. Cool stuff! A lot to delve into for a music video 😅.
I think the part when they say they have 10s 1000s of them inside means there are different versions of ourselves. There’s the Alex who is happy. There’s the Alex who cries. There’s the Alex that works hard. There’s also the Alex that likes to chill. All of these are different versions of Alex and accepting and welcoming them is essentially loving yourself.
That's why we suggested to do both explanation 😅
next it'll be really cool if you checked “home” performance on jimmy fallon, they filmed it in korea with their own sets so it looks more like a music video with live singing.. i think you'll like it
yey!!! i've been waiting for this!!! thank you!!! 💜💜💜
Been waiting for this.
It's interesting my mom always taught me about the rabbit in the moon too but we r south african. Maybe our country has something similar to Korea, when it come to folk tales
Face off was so dope 7:13 what a cool movie 🎥
Appart from the Korean traditional dance- dance moves, they incorporated gwara gwara dance moves in the choreography (African dance)... And the colorful suits with ankara prints.
Yehey its up! Been waiting for this after you MV reaction😊
I think you really should look at the 2018 MMA performance of IDOL, you would love the staging
This was awesome! Thank you 💜
I no longer follow dkdktv but their explanation to Idol and Ddaeng is exceptional.
Edit: SoKor's GP is notorious in judging the artist. From their looks to talents. Even they go beyond in using media as their weapon to cancel that artist. That's why some of them resorts in suicide. Artist couldn't handle the pressure their own fans and GP does to them. They have a lot of double standards, like what happened to An San (SK's elite Archer, and Triple Olympic Medallist) was cancelled by her own SK Feminist because of her haircut, like HAIRCUT?! If a woman cuts her into boycut that means it's more practical, less time in washing their hair, plus she's an athlete of course her hair should be her least priority.
As for BTS, they went through with backlash, petitions for them to disband, even in person they get trashed by the speaker or interviewer, and back then when they performed it is cut by the media by not airing the performance in national tv.
I wasss waitingg for this one since yesterdayyy
You should watch their performances of Idol! It's unreal!!!!
jhope's singles Daydream, Ego and chicken noodle soup are amazing dude, Please react to those mvs too. jaeballl
In Korea, the idols were not considered as musicians. They treated them as well trained entertainers. So being looked down is not the people in general, but more of the "professional" musicians and critics. Well, it is only my opinion as another Korean.
alex that's why we were saying you're gonna miss details if you watch either of the explanations and not both of the ones you asked us to pick from
You should also react to BTS IDOL explained by xCeleste she talks more about the visuals about how BTS purposely use CGI and filter and RM filters on Vlive
It's my first time hearing this explanation I've never watched this in other reaction channel cause I like your channel
I didn't expect to be in that meaning omg
finally. thank you 💜
its because you think idol = celebrity when thats not the case.
idols are a specific type of music in korea and kpop is not even really well liked in korea.
theres whole other music industry's outside of kpop/idol music in korea. kpop is not korean pop or korean popular music.
theres a entire pop scene, rock scene, hip hop scene, r&b scene, trot scene etc that are separated from kpop. kpop is seen as the disney music of korea. bts is a group that many koreans say have surpassed their idol/kpop niche and theyre true artists.
many koreans will tell you kpop is not popular in korea for adults. but bts is loved by all age groups.
the same can be said about singers like IU or a group like epik high who while they are signed to kpop labels (or were signed to kpop labels) theyre not really kpop.
its very complicated due to the false narratives the west has about kpop and trying to push all korean artists into a box so theyre not taken seriously outside of korea/asia. in a way koreans do the same to kpop but thats a whole other conversation.
you should react to bts vs kpop by bbygang and youre wrong about kpop by bbygang.
Yeyyy! I waited this since yesterday.
I think with the duplicate members I think it’s a clap back at haters who say “there’s too many members” or “they all look the same”
Also yoongi wearing a Snow White shirt I believe is a reference to ppl calling him Snow White bc of his pale skin.
I remember watching his reaction to Butter then now to "as an American fan of BTS"
Yay. ..loving your journey.
Can't wait til you see the shooting sketch! Side note: Red looks so good on you and this camera
The word "idol" is used with different connotation in the west and in Korea. In the Korean music industry, they call boy bands and girl groups pop music = idol music. (They don't call it K-pop, that's a term created by western media.) "Idols" is how they call the members of girl and boy groups who sing and dance pop music. And the reason they're look down upon by the general public, it's because of the generalisation of "all mainstream pop music and young pop acts make superficial catchy music that has no substance/no deep meaning". Hiphop is a huge genre in Korea, and the reason why underground or independent rappers and fans look down upon "idol rappers", is because most idol rappers don't write their own verses... Which means most of them are not "real rappers" immersed in hiphop culture (rap comes from rhythm & poetry, being a lyricist who expresses your own personal thoughts/feelings/experience/who says your TRUTH, that is the soul of hiphop music), but simply entertainers or performers who can rap lines written for them. They are seen as people who can rap, not as "real rappers". And that is, often, a reality, but there are exceptions.
So yeah, the word "idol" is NOT being used here in the sense of "star/extremely famous or sucessful person".
I loved the part when you said at the end of the video: There's always someone listening to BTS somewhere 💜
It is Sooo True! 😎
Regards from Japan 😊
8:37 no they are different persons
Jk is good at everything he does archery , he can paint like bob ross at the first attempt, he can direct a mv, he can sing, he can dance, he can be afraid of microwave ovens. He can be shy, he can covers songs in seetru outfits. He can outrun idols in a stadium, he can stay and help the cleaning staff.
Hi Alex! Can you react to these mv from BTS
Boy with luv (feat: Halsey)
Airplane pt.2 (Japanese version is only one with mv, so be careful. You would love it tho)
Dope (iconic song)
Fire (you like fire in their videos, so….yeah, fire)
I wish you could also watch their self-made skits in Run BTS. 💜 Love your reaction vids. ✨
I've been waiting😍..I really love alex reactions to BTS..next watch shooting sketch please😍..