Web Appraisal: Pre-Columbian Peruvian Collection
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024
- John Buxton appraises a Pre-Columbian Peruvian Collection.
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"I want to claw my way through this glass, pick it up, and sniff it and lick it."
He's just adorable.
I love when the appraisers really get excited over a piece. It just makes the show that much more enjoyable.
that background ambience is such a trip man. One of the most underrated tv soundtracks of all time.
ASMR
2:47 No man, that is someone at a party holding a beer and feeling uncomfortable.
Something made in BC is only 100 thousand but a Paul Newman Rolex is worth 17 million, wtf?
lol init
@rain Alaska ok.id rather listen to you than a man who has spent 20+years studying artefacts.
Things are worth what others value.
It's a buyers market. You get what a buyer wants to pay. In this case, the presenter alludes to the UNESCO treaty of 1970. Which doesn't necessarily exclude this, because they, I feel , should be returned to Peru. But that's not my decision. My thoughts on the value are linked to the said treaty. Why? Because of the fact that many in the market feel they should be and therefore the value is limited by that.
In pure gold ounces, is soft plurable gold in general. Weight is not high.
If i owned that sh*t I'd put them on thick fake gold chains and wear them like a black rapper... "bling, bling"
1:53 "I want to claw my way through this glass, pick it up, and sniff it and lick it. Don't do that!" 😂
You can tell a lot about the gold by sniffing and licking it!
He was talking about her.
She's clearly without a sense of humor.
This guy is a descendant of the prospector from the Rudolph movie. *tap tap tap....lick lick* “nuthin!”
@@bobotompkins thank you for today's grin!
stunning collection
Incredible to see objects that old.
Beyond fascinating
“It belongs in a museum.... in South America “, Indiana Jones
thank you, yes, bring them back.
Yes, no really... give them back.
It's not costing you anything so give it back
Lol theifs..... Her father probably bought them from a shop.... I highly doubt the physiotherapist was high jacking these artifacts. So basically in you idiots world that buying something from any country and bringing it back to your own is thievery.
@Rothschild Killed JFK right, because this was during a wartime right, it's comparable....
@Rothschild Killed JFK Yeah and so was 911
The acquisition before the time period may be legal, but it most definitely is not ethical, its like Queen Victoria claiming the kohinoor diamond was a gift to her when everyone knows it was forcibly taken from the maharajah by his English "guardian". I hope she does the right thing and donates it to a museum.
Unesco protections were put in place because Europeans felt entitled to take items of cultural significance back as souvenirs, it is theft. The very definition of entitled privilege.
There's enough in museums that nobody goes to. Who cares 😴
They put our forefathers in concentration camps and stole our resources
how many meals were put on the tables of locals by the presence of people collecting these artifacts. cultural significance means nothing when your kids are hungry.
Wow! Two people responded who showed no lack of greater understanding! I guess that’s why “we” have to put rules on things. Jerks are all around and ignorance isn’t just “bliss” now a days. Food on tables and the notion that stuff happens isn’t an excuse; hence the initial post.
As it was (we believe) bought in good faith, before the "rules" - perhaps it could be offered back to Peru at a reasonable, agreed cost in the same way. Some stuff just needs to go home.
No. Peru can contact her and make an offer and why must it be 'reasonable'? It should be market value.
They should not even have these items on this show. Notice how first half spent on excusing themselves from any legal actions. And the piece from 'before Jesus Christ' - despicable.
People need to realize how complex history is. In the past, these items weren't very valuable. If you buy something today, it should be yours in the future even if it becomes valuable for reasons we can't foresee now.
@@Mrrane-d7r anything that old is priceless. Anyone that buys, steals or is gifted something like this is involved with theft at some rate.
A few thousand years from now they’ll be appraising the bottle of booze and pack of cigarettes that someone has stolen from my father’s grave.
In the words of Indian Jones…all of this belongs in a museum
In Peru
Then a museum should buy it.
"It belongs in a museum!"
In a peruvian museum
Wrong. I visited the Museum of Anthropology in Mexico City in 1986. Ten years later, 1/3 of what I saw had been pilfered by museum employee's and sold to the underground. Third world countries are NOT the best place for their own antiquities. They simply vanish and for very little money.
I'm not gonna sit here and get lectured by a man named after a dog! sheesh...
Who is “Indiana Jones”
@@kosmos1957 Prove it bitch
Were you sitting there recording them when they sold it? Museums do not always display everything. They take in and pull out objects.
I'd sell it to a museum for future generations to appreciate it. They would def take care longer than a personal collector who would eventually have to sell or pass it down to someone before they died.
Museums often don’t take care of items and have them in the wrong climate, destroying them. Sometimes private owners do a far better job of preserving items.
If we're discussing a public museum, like anyone else, they need funding to acquire items. Ultimately, it boils down to how your tax dollars should be allocated.
I don’t think this kind of relics are priced for only 100k usd, it’s a national treasure!!
It's not a national treasure, it's a a private one.
Should be given (possibly sold) to the Peruvian people or museums
@@Handleweary why?
@@Pickledill710 imagine I break into your home and you find me 50 years later auctioning off one of your beloved watches, which is deemed legal btw, how would you feel? Would you still say why?
@@bsame imagine I sold you all my watches 50 years ago, and then today I show up outside your house saying you stole them because you’re a different race, and demanding you give them back.
The gold alone is probably worth at least $50k in melt. I'd expect this collection to be worth a lot more than his estimate.
Priceless. I wish she had it within herself to give it back to the Peruvian people so that it could be in a museum there. That would be ideal.
So that it can disappear forever ? I visited the Museum of Anthropology in Mexico City in 1986. By 1992, 1/3 of the artifacts I saw had disappeared. Theft by museum staff and local politicians. Some things are safer in the hands of another country, especially when they are from 3rd world countries like Mexico and Peru.
@@kosmos1957,
Yep, they might just think "stupid lady", and immediately sell the pieces.
@@kosmos1957 do you have evidence of that? Or was it possible that the artifcats were rotated and simply in storage or being preserved by someone behind the scenes, while a new exhibition of items was placed out? That is very common. What an accusation to make without any sound proof! Treasures like these are NEVER better off out of the country of origin and in greedy private collector's hands.
@@aosangel Those countries are notiriously corrupt and you are asking for proof of that? How about shush abd be less obviously stupid and ignorant.
Cute anecdote? Any evidence?
These treasures MUST BE BROUGHT BACK to Peru!!
They paid for it fair and square how about you mind your own business!
Why? They were sold by Peru. Ia Peru going to oay her the 100k to get them back? If not, then she can keep it all or sell to whoever she wants.
Now now, sir, we will not have you licking the artifacts. LOL.
They should go back to a museum in Peru.
how are Boston red stockings cards worth $1 million dollars and these pure gold artifacts older than Jesus are worth $100K?!? WHAT?!?! These are worth 10s of millions. Literally $20-50 million dollars
As historic objects they are of course priceless, but museums do not pay you for the items, or at least not as high as private collectors.
If it comes down to profit, items are worth what people are willing to pay for them.
The market for baseball cards and such is huge but how many people collect peruvian items? High prices are generated if a lot of people want something and start fighting over it, that's why sometimes auctions go crazy and go up to way higher prices than estimated.
Also you need to consider that in this price-range it is not only collecting, it is investing. And the potential profits and rise in prices are much higher for things like baseball cards, comics etc. than peruvian art and jewlery.
Geographus666 yes, it's all about how in demand the items are
Geographus666 I believe you are right, but regardless, it does not denote the shame in how truly undervalued these items are.
I was watching another episode of a ring from 1200-1300 ad get appraised for something like 10-25k$. To me, if I were a millionaire, Id have no problem paying obscene amounts for gold and jewels thousands of years old. Of course, I would absolutely loan it to a museum for public display, but just the ability to handle something as old as this and possess ownership of it.. Thats just nearly priceless.
Logan Flynn He said CONSERVATIVE, meaning it's much more valuable than his initial estimate.
First, these artifacts are made of gold and other materials that stand the test of time. Second, they were considered valuable at the time of their creation, and were treated as such. Third, there are literally thousands of these and similar artifacts, but most are in museums at this point, which makes personal collections very valuable. Finally, old baseball cards are made of cheap paper and people generally saw no value in them in the first place, and so treated them poorly.
Age is not the only factor when determining value., but yours is a good question as I am sure a lot of people wonder the same thing.
That is the most underestimated value of all time. 3 rhino horn cups were valued at 1.5 million and so many other million dollar valuations on roadshow. Only a king would have things like the golden god with emeralds and rubies 2 thousand years ago and it’s worth 50 grand. I don’t think so, a private collector or museum wants the collection and has corrupted someone to give a low valuation so they can get it. Even Rick at the pawnshop would’ve paid half a million. Anyway it’s been stolen from a graveyard. How do these people get away grave robbing when it’s highly illegal. Someone has been buried with their belongings for use in the afterlife. They had contact with the Gods and were sure it was real. Maybe when these tomb robbers die they’ll be confronted by Mayan Kings and Egyptian Pharaohs like Ramses the Great demanding to know why they stole their possessions. Now that would be scary
Agreed these artifacts are totally priceless.
You lost me in the second half.
I don't know, how DO the Peruvians who looted those graves get away with it?
Give it back! This is the 21st century.
Waaaay underestimated price. Worth well over a million. Priceless actually...
So... you know more than the experts. Okey doke.
It should be respected as such, but all old things, even significant ones, has a price
Hmm even if these items came out before the ban in 1970, which is doubtful, they should be returned. There was a ban for a reason, the culture and history was being sold and traded away and it cannot be replicated, or in other words pillaging.
But money and greed always come first and she's apparently the "owner" of these items, even though she and her father who appropriated them, have no cultural identity or connection to them. 😒 Quite sad really that this sort of thing still goes on.
This also happened with Mayan artifacts.
Yeah, the money and greed of the Peruvians who looted it and sold it! It doesn't belong to them anymore. They can buy it back.
Incredible
Pick it up, sniff it and lick it. Knew a girl who lived by that motto
Please return these sacred artifacts to the Peruvian nation. They should be in a museum collection and appreciated as such.
Peruvians looted it and sold it, its not theirs anymore. They can buy it back.
This should be returned to South America.
Peruvians looted it and sold it, its not theirs anymore. They can buy it back.
Since I gotta frame it, I’ll give you like $300 man. Not a penny more. -Big Hoss
Return where it belongs . Peru . It’s theirs
Peruvians looted it and sold it, its not theirs anymore. They can buy it back.
Amazing collections of Peru Artifacts; lucky the winner will be!
My father was a geophysicist........Of course he was.
Isn't everyone's father?
Can I buy it so it can be returned back to my country please?
Keep in mind that the guy (her father) that bought it, bought this stuff from Peruvians, and paid them a lot more than any Peruvian would have. Of course if he's there more than a decade, raises his little girl there, then he is somewhat Peruvian himself. In any case, he obviously appreciated these things more than at least some Peruvians did at the time. The reason they are today safe, preserved, on TV, and in good hands for the moment, is because of that guy. Don't be too quick to demand it back right now. It's not going anywhere.
Geoff Graham yea sure they had more money to appreciate art ,you can appreciate art when you can’t feed your family it’s a common practice to con this indigenous people that have only field work no a lot of income but sure A TOURIST HAS MORE OF A CONNECTIONS WITH MESO AMERICAN ART SURE
So you can sniff it and lick it
Sure, for a price.
Can you guarantee that it won't be almost immediately stolen by your authorities?
"It belongs in a museum"... I'd have to return them to the Peruvian museum.
The second most valuable stuff to come from Peru.
🤣
Cocaine, lol
I'd be afraid to have that in my home. It belongs to the people it was taken from. It should be in a museum.
Those people are long gone and the people that discovered should have it otherwise it would still be in the ground, Finders keeper loser weepers.
@J M Looters? No
It was taken from the ground
It wasn't "taken from" anyone. Peruvians looted it and sold it, its not theirs anymore. They can buy it back.
"Debemos preocuparnos que salieran en un momento legal "( momento legal para robar, no les gusta usar esa palabra pero saben que fue robado ) ella no sabe nada de esto!!, solo tiene ignorancia por lo que robaron y ganas de hacer dinero. lo unico increible para esta mujer es cuando le dicen cuanto vale. que triste que este robado en eeuu, deberia estar en peru
THE PEOPLE OF PERU STOLE IT! Peruvians destroyed ancient burial grounds of their own people desecrated the graves and sold whatever they could for whatever they could get. Don't blame this on the only people who truly valued these pieces who came from foreign countries!!! GIVE ME A BREAK! You can't steal it and sell it and then blame the people who bought it for disrespecting it, that's pure f-ing nonsense!
It should be in Peru, you're right. And it still would be if PERUVIANS DIDN'T LOOT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!
That's some kind of God...
Well, sire, you are undoubtedly a great expert and knowledgeable too!
sniff it and lick it
....don't do that
Lmao. He's a passionate appraiser.
I bet he does
it's what i tell my girlfriend also
Its definitely worth 7 figures but belong to a museum in Peru, should be given back.
Peruvians looted it and sold it, its not theirs anymore. They can buy it back.
Need an updated valuation on this one -
To the people here virtue signaling about theft of heritage and grave robbing,
If you were to separate yourself from the space time continuum and be able to view each 'culture' or civilization's 'artifacts' you would see that the entirety of humanity's culture and heritage is based upon the forced and voluntary relocation of both artifacts and people from one region to another. There would be very few cultures of any size, historical importance or duration that were not both victor and vanquished at some point in their history. Diaspora and conquest has been the hand that has shaped and formed humanity, it is often, far too often from a subjective perspective, a very horrible and ugly process, but it is the process that we went through. For every sin you count inflicted upon you or the last 5 generations of your 'people', there is at least one that just a little further back your 'people' inflicted upon another. Let us not forget that the people that created these items were themselves very war like and brutal in their culture. They were also architects and builders and the planners of great cities as well as creators of great artistic works and what went for literature at the time. They looked at the sky and divined a pretty accurate cosmological system that in some ways stands up to scrutiny even today. They also made unprovoked wars of resource and prestige upon weaker states, owned slaves and engaged in human trafficking and sacrifice to appease gods of their own creation while promulgating a cleric state that hoarded resources and used slaves as a labor force.
None are innocent if you look back far enough. And the perpetually impoverished are rarely conquered because they offer no spoils for the conquering. If your people are subjugated its because they had something worth taking, which they likely got in the same way it was taken from them. We have to reach pretty far back in history to find some people who were the first conquered people.
@Steven Turner please point out something i am wrong about.
Are you white?
@@aosangel why does that matter.
It doesnt make it right. We are evolving and many people now think its wrong to keep such antiquities for oneself, rather than return them to their place and culture of origin. Its just the decent thing to do.
"the entirety of humanity's culture and heritage is based upon the forced and voluntary relocation of both artifacts and people from one region to another"
No, not the entirety.
Very recently, through the advent of world wide spanning technology, these concepts are being challenged, as to their moral validity. Change through global awareness is now possible, and is not just a virtue signal, but a real effort to right previous wrongs.
Great collection.
50-100k? That’s nothing it’s it’s gold. He also said some pieces mug be before Christ
It doesn't look like a scepter he is holding to me. It looks like a torch.
I had a teacher in high school who lived in Peru and they had solid gold balls and artifacts from graves that were looted and then she smuggled them into the US it was unbelievable to hold that stuff in your hand!
“My Father was a Geophysicist and he “appreciated” archeological items”.
Hmmm
Appreciated is such a nice way to say Grave robber.
Dispicable
THESE ITEMS SHOULKD BE RETURNED TO A PERUVIAN MUSEUM
Peruvians looted it and sold it, its not theirs anymore. They can buy it back.
this should be at an Peruvian museum
The a Peruvian museum should buy them.
There's no way that's worth only 50-100k.
If you could publically sell it without it being siezed before sale.
@@allanfifield8256 Why would it be seized, by whom and under what authority.
@@quietquitter6103 You are pretty naive.
@@quietquitter6103 Try the Peruvian government.
@@allanfifield8256 They can't seize private property from a United States citizen, let alone anyone else. Try harder.
Reminds me of Warehouse 13 :)).
Talk about intrinsic value...
"I want to roll around naked on a pile of pre-Columbian Peruvian artifacts."
just a change for what is really worth as a real Peruana legacy.
“don’t do that.” Lmao
Her father obviously didn't dig up a grave to steal this stuff lol. He purchased them from someone who owned them and they got it from someone who owned it before them. The items are over 2,000 years old! There isn't anything wrong with purchasing antiques
@National Socialism That’s quite the assumption that the person who sold them was a grave digger. You have no idea. You also have no idea what the fate of those objects would be if he hadn’t bought them. I think they’re nice, end of story
@Don Juan yep. Her type plundered the planet.
@@pgarciaAP What's her type?
"We plundered Peru before there was a law against it. Mainly the primitive art. Look, we got some burial masks!"
"Sweet! If you stole it before 1970, you can trade these ancient artifacts with similarly minded looters."
No shame in their greed.
Peruvians plundered Peru, thank you very much!
Give it back to a museum in Peru. Sorry but this is where it belongs.
Peruvians looted it and sold it, its not theirs anymore. They can buy it back.
Obviously someone was buried with this stuff on. Wouldn’t be surprised if they come back with the bones and try to auction that.
The bodies of the ancestors of the Peruvians who looted the tombs were of no value to them, so the bones are destroyed or left where they were. The artifacts were sold to people who valued them in every way more than the Peruvians. They belong to them now.
I think that guys estimate is wrong.
Grave robbers?
Peruvian grave robbers, yes.
So no Peruvian puff pepper
Just make sure Greg Brady didn't wear one around his neck when establishing provenance.
I am Peruvian adn I resent people that keep these Peruvian treasures. It belongs in a Peruvian museum...
Yeah well I sold my stereo back in 1996. I didn’t realize how valuable it was until now. I want it back.
@@trumpanzeeslayer4036 your stereo wasn’t part of your cultural identity and certainly part of a burial ceremony of your ancestors.
@@pgarciaAP You don’t know that.
It only belongs in a museum if the owner wants to sell it to or place it in one.
DC Mc you only have that viewpoint if you don’t mind the destruction of history.
putting stolen items in museums they dont belong is "destruction of history" So you're actually just a twat, again.
It would be worth wayyyyyyyyyyy more today!
Return these to Peru...donate to a National museum! Then their people can show their pride to all!
Peru are more than welcome to pay for their return. They would not have been found and possibly would have been destroyed if her father did not discover them and preserve them for half a century.
Peruvians looted it and sold it, its not theirs anymore. They can buy it back. Did they "show their pride" when they desecrated the tombs of their own ancestors for a little profit? Give me a break!
Yeah it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if this lady had these taken off her. Robbed from a grave, get them back to Peru
Peruvians looted it and sold it, its not theirs anymore. They can buy it back.
Hmmm. I’m not overly sure about these selling successfully in the international art market even though they were smuggled out in the 60’s by the family.
It belongs back in Peru, and in a museum.
Peruvians looted it and sold it, its not theirs anymore. They can buy it back.
They keep lowballing this stuff. Talk to museums, if authenticated, the honoraria will be way above the Antiques Roadshow estimates. It doesn't matter if you say it with conviction, that doesn't mean it's necessarily so.
“Pick it up and sniff it and lick it” this dude has a fetish.. 😂
Who would have guessed that the most racist comments you would see would be on an Antique Road Show video.
Dealers are the worst, most immoral people I have ever met.
Yeah, like blaming the "white man" for Peruvians looting their own history and selling it for peanuts to foreigners who appreciated it far more and then placing no blame whatsoever on the looters? I couldn't agree that that form of racism is very prevalent in these comments and I do find it disgusting.
Send it back to Peru! No business owning that
A lot of comments about it being "stolen". We have no evidence of that. It could have been purchased from a native or excavated with native permission. Also, why is it better for the local peruvians to have it? It isn't theirs either, it belongs to the dead. Would you go dig up the grave of your neighbor and tell yourself it belongs to you because you live in the same country? Shame on you all for being so corrupt with hate.
Shame on you for being so ignorant of other culture's historical identity. It resides in the USA, and in a real sense was stolen from the ground it came from thousands of miles out of it's historical context. Corrupt with ignorance is no excuse for your own blind hate of a culture you wont acknowledge has a right to it's past history.
Return it to Peru, it belongs there.
Maritza Noa-Cabrera No it doesn't!
No one cares
It's should be in a museum in Columbia.
Everyone who says they should be in a museum ,why dont you purchase them then do that
slothman weightloss I don’t have extra thousands of dollars laying around to buy back stolen artifacts. That’s why.
@@cabbage4254 with that logic everything old or antique should be returned to there place of origin
slothman weightloss If they were stolen, yes.
You must be the owner !!! When you take something that DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU ... you become a thief!!!.... these archaeological findings were NOT FOR SALE, in this case her father pocketed like souvenirs, all should be returned to Peru.
@@luckyme4795 so how do you determine something is stolen, does every antique have to have complete provenance etc
Too bad. These will end up in a museum where they should be.
Funk You Nope! He will sniff it and lick it. 😂
This makes me sick to know it was stolen from a grave in peru.
By Peruvians.
it should be returned, being so old they were stolen from a tomb
Peruvians looted it and sold it, its not theirs anymore. They can buy it back.
Peru is free to purchase them on the international market if they wish. People must grasp the complexity of history.
Just confirming the date they were stolen. I would be very surprised to learn that daddy declared these to the Peruvian authorities on his way home.
this thing were not sold . not a gift . same goes to egypt artefacts in louvre and london museum
They absolutely were sold. They were grave robbed by Peruvians themselves and sold for virtually nothing to people who appreciated Peruvian history more than the Peruvians themselves. And now its gone and rightfully belongs to someone else.
Amazing artifacts far from their original home and owner.
These things belongs to the people of peru!!! His estimate was way of!! They're worth much more!!
I agree wholeheartedly. I couldn't own this without feeling some type of culpability/guilt. It should be where it truly & rightfully belongs... amongst Peru and it's countrymen, women and children.
Sound on this video is bad.
İt is sad to see these items in hands of thieves
Those seem stolen...
This woman knew her collection was worth something. Would have been funny if she was told that her collection was actually a LEGO set lol
So they were looted before it was illegal, give them back.
It was still illegal, it just wasn't enforceable.
naw they should melt it down and make the world's biggest cock ring doh. Fo real.
Give it back to Peru!
Find it sad it’s sitting there, should be close to it’s origins
It would be if Peruvians wouldn't have looted their own ancestors and sold their valuables to foreigners who valued it much more. Buy it back.
Seriously $100k only? for gold and more than 2500 years of artefacts and history??
And one silly paintings of a dead flower is sold for more than a million $ for a silly painter 👨🎨!!
Go figure... 🤨
is it just me or does the guy sound like ron swanson
Before Christ! Wow! 2:44 And that thing is absolutely beautiful.
This is probably just the stuff her father kept, he sold of all the other treasure he looted from the tombs.
Probably a million
That's how withe people stolen country treasures from it those things are not for sale is culture history
Yep, "we" "stole" it by buying it from local people of the surviving culture related to the artifacts so destroyed and looted their own ancestral graves to sell these artifacts that were of little monetary value to those local people and of significantly more value to absolute strangers. Yep, you've definitely got it all figured out.
That's a conservative estimate for sure!