I won't defend Mykaya's comments but strongly disagree with censoring someone who maybe made some stupid comments. I hope the situation teaches her a lesson.
@@Appaddict01 Simone was responding to someone dissing her teammates. And she was super restrained in her response. Skinner is the one that put the foot in her mouth and isn't the first time, it's the many-th time.
@@ccaruso0404 Her previous half dozen entitled, racist, misogynistic diatribes in recent yrs have taught her nothing. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.
As a former gymnast and current coach, the one reason I wanted to coach was to make sure no child goes through what I went through. Yes coaching includes pushing your athletes to be the best they can be but it also more importantly includes support and FUN. Sports are supposed to be FUN!!!
In a sport that is judged, I really don't understand why children must be abused into performing. Sports should be fun. They will naturally develop what they need to improve in an environment where they get to see the benefits/rewards and apply accordingly.
She's still salty about not getting chosen for the 2016 Rio team. She was never going to get chosen. Her form was always messy and she could never hit a full split. She comes across as jealous, spoilt and self centered. She really talks like she was more successful than the other gymnasts 🤦♀️🤦♀️ girl needs a wake up call!
@@Fliptwisttt245 You’re absolutely right! I don’t think she thought what she said was wrong. Heck she was laughing while she said most of the time she was commenting on the trials. I really can’t believe she said I should come back and compete again after the fact that she didn’t make many of the world’s teams and if she did they used her as an alternate! Much less making the Olympics!
The most jarring part of her original video was that, in response to three frontrunners being out of Trials due to injury, she deadass said "I wish I would have come back...I feel like I would have been able to make the team" Just a complete lack of empathy and sensitivity towards the circumstance in question. Absolutely vile.
@@FourPawsandaBook Which does NOT teach you how to talk and what to say. Jeez it’s a university degree, not an elementary school diploma. People hear “communication” and think you learn how to communicate, lol, no you learn to communicate by your parents and your social groups like school, family, neighbors, friends etc.
@@leykimayri wow there is no reason to get so aggressive. A journalism degree would give you a lot of media training. Which if you read my original comment is what I said. I never equated it with communication. You did.
@@FourPawsandaBook Name me the courses in her degree which give a media training. Also the link to the description of the courses in the Utah university website to see exactly what those courses teach and how they give you “media training”.
Skinner should never have been placed on ANY Olympic team. She never learned to be a team player. And she never came to the gymnastics arena with tolerance. It's impossible to misinterpret her: she's BLATANT.
I don’t think she does it,to be mean. She’s one of those people who puts Foot in Mouth frequently. I think she’s saying things are EASIER than when Marta was around. Last 2 cycles they’ve taken gymnasts in order. They Didn’t do that with Marta and thus MyKala got left off the team even though she came in 4th in 2016
As my Mother used to say “think before you speak, and then before you say it, think about it again. Because once something is spoken you can’t ever take it back.” Unfortunately, with just a few poorly chosen words she probably cost herself ANY chance of being a gymnastics network commentator or doing anything with/for USA Gymnastics. She literally endorsed the Karolyi’s abusive training techniques and said they produced better athletes than the ones now being implemented by USA Gymnastics and SafeSport. I honestly don’t think there is any way she can come back from this.
I think she is just talking from jealousy. "We used to be better" ... girl no. There are amazing gymnasts nowadays, the abuse was not necessary. I hope they win gold just to shut her mouth!
I watched Makayla’s RUclips channel when she committed to her “comeback” for the Tokyo Olympics. At the time, she said that if Marta was still in charge she wouldn’t have come back to Elite. In her words “just the thought of camp gave her really bad anxiety” and she was relieved and ecstatic when she returned to her first camp and the culture was different. So I don’t understand how now she thinks the Marta era was better. To me she comes off as very privileged and unaware. For example, when she didn’t make the Rio team and reposted a tweet with her face over Gabby’s (even though Madison Kocian was the lowest scoring all-arounder selected. Her not remembering Suni, flippantly mispronouncing Hezley’s name…it all comes off as racial micro-aggressive and at her big age and experience, she should know better. She may not know better. But if she doesn’t, at this point, it’s because she doesn’t want to know better. And in her economically privileged, majority white Mormon world in Utah, she can continue to navigate thru life without learning why her thought processes and comments are super offensive. Her half-apologies and instantly turning into victim mode is so tiring and she is giving Karen vibes. Seriously. If she does not make the effort to learn and change I am sure we will see her continue with this same pattern and she will eventually be a full blown Karen!! In a few years we will be having this same conversation about her but it will probably a comment or behavior that will be even worse and we will all be shocked and saying I cannot believe she said that! At some point, we will have to believe her when she shows us who she really is. I have been a fan of hers because I felt like she was an underdog, but I really don’t think I am a fan anymore…..
I’m from Utah and I promise that McKayla’s offensive comments, lack of awareness and empathy, aren’t acceptable in any way here. Nor does she represent Mormons, because the unkind, insensitive, and prideful comments are the exact opposite of Christ-like, and Jesus Christ is who Mormons worship (the name is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints). So please don’t lump all Utahns in as ignorant just because a few are. Thank you!
@@lionmom3520 Let’s NOT have any future conversations about this incredibly immature, entitled, racist individual. She’s emulating Peter Pan: She won’t grow up. That’s certainly her choice, out sitting in the Utah desert. I suggest we all leave her there and move on to those who actually benefit whatever from their viewpoint. Skinner benefits no one at this time, not even herself.
@@SpartanAngel06 sure it is. It's a derogatory term exclusively directed at middle-aged white women. It would be like calling every black woman who engaged in some kind of stereotypical behavior a "Lakeisha"
I don't think that anyone is shocked at her making these comments, she has always been the one with the mean girl vibes. She has ruined any chance she ever had of being involved in gymnastics in any way, be it as a commentator, contributors etc.
@Jac-Jay So true! What media outlet in the world would want someone who bashes the ladies in the sport commentating on important competitions in which those she verbally bashes are competing? She's like kryptonite to any media outlet that would have even previously considered employing her as a serious gymnastics commentator (such as ESPN, NBC, etc.) I believe that counts for any possible judging in the future in which she could have been involved. I would never let her be a judge because she's not fair & impartial. She, through her own words, demonstrates that she comes to the table with the assumption that other athletes (other than her) don't work as hard. I think that she would not be able to judge without prejudice.
I watched the original video, the video was about Olympic trials and the girls. The fact that she is lying saying she didn’t talk about their work ethic is annoying, just admit that’s how you feel. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I’d respect that more than her back tracking and lying. To say any Olympic trials athlete is lazy is something else. 😅
Even though I was trying to give the same benefit of the doubt as Braie, I also surmised that since her video was all about Olympic trials, the only context of bringing up work ethic was in relation to athletes at Olympic trials. i figured it was related to the falls since she had mentioned a gymnast with two falls would never have made a past team. Thanks for clarifying from perspective of having seen all the video.
I think she drank the Kool-aid a little too well. It is true that training and gymnastics has changed since the Karolyi era - but as they should. There is no space in the sport for bullying, abuse, and fear-based training. I trained during the 80s in Europe and so I know first hand what that training looked like. My daughter is now a gymnast and there have been times when I've caught myself thinking how "soft" the training is now... but, then I remember that I am the product of a generation and a system that was inherently broken. MyKayla needs to stop talking and listen and reflect. I don't think she's taken the time to truly ingest and digest what happened to her teammates at the hands of the Karolyis and Nassar - if she had, she would not come out with comments such as these. Maybe her experience was not the same as her fellow gymnasts. Maybe she thrived on a stricter environment and maybe she has locked all that crap away. It's true that often times those who have suffered go on to cause suffering themselves because they spend so much time convincing themselves that what happened *couldn't* be wrong, so then end up inflicting the same damage. I also wonder how much her privileged, insulated, homogeneous, White, Mormon upbringing in Utah has affected her outlook on life. Mormonism is not known for its inclusivity and diversity....
I agree, and wonder if that's how Kim Zmeskal is also. I've heard some mean-girl type things about her and now as a coach, and rumors flew that she trained like Marta and Bela because that's what she knew, so she did the same. She scares me, to be honest lol. The mean girl vibes just radiate off of her, and when I saw Skinner, she's the only other person who made me feel like that as immediate as it did. It doesn't mean anything because it's just my opinion, but it was something that I took in and as the years passed, it's been showing more and more. It just goes to show that sometimes your first impressions and gut feelings are correct 😅
"Read a book on media training or self-betterment"... I watched some of her vlogs in preparation for the last Olympics and in one of them she seemed quite proud of herself stating to have come this far without ever finishing a single book in her life. She really said it like that.I think she added "not even in school" but for that I would not hold my hand into the fire. The part before I clearly remember since I love reading books and was very shocked...
She is proud of not reading and has said she does not like drinking water, so she doesn't. Her brain is empty, but her kidneys are definitely screaming at this point lol.
The work ethics comments were 100% directed to the olympic team. I saw the video before she deleted it. She made a comment on how there were all these falls during the olympic trials and she said this is all due to poor work ethic & how these athletes shouldn't be putting in "college hours".
It is not because of poor work ethic according to Skinner, it's because the rule has changed. Her era of doing skill-pause-skill, skill-adjust-skill, uncreditable leaps and jumps are heavily penalized under Donatella's FIG. Skinner without a fall will score less than others' 1.5 beam fall. I could care less about beam fall on spieth beam used at trials. They should train on gymnova beam like yesterday.
@@appalachianunicornakaerin8596If she wants to make a comeback and get on her first gymnastics team, she's welcome to try. Show us how it's done, scooter. (autocorrect changed Skinner to scooter and you know what, I don't mind it, lol). Show us how far the 'proper work ethic' gets you.
Thanks, Braie. I've seen both Day 1 and Day 2 of MyKayla's live shows. I firmly believe she needs some media training because she didn't think before she spoke. She was having fun, but it was very sad to watch her simply being rude to people who (she failed to mention) beat her in 2021...
If a degree in Broadcast Journalism hasn't provided MyKayla with sufficient skills to convey her ideas appropriately to respectfully contribute to public discourse, well she's gonna need a whole lot more than media training to turn this around.
@@blissbombard My education is in broadcast journalism... and my prof said, you need notes, and scripts til you have done life broadcasts for 7 years. Myk was so utterly unprepared for the live show, didn't know the names of the athletes and didn't listen when Sam etc. said them. She was busy, chasing her toddler etc. If she is going to do it, she needs to focus on the program. She also needs to learn to not say things like, "Hmmm, she did a 1½... why would anyone vault with a 1½, I mean really??" Just unnecessary and rude.
Skinner's comments were unnecessary but were also bad on their timing. She basically said everyone except Simone was trash before their biggest competition. The ultimate mind scramble. Why would you do that when you know they need to be focused? It wasn't a good look so I was proud that Simone stood up for her Team. Then to apologize saying you weren't talking about the current team when you were is just untruthful. You are “apologizing” because people weren't on your side. Craziness. I just wanna see these Olympians support one another because they know what the next group will go thru so its sad that she didn't try to build them up with statements like that.
One of the reasons I have gravitated to your videos so much is your ongoing strides and attitude regarding child safety. As a victim of childhood SA, I feel what you say and do to encourage child protection is absolutely amazing! My only role in the gymnastics world is being a spectator, so I think something as simple as these athletes doing a forward roll is the most amazing skill ever. Gymnasts are the most athletic beasts on the planet in my humble opinion.
This was a great watch btw, you are so well spoken. I remember watching you compete for the University of Arkansas and it was so cool / nice to hear from you again. Would love for you to post some videos during the Olympics! You clearly know your stuff and would be fun for you to commentate on the happenings of gymnastics at the Paris ‘24 Olympics!
First off, great breakdown and staying productive about what the conversation should be about is a breath of fresh air! That being said, I listened to the video before she took it down and something I have found interesting is that everyone is stuck on the comments about work ethic. Which is silly because you don’t get to be an athlete of that level without a good work ethic, so that’s just nonsensical. The part she said that shocked me was about how she should have made a comeback because she probably would have made this team…which she only was able to say after 3 major injuries occurred from 3 top contenders…so unfortunately it’s even worse than her just saying folks don’t have a work ethic because the video was actually a pat on her own back to say she would be better suited for the team than the current girls. An unfortunate display of insecurity and envy and to play off of Simone’s response, someone who loves her should take her microphone away until she is able to say nice things about other people without complimenting herself in the process. Motherload of irony is she got a degree in communications (I would request a refund on that) and during her watch party she said she should go for a commentator gig 😂 she missed the day about the importance of communication not being what you say, but how it’s interpreted and makes people feel! Sorry for the ramble 😋 PS posted this before I got to the end and we agree on someone else checking her work 😂 although her immediate circle will be an echo chamber so maybe it should be a non emotional third party 🤣
She was talking about the gymnast at the Olympic Trials! When it came to work ethic. I watched the original video. I have been a Mikayla Skinner fan for years, and I cannot believe the words that were coming out of her mouth.
She said “I wasn’t ALWAYS NECESSARILY talking about the Olympic team.” So, that means she sometimes might be talking about them, right? She did not apologize for anything she said, didn’t acknowledge any mistakes, only victimized herself and blamed people for misunderstanding her.
I adore your ability to empathize and acknowledge that she likely has trauma (or at the very least a really hard time) while also definitely not letting her off the hook. Also, to imply that Suni’s work ethic is poor when she’s literally in remission from chronic kidney disease? That Jordan lacked it when she had to perform at the olympics right before her mom went to jail? Hezly also being in literal high school?!? If Mykayla wants to see poor work ethic, she should see me right now at work not working but commenting on a youtube video 😂 But it is so exciting to see the gymnasts now older and still incredible, and all of those positive changes you noted. I could see Mykayla trying to believe that she had to go through all of that to get to where she got, but that’s a really scary mentality, especially as a mom. Nobody needs to be tortured (mentally or physically), especially for gymnastics! And it’s messed up that it was so normalized and went on for so long.
Skinner is a mean girl and that is her personality. I think you are being diplomatic and giving her the benefit of doubt so you are walking the walk. Skinner needs to own her words and be woman enough to work on her cattiness.
I saw the original video the day after she put it on RUclips. In addition to her comments about work ethics, she kept saying that she wishes she was on the team to “Help out “. I’ve watched many former gymnasts review competitions and they didn’t say that. Is she regretting her retirement or envious? IDK 🤷🏾♀️
What she regrets is that she didn't live the experience. Firstly she was not a part of team USA because it was a 4 gymnasts team, while now it is 5. If the rules were the same, she would have been a part of team US in 2021 too, instead of being a "specialist". And secondly with all that COVID, she missed the enjoyment of the Olympic village and all the fun there, something that she also missed in 2016 since she was an alternative and was sent home before the Olympics started.
@@leykimayri If the rules had been the same in 2021, I think Jade would have been on the team and MyKayla would have been a reserve. So she should think herself incredibly lucky she got the experience she did. Not resentful and unduly arrogant, as she comes across.
@@weesarah86 Exactly! She was the sixth body on that team and had the 2020/2021 code not had those different rules allowing for countries to have two specialists in addition to the four team gymnasts, she wouldn’t be an Olympian at all, let alone an Olympic silver medalist. Let’s not forget she actually got incredibly lucky twice, with Simone having to withdraw from the event finals. She got lucky the first time in being at the games at all, and the second time with getting to compete in an event final to win a medal. Lightning literally struck twice for her.
I would be careful about using the word bullying in this context. She was a bully by saying the things she said, especially given her platform and the weight she carries. However proportional responses to her are not bullying. Holding her accountable is not harassing. Holding the mirror up to her face is appropriate. Asking her to reflect and pointing out her problematic statements are appropriate. Choosing to unfollow her and setting personal boundaries are appropriate. Trying to force her into our views by threats , is disproportionate. However, this is not bullying. Responding to a bully is not bullying.
I agree, but I still have to give the disclaimer that by no means is my response encouraging anyone to cross any lines and bully her. There’s a difference between responding with constructive criticism and then crossing a line. That’s all I was trying to disclaim and get across.
I feel sorry for this MyKayla girl... she's not particularly sharp, her marriage to that dude is weird and somewhat toxic (at least it seems from the outside). I can imagine that she sat there with the baby watching all the undoubtedly hard-working elite athletes either get injured (many of the top contenders) or get selected even with falls she must have felt like she could have done it better if... well, too many ifs, that ship had sailed a while ago. She might as well have cheered her "friends" on now that she's out of the game due to her life choices.
Such a well done response! The first 10 of so minutes are the thoughts that have swirled in my head about MyKayla. She has always come across as not having much depth behind anything she says. Maybe her intelligence is fine but she is completely unaware. Someone in her life should have sat her down by now and explained though. Unfortunately I have hurt people's feelings with comments that I didn't think much of because I critique myself just as hard as I critique other people (counselor told me that was something to watch out for). Sometimes my comments aren't a problem because of harshness, but because they are self-centered. I have always been socially awkward so finding ways to take part in conversations has frequently resulted in me inserting myself into discussions that don't need me. When friends pointed it out, i was utterly embarrassed. I explained to them why, and they gave me advice how better to be present in social situations without making it about me. Anyway, I don't know whether MyKayla finished her degree, but she was studying broadcast journalism. You would think that would involve maybe not media training per se, but the issues involved in carrying yourself on camera? I have always had the feeling she wanted a commentator career in retirement, and is desperately grasping for it by setting up her youtube channel. I don't know if she has tarnished any reputation she has beyond repair, but she needs ALOT of help to try to fix things and probably should stay quiet and focus on her family for the next phase of her life. Sorry this was so long, but you are the first response that resonated so much with my same thoughts. I also appreciate your perspective from the elite gymnastics world and how you are clear than intense training is not the same thing as aggressive or abusive training. No gymnast is going to make it to Olympic trials without having been intense in her training.
It takes a lot of emotional intelligence to acknowledge your mistakes and to appreciate your friends for pointing it out, instead of becoming defensive. Good for you and thanks for the insightful comment.
She may as well be named McWailer because all she's been doing since she was named alternate in 16 has been whine and complain about not being chosen by the Karolys, and now her green gymnastics Grinch is showing that jealousy. And then to not be picked again and again, shew. Green green green. She used to complain and be so scared of the camps, and now that everyone is going into gymnastics by not bullying and being supportive (like teams in the NCAA, so she should be used to that?) she says the old way is better? Say what? Even her difficulty isnt as high as more than half the team, so what even is her issue lol. Being jealous is a nasty thing, but saying things out loud is even more dirty because theres always a record somewhere. Theres a reason she wasnt picked, not just by the Karolys. But the new teams too. Maybe think on that a bit, hm Skinner? Just because you say you want it, doesnt mean you'll get it. We all know that. Working hard and giving it everything is good obviously, but you aren't the only one who didn't make it? Being a sore loser is not good for broadcasting either lol. I did pointe ballet for years, and blew my knee out twice and had to work extra hard in half the amount of time to get back on the floor with a torn meniscus in two different places, two different times, and yeah I was upset when I didnt get a part I wanted. But I also knew when the other girl was picked that she deserved it more because she was going crazy hard and had massive skill and wasnt hindered by an injury. Sometimes, we dont get what we want and theres a lesson in everything. Especially losing. How she's handling it however, is showing the maturity she needs. That glamour show they did on youtube about gymnastics and her trying to get back on the team for 2020, she gave a sob story about being alternate and how she wanted to be there for her team and rooted and cheered for them and felt like she was what held the group together, I thought it was sweet that she brought some of that NCAA attitude about teams to elite. But I could tell she felt like she was backhanded by USAG and didnt deserve to be an alternate. Its an ego burster, for sure.
I used to like Mykayla… until she opened her mouth. She might have the difficulty, but she herself wasn’t consistent. She had a very promising career, but her mouth got the best of her.
Mykayla Skinner is a low-level gymnast. Her terrible techniques are the reasons she never made the actual team. Her coaches were aggravated with her because she could not correct or improve her mistakes. She gives me she is very MAGA.
You should do a get ready with me makeup tutorial for your look! It’s gorgeous! I really want to know what products you use to achieve the look! Especially the highlight in inner corner of eyes !
Hello Braie, Thanks a lot for the quality and time you took to talk about this topic, As the saying goes ''turn your tongue 7 times'', I also think that her post statement is really insincere and totally fake which make her case worse. The 5 girls that qualified worked really hard to qualify for Paris, she really had poor judgement and it felt like that she was a little bit jealous like ''I had to work harder to qualify at the time???'', and also maybe she did not digest the fact the she was not selected for the team in Tokyo and only as individual event gymnast, Mentioning the "Martha'' era is also disgusting knowing all that happened during camps and the ecosystem around her... Wiamz
I am sorry. She is clearly saying that an abusive disciplinary environment is better than a healthy, mental health focused and safety conscious training environment. In light of everything that has happened this is just so disgusting. She clearly was not happy with her own career and is acting like her achievement was greater because the era was more difficult. Sorry, the level of competition is now higher than ever. She is just not a nice person and needs to go away because this is not a good source of commentary for anyone. it achieves nothing in terms of informing or critiquing. An absolute embarrassment to the women who have competed and continue to. Shameful. She needs to learn how to behave with decency and class like Nastia. Nastia is obviously secure in her own career achievements and never has anything bad to say about anyone.
I love getting your take. I picked up a slight irony when you said the gymnasts felt fear at Marta's camp. The name of Bela's book was Feel No Fear. Coincidence?
Everyone keeps saying the video is deleted but isn't it the video under the "Live" tab? She was watching the trials live so the videos get saved in a different section. Am I wrong? Is it not that video?
Well this is an amazing video, and you were SO respectful, which is something she definitely did not deserved from all the stupid content she has posted. She seems to me like a person who did not suffer certain abuses first hand and did suffer some abuse, but the memories have been buried. And so she remembers (or seems to remember) only the nice parts, and that everyone else is just exaggerating. "We won everything so it was worth it" is a fallacy and thank god for safesport!!! Also, from your final comments, "she needs someone to edit her videos", I think it's interesting that she has said many times that her husband is the one who does that. And with that fact right there, everyone can get their own conclusions, I guess :)
When Mykayla said “the talent isn’t what it use to be” she meant to say that the code of points is allowing for routines to have less difficult skills with higher value. During the Marta era it was expected that you had an Amanar and all these other very difficult skills. Nowadays, Suni’s beam dismount is allowed in elite gymnastics. Years ago that wasn’t even considered a level 9 dismount. She didn’t mean “these girls are not talented like they were during my day” she meant that their routines are watered down versions of their talent. We only see 2 girls now with amanars and 4 girls with chengs (correct me on that) just about everyone on the 2012 team had an amanar. I believe these girls are capable of more skills. Mykayla isn’t smart enough to articulate words to an audience in a professional fashion. Like you said, she’s known to have done things that piss people off. She’s entitled to her own opinion and I do think it’s ridiculous statement but at the same time I do think it’s ridiculous to get dog piled over an opinion that harmed no one.Mykayla isn’t valid in the gymnastics world that much. She’s a trouble maker with a loud mouth and a silver medal. No one cares or remembers her all that much except when she stirs controversy which she’s more notable for vs her own gymnastics.
I'm glad I stumbled across your channel last year. You stated everything I've been thanking wayyyy more eloquently. Makayla is just petty. I didn't like her back in 2016 and I don't like her now. She'll never change and I love how you can see through the BS and can still offer constructive criticism. If I ever get around to having kids and become brave enough to put them in gymnastics I would love for them to have a coach with your mindset. Amazing. Thank for the video.
The gymnasts look healthier and stronger now than the 80s.They look much better, and the team spirit is great. They all look like they all worked hard to compete.
I saw this original video. She was talking about the work ethic of gymnasts in general because coaches can’t push them anymore. What she said about the current team was that she could have make it with all the injuries that happened at trials and that they weren’t as many injuries during trials in the Marta’s era, meaning some gymnasts that are on the team wouldn’t have make it in the Marta’s era with what they did at trials. She said the work ethic during Marta’s era was better but she also said several times that they were a lot of bad that came from it but that maybe it’s too lax now. During all of it she said except Simone, Simone is incredible. It was bad because even insinuating that it was better when people were getting abused is unacceptable. Everything else was not that bad. I understand other gymnasts being mad at her but other people are making it into something bigger than it is. Mykayla is a super conservative, not super smart, right wing person. What she said wasn’t unexpected. Not great but it’s whatever. I’d already move on before it suddenly made the news.
Okay that stuff isn't even true. There were absolutely injuries during Marta's era, the gymnasts were just made it to work through them, sometimes being broken physically and/or mentally to the point of having to retire from elite. McKayla Maroney had a broken toe she had to lie about. Dominique Moceanu had a fractured tibia as I recall. Ohashi could have been treated properly and still be competing. Second of all we know the code for coaches 'pushing gymnasts.' It requires toxic training methods. They called them lazy even when they were busting their butts back in Marta's day. It's a dogwhistle by Skinner to act like gymnasts are lazier now when the same accusations were hurled before, the difference was more of the gymnasts were wyt.
PS I think we all know she make sure to make Simone an exception partly because nobody would believe Simone's lazy and partly because she's (MyKayla's) an opportunist. There's always been a vibe of clout chasing every time she brings up Simone.
@@KaiOpaka I was an elite gymnast many years ago and the level of abuse (verbal, physical, sexual, emotional) was so much worse than anyone can imagine. And we are talking about children (life long damage for many). In the words of Olga Korbut in Defying Gravity: The Untold Story of Women's Gymnastics Ep 5: 'It never goes way. Even 50 years later'
@@white_peony23 "The Untold Story of Women's Gymnastics Ep 5: 'It never goes way. Even 50 years later'" Because there are students who are likely to coach from what they've learned...that's why Safesport needs to exist in order to maintain safety, weed out the patches of old guard.
@@creating1_c1999 Agreed regarding Safesport, & hopefully other countries will do/are doing the same. Olga Korbut's quote relates to how the effects of the abuse never really leaves you, never goes away, even after 50 years. She describes her coach as a monster. As someone who trained in the Soviet Union, I saw first hand how bad it was
Tbh i ppl were egging her on in the comments.... I dead ass told her to stop giving more details when some commenters were clearly setting her up. The lack of work ethic was referring to the fact that 4 of the 5 spots have been "locked" for a while. During Rio i think 3 or 4 spots were up for grabs. Simone and aly were the only true locked spots . Thats what she was trying to say . Her lazy husband wasnt helping. He kept tossing their kid at her to take care of her. MCK kept aski him to wat h her she was having trouble keeping up with everything
They know her tipping zone due her past actions. She's a Mormon. She should be more stealth and have more self-control. The devil is always playing fast and loose. Simone considered her a friend. Simone considers her teammates to be friends. They've each worked with her on a team, or at her gym, including Hezly. Friends forgive, but the internet doesn't forget.
Great analysis of all the parts of this situation! You are very well-informed and fair. You're the only person I've seen so far to mention that Mykayla just isn't the brightest bulb in general, in addition to her poor sportsmanship and microaggressions. Simone ate with that post, to the extent that people who don't even follow gymnastics are giving her flowers for putting a sharp periodT on that whole narrative.
I think this conversation is so important and not for the reasons people automatically think. It’s insane to me how much SA happens in elite gymnastics that’s perpetuated by governing powers. It’s all connected and it’s sickening.
OMG momma!!! "Low IQ vibes" had me rolling on the floor! Shots fired (kinda, I get you and it wasn't intended with malice, you gave your opinion honestly and objectively)
I did watch an interview with her from back in October when she mentioned that she had learning disabilities and I don't know if she said dyslexia, so schooling was hard for her. I have always been bugged by the way she talks that it's like she's asking a question with every statement she says. That may be just the inflection of how she talks but it always comes across to me as she's not what she's saying. In that same interview though she shared the negatives about the old camp they had and how much they hated/feared going. She also brought up the lower work ethic that the gymnasts now have in her gym but also at camp since the change in leadership. In some ways it gave a different perspective but she still kept making statements that were oblivious and sometimes wrong. She mentioned that bar routines in the elite world have 15 skills in them to show how much harder they are than college routines. I know that college routines don't have nearly as many skills as elite routines but I don't think elite routines have 15. She was also adamant that every time she didn't make a team it was political.
you got a subscribe from me for starting your video that you're not trying to encourage anyone to bully Mykayla Skinner. i don't think anyone deserves to be bullied, and excited to see the rest of your content
ACCOUNTABILITY is the word. There's a lot to unpack with her. In my professional opinion there are deficits. I look at her, then I look at Sam and Laurie. There's a difference. I believe that she's been given a lot of grace but very little chastening for error which has made her extremely resistant to correction. Love and light to her, but indeed accountability is how we grow. She's not the only person in media who does this. But if she wants to be successful, she needs coaching. Stop listening to the coven of witches and warlocks stroking her ego and telling her she did nothing wrong. There's so much talent in this quad. How can anyone form their lips to say the talent and work ethic isn't there when these gymnasts are pushing through injury. People who sign on to agree that the "era" was different, needs to follow up with how abusive it was and what it produced besides medals. We need to understand that these athletes are not robots. You don't need to berate youngsters to train them to perform at their best. Their careers in the sport is for a short while. All of that abusive language and action leaves them depleted of any value or worth when their career ends. I appreciate what SafeSport has brought to gymnastics. It's going to take time to make the changes in the culture to be second nature, but I like the direction it is positioned to be. --- Simone is the oldest female gymnast to compete since 1952.
She also said that she's could've made the team if she had trained for it with how sloppy the ladies who made the team were at trials. And she did make exception for Simone.
The hard work & dedication our national team gives to the sport is readily apparent to most. It's like she (verbally) spit in all of their faces, and that's disgusting.
« MyKayla gives me low IQ vibes » I laughed so hard I almost choked. It wasn’t your intention but it sounded so mean ( in a good way like how to say that she is dumb without actually saying it) oh my 😂😂😂
Braie give Skinner the same energy she gave. It's fair. There's really no excuse for her vile comments. I believe, she studied journalism and apparently she did poorly on that too. She's all about herself ... OMG there's a magazine featuring her because of her 1 silver Olympic medal. i suppose that gives her more energy for her delusional grandiose personality.
@@Ayybraiebraie I get it ... I'm just saying that if you did it's quite understandable. Like you said how many times are you going to give the person the benefit of the doubt. A lot of times if the person doesn't feel the same energy they give out ... they never know how they make other people feel.
She was talking about the Olympic team to me. I saw her live video. I thought she was talking about the Olympic trials and the Olympic team. I could have missed something, but I thought she was talking about the Olympic team. Anyways she is wrong for saying it no matter who she was talking about.
Probably if she were just an ordinary person, it would not matter. However, she should know that she is not only a former Olympian but also a former USA gymnast, and her statements might be picked up by people and media persons. There's a conflict of interest, so she should choose her words wisely. I would understand if she was on a radio or television show commenting on athletes or issues because she is paid to do that, but this is just her opinion on social media, which is more accessible to the youth nowadays.
I think she conflated work ethic with ability to hit under pressure. The team went over a decade without a fall in major international competitions. They have fallen in every major competition sometimes multiple times since the end of the Marta era. The Russian team outscored the team even in prelims with Simone in 2021. They’d be serious competition if they were allowed to compete in 2024. BTW...Marta was an abuser and deserved to be removed obviously.
Love your videos. So I want to say..... Maybe mckayla skinner needs training in talking to people in the media. You have to remember platforms reach all types of people so you might be offending people and you don't realize it.
100%. And I don’t think it’s necessary to tell people watch what you say in case you have fed someone because honestly, people find a fence and almost everything. But I think it’s still fair to ask people to communicate the best they can and in the most constructive and respectful way possible.
@@ArikaNrazzle You need to educate yourself about what "communication degree" means. Let me inform you that it does NOT mean you have courses on training how to talk to people in media.
Simone said it best "Not everyone needs a mic and a platform."
I won't defend Mykaya's comments but strongly disagree with censoring someone who maybe made some stupid comments. I hope the situation teaches her a lesson.
That she doesn't need mic or a platform.
Including, Simone.
@@Appaddict01 Simone was responding to someone dissing her teammates. And she was super restrained in her response. Skinner is the one that put the foot in her mouth and isn't the first time, it's the many-th time.
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Her previous half dozen entitled, racist, misogynistic diatribes in recent yrs have taught her nothing. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.
The entire national team unfollowed her
Love this! As they should cause she really insulted each and every one of them!
So Grace finally unfollowed her?
Leanne Wong and Shilese Jones haven’t unfollowed her but after what she said I wouldn’t blame them if they did because she deserves it
Americans are great at mobbing .
She’s not wrong, though. The depth isn’t the same. Jordan wouldn’t have gotten near the 2012 or 2016 teams.
As a former gymnast and current coach, the one reason I wanted to coach was to make sure no child goes through what I went through. Yes coaching includes pushing your athletes to be the best they can be but it also more importantly includes support and FUN. Sports are supposed to be FUN!!!
In a sport that is judged, I really don't understand why children must be abused into performing. Sports should be fun. They will naturally develop what they need to improve in an environment where they get to see the benefits/rewards and apply accordingly.
She's still salty about not getting chosen for the 2016 Rio team. She was never going to get chosen. Her form was always messy and she could never hit a full split. She comes across as jealous, spoilt and self centered. She really talks like she was more successful than the other gymnasts 🤦♀️🤦♀️ girl needs a wake up call!
She’s the first Angela carini 😆😆
She is always gaslighting "I'm sorry IF YOU MISINTERPRETED" 🤡, implying others are stupid. She has been given so many second chances.
Sadly I have to agree. I have defended her so many times and kept giving her grace, but I'm DONE NOW. She needs to work on herself
She meant everything she said. The only reason she backpedaled was because of the massive dog pile.
@@Fliptwisttt245 You’re absolutely right! I don’t think she thought what she said was wrong. Heck she was laughing while she said most of the time she was commenting on the trials. I really can’t believe she said I should come back and compete again after the fact that she didn’t make many of the world’s teams and if she did they used her as an alternate! Much less making the Olympics!
I think that's funny considering she is not the sharpest tool in the shed lol
The most jarring part of her original video was that, in response to three frontrunners being out of Trials due to injury, she deadass said "I wish I would have come back...I feel like I would have been able to make the team"
Just a complete lack of empathy and sensitivity towards the circumstance in question. Absolutely vile.
Totally. I stopped watching after that...I guess the low IQ is a given here
The fact that she has a LITERAL DEGREE in broadcast journalism. She had 4 years of media training and she’s still doing this…
Who told you that a degree in communication teaches you grammar and what to say and how?
@@leykimayri not communication, broadcast journalism. She went to school to be a sports commentator.
@@FourPawsandaBook Which does NOT teach you how to talk and what to say. Jeez it’s a university degree, not an elementary school diploma. People hear “communication” and think you learn how to communicate, lol, no you learn to communicate by your parents and your social groups like school, family, neighbors, friends etc.
@@leykimayri wow there is no reason to get so aggressive. A journalism degree would give you a lot of media training. Which if you read my original comment is what I said. I never equated it with communication. You did.
@@FourPawsandaBook Name me the courses in her degree which give a media training. Also the link to the description of the courses in the Utah university website to see exactly what those courses teach and how they give you “media training”.
Skinner should never have been placed on ANY Olympic team. She never learned to be a team player. And she never came to the gymnastics arena with tolerance. It's impossible to misinterpret her: she's BLATANT.
I don’t disagree.
She Wasn’t on Any Team! She was a “specialist “
I don’t think she does it,to be mean. She’s one of those people who puts Foot in Mouth frequently. I think she’s saying things are EASIER than when Marta was around. Last 2 cycles they’ve taken gymnasts in order. They Didn’t do that with Marta and thus MyKala got left off the team even though she came in 4th in 2016
Absolutely has to do with changing of the guard and it’s a Happier Time in gymnastics. Predators are GONE
@@AyybraiebraieShe never Made a team! In 2021 she was the extra, got the specialist spot 😅
As my Mother used to say “think before you speak, and then before you say it, think about it again. Because once something is spoken you can’t ever take it back.” Unfortunately, with just a few poorly chosen words she probably cost herself ANY chance of being a gymnastics network commentator or doing anything with/for USA Gymnastics. She literally endorsed the Karolyi’s abusive training techniques and said they produced better athletes than the ones now being implemented by USA Gymnastics and SafeSport. I honestly don’t think there is any way she can come back from this.
That would not necessarily be a bad outcome.
I think she is just talking from jealousy. "We used to be better" ... girl no. There are amazing gymnasts nowadays, the abuse was not necessary. I hope they win gold just to shut her mouth!
Yes my mom said this too!!
@@barbarabc24and they did 😂🎉
@@devonagutierrez2393 yay! I'm so so happy for them, truly deserved!!! congrats from spain :)
I watched Makayla’s RUclips channel when she committed to her “comeback” for the Tokyo Olympics. At the time, she said that if Marta was still in charge she wouldn’t have come back to Elite. In her words “just the thought of camp gave her really bad anxiety” and she was relieved and ecstatic when she returned to her first camp and the culture was different. So I don’t understand how now she thinks the Marta era was better. To me she comes off as very privileged and unaware. For example, when she didn’t make the Rio team and reposted a tweet with her face over Gabby’s (even though Madison Kocian was the lowest scoring all-arounder selected. Her not remembering Suni, flippantly mispronouncing Hezley’s name…it all comes off as racial micro-aggressive and at her big age and experience, she should know better. She may not know better. But if she doesn’t, at this point, it’s because she doesn’t want to know better. And in her economically privileged, majority white Mormon world in Utah, she can continue to navigate thru life without learning why her thought processes and comments are super offensive. Her half-apologies and instantly turning into victim mode is so tiring and she is giving Karen vibes. Seriously. If she does not make the effort to learn and change I am sure we will see her continue with this same pattern and she will eventually be a full blown Karen!! In a few years we will be having this same conversation about her but it will probably a comment or behavior that will be even worse and we will all be shocked and saying I cannot believe she said that! At some point, we will have to believe her when she shows us who she really is. I have been a fan of hers because I felt like she was an underdog, but I really don’t think I am a fan anymore…..
I’m from Utah and I promise that McKayla’s offensive comments, lack of awareness and empathy, aren’t acceptable in any way here. Nor does she represent Mormons, because the unkind, insensitive, and prideful comments are the exact opposite of Christ-like, and Jesus Christ is who Mormons worship (the name is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints). So please don’t lump all Utahns in as ignorant just because a few are. Thank you!
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Let’s NOT have any future conversations about this incredibly immature, entitled, racist individual. She’s emulating Peter Pan: She won’t grow up. That’s certainly her choice, out sitting in the Utah desert. I suggest we all leave her there and move on to those who actually benefit whatever from their viewpoint. Skinner benefits no one at this time, not even herself.
Imagine writing a whole diatribe about "racist microaggressions" while repeatedly using the term "Karen" without a hint of irony. Lol.
@@a9029klol "Karen" isn't a racist term
@@SpartanAngel06 sure it is. It's a derogatory term exclusively directed at middle-aged white women. It would be like calling every black woman who engaged in some kind of stereotypical behavior a "Lakeisha"
She WAS talking about the Olympic team because she said everyone EXCEPT Simone didn't have a good work ethic.
She knows Simone will knock her down a notch..FACT.
and still they are all better than she used to be, so thats hilarious
@@barbarabc24 right lol. Absolutely kills me how entitled and jealous she is 😂 and everyone can see it
Her husband must be embarrassed right now.
@@23gymbuffImagine if Simone was a boxer 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don't think that anyone is shocked at her making these comments, she has always been the one with the mean girl vibes. She has ruined any chance she ever had of being involved in gymnastics in any way, be it as a commentator, contributors etc.
Not shocked at all.
@Jac-Jay So true! What media outlet in the world would want someone who bashes the ladies in the sport commentating on important competitions in which those she verbally bashes are competing? She's like kryptonite to any media outlet that would have even previously considered employing her as a serious gymnastics commentator (such as ESPN, NBC, etc.) I believe that counts for any possible judging in the future in which she could have been involved. I would never let her be a judge because she's not fair & impartial. She, through her own words, demonstrates that she comes to the table with the assumption that other athletes (other than her) don't work as hard. I think that she would not be able to judge without prejudice.
I watched the original video, the video was about Olympic trials and the girls. The fact that she is lying saying she didn’t talk about their work ethic is annoying, just admit that’s how you feel. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I’d respect that more than her back tracking and lying. To say any Olympic trials athlete is lazy is something else. 😅
Facts
Even though I was trying to give the same benefit of the doubt as Braie, I also surmised that since her video was all about Olympic trials, the only context of bringing up work ethic was in relation to athletes at Olympic trials. i figured it was related to the falls since she had mentioned a gymnast with two falls would never have made a past team. Thanks for clarifying from perspective of having seen all the video.
I agree with your point precisely.
Makayla herself is lazy, she just lives off her sponsorship deals and stupid spiteful videos of her own and her bum of a husband
I think she drank the Kool-aid a little too well. It is true that training and gymnastics has changed since the Karolyi era - but as they should. There is no space in the sport for bullying, abuse, and fear-based training. I trained during the 80s in Europe and so I know first hand what that training looked like. My daughter is now a gymnast and there have been times when I've caught myself thinking how "soft" the training is now... but, then I remember that I am the product of a generation and a system that was inherently broken. MyKayla needs to stop talking and listen and reflect. I don't think she's taken the time to truly ingest and digest what happened to her teammates at the hands of the Karolyis and Nassar - if she had, she would not come out with comments such as these. Maybe her experience was not the same as her fellow gymnasts. Maybe she thrived on a stricter environment and maybe she has locked all that crap away. It's true that often times those who have suffered go on to cause suffering themselves because they spend so much time convincing themselves that what happened *couldn't* be wrong, so then end up inflicting the same damage. I also wonder how much her privileged, insulated, homogeneous, White, Mormon upbringing in Utah has affected her outlook on life. Mormonism is not known for its inclusivity and diversity....
Thanks for your comment and perspective🫶🏼🫶🏼
I agree, and wonder if that's how Kim Zmeskal is also. I've heard some mean-girl type things about her and now as a coach, and rumors flew that she trained like Marta and Bela because that's what she knew, so she did the same. She scares me, to be honest lol. The mean girl vibes just radiate off of her, and when I saw Skinner, she's the only other person who made me feel like that as immediate as it did. It doesn't mean anything because it's just my opinion, but it was something that I took in and as the years passed, it's been showing more and more. It just goes to show that sometimes your first impressions and gut feelings are correct 😅
She missed a great opportunity to keep her mouth shut
@@alexalofi you can say that again.
Don’t ever be a mykayla, who talks shit about former teammates when she should be uplifting her former team mates and cheering for them
I saw the video the day she posted it - quite by accident! - and she absolutely was talking about the Olympic team.
"Read a book on media training or self-betterment"... I watched some of her vlogs in preparation for the last Olympics and in one of them she seemed quite proud of herself stating to have come this far without ever finishing a single book in her life. She really said it like that.I think she added "not even in school" but for that I would not hold my hand into the fire. The part before I clearly remember since I love reading books and was very shocked...
Yikes, and she’s probably proud of that. 😂
She is proud of not reading and has said she does not like drinking water, so she doesn't. Her brain is empty, but her kidneys are definitely screaming at this point lol.
I saw the video. She meant every word she said. Exactly. She acts like she's so much better than everyone. That video pissed me off
I saw the complete video before she deleted it. She was clearly talking about the Olympic team.
The work ethics comments were 100% directed to the olympic team. I saw the video before she deleted it. She made a comment on how there were all these falls during the olympic trials and she said this is all due to poor work ethic & how these athletes shouldn't be putting in "college hours".
Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up! #crazy.
By her own logic, she has no work ethic since her form was sloppy, no?
She's thinks she's perfect!
It is not because of poor work ethic according to Skinner, it's because the rule has changed. Her era of doing skill-pause-skill, skill-adjust-skill, uncreditable leaps and jumps are heavily penalized under Donatella's FIG. Skinner without a fall will score less than others' 1.5 beam fall.
I could care less about beam fall on spieth beam used at trials. They should train on gymnova beam like yesterday.
You think she's butt hurt cause she couldn't do both? Idk maybe she's feeling left out?
@@appalachianunicornakaerin8596If she wants to make a comeback and get on her first gymnastics team, she's welcome to try. Show us how it's done, scooter. (autocorrect changed Skinner to scooter and you know what, I don't mind it, lol). Show us how far the 'proper work ethic' gets you.
Thanks, Braie. I've seen both Day 1 and Day 2 of MyKayla's live shows. I firmly believe she needs some media training because she didn't think before she spoke. She was having fun, but it was very sad to watch her simply being rude to people who (she failed to mention) beat her in 2021...
Agreed.
If a degree in Broadcast Journalism hasn't provided MyKayla with sufficient skills to convey her ideas appropriately to respectfully contribute to public discourse, well she's gonna need a whole lot more than media training to turn this around.
@@blissbombard A degree in communication doesn't provide you skills how to convey ideas appropriately during live videos and on youtube
@@blissbombard My education is in broadcast journalism... and my prof said, you need notes, and scripts til you have done life broadcasts for 7 years. Myk was so utterly unprepared for the live show, didn't know the names of the athletes and didn't listen when Sam etc. said them. She was busy, chasing her toddler etc. If she is going to do it, she needs to focus on the program. She also needs to learn to not say things like, "Hmmm, she did a 1½... why would anyone vault with a 1½, I mean really??" Just unnecessary and rude.
Skinner's comments were unnecessary but were also bad on their timing. She basically said everyone except Simone was trash before their biggest competition. The ultimate mind scramble. Why would you do that when you know they need to be focused? It wasn't a good look so I was proud that Simone stood up for her Team. Then to apologize saying you weren't talking about the current team when you were is just untruthful. You are “apologizing” because people weren't on your side. Craziness. I just wanna see these Olympians support one another because they know what the next group will go thru so its sad that she didn't try to build them up with statements like that.
One of the reasons I have gravitated to your videos so much is your ongoing strides and attitude regarding child safety. As a victim of childhood SA, I feel what you say and do to encourage child protection is absolutely amazing!
My only role in the gymnastics world is being a spectator, so I think something as simple as these athletes doing a forward roll is the most amazing skill ever. Gymnasts are the most athletic beasts on the planet in my humble opinion.
This was a great watch btw, you are so well spoken. I remember watching you compete for the University of Arkansas and it was so cool / nice to hear from you again.
Would love for you to post some videos during the Olympics! You clearly know your stuff and would be fun for you to commentate on the happenings of gymnastics at the Paris ‘24 Olympics!
Thank you!!!
First off, great breakdown and staying productive about what the conversation should be about is a breath of fresh air!
That being said, I listened to the video before she took it down and something I have found interesting is that everyone is stuck on the comments about work ethic. Which is silly because you don’t get to be an athlete of that level without a good work ethic, so that’s just nonsensical.
The part she said that shocked me was about how she should have made a comeback because she probably would have made this team…which she only was able to say after 3 major injuries occurred from 3 top contenders…so unfortunately it’s even worse than her just saying folks don’t have a work ethic because the video was actually a pat on her own back to say she would be better suited for the team than the current girls.
An unfortunate display of insecurity and envy and to play off of Simone’s response, someone who loves her should take her microphone away until she is able to say nice things about other people without complimenting herself in the process.
Motherload of irony is she got a degree in communications (I would request a refund on that) and during her watch party she said she should go for a commentator gig 😂 she missed the day about the importance of communication not being what you say, but how it’s interpreted and makes people feel!
Sorry for the ramble 😋
PS posted this before I got to the end and we agree on someone else checking her work 😂 although her immediate circle will be an echo chamber so maybe it should be a non emotional third party 🤣
I was rooting for McKayla in 2021 and I loved her so much but this situation has sadly made me lose a lot of respect for her 😞
She was talking about the gymnast at the Olympic Trials! When it came to work ethic. I watched the original video. I have been a Mikayla Skinner fan for years, and I cannot believe the words that were coming out of her mouth.
She said “I wasn’t ALWAYS NECESSARILY talking about the Olympic team.” So, that means she sometimes might be talking about them, right? She did not apologize for anything she said, didn’t acknowledge any mistakes, only victimized herself and blamed people for misunderstanding her.
BTW, thank-you for your commentary! I always enjoy watching your videos!!💜
I appreciate that!
I adore your ability to empathize and acknowledge that she likely has trauma (or at the very least a really hard time) while also definitely not letting her off the hook.
Also, to imply that Suni’s work ethic is poor when she’s literally in remission from chronic kidney disease? That Jordan lacked it when she had to perform at the olympics right before her mom went to jail? Hezly also being in literal high school?!? If Mykayla wants to see poor work ethic, she should see me right now at work not working but commenting on a youtube video 😂
But it is so exciting to see the gymnasts now older and still incredible, and all of those positive changes you noted. I could see Mykayla trying to believe that she had to go through all of that to get to where she got, but that’s a really scary mentality, especially as a mom. Nobody needs to be tortured (mentally or physically), especially for gymnastics! And it’s messed up that it was so normalized and went on for so long.
id pay to watch skinners reaction of us winning gold last night in Paris
Skinner is a mean girl and that is her personality. I think you are being diplomatic and giving her the benefit of doubt so you are walking the walk. Skinner needs to own her words and be woman enough to work on her cattiness.
I saw the original video the day after she put it on RUclips. In addition to her comments about work ethics, she kept saying that she wishes she was on the team to “Help out “. I’ve watched many former gymnasts review competitions and they didn’t say that. Is she regretting her retirement or envious? IDK 🤷🏾♀️
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What she regrets is that she didn't live the experience. Firstly she was not a part of team USA because it was a 4 gymnasts team, while now it is 5. If the rules were the same, she would have been a part of team US in 2021 too, instead of being a "specialist". And secondly with all that COVID, she missed the enjoyment of the Olympic village and all the fun there, something that she also missed in 2016 since she was an alternative and was sent home before the Olympics started.
@@leykimayri If the rules had been the same in 2021, I think Jade would have been on the team and MyKayla would have been a reserve. So she should think herself incredibly lucky she got the experience she did. Not resentful and unduly arrogant, as she comes across.
@@weesarah86 Exactly! She was the sixth body on that team and had the 2020/2021 code not had those different rules allowing for countries to have two specialists in addition to the four team gymnasts, she wouldn’t be an Olympian at all, let alone an Olympic silver medalist. Let’s not forget she actually got incredibly lucky twice, with Simone having to withdraw from the event finals. She got lucky the first time in being at the games at all, and the second time with getting to compete in an event final to win a medal. Lightning literally struck twice for her.
Thanks for your perspective as someone who is still active in the sport. Sidenote and totally unrelated, your makeup is always beautiful!
Thank you and thank you so much 🫶🏼🫶🏼
I was totally going to say the same thing!
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As a big gymnastics fan, I had to google who skinner was. Not someone who is memorable. She is just salty. This team 2024 was 🔥🔥
I would be careful about using the word bullying in this context. She was a bully by saying the things she said, especially given her platform and the weight she carries. However proportional responses to her are not bullying. Holding her accountable is not harassing. Holding the mirror up to her face is appropriate. Asking her to reflect and pointing out her problematic statements are appropriate. Choosing to unfollow her and setting personal boundaries are appropriate. Trying to force her into our views by threats , is disproportionate. However, this is not bullying. Responding to a bully is not bullying.
I agree, but I still have to give the disclaimer that by no means is my response encouraging anyone to cross any lines and bully her. There’s a difference between responding with constructive criticism and then crossing a line. That’s all I was trying to disclaim and get across.
@@Ayybraiebraieyou guys literally crossed the line .
Crossed what line?
@@Ayybraiebraie do you seriously need an explanation ? Go back to Tokyo 2021 and then you really need to think about your behavior .
Clearly I need an explanation or I wouldn’t have asked? You give no answer to WHAT line I crossed?
You have a great point of view Braie! I really enjoy your podcasts
She has never read a book, she said so herself in a podcast
It shows
I feel sorry for this MyKayla girl... she's not particularly sharp, her marriage to that dude is weird and somewhat toxic (at least it seems from the outside). I can imagine that she sat there with the baby watching all the undoubtedly hard-working elite athletes either get injured (many of the top contenders) or get selected even with falls she must have felt like she could have done it better if... well, too many ifs, that ship had sailed a while ago. She might as well have cheered her "friends" on now that she's out of the game due to her life choices.
Why do you feel bad for her? How is Jonas "toxic" the only one proven to be toxic is her.
It's called jealousy, plain and simple!
Such a well done response! The first 10 of so minutes are the thoughts that have swirled in my head about MyKayla. She has always come across as not having much depth behind anything she says. Maybe her intelligence is fine but she is completely unaware. Someone in her life should have sat her down by now and explained though. Unfortunately I have hurt people's feelings with comments that I didn't think much of because I critique myself just as hard as I critique other people (counselor told me that was something to watch out for). Sometimes my comments aren't a problem because of harshness, but because they are self-centered. I have always been socially awkward so finding ways to take part in conversations has frequently resulted in me inserting myself into discussions that don't need me. When friends pointed it out, i was utterly embarrassed. I explained to them why, and they gave me advice how better to be present in social situations without making it about me. Anyway, I don't know whether MyKayla finished her degree, but she was studying broadcast journalism. You would think that would involve maybe not media training per se, but the issues involved in carrying yourself on camera? I have always had the feeling she wanted a commentator career in retirement, and is desperately grasping for it by setting up her youtube channel. I don't know if she has tarnished any reputation she has beyond repair, but she needs ALOT of help to try to fix things and probably should stay quiet and focus on her family for the next phase of her life. Sorry this was so long, but you are the first response that resonated so much with my same thoughts. I also appreciate your perspective from the elite gymnastics world and how you are clear than intense training is not the same thing as aggressive or abusive training. No gymnast is going to make it to Olympic trials without having been intense in her training.
It takes a lot of emotional intelligence to acknowledge your mistakes and to appreciate your friends for pointing it out, instead of becoming defensive. Good for you and thanks for the insightful comment.
This is amazing! I love your candor Braie! bravo
It can be uncomfortable to finally say, “They are racist and that is just the way they are”
Time for a part 2 💀
She may as well be named McWailer because all she's been doing since she was named alternate in 16 has been whine and complain about not being chosen by the Karolys, and now her green gymnastics Grinch is showing that jealousy. And then to not be picked again and again, shew. Green green green. She used to complain and be so scared of the camps, and now that everyone is going into gymnastics by not bullying and being supportive (like teams in the NCAA, so she should be used to that?) she says the old way is better? Say what? Even her difficulty isnt as high as more than half the team, so what even is her issue lol.
Being jealous is a nasty thing, but saying things out loud is even more dirty because theres always a record somewhere. Theres a reason she wasnt picked, not just by the Karolys. But the new teams too. Maybe think on that a bit, hm Skinner? Just because you say you want it, doesnt mean you'll get it. We all know that. Working hard and giving it everything is good obviously, but you aren't the only one who didn't make it? Being a sore loser is not good for broadcasting either lol.
I did pointe ballet for years, and blew my knee out twice and had to work extra hard in half the amount of time to get back on the floor with a torn meniscus in two different places, two different times, and yeah I was upset when I didnt get a part I wanted. But I also knew when the other girl was picked that she deserved it more because she was going crazy hard and had massive skill and wasnt hindered by an injury.
Sometimes, we dont get what we want and theres a lesson in everything. Especially losing. How she's handling it however, is showing the maturity she needs. That glamour show they did on youtube about gymnastics and her trying to get back on the team for 2020, she gave a sob story about being alternate and how she wanted to be there for her team and rooted and cheered for them and felt like she was what held the group together, I thought it was sweet that she brought some of that NCAA attitude about teams to elite. But I could tell she felt like she was backhanded by USAG and didnt deserve to be an alternate. Its an ego burster, for sure.
I used to like Mykayla… until she opened her mouth. She might have the difficulty, but she herself wasn’t consistent. She had a very promising career, but her mouth got the best of her.
Mykayla Skinner is a low-level gymnast. Her terrible techniques are the reasons she never made the actual team. Her coaches were aggravated with her because she could not correct or improve her mistakes. She gives me she is very MAGA.
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@Braie Swann LOVE this video - I agree with literally everything u say in this video! 💯❤️ Thank u 🙏🏼 u said it all so raw, real, and eloquently !
Hello Braie,
Thanks a lot for the quality and time you took to talk about this topic,
As the saying goes ''turn your tongue 7 times'', I also think that her post statement is really insincere and totally fake which make her case worse.
The 5 girls that qualified worked really hard to qualify for Paris, she really had poor judgement and it felt like that she was a little bit jealous like ''I had to work harder to qualify at the time???'', and also maybe she did not digest the fact the she was not selected for the team in Tokyo and only as individual event gymnast,
Mentioning the "Martha'' era is also disgusting knowing all that happened during camps and the ecosystem around her...
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I am sorry. She is clearly saying that an abusive disciplinary environment is better than a healthy, mental health focused and safety conscious training environment. In light of everything that has happened this is just so disgusting. She clearly was not happy with her own career and is acting like her achievement was greater because the era was more difficult. Sorry, the level of competition is now higher than ever. She is just not a nice person and needs to go away because this is not a good source of commentary for anyone. it achieves nothing in terms of informing or critiquing. An absolute embarrassment to the women who have competed and continue to. Shameful. She needs to learn how to behave with decency and class like Nastia. Nastia is obviously secure in her own career achievements and never has anything bad to say about anyone.
Mykayla apparently never learns... So disappointed and disgusted with her.
I love getting your take. I picked up a slight irony when you said the gymnasts felt fear at Marta's camp. The name of Bela's book was Feel No Fear. Coincidence?
Everyone keeps saying the video is deleted but isn't it the video under the "Live" tab? She was watching the trials live so the videos get saved in a different section. Am I wrong? Is it not that video?
its a separate video from the live parties
She disrespected the sport by her comments. When she disrespected the sport, she disrespected the GOAT.
Ain't no coming back from that.
They won gold for the USA, and she calls them lazy? Is there something higher than gold I'm not aware of?
I loved this video. Very thoughtful and well said.
Well this is an amazing video, and you were SO respectful, which is something she definitely did not deserved from all the stupid content she has posted. She seems to me like a person who did not suffer certain abuses first hand and did suffer some abuse, but the memories have been buried. And so she remembers (or seems to remember) only the nice parts, and that everyone else is just exaggerating. "We won everything so it was worth it" is a fallacy and thank god for safesport!!! Also, from your final comments, "she needs someone to edit her videos", I think it's interesting that she has said many times that her husband is the one who does that. And with that fact right there, everyone can get their own conclusions, I guess :)
I don't know what to say about MyKayla Skinner Harmer anymore! Also, I love the video, Braie! I can't wait for the next one! 😇❤️
Yall our girl made it on chalk box talk!
Amazing perspective. Thank you.
When Mykayla said “the talent isn’t what it use to be” she meant to say that the code of points is allowing for routines to have less difficult skills with higher value. During the Marta era it was expected that you had an Amanar and all these other very difficult skills. Nowadays, Suni’s beam dismount is allowed in elite gymnastics. Years ago that wasn’t even considered a level 9 dismount. She didn’t mean “these girls are not talented like they were during my day” she meant that their routines are watered down versions of their talent. We only see 2 girls now with amanars and 4 girls with chengs (correct me on that) just about everyone on the 2012 team had an amanar. I believe these girls are capable of more skills.
Mykayla isn’t smart enough to articulate words to an audience in a professional fashion. Like you said, she’s known to have done things that piss people off. She’s entitled to her own opinion and I do think it’s ridiculous statement but at the same time I do think it’s ridiculous to get dog piled over an opinion that harmed no one.Mykayla isn’t valid in the gymnastics world that much. She’s a trouble maker with a loud mouth and a silver medal. No one cares or remembers her all that much except when she stirs controversy which she’s more notable for vs her own gymnastics.
I'm glad I stumbled across your channel last year. You stated everything I've been thanking wayyyy more eloquently. Makayla is just petty. I didn't like her back in 2016 and I don't like her now. She'll never change and I love how you can see through the BS and can still offer constructive criticism. If I ever get around to having kids and become brave enough to put them in gymnastics I would love for them to have a coach with your mindset. Amazing. Thank for the video.
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Yep that's the first thing i saw
And im black so that's saying something
What 😂😂 can you explain what they means
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The gymnasts look healthier and stronger now than the 80s.They look much better, and the team spirit is great. They all look like they all worked hard to compete.
The level of ENTITLEMENT is staggering like girl pls
I saw this original video. She was talking about the work ethic of gymnasts in general because coaches can’t push them anymore. What she said about the current team was that she could have make it with all the injuries that happened at trials and that they weren’t as many injuries during trials in the Marta’s era, meaning some gymnasts that are on the team wouldn’t have make it in the Marta’s era with what they did at trials.
She said the work ethic during Marta’s era was better but she also said several times that they were a lot of bad that came from it but that maybe it’s too lax now.
During all of it she said except Simone, Simone is incredible.
It was bad because even insinuating that it was better when people were getting abused is unacceptable.
Everything else was not that bad. I understand other gymnasts being mad at her but other people are making it into something bigger than it is. Mykayla is a super conservative, not super smart, right wing person. What she said wasn’t unexpected. Not great but it’s whatever. I’d already move on before it suddenly made the news.
Okay that stuff isn't even true. There were absolutely injuries during Marta's era, the gymnasts were just made it to work through them, sometimes being broken physically and/or mentally to the point of having to retire from elite. McKayla Maroney had a broken toe she had to lie about. Dominique Moceanu had a fractured tibia as I recall. Ohashi could have been treated properly and still be competing. Second of all we know the code for coaches 'pushing gymnasts.' It requires toxic training methods. They called them lazy even when they were busting their butts back in Marta's day. It's a dogwhistle by Skinner to act like gymnasts are lazier now when the same accusations were hurled before, the difference was more of the gymnasts were wyt.
PS I think we all know she make sure to make Simone an exception partly because nobody would believe Simone's lazy and partly because she's (MyKayla's) an opportunist. There's always been a vibe of clout chasing every time she brings up Simone.
@@KaiOpaka I was an elite gymnast many years ago and the level of abuse (verbal, physical, sexual, emotional) was so much worse than anyone can imagine. And we are talking about children (life long damage for many).
In the words of Olga Korbut in Defying Gravity: The Untold Story of Women's Gymnastics Ep 5: 'It never goes way. Even 50 years later'
@@white_peony23 "The Untold Story of Women's Gymnastics Ep 5: 'It never goes way. Even 50 years later'"
Because there are students who are likely to coach from what they've learned...that's why Safesport needs to exist in order to maintain safety, weed out the patches of old guard.
@@creating1_c1999 Agreed regarding Safesport, & hopefully other countries will do/are doing the same. Olga Korbut's quote relates to how the effects of the abuse never really leaves you, never goes away, even after 50 years. She describes her coach as a monster. As someone who trained in the Soviet Union, I saw first hand how bad it was
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Tbh i ppl were egging her on in the comments.... I dead ass told her to stop giving more details when some commenters were clearly setting her up. The lack of work ethic was referring to the fact that 4 of the 5 spots have been "locked" for a while. During Rio i think 3 or 4 spots were up for grabs. Simone and aly were the only true locked spots . Thats what she was trying to say . Her lazy husband wasnt helping. He kept tossing their kid at her to take care of her. MCK kept aski him to wat h her she was having trouble keeping up with everything
They know her tipping zone due her past actions. She's a Mormon. She should be more stealth and have more self-control. The devil is always playing fast and loose. Simone considered her a friend. Simone considers her teammates to be friends. They've each worked with her on a team, or at her gym, including Hezly. Friends forgive, but the internet doesn't forget.
Great analysis of all the parts of this situation! You are very well-informed and fair. You're the only person I've seen so far to mention that Mykayla just isn't the brightest bulb in general, in addition to her poor sportsmanship and microaggressions. Simone ate with that post, to the extent that people who don't even follow gymnastics are giving her flowers for putting a sharp periodT on that whole narrative.
Thank you so much !!
I think this conversation is so important and not for the reasons people automatically think. It’s insane to me how much SA happens in elite gymnastics that’s perpetuated by governing powers. It’s all connected and it’s sickening.
OMG momma!!! "Low IQ vibes" had me rolling on the floor! Shots fired (kinda, I get you and it wasn't intended with malice, you gave your opinion honestly and objectively)
I did watch an interview with her from back in October when she mentioned that she had learning disabilities and I don't know if she said dyslexia, so schooling was hard for her. I have always been bugged by the way she talks that it's like she's asking a question with every statement she says. That may be just the inflection of how she talks but it always comes across to me as she's not what she's saying. In that same interview though she shared the negatives about the old camp they had and how much they hated/feared going. She also brought up the lower work ethic that the gymnasts now have in her gym but also at camp since the change in leadership. In some ways it gave a different perspective but she still kept making statements that were oblivious and sometimes wrong. She mentioned that bar routines in the elite world have 15 skills in them to show how much harder they are than college routines. I know that college routines don't have nearly as many skills as elite routines but I don't think elite routines have 15. She was also adamant that every time she didn't make a team it was political.
you got a subscribe from me for starting your video that you're not trying to encourage anyone to bully Mykayla Skinner. i don't think anyone deserves to be bullied, and excited to see the rest of your content
Thank you 🫶🏼🫶🏼
ACCOUNTABILITY is the word.
There's a lot to unpack with her. In my professional opinion there are deficits. I look at her, then I look at Sam and Laurie. There's a difference. I believe that she's been given a lot of grace but very little chastening for error which has made her extremely resistant to correction.
Love and light to her, but indeed accountability is how we grow. She's not the only person in media who does this. But if she wants to be successful, she needs coaching. Stop listening to the coven of witches and warlocks stroking her ego and telling her she did nothing wrong.
There's so much talent in this quad. How can anyone form their lips to say the talent and work ethic isn't there when these gymnasts are pushing through injury. People who sign on to agree that the "era" was different, needs to follow up with how abusive it was and what it produced besides medals.
We need to understand that these athletes are not robots. You don't need to berate youngsters to train them to perform at their best. Their careers in the sport is for a short while. All of that abusive language and action leaves them depleted of any value or worth when their career ends.
I appreciate what SafeSport has brought to gymnastics. It's going to take time to make the changes in the culture to be second nature, but I like the direction it is positioned to be.
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Simone is the oldest female gymnast to compete since 1952.
She also said that she's could've made the team if she had trained for it with how sloppy the ladies who made the team were at trials. And she did make exception for Simone.
Yeah that comment was wild!!
For her sloppy means falling. Anything else isn't sloppy.
Okay I've been waiting for someone other than me to talk about this
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GREAT VIDEO!
You should do an update. Simone clapped back for real this time! “lack of talent, lazy, Olympic champions”
Yes I also thought USA has some deep talent after those injuries
I unsubbed from her when she was so disrespectful about the food in Tokyo. It was insulting and acting that on camera just shows how obnoxious it was
How was she disrespectful?
U nailed it 🥰✨
Mykayla did create her own problem. Don't blame other people that misunderstood what you said
OR…. Hear me out…. Or she meant everything she said. Shes just upset that everyone is going off on her for it.
The hard work & dedication our national team gives to the sport is readily apparent to most. It's like she (verbally) spit in all of their faces, and that's disgusting.
I would think she is Media trained. Right. She's been on TV so many times now. Like Today show. All that stuff. The IQ thing makes sense here.
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Braie give Skinner the same energy she gave. It's fair. There's really no excuse for her vile comments. I believe, she studied journalism and apparently she did poorly on that too. She's all about herself ... OMG there's a magazine featuring her because of her 1 silver Olympic medal. i suppose that gives her more energy for her delusional grandiose personality.
I’m not going to give the same energy she gave because I’m not like her and I’m not trying to be like her.
@@Ayybraiebraie I get it ... I'm just saying that if you did it's quite understandable. Like you said how many times are you going to give the person the benefit of the doubt. A lot of times if the person doesn't feel the same energy they give out ... they never know how they make other people feel.
She was talking about the Olympic team to me. I saw her live video. I thought she was talking about the Olympic trials and the Olympic team. I could have missed something, but I thought she was talking about the Olympic team. Anyways she is wrong for saying it no matter who she was talking about.
Imagine the locker room tensions
What was the exact comment she said that pissed everyone off? Was it just the work ethic thing?
Marta grabbing faces was definitely a power move.
Probably if she were just an ordinary person, it would not matter. However, she should know that she is not only a former Olympian but also a former USA gymnast, and her statements might be picked up by people and media persons. There's a conflict of interest, so she should choose her words wisely. I would understand if she was on a radio or television show commenting on athletes or issues because she is paid to do that, but this is just her opinion on social media, which is more accessible to the youth nowadays.
I find it so funny that she’s studiying broadcast journalism. How?
I think she conflated work ethic with ability to hit under pressure. The team went over a decade without a fall in major international competitions. They have fallen in every major competition sometimes multiple times since the end of the Marta era. The Russian team outscored the team even in prelims with Simone in 2021. They’d be serious competition if they were allowed to compete in 2024. BTW...Marta was an abuser and deserved to be removed obviously.
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Oh my god I love you!! I've been so busy focused on the winners. I didn't even know about the comments of the loser!!💯💯💯💯
Love your videos. So I want to say..... Maybe mckayla skinner needs training in talking to people in the media. You have to remember platforms reach all types of people so you might be offending people and you don't realize it.
100%. And I don’t think it’s necessary to tell people watch what you say in case you have fed someone because honestly, people find a fence and almost everything. But I think it’s still fair to ask people to communicate the best they can and in the most constructive and respectful way possible.
Girlie went to Utah to get a communications degree and try to become a sports caster.
@@ArikaNrazzle You need to educate yourself about what "communication degree" means. Let me inform you that it does NOT mean you have courses on training how to talk to people in media.
@@leykimayri I know it doesn't give you media training, but I think that's what she was under the impression it would do
HEY BRAIE!!!! WHERE YOU BEEN!!!!!???