I would say that the lesson here is that the Devs don't know what they are doing and don't play their own game in any meaningful way. Just adding multipliers randomly is NOT balance.
It’s crazy to believe it’s already getting to season 7 and the devs still have no idea how to improve the playability of the vast majority of classes in the game
What you mean? This is only the second season since they have completely reworked everything from the ground up... again. We are basically still in Alpha at this point.
@@andrazi4050 completely rework everything like idk, making a new game IS and should of done to begin with ? How 3 titles 2 expansions and 20 years + not counting d4...
@@sake02 Not intended as an attack, but you're going to have to "English" a little better than that. I can't make heads or tails of what you're trying to say.
look, once again blizz is going to social media looking at mekua and assuming every single sorc player is doing this and they are fine everything is nerfed according to mekunas gameplay (flame Sheild, lit spear, firebolt etc) the problem is that this means that every sorc build is mekunas build and they just dont even understand the classes gameplay loops enough to make the class and gameplay itself interesting
Extra Jewelry - there's an idea. I totally agree on that 3rd enchant slot. I was thinking they just let us equip wand and offhand (along with our staff) and we have a selection somewhere that marks us 2 handed or 1 handed .
The third enchantment slot wouldn't even be enough. Maybe if every enchantment had at least a 20X damage multiplier like the necromancer's book of the dead
@@scoliosisking6143 Well,. it would sesntially be our third, since famialr now does burning cus its bugged, so we are not locked to fire bolt as one all of the time. So it would be a start. But yeah they should allso have theire values looked over for sure.
I only play Sorc so I will admit that I am biased but it seems that most of the beneficial changes to Sorc skills over the last couple seasons have targeted fire skills which, to me, is the least interesting element in the Sorc arsenal. It gets frustrating and tiring.
Its obvious blizzard doesnt have anyone in house that is/can do this type of analysis. They really need to get in touch with some of these creators pushing the limits for balance suggestions.
They also lack imagination for skill design. D3 despite its flaws, the uniques and runes on skills were FUN. I don't see anything remotely approaching the fun I had with angry chicken hex witch doctor in D3.
I'm new to the Diablo franchise. Do they not have people who can do math or even set up spread sheets to find out where the numbers end up with each swing of the weapon? This is just math right? I just don't understand why there is such a difference in the numbers for each build. Seems like every character gets one good build a season (besides Barb!) and we just wait for someone to post the best builds. I know I'm missing something.
I just cant understand how they cant just have a season without more than a few bugged paragon nodes. Its sad that i dont even expect them to have no bugged interactions. Thats how low the standard has gone with them. Like every single season, its use this because its bugged, use that because bugged. Its always based on bugged interactions with skills and paragons, or aspects.
This has been a fantastic season. SpiritBoring or nothing. If you want a viable class other than SB, you need multiple mythics. Are mythics dropping? Of course not! I don't mind playing SB once in awhile but my barb and sorc are absolutely nerfed and it makes for a very boring season.
I went through 4 ascendent tribute (high chance of dropping mystic unique) for undercity and got no mythic. Farmed Duriel/Andariel for about 200 solo runs and got an Ahavarion at Gregoire. I feel cursed.
@@ThomasSoles I’ve made nine now make that 10 different tunes this season and I have and two of them are only spirit born. Three of them are sorcerers ones in Necro ones a bar one’s a Druid might be for sorcerer’s not exactly sure but I’ve played a lot.
So, as far as I can tell there is not one single change that is going to help my Lightning Sorcerer. I might as well give up now since I'm struggling around the 90 pit mark and short of suddenly finding mythic uniques with all perfect aspects I don't see how I can get enough damage to progress.
The Lightning Spear build was, IMO, the best Sorcerer build of all time. To just nuke it into the ground is extremely frustrating. Removing the fun from the builds that become popular is just maddening.
Sadly, I am done with any other class until they can cast skills without an interrupt. Spiritborn can just hold down the buttons. Sorceress has to release a button to allow another button press to work. This is my big thing right now because it's QoL. I don't feel like tring to play Chopsticks just to cast skills when another class doesn't have to do that.
I'm not sure what you are talking about here. i hold down right click and smash all my buttons. You can set up something like Razer Synapse and macro cast everything except tele/evade/flame shield (the stuff you would want to manually control) too if you want. Apparently it's against TOS, but its a huge QOL upgrade so I don't give half of a flying fart.
I play on console and when I play Sorc, I can hold down Fireball, and still activate all my other skills without releasing the button. Not sure why this wouldn't be true for PC players as well... Unless you're suggesting that console might be the superior platform for this game... Although to be fair, I've heard about a lot of different bugs this season that have been disconnecting people randomly or people just not being able to play at all... And on console I've experienced those issues ZERO times.
Blizzard has always hated mage classes same stuff happened in wow back when I played were plate classes could out dps and take many hits were we drew agro we died. We need a 3rd enchantment slot but I will try d4 next season.
I mean, it always sounds like “oh, they're complaining again,” but to be fair, what should we do? The game is good at this point. Still, without better balance, armor, and more new stuff, it's over after two weeks every season and that's a shame. How great would it be if we had the chance to tinker through mechanics and game modes all season long, but well, somehow they're now getting the free time they didn't get because of Vessel of Hatred. And that's especially noticeable with the Sorc class. I don't want to be bored by the game but I am bored by the game and that makes me also sad since I really like it.
5 of the 6 classes are nowhere near strong enough you almost have to play the spirit born to have any fun. Now that I think about that number I’m kinda of surprised there’s only 6 classes. A few more to choose from would be a massive win for everyone the game would be far more interesting that’s for sure.
Minion necros also got nothing. They still can’t target things you want them to target, meaning every area with must-kill-this-first monsters (which is all endgame content) is bad for minion necros.
Honestly, need that 3rd enchantment slot put back in. As well as a slot for wand and offhand unlocked with staff and some sort of option to select which weapons we use. That, or, you know... someone who is a competent leader with a proper vision at Blizzard. Also, I know they are trying to subvert the expectations and all and we are ultimately going to end up being the bad guys somehow, but how about some armor or cosmetics that actually look good?
My incinerate/hydra build has been insane all season. That being said, it plays as a support class that rules in group play. I can only easily clear pit 35, and nightmare/ compass are jokes. My random spawn hydra will spawn and clear a room before I even enter. The issue I am having is if I get touched/farted on as solo I die in one hit at pit 36+. My paragon is at 200+ currently. Please help as I love the build but I want to push higher tier with out re-rolling. Should I finish out my boards then dump my remaining points into strength for the armor?
Thanks again for putting the spotlight on this! Seems like the devs just dont know. They think sorc is on par with the rest. That being said,. i have no idea who and how anyone is doing pit 106-7 without shatter? most builds stop at 94-96, with the gear at 70-80% at max.
i mean there is ToxicSkin build fishing for boss , necro (highest clear fishing for boss) even Touch of death Stinger or early stage of QV builds use shatter (soothsayer) idk why you claim that not the best "presenter" of the class , it is like this since Mekuna built the fire ball type of build , since season 4 if im not mistaken , so now every one figured out shatter is no no we need actual damage ? if mage gonna get chnage , idc how broken is SB , but they need to fix Soothsayer and give actual power to Toxic skin or ToD or Stinger or Bone spirit Necro as well .
Ever since sorc and pally being THE classes to run, blizz has given them the short end of the stick. Pally is gone and sorc has been nerfed to all but oblivion. Sad times.
I've been using fireball builds and it looks like none of these changes will help my build in any way at all. Not gonna lie, I'm feeling disappointed. I might as well start a new character; time to try spirit born.
Combustion is wronged! It is getting bonus from “Damage over time” and NOT from “Damage vs burning”, as tooltip says. Torch glyph is “Burning damage” which simply means “Fire damage over time” and it counts in the Combustion. General “Damage over time” also counts. Flamefeeder’s doesn’t count. In addition there is also no +%damage temper that favors Burning (sorry Incinerate fans), other than the general +fire dmg. There should be some "+% Fire Damage over time” or even “Damage vs burning” temper, that actually works with Combustion. *there was "+% Fire Damage over time” temper in season 5, but it was removed?!?!? Does Blizzard knows about that?
Hydra was buffed but hydra sucks because theres a delay when it finally starts to spit flames. The ice shards buff is counterproductive. All the passives are trash. Enlightment is just goated.
every season, one step forward and two steps back. They love giving us something and nothing at the same time. JUST so they can say they technically buffed the class.
What's even the point of familiar? Did they really look at sorc and say 'You know what this class needs? More conjurations!" It's just another pointless skill you can't make a viable build with.
I don't understand why it's so complicated for them to balance builds. It feels like they are not the most intelligent people. The need for single target boss damage is obvious. It's only a handfull skills and classes in D4. It really can't be this hard.
I really hope POE2 is good, because I'm sick of the way blizzard treats sorcs. It's the only class i play and when you still see things like ice spikes 3%+ 'buff' made in a balance patch >6 seasons in< there is just no way this class is getting properly fixed anytime soon.
Unpopular opinion, but maybe if Enlightenment wasn't completely OP, Vyrs Mastery with 25% DR and effectively 50% damage boost wouldn't be "on a good way" but already better than almost any other key passive in the game 😅
There is nothing there that would make me play Sorc for the remainder of the season. Still anything non-spiritborne just wont be fun to play and if you go into party finder, you will still be kicked if you are not spiritborne
and incinerate and meteor. People are lazy and its just easy to complain. I dont care about comparing my sorcerer to anyone else or even do pvp. I play against my personal best and enjoy the journey. The game is fun but I'll gladly take any buff they throw to sorcerer.
I think to every class right? lol every class only has 1 build that is abusing bugged stuff to get to where they are at. each season is just which class can abuse their bug the best to me
yeah. nothing to be excited about. not significantly more damage. I stopped playing a couple weeks ago and don't see myself going back. I don't have hope the next season will give me a reason to play again. I don't like playing broken builds so spiritborn was never appealing to me and knowing that if I start now it would just be taken away from me, like everything good sorc has ever had, gives me no reason to play.
Season 5 was a blast though I think they could vastly increase core skills and buff the aspects for them a bit and we would be fine I just don’t get why we can’t get what the other classes got. Who the fuck plays meteor nobody, nobody really ever will
With how OP the stupidborn turned out to be, there was never ever any need to nerf/change S5 sorc. (LS) There wasn't any bug. I never felt/saw any server lag issue with it. Anyone who wanted to experience the new content would've had to buy the expansion anyway, even if they opt not to play stupidborn. So it's not like they would've lost revenue. D4 developers got some personal grudge against the sorc class in general.
I played Lightning spear Sorc last season, regularly hitting 40+ conj mastery stacks. If there were any other sorcs in my party doing the same, the game would lag. Anecdotes are powerful
Additionally, even if the number of conjugations was lagging some players, did they need to exercise such a sweeping nerf? Limited total conjugations Limited lightning spears Changed the lightning spear temper Changed fractured winterglass And made no efforts to offset damage nerf/loss from these adjustments. Spiritborns would still maintain superiority by 1000x. No?
There are so many current builds that need a buff but Blizzard just buffs some random crap and hopes players will try. This is exactly like a mobile game called "Summoners War", whose devs random buff monsters that no one uses and ignore the monsters that need a serious buff. Welp, after all, multibillion indie corp.
I'm sorry but Lightning spear sorc is the best build in the game if you exclude pit pushing, you teleport around faster than mounted players and everything dies the moment it appears on the screen if in solo play, what other class other than spiritborn can clear T80 in 2 minutes or speedfarm nightmare dungeons nearly as fast?
I can sneeze with a SB 242 and pit 101 is cleared. Trying with any other class and I can't do anything. Today these are 2 different games. Either SB or you play "Classic"
At least it isn't a 45 min video this time. Season 6 is dead to me, i have no plans on coming back till season 7 and there needs to be some real reasons to grind another season.
A big one is realizing all the fire buffs to entice you into a powerful damage over time build then you realize DMG over time builds like barb bleed, druid and spiritborn poison with Shattered Vow polearm mythic.......... why am i here? just to suffer? [cue that high-pitched anime moaning song]
Noooooo why the sorcerer blizzard keeps messing up the sorcerer class for no reason you got spirit born is op whirlwind barbarian is op druid landslide is op why do they keep touching the sorcerer and destroy the class they need to leave it alone
It's the only character I like playing, but it wouldn't be Diablo if sorcerer weren't a weak, uninspired afterthought. Maybe they should reintroduce paladin.
As someone who actually uses Familiar, Hydra, incinerate, and combustion 😂 this update is Christmas morning for me! Granted I only play couch coop on eternal T2 so I'm clearly the minority player. I don't have an endgame build like LS because I still don't have any mythics. So at least Blizzard is looking out for the little guy like me 😂
The game has been in a horrible state since before it supposedly launched. I guess launched into paid alpha is the closest I can give it to an actual launch though. So, how is that Microsoft's fault?
Sorcerer sucks balls right now and I really dont like the way they restructured the game this season. Its even more pointless than before with fewer options of pointlessness.
For real. All I ever hear is Barb and Sorc players whining. +20% increases to skills that suck isn't going to catapult Druids to the front of the class. These whiners have ZERO clue how much better they have it than Druid players. At least they have bugs to exploit, Druids don't even have that.
This crap is y i quit playing for good they cant just make them work and leave them who the f cares if 1 class is to powerful every single season its the best or the worst or the best for the first half or the last half of the season or randomly gets changes 4 times tn the same season you go from being able to destroy everything to getting destroyed and having all the gear you farmed turn worthless they literally are incapable of balancing any of their games the fun police have to much power
I hate to say it but Poe2... Last Epoch. D4 balancing has always been a bit of a joke, how many viable builds have just been nerfed to the ground? Almost everytime they adjust something. Let's be real, Diablo 4 is a shit game. Yeh i'll keep playing it but if you really look at it as a whole and from the $$$$$$$$ it came from, it is pretty bad. The expansion was only good because a new class is exciting to play, once we worked out how broken it is and how bad the other classes actually are, most people left. Hopefully poe2 is a smooth launch and LE come out with something spicy because D4 needs a lot of work which we have been saying since launch. Honestly, they need to skip a season and keep on cooking that pasta to eldante, not undercooked, undersalted RAW.
Why dont they just delete this game and continue to expand diablo 3…. Man eventually i will sell this game for a bag of potatoes and go back to diablo 3… what is this bro just what is this?.. did they make a game based of need for gaming for this new gen Z gamers that would sell their own mother just to have their “realistic” graphics… real diablo fans what did we allow ourselves…😔😔🙏
The lesson here is this: The only thing you can trust devs on, at least in regards to Sorcerer, is that the devs can't be trusted.
I would say that the lesson here is that the Devs don't know what they are doing and don't play their own game in any meaningful way. Just adding multipliers randomly is NOT balance.
Sorc still hasn't recovered from the lvl 25 beta nerfs.. lmao
@@akhsdenlew1861😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 BROOOOOOO
It’s crazy to believe it’s already getting to season 7 and the devs still have no idea how to improve the playability of the vast majority of classes in the game
What you mean? This is only the second season since they have completely reworked everything from the ground up... again. We are basically still in Alpha at this point.
@@andrazi4050 completely rework everything like idk, making a new game IS and should of done to begin with ? How 3 titles 2 expansions and 20 years + not counting d4...
@@sake02 Not intended as an attack, but you're going to have to "English" a little better than that. I can't make heads or tails of what you're trying to say.
@@andrazi4050 "We are basically still in Alpha at this point" is definetly part of the issue young man
look, once again blizz is going to social media looking at mekua
and assuming every single sorc player is doing this and they are fine
everything is nerfed according to mekunas gameplay (flame Sheild, lit spear, firebolt etc)
the problem is that this means that every sorc build is mekunas build
and they just dont even understand the classes gameplay loops enough
to make the class and gameplay itself interesting
yerp
Devs thought we (sorcs) enjoyed seeing spirit borns being so much powerful than us that wed like to see everyone more powerful than us.
They really should give us back the originally intended 3rd enchantment slot AND allow Sorcs to wear at least one more jewelry piece.
Extra Jewelry - there's an idea. I totally agree on that 3rd enchant slot. I was thinking they just let us equip wand and offhand (along with our staff) and we have a selection somewhere that marks us 2 handed or 1 handed .
Or simply add an item or two that gives enchantments
AND a third weapon slot for 2 hander.
The third enchantment slot wouldn't even be enough. Maybe if every enchantment had at least a 20X damage multiplier like the necromancer's book of the dead
@@scoliosisking6143 Well,. it would sesntially be our third, since famialr now does burning cus its bugged, so we are not locked to fire bolt as one all of the time. So it would be a start. But yeah they should allso have theire values looked over for sure.
I only play Sorc so I will admit that I am biased but it seems that most of the beneficial changes to Sorc skills over the last couple seasons have targeted fire skills which, to me, is the least interesting element in the Sorc arsenal. It gets frustrating and tiring.
Its obvious blizzard doesnt have anyone in house that is/can do this type of analysis. They really need to get in touch with some of these creators pushing the limits for balance suggestions.
Ive been saying this too! Yes, they need people that understand the class intimately and are capable of pushing the class to its limits.
They also lack imagination for skill design. D3 despite its flaws, the uniques and runes on skills were FUN. I don't see anything remotely approaching the fun I had with angry chicken hex witch doctor in D3.
I'm new to the Diablo franchise. Do they not have people who can do math or even set up spread sheets to find out where the numbers end up with each swing of the weapon? This is just math right? I just don't understand why there is such a difference in the numbers for each build. Seems like every character gets one good build a season (besides Barb!) and we just wait for someone to post the best builds. I know I'm missing something.
I think it really is just math, D4 is just really bad at it.
I just cant understand how they cant just have a season without more than a few bugged paragon nodes. Its sad that i dont even expect them to have no bugged interactions. Thats how low the standard has gone with them. Like every single season, its use this because its bugged, use that because bugged. Its always based on bugged interactions with skills and paragons, or aspects.
One thing I like about how bad the Sorc is right now is that when she does finally get a buff, like a real buff, it's gonna feel FUCKING GLORIOUS
This has been a fantastic season. SpiritBoring or nothing. If you want a viable class other than SB, you need multiple mythics. Are mythics dropping? Of course not! I don't mind playing SB once in awhile but my barb and sorc are absolutely nerfed and it makes for a very boring season.
I went through 4 ascendent tribute (high chance of dropping mystic unique) for undercity and got no mythic. Farmed Duriel/Andariel for about 200 solo runs and got an Ahavarion at Gregoire. I feel cursed.
@@Kavino yeah that’s some crap RMG there buddy
Love this comment. My account has 3 characters, a SB, a Sorc and a Barb 😂
@@ThomasSoles I’ve made nine now make that 10 different tunes this season and I have and two of them are only spirit born. Three of them are sorcerers ones in Necro ones a bar one’s a Druid might be for sorcerer’s not exactly sure but I’ve played a lot.
@@1ceStream Gotta have my burly barb and spell wielder!
So, as far as I can tell there is not one single change that is going to help my Lightning Sorcerer.
I might as well give up now since I'm struggling around the 90 pit mark and short of suddenly finding mythic uniques with all perfect aspects I don't see how I can get enough damage to progress.
Let's be honest, any class clearing over Pit 120 is abusing some sort of bug to do so.
Then why there is pit 150 that means old class just bad?
#balance
The Lightning Spear build was, IMO, the best Sorcerer build of all time. To just nuke it into the ground is extremely frustrating. Removing the fun from the builds that become popular is just maddening.
Sadly, I am done with any other class until they can cast skills without an interrupt. Spiritborn can just hold down the buttons. Sorceress has to release a button to allow another button press to work. This is my big thing right now because it's QoL. I don't feel like tring to play Chopsticks just to cast skills when another class doesn't have to do that.
If you play on controller tht is not a problem
I'm not sure what you are talking about here. i hold down right click and smash all my buttons. You can set up something like Razer Synapse and macro cast everything except tele/evade/flame shield (the stuff you would want to manually control) too if you want. Apparently it's against TOS, but its a huge QOL upgrade so I don't give half of a flying fart.
I play on console and when I play Sorc, I can hold down Fireball, and still activate all my other skills without releasing the button. Not sure why this wouldn't be true for PC players as well... Unless you're suggesting that console might be the superior platform for this game... Although to be fair, I've heard about a lot of different bugs this season that have been disconnecting people randomly or people just not being able to play at all... And on console I've experienced those issues ZERO times.
Blizzard has always hated mage classes same stuff happened in wow back when I played were plate classes could out dps and take many hits were we drew agro we died. We need a 3rd enchantment slot but I will try d4 next season.
I guess this is one way to promote POE 2
the original POE sucked ass. A terribly boring game.
I mean, it always sounds like “oh, they're complaining again,” but to be fair, what should we do? The game is good at this point. Still, without better balance, armor, and more new stuff, it's over after two weeks every season and that's a shame.
How great would it be if we had the chance to tinker through mechanics and game modes all season long, but well, somehow they're now getting the free time they didn't get because of Vessel of Hatred.
And that's especially noticeable with the Sorc class.
I don't want to be bored by the game but I am bored by the game and that makes me also sad since I really like it.
5 of the 6 classes are nowhere near strong enough you almost have to play the spirit born to have any fun. Now that I think about that number I’m kinda of surprised there’s only 6 classes. A few more to choose from would be a massive win for everyone the game would be far more interesting that’s for sure.
Minion necros also got nothing. They still can’t target things you want them to target, meaning every area with must-kill-this-first monsters (which is all endgame content) is bad for minion necros.
I made a sorc in the hopes they would get decent buffs and i waisted my time. Dec 6th is coming fast
Honestly, need that 3rd enchantment slot put back in. As well as a slot for wand and offhand unlocked with staff and some sort of option to select which weapons we use.
That, or, you know... someone who is a competent leader with a proper vision at Blizzard.
Also, I know they are trying to subvert the expectations and all and we are ultimately going to end up being the bad guys somehow, but how about some armor or cosmetics that actually look good?
My incinerate/hydra build has been insane all season. That being said, it plays as a support class that rules in group play. I can only easily clear pit 35, and nightmare/ compass are jokes. My random spawn hydra will spawn and clear a room before I even enter.
The issue I am having is if I get touched/farted on as solo I die in one hit at pit 36+. My paragon is at 200+ currently.
Please help as I love the build but I want to push higher tier with out re-rolling. Should I finish out my boards then dump my remaining points into strength for the armor?
Go frozen orb
@RussellFeatherstone don't want to re-roll
I noticed they changed the aspect of overheating from fire critical strike damage to burning now
Thanks again for putting the spotlight on this! Seems like the devs just dont know. They think sorc is on par with the rest.
That being said,. i have no idea who and how anyone is doing pit 106-7 without shatter? most builds stop at 94-96, with the gear at 70-80% at max.
so what is scorc best build now??
i mean there is ToxicSkin build fishing for boss , necro (highest clear fishing for boss) even Touch of death Stinger or early stage of QV builds use shatter (soothsayer) idk why you claim that not the best "presenter" of the class , it is like this since Mekuna built the fire ball type of build , since season 4 if im not mistaken , so now every one figured out shatter is no no we need actual damage ? if mage gonna get chnage , idc how broken is SB , but they need to fix Soothsayer and give actual power to Toxic skin or ToD or Stinger or Bone spirit Necro as well .
What's the point? THey aren't fixing SB.
Ever since sorc and pally being THE classes to run, blizz has given them the short end of the stick. Pally is gone and sorc has been nerfed to all but oblivion. Sad times.
I've been using fireball builds and it looks like none of these changes will help my build in any way at all. Not gonna lie, I'm feeling disappointed. I might as well start a new character; time to try spirit born.
Wait, so even though they said Avalanche would scale with Vuln damage, your conclusion is it isn’t because of how the patch notes are phrased?
Look forward to what you might be trying out! I too am not a fan of the builds that require abuse or have requirements the normal player can't reach.
I want something like “burn damage from meteor instead chills enemy by x%”.
No lightning buffs?
Combustion is wronged! It is getting bonus from “Damage over time” and NOT from “Damage vs burning”, as tooltip says. Torch glyph is “Burning damage” which simply means “Fire damage over time” and it counts in the Combustion. General “Damage over time” also counts. Flamefeeder’s doesn’t count.
In addition there is also no +%damage temper that favors Burning (sorry Incinerate fans), other than the general +fire dmg. There should be some "+% Fire Damage over time” or even “Damage vs burning” temper, that actually works with Combustion.
*there was "+% Fire Damage over time” temper in season 5, but it was removed?!?!? Does Blizzard knows about that?
Hydra was buffed but hydra sucks because theres a delay when it finally starts to spit flames. The ice shards buff is counterproductive. All the passives are trash. Enlightment is just goated.
Great analysis. I hope that some from Blizzard watching and taking notes
every season, one step forward and two steps back. They love giving us something and nothing at the same time. JUST so they can say they technically buffed the class.
December 6th will be D4's execution day, mark your calendar ladies & gentlemen.
Why is that
No it won't everyone who has to much trouble with POE 1, will still be playing d4 because POE 2 will be just as complicated.
@@The11jjclements wondering the same thing.
@@Valverde713 skill issue
I agree I already cleared D4 off my hard drive to make room
blizzard hates sorcerers. they just shoved that bugged out familiar skill down our throats. wish they'd fix the bugs before buffing garbage.
What's even the point of familiar? Did they really look at sorc and say 'You know what this class needs? More conjurations!" It's just another pointless skill you can't make a viable build with.
I don't understand why it's so complicated for them to balance builds. It feels like they are not the most intelligent people.
The need for single target boss damage is obvious. It's only a handfull skills and classes in D4. It really can't be this hard.
Is the Grandfather in this season?
I really hope POE2 is good, because I'm sick of the way blizzard treats sorcs. It's the only class i play and when you still see things like ice spikes 3%+ 'buff' made in a balance patch >6 seasons in< there is just no way this class is getting properly fixed anytime soon.
These AAA Studio's are clueless because they are hiring activists instead of talent. ActivistVision.
Love the intro! That's what happened to me, as a sorc player... i just exit the game and moved on. If I got 1000 likes I will sure hit it here.
Blizzard/Frozen orb sorc is back ! does combustion works with DOT ?
Doubt it. FO doped LS worked great in PTR and didnt even need a cherry Winterglass. Now its broken. Cant really ramp up a good LS chain at all now.
Unpopular opinion, but maybe if Enlightenment wasn't completely OP, Vyrs Mastery with 25% DR and effectively 50% damage boost wouldn't be "on a good way" but already better than almost any other key passive in the game 😅
There is nothing there that would make me play Sorc for the remainder of the season. Still anything non-spiritborne just wont be fun to play and if you go into party finder, you will still be kicked if you are not spiritborne
It might be last in pit clears but its #1 in fun to play imo. I can live with that
They buffed ice spikes bruh
and incinerate and meteor. People are lazy and its just easy to complain. I dont care about comparing my sorcerer to anyone else or even do pvp. I play against my personal best and enjoy the journey. The game is fun but I'll gladly take any buff they throw to sorcerer.
Mate, your same arguments can be applied to Barb. Only Might Drop can do well past 100 because of bugs
I think to every class right? lol every class only has 1 build that is abusing bugged stuff to get to where they are at. each season is just which class can abuse their bug the best to me
Both of y'all can be quite when Druids are struggling to crack t110 with ANY build. Sorcs and Barbs stay whining... My God, man.
@@mausypwns98Except Druids. There is no bugged Druid builds. Just straight ass...
@@kennyhouser3467who is both of yall? Lol
yeah. nothing to be excited about. not significantly more damage. I stopped playing a couple weeks ago and don't see myself going back. I don't have hope the next season will give me a reason to play again. I don't like playing broken builds so spiritborn was never appealing to me and knowing that if I start now it would just be taken away from me, like everything good sorc has ever had, gives me no reason to play.
When has the sorcerer ever been good in this game outside season 1? Lets be honest
Season 5 Was peak sorcerer
@duugenheim21 naw. Not better than shotgun sorcerer that dominated the vanilla game
Season 5 was a blast though I think they could vastly increase core skills and buff the aspects for them a bit and we would be fine I just don’t get why we can’t get what the other classes got. Who the fuck plays meteor nobody, nobody really ever will
@@tron7116baskenator has a really cool Meteor build idea. But only shows Pit 80, unfortunatly.
Blizzard, let us use polearms or at least make Shattered Vow the exception like other mythics.
With how OP the stupidborn turned out to be, there was never ever any need to nerf/change S5 sorc. (LS)
There wasn't any bug. I never felt/saw any server lag issue with it. Anyone who wanted to experience the new content would've had to buy the expansion anyway, even if they opt not to play stupidborn. So it's not like they would've lost revenue.
D4 developers got some personal grudge against the sorc class in general.
I played Lightning spear Sorc last season, regularly hitting 40+ conj mastery stacks. If there were any other sorcs in my party doing the same, the game would lag. Anecdotes are powerful
@@amaurys93 is the game lagging because of server or client? I've never had the issue. *shrug*
Additionally, even if the number of conjugations was lagging some players, did they need to exercise such a sweeping nerf?
Limited total conjugations
Limited lightning spears
Changed the lightning spear temper
Changed fractured winterglass
And made no efforts to offset damage nerf/loss from these adjustments.
Spiritborns would still maintain superiority by 1000x. No?
There are so many current builds that need a buff but Blizzard just buffs some random crap and hopes players will try. This is exactly like a mobile game called "Summoners War", whose devs random buff monsters that no one uses and ignore the monsters that need a serious buff. Welp, after all, multibillion indie corp.
I'm sorry but Lightning spear sorc is the best build in the game if you exclude pit pushing, you teleport around faster than mounted players and everything dies the moment it appears on the screen if in solo play, what other class other than spiritborn can clear T80 in 2 minutes or speedfarm nightmare dungeons nearly as fast?
hey, is there a build you can recommend?
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@@blackswan0611 I have done this one. Clearly fun and fast
Rogue Flurry Overpower but you run the real risk of developing carpal tunnel so there's that.
lol fire bolt and firewall the most boring build we have and the only one that can push pits, really frustrating patch notes
I can sneeze with a SB 242 and pit 101 is cleared. Trying with any other class and I can't do anything. Today these are 2 different games. Either SB or you play "Classic"
At least it isn't a 45 min video this time. Season 6 is dead to me, i have no plans on coming back till season 7 and there needs to be some real reasons to grind another season.
A big one is realizing all the fire buffs to entice you into a powerful damage over time build then you realize DMG over time builds like barb bleed, druid and spiritborn poison with Shattered Vow polearm mythic.......... why am i here? just to suffer? [cue that high-pitched anime moaning song]
Sorcerer is pretty good at mobs but meteor should definitely be a boss or elite killer.
It is Baskenator has a really cool Build idea but unfortunatly he only shows Pit 80. So don't know how far he could go if he tries to max it.
Maybe the buffs were the friends we made along the way
Noooooo why the sorcerer blizzard keeps messing up the sorcerer class for no reason you got spirit born is op whirlwind barbarian is op druid landslide is op why do they keep touching the sorcerer and destroy the class they need to leave it alone
RIP Sorcerer.
It's the only character I like playing, but it wouldn't be Diablo if sorcerer weren't a weak, uninspired afterthought. Maybe they should reintroduce paladin.
As someone who actually uses Familiar, Hydra, incinerate, and combustion 😂 this update is Christmas morning for me! Granted I only play couch coop on eternal T2 so I'm clearly the minority player. I don't have an endgame build like LS because I still don't have any mythics. So at least Blizzard is looking out for the little guy like me 😂
how can I get runes?? or the thing to create a mythic ??
I put Sorc on hiatus after last season
The devs, you enjoying the sorc, here let's nerf the hell out of it
All these kids in the comments talking about PoE r here watching D4 videos and not playing PoE 😂😂... Smh i hope PoE2 is good cause PoE was garbage.
Sorcerer ? ... Man go play Druid and update this video 😂
Nah man, it'll still be Druids.
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blizz just lazy..they force ppl to play spiritbored..the character is already OP..now its just faceroll op
Why is this so hard for them, lack of people I expect, Microsoft to blame no doubt
The game has been in a horrible state since before it supposedly launched. I guess launched into paid alpha is the closest I can give it to an actual launch though.
So, how is that Microsoft's fault?
yep
Sorcerer sucks balls right now and I really dont like the way they restructured the game this season. Its even more pointless than before with fewer options of pointlessness.
Maybe a meteor build with the Rune that has meteors as well?
Maybe they'll buff sorc in season 7
Druid didn't get a whole lotta love either
For real. All I ever hear is Barb and Sorc players whining. +20% increases to skills that suck isn't going to catapult Druids to the front of the class. These whiners have ZERO clue how much better they have it than Druid players. At least they have bugs to exploit, Druids don't even have that.
Wtf is boss adds????
Better nerf my lightning spear again. Just to be sure. Shit sakes this is nonsense
Well you where the best class for two seasons so make room for another class ☺️
Can Druids get a little shine for once? Jesus H. Christ man, they fucking blow and have blown since s2.
This crap is y i quit playing for good they cant just make them work and leave them who the f cares if 1 class is to powerful every single season its the best or the worst or the best for the first half or the last half of the season or randomly gets changes 4 times tn the same season you go from being able to destroy everything to getting destroyed and having all the gear you farmed turn worthless they literally are incapable of balancing any of their games the fun police have to much power
Sorcerer has always been bad except season 5. So not new news unfortunately. They all hate sorcs
I WANT PERMANENT UPTIME IN MY LIFE
still the best class...
Okay I thought it was just me having trouble with this GARBAGE ass class (was my favorite in the 3rd game tho). This is LAME
time to cry in a corner
Seriously…what skills do the people developing this game have? There’s nothing original at all.
The conjurations are ass, blizzard spikes are ass
I hate to say it but Poe2... Last Epoch. D4 balancing has always been a bit of a joke, how many viable builds have just been nerfed to the ground? Almost everytime they adjust something. Let's be real, Diablo 4 is a shit game. Yeh i'll keep playing it but if you really look at it as a whole and from the $$$$$$$$ it came from, it is pretty bad. The expansion was only good because a new class is exciting to play, once we worked out how broken it is and how bad the other classes actually are, most people left. Hopefully poe2 is a smooth launch and LE come out with something spicy because D4 needs a lot of work which we have been saying since launch. Honestly, they need to skip a season and keep on cooking that pasta to eldante, not undercooked, undersalted RAW.
C'mon i told u at beginning the D4 game design is crap.
Nothing remotely usefull for Sorc in this BUFF patch. Garbage.
Disapointing
Why dont they just delete this game and continue to expand diablo 3…. Man eventually i will sell this game for a bag of potatoes and go back to diablo 3… what is this bro just what is this?.. did they make a game based of need for gaming for this new gen Z gamers that would sell their own mother just to have their “realistic” graphics… real diablo fans what did we allow ourselves…😔😔🙏
Anyone still hoping this game will be good is losing.
Can get rid of the crap at the end of the videos
done with this shallow excuse for a game
Mid season bullshit
Just accept that this game is dead. Move on 😢