I tried the Oculus Quest HAND TRACKING! Play VR with just your Hands! Any Good?
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- Опубликовано: 9 окт 2024
- Oculus Just Announced something completely unexpected for the most popular Virtual Reality Headset! The Full Hand Tracking for the Oculus Quest! A new way for people who own a Quest headset to interact their and menus! I had the opportunity to try it to give you guys my impressions and share with you my first experience! is this going to work? How does this tech work? let's discover it together!
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They see the potential for cost savings by increasing demand on only one headset. The more they make of the same headset, the less each headsets costs to make.
Once they release a quest 2 with all of these features. (The link, hand tracking) and more it will probably be the best headset ever
@@williamsmith6921 you have to wait a few years for it. I'm sure that leap motion update is not the last one for v1.
@@williamsmith6921 that's what I will be patiently waiting for. Also, I hope it has higher res and more cameras for tracking. I have a bad feeling that they will switch to lcd tech than stay with oled.
It's honestly amazing how far VR has come. First we started with tethered, now we have wireless, and we're about to get wireless (w/o controllers). It just keeps getting better and better!
Thanks for the constant coverage Tyriel, you're the only vr channel I watch consistently since your content is always peak :)
Thanks Sed! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I agree with you Sed! Keep bringing us all of the details, Tyriel! 👍 🔝
peak means really bad
Hand-tracking Quest vs Rift S -- the guys over at Adam Savage's Tested interviewed one of the engineers. Hand-tracking on the Quest is implemented in the Quest's DSP rather than processed in software, so it would need a very different solution on the Rift.
It would probably be phenomenally laggy too.
The guy said they were working on a PC solution, but only so that developers can build and test their Quest titles in PCVR.
They will definitely add this feature to Rift S. And even if not. It's kind of overrated. It's a nice feature to control menus, but gameplay can't be reduced to a small area of tracking plus zero control feedback.
@@dimiav Overrated? I disagree -- it serves a different purpose from controllers, just as an X-box style controller serves a different purpose from a keyboard and mouse. Hand-tracking is used a lot in VR therapy for non-gamers and to create a better sense of presence. It's also useful in training (again, non-gamers).
I made a little tech demo of a language learning game using Leap Motion on the desktop, and I'm now considering turning it into a full-blown Quest experience. People loved the simple stuff done with hands -- they picked it up quickly and enjoyed the process.
Whether it comes to Rift S or not depends on how much DSP they built into it for Insight, and if it has the capacity for the hand-tracking. I suspect that the additional camera means that they're using more DSP blocks than on Quest just running the existing insight tracking.
@@nialltracey2599 it's definitely overrated... Especially as based on the Drama surrounds it in matter of all the gamers.
Quest is targeted mainly for gaming. Everyone who talked about this feature and everything demonstrated was for gaming
You are talking about niche purpose such as therapy...
Yes it's a nice feature. But With way too much limitation mainly the very small area tracking.
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You're perverted
Lol
Just wonder what other parts of the body it will be able to track in the future 😏
I couldn't help but disambiguate the ambiguity.
When does elixir come out? That looks like fun
I would really like to see Oculus develop some light weight gloves, with tracking markers, that you can use for better, faster, tracking (optionally).
Furball Photo I like that idea i wouldn’t mind wearing a glove to improve the quality of the tracking.. not saying the tracking will be bad but anything to improve it would be a nice option
But if thats the case then we also need feet tracking as well for that
AWESOME news, this is what will make VR a whole lot easier to get into and I'm excited to what kind of game's that will take advantage of this great feature. I'm a huge fan of VR and it has become my favorite way to game. There are so many ways this could be applied to game's but I hope they will incorporate things like guns or baseball bats or anything that we use with our hands to give it even more immersion in the VR world. Either way it's a great idea and I know it will only help game developers to use another tool in creating game's of the future. I can't wait to see how far this new technology will go in bringing the VR world to us gamers. Thank's for the video and for keeping us informed and update on what's happening in the VR industry I appreciate it so please keep up the AWESOME work and I'll keep coming back for more and sharing your video's with as many people as I possibly can. 👍💯👍
As a rift s owner, I was surprised to be left out of such nice technology. I would instantly replace my controllers for experiences like social apps, watching content or dealing with my desktop. It doesn't make sense also considering oculus would be interested on popularizing this technology. I think (hope) it's coming to rift s latter.
Carlos Paroli I don’t think the rift s is even worth updating anymore, it was a complete fail for oculus, I highly doubt they’ll add this to the rift s.
@@truerepz4800 comparing to the quest sales, you could say that. For me, that still plan to play exclusively on the pc, the rift s is still a better headset. Maybe they will ignore the rift s because of poor sales, or because the tracking technology is too different, or because they want to keep the same features on rift and rift s. Whatever the reason, it's unfortunate to me. But, I can live without hand tracking. Would be nice to have it though.
Handtracking is obviously a way to make VR cheaper because you have to buy less hardware. So ifcourse they first gonna implement it on their cheapest hardware so they can make their next piece of hardware even cheaper in the hopes to get more sales. Only when it is perfectly implement and does reduce the cost of their cheapest gardware they might try to implement it on the rest. They probably think that those who like to spend alot can just buy a leap motion device for this.
@@plukke_b2048 I think hand tracking and controllers are for very different usages. Games (most of them) will always prefer controllers as they give you feedback and have low latency. For navigating on Netflix, browsing, etc, would be preferable hand tracking. Probably most people would not buy a quest without controllers, they would probably go to the oculus go instead.
@@cparoli1111 one day, hand tracking will be as good as controllers considering latency. Peripherals can give feedback ,the only problem i see is movements without teleport ,you kinda need an analogue stick for that ,unless you wanna talk about treadmills but they wont reduce any cost either.
I see this more as a "always around" UI controller, not really for games.
Like navigating menus and Netflix etc. But I dont think they will be able to "fix" the issues with overlapping hands on this device because it just uses the cameras.
It is impressive nontheless.
Thanks for bringing us coverage of this event. I'm getting a Pimax 5K Plus, based on your "through the lenses" vids. It's the FOV that I'm really sold on. And I'm sure it's going to be a big step up from the Oculus Rift CV1.
As always, top tier content from you! And your enthusiasm is contagious! o7
Buy the 8K for $100 more.
Slate Ian don’t let the 8k it’s overpriced and looks worse because of the screens chosen the 5k+ looks better
@@bellabean1597 oh I don't know that.
Omg this is awesome can’t wait for the update
All the people that talked about hand tracking yours is the best
Lools very cool i cant wait for it to get polished !
I would have rather have a wider FOV for controller tracking. Hand tracking is a novelty. It will bee cool for a a day or two then you'll find having a controller to work with gives more control of the game. The quest is amazing but I do get frustrated from time to time with the slightly limited controllers tracking area.
Great coverage, interesting commentary, stellar editing 👍 Imagine spending one week in VR with octopus hands then taking your headset off lol
instead of using hand/finger tracking for actual gameplay there are lots of other things like scrolling a libary or tiping (shown in the video) where i see the most potential for early implementation.
while gaming u could let go of both controllers if u actually use the strap, so its possible to switch between interaction methods in games. it could be used for small puzzles, crafting menues, lock picking etc. just as part of a game.
i hope we can use 1 controller for movement and other button input and use 1 hand for finger gestures for ingame interactions like casting spells or playing beer pong
Great video! Very descriptive and you covered all the angles and questions. Thanks a bunch
I'm about to get the quest and this one's just making it stronger (the feeling "I want it"!) it just sounds as good as it looks can't wait till 2020 😬😅
Do it m8
Yeah i know thats exactly how i feel
Well, the resolution is shit but sure, if u never used vr, go for it.
Thanks for trying it and giving us the info, saved me the wait in line!
Maybe price drop for S or deals on ebay soon. Sold my Rift 6 months ago for $240 and would be happy to replace it with an S for good price.
Oculus Rift S hand tracking + KatVR leg trackers = practically no use for controllers and even more breathtaking VR experiences.
it might not come to the s.
yeah I do feel a little left out as a Oculus S user, but it doesnt bother me knowing that literally noone else has that technology. Not that saying that its bad. I do like feeling like im holding a gun or a bow while I play and less of a mime. Im sure that technology has it use.
I would like if the add gloves that vibrate when you touch something in game so it feels more realistic and tracking points to make tracking better
Because the Rift S is going to be phased out. By next gen a wireless adapter will be more than possible with Wifi 6. Just include an dedicated USB-C dongle Wifi 6 Adapter or make it optional. Why have a Rift and a Quest when you can sell one device that does both? All it does is add more value to the purchase decision. I see gloves or feedback bracelets as their next controller or an add on.
I felt when the specs were announced for the Rift S and Quest it was semi apparent that their focus was on the Quest. Which makes sense as Oculus has no competition for the Quest, they are the big dog. PCVR though is a saturated market and an expensive one.
With the announcements this week of hand tracking and link, I see the Quest as potentially the best VR headset you can buy.
This is just my opinion. But, why would you buy a Rift S now? For an extra camera but lower-res screens and software-driven IPD versus a wireless HMD which could harness your PCs power and open up the Rift catalogue (as long as your PC is VR ready), then throw finger tracking into this mix. So again why would you buy a Rift S?
The Quest is a leap forward for VR, not a step. It truly has the capacity to attract the casual gamer and steer VR away from the enthusiast hobby it is currently seen as.
Thanks for the video, mate.
I would agree after these new features it's hands down the best VR headset.
The Quest is literally gonna be Ready Player One's OASIS type of headset (not counting the graphics but graphics ain't everything and only brings a *_little_* more fun).
This is legit Ready Player One in real life.
@@RedLee20
Getting way ahead of yourself there. Long ways to go before it's literally or legit Ready Plsyer 1
@@SheepAmongG.O.A.T Nah, you're just not looking at it the way I am.
@@RedLee20
You mean unrealistically? lol.
I already have a pc ready for the rift, and it seems like it's the higher end product, so it's frustrating to think they'd hold back with the higher end features like hand tracking on the rift
They aren't holding back. Too much drama from nothing...
Rift S is getting all new features all the time. Aome of them before Quest.
Thr Passthrough plus exists on Rift S aince June. And it's only niw coming to The Quest
Why buy anything else at this point? Quest can act as a rift now with hand tracking, just a little more front heavy, I think that’s a pretty decent trade off.
I was saving for a rift s. And ended up with enough for an HTC cosmos and now im more leaning towards a quest. My ass is over here still using the CV1 lmaoo
just keep your money. The Quest doesnt offer visual fidelity as all the other VR sets. Im sure the next big thing will come out in 2020.
I chose a Cosmos because the headset is better, and it will also have finger tracking at some point, if you really want it. I dont expect it to be compelling because there is no haptic feedback. I dont expect camera finger tracking to be very good anyway.
Holret
I mean, with it doubling as a pc and portable headset for pnly $400, I don't think it's a bad purchase at the moment
@@prowlingtiger2226 True, but keep in mind VR moves so fast as of lately one shouldnt rush to buy whatever is new and possibly gimmicky. Save your money. 700$ is an investment.
Holret
$400.
Or, I guess if you include the link, around $480 or so.
Pretty damn expensive yes, but it's worth it for the experience none the less. It's a hybrid console/pcvr experience starting november.. your logic could be applied to all technology.
I don't feel sorry for the Rift S buyers. They already paid the exact same amount of money for a bunch of cables versus a snapdragon 835, 4 Gb ram, 64 Gb space, wifi, BT (now in this case the cables can't recognize handmovements but the snapdragon can).
And I bought the Quest only for PC gaming - played over 200 hours with GearVR + S7 + ALVR before (Elite Dangerous, Hellblade, Subnautica, Robinson the journey, Project cars, ...). After buying the Quest and tried out 6DOF PC gaming with ALVR (new experimental forks only for Quest) I was fully convinced.
So I never understand the pricing of these two headset. The Quest is too cheap or the Rift S is too expensive.
I have bought a Rift S in the last week and now I saw this video and the videos from facebook. I dont understand why they are developing that just for quest. I love to play using my computer because it is better than a smartphone hardware. I hope that Facebook implement this for Rift S as well. Do you think that it is possible? Do you think that they will "kill" rift s?
Is beta available to public in January 2020, or sooner?
So is this coming to the rift s to? Edit: i got to the part you said the rift s isnt getting this and honestly that really sucks i would really like it if they update all the headsets rather then one i wouldnt want to buy another headset just to be able to have hand tracking and it should definitely be available to the rift s
Why Isn't the hand tracking also coming to the Rift S?
It shouldnt be to hard to get it to work there, am I right?
Yea, but zucc wants you to buy quest
@@attackLive damn lizard
BlueberryNeko i love this comment
@@ValMephora XD
@@ValMephora Therr was a reason for it. Don't remember what is was though :P
Ppl need to cooldown with the hand tracking. It will be fine to interact with the menu/ui and that's it. Don't expect to play with it and have great gaming sensation.
Next VR headset i will buy will be one with a 130/140 fov. Hoping the Oculus Dôme will do the job on 3-4 years !
Rift S owner here. I don't feel that betrayed by the hand tracking because even if they sort out the occlusion issue there are various other issues I see with it. Thumbsticks and buttons work in games and apps whereas gestures have to be learned and aren't as quick. Also, the performance trade off on the Quest feels like it will be too much on a system that's already a bit lacking in the first place.
Hi Tyriel, what would you say is the best way to make your oculus quest more comfortable without replacing the strap completely?
a face cover but I rather replace the strap with the halo.
Hi! Great coverage as always! Thank you!
About the hand tracking, is a sad decision about not giving it to the Rift S. The best thing that can happend, is that Vive gives better hand tacking to the Index, Cosmos and Vive Pro, so Oculus would be forced to do provide hand tracking to the Rift S... i think...
About using it, i think that still lacks some haptic feedback. Maybe some gloves with ir leds over the nails, and some motor in the fingers for the haptics? Anyways, is a nice adition, but not that usefull if the hand and the controller cant be mixed toguether...
They are working on this for Rift S, people are making too much drama...
Pretty clear that Oculus/Facebook won't do any deveolpment for Rift-S so we got what we got with Rift-S and that kinda sucks, just hope they continue to at least improve the software but I won't hold my breath on that one tbh.......
Complete nonsense. Rift S is their High end model, even with the Link.
Rift S is getting new features all the time. Some of them before Quest like the Passthrough plus that exists for Rift S since June
@@dimiav Mkay....
I am getting Quest tomorrow...but i wonder if they soon make Quest 2 with latest Snapdragon chip and maybe more cameras or something...maybe i will regret it not wait for second version but who knows...they dont say anything in the press conference so i thing Quest 2 not comming soon maybe. What you guys think?
A new quest is at least 2 years away from our current time. Buy one and have no fear my friend!
"Oculus says you can expect the Quest to last 2 to 3 hours after a full charge". This is a weak point of the Oculus Quest.
Gonna buy it when im home from my vacation in 7 weeks
So if hand tracking comes to all quest games , how the hell will we move around if you don’t have a big space
good question! That's why I think the hand tracking will remain limited to options screens or multimedia apps
I’m just curious my fingers are very double jointed and I’m wondering what happends a double jointed person played?
I hope it's that they're trying to sell more quests by releasing the tech there first, giving people a feel for the VR and applications, and then releasing a more polished version for the Rift S, so that it's the logical upgrade path... I mean... getting a quest as a hand-me-down would keep the cycle of VR adoption up!! Step 1: get quest; Step 2: get a PC to use the link; Step 3: upgrade to a Rift S
But why would someone ever want to "upgrade" to a rift s when the quest has more functionality? I have a VR capable PC and I bought my Quest week 1 and chose the quest over the rift because its portable and i figured that it would eventually be able to connect to my PC, even if not officially. I have zero plans to, and I'm really not trying to come off as hostile it's just my opinion, downgrade to a rift s.
younsaid you tries everything with your hands but did you try "the shocker"? lol
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Big question, what about haptic feedback?
Kelsey Hughes maybe we ask god for that update
Nero link will send singles into your brain and making you feel everything that happens in the game all wirelessly and or without a vest
Hi
Can we shoot using oculus hand ? Play FPS game ?
Great video, man!! I added it to my megapost about OC6!
Thanks Tony!! You can post the link of the article here!
@@Tyrielwood Thanks! It is this one: skarredghost.com/2019/09/29/all-you-need-to-know-oculus-connect-6/
Well i think it won't be available on the Rift S since it doesn't have a General purpose CPU in there and the OS is very simple Quest have A better CPu OS since it have to run apps inside it so that's why its not possible to do ala the calculations on the S
Any chances we will get it on Oculus Rift S later?
It doesn't seem like it makes sense not to develop it for the Rift IMO.
I think its also a campaign, a trick to increase the current sales of the Quest and later on, it will be available for the Rift or a module/adapter will be made for it.
I don't get how it would be much harder to do on a more powerful headset...
There's a chance, but Oculus themselves have said that it is not something they are looking into at the moment.
@@DurosModz I see, still doesn't make sense business wise to handicap one of their product so much in favour of another. But meh, I don't care that much about hand tracking for now.
Promethor well they don’t care about the rift I guarantee this is the last gen of the rift they didn’t even design this one they sent that to Lenovo they spent all their time designing the quest mobile vr is the future and they’re trying their hardest to push that
@@bellabean1597 I think you are right. Tho, I think they will probably keep making a separate Rift headset for those who want that kind of device. Maybe more like a second thought and not their main product tho. I think there is a market for both, but yes, they will probably keep let 3rd parties design the headset and focus on the more mainstream Quest, their goal right now is to get 'critical mass' so business wise it makes sense to focus their efforts toward the quest, a product that let everyone experience vr from anywhere without the need for a powerful computer.
Promethor well after the link for the quest was announced i think it’s obvious that there isn’t gonna be another rift because the next quest is most likely gonna be a hybrid too but better designed for rift it’s gonna be a mobile headset and also be able to plug into a pc and in a couple years the tech is gonna be ever better than today’s so I think the rift is gone tbh
I feel like I've been scammed into buying the rift s. No one would of bought one 4 months ago if they knew the quest was going to get a link and hand tracking and they were not putting any effort into the rift s.
I dont feel scammed by buying my Rift S cause of other reasons and it does a great job for my gaming which is SIM Racing, but do agree that the Rift S has always been a lower priority compared to the Quest and has always been looked down on in some ways compared to other VR headsets. I shall wait and see what 2020 has to bring to us in VR world before I will jump on the Quest bandwagon. I originally bought the Rift S to see how LCD displays looked for myself with my games, and found out the majority of the time it was much better than my CV1. Tyriel does a good job of telling the truth about how new VR items work such as LINK and this hand tracking.
True not having hand tracking is horrible but it does look like we might still get it also the link will still not be as good as the rift s when it comes to image sharpness because it will have to use supersampling
I hope it will eventualy come to rift s or get hacked so u can. Hopefully they will cave to the pressure. It surely cant be that hard to also impliment to the s.
Superhot, beat saber, and space pirate trainer will be fun
Fast paced beatsaber requires speed and precision and aint much of an interactive experience. Imo it isn't likely to offer hand tracking support. Superhot on the other hand... Well that is a game i crave to experience that way!
It will be a hand tracking update for rift s as well. They just present this on quest because is the main product.
kamaracso source please
@@ninuvids is just a guess. But once they got the software developed, why shouldn't update Rift? I bet you they release it for both at the same time.
kamaracso if it were that simple, they’d say. S has different cameras and layout. It will be simpler than developing from scratch but there isn’t a plan right now. Most likely they’ll see how people like it on quest first
I wish I knew about this and oculus link before I bought both an oculus quest and rift s
Ravioli118 i mean its still cool to switch once in a while
I really don't think that hand tracking is a reason to switch from the rift s to the quest
Really for gaming I prefer the controllers and I can see why the hand tracking is useful for netflix and browsing but still I'm not gonna use it for gaming and that it's the main reason for buying a vr headset now at least for me
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Finger tracking seems meh. No haptic touch or feeling in your hands means a very empty experience in my opinion.
I agree, but this is just the beginning. The future looks bright.
@@Ripcity1993 If they add haptic feedback gloves, then we'll be onto something pretty cool. Will have to be pretty precise though. Otherwise it will just be weird.
I see your point for sure, I'm just glad they have interest in it so soon. It's only going to get better.
This is awesome. :)))
Rift S FTW.....
So no more free locomotion. Everythings back to teleporting? Am i missing something?
That's a good point. I think their will still be a controller, but its something that will rest in your palm and not need a constant grip. So you can use your hand when needed
Or hand signals. Fake Controllers. Or shake your hands to move.
any word if this will be available for Rift S?
no sadly
Rgr
can't wait Facebook has really pulled it off I'm amazed thank you Facebook. Oculus is already ahead of Ready Player one with hand tracking now besides it breaking sometimes but it still works and they are going to end up blowing Valve Index out of the VR world
Playing Keep talking and nobody explodes with hand tracking,...sounds interesting :)
Is better rift s, graphics, and response systems,
His english is not bad at all, but i dont really get why he keeps pronouncing the H like they were muted, eg: had - ad.
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R. I. P Rift S , 21/03/2019 - 25/09/2019
Noooooooooooooooooo.
@@stefordlucky6056 Yesssssss. Just sell it and get a Quest.
@@RedLee20Oculus quest can last only ~2,5 hours after a full charge. I don't like that.
@@stefordlucky6056 The charger cord is long. And you don't need to be in VR for that long. Thats a small, very very small, down for the Quest.
@@RedLee20 Do you have to charge the Quest every single time? I usually play ~ 4 hours in Rift S. I take a couple of breaks(5-10min).
How would you move?
i got the quest. i am trying to improve the lat on the wifi mod. the lat ono Vridge is worst than when i use the AMD relive style. know how to improve things?
Be sure to be on the 5ghz connection and close to the router
@@Tyrielwood i stood next to it but nothing. when i use the amd relive mod the latency is fine. it just the Vridge mod that lat is really bad for some reason.
What if you're missing a finger or two?
Peter Pettigrew feels you ^^
anyone wondering about their rift s check out thrillseekers video
I’m still going to love my rift s. But the index users going to be a little salty lol.
Pawpi you can use leap motion to get hand tracking on the index and its way better than the quest
@@bellabean1597 True you can spend another $170 on a Leap Motion Controller on top of a $1000 Index and get a better experience than the preview of the Quest version.. The Quest version isn't even out yet so you can't say it's better or worse. The Quest hand tracking is free, no other developer has even hinted at this.
lol how, I can track with my hands behind my back
also why ever get leap motion with an index? the controllers already have built in tracking
ロケクリスティアン because it’s complete hand tracking without needing controller in your hand so it feels mote natural
There's no games that support finger tracking anyway, it's been around since the leap motion I had one like 8 years ago or something, it's as useless now as it was then, fancy hardware means zero without supporting software. "gimmick" a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or trade.
Their looking out for us Quest users
Why isn’t the Oculus rift S getting hand tracking????
Why not able on The S ???
Cause the s ain’t got sensors
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