What people dont realize about his first piece is that it blocked a lot of people from viewing the fountain. Tons of people in miserable jobs having their one highlight of the day looking to their side to see that fountain. Then, it’s gone. Yes, art can make you uncomfortable, but when people have little comfort and you take that from them, you are just doing harm. Always keep in mind the consent of your viewers and think twice if you are preventing another piece of art from being appreciated.
Ok but who decided to put an huge, dark sculpture in the middle of a perfectly nice park or plaza? Like, regardless of the art of it it's obstructing the view and making it darker. Governments need to understand that arts need to be appropriate for the space you are putting it in and the people who will see it. A park or plaza is where you put art that compliments the landscape, mostly commemorative pieces related to that spot. Putting something jarring there to make a statement won't make any statement cause people won't stop to reflect on it when the want to take a nice walk and they see a slab of dark metal in the middle of the street.
The curves are cool but they’re dynamic and also displayed better. A single black panel of steel in the middle of a park is basically just putting up an unnecessary wall.
Almost all artists aren’t rich in the slightest. Art should be enjoyed by those who enjoyed it and those who created it. You don’t have to like it, but you shouldn’t down play it
well the reason why art exists is because of the rich (renaissance noble elite would sponsor artists to display how charitable they are, and to help benefit the economy) so the more eccentric the better
Ive heard he was a pretty crazy guy too. There is this one sculpture on my campus shaped like ( ) and after it was installed the band played inside and made this horrible sound, and he loved it because it was so bad.
Something we discussed in my art history class was how the difference in interaction between a person in the curves creates a feeling. You feel enclosed and pressured when inside them and they create an imposing maze from the outside. The line doesn't have these same qualities which is why it is harder to defend as art in a public space. It lacks interaction.
I love these sculptures. I went to Storm King in college. When you walk through the spirals, you feel kind of nauseous because the ceiling space gets wider as the floor space gets smaller... and then it alternates. I still remember how unsettling you feel as you walk through it. So cool! RIP Mr. Serra.
This unlocked a memory. I swear it might have been some of his peices but I remember as a kid being at a museum and eventually getting down to a huge warehouse space with these large metal walls to wander around. Wish I could remember which gallery it was.
I dont rhink the lack of curves was the peoblem ppl had with the first one, the art seems to cut a corner plaza diagonally and obstructs like half of the ways to aproach the building from the corner, the most highly trafficked area. Oh, and it blocks the fountain from the building 😂
Don’t be scared to walk through them y’all. I don’t think they can fall! Very well constructed and safe feeling when inside. I’ve seen the curves in Spain and California.
I grew up in Pittsburgh, went to the Carnegie Museum all the time, and when I was a kid in the 80s a Serra sculpture was installed out front, near the entrance. A big 40-foot tower made of leaning panels of thick COR-TEN steel, a tall kind of V shape. Quite a monolith. Then as an adult I moved to Seattle, and while living there, the Olympic Sculpture Park was conceived and built, and they installed a massive Serra sculpture with five matching pieces, undulating walls with S-curves. Incredible to be around. He was special, had unique vision
what is the purpose?? im genuinely asking bcs to me it just looks like a blockade in the middle of public space? is it pretty? sure but it's mostly very inconvenient
I like it aesthetically but it didn't really have a functional purpose - one of the more legit reasons the people there wanted it down is because it cut across the main walking path through the plaza and women felt unsafe having to go all the way around it at night. It was sort of antifunctional in the end.
We stopped in Bilbao, Spain for a few hours and I had the pleasure of seeing ‘The Matter of Time’ exhibit, which is that big room full of those spirals and sheets. It was so cool because you really don’t understand the pure size of it till your walking through one, the walls rising up above you. I could have roamed on it for hours. The straight ones were fun too because they had the coolest effect of amplifying your voice. It was magical
Where I went to college they had a piece of his work, I was always afraid the tilted wall would fall on me when i walked by it and I tried to avoid them as a result
My high school choir went to the Guggenheim in Bilbao and saw one of his installations. We all lined up and sang inside, it sounded so dope. Cool to learn more about him!
His sculptures are incredible. I had the opportunity to experience one of his installations at Dia Beacon in Poughkeepsie, NY- absolutely incredible and still remains to be one of my favorite memories of a contemporary art piece.
They are soooo fun to run through!!! When I was a kid we used to go to the Guggeinheim musseum and me and my cousins used to play hide and seek in them 🖤
he put an installation at the fort worth modern art museum and it’s one of my favorite pieces the way sound echos off the steel is so encapsulating rip
I mean, imagine paying someone for an art piece and just getting a piece of steel. Tf? Anyone could have done that. Great story thought, Def interesting art
I mean the flat one is literally just a rich persons wall in a place where it didn't need to be. Not to mention it blocked views for the locals there. The curves are a space in and of themselves but the wall never was, it's just straight metal. It's not a space or induces anything outside of being placed in a terrible ass spot. I feel like there could've been a better set up for it than there.
RIP Richard your work is incredible I’m glad I’ve been able to experience it. I don’t relate to what to you’re saying about his work I have really enjoyed it in person
In my opinion, a steel wall is incredibly unappealing in an already ugly ass city to be honest. The wall just didn’t work with the space either, there was nothing dynamic or even remotely interesting about it to even think it added to the visual. The curves is where the pieces become interesting and engaging. Like you want to investigate the curved sculptures and interact with them.
Saw some of his work at the Guggenheim (I think??) and it was magical. Felt completely transported when you walked through it, like you were in a natural formed ravine for something then poof your back in a museum! Loved it!
Richard Serra created Wright’s Triangle on the campus of WWU in 1979/80! Beautiful piece; it helps the flow of foot traffic on a busy part of campus, and when classes are in session you can hide inside the triangle as crowds of students pass by🙂 rest in peace
“‘We commissioned you to do it. We can do whatever we want.’ Fair.” Not a great way to look at it as an artist advocate. You might want to look at droit moral in France or CAPA in California for example. Many places around the world believe that it doesn’t matter who paid for or commissioned the work - that the artist still has a moral right to the work s/he created.
To some extent, yeah, but the artist doesn't have a moral right to blockade a huge public space with that art. As a general rule I lean more towards the view that if you're going to send something out into the world, then you need to be ready for the world to interact with it in ways you don't like. The whole point of sending it into the world is to see how the world responds. If you want to keep complete control over art and it's responses, then you've got to keep it to yourself. And on a more pragmatic note, how would this even work. Do the people who designed and built my home have the right to come in and tell me I can't put up certain wall papers, or furniture layouts because they don't like it? Do the people who designed and made my furniture also have a right to dictate how it's used? What happens if their dictates contradict the architects? And if the answer to that is that those people aren't artists, who gets to draw that line between designer and artist?
@@Albinojackrussel I specifically referenced droit moral and CAPA. Your examples of architecture and furniture do not apply. We are talking about fine art. Please read up on the topic I mentioned before making strawmen arguments.
@@Albinojackrussel 🙄 I specifically referenced laws that are on the books. That would lawmakers making those decisions. I made a comment referencing that. You, uninformed, just pulled random hypotheticals out of thin air which did not apply and got pissed when I called you out on it, then launched into ad hominems. Seriously? Grow up.
@@WillemPenn if you're specifically only referencing laws, and any reference to anything outside those laws is unacceptable to you, I have to ask... why are you referencing laws that aren't the relevant laws to the case in the video.
Imagine it’s a cold winter, and you’re freezing trying to get to your car after leaving work, only to now have to walk even further because some fucking artist just put a massive wall in the middle of the plaza. Art can make you uncomfortable, but people need to be in positions where they can both interact or ignore the piece. Don’t ruin people’s days by cutting off such a nice view.
Actually saw his work in person inside Toronto airport but never knew the artist! Recognised his style when you showed the curved works 😮 the art in Toronto airport is really immersive, when you walk inside your voice echoes and gets amplified, kinda scary 😬
Thank you! Jesus I hate when "art" is "good" because of some context/backstory. Like Nelson Mandela's art, people were talking about how amazing it was a few years ago, it's not good art but I'd say it has historical value sure.
So the government commissioned him, whose idea to make that metal slab and put it in front of the building? Was it the government or was it his choice? Also oxidized iron were basically rust right? It could give someone tetanus tho :"D don't get me wrong, the curved arts looks so cool from above, but is it need to be rusty? :'D
Also didn't he make that big steel wall because he wanted people to take notice of their surroundings more. Since it's placed around an office building and he noticed people were only busy with their work and phones but not take time to look around them
i thot his art killed someone or hert them. one of the round ones fell i think..... there was video of it i thot.... it was a cashinary tall to make shere your art is safe for the puplike
The thought that public art should challenge people and be provoking is pretentious and anti social. Public art that is paid for by tax payers money should be considered beautiful and add to the enjoyment of the public space. This guy is just a con man. I don't understand who okayed that first sculpture.
To me this isn’t art at all, atleast not the straight one. What’s artistic about it? Other than a possible meaning of “one side and another” (government vs. civilians). I think uncomfortable art is perfectly fine, alof people are uncomfortable with taxidermies for example or skeletons, but that’s art and takes ALOT of craftmanship. I’m not one to decide what’s art and what is not, hence the use of “To me” but people really don’t appreciate the talented- it takes hours to make and years to learn - artists enough.
Imo people shouldn't treat art as being anything inherently especial, as in, I do agree that these sculptures are art, just very bad and uninteresting art. I could grab an a4 paper and draw a stickfigure, that is art, however, it does not make it inherently worth of anyone's time, attention or money, just because something is art it doesn't mean it's deserving of special treatment, I think it must stand up on it's own
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What people dont realize about his first piece is that it blocked a lot of people from viewing the fountain. Tons of people in miserable jobs having their one highlight of the day looking to their side to see that fountain. Then, it’s gone. Yes, art can make you uncomfortable, but when people have little comfort and you take that from them, you are just doing harm. Always keep in mind the consent of your viewers and think twice if you are preventing another piece of art from being appreciated.
Guess he should've made it perpendicular to the fountain
agreed
What a fuckin garbage not art dang it
Ok but who decided to put an huge, dark sculpture in the middle of a perfectly nice park or plaza? Like, regardless of the art of it it's obstructing the view and making it darker. Governments need to understand that arts need to be appropriate for the space you are putting it in and the people who will see it. A park or plaza is where you put art that compliments the landscape, mostly commemorative pieces related to that spot. Putting something jarring there to make a statement won't make any statement cause people won't stop to reflect on it when the want to take a nice walk and they see a slab of dark metal in the middle of the street.
The curves are cool but they’re dynamic and also displayed better. A single black panel of steel in the middle of a park is basically just putting up an unnecessary wall.
Sometimes, I feel like art is just a lot of rich people bs.
Almost all artists aren’t rich in the slightest. Art should be enjoyed by those who enjoyed it and those who created it. You don’t have to like it, but you shouldn’t down play it
well the reason why art exists is because of the rich (renaissance noble elite would sponsor artists to display how charitable they are, and to help benefit the economy) so the more eccentric the better
@@LillyLite ….that’s literally not even true 😭 we were making cave paintings bro
@@LillyLite u saying thats the reason art exists is crazy😅
@@LillyLite….art has existed since humans evolved, before money or socioeconomic classes were even concepts. wtf are you on?
Ive heard he was a pretty crazy guy too. There is this one sculpture on my campus shaped like ( ) and after it was installed the band played inside and made this horrible sound, and he loved it because it was so bad.
His art or the sound?
Something we discussed in my art history class was how the difference in interaction between a person in the curves creates a feeling. You feel enclosed and pressured when inside them and they create an imposing maze from the outside. The line doesn't have these same qualities which is why it is harder to defend as art in a public space. It lacks interaction.
I love these sculptures. I went to Storm King in college. When you walk through the spirals, you feel kind of nauseous because the ceiling space gets wider as the floor space gets smaller... and then it alternates. I still remember how unsettling you feel as you walk through it. So cool! RIP Mr. Serra.
This unlocked a memory. I swear it might have been some of his peices but I remember as a kid being at a museum and eventually getting down to a huge warehouse space with these large metal walls to wander around. Wish I could remember which gallery it was.
Me too!!! Are you from california because I have this same memory
LA county museum of art has one
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Too late... i found them @@applejuice7648
Wait me too! But I'm European lol
I dont rhink the lack of curves was the peoblem ppl had with the first one, the art seems to cut a corner plaza diagonally and obstructs like half of the ways to aproach the building from the corner, the most highly trafficked area. Oh, and it blocks the fountain from the building 😂
So lovely to finally understand where these come from! I run into these so often but they never have description nearby
Don’t be scared to walk through them y’all. I don’t think they can fall! Very well constructed and safe feeling when inside. I’ve seen the curves in Spain and California.
The propose of this man's art was to make other people's lives harder
I grew up in Pittsburgh, went to the Carnegie Museum all the time, and when I was a kid in the 80s a Serra sculpture was installed out front, near the entrance. A big 40-foot tower made of leaning panels of thick COR-TEN steel, a tall kind of V shape. Quite a monolith. Then as an adult I moved to Seattle, and while living there, the Olympic Sculpture Park was conceived and built, and they installed a massive Serra sculpture with five matching pieces, undulating walls with S-curves. Incredible to be around. He was special, had unique vision
How did he sculpt them?? They're beautiful ❤
They are giant steel plates that he curved
@@theartrevivalI think the question is more HOW he did this
@@papitasloup2119 Big machinery 😊
@@theartrevivalhahahaha what the fuck no shit
@@papitasloup2119He curved them
I actually like the steel outside the federal building. Most people don't understand that there's a functional purpose to it. That's sad.😢
Yeah, he was just a sk8er boy and he just wanted to sk8
what is the purpose?? im genuinely asking bcs to me it just looks like a blockade in the middle of public space?
is it pretty? sure but it's mostly very inconvenient
What purpose was it serving?
the only purpose its serving is to block paths and light. its not only ugly but also useless and annoying.
I like it aesthetically but it didn't really have a functional purpose - one of the more legit reasons the people there wanted it down is because it cut across the main walking path through the plaza and women felt unsafe having to go all the way around it at night. It was sort of antifunctional in the end.
We stopped in Bilbao, Spain for a few hours and I had the pleasure of seeing ‘The Matter of Time’ exhibit, which is that big room full of those spirals and sheets. It was so cool because you really don’t understand the pure size of it till your walking through one, the walls rising up above you. I could have roamed on it for hours. The straight ones were fun too because they had the coolest effect of amplifying your voice. It was magical
Where I went to college they had a piece of his work, I was always afraid the tilted wall would fall on me when i walked by it and I tried to avoid them as a result
I could understand why people didn't like the first one, but I love the curves!! I hope to see them sometime
My high school choir went to the Guggenheim in Bilbao and saw one of his installations. We all lined up and sang inside, it sounded so dope. Cool to learn more about him!
His sculptures are incredible. I had the opportunity to experience one of his installations at Dia Beacon in Poughkeepsie, NY- absolutely incredible and still remains to be one of my favorite memories of a contemporary art piece.
They are soooo fun to run through!!! When I was a kid we used to go to the Guggeinheim musseum and me and my cousins used to play hide and seek in them 🖤
he put an installation at the fort worth modern art museum and it’s one of my favorite pieces the way sound echos off the steel is so encapsulating
rip
Omgggg he has a few installments at one of my favorite Museums i love his pieces wow rip
Rest In Peace
I went inside one of his pieces in Dallas about 10 years ago, I really liked it
He one day was like "people are ready for curves" and damn if that isn't inspirational
As a welder this is absolutely astonishing and the curves with that size of metal just wow
I mean, imagine paying someone for an art piece and just getting a piece of steel. Tf? Anyone could have done that. Great story thought, Def interesting art
Working in shipyards, I can already smell these artworks. 😂
I mean the flat one is literally just a rich persons wall in a place where it didn't need to be. Not to mention it blocked views for the locals there.
The curves are a space in and of themselves but the wall never was, it's just straight metal. It's not a space or induces anything outside of being placed in a terrible ass spot. I feel like there could've been a better set up for it than there.
RIP Richard your work is incredible I’m glad I’ve been able to experience it. I don’t relate to what to you’re saying about his work I have really enjoyed it in person
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The first one was just an awkward wall while the second is an interesting room.
I saw his work on Bilbao and will never forget it
In my opinion, a steel wall is incredibly unappealing in an already ugly ass city to be honest. The wall just didn’t work with the space either, there was nothing dynamic or even remotely interesting about it to even think it added to the visual. The curves is where the pieces become interesting and engaging. Like you want to investigate the curved sculptures and interact with them.
Saw some of his work at the Guggenheim (I think??) and it was magical. Felt completely transported when you walked through it, like you were in a natural formed ravine for something then poof your back in a museum! Loved it!
Richard Serra created Wright’s Triangle on the campus of WWU in 1979/80! Beautiful piece; it helps the flow of foot traffic on a busy part of campus, and when classes are in session you can hide inside the triangle as crowds of students pass by🙂 rest in peace
Before he switched to curves I guess! haha
so cool!! I learned about this guy in my art class
Art should can be pleasing and pretty 😅
A broken clock can be Correct twice.
This includes the government and this artist.
I remember going to a museum as a kid that had one of the sculptures that appeared in the photo, I remember running throw there as a kid
I love these videos this is the first time once come up that I've seen in person
“‘We commissioned you to do it. We can do whatever we want.’ Fair.”
Not a great way to look at it as an artist advocate. You might want to look at droit moral in France or CAPA in California for example. Many places around the world believe that it doesn’t matter who paid for or commissioned the work - that the artist still has a moral right to the work s/he created.
To some extent, yeah, but the artist doesn't have a moral right to blockade a huge public space with that art.
As a general rule I lean more towards the view that if you're going to send something out into the world, then you need to be ready for the world to interact with it in ways you don't like. The whole point of sending it into the world is to see how the world responds. If you want to keep complete control over art and it's responses, then you've got to keep it to yourself.
And on a more pragmatic note, how would this even work. Do the people who designed and built my home have the right to come in and tell me I can't put up certain wall papers, or furniture layouts because they don't like it? Do the people who designed and made my furniture also have a right to dictate how it's used? What happens if their dictates contradict the architects? And if the answer to that is that those people aren't artists, who gets to draw that line between designer and artist?
@@Albinojackrussel I specifically referenced droit moral and CAPA. Your examples of architecture and furniture do not apply. We are talking about fine art. Please read up on the topic I mentioned before making strawmen arguments.
@@WillemPenn I guess that answers the question of who gets to draw the line on what is and isn't art. You.
@@Albinojackrussel 🙄 I specifically referenced laws that are on the books. That would lawmakers making those decisions. I made a comment referencing that. You, uninformed, just pulled random hypotheticals out of thin air which did not apply and got pissed when I called you out on it, then launched into ad hominems. Seriously? Grow up.
@@WillemPenn if you're specifically only referencing laws, and any reference to anything outside those laws is unacceptable to you, I have to ask... why are you referencing laws that aren't the relevant laws to the case in the video.
That “art” in New York was an eye sore. Not surprised people hated it lol
Who sees a steel wall and thinks... Yes yes very haunting
Pearson International Airport has an installation of his.
When you don't think the function of art is to be pleasing, it makes things very challenging I've found. But I agree with him. RIP o7
Im still not ready for large long meaningless barriers in the middle of walkable space
Imagine being able to bend metal all day and muse about the inner discomfort of mankind instead of having to slave away for your livelihood.
It sounds like the government just did some art of their own. Why can't removing a sculpture also be seen as art?
How long did it take him to make them???
They used reverse psychology with the first one. He was probably proving a psyop for the gov. That's why he said they were ready for curves now
Imagine it’s a cold winter, and you’re freezing trying to get to your car after leaving work, only to now have to walk even further because some fucking artist just put a massive wall in the middle of the plaza. Art can make you uncomfortable, but people need to be in positions where they can both interact or ignore the piece. Don’t ruin people’s days by cutting off such a nice view.
Actually saw his work in person inside Toronto airport but never knew the artist! Recognised his style when you showed the curved works 😮 the art in Toronto airport is really immersive, when you walk inside your voice echoes and gets amplified, kinda scary 😬
Man i think I'm gonna become an artist just to troll the elite
Interesting, this feels like the polar opposite Pierre Auguste-Renoir
Ive walked inside that sculpture. Its in la
What's the process like?
that's not art... that's literally steel... the us literally couldn't recognize real art if it slapped them across the face...
How? Ive only seen that kind of work done in huge factories.
Walls bad
Maze cool
😂😂😂😂
People were ready for curves but not straight, how ironic lmao
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If you need the "backstory" to "understand" art, it is not good art
Thank you! Jesus I hate when "art" is "good" because of some context/backstory. Like Nelson Mandela's art, people were talking about how amazing it was a few years ago, it's not good art but I'd say it has historical value sure.
Why are people mad abt a metal wall?
He dies on my birthday😢
I want to lose myself in here
So the government commissioned him, whose idea to make that metal slab and put it in front of the building? Was it the government or was it his choice?
Also oxidized iron were basically rust right? It could give someone tetanus tho :"D don't get me wrong, the curved arts looks so cool from above, but is it need to be rusty? :'D
That isn't art, its just another hack making fools out of people who dont understand art.
So basically rusty walls?
I dont get it. I mean it looks cool but is there a meaning to it? Not trying to hate, I'm genuinely confused.
Also didn't he make that big steel wall because he wanted people to take notice of their surroundings more. Since it's placed around an office building and he noticed people were only busy with their work and phones but not take time to look around them
"art is not meant to be pleasing" take your ideas elsewhere, sir.
i thot his art killed someone or hert them. one of the round ones fell i think..... there was video of it i thot.... it was a cashinary tall to make shere your art is safe for the puplike
Consent of viewers how does that look like??
The thought that public art should challenge people and be provoking is pretentious and anti social. Public art that is paid for by tax payers money should be considered beautiful and add to the enjoyment of the public space. This guy is just a con man. I don't understand who okayed that first sculpture.
no they literally could, it's a problem
They are circles, calm down
The first one is horrid but i lime the others
To me this isn’t art at all, atleast not the straight one. What’s artistic about it? Other than a possible meaning of “one side and another” (government vs. civilians). I think uncomfortable art is perfectly fine, alof people are uncomfortable with taxidermies for example or skeletons, but that’s art and takes ALOT of craftmanship.
I’m not one to decide what’s art and what is not, hence the use of “To me” but people really don’t appreciate the talented- it takes hours to make and years to learn - artists enough.
Imo people shouldn't treat art as being anything inherently especial, as in, I do agree that these sculptures are art, just very bad and uninteresting art.
I could grab an a4 paper and draw a stickfigure, that is art, however, it does not make it inherently worth of anyone's time, attention or money, just because something is art it doesn't mean it's deserving of special treatment, I think it must stand up on it's own
This is horrible. Genuinely.
:| the first one is just bad, there are plenty of ways to do art that’s purposefully unpleasant or with other intentions that pleasing the audience.
You call this crap art.
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In other words, he was cringe.
No, it's just really ugly.
Modern art is stupid
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