New Zealand pundits react to Roger Tuivasa-Sheck leaving Rugby Union | The Breakdown
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- The Breakdown rugby show is back with Mils Muliaina, John Kirwan and Jeff Wilson, hosted by Kirstie Stanway as they discuss the disappointing news that Roger Tuivasa-Sheck will no longer be playing in rugby union. #TheBreakdown
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He is a winger. Great footwork. Excellent finishing. 12 put too much pressure on him to get the ball out wide. Which doesn't come naturally to his game apart from offloading.
But he got left behind by Fainganuku who is criticised as having not quite enough top end speed for an international winger. What it really comes down to is, like Marshall, he came over too late, and did not get the time to be grounded at lower grades. I think he missed all of his first season with Auckland due to covid disruptions to the comp, which was unfortunate. Also does not have the kicking game to go with Fullback, which probably is his best position in most other ways. That is also a weakness to a lesser extent at 2nd five, and also for a winger who has to cover fullback at times. Combination of issues. Not saying he should not have played league, but if he had stayed with rugby right through he would have developed that kicking game. Nonu certainly did, he could not kick at the start.
@@tonylittle3508 mounga got left behind by ekuasi in the weekend it doesn’t mean ekuasi is quicker
Doesn’t having the kicking game too play winger
Is Roger injured at the moment?
@@KatharineShaw-z8u no just not good enough to maintain a spot at the blues or all blacks
Hands down the best facial expressions in the Rugby world, Muliaina. Those thumbnails are absolute gold every - single - time.
He got them injections lol
NZs ridiculous obsession with players being able to play more than one position is a bigger problem in my opinion. Why did we stop picking specialists? Look at all the best teams right now and they all pick specialists. We’re so hung up on first fives being able to cover fullback and midfielders that can cover outside backs and back rowers that can cover ever back row position and even lock, like???? Pick players in their positions and stop mucking around! Like why is Ardie still playing 8??? He’s too small bro, he gets dwarfed when he comes up against players like Valetini, Aldritt and Wiese. But he’s the best 7 in NZ by a mile and we don’t play him there. Can’t wait for next year man, this 4 year circus is finally going to be over.
Due to the fact that you can play in so many games with 14 or 13 man with the game new rule so your players players playing out of there comfort places.
Ardi doesn't get dwarfed. He's more powerful than all of them.
@@Tom_McMurtry leg drive in the contact? Yea he’s powerful at that. Getting over the ball? Yes he’s powerful. But being physical on defence and making meters when he isn’t running the ball off pick and go is where he gets dwarfed. He’s a world class number 7, he’s just too small for an international 8 though.
@@kainoizking Ardie is playing no 8 in almost every games if not all for the Hurricanes. Anyway, either playing him at 8 or leave him at bench. He is 100% the impact player you want in your squad. Can cover 6, 7 and 8 as well. Personally I leave him on the bench if there are any other 8s specialist playing better than him at the moment which sadly no one. Sotutu is good but never commanding enough, Sowakula is great but he not consistently played 8 for the Chiefs. Callum Grace is on form but he doesn't have the experience to start in big games.
@@theruckinmaul1460 as tough as that pill would be to swallow, you’re probably right. Although he is individually brilliant, the best back rows are about the balance across the three positions, not about how good each individual is even though obviously that is important too. Cullen Grace is the next AB number 8 in my opinion. Hugely abrasive, plenty of room left to fill out, great lineout ability taking some pressure off Sam and Brodie, great rugby IQ etc… he just needs to stay healthy.
He picked up the intracacies of rugby quickly. Factored his skill to align with those around him and defended like a trooper. Not enough game time
The bigger issue in all blacks rugby is we constantly ask players to play outside of the position they have spent most of their life playing and expect to be worldbeaters against teams who dont do that
SBW went to Toulon first followed by Crusaders and eventually Chiefs so he did more of an apprenticeship than anyone, giving himself the best opportunity to succeed although to be honest he probably would of anyway but he went about it the right way where as RTS not so much
Nice, thanks, it's hard to remember SBW's path
I agree, no matter how exceptional a League player you cannot expect them to switch code overnight without the appropriate game time and support, it seems desperate to do that so close to a World Cup. It also send a signal to other Union players that they are not good enough. I see why Ian Foster and Eddie Jones do it but it is not only a gamble, it is a cheap fix. How can you convince your players that your team is more important than the individual after that? Added to the amount of pressure you put on that League player to deliver because everybody's told he is the next SBW or Folau. You raise people's expectations, you better deliver. And Tuisava-sheck will never return to Union so it is time and resources wasted. Are there really no capable number 12 in the whole of New Zealand rugby union? I would doubt so unless they are all injured.
Played Canterbury NPC too
RTS played pretty well for an ex league player that's past his best 🤷♂️
Sonny was alot younger then Roger when he left to union and had alot more time to learn, and didn't have to contend with this thing called covid that rog had to deal with.
Lol JK dodging the failed Benji Marshall attempt when Goldie pulled him up about it 😂
Never forget that shit show that he created at the Blues!
hahahaha too right bro
Should've started him on the wing to see him develop. I agree with Jeff Wilson.
Would’ve loved to see RTS have 1 game at fullback.
There may be an opening in the Auckland NPC team later this year.
@@iallso1 Don't think he will be playing though.
London England via Jamaica 🇯🇲 here!! As a big ABs fan:: All the best RTS. Making the ABs squad is not a given. SBW was X factor class.
SBW is rugby’s unicorn. Tough ask for others to repeat his cross code success
The guy did it the right way, played in France…made his way and played NPC, then the Crusaders and finally the Chiefs…he did a full apprenticeship before getting a look in for the ABs
@@michaelkonelio7452 He actually played the bare minimum amount of rugby games to get into the All Blacks squad. That's why there was so much noise when he arrived and made the team.
Remembered the interview SBW did on this show actually, when he came across, he didn’t know anything about Union. Once he went through the school of ‘hard knocks’ and got to grips with RU, he loved it. He really deserved been a dual code International with everything else he’s archived.
@@Tron_Funkin_Blow no he didn’t, like I said..he spent a year in France, then played in the NPC squad then played for the Crusaders. That’s not bare minimum in comparison to Benji or Rodger…the whole noise was because of his past leaving the bulldogs and all eyes were on him at the time. Let’s not forget he was a successful convert as he won championships in Super Rugby, was unlucky that at the time he was competing for a starting spot against possibly the greatest AB centre combination in Nonu and Smith where he would have been a starting centre in any other country. He was a freak in his prime.
@@michaelkonelio7452 I don't even think he played an entire season at Toulon, then he went to Canterbury and played 3 games so he could qualify for the All blacks.
Ma'a was phenomenal at 14 when he got pushed out wide and off 11. He was always a natural 12 and became the best in that position. I think RTS would've been very good at 12, but ridiculous to think he could find his groove within 1 year.
When I hear a former All Blacks saying "I think he will win us the World Cup" talking about one player, that's when I understand maybe the ABs are not quite the tight unit they once were. There are lot more talks about individuals than there is about gameplan and how these individuals fit in. I hear John Kirwan "here is the key, this is your team" but did it ever happen for the ABs? The strength of the All Blacks has always been that whoever comes into the fore - playmaker included - with their own specific qualities this would not disturb the gameplan. That's what was so impressive about the ABs, this continuity, perfection and speed of execution. And Ireland is doing that now, it is not an improvising force, it is a well oiled machine based on Leinster. When Stade Rochelais found the crack, there was no capacity to improvise. So does it mean you leave it to your bench and impact players or does it mean your team should have a plan B and the nature of your bench should accommodate that plan? ie these are not your keys, you borrow that Ferrari but you never owns it. During the successful years of the All Backs, the Crusaders were that well oiled machine and the Hurricanes, Chiefs and Highlanders were almost like plan B. Carter was not improvising outside patterns, he would follow exactly what Merthens was doing before him only with his own skills. The ABs were a copy of the Crusaders. But there was little improvisation, the last All Blacks 10 I have seen playing outside pattern was Carlos Spencer and it probably cost him the 10 jersey at the end. But that's not the ABs footprint, so I am very curious to see the transition between these three playmakers and whether the tactical approach will change from the last northern tour. Now, would Galthie swipe Jalibert for McKenzie? I don't think he would and I would not either.
This is such a great take that I never even considered. Every great international team if modelled off a goof club team. Even as an Aussie when we were somewhat competitive it came off a halfway decent reds side. Good rugby knowledge
Rugby union needs TLC its so needed there's to many stars on set and not enough unity kotahitanga starts with players understanding and respecting the value of being apart of a team and not taking 1 for the team to boost your ego. All Black's are not as spirited as a team as they once were in the 90s early 2000s its very sad and somewhat damaging to the ABs brand as it puts more added pressure on the ABS to do greater when in actuality they haven't been doing as good Rugby Union is in decline me thinks there's bn a huge shift in our tradition and whenua that people will rather prospect in other popular fast growing sports teams that will offer greater value and opportunity overseas, I've noticed we have more casual sports fans taking up league and MMA here so something more engaging there for them elsewhere it really comes down to the approach top down bottom up there needs to be a change in the long term. I miss the old All Black's from 95 to 2007. Ka aroha.
Perhaps the more pertinent questions is, Did RTS go to the wrong team and would his switch been more sucessful had he gone to the Crusaders?
My biggest issue with ABS at the moment is the front rowers. There is where we will get battered a good one. Other than Samisoni we have no players. Additionally David Havili and jack Goodhue struggle a lot at 12
Lomax is having an outstanding season. So is Degroot. Aumua is looking great. Young props coming up in Williams, Newell and Numia. What do you mean no players? 😂
Agreed front row have been struggling a bit the last 2 seasons. Not so confident at scrum time, especially in the clutch. All for blooding Lomax he’s a beast.
I think the ABs have struggled with the centre’s combination…ever since Nonu and Smith left
@@kainoizking against Ireland and France those players wont help us
@@kainoizking spot on.
How long did it take for SBW to get there though? He played in Europe before coming to NZ and his coach was Umaga. I think that RTS has all the potential in the world, but I agree with the statement that he needed more game time and to make the changeover after the previous world cup to give himself 4 years
They should’ve played RTS in the NZ Sevens team! It might’ve helped in his development to AB’s Rugby!👌🏽👍😉
RTS would’ve and was meant to have some NPC rugby under his belt when he first started but Auckland covid situation stopped him from playing
True
On another note New Zealand rugby should be looking at decent forwards coming through, I hope they give players like Tamaiti Williams etc more of a chance for example.
With the amount of talent and depth in NZ rugby, it was a tough ask for him in the first place. And theres absolutely no shame that he couldn't make it work like he wanted. He is a great talent but i think he needed a couple more years of super rugby if he wanted to make next wc squad
Agree with Jeff. RTS should have been prioritised consistent game time
These guys prattle on about the nz backline so much but the majority of the issues NZ rugby has is that the forwards are failing to generate consistent front foot ball. Doesn't matter who's playing no.10 or fullback at rwc if the forwards are getting steamrolled
couldnt agree more. Other than Samisoni, there is no player that can match what other players in the world can offer
They are because if you listened this story is about RTC not All black forwards
@@davidfife-nm7uy Yeah, but sadly you can't listen to other forwards story cause there aren't talk about.
Agree not enough game time at all
RTS didn't have time on his side. He should have made the move to union 5 or 6 years ago.
Yeah even a year before he actually decided would have made the world of difference
I'm glad he didn't and glad he's going back to the better version of the game
Back to the greatest game of all 😊
If you have to keep saying it's the greatest game of all, it probably isn't the greatest game of all 😂 Maybe stop losing to AFL before trying to compete with a major sport like Rugby.
@@colejones6312
But it is, it just is, whether I keep saying it or not it's still the greatest game of all.
AFL phhhleeease, the only sport where you get a point for missing.
And rugby is so major that NOS just rejected their big $ offer to stay in Rugby League, why?
Because Rugby league is the greatest game of all and Rugby is slowly and painfully dying
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Can't be the greatest game of all when you're literally losing to AFL in your own backyard 💀
He's going back because he's not good enough for Rugby 😂Rugby is one of the biggest sports on Earth while League can't even grow in other Australian states let alone other countries. Embarrassing.
@@colejones6312
Eddy Jones can't recruit any Rugby players through the Rugby pathways because they're not strong enough so he has to look at Rugby League players because the pathways are far superior, Rugby is dead in Australia and dying elsewhere, nobody cares about it it's boring AF 😴
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 This doesn't even make any sense 😂 Rugby simply reclaims talent league stole from them. Go and look at all your players. Probably at least half of them played real Rugby. If league talent was so strong they'd stop poaching Rugby talent in the first place. Again, Rugby isn't dying anywhere, it's growing actually, meanwhile the NRL can't even grow the game outside QLD/NSW 😂 Calling Rugby boring meanwhile league is 4 passes, kick, 4 passes, kick, 4 passes kick. Not a real sport 👍
More game time as an allblack , more of a distraction for opposition teams in the line up . I would have trained him as a blind side flanker. Because of his speed , upper body strength and his read for the rugby game . Tuavasa shek has a beautiful inside game with his step and speed and can clock anyone. When give the chance … i really hope he make the world cup squad .
The only league guy that made it was Brad Thorne, SBW nearly made it great sub, but most of them weren't good enough sadly. The warriors will welcome him back.
Yep….
Put the facts on the table first:
1. SBW = Off-load FREAK !!! His strength = Centre who destroys and and sucks in 2 tacklers and still off-loads.
2. Nonu = Another FREAK !!! Low-centre of Gravity + Strength and acceleration and speed. Game winner that try in RWC final vs Aus solo by him epitomizes his contribution.
RTS not like those 2 at all. He has amazing footwork but is not a physical beast so should not be centre. But if the AB's already have incredible talent in the Wings and Full-Back... = He has not place in Rugby Union ABs. It's that simple.
Irrepective, of the Union perspective, I've been watching the Warriors this season in the NRL: They've been brilliant and more entertaining and awesome to watch than ALL the super league teams in Union. League has so many good attributes especially NRL and Warriors have such a bright future imho: For RTS, his best bet is to light up using his footwork in League where there's more space and opportunity for him to do so. He'll now have a battle to get a starting place!
As to AB's at WC: It's the pack that will make or break them. And right now, SA, France, Ireland all have superior packs...
Good call bro. I think alb is passed it now. Rts would have been great abd given a shot n more games
This ain't a bloody league video only a couple of states in Australia and PNG care about league as for the NH sides they always choke at world cups and SA so called bomb squad hasnt helped them win any SH titles since 2019 very poor
Wow ! A union / league conversation that doesn't deteriorate into cheap shots at the other code. Aussies and Poms need to watch this and see how you can enjoy and respect both codes. 😊
Don't drag the poms into it. They're rugby through and through and most of them barely know league even exists. It's only in QLD/NSW where league has a voice. Even the rest of Australia barely knows what league is.
@@colejones6312 bro you literally just did what op said
@@Jamie-ye7fu Rugby and League aren't engaging in petty fighting in England like in Australia. It's got nothing to do with me lad.
@@colejones6312 You don't know England then lad. Lancashire and Yorkshire are more of a RL heartland than Sydney is.
@@Jamie-ye7fu Again, nothing to do with anything here. There is no beef between SL/Premiership Rugby like there is the NRL/SR. Everyone else is just minding their business and enjoying what they enjoy. Also stop liking your own comments, it's weird.
Harder to go from Union to League than the other way round. Just ask Sir John. Here's the kicker, there are so many League players in the NRL who were once Australian Schoolboys Union players. Wally Lewis would not have made the Wallabies through his era; yet was a member of what is regarded as the greatest Schoolboy side ie 77-78, with the Ella's, Michael OÇonnor, Michael Hawker et al.
Suali, crighton, Parramatta centre, the south Sydney captain all played school boy rugby
Its different in australia because most of those 'schoolboys' played league as kids but went to private rugby playing schools. Suaali'i before he was a rugby schoolboy star came up as a kid playing for glenmore park brumbies a famed penrith panthers junior breeding ground. Angus Crichton, Will Penisini, Cameron Murray all played league first.
Damian McKenzie won't start for South Africa. We don't easily select players who can't defend. I suspect that is the reason why he doesn't start for the All Blacks either.
Agree, no Crusaders vs South Africa because they can't defend.
Better attacker than RM
10's are going to get run over by big forwards on occasion that is just basic physics but yeah DM size is not an asset, that is definitely why he no longer plays fullback for the AB's as his lack of height was an issue under the high-ball.
I suspect his lack of starts for the AB's at 10 is more to do with RM & BB being ranked ahead of him & the time he has spent playing in Japan which made him ineligible for AB selection rather than perceived defensive frailties.
All 3 of them aren't that good at defending. The one concern I have at the moment is that Mo'unga never performs vs the good international teams, Ireland, France, England, had one good game vs SA. His record is 4 wins, 5 losses and 2 draws vs those 4 teams who are going to be our main competition at the WC.
Couldn’t believe he said that. He doesn’t start for Ireland, he doesn’t start for Scotland, probably doesn’t start for France and maybe but not definitely for England. Some of those kiwis are so arrogant lol
JK is right, I feel, re the No 10. D Mac as a reserve is 😎. RM needs this RWC to do his thing for the team.
So hard to put rog on the wing for blues because you already have 2 all black wingers at blues. So hes in a tough spot. If i were him and i still wanted to be on that plane to the cup id ask to play on the wing for rest of year just to show some versatility
I reckon RTS would have had a better chance if he had switched over during or right after the last World Cup and playing him on the wing or outside center would have seen the best out of him. At the end it was just wrong timing for even a class player like him
Idk why they don't put him as an outside Centre, his big enough, and got the speed and footwork
@@jxswu3224 I know right. He also should’ve signed with either the Highlanders or Canes
Once again JK is taking rubbish, comparing RTS to SBW. He seems to forget that SBW played 33 games for Toulon, 7 for Canterbury, and 15 super rugby games for the Crusaders before going to the Chiefs. He was familiar with the code and the role before playing super rugby.
RTS has never really looked like an AB, and there would need to be a large number of injuries for him need a ticket to France this year.
John Kirwan was the worst coach the Blues ever had with a 35% winning record I think. Dont want to be hard on RTS but really he is far better at league than union.
Sonny Bill and Israel Folau are used as the bench mark for code crossers. Of the two the, Sonny Bill's path was the better approach - time spent at Toulon, playing at a lower intensity and at Full Back, he had time to learn. Tossing guys in the deep end to force duel code super stardom is not right.
I wouldn't include IF with the same breath as SBW. IF was useful in open space; however profoundly one-dimensional, straight up 'gutless' in tackling or getting into a ruck, profoundly fragile in defence, and self-absorbed. Hang on.....that sounds like Campese???
@@petefrench4198 Izzy was a world class player. Excellent under the high ball, great counter attacker, physical and with a nose for the try line...his stats bear witness!
If a NZ player went to Toulon now, it would be a higher standard than Super Rugby. Agree on Izzy. David Pocock said Izzy was the most talented rugby player he ever played with.
@@petefrench4198IF’s playing ability far surpasses SBW when it comes to in game production.
*J.K* is always on point! I agree *DMaC* is the ultimate *22, 23* off the bench when defense tire. He's the perfect guy and size to attack through the rucks amongst the big tired props, whether 10 or 15.
But 10 isnt for Mounga thats for sure.
@Kurosaki Ichigo nah it is
@@MeanAzz_13 it is for BB / DMac.
Mounga is the best at SR but choked in Test.
You talking about John Kirwan, the guy who head hunted, persuaded & signed an unfit Benji Marshall to the Blues then proceeded to throw him to the wolves. Great player JK, one of the best. His name took him far & huge respect for his work in mental health. As a coach, club his limit but there's no money in that. As an analyst, loud, opinionated & colourful. Re on point, not even close imo. RTS should've started on the wing 🙏🏽
@Dom McCarthy I was referring to J.K talking about DMaC, he's the perfect impact player
I was watching the chiefs play drua
Still defence is terrible..this is the state of newzealand rugby...still not get it ..defence win matches...knock on effect early flight home for allblacks ?
The only problem here is they are not picking him. Too much talk on him as a league player but forget he was a union player first. Awesome player in both codes and one the All Blacks are missing out on let alone the fans.
not a mention of will jordan comin back which he should be at fullback
14 would’ve been his most natural initial fit
I agree
Tuivasa should play for Manu Samoa
Long story short, rugby Union requires more skill than league.
Haha I paused the video and told my wife that Riccitelli was going to play for Italy, then I unpaused it and 😂
Poor rugby union… they’re scraping from the barrel getting NRL playees
RTS was put in the wrong position something Leon Mcdonald is good at doing lol I would have tried playing Caleb Clarke at 12 and Roger on the wing. WC wingers should be Will Jordan and Reiko Ioane. Ioane plays best on the wing for abs
Shouldve played rts at 13. That footwork in space. Reiko is too up and down. U know RTS would be solid every game and outside Jordi. Damn
Rugby UNION is as exciting as watching paint dry..... no wonder the man returned to the top game.... RUGBY LEAGUE. The game of champions.
Yet he was too slow, too small and had trouble tackling. Caught out of position many times and lack foresight.
12 is a specialist.
Not a code changer so, winger.
But didn't play enough. RTS
Kirwin is the last person to talk about who plays where. Everyone just thinks a nrl player is a centre like sonny bill. With the super rugby game play a lot of people look good until you play a team that puts pressure on you. Jeff is right we need specialist JK is just in his own world hence why the blues we’re so shit with him
Sbw worked out perfectly because he put in the ground work in france
Just have a look at Semi Radradra. He jumped from league to union and still did really well. So basically it depends on a players mentality on how fast they're able to change sports
Not sure having played for the Warriors on your CV is something that qualifies you to play any oval ball sport at a high level.
Izzy Folau wasnt much of a kicker in the NRL, didn't do a bad job as 15 for Wallabies
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck leaving Rugby Union ? I didn't even know he left Rugby League .
Aye 😂
Lol there worried about rts kicking the ball at fullback but not worried about him making defensive calls and stepping up when the fly half gets tackled playing 12
I think they fumbled his position. He should have began on the W/FB and should have been not only been training with blues but should have went back to play club rugby. I think nz rugby thought he was the answer in the midfield with our troubles in midfield when laumape left
They did with RTS,what they did with SBW, brought him in based solely on his League reputation,and more or less,gave his special privileges to fast track him into the ABs. The NZR need to stop doing that shit, we have more then enough talent to turn into ABs.
SBW actually did a proper apprenticeship before making the ABs…he did time in France, came over and played NPC, Crusaders and the Chiefs. SWB started most games on the bench because unfortunately for him, the ABs had the two greatest centre combination that we have seen in Nonu and Smith…the ABs still are yet to replace them two.
Wrong though. SBW was a gun with Canterbury and his first stint in Super Rugby with the Crusaders is probably one of the best rookie player if not the best. Absolute monster in midfield with Robbie Fruean.
NMS 😊😊😊Skudder was brilliant 👏
They always go back, Sua'ali'i won’t be any different
what does "voyturi corridoio" mean? Am I even spelling it right - probably not
Matt Rodgers played Fullback
I dont get it. You guys know the game better than most. Your best AB team has Beauden on 10 and Mckensie at 15. Why dont you see that?
Honestly, just play him at Full Back. Aint rocket science is it.
When is RTS going to be fit again for the Blues? As to Roger playing fullback, does he have a kicking game which is crucial in that position?
JK doesn’t want to talk about Benji 😂😂
how can you compare sonny Bill though he played a season or 2 in france first and then another couple in nz. so apples for apples etc.
They should've put him on Wing
Sorry RTS just doesn't have that skill set to be a good rugby union player. Whether he had played NPC rugby in 2021 wouldn't have made any difference. The Blues were obligated to play him but why Foster selected him after a dozen games of super rugby is a mystery. He wasn't a stand out midfield player so maybe it was based on reputation rather than talent.
Wish him all the best for the rest of the year in rugby and if he fits into the Warriors set up next year then good for him.
Outside backs in league shouldnt play midfield Union. Kiwi coaches dont seem to grasp that. He has the skillset. The decision to play him at 12 was stupid
@@georgerichter3930 Agree exception being SBW. I think Benji Marshall played midfield for the Blues 2014 which wasn't a success. Who would Roger have replaced say on the wing or fullback for the Blues? I wish him the best in league where he is far more valuable.
@@KatharineShaw-z8u whith the exception of Caleb Clarke, all of them.
I really urge you to go and watch his videos from his roosters days coz
It just seems you know relativly little about him, and what hes capable of.
Weighing 95+kgs and running into traffick . Thats not who he is. Thats what league second rowers do. Which is why sonny bill and Ben Te'o were successfull in Union.
Almost without exception, if you play NRL footy, come to union. You should make it. But if John Kirwan, or Mike Ford or Stuart Lancaster are you coaches, its a wrap!
@@georgerichter3930 I'm not an expert on Rogers NRL career. I remember him at the Roosters on the wing and his dazzling foot work and with the Warriors as well. I prefer Roger playing league than union. Lets leave it at that buddy.
yea. id leave it there too, if i were you
i love rugby.
RTS should’ve been playing on the wing. Idc abt left or right
Jason Robinson from league played fullback. They ran the ball they won the World Cup 🤷🏾♂️
I hope more Union players move to the NRL. Its 1000000x better than super rugby these days.
Old John didnt give benji marshal a chance bt wen he did give him 10 15min benji scored.and.set up trys this at the time john was having mental issues
Imo Rodgers playing style is wing and fullback not every fullback is a great kicker, not that hard to learn how to kick. Deffs not a 12
Too small, too slow and misses too many tackles. Has no foresight for the next play and often comes out of position. Other than that, he's good for league.
perfect summary notting but facts
Teko summary go the sheck
He’s not a 12
Blues development failed him I think, winger would've been the best position for him
Jhon kawen is right he's good in the midfield
Too much kicking in the game,pick the ball up and run with it,like it was desighed to be.
You don't give him game time period...
I would have played him at 13 less leadership and still gives him time with footwork??????
I always though the 13 would of suited him more. Anyone else
Tough call by the NZRU to invest on RTS. Mission failure
Roger made a stupid move to try and become an All Black. He should’ve stayed with Samoa and help boost the team. Now he’s not going at the world cup at all. He’s not the only Oceanic islander who’s made the stupid choice, though.
Fullback easy, kicking isnt hard to improve on.. should of put him at lock? Just ruined his rugby chances by tryna make him a midfielder
Loves a yawnion chat
The codes simply aren’t the same. League is superior in every facet bar the international game
RTS should play for Samoa at the World Cup! Lol
League is the superior game with a no elitist mentality, rugby has become stale and is dying a slow death.
Yaaaaaaawn
I just think he didn’t play enough. Covid ruined his Auckland NPC campaign when he first came.
Mills...BB @ #15 🤦♂️he keeps kicking the ball away and can't goal kick to save himself, throws awesome hospital passes and looks lost of recent. Off the bench where he should be. Jordan @#15, JB inside centre not Havili Please.. Ireland have him figured out.
Good league player but not good enough to be an all black
Poor reading:
RTS is awesome in league because you have a game where quick sets/tackles leads to (1) space, (2) overload or (3) fading onto the try line and his footwork makes the margins in those try-scoring lines.
In Union, at centre you have to be a lot bigger physically to punch the gain line. That's not his game nor size. AB's are loaded on the wings and Full-Back needs a kicker and receiver more than a runner in the modern game. He does not have a place in the ABs as a consequence.
@@commentarytalk1446 had nz rugby played their hand better rts wouldn’t be leaving. Start him on the wing and get him to learn the code and slowly bring him in as mid field back up. Stupid to start him at midfield imo
🤣 I knew he wasn't going to amount to bugger all in union 🤦♂️
sbw did it right, mans played from grassroots to the top
To many politics in rugby in New Zealand. Rugby is sport and shouldn't be part of political sport minded people. This where you will not put your hand on the World Cup Silver Ware.
Roger Hesamaster-Chef
“Have you ever seen a rugby league full back kick the ball back?” Like Israel Folau wasn’t one of the best fullbacks in world rugby and league . Kirwan talking rubbish again
NZ are lucky that Union in Australia is an absolute joke. Imagine NRL players playing against the All Blacks, it'd be a slaughter. There's a reason why NRL players like RTS, Vunivalu and even Ryan fucking Cross 🤣waltz right into the Wallabies.
RTS did not have enough time.