Maurice you will love it. The Kubota line can really blow the snow far and away. When I had my BX I loved it because it saved my back and fighting with a walk behind but I got tired of it blowing back in my face. Moved to the B because of the factory cab and it is wonderful in the winter but also in the summer with that standard AC. Enjoy and thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching. You will be happy this winter for sure. I had enough of fighting with the walk behind and a slanted driveway. These things are beasts and will throw the snow 50 ft if you want to. Good luck!
This is true. Ive been tractor blowing this for 3 season now. First with a bx2370 and now with the B2650. Just when I think I've figured out the most efficient way, I end up changing it the next time. Mostly due to wind.
I can't wait myself. I don't really care for the snow much but not breaking my back or fighting with a walk behind anymore makes me get excited for the season. Thanks for subscribing!
Hi Drummin'man! Thanks for watching. Most of New England is beautiful, especially New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont. We just moved to a new home on top of a hill that has constant wind but the views are absolutely stunning. Gave the B2650 a good run this last Nor'easter we had. Lost power and everything for 18 hours. I wish I had planned my first winter video this season at the new place but the timing didn't line up. Anyhow, MB Tractor pretty much bought out all the competitors here in New Hampshire. I would say they have been good to me. The sales department seems sometimes too busy to really help out and they are slow to respond if at all. Could just be the location and salesman I deal with but after a few phone calls and emails I usually get my answers. The parts and service department has been top notch and really, after all the haggling about options and then getting that machine purchased, that is all you need to care about. I would definitely continue to do business with them. I've bought two tractors so far and they were great with me upgrading as well. Feel free to reach out if you move into the area and you have any more questions about the tractor or my experience with MB. Take care!
It will not. I leave mine outside for right now and it drives me nuts. I just park the blower and front end under an overhang off my shed. Still working on a better solution without spending much.
Beginner for B Series The B2650 is actually the tractor I am thinking about buying. What do you think of it as the time goes by that you have owned it ? As well as the snowblower ?
I absolutely love this machine. If I had one gripe about it, it would be the hydrostatic whine inside the cab. It's pretty loud however I've gotten used to it at this point. I've had it for 1.5 snow seasons and it is just a snow blowing and snow plowing beast. It will throw snow 50 feet if you want it to. The hydraulics on the blower work wonderful. Super fast chute rotation and a flick of a switch and you have a chute that does the same. I find the best combination to be a back blade and the front blower. I know a lot of people like to have the loader on for the winter months so they can move the snow piles but I really can't see why when the front blower will throw it as far as it does. You will see in my other videos that I blow the snow and then scrape with the back blade then blow any piles I've created. All this while staying nice and warm. The cab virtually feels like it isn't even there as there is so much glass that you can see very easily. The lift power on the loaded was quite an upgrade as well from my bx. I helped a neighbor out the other day that thought he needed to rent a jack hammer to break up a rock he found while making a fire pit. There were two and they were huge. I actually should have had more ballast weight as these would make the rear end come up a bit as I was driving. This was also with the back blade on. I couldn't lift them directly but the break out force was able to pop them out of the ground and then I pushed them with ease off into the woods. Don't hesitate to get this tractor! In fact I would get this over the LX model. They are basically the same tractor with the exception that the 2650 doesn't have the option for quick connect, K-connect to the front mounts and a PTO button on the dash to run it stand alone if you were to be chipping wood off the rear or something. I bet they will be blowing whatever inventory they have out on these to make room for the LX model. Good Luck! Sorry for the long winded response.
Do you do the neighbours driveways? Mine on both sides of me asked me to do there’s, I told them to fuck off. Their dog shits all over my lawn and I asked them to deal with that last summer and they just said dogs will be dogs...I hate them. The guy on the other side says I’m obligated to do his because I’m the only one on the street with a tractor. WTF?? Sometimes it’s not worth having nice stuff. I love your videos.
This is a B2650HSDC. The blower on this will not fit on a BX model. I have had a BX model before this one and they make a commercial grade blower for that one as well. It will throw the snow just as far as this one. Thanks for watching!
@@PilotChip I totally misspoke... The bx was electric and the B is hydraulic with an electric diverter. It is more robust but I actually liked the electric in the bx better. It flowed in operation better. Sorry about that. Both are land pride products. Dealer installed.
@@PilotChip I don't think you can because of the hydraulic pressure being too much off the 3rd function. They had to divert my rotation for it to work properly. That's why I had to go this route. With the electric chute I could rotate and move the deflector at the same time... Not anymore. But, it's supposed to be more robust like you said
This one is the GoPro Hero 5 Black. I've also used a GoPro Hero 5 Sessions and just picked up a Hero 8 Black beginning of this month. My last video, ruclips.net/video/XNz7IMhC07k/видео.html was recorded with the 8 Black inside the cab and the 5 Black outside.
Heat and AC. Even on the coldest days I find myself turning it to less than half the temp gauge as it warms fast.. Most of my snowplowing is done in a sweatshirt as I get too hot in a jacket. I usually have the fan on highest setting to keep the all glass cab from fogging. Thanks for watching.
Hello Beginner ~ If you're a beginner, I don't know what we would be called? We moved into a new home in a (Berkshire) mountainous setting in Nov 2018. The "honeymoon" ended abruptly, however, because the first snow storm hit us shortly thereafter and we forced to wake up to our new reality ... and we've been researching solutions ever since. We have a steep 500' asphalt drive with a large parking area at the top. Needless to say, we have the same issues with trying to avoid packing down snow as you have, so your words on your snow removal methods were well taken. I hope it doesn't come off as too simple, but I was wondering why you ended up with a tractor? Did you ever look into a UTV-snow blower combination? I'm not criticizing your decision in any way, I'm simply wondering where your research took you and why you landed where you did. By the way, we own forested property in the same town that the house is in, so we initially thought that a snowblower for a UTV would be the way to go. Our research, however, is giving us pause. In short, we've experienced winters here in the past that forced us to deal with LOTS of snow -- so we don't wish to invest a gob of money into a snow removal system that proves to be a failure after a couple of "big" snow seasons. Thanks for any thoughts you might be willing to share with us.
Hi Timberwright Svs and thanks for watching. We could be into some snow here in NH in November like last year so only a few more months to be thinking of Summer/Fall. Thanks for your comment! I initially had a plow truck which I kept having to fix the 4 wheel drive system every Winter and I ended up trading in the gas guzzler for a SUV. I immediately missed the plow truck but did have a heavy duty 12.5 hp Simplicity walk behind blower that was a beast. I could take care of my house surrounds and the driveway in about in hour or so time frame depending on the amount of snow. I don't have a super long driveway but it does have an "L" shape to it and depending on the wind, I had some issues blowing snow that could clear another part of the driveway. The driveway also has a slight slope to it for water drainage. The Simplicity would fight me trying to follow the slope and I had to constantly re-adjust which was pure hell on my shoulders and back. I always seemed to have a back issue and would be in for physical therapy and medications. I hated both. I started researching the BX series tractors and found that I could use it for many different uses with its array of attachments. I was not really familiar with the UTV's but did look them over at the dealership. For my property size I thought a tractor made more sense as I did want to have a loader and a possible grapple down the road to clean up some trees. The UTV at the time was about $12K more expensive as well. After 2 seasons with the BX I got a little more spoiled and really wanted a cab. Adding a cab to my BX was going to be about $6K and I wanted to get a grapple. By the time I ended up adding those together it made more sense to look into a factory cab B series tractor. I also found that moving around in the woods with the BX, the clearance was really lacking and I was afraid of catching the mid PTO on some stumps or other things. We also have plans, when the kids are out of the house and doing their own things, to downsize the house and get more land to play in. At this point we decided to go with the B series now as it should last me many many years. I'm happy with the decision, being in the heated cab in the winter was wonderful. The machine itself is a beast compared to the BX. I have done some grapple work around the house this Summer and A/C was wonderful too! I have a few more videos that I need to post with some of that but have just been bogged down at work. I hope I answered your question and sorry about being long winded. Ultimately it was the more capabilities of the tractor, the attachments that I wanted to add and the future ones that I plan to get once we get our land. I use the loader and grapple quite a bit which I couldn't get with a UTV. Feel free to reach out again with any questions. Thanks, Dave.
@@BeginnerforBSeries In my mind, the true value of the internet is the ability for real folks to communicate freely about the issues they encounter in life and, ultimately, how they overcome them...so, Dave, you can be as long-winded as you like. Every word you're wiling to share is humbly received, well taken and greatly appreciated. To make you aware of how we dealt with our new digs last winter, we moved a machine we've used on our forest land for more than a decade, a CAT 420D TLB, to our new home and, by trial and error, we quickly learned the differences between running a 10-ton TLB on gravel mountain roads and operating the same machine on a steep asphalt drive with a drop on one side. Unfortunately, the "drop" I'm referring to happens to be where the lateral pitch of the drive is aimed, so, much like with you and your old Simplicity machine, the CAT wants to follow a compound angle where the water normally flows -- and a TLB is inherently dangerous when it comes to a rollover, which I'm sure you can appreciate...which brings me back to our research. If you don't mind, I'm going to switch gears now and ask you for your thoughts on using a track type skid steer loader with a hydraulic snow blower attachment? Having read your last message, I fully understand why you went with a tractor, but, being large land owners, we're almost forced -- from a financial standpoint -- to invest in equipment that serves more than one purpose. We owned and operated a Polaris Ranger on the land for over a decade, but recently sold it (while it was still in decent condition). As I alluded to before, our pervading thought has been to purchase a newer/tougher Ranger with a 72" Bercomac snowblower...but, quite honestly, the videos we've seen and the stories we've read about using a UTV for working through tough winter storms has us thinking outside of the proverbial "box" at the moment. In short, we can always put a tracked skid steer to good use on the land, but I really have no idea how a machine like that works as a snow removal tool on steep/icy asphalt roads. I realize that you never mentioned a machine like the one I've just described, but you clearly have a lot more experience clearing snow off of a traditional drive than I do, so I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this. Once again, your words are most greatly appreciated ~ Red
@@timberwrightsvs480 Hi Red, I would say its a tough call at this point. I don't feel super comfortable on a track style machine as I almost feel like the tracks turn into skis on a lightly glazed and sloped asphalt driveway. Now, I can't say as I've ever been in the situation myself, but I have used tracked equipment before. I know they slide around just by changing direction a bit and I feel that it would only take a small push from one track to the other to get you sliding. One other thing I would suggest is that if you go the route of a tractor to make sure you go with turf tires, loaded as they get better traction on snow then the R4's do. With the tractor you also have the ability to add chains for added stability and traction. In 4 wheel drive with a diff lock I have never had to use chains but my driveway isn't nearly as long as yours is. Hope this helps a bit.
Good afternoon, please tell me how much is the attachments on the tractor used? Just in Russia such it is impossible to find, if you can, please give the address link on the store where you bought.
Camera allows a lot of light in but it was much darker for my eyes. Along my driveway I have some 6"+ rock lining and I didn't want to catch one of those in the auger. Plus, when I get down to the road I wanted to make sure drivers could see me. Thanks for watching up till the point of the lights at least.
Watching videos like yours give us ideas what we would like to have! Great video!
Thanks for watching!
BRILLIANT ! Can’t wait for next Winter in mine. Toasty warm.
Maurice you will love it. The Kubota line can really blow the snow far and away. When I had my BX I loved it because it saved my back and fighting with a walk behind but I got tired of it blowing back in my face. Moved to the B because of the factory cab and it is wonderful in the winter but also in the summer with that standard AC. Enjoy and thanks for watching!
THAT SURE LOOKS LIKE A SHIT TON OF FUN...I ENJOY USING MY SNOW BLOWER IN THE WINTER...DIG THEM ALL OUT...FUN. BUT THAT TRACTOR IS NICE..
Thank you! It sure makes a crappy job fun to do. Thanks for watching!
awesome video. I just bought one. Looking forward to winter for a change. No more shovelling or pushing my old snowblower.
Thanks for watching. You will be happy this winter for sure. I had enough of fighting with the walk behind and a slanted driveway. These things are beasts and will throw the snow 50 ft if you want to. Good luck!
Easy to listen to and good practical advice.
Thanks for watching George!
Why is snow blowing so satisfying....
IDK but still enjoy it too this day
Great video, people sometimes don't realize there is a strategy game to snow removal :) Thanks for posting
This is true. Ive been tractor blowing this for 3 season now. First with a bx2370 and now with the B2650. Just when I think I've figured out the most efficient way, I end up changing it the next time. Mostly due to wind.
Beginner for B Series you have the 2650 now, your wind worrying days are behind you....let it blow!
@@botadriver :-)
great video. Looks like fun. Can't wait to do the same on my kubota this year.
I can't wait myself. I don't really care for the snow much but not breaking my back or fighting with a walk behind anymore makes me get excited for the season. Thanks for subscribing!
Value for the money these 2650's cant be beat. We have one in our commercial fleet and for a small machine they are impressive! Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching! This machine has made my life so much easier and I don't have so many physical issues anymore. It does all the grunt work now.
Thanks for sharing
Great video. Nice package, may be moving to New England eventually. Do you recommend MB tractor?
I've driven past them in Elliot Maine.
Hi Drummin'man! Thanks for watching. Most of New England is beautiful, especially New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont. We just moved to a new home on top of a hill that has constant wind but the views are absolutely stunning. Gave the B2650 a good run this last Nor'easter we had. Lost power and everything for 18 hours. I wish I had planned my first winter video this season at the new place but the timing didn't line up. Anyhow, MB Tractor pretty much bought out all the competitors here in New Hampshire. I would say they have been good to me. The sales department seems sometimes too busy to really help out and they are slow to respond if at all. Could just be the location and salesman I deal with but after a few phone calls and emails I usually get my answers. The parts and service department has been top notch and really, after all the haggling about options and then getting that machine purchased, that is all you need to care about. I would definitely continue to do business with them. I've bought two tractors so far and they were great with me upgrading as well. Feel free to reach out if you move into the area and you have any more questions about the tractor or my experience with MB. Take care!
@@BeginnerforBSeriesGreat! Thank you.
Brother which part of world you live?Very beautiful place...lots of snow..
New Hampshire, USA
nice machine, thanks for sharing
That’s my dream blower
It sure makes something that used to be miserable to me; fun! Keep the dream alive! Thanks for watching!!
How many inches is the roof you park this under? Will it fit in a standard 7 ft garage?
It will not. I leave mine outside for right now and it drives me nuts. I just park the blower and front end under an overhang off my shed. Still working on a better solution without spending much.
Man the hydraulic on these tractors are loud
Yes they are.
Beginner for B Series
The B2650 is actually the tractor I am thinking about buying. What do you think of it as the time goes by that you have owned it ? As well as the snowblower ?
I absolutely love this machine. If I had one gripe about it, it would be the hydrostatic whine inside the cab. It's pretty loud however I've gotten used to it at this point. I've had it for 1.5 snow seasons and it is just a snow blowing and snow plowing beast. It will throw snow 50 feet if you want it to. The hydraulics on the blower work wonderful. Super fast chute rotation and a flick of a switch and you have a chute that does the same. I find the best combination to be a back blade and the front blower. I know a lot of people like to have the loader on for the winter months so they can move the snow piles but I really can't see why when the front blower will throw it as far as it does. You will see in my other videos that I blow the snow and then scrape with the back blade then blow any piles I've created. All this while staying nice and warm. The cab virtually feels like it isn't even there as there is so much glass that you can see very easily. The lift power on the loaded was quite an upgrade as well from my bx. I helped a neighbor out the other day that thought he needed to rent a jack hammer to break up a rock he found while making a fire pit. There were two and they were huge. I actually should have had more ballast weight as these would make the rear end come up a bit as I was driving. This was also with the back blade on. I couldn't lift them directly but the break out force was able to pop them out of the ground and then I pushed them with ease off into the woods. Don't hesitate to get this tractor! In fact I would get this over the LX model. They are basically the same tractor with the exception that the 2650 doesn't have the option for quick connect, K-connect to the front mounts and a PTO button on the dash to run it stand alone if you were to be chipping wood off the rear or something. I bet they will be blowing whatever inventory they have out on these to make room for the LX model. Good Luck! Sorry for the long winded response.
@@BeginnerforBSeries Great response thanks!
Do you do the neighbours driveways? Mine on both sides of me asked me to do there’s, I told them to fuck off. Their dog shits all over my lawn and I asked them to deal with that last summer and they just said dogs will be dogs...I hate them. The guy on the other side says I’m obligated to do his because I’m the only one on the street with a tractor. WTF?? Sometimes it’s not worth having nice stuff.
I love your videos.
Great video. If it is not too much trouble can you tell me what the height to the top of the cab is?
85" to the top of the cab. 87" to top of the hazard light configuration.
@@BeginnerforBSeries Thanks. So it will not pass through a 7 foot garage door.
@@miltonfreedman4225 no sir. That's the problem I have for now as well.
What tractor is this. Will this snowblower fit on a 2020 bx23s?
This is a B2650HSDC. The blower on this will not fit on a BX model. I have had a BX model before this one and they make a commercial grade blower for that one as well. It will throw the snow just as far as this one. Thanks for watching!
Is your chute deflector hydraulic? Our electric one crapped out.
Electric. Never had a problem with it on my B or BX setups.
Cool, do you mind sharing the brand/part number? Your's looks a little more robust, I may go with something different than what we've had.
@@PilotChip I totally misspoke... The bx was electric and the B is hydraulic with an electric diverter. It is more robust but I actually liked the electric in the bx better. It flowed in operation better. Sorry about that. Both are land pride products. Dealer installed.
Oh no worries, thanks for the clarification. I'm wondering if I install a third function remote if I could just build one off of that...
@@PilotChip I don't think you can because of the hydraulic pressure being too much off the 3rd function. They had to divert my rotation for it to work properly. That's why I had to go this route. With the electric chute I could rotate and move the deflector at the same time... Not anymore. But, it's supposed to be more robust like you said
what kind of camera do you use to film your videos ?
This one is the GoPro Hero 5 Black. I've also used a GoPro Hero 5 Sessions and just picked up a Hero 8 Black beginning of this month. My last video, ruclips.net/video/XNz7IMhC07k/видео.html was recorded with the 8 Black inside the cab and the 5 Black outside.
Are you in low range if not that’s why it whines so much and needs to be ran at full throttle
Usually medium range and I run it about 2300... I think it maxes at 2600. Thanks for the info. I'll try that on the next storm. Thanks for watching.
Any heat inside the cab?
Heat and AC. Even on the coldest days I find myself turning it to less than half the temp gauge as it warms fast.. Most of my snowplowing is done in a sweatshirt as I get too hot in a jacket. I usually have the fan on highest setting to keep the all glass cab from fogging. Thanks for watching.
Hello Beginner ~ If you're a beginner, I don't know what we would be called? We moved into a new home in a (Berkshire) mountainous setting in Nov 2018. The "honeymoon" ended abruptly, however, because the first snow storm hit us shortly thereafter and we forced to wake up to our new reality ... and we've been researching solutions ever since. We have a steep 500' asphalt drive with a large parking area at the top. Needless to say, we have the same issues with trying to avoid packing down snow as you have, so your words on your snow removal methods were well taken. I hope it doesn't come off as too simple, but I was wondering why you ended up with a tractor? Did you ever look into a UTV-snow blower combination? I'm not criticizing your decision in any way, I'm simply wondering where your research took you and why you landed where you did. By the way, we own forested property in the same town that the house is in, so we initially thought that a snowblower for a UTV would be the way to go. Our research, however, is giving us pause. In short, we've experienced winters here in the past that forced us to deal with LOTS of snow -- so we don't wish to invest a gob of money into a snow removal system that proves to be a failure after a couple of "big" snow seasons. Thanks for any thoughts you might be willing to share with us.
Hi Timberwright Svs and thanks for watching. We could be into some snow here in NH in November like last year so only a few more months to be thinking of Summer/Fall. Thanks for your comment! I initially had a plow truck which I kept having to fix the 4 wheel drive system every Winter and I ended up trading in the gas guzzler for a SUV. I immediately missed the plow truck but did have a heavy duty 12.5 hp Simplicity walk behind blower that was a beast. I could take care of my house surrounds and the driveway in about in hour or so time frame depending on the amount of snow. I don't have a super long driveway but it does have an "L" shape to it and depending on the wind, I had some issues blowing snow that could clear another part of the driveway. The driveway also has a slight slope to it for water drainage. The Simplicity would fight me trying to follow the slope and I had to constantly re-adjust which was pure hell on my shoulders and back. I always seemed to have a back issue and would be in for physical therapy and medications. I hated both. I started researching the BX series tractors and found that I could use it for many different uses with its array of attachments. I was not really familiar with the UTV's but did look them over at the dealership. For my property size I thought a tractor made more sense as I did want to have a loader and a possible grapple down the road to clean up some trees. The UTV at the time was about $12K more expensive as well. After 2 seasons with the BX I got a little more spoiled and really wanted a cab. Adding a cab to my BX was going to be about $6K and I wanted to get a grapple. By the time I ended up adding those together it made more sense to look into a factory cab B series tractor. I also found that moving around in the woods with the BX, the clearance was really lacking and I was afraid of catching the mid PTO on some stumps or other things. We also have plans, when the kids are out of the house and doing their own things, to downsize the house and get more land to play in. At this point we decided to go with the B series now as it should last me many many years. I'm happy with the decision, being in the heated cab in the winter was wonderful. The machine itself is a beast compared to the BX. I have done some grapple work around the house this Summer and A/C was wonderful too! I have a few more videos that I need to post with some of that but have just been bogged down at work. I hope I answered your question and sorry about being long winded. Ultimately it was the more capabilities of the tractor, the attachments that I wanted to add and the future ones that I plan to get once we get our land. I use the loader and grapple quite a bit which I couldn't get with a UTV. Feel free to reach out again with any questions. Thanks, Dave.
@@BeginnerforBSeries In my mind, the true value of the internet is the ability for real folks to communicate freely about the issues they encounter in life and, ultimately, how they overcome them...so, Dave, you can be as long-winded as you like. Every word you're wiling to share is humbly received, well taken and greatly appreciated. To make you aware of how we dealt with our new digs last winter, we moved a machine we've used on our forest land for more than a decade, a CAT 420D TLB, to our new home and, by trial and error, we quickly learned the differences between running a 10-ton TLB on gravel mountain roads and operating the same machine on a steep asphalt drive with a drop on one side. Unfortunately, the "drop" I'm referring to happens to be where the lateral pitch of the drive is aimed, so, much like with you and your old Simplicity machine, the CAT wants to follow a compound angle where the water normally flows -- and a TLB is inherently dangerous when it comes to a rollover, which I'm sure you can appreciate...which brings me back to our research. If you don't mind, I'm going to switch gears now and ask you for your thoughts on using a track type skid steer loader with a hydraulic snow blower attachment? Having read your last message, I fully understand why you went with a tractor, but, being large land owners, we're almost forced -- from a financial standpoint -- to invest in equipment that serves more than one purpose. We owned and operated a Polaris Ranger on the land for over a decade, but recently sold it (while it was still in decent condition). As I alluded to before, our pervading thought has been to purchase a newer/tougher Ranger with a 72" Bercomac snowblower...but, quite honestly, the videos we've seen and the stories we've read about using a UTV for working through tough winter storms has us thinking outside of the proverbial "box" at the moment. In short, we can always put a tracked skid steer to good use on the land, but I really have no idea how a machine like that works as a snow removal tool on steep/icy asphalt roads. I realize that you never mentioned a machine like the one I've just described, but you clearly have a lot more experience clearing snow off of a traditional drive than I do, so I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this. Once again, your words are most greatly appreciated ~ Red
@@timberwrightsvs480 Hi Red, I would say its a tough call at this point. I don't feel super comfortable on a track style machine as I almost feel like the tracks turn into skis on a lightly glazed and sloped asphalt driveway. Now, I can't say as I've ever been in the situation myself, but I have used tracked equipment before. I know they slide around just by changing direction a bit and I feel that it would only take a small push from one track to the other to get you sliding. One other thing I would suggest is that if you go the route of a tractor to make sure you go with turf tires, loaded as they get better traction on snow then the R4's do. With the tractor you also have the ability to add chains for added stability and traction. In 4 wheel drive with a diff lock I have never had to use chains but my driveway isn't nearly as long as yours is. Hope this helps a bit.
You should be watching the long kiss tonight
Whoever dies with the most toys wins.
Good afternoon, please tell me how much is the attachments on the tractor used? Just in Russia such it is impossible to find, if you can, please give the address link on the store where you bought.
For subframe and blower with hydraulic rotation and electric chute control it was around $6500. mbtractor.com
@@BeginnerforBSeries okay, thank you very much.
"Think I'll turn on the lights"..... that's when I turned off the video!
Camera allows a lot of light in but it was much darker for my eyes. Along my driveway I have some 6"+ rock lining and I didn't want to catch one of those in the auger. Plus, when I get down to the road I wanted to make sure drivers could see me. Thanks for watching up till the point of the lights at least.