To be honest I'm not entirely sure those opening shots were from pioneer 11, but they are listed as 1979 shots in an online gallery with no image details so I couldn't work it out. It's really hard to find vintage astrophotography online. Let me know if you find any!
There are some historical pictures on National Geographic www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/150716-first-look-planets-solar-system-pictures-pluto-space. However, there are shots from space probes, thus onboard optics (and especially transmissions) might not be very representative of what astrophotography could do from Earth at this time…. Nice pic of Saturn by the way 😀
Per Mark Adler, "Pioneer 10 and 11 each carried a 0.000001 megapixel camera. The single pixel was scanned over the body by the constant spin of the spacecraft in one direction and a slew of the spacecraft in the other. Building up one image took a long time, over which the relative position of the spacecraft and the body changed quite a bit, distorting the image."
Hey Dylan. Thanks for another great video. You know you have problems when... 1. You are stuck in Perth, due to the Sydney lockdown and forgot your telescope. 2. You buy a new HEQ 5 Pro for local use. 3. You void the warranty the next day with the Rowan Belt upgrade. 4. You haven't set up the guide scope yet so only have one camera tonight on a cheap 130 Newtonian (to be replaced with a new ED80 this weekend) 5. After three minutes of looking at stars you disconnect the single camera from Sharpcap and use it in PHD2. 6. You enjoy watching the sub arc second guide graph more than the stars... 👍
Thanks, Dylan. Another great video. Have to agree, we live in an amazing era where we can take photos from our backyards that were unthinkable 40 years ago, even with access to the best equipment. Great image.
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Great video as always Dylan. One thing regarding Photoshop, once the mono images (must be in grayscale and the same resolution) are opened in the channels tab you can click on the settings (four straight lines on the right side of the channels tab) and then on the option 'Merge Channels' and choose Mode: RGB and 3 channels. It's much faster then copying the layers one by one. Hope it helps, Thanks.
I noticed you changed the thumbnail from, "how to photography," to "how to photograph." Since you made an obvious attempt to satisfy the RUclips algorithm, I finally clicked on it.... Haha, I'm kidding, I know you changed it, but I was gonna watch anyway. I enjoy your videos, and thanks for your contribution to the astro community!
Unfortunately for those us in the Northern hemisphere, Saturn (and Jupiter) is currently quite low in the sky (Earth's northern polar axis being tilted away from the outer planets as we pass them)... so we're shooting through a lot of air mass. Saturn has the red-fringe/blue-fringe on opposite edges from atmospheric dispersion. But shooting with a monochrome camera and merging the RGB back together really helps with the dispersion problem. Once Saturn moves around to the other side of the solar system it will be high in the sky for us in the North... and then we get to freeze our butts off shooting it in the middle of winter ... through clouds (we get very few clear days up here in the winter months). We can't win. I should just give up and move to Australia.
I’ve photographed Saturn, Mars, Jupiter, Neptune, and Pluto before with nothing but a phone. I’m not bragging because I used the timing tool for taking the high quality planet photos. Jupiter was the only one of my planets with the least detail, with the Great Red Spot looking black. But still my photos were pretty detailed.
Thanks for the video. Only got a scope in March. Skywatcher 150pds. Got to the point where I'm going to try a planet. Was going to take individual photos, but now I know it should be video. Thanks.
OHHHH that's what spiral search is! Mine is only 6 inches. I definitely want an 11 inch one now. My planets look like bug smashed on the wind shield before registax sets ahold of it. Still blurry but a 1,000 times more sharp then right out of Autostackart. The free software we have today is completely amazing.
Thanks for the video! Would you mind explaining how to get to the correct backfocus, especially when adding an extender and/or barlow, I have been struggling to get my C9.25 to proper focus
Me too I just got a 4x powermate to use with my Meade 8" SCT and can't get focus no one seems to be able (or willing, is it a secret shhhh) to explain how to do it.
Beautiful work on Saturn, such nice colors. I’m guessing you preset the focus for each filter? I think that’s what you did for Jupiter video. Since Saturn doesn’t change as fast as Jupiter, did you focus each filter prior to starting the capture? That 11” aperture makes a big difference!
I've got some questions.. 1. Is wavelets editing on Registax necessary before playing with the colour channels? 2. I can't open tiff file on Photoshop, it's on windows btw, how do I access it?
Dylan - Is there a good guide for figuring out how to get proper backspacing using all the various equipment? I have an EdgeHD 8 and I’d love to convert from visual to photography but it’s a bit overwhelming trying to figure out what I need to make it all work.
Call the High Point Scientific people. They’re knowledgeable and can help get it figured out. No pressure to buy anything and they give honest opinions on what works without trying to upsell.
Tbh I got some pretty fine pictures of planets yesterday using just the asi290mc attached to the adapter for the tube, so without doing any kind of math, you'll do fine. Ofc it's important to do it if you get into Barlows and ADCs, but it's still not as important as deep sky
Dylan, excellent video but. . . you skipped over the hard part! My biggest problem is getting decent focus. If the image is tiny I can’t see the detail; if I go to 200% it’s blurry. If the gain is high it’s hard to see detail; if the gain is low. . . it’s still hard. The focus tools in SharpCap haven’t been much help, and I can’t find any sort of automatic focuser routine for planetary. Any advice? Other than getting younger eyes? Thanks (and for all the other great videos I didn’t bother to comment on).
do you make your data available for use to try editing on? I feel like you could squeeze a bit more detail(and less noise), but stacking more images(50%), and sharping through registax(wavelets).
Could provide me more details on the back focus especially the gold tube and the powermate? Also what is the total back focus length? I h ave a celestron 1100 as well with a zwo 071color camera
Saw an EAA setup last week at our monthly star party, it was very cool to have a semi live view of objects for people to check out, we had a 30inch monitor setup to kill our night vision ;)
Amazing! I just started planetary photography this year very helpful. I may need more than 2000mm focal though lol. Native focal length of my telescope is 1000mm how far can I push that?
Hello! amazing Video, thanks! it its really helpful. I just have one question, do you use different Gain, Exposure settings for each filter? or all of them are using the same parameters? cheers!
HI Dylan, new guy here. So before I throw all my stuff off my roof I was wondering what was better? Should I spend the money and get a deep sky object camera, or should I use my T6 Rebel DSLR. Which is better?? Orion is the dominate constellation in the sky right now and I was trying to get the Orion nebula, and failed after trying for 3 hours, hence the throwing shit off my roof. I went from a 4 inch reflective Jason telescope I got as a kid, to my recent Celestron 8SE. I tried using my celestron Neximage 10 and firecapture but have had no luck getting it to work....AT ALL!!! Did I mention at all.....need your help bud!! Be safe....
Hi Dylan, big fan!! Quick question. What do you think of Siril? Is it any good to use or should I carry on with DSS and Photoshop? Also I live in Sydney so I'll be sure to annoy the Bintel team and drop your name in store (when it opens up again)
Thanks for the tutorial. How did you align the Red/Green/Blue files so that there was no offset when you pasted into the channels - in Photoshop or AS!3? Thanks!
This was cool - I upgraded my old black-tube C8 to an Edge11 this year but I wasn't able to get a powermate yet- Still lots of back-order. I still pulled off an okay Saturn. I'm surprised you're not using Registax as well (although your data looked really nice without wavelets!). Clear skies!
I called the company I bought my 8SE from and they were very confused about back focus. My buddy said I should be using 105mm backfocus. Do I need backfocus using an 8SE with a 2x/3x barlow and a Canon 90D or ASI224mc?
Very good explanation of planetary photography Dylan! I’ve captured planets as my starting point for Astrophotography as it seems to be an order of magnitude easier than deep space, especially as tracking isn’t as big of an issue. Pretty timely video too, as Saturn has just passed through opposition!
Pretty slick, Dylan! Great image, but gee you went VERY fast for the processing steps. Please consider the newbies! How about a much slowed down image for the rest of us? Many thanks, Mel
Hi Dylan. Thanks so much for the video, really great stuff (haha). I just recently got an 11" edge (yes, I'm one of the lucky ones) and I was curious as to what is your backfocus distance that you've got going here? I was assuming it would be the 146.05, but that looks much longer and I don't know if the powermate causes you to add more. Thanks!
Dylan, you said you did five minute videos for each color. Two questions. 1. Did you do a luminance layer, or did I miss that? 2. This was Saturn, but what if you were doing Jupiter. With the rotation speed of Jupiter, would you still be able to stack like you did and not have an elongated GRS?
I like taking DSO, but lately the weather is throwing everything , whether it's rain and storms, and if not , then it's smoke from the West and Canada, from the forest fires. Looking at my mount gathering dust and realized, all I need is a few minutes of video, even if I could just catch a few minutes of clear skies between the clouds. Clouds ruining your DSO imaging and ready to pack up? Just slew over to Jupiter or Saturn, take out the flattener, put in a barlow, with your camera and make a few 3-4 minutes of videos of each as high speed as your camera can with ROI in the 400x400 or similar. It soothes the pain caused by unexpected clouds disrupting your DSO project.
I have a manual Dobsonian ($500, including mount) scope. Took an image of similar quality (my profile pic), tracking by hand with a mirrorless camera- it can be done.
Oh my god that is so good i am guessing an 8 inch dobsonian? Also what camera barlow all that stuff? I am waiting for my qhy5iii462c camera right now and have an 8 inch dobsonian definetely an upgrade from my svbony sv 105
Scope is a 10 inch cheapo Chinese brand. Camera is a good one-Sony A7iii which I bought a few years back to take pictures of Colombia. Haven't invested in specialist astrophotography camera or filters yet. No tracking is the big drawback. You aren't gonna get any decent DSO photos with my rig. It's mostly for visual.
@@ishanr8697 yea i know that you cant do dsos but no barlow too? Also i almost finished building an eq platform so if it works i will have guiding but it is cool that you got such a result with a dslr they arent the best for planetary but you made it really good
If I use video from un tracked telescope as planet goes from left to the right of the screen can that be stacked? Thanks Where do I buy stacking program?
Very good channel you have. Informative and very useful for astro noobs like me 😃🤭 But please please make your voice louder than music. It's problem of 90% RUclipsrs. What you are saying is way more important than some random music clip. And when I'm watching this with my headphones 🎧 and mobile, musical transitions can be painful 😖 Wish you all the best from sunny Europe 🌞
Show em the moon Dylan. Or would you rather remain a pop star getting free stuff for a short while. Yes, it only lasts a short while. Leave a mark Dylan. "It's a moral imperative"
Hi Dylan, very good Saturn picture, I have one question, Do you have try take a planet picture combining RGB with some narrow band filter maybe it highlights something interesting?
They're just reflecting light from the sun, so nothing to see in sho. Methane is kinda interesting but you get the point really quickly, look at a couple pics on Google, it's nothing crazy.
Question about your image train for planetary. So the Powermate at the end of your extension (fnar, fnar) is at what would be the focal plane for the C11 and then you add more spacers after the Powermate (+filter wheel and camera) to get focus at the camera, yes? I've tried Planetary with a C925 and it works ok but never had any success in focussing with using a barlow x2.5 in the train. Is there reason you put the Powermate after the extension and not at the back of the scope before the extension?
"The 100 000 dollar telescope takes this picture of Saturn. My telescope costs 90 000 dollars and I can take just as good of an image for next to nothing lol."
Hi Dylan, stay safe ! @ 5.21 you ticked close to edge, I'm sure I read the opposite somewhere ? I'm going to try your way nest time it's clear ... maybe 2023 :-)
I don't have such a long focal length. I have tried to do similar captures of the moon while waiting for my target to be ready and couldn't get the frames to stack easily and the RGB didn't align in photoshop. Could you do this for lunar?
I don't think CCDs have a wider bandpass than CMOS, and what kind of wavelength do you want to shoot anyways? CMOS go from near uv to near ir, everything one needs, no?
Interesting that you do the deconvolution entirely in AutoStakkert -- I've never tried that. I've always used wavelet sharpening in RegiStax or the like, and adjusted it for best results. Concerning "lucky imaging" -- there's another thing going on besides just selecting the sharpest frames. Even if you're not "lucky" and stack 100% of the frames, you still get the advantage of the fact that the sum of a large number of random blurs, combined, is a Gaussian blur and can be undone algorithmically. (The same reason statistics is full of bell curves -- the sum of random variables has a bell-curve distribution.) Try stacking 50%, 75%, or even 100%. You'll be surprised. (Mathematics of this, with graphs demonstrating it, is in Digital SLR Astrophotography.)
I have been capturing individual PNG frames instead of a video file then feeding those into AS3. Does it matter whether it is individual frames in separate files or a single video? I was thinking maybe not? 🤔
Got my c9.25 for 1,200€, very respected telescope for planets, but you need the mount and cameras to go with it, it's an expensive hobby... I'm pretty sure you can find a c8 for less than $800, and a solid mount for about $1K, maybe less if you're lucky and check the used marketplace often (I got my cgem for 500€!). An asi 224mc will do, I think it's about $200. The 'problem' with planetary is that you need a big telescope right off the bat. If you don't plan to do deep sky, get a dobsonian, you'll find some really good ones for less than a grand, and some 250s for maybe $300-$400.
Agree with @highasheaven .. the 9.25" is a really excellent all rounder scope if you want to so some DSO and some planets too with magnifiers and reducers to change the focal length.
To be honest I'm not entirely sure those opening shots were from pioneer 11, but they are listed as 1979 shots in an online gallery with no image details so I couldn't work it out. It's really hard to find vintage astrophotography online. Let me know if you find any!
There are some historical pictures on National Geographic www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/150716-first-look-planets-solar-system-pictures-pluto-space.
However, there are shots from space probes, thus onboard optics (and especially transmissions) might not be very representative of what astrophotography could do from Earth at this time….
Nice pic of Saturn by the way 😀
I am so glad it is a picture of Saturn and not a picture of Uranus.
Next time for sure
Per Mark Adler,
"Pioneer 10 and 11 each carried a 0.000001 megapixel camera. The single pixel was scanned over the body by the constant spin of the spacecraft in one direction and a slew of the spacecraft in the other. Building up one image took a long time, over which the relative position of the spacecraft and the body changed quite a bit, distorting the image."
How arduous! I wonder if these are earth slide conversions of that data.
Really? That’s fairly archaic doing a raster scan like that. Just like analog TV cameras pre-CCD era.
All this time I’ve been talking these pills and all I needed was a bigger scope...damn!
Dodgy pp enhancement links in the description.
Hey Dylan. Thanks for another great video.
You know you have problems when...
1. You are stuck in Perth, due to the Sydney lockdown and forgot your telescope.
2. You buy a new HEQ 5 Pro for local use.
3. You void the warranty the next day with the Rowan Belt upgrade.
4. You haven't set up the guide scope yet so only have one camera tonight on a cheap 130 Newtonian (to be replaced with a new ED80 this weekend)
5. After three minutes of looking at stars you disconnect the single camera from Sharpcap and use it in PHD2.
6. You enjoy watching the sub arc second guide graph more than the stars... 👍
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Thanks, Dylan. Another great video. Have to agree, we live in an amazing era where we can take photos from our backyards that were unthinkable 40 years ago, even with access to the best equipment. Great image.
Great video as always Dylan. One thing regarding Photoshop, once the mono images (must be in grayscale and the same resolution) are opened in the channels tab you can click on the settings (four straight lines on the right side of the channels tab) and then on the option 'Merge Channels' and choose Mode: RGB and 3 channels. It's much faster then copying the layers one by one. Hope it helps, Thanks.
I don't trust this guy. He's not wearing a lab coat.
I noticed you changed the thumbnail from, "how to photography," to "how to photograph." Since you made an obvious attempt to satisfy the RUclips algorithm, I finally clicked on it.... Haha, I'm kidding, I know you changed it, but I was gonna watch anyway. I enjoy your videos, and thanks for your contribution to the astro community!
Unfortunately for those us in the Northern hemisphere, Saturn (and Jupiter) is currently quite low in the sky (Earth's northern polar axis being tilted away from the outer planets as we pass them)... so we're shooting through a lot of air mass. Saturn has the red-fringe/blue-fringe on opposite edges from atmospheric dispersion. But shooting with a monochrome camera and merging the RGB back together really helps with the dispersion problem. Once Saturn moves around to the other side of the solar system it will be high in the sky for us in the North... and then we get to freeze our butts off shooting it in the middle of winter ... through clouds (we get very few clear days up here in the winter months). We can't win. I should just give up and move to Australia.
Yeh southern hem is spoiled right now.. especially last few years with the rings at such extreme angles .. will be a thin line by 2025!
I’ve photographed Saturn, Mars, Jupiter, Neptune, and Pluto before with nothing but a phone. I’m not bragging because I used the timing tool for taking the high quality planet photos. Jupiter was the only one of my planets with the least detail, with the Great Red Spot looking black. But still my photos were pretty detailed.
Perfect, especially the simple approach to AS!3. So many convoluted tutorials out there that blow my beginner mind.
It's pretty straightforward eh!
@@DylanODonnell If only it were possible to do a straighforward approach for Pixinsight...
Wow! 7000mm focal length!!! No wonder you got in close! Awesome capture.
Thanks for the video. Only got a scope in March. Skywatcher 150pds. Got to the point where I'm going to try a planet. Was going to take individual photos, but now I know it should be video. Thanks.
Welcome !
OHHHH that's what spiral search is! Mine is only 6 inches. I definitely want an 11 inch one now. My planets look like bug smashed on the wind shield before registax sets ahold of it. Still blurry but a 1,000 times more sharp then right out of Autostackart. The free software we have today is completely amazing.
Thanks for the video! Would you mind explaining how to get to the correct backfocus, especially when adding an extender and/or barlow, I have been struggling to get my C9.25 to proper focus
Me too I just got a 4x powermate to use with my Meade 8" SCT and can't get focus no one seems to be able (or willing, is it a secret shhhh) to explain how to do it.
@@ronhavelock1870 The secret society of those who can focus with a Barlow/Extender LOL
Amazing how far 4 decades of technology has brought us.
I've recently upgraded to a skywatcher 130/750 tube, and a zwo 224mc. Looking at doing planets with.
Hi Dylan! I love your new outfit...I was busy and out for a while. Please continue this kind of outfit! It looks good on you. BTW, Saturn looks great!
You: project lead for NASA's $155M telescope
Dylan: the man she tells you not to worry about
Hah! Stealin yo girl
Beautiful work on Saturn, such nice colors. I’m guessing you preset the focus for each filter? I think that’s what you did for Jupiter video. Since Saturn doesn’t change as fast as Jupiter, did you focus each filter prior to starting the capture? That 11” aperture makes a big difference!
Exactly right! Focussed each filter individually and set them electronically. Makes me want better filters though.
I've got some questions..
1. Is wavelets editing on Registax necessary before playing with the colour channels?
2. I can't open tiff file on Photoshop, it's on windows btw, how do I access it?
Dylan - Is there a good guide for figuring out how to get proper backspacing using all the various equipment? I have an EdgeHD 8 and I’d love to convert from visual to photography but it’s a bit overwhelming trying to figure out what I need to make it all work.
Call the High Point Scientific people. They’re knowledgeable and can help get it figured out. No pressure to buy anything and they give honest opinions on what works without trying to upsell.
Tbh I got some pretty fine pictures of planets yesterday using just the asi290mc attached to the adapter for the tube, so without doing any kind of math, you'll do fine. Ofc it's important to do it if you get into Barlows and ADCs, but it's still not as important as deep sky
Dylan, excellent video but. . . you skipped over the hard part! My biggest problem is getting decent focus. If the image is tiny I can’t see the detail; if I go to 200% it’s blurry. If the gain is high it’s hard to see detail; if the gain is low. . . it’s still hard. The focus tools in SharpCap haven’t been much help, and I can’t find any sort of automatic focuser routine for planetary. Any advice? Other than getting younger eyes? Thanks (and for all the other great videos I didn’t bother to comment on).
Thanks Dylan! This process is great.
do you make your data available for use to try editing on? I feel like you could squeeze a bit more detail(and less noise), but stacking more images(50%), and sharping through registax(wavelets).
Thanks for showing the image train. I have been mucking around to see a setup that works, and that was perfect.
Glad it helped! I always forget the train each year so I do that partly so I can go back and figure it out again next year 😆
You reach the correct back focus like what we do in deep sky astrophotography?
Could provide me more details on the back focus especially the gold tube and the powermate? Also what is the total back focus length? I h ave a celestron 1100 as well with a zwo 071color camera
Nice one Dylan, I have been wanting to finally get around to doing some of this so great to have this to follow. Great work as always big pee pee boy
That auto-guiding graph at the end was sweet.
Great video Dylan. You don’t use Registak6? I’m glad you can replace it with PS
Just the video we need now with so many planets ! Love it and the new jacket look 😊
Thanks. I see you have eyes on Saturn now too... hopefully this helps!
@@DylanODonnell lol yes I’ll take all the help I can get 😂
Saw an EAA setup last week at our monthly star party, it was very cool to have a semi live view of objects for people to check out, we had a 30inch monitor setup to kill our night vision ;)
Yeh I prefer that to visual :)
Dylan that's fricking awesome! How are you finding the EQ8-R? I wish I had of saved up a bit more money and got that over the CEM70
Thanks Dylan. great stuff.
Great video
My question is when do you switch filters and on how often in video
Ahh 5minutes video each
What camera did you use?
174mm .. old but still delivers the goods!
Hell yeah great shot I like the video man
Amazing! I just started planetary photography this year very helpful. I may need more than 2000mm focal though lol. Native focal length of my telescope is 1000mm how far can I push that?
2.5x powermate = 2500mm FL ... give it a try :)
@@DylanODonnell I will thanks(:
It may be massive, but the spindly bit hanging off the end may scare a few people off.
there's someone for everyone
1:59 this caught me off guard so much lmao
Hello! amazing Video, thanks! it its really helpful. I just have one question, do you use different Gain, Exposure settings for each filter? or all of them are using the same parameters?
cheers!
How did you go about working out your focus and how long of an extension tube you needed, etc?
trial and error.. I'm lazy like that.
Great as always Dylan
Cheers astro anon :)
HI Dylan, new guy here. So before I throw all my stuff off my roof I was wondering what was better? Should I spend the money and get a deep sky object camera, or should I use my T6 Rebel DSLR. Which is better?? Orion is the dominate constellation in the sky right now and I was trying to get the Orion nebula, and failed after trying for 3 hours, hence the throwing shit off my roof. I went from a 4 inch reflective Jason telescope I got as a kid, to my recent Celestron 8SE. I tried using my celestron Neximage 10 and firecapture but have had no luck getting it to work....AT ALL!!! Did I mention at all.....need your help bud!! Be safe....
Astro cam is good but not before a better mount :)
Purdy sweet shot there.
Thanks mate! It's not as good as it could be with a touch better seeing and better processing but hopefully this rough demo helps people.
Dylan, how did you avoid oversampling?
Hi Dylan, big fan!! Quick question. What do you think of Siril? Is it any good to use or should I carry on with DSS and Photoshop? Also I live in Sydney so I'll be sure to annoy the Bintel team and drop your name in store (when it opens up again)
Spiral search is rather disconcerting when its time lapsed and sped up :)
HAh yeh it's odd to perceive
Thanks for the tutorial. How did you align the Red/Green/Blue files so that there was no offset when you pasted into the channels - in Photoshop or AS!3? Thanks!
That is an awesome capture of Saturn!
This was cool - I upgraded my old black-tube C8 to an Edge11 this year but I wasn't able to get a powermate yet- Still lots of back-order. I still pulled off an okay Saturn. I'm surprised you're not using Registax as well (although your data looked really nice without wavelets!). Clear skies!
Yeh this was just a quick demo ... in truth I fiddle for a lot longer :) But some people wanted to see the general process.
I called the company I bought my 8SE from and they were very confused about back focus. My buddy said I should be using 105mm backfocus. Do I need backfocus using an 8SE with a 2x/3x barlow and a Canon 90D or ASI224mc?
Nice video! thanks, it's great to see you almost have your hair under control now, sharp as a marble.
Great Video Dylan. Thanks for the walk through 👍
Cheers Andrew!
Do a budget version of this maybe plz
Thank you Dylan. This video is just what I need :-)
Thanks for the instructions, very informative and useful
Don't get rid of white lab coat, it looks cool :)
Hehe it will be back. It was just really cold today.
Very good explanation of planetary photography Dylan! I’ve captured planets as my starting point for Astrophotography as it seems to be an order of magnitude easier than deep space, especially as tracking isn’t as big of an issue. Pretty timely video too, as Saturn has just passed through opposition!
I do find it much easier / quicker but DSOs will always have my heart :)
Timestamp 3:58 is the actual unaltered image of Jupiter. Beyond that it's subjective artwork.
Pretty slick, Dylan! Great image, but gee you went VERY fast for the processing steps. Please consider the newbies! How about a much slowed down image for the rest of us? Many thanks, Mel
That was slow!
You can always rewind and pause, or click on the gear button and decrease the playback speed
Great photo and tutorial! Film was a biatch. Enjoy lockdown. ;-)
Hi Dylan. Thanks so much for the video, really great stuff (haha). I just recently got an 11" edge (yes, I'm one of the lucky ones) and I was curious as to what is your backfocus distance that you've got going here? I was assuming it would be the 146.05, but that looks much longer and I don't know if the powermate causes you to add more. Thanks!
Seriously using Tool as soundtrack????? Epic!!
Great Tips! Thanks dylan!👍🏻👍🏻🪐🌎
No worries, thanks!
Dylan, you said you did five minute videos for each color. Two questions. 1. Did you do a luminance layer, or did I miss that? 2. This was Saturn, but what if you were doing Jupiter. With the rotation speed of Jupiter, would you still be able to stack like you did and not have an elongated GRS?
Correct I’d only do 45s max for each colour for Jupiter. I used G for Lum but some people use R.
I like taking DSO, but lately the weather is throwing everything , whether it's rain and storms, and if not , then it's smoke from the West and Canada, from the forest fires. Looking at my mount gathering dust and realized, all I need is a few minutes of video, even if I could just catch a few minutes of clear skies between the clouds. Clouds ruining your DSO imaging and ready to pack up? Just slew over to Jupiter or Saturn, take out the flattener, put in a barlow, with your camera and make a few 3-4 minutes of videos of each as high speed as your camera can with ROI in the 400x400 or similar. It soothes the pain caused by unexpected clouds disrupting your DSO project.
Hey, so quick question. What would it take to get a picture of a planet that you could print at 8x10, or preferably, 10x13?
I'd like you now to do the same video but with a budget setup so new astronomers can see whats achievable 🤔
Another fab vid, Dylan. Stay safe Mr Hunka Hunka StarStuff!
😘
@@DylanODonnell hehehe
Is it possible to use a fixed tripod (sony 200-600+1.4x+A6400) and then align the individual frames in photoshop with auto-align?
I have a manual Dobsonian ($500, including mount) scope. Took an image of similar quality (my profile pic), tracking by hand with a mirrorless camera- it can be done.
Oh my god that is so good i am guessing an 8 inch dobsonian? Also what camera barlow all that stuff? I am waiting for my qhy5iii462c camera right now and have an 8 inch dobsonian definetely an upgrade from my svbony sv 105
Nice!
Scope is a 10 inch cheapo Chinese brand. Camera is a good one-Sony A7iii which I bought a few years back to take pictures of Colombia. Haven't invested in specialist astrophotography camera or filters yet. No tracking is the big drawback. You aren't gonna get any decent DSO photos with my rig. It's mostly for visual.
@@ishanr8697 yea i know that you cant do dsos but no barlow too? Also i almost finished building an eq platform so if it works i will have guiding but it is cool that you got such a result with a dslr they arent the best for planetary but you made it really good
I use a 5x focal extender and an ADC
If I use video from un tracked telescope as planet goes from left to the right of the screen can that be stacked?
Thanks
Where do I buy stacking program?
In theory yes. If the stacking program doesn’t stabilise it, you could use PPIP software to do it. Auto stakkert 3 is free.
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I have obsession 15” and does a killer job on planets with astrovid planet cam camera
I’ll consider what you said
Thanks so much.
How different would it have been, do you think, if you had done your Color Camera + Mono Camera combo trick? Oh, yeah, nicely done!
Definitely possible, but it would be a pain to swap camera's mid session.. especially if the planet is rotating too quick !
How would narow band filter do?
Fakeish color but? Definition or fun image
Methane filter is interesting for planets
Very good channel you have. Informative and very useful for astro noobs like me 😃🤭
But please please make your voice louder than music. It's problem of 90% RUclipsrs. What you are saying is way more important than some random music clip. And when I'm watching this with my headphones 🎧 and mobile, musical transitions can be painful 😖
Wish you all the best from sunny Europe 🌞
Great shot, m8! Must be interesting watching you move those scopes in/out that small doorway in your observatory. 🍻
Hah .. it's awkward as hell
No doubt. Hope neither of them get dinged ... ever!
Just 12% stacked, you're mean lol Looked freaking amazing though! I want an Edge HD back in my life! : )
Show em the moon Dylan. Or would you rather remain a pop star getting free stuff for a short while. Yes, it only lasts a short while. Leave a mark Dylan. "It's a moral imperative"
Keepin’ up the good work!
Hi Dylan, very good Saturn picture, I have one question, Do you have try take a planet picture combining RGB with some narrow band filter maybe it highlights something interesting?
They're just reflecting light from the sun, so nothing to see in sho. Methane is kinda interesting but you get the point really quickly, look at a couple pics on Google, it's nothing crazy.
@@highasheaven9239 Thanks
Yeh some people do interesting passes in other bands .. but I don't find them as sharp as Red or Green channel usually.
Why do you combine images in Photoshop, but not Pixinsight? Thanks
Question about your image train for planetary. So the Powermate at the end of your extension (fnar, fnar) is at what would be the focal plane for the C11 and then you add more spacers after the Powermate (+filter wheel and camera) to get focus at the camera, yes? I've tried Planetary with a C925 and it works ok but never had any success in focussing with using a barlow x2.5 in the train. Is there reason you put the Powermate after the extension and not at the back of the scope before the extension?
How close did you get to the diffraction limit?
Pretty sure I blew right past it!
Aperture 280mm /11.02 inches
Maximum Magnification :560x
Resolving Limit (Dawes): :0.41" arcseconds. 👈🏼
Native Focal Length / F: 2800mm / F10
Non-Native Focal Length / F: 7000mm / F25
Ideal Resolution : 0.67" - 2" arcseconds
Resolution 0.17" arcseconds per pixel. 👈🏼
Sampling Significant Oversampling ⚠⚠⚠
Camera Chip FOV 0.09° x 0.06°
Brilliant Dylan! (Hopefully you saw the Andromeda photo I tagged you on in Instagram?)
"The 100 000 dollar telescope takes this picture of Saturn. My telescope costs 90 000 dollars and I can take just as good of an image for next to nothing lol."
Hi Dylan. Looks like you used Windows on your Mac to process the images. Is there no Mac alternative / version of the software?
That's right.. I used Windows for Capture / Stack and Mac for Photoshop post processing. No Mac alternatives for stacking planets that I know of!
If I had $10.000 of equipment I probably wouldn't come here to watch a tutorial on how to take a photo of a planet
Mono camera and rgb filters ok for Saturn but does really work with Jupiter as it rotates so fast?
Thanks for video !!
Only get 1 min with each channel. Usually 3 mins per shot.
Yeh 45s to 60s per chan for Jove :) It's quick but also lotta surface detail that would smear!
WinJupos--further down the rabbit hole....
What extension tube are you using. Im having a ton of trouble finding enough backfocus with the barlow attached
You know it was just a bit that came with the guidescope! I need it for that too when I'm using it.
I might be wrong but honestly I'd stack about 40% of that data. I think it would help a lot to make it smoother. Anyways the picture looked great!
Nice jacket. Nice photos as well.
Thanks x 2 heh :)
@@DylanODonnell I feel it necessary to acknowledge the significant amount of time and effort required to create a single video. I commend you.
Cheer Keith.. it’s a bit of a time suck but I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t enjoy it :) comments like yours help.
Hi Dylan, stay safe ! @ 5.21 you ticked close to edge, I'm sure I read the opposite somewhere ? I'm going to try your way nest time it's clear ... maybe 2023 :-)
I figure it's easier for the software to align on edge details as Saturn doesn't actually have much surface detail for it to align on.
I don't have such a long focal length. I have tried to do similar captures of the moon while waiting for my target to be ready and couldn't get the frames to stack easily and the RGB didn't align in photoshop. Could you do this for lunar?
I love those images, I was wondering if you would use a ccd camera if you wanted to do wavelengths that aren't really doable with a cmos?
I don't think CCDs have a wider bandpass than CMOS, and what kind of wavelength do you want to shoot anyways? CMOS go from near uv to near ir, everything one needs, no?
@@highasheaven9239 I was thinking something like full ir, I thought ccd could do from uv to ir
some of the newer CMOSs are reeealy sensitive to IR! (see the QHY462c)
Interesting that you do the deconvolution entirely in AutoStakkert -- I've never tried that. I've always used wavelet sharpening in RegiStax or the like, and adjusted it for best results.
Concerning "lucky imaging" -- there's another thing going on besides just selecting the sharpest frames. Even if you're not "lucky" and stack 100% of the frames, you still get the advantage of the fact that the sum of a large number of random blurs, combined, is a Gaussian blur and can be undone algorithmically. (The same reason statistics is full of bell curves -- the sum of random variables has a bell-curve distribution.) Try stacking 50%, 75%, or even 100%. You'll be surprised. (Mathematics of this, with graphs demonstrating it, is in Digital SLR Astrophotography.)
I’ll give it a go ! Thanks !
About photoshop have you try free DaVinci?
I have not
I have been capturing individual PNG frames instead of a video file then feeding those into AS3. Does it matter whether it is individual frames in separate files or a single video? I was thinking maybe not? 🤔
Lol saw you on reddit earlier and was taken a back when i realised it was you nice work
Yeh I'll often post the better work there too :) Thanks for watching!
I've been thinking on getting into imaging planets. What's a good starter scope that doesn't cost $5 grand? haha. Awesome shot man.
Got my c9.25 for 1,200€, very respected telescope for planets, but you need the mount and cameras to go with it, it's an expensive hobby...
I'm pretty sure you can find a c8 for less than $800, and a solid mount for about $1K, maybe less if you're lucky and check the used marketplace often (I got my cgem for 500€!). An asi 224mc will do, I think it's about $200. The 'problem' with planetary is that you need a big telescope right off the bat. If you don't plan to do deep sky, get a dobsonian, you'll find some really good ones for less than a grand, and some 250s for maybe $300-$400.
Agree with @highasheaven .. the 9.25" is a really excellent all rounder scope if you want to so some DSO and some planets too with magnifiers and reducers to change the focal length.
@@DylanODonnell I have a deepsky rig, just looking for a scope that can fir the EQM-35 haha