Great video. My jaw dropped when I saw my favorite plant: Saturn. One minor correction is that when you double the focal length with the tele-converter/Barlow, you are left with 1/4 of the light, so you are losing way more than half. But like you said, "the planets are bright" and as your results show, you don't need the extra light. Very well done. I'm blown away. Thanks for the video!
What I am more impressed with is how he got such results in a not dark place. I keep hearing that you must be in a very dark place or you won't see anything and yet, I keep seeing folks after folks having great results in a not so dark place.
I think when people emphasize light pollution it has to do almost exclusively with deep sky objects like galaxies and nebulas. They are very much NOT bright. But planets are often TOO bright to even see details, and need to be darkened.
imho weavelet sharpening in registax is superior to deconvolution. it produces WAY less artifacts, has better control over noise and can peel out more detail!
That’s fact I was in florida observing saturn the view made me buy the same scope I tried in Florida but with the same scope I never got the same view in Wisconsin ever .
Hi Bray, great video from my beginners point of view. Good clear skies are a must but here in the UK its been cloudy nearly every night since last March. I envy your location, nice work..
Good video and great images, but I feel like you are hiding all the good stuff. I know everyone's setups are different, but it would have been nice to see your capture settings for Saturn for those shooting with similar rigs. And then when you went to PI instead of Registax like everyone else after AS3, I was excited to learn exactly how to use PI instead of Regi, but the details were sparse then the video sped up and you went into Regi and did something then AS3 popped up again. not sure what you did there, and all of a sudden we were in WinJupos. Your process between AS3 and WinJupos is very intriguing, and your capture settings for Saturn pique one's curiosity; care to help a brother out? I would love to learn those aspects from you. Thanks - "Dustin Gazz"
Have you done this at Starfront yet? I remember watching your old videos and then the observatory idea and thinking you were insane. Hopefully I'll have a scope there someday.
do you also do polar align with that camera? I havethat same EdgeHD with the 585mc and it's very challenging doing PA cause it doesn't find many stars...
I love looking at these planets, our solar system is so amazing. I have a question for you, i just saw another capture of saturn and the angle is different, how is this possible and wouldnt we all get the same view from anywhere on our small planet?
This is the first time I'm watching your you tube video. Though I'm not from science background space science always fascinated me. Waiting for more videos from you. Regards from India. 💐
Good to include a clip of the live feed while recording. Even on youtube it is possible to see details in the rings, which are not in the final image. In earlier versions of the software, it was possible to manually select a part of a planet to refer the quality of the frames to keep. For example I did this with Io on Jupiter. A perfect disc with shading in a 16cm dall kirkham. What recent software is doing is averaging details, it doesn't know what a NASA reference looks like. Damian Peach looks at all his sub frames I suggest. He has gone to a lot of trouble to get a few minutes of video. If you did that with your data I bet there is a sharper final image to be obtained. Mask frames for each sharpest area of detail and manually stack in photoshop?
Hey thanks for sharing this and especially for the collimation part, I have a C9.25 (not the edgeHD one) and I'm going to try jupiter and mars soon. Hopefully the skies will clear soon. Wow!! The seeing is excellent there!
Great video Bray. It just earned you a new sub ! ;-) You have an open invitation in Moab Utah where I live to do some shooting under Bortal 1- 2 sky's and no mosquitos either ! LOL... Anyhow I'm 62 and retired and after a 10 year space of time I'm getting back into this hobby again. (There goes the wallet😅) I have to say the changes in tech since I was doing this back in 2014 are flat out amazing.. I guess you could say I got bit by the bug again, just not a mosquito, haha. All the best from Moab ! Cheers...
I see that you are having those double edges and shadows in the stacked Saturn image, the problem is AutoAlign in FireCapture, next time switch it off and you will get a much better stacked image like day/night difference.
Interestig video thanks. Your final image of Jupiter looks great. The Saturn images shows a lot of rings, but, in my humble oppinion, looks a bit oversharpened.
Very nice mate, you did an extremely good job for someone stepping out of their comfort zone. I'd hate to think what a video of me doing DSO work would look like Hahaha.👍
@@astrofalls If you ever have anything you think i may be able to help with be sure to send a DM on twitter. I'd be happy to have a look and offer my thoughts. All the best
Would you mind putting your raw data up on a google drive for others to try processing? a 3 minute capture of Saturn and Jupiter. I live in Toronto, and I could never in my life get seeing like that. At my latitude I'm looking through 2.0 atmospheres at all times when capturing planets, its hell on the seeing.
New Subscriber here.. Are you going to Capture Saturn 🪐 Again this year Next month.? I think it is at Opposition on September 8th. lol those Misquotes 🤦♂️
though your end results are great, I always prefer an animation over a derotated stack!.. Animations make it even more tangible, and derotating always gives strange artefacts.
The edge of the Jupiter photo is too bright, because of this Jupiter looks somewhat flat. You can also see parallel ring artifacts near the edge. The last time I processed a picture of jupiter I think I used a "deringing" option to reduce the ring artifacts near the edge.
I've lived in Texas since 1984, and his claims about Texas are overblown. Remember, Texas is a HUGE state, and generally the further west you go, the better the seeing will be.
As somebody who isnt in this community, I just want to be honest here and say that the processed photos to me look way worse than the blurry images taken directly from the telescope. Again I dont do astrophotography or even have a telescope so I guess anyone could just tell me to shut up bc I dont know anything but to me having an untouched blurry image of saturn that visible is far more impressive than editing it and making it look like something you would post on Instagram. Im not trying to hate or anything here Im just explaining what I see as an outsider. I understand that it makes the atmospheres of the planets more visible but it also makes the images look ai generated or over sharpened and blown out. If anyone can tell me why this is actually done other than to show more detail I would appreciate the insight. Edit: After finishing the video I do gotta say though that the images of the moon are outstanding and inspiring.
I wear glasses, but when I go to the movie theater or watch tv, I like to take them off. I want to be honest and say that the way the movies looks with my glasses off ,and all blurry, looks so much better. Same goes with watching this video and reading comments. If anyone can tell me why glasses are use other that to show more detail and to be able to see everything sharper, I would appreciate the insight.
462 Mc is cheap camera I’m surprised for the quality you made of it I wonder if my 585 Mc would do anything similar quality by your equipment and location
so, let me get this straight: you had $5000 for that beautiful beast (it's portable only if you say so.....), but you didn't have $70 for the counterweights? :) lol.. nice images, though. clear skies! :)
I really want to get into this, and was about to buy my first telescope. But after seeing a YT Vid 'Expectation vs Reality' it made me kinda shy away from the astro hobby. And all this "Post Production" stuff is cheating. Same as a not so good looking person photo shopping their profile pic to look more "desirable" on their social media platforms.
this clown works for the controllers he will never focus in properly so u can see what they really look like !!! no telescope will turn wandering stars into cartoon ball planets
These mosquitos only think with their proboscis. Literally sickening
I'm blown away by the quality of the final images. Just, wow.
This is super super super super super super super duper (I cannot stress enough) immaculate!
You kill me. Dealing with water weight...LOL.
Great video. My jaw dropped when I saw my favorite plant: Saturn. One minor correction is that when you double the focal length with the tele-converter/Barlow, you are left with 1/4 of the light, so you are losing way more than half. But like you said, "the planets are bright" and as your results show, you don't need the extra light. Very well done. I'm blown away. Thanks for the video!
Awesome work Bray
What I am more impressed with is how he got such results in a not dark place.
I keep hearing that you must be in a very dark place or you won't see anything and yet, I keep seeing folks after folks having great results in a not so dark place.
I think when people emphasize light pollution it has to do almost exclusively with deep sky objects like galaxies and nebulas. They are very much NOT bright. But planets are often TOO bright to even see details, and need to be darkened.
imho weavelet sharpening in registax is superior to deconvolution. it produces WAY less artifacts, has better control over noise and can peel out more detail!
Using water for counterweights, genius!
That’s fact
I was in florida observing saturn the view made me buy the same scope I tried in Florida but with the same scope I never got the same view in Wisconsin ever .
Very good results! Texas skies provide good results.
Just ordered the asi662. I hope it pairs well with my 8” GSO Newtonian 🙏
As two other commenters asked, how did you polar align? Or did you not? Thanks.
Hi Bray, great video from my beginners point of view. Good clear skies are a must but here in the UK its been cloudy nearly every night since last March. I envy your location, nice work..
Hello, you brought Saturn into view manually without polar and start-aligning your scope?
I would clip the camera cable to the polar axis to prevent its tendency to jog the telescope.
Good video and great images, but I feel like you are hiding all the good stuff. I know everyone's setups are different, but it would have been nice to see your capture settings for Saturn for those shooting with similar rigs. And then when you went to PI instead of Registax like everyone else after AS3, I was excited to learn exactly how to use PI instead of Regi, but the details were sparse then the video sped up and you went into Regi and did something then AS3 popped up again. not sure what you did there, and all of a sudden we were in WinJupos. Your process between AS3 and WinJupos is very intriguing, and your capture settings for Saturn pique one's curiosity; care to help a brother out? I would love to learn those aspects from you. Thanks - "Dustin Gazz"
Cool Saturn images too. Do you think you can detect the spokes in the rings?
Have you done this at Starfront yet? I remember watching your old videos and then the observatory idea and thinking you were insane. Hopefully I'll have a scope there someday.
do you also do polar align with that camera? I havethat same EdgeHD with the 585mc and it's very challenging doing PA cause it doesn't find many stars...
Wow amazing job. If you don’t mind me asking what computer are u using
Honestly dont know the model. Its some acer gaming laptop I got because it has lots of usb3 ports
Great video Bray. What kind of polar alignment do you perform during set up?
It’s all about dark sky’s, I live in north west Canada, almost zero light pollution
I have G3M462C Touptek camera with the same imx462 sensor but can't get at least smilar images. Just burry ones.
I love looking at these planets, our solar system is so amazing.
I have a question for you, i just saw another capture of saturn and the angle is different, how is this possible and wouldnt we all get the same view from anywhere on our small planet?
amazing seeing and great work!
great shots... can you share your Pix deconvolution icons or settings?
Thanks for capturing me
More money you have = better picture you have
Yes and no
I've seen people take better picture of Jupiter than him with telescopes a few inches smaller
I need to practice a lot 😅
@@SimonsAstronomy me too 😂
Please help me how to capture the best way and how do I buy the software
Dude I’m so jealous. From Boston, Jupiter looks like it’s under water.
Same it’s been that way for most of my life from Phoenix. Always soupy in the heat
Amazing.
Thank you!
Thank you for your taking the time to explain everything you have a new subscriber.
This is the first time I'm watching your you tube video. Though I'm not from science background space science always fascinated me. Waiting for more videos from you. Regards from India. 💐
Thanks for watching!
I wish i had photos of this detail
Hi Bray great video many thanks, hope you can make a video of your editing process seems amazing too
I bet using the H2O bottles as a counterweight dampens the mount some.
Good to include a clip of the live feed while recording.
Even on youtube it is possible to see details in the rings, which are not in the final image.
In earlier versions of the software, it was possible to manually select a part of a planet to refer the quality of the frames to keep.
For example I did this with Io on Jupiter.
A perfect disc with shading in a 16cm dall kirkham.
What recent software is doing is averaging details, it doesn't know what a NASA reference looks like.
Damian Peach looks at all his sub frames I suggest. He has gone to a lot of trouble to get a few minutes of video.
If you did that with your data I bet there is a sharper final image to be obtained.
Mask frames for each sharpest area of detail and manually stack in photoshop?
Loved the video
Hey thanks for sharing this and especially for the collimation part, I have a C9.25 (not the edgeHD one) and I'm going to try jupiter and mars soon. Hopefully the skies will clear soon. Wow!! The seeing is excellent there!
So they moved Texas to the Alantic ocean 😂 Good progress keep working at it!
WHAT IN TARNATION IS THAT COUNTERWEIGHT??? that is so cool lmao
Saturn is 10 times the diameter of earth ?
Good job
Great video Bray. It just earned you a new sub ! ;-) You have an open invitation in Moab Utah where I live to do some shooting under Bortal 1- 2 sky's and no mosquitos either ! LOL... Anyhow I'm 62 and retired and after a 10 year space of time I'm getting back into this hobby again. (There goes the wallet😅) I have to say the changes in tech since I was doing this back in 2014 are flat out amazing.. I guess you could say I got bit by the bug again, just not a mosquito, haha. All the best from Moab ! Cheers...
I see that you are having those double edges and shadows in the stacked Saturn image, the problem is AutoAlign in FireCapture, next time switch it off and you will get a much better stacked image like day/night difference.
Interestig video thanks. Your final image of Jupiter looks great. The Saturn images shows a lot of rings, but, in my humble oppinion, looks a bit oversharpened.
Very nice mate, you did an extremely good job for someone stepping out of their comfort zone. I'd hate to think what a video of me doing DSO work would look like Hahaha.👍
Hahaha thanks man. Every time I edit planetary I have no idea if I’m doing it right but it comes out okay sometimes
@@astrofalls If you ever have anything you think i may be able to help with be sure to send a DM on twitter. I'd be happy to have a look and offer my thoughts. All the best
Would you mind putting your raw data up on a google drive for others to try processing? a 3 minute capture of Saturn and Jupiter. I live in Toronto, and I could never in my life get seeing like that. At my latitude I'm looking through 2.0 atmospheres at all times when capturing planets, its hell on the seeing.
New Subscriber here.. Are you going to Capture Saturn 🪐 Again this year Next month.?
I think it is at Opposition on September 8th.
lol those Misquotes 🤦♂️
Awesome. Ha!
Its almost like the plants illuminate. They are all full
though your end results are great, I always prefer an animation over a derotated stack!.. Animations make it even more tangible, and derotating always gives strange artefacts.
"I didn't want to spend $70 on a counter weight." While standing behind a setup over 2K
oh man I wish very good quality telescope
Dang! Call somebody to bring you some spray!
Out of an apartment with no backyard is dedication ✊🏾💯🪐
Do you want to sell that Celestron 9 and a quarter
Honestly maybe, I’ve partially hacksawed the focuser knob under the rubber if that is okay with you. Been considering getting a c11
The edge of the Jupiter photo is too bright, because of this Jupiter looks somewhat flat.
You can also see parallel ring artifacts near the edge.
The last time I processed a picture of jupiter I think I used a "deringing" option to reduce the ring artifacts near the edge.
yeah, but for me that deringing option is always too strong, unfortunately. I just hold back on the sharpening.
Bray sure loves to say…Texas…Mute Time!
Did they retire the 462MC? There is only the 462MM left... ah I see the 662MC is its successor.
I need to come to Texas for star party and get the same view
I've lived in Texas since 1984, and his claims about Texas are overblown. Remember, Texas is a HUGE state, and generally the further west you go, the better the seeing will be.
You have Kerbal Space Program? Wow
how to worsen to the already bad reputation of the AVX
I thought Texas would be full of some kind of gunpowder fog
Those mosquitoes were awfully into u and ur equipment 😂
As somebody who isnt in this community, I just want to be honest here and say that the processed photos to me look way worse than the blurry images taken directly from the telescope. Again I dont do astrophotography or even have a telescope so I guess anyone could just tell me to shut up bc I dont know anything but to me having an untouched blurry image of saturn that visible is far more impressive than editing it and making it look like something you would post on Instagram. Im not trying to hate or anything here Im just explaining what I see as an outsider. I understand that it makes the atmospheres of the planets more visible but it also makes the images look ai generated or over sharpened and blown out. If anyone can tell me why this is actually done other than to show more detail I would appreciate the insight.
Edit: After finishing the video I do gotta say though that the images of the moon are outstanding and inspiring.
I wear glasses, but when I go to the movie theater or watch tv, I like to take them off. I want to be honest and say that the way the movies looks with my glasses off ,and all blurry, looks so much better. Same goes with watching this video and reading comments. If anyone can tell me why glasses are use other that to show more detail and to be able to see everything sharper, I would appreciate the insight.
waterbottle technique
462 Mc is cheap camera I’m surprised for the quality you made of it
I wonder if my 585 Mc would do anything similar quality by your equipment and location
so, let me get this straight: you had $5000 for that beautiful beast (it's portable only if you say so.....), but you didn't have $70 for the counterweights? :) lol.. nice images, though. clear skies! :)
JUPITER AND SATURN
I really want to get into this, and was about to buy my first telescope. But after seeing a YT Vid 'Expectation vs Reality' it made me kinda shy away from the astro hobby. And all this "Post Production" stuff is cheating. Same as a not so good looking person photo shopping their profile pic to look more "desirable" on their social media platforms.
So is the seeing good in Texas?🤣
Just a tip: white light is the worst light to use for astrophotography, Red light is better. white light messes up with your eye site, just a tip.
bros getting eaten alive😭🙏
Wear skeeter netting . At least these are real photos not animation
Technology.
NICE🪐
Dust off your telescope my friend!
Nice pictures - just moved from Houston so I feel you on the mosquitos!
Enough of fucking Texas I don’t even feel like watching the video anymore. There are other places just as good or better than Texas.
this clown works for the controllers he will never focus in properly so u can see what they really look like !!! no telescope will turn wandering stars into cartoon ball planets
Lol
LIKE I SAID THERE ARE NO CARTOON BALL PLANETS WE HAVE LOTS OF VIDEO PROOF@@crazygamer6982
@@EricPepeOk troll.
@@EricPepeidiot
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